Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview

New York, NY-  For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case.  Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman did not speak to any reporters or answer any of their questions regarding Kyron Hormans disappearance. Until Now.

Horman courtesy of People

Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions,  and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include

In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning,  Horman  maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.

“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”

“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”

Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.

“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent.  I want her to tell me where Kyron is.  If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”-  Desiree Young

“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date.  To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page

Christina Stoy, Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney,  Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.

Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview.  Um, What?

Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.

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  1. erose says:

    Blink, Thanks for the recommended read. I will tell my son about it who will no doubt go audible. There are many forms of dyslexia, however I have discovered, as a person who breezed through studies, that dyslexics are big picture people, they are out solving the big problems while I’m cleaning the garage. Don’t get me started on my ADD discoveries (my sister’s side of the family) LOL.

  2. Rose says:

    Re ATGrandfather says:
    July 19, 2016 at 11:17 pm
    wrt “I asked the group how they were going to determine who really needed the supplies. The youths didn’t know and the adult guide was taken aback by that question. They had not thought about it”

    In my State over a couple decades backpacks stuffed with required school supplies have been organized by pta volunteers at every school. All recipients are means tested: they must be children whose family has qualified them financially based on income for govt free lunch/breakfast. Children tracked that way by the public schools receive other means tested freebies from PTAs for the same reason: ie, a small allotment of tickets for pta fairs so the can engage in a few activities and eat a little slice of pizza like peers. Ordinary pta volunteer footsoldiers, not on Exec, , and certanly children, would likely have been unable to answer your question because every effort is made in school not call these kids out nor call their difference to theiir attention. In my States the academic skills State Report card (sch, distr, State) breaks this group out like other needy groups (ie spec ed).

  3. Rose says:
    Waving to vwoolf. your comment nails her motivation.
    On the other side of this handshake is the BoE’s motivation –
    primarily wanting a palatable Corp saleswoman for the Fall bond vote.
    Kim S nails it too. Extraordinarily, the BoE has looked to “one of themselves,” one
    who has walked in their shoes and who will not candidly just say no to them
    from an educator’s perspective.
    The greatest need from our advocacy is transparency, no more coverups, & someone in PPS
    should honestly brief the public on PPS witnesses to Kyron’s departure from the school.
    The parents’ failure to sue PPS was in my opinion quite unwise.

  4. Rose says:

    “Marshall and her subordinate started the affair in August 2013. It lasted for more than one year. During that time, the subordinate got a promotion.”

    and then he appears to shed her like skin.
    very very sad.
    my opinion was alcohol, probably self-treating mood.

    very dysfunctional US DOJ office imo with several “command staff” married couples.

  5. Rose says:

    Now we see the purpose of Desiree’s surrogates, her colaborers in fundraising and colaborers in several Roseburg stalking ventures of Terri. ‘Their demonstration included holding up signs to drivers-by in front of the Sheriff’s office. Large sign: Where’s Kyron? Ask @#Terri Ask @#DeDe.

  6. Rose says:

    I wonder if katu showed that sign?

  7. meg says:

    Why do the local media outlets keep saying Terry was the last person to see Kyron?

  8. Rose says:

    “Terri Horman, his stepmother, was the last person to see Kyron that day.”
    I hope makes a written request for retraction.
    He shoukd inform of the truth so next time katu can be
    sued for kniwingly publishing a falsehood about a private person.

    I can say that once I publish the corroborated factual account, I do believe Ms. Horman intends to seek fact correction and/or retraction for issues like this- but of course that will be her call.

  9. Rose says:

    @Meg. Because the katu reporter on the scene
    interviewed the Soldiers With Signs (#Terri and #DeDe
    who have been given that information repeatedly by their General.
    Iirc mcso pio’s statement read like mcso had been informed of their
    presence by the reporter and otherwise these doings did not come
    to mcso’s attention. That way the pio had plaisible deniability over
    signs’ content accusing the two ladies.

