Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview

New York, NY-  For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case.  Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman did not speak to any reporters or answer any of their questions regarding Kyron Hormans disappearance. Until Now.

Horman courtesy of People

Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions,  and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include wwww.blinkoncrime.com.

In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning,  Horman  maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.

“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”

“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”

Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.

“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent.  I want her to tell me where Kyron is.  If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”-  Desiree Young

“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date.  To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page

Christina Stoy, www.blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney,  Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.

Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview.  Um, What?

Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.

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4,701 Comments

  1. cd says:

    Rose says:
    July 15, 2016 at 9:52 am
    What will they do (any of them) should they learn they have been wrong all along?

    B
    —————-
    Most of Soldiers followers post on many/multiple lost child sites on the internet although some of the FB sites aren’t as virulent as WS (which probably aren’t as much fun as WS). They will just go on posting their hate prayers etc… somewhere else. Some these weirdo’s need to call 1-800-get-a-life because it seems that some do nothing else but post on these sites all day.

    Bottom line they probably won’t really care if they are wrong.

    Soldier will just find another victim.

  2. Houndog says:

    So I have been reading about entry/exit doors SZ was seen utilizing. Blink, are you able to say if there is an interior door that connects CR 109 and 110? In other words, a door that one could walk from one to the other WITHOUT going into the hallway? Much like connecting rooms in a hotel?

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-5/#comments

    To my knowledge, no, but if that is incorrect I will update my response.
    B

  3. Rose says:

    3rd from last comment indicates Mickelson involvement with Kaine
    & personal knowledge of hus finances back to Oct 2012
    https://m.facebook.com/AnnaCanzano/photos/a.138192379592027.35604.135287959882469/377542712323658/

    Correct, they were romantically involved during that timeframe.
    B

  4. Rose says:

    It has been over 2 yrs since Terri entered a custody Stip in good faith.
    If she’s not been having overnights, graduating to weekends, graduating to summer weeks in those30 months, Mr Horman & Bell have not been acting in good faith imo.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/06/kaine_horman_awarded_custody_o.html
    And one hopes Kantor is off this case forever.

  5. Rose says:

    “…And at the Kyron Car Show in August, he thinks she will play a more prominent role.”
    “It was a day where we raised awareness.”
    http://patch.com/oregon/portland/portland-kyrons-dad-june-4th-it-was-just-another-day

    So, are Portland strangers going to Kaine’s August fundraiser to meet kiara in her more prominent role? I am Teri’s Stip did not obviate her parental rights wrt education, medical care, mental health, risk settings, or activities of daily living. With a decent family Court Judge, this mini-aide & ambassadoress work role to her father’s half-brother’s charity would be monitored with limits placed.

    My personal opinion only- I do believe in an active reunification of this nature that such activity is monitored.
    B

  6. erose says:

    Good for you, Blink, to put Kyron’s best interests before the interview, not that we expected any less. Just the fact that you have her information is good enough for me. “What will they do (any of them)…?” you ask. I think it will hit DY the hardest, perhaps followed by KH because they are emotionally invested in Kyron, of course, and TH as well in a negative spirit. This will be soul crushing, IMO, because at a point they will realize their convictions were wrong and they lost 6+ years of the real task at hand. I don’t think any cops, or DA’s, or judges or PPS personnel will ever assume responsibility for anything. I don’t see it now, so I don’t expect to see it ever.

    Thank you erose.
    TH’s story will be told here and I do believe when it is- it is definitely in the best interests of Kyron’s case.

    Unfortunately I agree with you about the continuation of responsibility dodging- but I hope we are both wrong.
    B

  7. Rose says:

    “Det” O’Donnell literally at Underhill’s right hand as U seeks assistance identifying Teri’s “accomplice.”
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html

  8. Rose says:

    OT spinning wheels in mud in Portland; should just be reading like dear erose, not
    nattering on. imo case won’t move forward til matters pending are resolved and series is published. imo Teri is poised to be kyron’s advocate with mcso/da because his other parents have nothing to show for whatever they did.
    fwiw I havent read it yet
    https://www.google.com/amp/www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/trumpian-tactics-after-nice/amp?client=safari#
    my profile yesterday (which I was too unconfident to post anywhere) was his wife was demanding divorce, domestic violence hx, mental instability. where does an old lady go to get hired as a profiler?

