Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview
New York, NY- For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case. Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman did not speak to any reporters or answer any of their questions regarding Kyron Hormans disappearance. Until Now.
Horman courtesy of People
Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions, and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include wwww.blinkoncrime.com.
In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning, Horman maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.
“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”
“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”
Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.
“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent. I want her to tell me where Kyron is. If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”- Desiree Young
“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date. To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page
Christina Stoy, www.blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney, Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.
Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview. Um, What?
Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.
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this sentence after quote mark is my comment, not part of cd’s post, to clarify.
imo to what motive but generating more donations.
deferring to Tiny, a professional on the iep’d toileting training.
(For me, any el ed classroom job would be Way Too Hard
& wearying. So thank you for your service.)
The articles seem to say PPS has no policy. That is in line with
today’s Editorial re Supt interim by O. One commenter mentioned
hoping really dysfunctionalprincipals keep rotating among low income
schools. I cannot figure whether Keefer’s two (George, now another) comment
on his comoetence or punishment, or on his social appeal to parents.
Since PPS has no policy, it is a matter for a principal’s discretion, unless the iep
specified para’s sex for a founded instructional reason. iirc pps is functionally gender-blind wrt instruction.
for some ieps, toileting is an instructional skill. To answer Kim S’s Q, which she could’ve answered way
fast for herself, it’s Maryville, whose principal conveys a strong image on their site.
I expect when she said jump, the para said how high?
clarification:
i didn’t mean Tiny was a TT professional, but that she’s familiar with ieps as a spec ed professional.
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OT Blink was the “shining star” whose mother committed suicide from TN, or was it MS?
Could that have been a kidnapling/trafficking case at heart, but she fought too much & lost her life?
o/t: Rose, you are thinking of my dear friend Kelly Hale, mother of Megan Sharpton, from TN.
Excellent question- but there is no connection to either Sharpton or Bobo, both former cases of mine.
Interestingly, I am not clear on how TBI is calling the sting cases of trafficking in the first place as there were no trafficked individuals- it was sting regarding fake minors. I am wondering if they are vying for grants or some Fed money?
I have a pretty unpopular opinion as an analyst wrt the reality of human trafficking – as it relates to missing persons cases specifically. I say this because I have worked on several where inevitably some LEO suggests the possibility in lieu of a solid case strategy in cold cases. There are NO solid studies and the best info is voluntary self report- https://traffickingresourcecenter.org/sites/default/files/NHTRC%202015%20United%20States%20Report%20-%20USA%20-%2001.01.15%20-%2012.31.15_OTIP_Edited_06-09-16.pdf
Either way- in context with US crime stats and most importantly mp cases- the possibility/probability that a mp (most definitely high profile) is a victim of human trafficking comes in around slim and nil.
B
ot
activist J Keefer comments:
https://m.facebook.com/comment/replies/?ctoken=1050980298312800_1051079374969559&p=-24&count=7&pc=1&ft_ent_identifier=1050980298312800&gfid=AQDQCAVoMxoE1byx&refid=52#1051111674966329
may his janitor_joe twitter reactivate….
erose
Mail in ballots cannot be easily changed, but they can be conveniently lost. Also, the mail in ballot is subject to forgery by those who want to stuff the ballot box. It takes unscrupulous people inside the elections system to make that happen.
Clean voter rolls that are kept up-to-date are the best way to prevent fraud. Voter ID by a drivers license with photo or other document with a photo and a voter registration card that matches also help prevent fraud. This is the prime reason that there is such a fight to prevent photo ID by some organizations.
The Motor Voter laws were passed to aid in creating opportunities for voter fraud. The States should be in charge of all voter requirements and the feds should be ignored when they attempt to intercede.
When toileting was on an iep (not often) and when it involved me, also not often but over 20 years it did, male paras were never involved in female toileting. Female paras were involved in male toileting. That is just the way it was. But honestly, the female paras involved in male toileting were usually of a mature age (definitely over 35). This was in a different state. Oregon is severely lacking in special education skills (IMO) and I would not want to work in this nutty environment (and I don’t) or have a child at the mercy of these idiots.
Rose says:
August 5, 2016 at 4:51 pm
@TRith. The only possible explanation in my opinion is both bios FEAR SZ will be connected with their or their associates’ circles and activities. (And after they raised all that money, repeatedly accused TH, they are right to fear they themselves may be the link between Kyron & SZ.)