  10. Rose says:

    I have gone back briefly skimming. The “last person” storyline has been (from 2010ff) attributed to “the investigators,” or “anonymous” (which generally by context in retrospect seemed a family insider), or to Young who went so far as to say Terri walked him outside to the truck. To the extent Young alleges this, imo she got it from “the investigators”, but Blink said she was updated wrt SZ.

    I am going to address this specifically in the piece (series, as it will need to be multiple parts). I believe initially DY did get that info from investigators.

  11. Rose says:

    About that corroboration, any chance the pio’s of mcso/da gave you as
    much as a no comment?
    About that “last to see”, Desiree disseminated that, in fact she said Terri
    was seen walking K to her car (yes we kniw that was to get something he
    forgot and they returned to bldg). I consider wrt the “last to see” storyline
    bio mom to be like the heart of a vampire imo, and only mcso/da can wield
    the stake of public correction.

    I find MCSO has taken the track that they will not be accountable for DY’s public commentary.

  12. A Texas Grandfather says:


    I think your answer to the school supplies distribution is the only correct one. However, the adult with the group either didn’t know the prescribed method or chose to keep silent about it. All she had to do was to say we are delivering these backpacks to the school for them to distribute. This was not a PTA group.

  13. A Texas Grandfather says:

    T. Ruth

    Your story about the loss of power and the chaos that ensued in the restaurant is typical of the lack of teaching occurring in our schools.

    I have two UPS units for my home electronics that will run them for up to 45 minutes. These units have been in place for over twenty years. The problem is that many small businesses do not understand the necessity for protecting their critical electronic devices from power problems. There are a lot more power problems than just lack of power. There are spikes (overvoltage)and dips (undervoltage) and phase angle problems on the power line. Any one of them can take down a computer that is not protected. After all, today most cash registers are computer devices.

    One of my clients was building and installing computer driven school lunch program registers. He had them in multiple schools and all of them were having problems with printing and accuracy in calculating the correct amounts. An investigation determined that he did not understand the role that proper grounding played in keeping computers and peripheral devices functioning correctly. We cleared the ground problem and everything then worked as it should.

    I am one of the old guys who know how to work a slide rule if I need it. I used to teach my music students how to rapidly add three and four digit numbers in their heads. That was really an exercise in improving their concentration.

    Just last Wednesday, while grocery shopping, there was an announcement that the store had lost the ability to accept credit cards and until it was fixed, cash only was all they could accept. Who knows what the problem was? I can think of a half dozen reasons and more.

  14. A Texas Grandfather says:

    T. Ruth

    The old credit cards with the raised lettering were placed in a ticket printing device to identify the card holder and the account number. The merchant had to make a telephone call to the card company to get authorization. The tickets were collected each day and mailed to the processing facility. If credit card business was light, they may have beeen mailed every two or three days.

    The magnetic strip on the back began to appear in the late 1970′s. It was information about the card holder and account encoded in ABA (American Bankers Association) code.

    I automated a Truck Loading Rack for petroleum products with a mini-computer in 1978. Permission to load and who was encoded in the magnetic strip on a credit card that used ABA code. The code database was stored in the local computer. Data input was via an 8″ floppy disk or the console which was a KSR (Keyboard Send/Receive) teletype. The console also had an RS-232C serial connection to the ABA magnetic strip writer. Very primitive compared to today.

  15. Rose says:

    Qs Portland reporters never ask:
    BoE Chair said PPS’ Smith just wanted to get in her RV and leave. (can’t find the link sorry).
    That reminded me of the RV PPS Principals campout where Principal Marti got into it:
    So Carol has an RV and camps.
    Not one Press asked if Carol & her RV were on that drunken campout.
    Which reminds me, PPB employees on their private time got in trouble for their drunken campout.
    Why not comparable treatment for PPS principals?