  9. Rose says:

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/01/21/kyron-horman-missing-case-terri-horman-breaks-her-silence-in-people-magazine-interview/comment-page-71/#comments

    “…pretending to support ”
    pretense?
    Why would she employ pretense with the HC?
    “the reality of the likely outcome”
    Yes, always Desiree’s nemesis.

    Progress or escalate the case? gonna guess Soldier’s petition is futile.
    can you give us a cheat sheet of what bios can do on that.
    why is Soldier not holding Desiree’s feet to the fire wrt productive
    advocacy re her son if Soldier is a true Kyron advocate?

    Very simple. A courtesy call to Reese requesting a status meeting with the purpose that they are considering a review by the ODOJ. If either one of them genuinely believe Kyron is alive and being held against his will- one has to presume they would be doing this hourly?

    B

  10. T. Ruth says:

    @Rose,
    Rose says:
    July 15, 2016 at 6:45 am

    I do recall that some of the first billboards put up around Portland were in the Russian language and I always wondered why. Maybe that is exactly the connection LE was looking for?

  11. T. Ruth says:

    Adding to my last post, if, in fact, the sales and distribution of steroids were somehow connected to this case, and said sale and distribution was coming from some other country (e.g. Russia), that would explain all those Federal agencies appearances in this child’s case, would it not?

    Perhaps. Gonna be honest- I put the roid issue together years before I knew there actually was one pursuant to Kyrons case (Kaine). I was told by an Atty that I am not allowed to quote that LE believed I had a mole at the time. Patently false- investigation 101 is to evaluate events. (simultaneous)
    B

  12. A Texas Grandfather says:

    My thoughts on Blink’s question: “What will they do (any of them)should they learn they have been wrong all along?”

    The two bios already know they are wrong. They bought in at the beginning to a false narrative.

    LE and the local DA were after a particular agenda and they don’t care unless the people realize the mess that exists in their community and decide to do something about it. To them Kyron is just a little boy who disappeared.

    Yes.
    B

  13. Rose says:

    In the beginning you said there was a parallel investigation.
    A lot was going on with the DEA, and drug work with the DEA was
    Balizan’s career hx in the fbi. One has to wonder if local dea
    agents misdirected the public to Terri deliberately as a smokescreen
    wrt to who was truly involved, and maybe for retribution for her
    report on someonw having complicated whatever they had going on.
    For all we know whoever she informed the dea about was one of theis
    or a squirrelly informant they used. The whole directing the public to
    Terri maybe was part of a dea coverup of local work gone awry.

    I wonder why Budnik-Redden-Jacquiss have taken off after Dan Carol Mike & Larry,
    but never after Rod. Can they be too admiring of his ceasing prosecution
    of low hanging drug cases or enamored of his juvenile justice? Drugs & crime are
    rampant and I’d have to own a gun if living there.
    —-
    I feel the reason DY has not held mcso accountable nor asked the case be transferred lies
    in one word, Tony. Tony’s pov is there’s enough circumstantial evidence; the problem lies
    with the DA. I doubt he’d ever “abandon” fellow linelevel “detectives.”

  14. Rose says:

    It amazes that 2 River Patrol men,
    Gulberg & Reiser, are over Detectives &
    Investigations on this chart. https://mcso.us/profiles/pdf/org_chart.pdf
    Reese needs to advertise senior level positions to
    other LE agencies when vacancies arise.

  15. Rose says:

    http://www.kptv.com/story/31378410/task-force-meth-heroin-steroids-morphine-seized-in-clackamas-co-bust
    a long term investigation.
    these 2 don’t look that smart. Perhaps they were arrested first to turn them
    on the higher ups that hired them.