B I N G O
A Texas Grandfather says:
August 7, 2016 at 12:12 am
erose
Mail in ballots cannot be easily changed, but they can be conveniently lost. Also, the mail in ballot is subject to forgery by those who want to stuff the ballot box. It takes unscrupulous people inside the elections system to make that happen.
Clean voter rolls that are kept up-to-date are the best way to prevent fraud. Voter ID by a drivers license with photo or other document with a photo and a voter registration card that matches also help prevent fraud. This is the prime reason that there is such a fight to prevent photo ID by some organizations.
The Motor Voter laws were passed to aid in creating opportunities for voter fraud. The States should be in charge of all voter requirements and the feds should be ignored when they attempt to intercede.
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There is no constitutional requirement for i.d. to vote. I fear the day that we are required to all show i.d. in the polling place. I submitted my i.d. when I registered. That’s that. No more.
I feel that lately, ATG, you have a very big podium on this forum, and it is for making pronouncements about subjects that are reflecting your political views. Unfortunately they are your opinions, not facts, but I have to ease off this forum now because it seems that you are permitted to say many things about political issues, about laws, about many subjects other than Kyron’s case, without ever being challenged. So I sense that means that most people here agree with what you say, and I find that troubling.
I absolutely cannot tolerate lies about the issue of voter fraud, which is not the problem that you want people to believe that it is. And I am not going to pick a fight over your false statements here.
I am, instead, no longer going to post here. As no one EVER confronts you when you insult groups of people, lie about the motives of others (such as your comment about groups who are fighting voter i.d. laws), and overall, make sweeping announcements here based on only your opinions concerning issues very much unrelated to finding Kyron, I feel I’m outgunned, and I’m also too ill at this point in my life to fight back.
ATG, I am always personally insulted by much of what you write, because I’ve spent a 20+ year working life fighting for the rights of people who you FREQUENTLY flat out lie about. This post of yours, above, was the last straw for me.
Thank you, Blink, for the opportunities extended for me to voice my opinions here. I wish to soon read on CNN that Kyron Horman has been found.
Best wishes to TMH.
I held this post a while for 2 reasons- 1. I wanted to read posts you reference for myself and I am extremely limited on time to do so. 2. I was hoping if I did you might have thought better of it- as I can tell you from experience I have regretted nearly every post I have ever written in anger about someone else’s post.
Disclosure- I am intensely protective of ATG. Mostly because I know him to be the kind of man who would prefer to chew off his own finger than intentionally hurt someone. I do not always agree with him, and certainly that is not a requirement, lol, but I do very often. I find posters like you and he both bring very different but excellent insight to BOC and if posts have become overly political- the fault rests on me. There are posters here I may not agree with politically, but they are brilliant analysts and critical thinkers and I count you among them. I have zero interest in discussing politics in this format and this election season- in ANY format with ANYONE. I have never seen such a greater divide and my intention here is to progress a case, not sway political stance. Let’s scroll and roll if necessary and if you are unwell- I wish you a speedy recovery and prayers.
B
Regarding mail-in ballots – I love having them in Oregon. I am not aware of any fraud issues specific to mail-in ballots. You do not have to mail them – you can deliver them yourself to locked ballot boxes in various, well advertised, neighborhood places including libraries and fire stations up until 8 PM voting day. I always voted, but I was always in school or working and usually had to wait in a long line for my turn before or after the work day.
I much prefer paper and pencil to voting machines which can be “remodeled” from time to time and were set up in various well-organized places such as a room in a church, school, funeral home, etc. that you had to walk or drive to. If you are sick or the weather is bad, or you depend on a senior center bus, etc., you can still vote. I think Oregon’s system works well for mail-in ballots. It also stopped all the last minute, repetitious ads – since so many people already voted, it wasn’t worth the money. Exit polling also stopped.
OT @ ATG. Aw I loved those cubicles with heavy curtains and levers to pull I went into with mother in the 50s.
I have no doubt they were to stuff the ballot box in TX not to mention Cook County for years.