  16. Rose says:

    maybe I am reading challenged, but Soldier made no comment about delivering a petition during her mcso appearance nor about speaking to even an mcso janitor. In fact, PIO statement indicated mcso only knew of their presence dye to a katu question. And she says let’s keep the petition going. So it’s not submitted. has she misled the public her group made or intended to make any contact with mcso or presented a petition?
    Seems rather to have kicked off a new tirade against Terri & Spicher on signage and on line. Waiting to see if Young uses that FB site for her next gfMe fundraiser too.

  17. Rose says:

    @ATG. My town collects donated backpacks with school supplies like that for our local publics. Various townspeople donate to the Office, and town volunteers pull it together. I imagine various local clubs, ie womens clubs, and church groups, do it too. It’s an easy charity to contribute to. Your chance encounter was probably one of that ilk.

  18. Rose says:

    OT About those computer glitches. When my SW plane landed last Wed afternoon, we were told there were no gates due to a technological problem. After 30 min we disembarked, only to find an airport full of frantic travelers whose flights were not flying due to a computer glitch. I landed thankfully just under the wire. Amazing a major (Texas) airline was disabled nationwide by that in this day.

  19. Rose says:

    @Blink. can we hope Desiree’s silence since January means she realizes she had much wrong
    and is regretful? That is not inconsistent with wanting to fund and conduct searches to locate Kyron.
    Locating Kyron is a value we all share, but is an imperative for a mother.

    Speculation on my part- but I personally just believe she has been legally advised her commentary is only defensible by truth- I do not expect that neither Kaine nor Desiree expected Terri to speak publicly.

  20. Rose says:

    Blink, it would be a positive sign if MCSO were
    responsible & accountable for the public statements
    (by omission and commission), of Sheriff Staton,
    and commanders Gates and Reiser, wrt the investigation
    and person of interest.

    hope pending matters are progressing, but at this point, may as
    well throw the mcso performance scandal in Reese’s
    lap after Aug 17, strategy-wise.

  21. A Texas Grandfather says:


    In regard to you OT comments regarding SW airlines. Whose computer glitch? The FAA control centers around the country depend on radar and computers to control all air space between and around airports. All landings and take-offs are the responsibility of the local airport.

    If landings continue to occur and ground control does not allow aircraft at a gate to move, then things pile up. This eventually causes flights to back up all across a system.

    If the computers were a part of the SW system, I am surprised that they do not have redundant systems that monitor one another so that if one fails, the second or monitor computer takes over the work of the primary. I built control systems like that in the 1970′s.

    I remember taking a flight aboard Transworld in the early 80′s from Houston to St. Louis. We left 45 minutes behind schedule. As we passed over Lufkin, Texas I felt a shudder of turbulence on the airplane. It was daylight so I could see the ground. Twenty minutes later we were over Guerdon, Arkansas just South of Little Rock and arrived at St. Louis twenty-five minutes early. We were held in a rectangular pattern near the airport until a gate could be cleared for landing. That one was caused by entering the jet stream at Lufkin that added about 250 mph to our ground speed. The pilot verified the cause and our speed when I asked him prior to departing the aircraft.

  22. cd says:

    I think that DY sees putting pressure on TH and DDS is the only thing that she can do to assist in finding out what happened to Kyron. I believe that she was told by LE that this is her job as part of the investigation. DY will continue to harass/say what ever she thinks it takes about TH and DDS to apply pressure. I don’t think she cares whether what she says is accurate as long as what she says causes people to dislike TH and DDS thus making their lives uncomfortable which she see as applying pressure. If LE clears DY and TH tomorrow I believe that DY would continue with her pressure campaign just incase or in the hope TH or DY know something they have not shared with her. IMO It is just about all she has left at this point.

    I think that even DY’s searches are not about finding Kyron as much as they are done to because DY thinks the searches will make TH or DDS fear discovery and maybe they will say something to someone.