  16. Rose says:

    nothing more came of this federal investigation:
    “public safety officers,” Frazier wrote, “Several spin-off FBI public corruption investigations were initiated as a result of these allegations, and are ongoing.”
    http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2010/05/canby_steroid_suppliers_cooper.html

    I don’t have any direct info on that case or cases, but I can tell you from my experience a great deal of these situations are handled through very quiet channels ( allowed to resign,retire, etc) due to the fact that corruption charges almost always render past and present prosecutions involving the accused as null. In other words- sometimes a decision gets made to protect the integrity of individuals or cases in the system.
    B

  17. Rose says:

    Jacquiss scooped this; put it up last nite late.
    He seems to be the water boy for various govt employment litigators who leak.
    http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/07/15/ex-spokeswoman-files-federal-civil-rights-lawsuit-against-former-governor-john-kitzhaber-and-first-lady-cylvia-hayes/
    She is right imo.
    And she is married to the ODOJ Civil Rights Div head:
    http://www.wweek.com/news/2015/11/10/head-of-the-urban-league-accuses-oregon-depoartment-of-justice-of-racially-profiling-black-lives-matter-supporters/
    It is because of the outing of the ill-considered, illegal, antiConstitutional rights (and I expect mysogenistic due to their worldviews) of ODOJ investigators AND their Supervisor that imo hell should freeze over before Kyron’s case is sent to the ODOJ to investigate. Plus every investigation publicuzed under Ellen has had a political outcome.

    Nkenge’s very fine attorney was right to file in Federal Court, as Terri’s shoukd, nit State Court, to the extent she has Federal causes of action. And I bet Njenge’s attorney coukd find them. Among others, mcso/mcsa cost her the functional use of her teaching license and livelihood. All of this done with two failed GJs.

  18. Rose says:

    I would advocate for a case transfer to the Oregon-based Federal DOJ, and I am sure the right button to push with Dir. Billy Wms is Wyden’s. Soldier might peacefully picket & petition his OR Office for transfer to a Federal investigation. Nexus with Federal steroid cases and so on. It is a pity Mother surrendered her job(s) to Soldier. a Mental Anguish excuse only goes so far imo.

  19. Rose says:

    Oh gosh. Williams is another Willamette U GOB. It seems to me with Wyden importuning he coukd find a way to shoehorn Kyron into his Child Exploitation Section portfolio.
    https://www.justice.gov/usao-or/criminal-division
    Not much hope for this Federal Office tho. Their public corruption section has been strangely inactive in Oregon til their hand was forced on one matter.
    —-
    With Cogen outed as a regular mj user on the job, and episodic (is there such a thing?) cocaine user, imo it is unlikely only the County Exec was involved. (and he had to buy the cocaine from someone, or was this supply a regular courtesy some businessman afforded those in govt he cultivated?) If other govt officials bought, sold and used drugs, failure to open and pursue by dea and fbi in Muktnomah is a given, because no drug cases against public officials have been brought. That implicates MCDA in public corruption drug use coverup. It would be interesting to know what ADAs left mcda between 2010-2014 as well as leaving the practice of law (meaning the work, not the credential).

  20. Rose says:

    Looked for Cogen’s associates, thinkng they might share his predilections (and thus be part of an investigatory coverup on DEA matters.)
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cogen
    Only significant attachment over time is Saltzman. Who in 2009-10 was assigned PPB (until Adams had a meltdown in midMay): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Saltzman
    And how coherent for that matter was Adams’ May 2010 behavior? Am betting it was not steroids.
    Just looking around for more of Blink’s simultaneous events….

  21. Rose says:

    interesting hx of PPB.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/05/sam_adams_calls_noon_news_conf.html
    my takeaway, Saltzman was right in mid-May 2010 & Adams erratic.
    Mayors have a history of failing to adequately budget or back their Chiefs.
    Not enough $ on training gets what it gets on the streets.

  22. Rose says:

    I would like to know magic genie if moawad asked Rees to be assigned as Kyron’s “fulltime for a year”
    or if he randomly assigned her.

  23. Rose says:

    this former PPB Lt’s Aloha Distr is in Washington Cty:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Barker_(politician)

  24. T. Ruth says:

    A mole on steroids. Picturing that made me laugh. But then, there’s this:

    http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/new-moles-growing-using-gh!-247893.html

  25. Rose says:

    @Blink: “allowed to resign,retire,” Why I’m wondering
    who left mcda or ppb for greener, nonpractice, pastures in the
    couple years ahead. And had they worked on K’s case.

  26. Rose says:

    and were they given political apptmt jobs by the probable mj user gov?

