Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes

I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010.    Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past,  I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another.   This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases.    I am proud of that.  I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.

Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom,  Terri Horman.   Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey.    Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child.    There are dozens of sources,  collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.

Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did.  I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping.  Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode.    When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her,   I most certainly respected that.  I still do.

While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure,   I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth.  There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions.     Not what I signed on for.   A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience.   He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.

I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil.   I appreciate your patience and your understanding.   Feel free to discuss the show below.

 

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  1. Rose says:

    omg Kyron’s first year-long full-time on his case ADA is now on the Multnomah Bench, of course the easy way by gov appointment when someone retires early (as Kantor did for the Gov, earning him big bucks as AG Ellen’s advisor.) https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2019/03/director-of-portlands-police-oversight-office-to-become-gov-browns-public-safety-adviser.html She’d been Gov’s appointee (beginning under Kitz iirc) as Public Safety honcho. In my opinion shewas unqualified for that (unlike her successor who is) AND the Mult bench. Iirc, she was a pretty undistinguished line level ADA, but had a politically powerful father in the Legislature.

    Yowza.
    B

  2. Rose says:

    ot
    https://www.oregon.gov/newsroom/Pages/NewsDetail.aspx?newsid=3206
    imo she is as abjectly unqualifed as Baggio is more than qualified. Bet no one dares run against her when the time comes. Interestingly, amongst her credentials cited for the Bench is handling Kyron’s investigation for the DA its first 1.5 years. That’s better than her losing case where jurors found her as having racist behaviors. She was a direct contributor to Kyron’s investigation’s mismanagement for a year and 1/2. If I were a Portland resident I’d be busy in Dem circles recruiting someone to run against her whenever the vote is up (she’s probably been given the apptmt with the longest time to an election), preferably a Jewish male embeded in Temple Beth Israel.

  3. Rose says:

    more on Heidi’s replacement:
    https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2019/03/27/director-of-city-of-portlands-independent-police-review-steps-down/
    which highlight’s what a plum pol apptmt Barker’s daughter got after her undistinguished ADA gig.

  4. Rose says:

    it seems AG Ellen has THREE Special Counsels.
    https://www.doj.state.or.us/media/doj-bios/office-of-the-attorney-general/
    One is very well educated, if young. One is very experienced, altho her State Govt area of expertise (child welfare agency) has had trouble repeatedly of various sorts. Then, one retired as a judge after 22 years, tho one would think judicial retirees would do so after 25 or 30. Maybe he’s just working for 3 more to get that pension. 2 of them have identical “work on legal issues” language. One doesn’t.

  5. Rose says:

    Kantor apparently handed his job off to the Gov’s GC.
    And his reward was a highersalary, meaningful for State retirement.
    https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2017/07/kate_browns_state_lawyer_skipp.html

  6. Rose says:

    Heidi https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2010/05/jury_acquits_shawntell_moses_o.html
    https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2010/05/jury_acquits_shawntell_moses_o.html
    http://animallawconference.org/heidi-moawad/
    Opinion: If she sticks to animal rights litigation, she’ll be fine.
    She has no background in complex civil or business litigation.
    If she starts trying family cases—child protection, divorce & custody, goodness help the families & children before her. The irony will be if Desiree achieves her goal of a Terri arrest, & she’s on the criminal bench. An ethical person would recuse, but the fulltime ADA managing the investigation as to Mult law, onsite with mcso she said at the time of the Sting, is not likely to be overburdened with ethics or judgment.

  7. Rose says:

    how she lost her cachet in the Gov’s Office,
    & moved out toot suite:
    https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-lawmakers-new-assignments-judiciary-housing-committee/

  8. Rose says:

    posting not for the content (haven’t really read & don’t care about this unknown blogger’s pov) but because it is a source of copies of emails between Merrit, Blake & Dan, plus some hx re Quintero & Schneider. https://www.google.com/amp/s/cuttingthebs.wordpress.com/2017/04/05/dan-kavanaugh-enterprises/amp/
    Blake & Dan come off awful & Merrit more decent, relatively speaking. Since Dan’s 2 buddies have a drug import hx from Mexico, I guess it could’ve been Dan who precipitated the massacre.