    Kaine has said that putting pressure on TH is pretty much a waste of time and since the one press release saying DDS was giving TH bad advice I don’t think he has ever even mentioned DDS in conjunction with his son’s disappearance.
    Which pretty much says Kaine does not believe and has never believed that DDS was involved in Kyrons disappearance.

    It would be great if LE would clear DDS since she testified in front of the Grand Jury(where Iin 2013 (and if you think about it the GJ had 3+ years to formulate questions concerning Kyron’s cases so the questions would have been very good).

    Then DDS took a LDT where she was probably ask the same questions she answered for the GJ to confirm she told the GJ the truth. If DDS would have failed any of the LDT questions she would have been charged with lying to the GJ. So I surmise she passed the LDT with flying colors.

    So if DDS testified before the GJ + passed an LDT to confirm her answers + No further arrests or charges were made based on her information = DDS was not involved in any crime against Kyron and does not have any knowledge of who made Kyron disappear.

    I am sure that LE has shared this information with DY which confirms she is not above lying to the public when it suits her.

    But if LE cleared DDS tomorrow I don’t think it would have any effect on the Facebook hater group or DY because how is DY going to look if she has to admit she knew that DDS was not involved in her son’s disappearance all this time(since 2013) but continued to make false accusations about DDS because she thinks ruining DDS’s life will somehow make TH talk and lead to Kyron.

    I don’t think LE will ever clear TH since they really don’t know what happened to Kyron nor do they have any Idea who disappeared him. TH is all they have to show for the millions they spent on their searches and investigation. Without TH they would have to admit they have no clue of what happened to Kyron.

    What a mess!!!!

    cd- very reasoned post.

    1. I can state as fact that DY was told by her counsel, 2 MCSO detectives, and DDS counsel that as a result of Ms. Spichers testimony before the grand jury and her subsequent polygraph examination which included a question regarding her truthfulness regarding same, DDS was cleared of any knowledge or involvement in Kyrons disappearance. Rees refused to speak to DY- which under the circumstances I must admit is proper. Following my interviews with Spicher- she has NEVER been contacted by LE further. It is my understanding that Krafve and Herron were pulled from Kyron’s case when Rees learned they proposed to DDS that she wear a wire and contact TH following her completion (Spicher) of the polygraph which showed 100% truthful responses.

    2. Kaine does not believe that DDS was involved or has any knowledge. His primary issue with Spicher was that she lawyered up and encouraged TMH to do the same. In fact, he is on record saying there is someone else involved that LE does not know the identity of- which certainly precludes Spicher.

    3. Keep in mind here, while DDS is once again in full cooperation with LE, as she did for 3 straight years ( 3 years longer than I would have if I were her) the crowd-sourced civil suit is in abatement until Aug. 1 (2013). The pending issue in the suit ( and by default the first issue which would reactivate on the docket) was the motion to compel DDS testimony on questions where she pleaded the 5th in her deposition. CLEARLY- this demonstrates that both DY and LE are in alignment at the time that DDS was indeed involved in Kyron’s disappearance. CLEARLY- in my view, at the time, by whatever means, not only were the eggs of involvement consideration of DDS in her basket (by ALL PARTIES) but DDS WAS their basket. Mull that over everyone for a minute, if you will. Three years later, with a seven year old child missing, a second grand jury in session, a $10M civil suit underway and everyone’s linchpin and defacto star witness is Dede Spicher. And then…

    Someone is going to need to explain to me how everyone , absolutely everyone tasked with investigating this case believed the ginger duo was responsible, with the full and concise knowledge that Kyron was last seen leaving the school out the South entrance with an as yet unknown and unidentified male = same. Six years later it seems to me a child who was seven then, is counting on a better effort.


  23. Rose says:

    Southwest’s. Impacted crew assignments.
    Grounded the airline entirely for a couple days.

  24. Rose says:

    OT @ATG: Obscure cause “we have identified the cause as a technology malfunction in our network that affected multiple systems and platforms.” lasted from Wed til Sun. pity the Convention goers.