As for requiring a voter id, I and others voting are registered. I would be most offended if I walked into my neighborhood precinct, gave my name and address, and was carded like a 21 yo in a bar. While I agree with mbs re the mailin reliability for a registered voter (the county can easily tabulate one vote/one registration), on the other hand some special “formalities” ie a special local neighborhood site must be balanced against accessibility for all. Extended hours, ie a 24 hour staffing, might suffice. Seeing neighbors at the precinct may be the only time one sees old faces and friends and reaffirms a sociocultural institution.
O/T Thanks ATG and MBS wrt mail in ballots. We are very rural and have been mailing in for over 20 years, I hardly remember going to a poll. I know the over seas military votes in much the same manner. It is not the people who do vote by mail that I think whose votes could be manipulated, however it is the people who do not vote by mail whose votes I can see subject to fraud.
Soldier, the don’t for doesn’t dame, remains either reading comprehension challenged, or just Trumpesque (sorry Blink) confabulating to ber meager public about your interview. To help her out, here are the dict defs of “pending”:
“pend·ing
ˈpendiNG/
adjective
1.
awaiting decision or settlement.
“nine cases were still pending”
synonyms: unresolved, undecided, unsettled, awaiting decision/action, undetermined, open, hanging fire, (up) in the air, on ice, ongoing, outstanding, not done, unfinished, incomplete; informalon the back burner
“nine cases were still pending”
preposition 1. until (something) happens or takes place.
“they were released on bail pending an appeal”
synonyms: awaiting, until, till, until there is/are
“they were released on bail pending an appeal”
Feedback”
Patience, Soldiers (and their Directors).
One doesn’t need to know the subject content of Pending to know the conclusion
(interview publication) will come. I have confidence in Blink’s timing.
I gather the FB agitation relates to Soldier’s generals perhaps being concerned what will be revealed.
TH is subject to a mutual RO with Kaine, but not his first wife.
Makes all kinds of sense, and so completely senseless when it comes to finding your missing son.
Tiny says:
August 7, 2016 at 10:53 am
Rose says:
August 5, 2016 at 4:51 pm
@TRith. The only possible explanation in my opinion is both bios FEAR SZ will be connected with their or their associates’ circles and activities. (And after they raised all that money, repeatedly accused TH, they are right to fear they themselves may be the link between Kyron & SZ.)
B I N G O
MBS
You are correct in staying with a paper ballot which provides its own audit trail. Any fraud is then subject to being found if the proper steps are taken for investigation.
Erose’s question made me do some investigation regarding electronic voting machines. I found some studies done by a group at Princeton University that details all the areas where these machines can be compromised. The touch screen machines are the least secure with others that do not create a paper receipt. The touch screens are subject to a breakdown of the screen over time that allow a touch for a particular candidate to extend to another candidate and also allow more votes in a precinct than the count of registered voters.
This happened in Montgomery County, Pa. in 2012 where there are only touchscreen machines. It also happened in Philadelphia County, Pa. where some precincts reported votes of 140 percent of the registered voters, all votes for Obama. That is impossible unless there is some type of fraud.
Rose
Your statement about the bio parents of Kyron being connected to family or friends that point to SZ is the prime reason that the investigation went nowhere. IMO the steroid connection is the trail to follow. MCSO and possibly PPS people could not follow that trail because it would have outed the whole mess of corruption.
It burns me up that an innocent child is the prime victim while the woman who provided the real mother function is persecuted by LE and the courts.
Tiny says:
August 7, 2016 at 10:50 am
When toileting was on an iep (not often) and when it involved me, also not often but over 20 years it did, male paras were never involved in female toileting. Female paras were involved in male toileting. That is just the way it was. But honestly, the female paras involved in male toileting were usually of a mature age (definitely over 35). This was in a different state. Oregon is severely lacking in special education skills (IMO) and I would not want to work in this nutty environment (and I don’t) or have a child at the mercy of these idiots.
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My experience was in a PPS high school, but the life skills needs were still there. I was the official counselor beginning with my first year for approximately 275 kids (the highest in the district) on IEPs at my school (wide range of needs). Just to stick with the current issue being discussed – don’t forget to think about money.