  9. Rose says:

    oh bother, to quote Pooh.
    Soldier features a Q&A with Desiree.
    I don’t believe for a minute it was the brainchild of
    a bear of little brain, because Desiree was/is johnny on
    the spot immediately & prolific in her answers, as would
    be a prime mover whose idea it was.
    she’s getting her message across & what a message it is.
    Unfortunately she has as much credibility as a figure now on
    the national stage. But they both have their bases.

    Amongst her answers are: Kyron followed T to her truck & left with her; searches are ongoing; T will be arrested when Kyron is found; T was not arrested for a MFH on Kaine as a strategy to make the prosecution stronger when she is tried for K (did Heidi feed that line to her in ‘10-‘11?); theCA jury let her go bcz they mistakenly thot she was borrowing the gun (+ oh brother & how frustrating); “T is a very disturbed human, evil” Enough…
    ———-
    One can guess who I think is very disturbed, & she seems to get a heightened
    level of activity each year with the onset of DST & more daylight hours, fwiw.

    Did you happen to notice those answers are devoid of legal citation/and the fact that 2 gj’s have been dismissed? There’s just no way anyone “inside” is saying that to her. Its not even reasonable.
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  10. Rose says:

    distilling all that, it is mcso/da assurance to Desiree
    they will arrest T as soon as K is found. The MFH/Kaine will
    come in to show T’s State of Mind I guess. Some MCSO detective
    continues to represent to Desiree that Kyron left the school grounds
    with Terri period. There was no event in Mathews’ room.
    MCSO/DA continues to repr to Desiree a body must be
    found to prosecute. ( Now Tony’s historically gung ho
    prosecution with no direct witnesses & no weapon in a murder case, so how
    does that fly in their house unless it’s a house divided?)

    Some of that Portland media (who were those folks ostensibly after facts rather
    than merelyregurgitating bio/mcso-speak? Beth, Maxine, Kyle?)
    need to sit down withReese and ask him why his “detectives” have told Desiree this stuff?

  11. Rose says:

    one can guess mcso will want that trial under
    Heidi, & I bet she’d love the publicity.

    The institutional thing I take from this is Reese doesn’t have control
    over his own Dept, except likely Corrections & the Budget,
    and probably won’t until Gates retires.

  12. Rose says:

    a night of surprises. https://www.mcso.us/site/pdf/org_chart.pdf
    I don’t see Gates, do you?
    Reiser now deservedly Chief Deputy- Enforcement. Newcomer at Investigations
    (that’s more like meth labs & trafficking & gangs.)
    Still Smith Investigations & Gosson Detectives.

    Iirc Gosson was the Elder who by his canny wiles got that old lady
    who killed her husband. Iirc he is a good detective but loved his
    wiles to bring who his gut says is guilty to the confessional.
    So, imo the prime mover of Desiree’s Q& A designed to rattle Terri
    is most likely the mcso Detective in Charge who fed info such as
    mcso had recent searches & will have more before June. the analysis
    of the CAjury. the plan to arrest T, the call for tips.
    I don’t see Gosson taking a new investigatory approach.

  13. Rose says:

    self correction.
    It was krafve & kubic who pursued
    Hazelynn Stomps. Where are they now?

  14. Rose says:

    dog with a bone here.
    See the paragraph heading
    ”Investigators”
    https://www.wweek.com/portland/article-12305-the-kyron-files.html

    I went to look up Gosson’s 2010 Kyron case mgmt dates.
    At least as of Aug 3 2010, he remained Lead Detective.
    Much has been made of Bob O’Donnell, but Gosson was
    lead detective iirc in his role on E Cty Majr Crimes team.
    Andhe’s been back as lead detective under Reese. He is no
    doubt he is eager to complete his 2010 job & arrest Terri,
    I bet he suggested the Q& A strategy to Desiree. At least it would
    be in character.

    I have never interviewed Gosson- you can imagine not even task force members from other jurisdictions are willing to speak on the record on an active case. Nothing would surprise me at this point, least of all a returnee from the woodshed thinking differently as a result.
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  15. Rose says:

    Gosson’s apparent lead Det successor was Krafve, at least he was in charge in May 2011 onthe Task Force, which iirc began the preceding Oct. So it was Gosson whom that Fall Staton had thought was stuck.
    https://kval.com/news/local/inside-the-kyron-horman-war-room-11-12-2015
    More about Krafve, who only made Det Sgt in 2011, & he said he was made Det Supv & Cold Case that year after
    having come from Int Affairs.
    https://www.kjk-investigations.com/about
    his training was 6 yrs Corrections; 4 yrs School Resource; 8 yrs JailDet; 1-2 yrs Internal Affairs. I don’t get his website descriptors bcz after he made IA Svt in’09 he was out there w/kubic interviewing Stomps.