  25. erose says:

    Thinking about when Kyron was “last seen” it must have been in Matthew’s room, right? Did anyone see him after he left Matthew’s room? I guess that is hard if witnesses weren’t paying close attention to the time, Was he ever seen with a man? We know DY thinks he was last seen with TH at the truck, but what does she base her timeline on? Did MCSO ever construct a plausible timeline for Kyron. Could we do it?

    Off the top of my head; arrive about 8:10, go to homeroom, pictures, your with TH, TH leaves at 8:45. Somewhere in there they all return to the white truck. When? And how could DY know it happened in that time frame and Kyron was in Matthew’s room after that. Wasn’t there a photo with a time stamp? Does she think TH returned after 8:45? How? Does she think TH returned after Starbucks and 2X Fred Meyers, and the cleaners, etc.

    What was the time frame in Matthews room? After Kyron saw TP on the stairs. Was TP responding to the bell and Kyron ignored it and went to see the electric projects? When did Matthew’s say she gave the okay for Kyron to leave? Did anyone ever see Kyron after that? Was the man ever seen again after being in Matthew’s room? Did anyone ever see the man and Kyron together? Before entering or after leaving Matthew’s room? If I had access to the investigation, I would have to know.

  26. erose says:

    correction: “your” with TH should be TOUR with TH

  27. Rose says:

    @cd & Blink–both very reasoned, and informative.
    It’s beyond me how a distant acquaintance of TH could be targeted
    by the Youngs & their followers, mcso/da, and others merely
    because a single woman was free to spend a few nites in the home of
    a woman whose husband had run off and abandoned her and taken her child, and
    she feared for her life from the ilk of Rudi, or steroid dealors, or whoever took Kyron.
    Very brave and generous and seemingly in character for DDS. The person who
    knew Kaine and his behavior best, Desiree, should’ve made that call and been there
    instead of DDS. Imo TH would not have continued to be targeted by mcso rather than the
    real SZ. The two ladies could’ve gone to Skyline every day and sat in the principal’s office til
    they got the real story. Failing to step in when Kaine left to join against whatever forces
    threatened Kyron and Terri shows a contrariness in human relations and vindictiveness that was
    shortsighted in her goal of recovering Kyron.

    There is a saying ( more of a procedure, really) in investigation and litigation (which would be adjudication or criminal due process here) in this case’s relevance- called “best evidence”. A subjective term which of course requires strict training in protocol and most especially arrived at by MCSO and MCDA. If we are asking what “best evidence” by definition included DDS as a suspect in any capacity in this case I can unequivocally say there was none. N O N E.

  28. Rose says:

    I wonder if a Commissioners’ Ad Hoc committee with committee members to include that hotshot city auditor and her employee Marshman as well as the County auditor could investigate
    all the money Staton spent on the investigation in 2010 after the day MCSO
    learned Kyron had walked out with SZ. My guess is much was misspent and
    untruthful statements were made to the Commissioners by mcso personnel. Might
    even rise to the level of criminal behavior. Somebody better secure all Staton’s emails.
    Bet he’s busy deleting.

  29. Rose says:

    Wouldn’t hurt Kafoury to investigate. She can say she relied on Staton & Cogen.
    Wheeler exited the Chair in March 2010; so he was responsible for appointing then endorsing Staton.
    So with that political interest, imo the Commissioners will never investigate misspent mcso money.

  30. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Thanks Rose for the information about SW Airlines. If you don’t have crews,the planes don’t fly. Sounds like some system got hacked and they didn’t want to admit it.

  31. A Texas Grandfather says:

    “Someone is going to need to explain to me how everyone, absolutely everyone tasked with investigating this case believed the ginger duo was responsible with the full and concise knowledge that Kyron was last seen leaving the school out the South entrance with a yet unknown and unidentified male=same. Six years later it seems to me a child who was six then, is counting on a better effort.”