  27. Rose says:

    “sometimes a decision gets made to protect the integrity of individuals or cases in the system.
    B”
    ie Kyron H’s case

  28. Rose says:

    ThevO catches up.
    So now we know why an ODOJ investigator with knowledge of his Supv REALLY targeted her spouse’s social media with new software:
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/07/former_kitzhaber_communication.html#incart_big-photo
    Under Ellen, who seems a mostly negligant leader, or looks the other way, ODOJ has been a political arm of the establishment.

  29. Rose says:

    filed at 5:30 pm on a Friday. sweet.

  30. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Ahh what a find T.Ruth

    The guy is hoping the steroids will make his body grow and he gets some new moles that grow fast. The stupid guy doesn’t realize that anything going into the digestive system has an affect on the body. If he, by heredity, has a propensity to have moles, they will grow just like the rest of the body.

    There is a cute little poem from about sixty years ago about what we ingest becomes us. It is titled “little Miss T”.

  31. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Rose

    It is not just dollars for training that makes a good police force. It is good leadership that begins with hiring quality trainable people. There is also the political component regarding budget and its use.

    The entire Portland area is in a mess and has been there for at least twenty-five years. The people are too laid back to take the steps necessary to clean it all up. Drugs is the prime culprit.

  32. Rose says:

    “a confidential informant from a separate” Canby investigation.
    “Detective Murphy said CCITF made controlled buys, or buy-busts, trying to move up the chain to a supplier and the largest holder of controlled substances, which turned out to be Corbus, and that “pieces of this investigation are still ongoing.”

    “(Corbus) had been on our radar previously,” he said. “He is someone we had been aware of for several years. I wouldn’t call it the (largest bust in Clackamas County history), but one of the more interesting aspects was the sheer variety of controlled substances they had. It was quite the Candy store of illegal substances.”

    http://pamplinmedia.com/cby/147-news/297927-175390-canby-detective-leads-massive-county-drug-bust-

  33. Rose says:

    2016 task force leader Det James Murphey appears as Officer James Murphey toward the end of this article
    (where the fbi had taken over the Canby pokice/steroid investigation apparently in mid2008). http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/04/report_excanby_police_chief_li.html

  34. Rose says:

    Sgt C Brown, implicated by Traverso and in the press then,
    (see p 13 http://media.portland.indymedia.org/media/2011/02/405964.pdf)
    was allowed by Reese to retire & stay involved formally with PPB as a Police Cadet Advisor. p 9
    https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/article/448624
    good thing Brown wasn’t charged & convicted of he wouldn’t have passed the Cadet background check.

  35. Rose says:

    @ATG. Can’t hire quality trainable people when the public schools are among the country’s worst.
    High school Police Cadets looks like an entry path. In 2011 their grad ceremony was at Douglas HS.

  36. Rose says:

    transcript of Jung’s lengthy Staton interview July 2010
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_investigation_tra.html
    pity she didn’t also hook him up to one of his lie detectors.

  37. Rose says:

    on with simultaneous events. I’ve just heard Tom Brokaw opine Columbine in the late 90s ushered in an era of school shootings. It came to me what if Kyron’s abduction (necessitating his disposition) was part of that wave, tho not a gun assault. Perhaps similarly motivated as a lethal assault on a child in a school setting, tho not a shooting?
    Two weeks before, 2 key LE events occurred. Around 5/20, Staton was elected for the first time where the previous Chief had led a drawnout period of instability. And About 2 weeks before, Adams fired Sizer (budget & leadership disagreements) & installed the mere Captn of East Precinct, Reese. So neither agency leader had a mandate, both agencies were unstable, and both had budget problems and were underfunded. A crisis such as this painted the Chiefs as competent leaders, fed tge budget for a time, rallied residents behind those heroic figures out searching and investigating. An Erdogan-like convenience for the 2 new Chiefs. This idea makes it reasonable for a mentally unstable member of local LE to have done thus without necessitating a drug angle. And how blessed a suspect scapegoat was almost immediately identified. So, were any Skyline families employed by mcso or ppb?

  38. Rose says:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/05/multnomah_county_sheriff_elect.html
    So much for campaign promises.
    —–
    nattering on.
    What if the thrill, whether sexual or perverse, was not related to a prepubertal boy per se.
    There are lots easier venues to kidnap a boy than a school crowded with parents & directly from a teacher.
    And if a steroid monkey wrench prompted a child revenge motif, ditto easier in less observed places.
    So maybe the abduction thrill was an assault on a child inside a school like the gun assaults wave but
    sans gun. That would suggest a former PPS student as actor.