    A reminder on this link if you want to access it:

    http://dpsstnet.state.or.us/PublicInquiry_CJ/smsGoPerson.aspx

    One thing I have not had the oppty to research is how long police certifications are good for in Oregon.
    B

  16. Rose says:

    those Calif stings which Desiree was so into—the gun anyway—occurred after Gosson was back at Lead Det in Charge, & he apparently briefed Desiree about the gun jury problem. And he was Lead Det at the time of the Rudy sting. So that investigatory MO bodes ill, because it is not in fact investigation. It’s just any ol trick to get the gal will do.

  17. Rose says:

    Gates retired Feb or March ‘19.
    https://pamplinmedia.com/go/42-news/414956-316561-lead-wood-village-sheriffs-deputy-to-retire-
    Krafve late ‘17
    Sgt Jan Kubic of SIU seems to have disappeared fromthe chart too.

  18. Rose says:

    forgotten gossip
    in 2014 Gosson had been moved from Detective to Inspections
    while Krafve had been 2 yrs in his former position over Detectives.
    http://multnomah.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=3&clip_id=848&meta_id=55963

    Not by us, lol. Thanks for the reminder. According to my research to include interviews, Gosson was vocal early that ODonnell was out of scope (kind term) and TMH came across as “truthful” to him.
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  19. Rose says:

    re Tips:
    DDY “It’s been a great year of progress
    so far. Let’s keep up the pace.”

  20. Rose says:

    If anyone reading this knows Reese, or say his retired HS PPS counselor wife who may or may not chat over coffee, one might gingerly suggest with Gates,who was there from 6/4/10 supervising, having retired this March, it is an opportune time for a parttime hire of a ret’d PPB or State Police detective to hand him this case lock stock barrel & resources, leaving nary a piece of paper with Sgt Gosson because he had it in 2010 & it needs fresh eyes not someone aching to validate his 2010 “stake the farm on my bet” theory.

  21. Rose says:

    boiling down the info likely an mcso Sgt wanted DDY to “get out” :

    There are lotsa ongoing tips. We want more.
    There have been lotsa searches.
    More to come in near term.
    Terri will be arrested when we find Kyron.
    The MFH will be prosecuted at that time.
    The jury was confused in CA gun case.
    Kyron left school with Terri who is evil.
    It’s been a great year of progress.

    Maybe that Sgt’s trying to fend off
    retirement pressure now Gates is gone.

    Oye. Is that a quasi quote or para summary Rose?

    Lol at the jury was confused in the CA case. Was she there? Um, no. They returned an acquittal in under 13 minutes with first vote unanimous to acquit and waited for one juror to use the restroom and another to finish their coffee or it would have been 4 minutes. The Judge in that case said on the record to the prosecutor it was his belief she was being prosecuted because of her “name” and in his experience he had seen similar cases backfire. ADA denied this and the rest is history. Oh, and don’t forget Iboshi interviewed her attorney at length after the verdict and it never aired. Again.

    B

  22. Rose says:

    ot
    this lasted on the front page of the O only a couple hours https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2019/04/opinion-time-to-raise-the-bar-for-district-attorneys.html 1st commenter when I first saw it was J Foote DA. Commenters using his ACLU employment to tarnish House Bill 3224. Maybe this bill was why Kotek pulled Chair of Judiciary away from Barker, either way

  23. Ode says:

    https://www.theindychannel.com/news/national/police-investigating-whether-teen-found-is-boy-who-has-been-missing-for-7-years?fbclid=IwAR1EQdUVerI_MJEKivocfs8TdR_RT3sR8q6HeI6wqXDbyMOcpEv6Ls7f4qE
    Missing 6 year old boy from 2011 may have been found.

    I am late to moderate this Ode, I will comment on your last post. Sorry for being behind.
    B

  24. erose says:

    Amazing.