As the county stopped overseeing the most difficult teenage kids to care for (non-communicative and in diapers and wheelchairs), the classes moved into several PPS schools. We had one county class and also one self-contained life skills class with somewhat higher skills, then 3 more self-contained classes above that, and the rest in a variety of regular classes. People were not knocking down the door to take the assistant jobs in those classrooms. Ideally, there would have been a male and female well-trained aide for each self-contained classroom. Instead, one would be hired and the Sp Ed teachers would try to rotate in the schedule so they could provide appropriate help by need and gender, but there was a lot of lifting and some students would hit you and be uncooperative. Sometimes an aide who was absent got a sub and sometimes there wasn’t one. Sometimes a student had to stay home if a sub wasn’t available and their needs could not be met. Gender wasn’t the top concern.
As I said, think money, not policy. If you write appropriate policies you are responsible for funding and accountability – better to hold off on writing any but the most general. They built one new handicapped restroom to fit a regular wheelchair, but the really large motorized ones had to be taken to the big restroom in the cafeteria which then had to be closed while in use although it was built for multiple students.
It’s a much longer story, but I’ll just say I’m confident there were opportunities for some abuse, but also confident there was a LOT of room for misunderstanding, and woefully poor district support. The teachers I knew and still remain friends with were amazingly protective of their students, constantly alert, and never stopped pushing for more help. We tried to protect each other too. I had other students on my caseload and other work to do, but sometimes, if called, I would go stand by a restroom door while a teacher or aide assisted a student in case I was needed in an emergency (for an especially difficult student).
These kids were not mistreated, but did any district officials ever specifically wonder about their welfare? Not that I saw in 17 years. I suspect the issues have not changed much no matter what the grade level.
OT The Kyron abduction PPS coverup is in character for this Board of Ed and Admin.
Real reporting would uncover multiple PPS conspiracies of silence that go to the
highest BoE level. One example: I looked up the R Leary
whose recent new contract PEPP complained about (although
putting the no bid contract in his organization’s name rather than a direct payment to his name is progress). I found the minority community Leary says he serves asked for an audit of his yearly stipend in 2015: http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/274135-149288-group-demands-pps-equity-program-audit-
Amazingly, the BoE chair of PPS’ audit committee, Rosen, just said no. Audit Chair in 9/15 said PPS would only do 2-3 audits per year and had chosen to audit administrator’s salaries. A year later no audits have been reported altho in June the O said those salaries would be audited “next month” (July ’16). Rosen should be removed from BoE audit responsibilities. One wonders how many audit staff PPS has and what they do in a workday.
@ ” A Texas Grandfather says:
August 7, 2016 at 11:37 pm
Rose Your statement about the bio parents of Kyron being connected to family or friends that point to SZ is the prime reason that the investigation…”
ATG to clarify, I did NOT say “the bio parents being connected to family or friends that point to SZ.” I know of no connection and personally do not think that the case. I do not think SZ was connected to any adult in K’s life.
If it was not an opportunistic stranger abduction, my opinion is SZ’s connection would be to Kyron himself in the Skyline setting. What I opined on was the Bios FEAR in the face of the unknown that SZ might prove to be connected not to Terri but to
them as a motivation driver.
OT Hate our County touch screens. Don’t trust them. Mail in sounds great to me as one option. Mailing is too big a hurdle for me as an unorganized person. The mere act of getting a stamp on an envelope overwhelms me.
So I often drop off stuff in person. I’d drive to a free drop off site like MBS described.
ATG in some States (say PA) voter fraud will occur somewhere by either party by any voter means in use.
OT followup, from BoE materials on July mtg re that Admin compensation audit.
No need to go past last paragraph on p 1:
http://www.pps.net/cms/lib8/OR01913224/Centricity/Domain/219/08-04-16%20Final%20Packet.pdf
Basically the independent audit firm said we coukdn’t get enlugh salary and compensation info out of PPS
to reach any meaningful conclusions. So PPS’ own auditor (who was as critized by that statement as HR was)
said outside contractors need to try being more collegial and our depts lack enough financial support to comply with outside auditors’ requests for data. Sounds like a big F on the only audit BoE Audit Chair Rosen engaged in this year.
The 3rd partiy’s complaint they coukdn’t shake info out of PPS makes me wonder MCSO’s actual success in doing so re SZ. Only Depositions in a suit against PPS by a bio likely had any shot at it. Again, what did each of them FEAR would be revealed as any PPS defense? Actually such a suit had a better chance of getting TH on the stand under oath than either of their civil gambits. In the divorce, she had the power to settle. In Young’s, she had criminal jeopardy. In a bio suit against PPS, PPS’ defense would call her to testify to steroid use in the home & her reporting. That limited testimony woukd not jeopardize her criminally in the abduction.
ot this is rumored to be the man who will run against Reese for Sheriff:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-martinek-ab056822
He was PPB Operations under R Sizer whom Adams booted for pressing for more budgef. So one
understands why Kafoury wanted an early leg up for the budget-cooperative Reese.