  39. Rose says:

    When Reese promoted from Captn to Commander of East Precinct:
    http://eastpdxnews.com/general-news-features/new-commander-takes-charge-of-east-precinct/
    from there he was bumped up to Chief.
    Interestingly he replaced Crebs who was made head of Detectives before becoming head of Transit
    then Asst Chief with the business portfolio. Crebs is the one Marshman demoted back to Captn, which
    he’d left behind way before Reese took over from him at E Precinct. I bet there’s lots of Internal resentment
    at what Marshman did to Crebs & Day. When they’re cleared in the investigation, I bet they file nice suits.

  40. Rose says:

    Brokaw said after Columbine, there were fearful parents thousands of miles away who’d never worried before. I wonder if the FBI team working with Staton suggested to him the target of tge abduction was rousing parent fear about schools as safe places and that explained his Command staffs’ stating “isolated incident,” “no evidence for serial,” There was an inordinate and misplaced effort by mcso/pps to reasure parents the school itself was safe to the extent of suppressing info re SZ, the last person with Kyron who abducted him with teacher’s permission. That motivation would say something about SZ.

  41. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Rose

    I don’t know if Portland public schools are the worst regarding their lack of teaching their students. They are probably no different than multiple school districts across the country.

    We have a crisis of education in our country. More money isn’t the answer. The answer is parents who send their children off to school and then don’t pay attention to the child’s grades or the textbooks they are using. Parents are the first teachers of their children and the creators of values. The school systems have systematically removed parents from the control of the schools by local and state legislation.

    Most of the textbooks today are all about social justice rather than the subject for which they are to teach.

    As my friend Irv said regarding teaching music in Texas; “They don’t teach music in Texas schools, they teach UIL”.

    The University Interschoolastic League (UIL) is the state organization responsible for setting up the standards and holding contests for marching bands and concert bands. Because of the “Trophy” concept of UIL, band directors have no choice but to spend their time drilling the march music all during the fall football season (rote teaching) and then in the spring doing the same with three pieces of music in order to get another trophy. It is a feel good situation that has very little to do with learning music properly. This is from a man who played in the Presidents Own Marine Band and taught at the Navel School of Music. The sad part is that he is absolutely correct.

    This is just one example of misplaced goals to make the teachers look good to the community. The teachers mostly are aware of the lack of real teaching, but for job security they continue so they can get a good pay check.

  42. Houndog says:

    @Rose, after 6+ years, your ability to continuously see this case from new points of view is beyond impressive!

  43. T. Ruth says:

    @Rose says:
    July 16, 2016 at 7:10 pm

    LOL, LOL

    IDK, but I think she wanted to after he wouldn’t answer the predatory SO’s question.

  44. Houndog says:

    SOMEONE in this world knows what happened to Kyron. Maybe it will take the right person being arrested for an unrelated crime being offered a plea deal to identify the perp. Probably about the same chances of it raining cats and dogs.

    http://www.theforecaster.net/south-portland-scarborough-police-assist-in-states-largest-heroin-bust/

  45. MockingbirdSings says:

    Rose says:
    July 17, 2016 at 12:59 am
    snipped –
    nattering on.
    What if the thrill, whether sexual or perverse, was not related to a prepubertal boy per se.
    There are lots easier venues to kidnap a boy than a school crowded with parents & directly from a teacher.
    And if a steroid monkey wrench prompted a child revenge motif, ditto easier in less observed places.
    So maybe the abduction thrill was an assault on a child inside a school like the gun assaults wave but
    sans gun. That would suggest a former PPS student as actor.
    ——————————————————–

    @Rose – _ I’m following your nattering, as usual, thank you.
    What I keep wondering about is where is the bragging about his success, or has there been some hint of it and whoever is aware isn’t telling? No matter what he was trying to do or show, you’d think claiming his success would be so tempting. [To me, suicide after a criminal act is a form of claiming success because it’s obvious who committed the crime and (in a warped sense) the person(s) cannot be punished.]

    How common is it for a person who does something like this to never ever mention or hint of it to anyone whether sober or under the influence of something? After all, look how many people and agencies have been “outsmarted”.