    Teen found by police says he is Timmothy Pitzen, Illinois child who disappeared 7 years ago

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/teen-found-by-police-says-he-is-timmothy-pitzen-illinois-child-who-disappeared-7-years-ago/ar-BBVAA2b?ocid=spartandhp

    Criminal scammer, unfortunately. I can’t recall if I mentioned this to y’all previously, but if I had not- I recommend netflix “THE IMPOSTER”. I am holding off on recommending another that featured one of my trainers/lecturers from the FBI. I realize most of you are likely more mature and less easily provoked than I, but I venture a guess it will make you throw shit (or some other form of tension release LOL)
    B

  25. T. Ruth says:

    O/T

    timmothy pitzen

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/04/04/teen-says-he-escaped-captors-he-claims-hes-boy-that-vanished-years-ago/?utm_term=.c863d7f7ce76

    (snipped)

    But at least one additional detail seems to link the 14-year-old discovered in Kentucky with the 6-year-old who went missing in Illinois.

    The Cincinnati Enquirer reported that the teenager told authorities he was born Oct. 18, 2004 — the same birthday as Timmothy’s.

    ***********
    I hope and pray it is the young man and he gets to go back to his family.

  26. erose says:

    OMG, not him. How incredibly sad for his family.

    FBI rejects teen’s claim to be long-missing boy

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/the-latest-teenager-is-not-long-missing-timmothy-pitzen/ar-BBVCZ5L?OCID=ansmsnnews11

  27. Ode says:

    Well just ignore my previous post. Fake news.

  28. Rose says:

    ot
    Pitzen. Just amazing Ppl don’t grasp, & officers don’t orient other family, that a successfully suicidal mother is also a successful homicidal mother, & going to a “safe” place is her psychotic version of heaven. Now Desiree has told both men & women on Soldier’s site (by definition outliers) to go hug both male & female parents of missing children. In this age.

  29. Rose says:

    ot Elden makes a press appearance.

    The Washington Post: Years of turmoil and complaints led the Southern Poverty Law Center to fire founder Morris Dees
    https://wapo.st/2FSrMte

    “The incident she detailed most thoroughly involved a group dinner at Dees’ home. He asked where her husband was and, hearing he was away, encouraged her to drink heavily and offered to drive her home, Costello wrote. A few minutes later, she said, Dees brought a board member, Elden Rosenthal, into the conversation. “Sure, we can take her home, especially if her husband isn’t there,” Rosenthal said as both he and Dees laughed, according to Costello. 
    Costello said that she complained the next day to Rosenthal, and that he dismissed the incident as a “joke.” She said she talked to Cohen about it and later to Bryan Fair, the chairman of the center’s board. Rosenthal, Fair, and Cohen did not respond to requests for comment. “

    I heard Dees speak at a Bar event c1986. Everyone knew he was a womanizer. I think he’s on Wife 6.

  30. Rose says:

    Hello, Blink.
    I just skim-reviewed my as yet unmoderated postings.
    My gut says no mcso personnel assigned to this case,
    June 4 ff, Gosson, Krafve, O’Donnell, ever had a snowball’s
    chance in H-ll of solving it. All a macho mess who “solve”
    by aggression rather than seasoned intelligent abstract thinking.
    You’ve been saying that more kindly forever.

  31. Rose says:

    quasi quotes, here are the real ones w/some abbreviations, credit to Soldier’s FB page, lately Desiree’s public communication channel it seems. I doubt they’ll mind bcz they’re getting their messages out. Gosson has been the lead detective. I do not think D’s new campaigning online via Soldier is without his approval, if not suggestion. She’s not doing it via gofundme.

    1. Why T was not arrested for MFH/Kaine. “It has to do with a strategy by LE, it makes K’s case stronger when they prosecute”
    2. “We have had several searches in the past few months, we also have some planned prior to June. Really hopeful we will something and be able to arrest her. (“royal” we indicates a lack of ego differentiation with mcso staff)
    3. “we are getting tips all the time.”…”It’s been a great year of progress so far”
    4. “the jury mistakenly thought she was ‘borrowing’ the gun, she took it out of this guy’s safe and left with it. Oh brother. Darn frustrating…”
    5. “Is an arrest imminent” “yes, we are just waiting to find Kyron. Then the arrest will come.”
    6. I erred: “Terri is a very disturbed person, evil” came from the foil questioner.
    7. “Didn’t I read that someone saw her leaving the school with K?” “yes,absolutely. She left the school with K following her towards the direction of the truck.”
    ———
    “If you know the parent of a missing child today, please hug them.” & repeats instruction to hug in next paragraph. She projects her own wishes & experience onto others similarly situated.
    ——
    School Staff: only Porter & Gardes remain. and Ibarra. and Griffiths now teaching was an omnipresent pta parent back then.
    https://skylineschoolpta.com/stafflist/
    ——-
    Blink I feel in the strongest terms that DY is getting her info on the Calif trial, the searches, & the “imminent arrest” as soon as K is found, & that TH is the ONLY suspect direct from mcso Sht Gosson or his supervisee with his clearance