Rose
I am not offended when I have to present ID in order to vote. I worked our precinct in the elections of 2000. The primary and the General election. All the current people who run the precinct know me on sight, but they follow procedures and ask for my ID. This is to prevent someone who might try to use my ID from being successful.
This year in the primary, the machines were connected to a local server with solid state memory to collect all the data. That media was then removed and physically taken to the county court house for recording the vote. I didn’t observe the procedure. However, the physical transport of the media is a weak link where an unscrupulous person in the system could, with technical help, substitute and identical marked memory unit for the real one. This is very unlikely, but possible.
I voted using those old mechanical machines you described. Our current machines are those that use a rotatable wheel to select the vote and use an enter key to make the vote. There is a review section to look at all of one’s choices before the final entry. No touch screens. I always review my choices as there is not a printed receipt for an audit trail.
So so sad that this is where we are with that lovely child still missing and with no one, other than the persecuted TH, willing to go back to square one where this needs to go. Scared and selfish, yes, selfish bio’s, IMO. I think Rose, your statement about the connection between the bio’s and their activities is where a fresh start is needed. Sadly, likely not gonna happen. Too many folks f’kd up with much at stake.
O/T re voting rules. In Canada, the registered voter goes to the polling station listed on your voting card. Your name and address is on their list. You show valid ID that has name and address on it. They compare to the list. If it matches, you go in a booth to pencil X your vote. You fold it and drop it in the ballot box. No way to perpetrate fraud unless the boxes “get lost”. Maybe that’s what happened in our last PM election. Not too effective, IMO, but gee, he’s got good hair. LOL
The mail-in voting here is very convenient, though I too miss seeing neighbors at the polling sites that you sometimes never got to meet up with otherwise. In CA, I always enjoyed walking to the nearby neighborhood polling sites and chatting with neighbors. Here in OR, we, like erose live in a rural area so I would have to drive in to town to vote, but then at some point, I’d have to drive in to town to mail my ballot anyway, though not necessarily on election day as we receive our ballots well in advance. The main thing I didn’t and still don’t like is that it costs everyone 47 cents to exercise our right to vote. However, as MBS pointed out, one can drop of an unstamped ballot at City Hall’s etc, in the designated ballot box. The only other thing I didn’t and don’t like about voting via mail, is we are required to sign our full signature on the OUTSIDE of the mailing envelope. (which is matched to the signature they have on file and is to prevent fraud.) Your ballot is inside that one in another envelope (called a secrecy envelope). So, what bothers me is everyone who ever handled that mailing envelope from the mail man to whomever sorted mail at the PO to whomever receives it at the election facility, now has access to your personal signature. I think it would actually be smarter to have three envelopes, one for mailing, one with your signature on it inside the mailing envelope for verification, and then the secrecy ballot envelope.
One other thing that the mail-in ballots did, was hurt many local small businesses. When we had a business in a small town, voting day was one of the busiest days of the year, people heading to the polls often would stop in at local restaurants or stores on their way to and fro. Not a huge deal, as it was only one day a year, but it truly did take away business from some entrepreneurs.
Rose says:
August 8, 2016 at 8:30 am
(snipped)
The 3rd partiy’s complaint they coukdn’t shake info out of PPS makes me wonder MCSO’s actual success in doing so re SZ. Only Depositions in a suit against PPS by a bio likely had any shot at it. Again, what did each of them FEAR would be revealed as any PPS defense? In the divorce, she had the power to settle. In Young’s, she had criminal jeopardy. In a bio suit against PPS, PPS’ defense would call her to testify to steroid use in the home & her reporting. That limited testimony woukd not jeopardize her criminally in the abduction.
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Absolutely, I could not agree more. Why was PPS not sued by either bio? This case would have advanced one way or another, no doubt in my mind at all. Why, for instance didn’t Eldon Rosenthal suggest that to his client DY, when she dropped the civil suit, or instead of initiating the civil suit in the first place, go after PPS and stones would have been turned over. Rosenthal would have been aware of the scenario that would have played out in court, so why didn’t it happen? One has to wonder.