    That is the problem. They know better. The real problem is the dysfunctional people in MCSO and the fact that I believe they were attempting to hide drug activities in their own ranks that Terri exposed with the complaint about Kaine. Instead they made up a story fed to them by Kaine and reinforced by Tony Young. When the sting didn’t work, they decided to give some of the deputies a lot of overtime money searching in unproductive places to make themselves look good to the public. MCSO chose to use their position in LE to attack both women when things didn’t work out. A shameful mess for the people and those harmed in the process.

    All the things that Rose has discovered in her searches over the last few months, points to LE, DA and courts that have broken the law regarding this case. There is no other explanation that makes sense to me. In doing so, they have rewarded Kaine with sole custody of Kiara and made Terrie to be the bad actor in the whole event. This also forces Terri to pay child support which is the big reward to Kaine. Someone knows the truth. Someday they may find the courage to speak.

    Kyron, if still alive, will be found by accident or by being able to escape his captor.

  32. erose says:

    There it is. Last seen.

    cd says:
    July 26, 2016 at 3:47 am

    Someone is going to need to explain to me how everyone , absolutely everyone tasked with investigating this case believed the ginger duo was responsible, with the full and concise knowledge that Kyron was last seen leaving the school out the South entrance with an as yet unknown and unidentified male = same. Six years later it seems to me a child who was seven then, is counting on a better effort.


  33. Rose says:

    OT I wondered why Wyden, Gov Brown, AG Rosenblum, & others in Oregon’s
    leadership were missing at the Convention. After all, he is a New Yorker.
    Today’s O headlines are very informative about their base.
    No wonder FBI investigations have a low profile in Oregon.

  34. sunshine_4me says:

    What happened to the Wall of Hope? Who would have removed it?

  35. Rose says:

    Staunch Republican; party delegate.
    Don’tcare who he was anti.
    Love to know who he was for.

    This guy. LOL.

  36. Houndog says:

    I’m sitting here on a park bench while my Houndpuppies and their friend are “pokemoning”. For those of you who aren’t familiar, this is a game played on a smart device where you walk around various places and “catch” virtual Pokemon creatures. It gets kids outside and moving. Innocent enough right? Except that within 40 yards of my kids are 3 men who appear to be playing the game also. And they probably are. But am I sure? No. This is a known “spot” in our town for this game, and therefore a place where young boys come, engrossed in their phones/not paying as much attention to surroundings as they should be. But I am here, watching, and therefore my kids are safe. Ky was left in the hands of a trusted school, not in a public park where strangers are expected. Poor little man never had a chance.

    Yes, this has the potential for a “plain sight” scenario. Agreed.

  37. MockingbirdSings says:

    Who decided to take down Kyron’s wall? KATU said Desiree said nobody told her it was happening. Of course it was another chance for KATU staff to say their standard “who saw her last”.

    Now updated to say “portions” of the wall and “employees” took down . . .

  38. Rose says:

    Imo it does Kyron an enormous disservice for Desiree not (and Kaine) to give an interview saying he was last seen
    leaving Skyline out the South entrance with an unidentified male. Why does it fall to Terri to correct the
    record? She’s going to do what a mother does, publish the truth.

    Personally I think it fell to Terri because nobody believed she ever would correct the record. She absolutely has.

  39. Rose says:

    @Blink. What was the Investment of Kaine & Desiree she never would correct the record?
    (and imo that was VERY naive of them given Desiree sicced over years the hounds
    of hell on her).
    There is a motive in that, & there’s the rub. imo kyron’s parents are more
    culpable in coverup than mcso/da, because truth should’ve mattered the most to them.

    Avoidance of the alternative outcome.

  40. Rose says:

    @SS4Me. Desiree did not appear this anniversary& K never appeared on anniversaries.
    my speculation:
    1) it was grossly hopelessly tacky in appearance for any business
    2) someone lost their hold on Briede, or
    3) Briede no longer owns a manority interest in Xtreme Edge & the mankrity iwner
    is cleaning up.
    Based on recent research, I go with 3.