    Assuming the person is not dead, does the lack of desire for credit mean it’s more likely Kyron is alive or someone was hired to kidnap him rather than something that was done for the person’s own purpose?

    I realize there isn’t enough information to answer this – just wondering.

    1) Extremely common for an individual not to mention this type of crime- most especially if my hunch is correct and this is an organized offender (sexually motivated). This individual is not seeking credit. This is not to say such an offender would not keep close tabs on the investigation in some manner and seek gratification that as a result of some of the public perception (created by MCDA & MCSO ) that TMH is the suspect or person responsible, he likely will not get caught until Kyron is found. That’s the thing- he is betting on the fact that he will not be. And this type of control and confidence may tell me 2 things- Kyron’s location is tied to this individual, and he will reoffend.

    2) Suicide over this type of crime by this type of offender (above theory) is not an option. The only consideration the unsub might have of that would be in fear of imminent capture- or discovery and even then his first reaction and response is to disassociate so in his mind he did not commit this act so he has nothing to fear.

    B

  46. MockingbirdSings says:

    A Texas Grandfather says:
    July 17, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    Rose
    I don’t know if Portland public schools are the worst regarding their lack of teaching their students. They are probably no different than multiple school districts across the country.

    The answer is parents who send their children off to school and then don’t pay attention to the child’s grades or the textbooks they are using. Parents are the first teachers of their children and the creators of values. The school systems have systematically removed parents from the control of the schools by local and state legislation.
    ———————————————————

    I’m afraid since there are multiple concerns, there will have to be multiple answers. Just a note on the parent part –

    In my high school, there were some wonderful, highly involved parents. There were also kids with single parents with several jobs, kids raised by a grandparent and even a great grandparent, kids living with adult siblings, kids with foster parents, kids living with an aunt or uncle, kids who couch surfed and stayed with a loving neighbor family, even a few kids who were taken in by more than one teacher’s family, a married student or 2, a few emancipated at 16. There were kids in families with parents that had gang involvement, as well as those who were addicted to one thing or another, and of course, pregnant kids and kids of incarcerated parents.

    While it is true that many of these parents were unable to help their children at the time I met them, or could work closely with the school, and that more money isn’t a “cure”, there are helpful services which could be provided to these students if the money was available, but it wouldn’t fit most people’s expectations for ways to use money given to schools. No matter what we think of the parents and what reasons they have for the inability to parent, their children are still children and still need help to succeed – and they CAN succeed, I saw it happen many times. Foster parents get some financial support (I’ve been one), but I have great admiration also for the many who help and love (non-custody) kids from their own resources.

    People talk about the great salaries teachers get – they don’t ask where that money goes. I bought so many classroom supplies over the years, and yearbooks and clothes and lunches, etc. etc. for students that I shudder to think what the total would be if I could add it all up. I even bought a grave marker for one of my student’s babies. I can look anybody in the eye and honestly say I was never paid too much either as an employee or a retiree. It was my choice. I am not wealthy, and it was a tight budget sometimes, but I don’t regret it at all. Most of my colleagues did the same, to varying degrees. Nothing about education is ever quite as simple as it sounds.

    MBS jumps down from soapbox now.

  47. Rose says:

    OT what Marshman’s demotion to Traffic, crebs, is doing recently
    for the Bureau. http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/07/for_portland_police_captain_an.html

  48. T. Ruth says:

    O/T

    Dysfunctional police reform panel needs a new way forward: Editorial Agenda 2016

    (snipped)

    The board needs to own its dysfunction, surely. But running beneath it is a greater failure: City Hall’s crippling indifference to recommendations made by the board to improve the practice of policing in Portland.

    No one makes it clearer than Saadat, who wrote in an “exit report” at the time of her resignation that “There is no identifiable person or entity at the City level for providing the support that the (citizens advisory board) needs” and that “the manifestation of commitment to the success of (the citizens advisory board) is not evident in the behaviors of the responsible entities, i.e., the City and the Portland Police Bureau.” Separately, Rosenbaum and Watson complained they had “taken the brunt” of board frustration about a lack of support by the Justice Department as well as the city, Bernstein reported.

    (more @link)

    ***********
    It seems to me no one answers to anyone anymore. It’s all some sort of weird circle of denials and getting nothing done. A fun game of pass the buck, til you’re out of luck, then retire with PERS.

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