Rose says:
August 8, 2016 at 7:42 am
@Rose –
There are some people in the community they serve who are seldom, if ever, seriously challenged or examined re money, program, contracts, grants, etc. (You mentioned one.) I could give you multiple reasons for that. I’m not saying they don’t do good work, but I believe ALL would benefit by more openness and collaboration.
I’ll give you one example – Self-Enhancement, Inc., a longstanding, much awarded program in North Portland worked with many of my students. They did help and support many of them, but if a kid required extraordinary patience, personal attention, and resources, he or she was booted from the program before they could be counted as a “failure”. One young man I tried to get them to keep in the program longer was murdered not long after exiting. NOT saying it was their responsibility, just that a deeper look at the issues did not happen because some kids were dropped before being included in their stats, not because they were threats but because they could predict the lack of success potential.
When you handpick those you work with, you can get pretty good results and more financial support in the future – so I suppose “the good of the many outweighs the needs of the few.”
I can’t point to anyone I could say did this (enrollment policy) on purpose, but either way, I understood it. I just found it sad.
Rose, You’re not off topic at all.
Rose says:
August 8, 2016 at 7:42 am
Kaine implies Kyron is an active memory.
http://katu.com/news/local/community-gathers-for-5th-annual-car-show-for-kyron-horman
Yup. He chose his wording kindly and respectfully, imo.
B
What is ACTIVE MEMORY?
Written by Pam MS, NCSP | Fact checked by Psychology Dictionary staff
a memory which is presently the primary focus of awareness or was not too long ago in consciousness, as independent from the massive body of accumulated memories that are presently dormant. Activation takes place via recovery cuing. As mentioned in one concept, a concept in short-term memory is a concept from long-term memory which was triggered,
ACTIVE MEMORY: “Thoughts stored in active memory are never far from one’s reach.”
What is ACTIVE MEMORY? definition of ACTIVE MEMORY (Psychology Dictionary)
http://psychologydictionary.org/active-memory/
By KH’s logic if LE was talking a lot that would mean they have nothing. I would imagine his comment is to convince someone that the heat is still on, but who is he really trying to convince of this? And who are these new resources? Look at what six years of evasive comments has yielded. When will they come to their senses and release the information that should have been made public day one. This secret is so tightly guarded it belongs in the record books. How can so many people stay mum for so long.
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At the car show, Horman addressed those in attendance and updated them on the case. He told Fox 12 it is still very active.
“The less you hear from us the busier it is,” Horman said. “We have more resources that are running down new leads as a result of some time back going through the case a couple of times.”
http://www.kptv.com/story/32704972/kyrons-wall-of-hope-will-remain
Posted 08-08-16 This is old news, right? Also, DY asserts Kyron went missing between 8:45 – 8:55.
http://conservativenews247.com/video/view/41257/Is-Oregon-Boy-Kyron-Horman-Missing-at-the-hands-of-His-Stepmom-Pt–1
Part 2
http://conservativenews247.com/video/view/41256/Is-Oregon-Boy-Kyron-Horman-Missing-at-the-Hands-of-His-Stepmom-Pt–2
Rose
Thanks for the clarification regarding SZ and the bio parent connection. I apologize for the error.
If I understand your point, it is that Kyron may have been connected to SZ at school and SZ was angry for something the bios said or did regarding him. The bios then fear this will be revealed to them if the investigation goes as it should.
MBS
I salute you and all those who work with these disabled children.
I am old enough to have gone to school at a time when there were very few allowed into a regular classroom. We had one child in my grammer school class in first grade who’s mental ability was less than 80 on the IQ scale. He could not even recognize the bodies needs for going to the rest room or if he did, he did not understand what he needed to do to get permission. The summer of my second year in college, he came by my mothers house where I was visiting and told me he finished the 6th grade that spring. Those with physical disabilities that required wheelchairs or who had hearing or sight issues were not allowed into regular classes. They all attended a separate special school.
Today, the schools in our area have classrooms where some have to be strapped into their wheelchair. The caregivers are all women. These poor little ones are just barely alive. It takes special people to work in that situation.