    It was always insane the “fence” migrated from skyline to fire dept
    to Briede’s boudoir.
    Should’ve moved from Skyline to 1) the Grange, or 2) the front lawn of mcso.
    Didn’t really read the story, but it was Desiree complaining?
    Briede was always Kaine’s buddy. Better she erected her own wall in Medford.

  41. Rose says:

    all those typos sorry.
    distracted by son screaming at me
    for msnbc watching now.

    lol. That’ll teach ya :)

  42. Rose says:

    @Blink.. You have always said:
    Avoidance of the alternative outcome.

    You are the expert on similarly
    situated parents whom you say all differ
    and are unpredictable.

    But to me after 6 years that is getting old from
    the bios. And Kyron deserves better.

    If he’s alive & returns I hope a judge (haha as to Oregon)
    places him with his family advocate.

    They do differ for sure- and part of that is also in the variance of ages, etc. In fairness, I would also suggest it can also have a great deal to do with the relationship with LE- and I do firmly believe both Kaine and Desiree “are where they are” in their private and public positions on their sons case status because of that as a factor.

    That said- not a judgement, but these parents in contrast to those I have worked with or have case sensitive knowledge of, have absolutely done the very least amount of any in similar cases to progress it- given Kyron’s age and the facts of the case.

    In fact, I can say with impunity that the first time I have been “floored” in this case in a very long time by a public reaction was following Elaine’s People interview in January- by Kyron’s parents. In summary- both said- (sic) Super, she’s talking, now take the HOV lane if you have to- but head on down to MCSO… For me, that was a clear and concise example that these two have no current information on the investigation and no plans to escalate it. By law, MCSO and MCDA know where TH has been every step of the way, they have not contacted her for an interview in over 6 years. That knowledge would send me through the effing roof and to this day I have zero understanding as to why it did not -them. My best guess is to avoid the alternative outcome.

  43. January says:

    I believe that DY continues to hound Terri (even though DY knows about the man leaving with KY out the south entrance) because DY thinks whoever the man was, he was in on Kyron’s abduction with Terri.

    I don’t disagree with that, but I have heard her use statements that are completely false- effectively negating her acknowledgement of same. This makes zero sense to me if one wants to locate their missing child- regardless of how he got that way.


  44. MockingbirdSings says:

    snipped –

    The manager at International Fitness said the toys and messages left on the wall were falling apart, with gym members and potential gym members expressing unhappiness about the way it looked.

    Rusty Sanduski said he received permission from Kyron’s father, Kaine Horman, to begin removing the toys and cleaning up the grounds. Some posters and other items remained on the wall Wednesday.

    The goal, Sanduski said, is to create a new, more permanent display for Kyron, likely a plaque.

    “I’ve basically been working with Kaine to create something that is very weatherproof, and you know, when you drive by and look at it, the animals and the toys that were up there – they were wet and dirty and it didn’t look good. I don’t think it represented the foundation well, and it definitely didn’t represent International Fitness well,” Sanduski said.

    He said the gym will fund a new project, with permission from Kyron’s family.

    Kyron’s mother, however, said she was not consulted about removing the existing wall of hope. Desiree Young said the decision is upsetting, with the wall and even the age of the toys meant to show that hope will not be lost after all these years.

    She said the items placed on the wall over the years were thrown away like “trash.”

    FOX 12 attempted to contact Kaine Horman on Wednesday, but did not hear back from him.
    Posted: Jul 27, 2016 6:40 PM PST
    Updated: Jul 27, 2016 9:52 PM PST
    By FOX 12 Staff

    I have been mulling over how to comment on this all day. I believe I advised everyone a few weeks ago there were things going on behind the scenes- of the legal variety. Because of that, I voluntarily agreed to withhold the series to include TH interviews temporarily. This certainly limits my ability to comment directly of course- so there’s that.