    For starters, her information is inaccurate- in some aspects, grossly. If she truly had an “agent” within MCSO that would not be the case. One of the most difficult aspects of this case is that I TRULY understand the emotional and psychological reasons for a parent of a missing child to want to keep their childs disappearance in the public eye- “on their terms”. It cannot even be argued that one thing this case is chock full of is attempts by BOTH parents and the DA to control the narrative.

    It looks like Spicher continues to be ommitted from her “dialogue”- as far as I know, this is the strongest reason everyone should be suspect (at best) that ANY member of LE is having any conversations with DY that include investigative information that is case sensitive. Why you ask? Because I have personally reviewed documentation of the legal variety that expressly states that MCSO is not giving her info she says they are- and that if she publicly states otherwise she will be in legal “do do” on her own. This again, a kind description.

    I mean- just ask oneself- does it make sense that she is saying that LE is sharing information with her when she quite literally said that she was withdrawing her civil suit because they categorically refused to? MCSO has flatly refused comment “we cannot comment on ongoing and active cases” to any inquiry they received pursuant to her participation in any upcoming “shows” or publications of any kind and now that we are two dismissed grand juries without an indictment (so first unequivocally had to dismiss on a no true bill) she is choosing that hatercrater site amidst intermittent bans or whatever goes on there because no legitimate news outlet will quote her when they know from their own sources it is simply false. That is all this is. Nothing new certainly- that site is filled with nearly 9 year old links. I am in no way making excuses for the behavior by saying even though it is false that I understand her need for it. It is absolutely underscoring the question- nearly 9 years later with no Kyron and no arrest, 2 defunct grand juries and apparently great conflict in her own ideas of where he is- why aren’t Kyron’s parents doing everything in their power to escalate the investigation to review by another agency, or request the FBI take it over? And why 9 years later isn’t anyone pointing that out?

    B

  32. Rose says:

    “why aren’t Kyron’s parents doing everything in their power to escalate the investigation to review by another agency, or request the FBI take it over? And why 9 years later isn’t anyone pointing that out?
    B” http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/#comments
    —-
    So as not to revisit custody w/Mother due yo a significant change in circumstances (both remarried), Kaine MUST maintain the 2010-13 case investigation posture, TH is THE focus of the investigation. The FBI etc would not attest to that as mcso indirectly told the Court thru him. Desiree has her determination based on feedback ftom someone w/in mcso acting on his own not the agency. Her delusion is born not just of her loss but of her weak ego strength which makes reality testing problematic. As long as she has outlets in Soldier & opportunist media trying for the upteenth time to make a new series eye catching clickbait, she’ll soldier on. I follow veggie personas on twitter, ie Turnip & Belle Pepper. Gotta think of a vegetable to represent Soldier’s infertile field; I am tired of typing Soldier. Maybe Squash. Still trying to Squash Terri.

  33. Rose says:

    “One thing I have not had the oppty to research is how long police certifications are good for in Oregon.
    B” http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/#comments
    Krafve shows Active. 2 sons in the biz. 1 resigned mcso to do same in vancouver wa. Shockingly, to be a Deputy in Corrections, one needs only 2 yrs of “life experience” post HS, & starting salary is $60k. Then of course one works up to School Resource then Detective & real bucks.

  34. Rose says:

    Squash took your DeDe reminder as a challenge it seems.
    As DY’s veggie mouthpiece, she just spewed seeds on Spicher.

  35. Rose says:

    “There’s just no way anyone “inside” is saying that to her. Its not even reasonable.
    B” http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-118/#comments
    I submit it is possible to way underestimate individual mcso enforcement/investigations (or formerly so) employees’ incompetence & ditto for Medford PD as press has stated in theDennis Day case.