I remember one morning after a middle school band class, I was practicing in the empty band room when the caretaker of a class that could move by themselves were being taken on a tour of the building to teach them the layout of it. They heard me practicing exercises, broken chords in all keys and wanted to see what was going on. The teacher/caretaker asked if they could come and listen. I invited them into the room and then got out my Arban book that has over two hundred classical and popular songs from the 19th century in duet and solo form. I entertained them for the next forty minutes.
Predictable in this State:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/08/genetic_mother_wont_be_allowed.html#incart_2box
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I suppose the best evidence the 2 bios were not driven to get Terri on the stand under oath is that neither sued PPS in a tort civil action. PPS absolutely would not have “let” MCDA or others interfere with judge selection or self-selection. PPS would have called Terri in defense to testify about the home and school-based events of the morning and about any other PPS defenses such as illegal steroid use and Terri’s report of same. The bios would’ve gotten her under oath and subject to cross without MCDA’s interference. So, for all their claiming they wanted her on the stand, either they or their attorneys couldn’t reason out suing PPS over the abduction was the only viable avenue to do so, or again they were dominated by fear of the unknown or some personal vulnerability.
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“Thousands of emails released by Portland Public Schools suggest administrators knew the water inside some schools was unsafe for drinking since at least 2011.”
“Among the emails are conversations surrounding warning stickers for faucets tested positive for lead. Administrators decided not to use the stickers because they wanted to “avoid alarm.””
“Tamara Rubin, a lead safety advocate and mom to children who attend school in Portland, said the district knew about lead problems in 2009.”
http://katu.com/news/local/portland-public-schools-release-thousands-of-new-emails-about-lead
“Other documents showed that in 2008, PPS realized the filters put in drinking fountains were not actually reducing the amount of lead. The emails also show PPS hadn’t performed district-wide lead testing since 2001, until summer 2016.”
[**of special note**]
“Among emails between faculty members and administration, there are a number of ‘whistle blowers’ calling the district out repeatedly for ignoring the health and safety of students, even suggesting schools were intentionally allowed to fall into disrepair to justify a new bond measure.”
I can’t speak to the grant/bond issue to PPS specifically ( w/out any time to research it) but I can say that in terms of overall Govt funded entities you had better believe the grant writing business is alive and well.
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yes, a well worded statement, and also Kaine needs to document publicity for his activities for awareness for “all” missing children for the IRS.
I think all publicity for Kyron is bad publicity unless it is truthful and accurate. This should have read
Kyron was last seen at a sci fair visitong a K/1 room bt a teacher and others before going outside to help a school visitor.
I am disappointed to read Kaine will be installing permanent fixtures on the fence.
It needs to be removed. Then if he thinks the most suitable site for an
active memory plaque to kyron is his own gym, erect it there.
The problem is the HC and Young seem to see that as their chain link fence. I think it was Missing Kyron FB
that pictured someone had filled the links with colored bits of paper promptly. It will be like a competition to
see how fast HC members with fill up the chain links with impermanent materials vs Kaine and the gym as long as it stands.
I do not believe DY or anyone else sees it as “their wall/fence” any longer. As private property, it is my understanding that going forward folks will not be permitted (crater) to affix anything on their own, nor will it be used for any sort of events that are not in line with its private property status (and insurances).
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MockingbirdSings says:
August 8, 2016 at 12:42 am
Well said. I could not have said it so well, I too, was professional support staff and was in the bathrooms frequently and would work, in the old days, with OT on cathing programs. That wouldn’t happen so much anymore. Your description fits exactly what I see in Oregon. Those on the ground in the trenches are doing what they can but budgets and politics get in the way of running things the way that they ought to.
There is a good book about a Down’s Syndrome child and the history of special ed in the early days. It is titled “Jewel” by Bret Lott. ATG’s post reminded me of it. Special Ed has certainly gone through changes over the years but as in regular ed it should always be about children. And, sadly, it is not. Ask Kyron.
thankyou erose for realizing this us a term of art in certain caregiving communities.
wrt “little faded almost like a faded memory, and we don’t want that. We don’t want Kyron to be a faded memory, we want him to be an active one as part our community”
Kaine’s “interview” posits him, the recipient of “community” (the gym attenders?) feedback, as the prime removal mover, not new owner.
He is repeating language receive from a psychology student or similar.
Not his original thought imo as active memory us apparently a professional term of art. Just makes me wonder who he’s dating now.