    In the alternative I offer a few thoughts.

    1. There is an active civil order/agreement whereby both Kaine and Terri may not harass each other directly or by a third party.
    2. #1 is an enforceable item in an active reunification agreement involving the parties mutual daughter.
    3. In June 2015 DY and TY used the wall of hope as a backdrop to espouse criminal allegations against Kyron’s sister and brothers Mother and Ms. Spicher. In June 2016 parties previously named in civil court as stalking and harassing Ms. Horman, took the oppty to do that some more, in Kyron’s name at “the wall.” It was full of mold-infested stuffed animals and as i recall, a rotting bible under a tree. No doubt well-intentioned folks left such items to honor Kyron, not to spew hatred or cast baseless aspersions.
    4. As I pointed out in January 2016- DY comments about being glad “we were able to do that” in response to a loosely framed question about TH not seeing her daughter further aligned her with the hater crater. AND.. Kaine.
    5. You have an ex-gf posting openly about Kiara- to include an assertion about a Moms day card from Kiara, and announcing her involvement in a photo op for an award at a car show held in her brothers name.
    6. How many 3rd parties did anyone think it would take before something was done?

    Let me go out on a limb here. Kaine, who shares a daughter with a woman I believe is being actively persecuted by DY and the hater crater- is not going to allow anything he is involved with to interfere with an agreement he made which is binding and wherever the haters go “in his sons name” unlike Desiree- he will be insuring there can be no mistaking the fact that he does not agree with it and wants no part of it. That includes Mickelson and her contentious posts which we have all discussed here are to harass TH and the situation in general- in the first place. I can promise you that whatever is done in the future at the “wall of hope” it will be done through the gym and The Kyron Horman Foundation with zero input from Desiree unless and until she quite publicly ceases all personal negative public commentary and/or any involvement with groups that intend to persist in same.

    I can also say with certainty there is a reason Kaine did not speak publicly about the removal and won’t be.

  45. erose says:

    You are so right Rose. What a difference it would have made. Two mothers are better than one, if they get along and join forces.

    All, After six years I still need Blink to remind me someone saw Kyron leave thru the south entrance with an unknown male. Apparently I’ve been so brainwashed by the “last seen with TH” comment over and over and over again, still now to this day.

    Rose says:
    July 26, 2016 at 11:41 am


    The two ladies could’ve gone to Skyline every day and sat in the principal’s office til they got the real story.

    I have seen most of the coverage evolve to “last seen at the school” but agreed there are still a few outlets who are apparently allergic to fact checking.


  46. Rose says:

    re typos, I’m speculating Briede is no
    longer a majority owner of Edge. The
    real question is why Briede put it up
    at the site of a new kickoff business, just
    opened, in the first place.
    A “wall” to a kidnapped
    probably dead 7 yo was a marketing turnoff
    to any parent, and the children they put in the
    babysitting room.

    like kiara, perhaps?

  47. Rose says:

    Yes, Blink, for kiara to see that fence by the parking lot with weathered stuffed animals interspersed with strangerware every time Kaine took her to the child care room as a 3-4 yo was emotionally abusive in my opinion.
    Imo a poor visual metaphor for kidnapped brother.


  48. Rose says:

    @SS4me. after cursory reading, it seems Desiree was the protestor, but not on her own Gofundme updates. she apparently wrote Soldier directly, attesting to their liaison. . Based on the new Corp owner name, Xtreme is apparently in new majority owner hands. It looks like Kaine went along. But Desiree spazzed out. Frankly I think that memorial beyond tacky & gym did Kyron no favor. The alleged c 2000 weathered artifacts reduced him to a”Toon” imo. She can do a Medford memorial for a Medford boy that she can tend. Not to be callous, but to reduce Kyron to an obscure gym’s chainlink fence is cartoonish. Or fundraiding 101.

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