Rose says:
August 8, 2016 at 10:05 pm
Predictable in this State:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/08/genetic_mother_wont_be_allowed.html#incart_2box
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I agree I have always suspected that all of the accusations and vitriol aimed at Terri by the bio’s was more about keeping her quiet the getting her to talk. An example is how upset Desiree and company get whenever Terri makes any public statements. Remember the fit Desiree had when Terri dared to speak to ABC news and People magazine. Desiree and her minions said they would never buy a people magazine again.
Desiree told her followers not to read what Terri said in the People article before Desiree even knew what was said in the people magazine interview..
If you really wanted someone to talk then you would welcome any venue that they would speak out on. Not try to to shut them up.
As for finding out what happened to Kyron all they needed to do was give Terri immunity. But the bio parents don’t want to do that because they don’t want Terri telling what she knows and they know she doesn’t know where Kyron is anyway.
Are the precipitators for the dr
apptmt terri set up (unusual
worrisome behaviors) relevant
to SZ profilng?
They are relevant from the perspective of victimology only at this point-but because it cannot be excluded. We don’t have access to the victim or SZ to say with certainty if there is a nexus.
What I can say is both the Mom he spent the bulk of his time with and the Mom he spent bi-monthly weekends with leading up to his disappearance have BOTH stated publicly they had concerns about Kyron’s behavior over the previous year. To my knowledge, only Terri mentioned this and took steps to evaluate the possible causations prior to Kyron’s disappearance. The first time I heard DY mention any concerns similarly was during the Dr. Phil appearance in July 2013.
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ot likely interim supt generates backlash;
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1061939750550188&id=489336124477223
a Skyline principal long ago
2016 more recently “Learning Center and Richmond:
Peter Hamilton, retired administrator serving as an interim”
ot bcz I’m moved by this just
googled PR.
https://youtu.be/kbJsht2CmYE
only of interest to fans say of yoyoma
& joshua bell etc. I just made a
RT drive in 2 days to take a repaired bow up.
if anyone knows a serious string middle or high school student,
get them there: tho STILL no ATT towers in the region.
@ATG one of the best, whose online interview led me
to my kid’s 1st teacher, has been esconsed at UT El Paso (z bailley).
Next month, Kyron would/will be turning 14. If Kyron was taken and is still being held alive by someone who wanted a *little* boy to abuse, then what would be the likely circumstances as the little boy aged out? Would he be killed? Sold? Trained to help kidnap other little boys?
It seems if this stranger was some sort of serial abductor/murderer, then he would have struck again by now seeking another younger boy. And if it was so easy for this abductor to slip Kyron away from that school, without a trace, one would think he would try it again elsewhere.
I still feel Kyron was being molested by someone and was silenced, that makes the most sense to me, but I hope I am wrong and he is alive somewhere.
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Kaine calling Kyron an active memory bothers me for some reason. Memories are not living things, they are thoughts and recollections filed away in one’s brain and over time may not even be remembered accurately. That terminology “active memory” makes it sound like KH thinks Kyron is deceased, but his memory is alive. JMO
Missing Kyron FB has a picture of colored papers someone put
in the links after mgmt removed the impermanent stuff.
new gym owner will have to erect a sign
on the fence anyone defacing the Wall is subject to arrest;
then install an exterior camera imo.
Hi all, I have comments not showing back from the 8th. Is all okay?
T- appollies, all up.
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When I read this article, the first thing my mind went to was Kyron. The possibilities are nearly endless IMO in regards to what could have been done to him. Held nearby for a couple days then carried across a border, subdued or worse. What a nightmare for all who love him.
http://6abc.com/news/couple-arrested-at-mexico-border-with-childs-body-in-bag/1464513/
MBS
The lead problem at PPS may be just a reason to make application for some type of federal or state grant. There are filters that could be placed on all the drinking fountains that will remove lead and other metals. These are sixty-five dollars retail and will filter 600 gallons of water. The school district could probably buy them in bulk for one-half the retail price.
The mother that was in the article who instructed her children to take bottled water may not realize that some recent testing has revealed that some bottled water has a many contaminants as tap water from the local water supply. So what is a concerned mother to do? Don’t take water of any type other than distilled. It would cost about one hundred dollars to have a complete water test performed on a sample of water. It would take multiple samples to prove the average of contaminants in a water source. Way more than an individual might want to spend.