    How could argue I against your valid point? I can’t as I have probably been guilty of it many times over (underestimating valid incompetence, misconduct) in some cases it took years, but it definitely has been validated several times on this very site. Not familiar with any assertions involving Medford PD wrt to Dennis day?
    B

  36. cd says:

    Rose says:
    April 7, 2019 at 11:39 am

    -snip
    1. Why T was not arrested for MFH/Kaine. “It has to do with a strategy by LE, it makes K’s case stronger when they prosecute”

    This is what I think about the MFH(s)

    LE knows that even if they were able to indict Teri for MFH on Kaine that they could never prove it in court. The case would either be dismissed or Teri would be found innocent due to a lack of evidence. This means that if they were ever able to bring a charge against Teri in Kyron’s disappearance. They could not point to what a bad person Teri was because of a potential accusation of MFH. She would have already been cleared/acquitted of the MFH charge.

    Kaine’s restraining/protection order and ability to keep Teri’s daughter away form her may depend on the MFH accusation. So he needs her to never be cleared/acquitted of this accusation.

    The 30 year old MFH is ridiculous and probably could no be brought up in any legal proceeding.

    I don’t believe that Teri will ever be charged with any MFH

  37. Rose says:

    http://www.metaldipping.com/aboutus.php
    Bo Keepers, alleged supplier of steroids to Canby
    officer & others. moved from Vancouver WA
    to Eugene & found success in metal dipping.

  38. cdtest says:

    Rose says:
    April 7, 2019 at 2:44 pm
    -snip
    Desiree has her determination based on feedback ftom someone w/in mcso acting on his own not the agency. Her delusion is born not just of her loss but of her weak ego strength

    —————–
    I think a lot of what DY says about evidence LE has , searches etc is just things that she thinks will scare Teri into doing something rash and incriminating herself or maybe just make her nervous.

    All the stuff about “stay tuned, something big is coming” (which was last June 2018). Something explosive is going to happen, multiple searches already done in 2019 and more planned. Lots of tips coming in (the tips don’t seem to be of much help in the last 9 years). I think DY believes that saying this stuff will scare TH and make her life miserable.

    IMO
    Probably if they found Kyron tomorrow unless he was alive and could tell what happened and he incriminated Teri, LE still would not have enough evidence to successfully convict Teri of anything in Kyron’s disappearance.

    Maybe DY plans to try for another civil suit. I read somewhere that because DY abandoned her civil suit in 2013 that she cannot file another civil suit unless Kyron is found.

    Even though DY/LE will probably never has enough evidence to indict and convict Teri of harming Kyron. If Kyron is found deceased DY could file a wrongful death civil suit. If DY prevailed in her civil suit maybe she could get The Grand Jury to indict.

    Teri needs to avoid any kind of entanglements with the law because civil suits have a lower bar as far as evidence is concerned. Teri should also stay away from all communication with any of the people involved in harassing her. These people are just trying to bait her and get her to do or say things anything that could be used in a civil suit.

  39. Rose says:

    read the one complaint:
    https://www.bbb.org/us/or/canby/profile/landscape-contractors/rs-landscape-maintenance-1296-90008780/complaints

    Interesting Rose. I have not checked in a while, but he did have a registered biz under that name.
    B

  40. T. Ruth says:

    This is an interesting case, where the detectives in the cold case unit went back to square one. Had they not, it would never have been solved.:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/04/01/feature/the-lyon-sisters-had-vanished-40-years-earlier-but-this-cold-case-team-didnt-give-up-on-them/?utm_term=.f895e23395a6
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    What is interesting to me, is WHY the original LEOs did not take this dude seriously to begin with some 40 years prior???

    If I think about Kyron’s case, in light of this creepy dude’s warping of his knowledge of the Lyons sisters murders, it makes me think of a strange dude, who was never taken seriously, but continued to insist he knew what happened to Kyron via his cousin’s hands. I wonder if LE has ever even bothered to look at DS’ cousin, and wonder why he insisted on inserting himself in the case? Hmmmmm?

  41. T. Ruth says:

    https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2019/04/portland-state-university-professor-who-was-oregon-scientist-of-the-year-facing-child-porn-charges.html

    A Portland State University professor recognized last year as one of Oregon’s top scientists is on paid administrative leave amid child pornography charges.

    Niles E. Lehman, a chemistry professor who has been employed by the college since 2001, was arrested in February after he was indicted on charges of first- and second-degree encouraging child sexual abuse. He is accused of viewing and disseminating child porn images between October 2017 and September 2018.
    (snipped, more @link)
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    Did he enjoy attending school science fairs maybe?

  42. T. Ruth says:

    https://www.hub.ki/members/2815

    More on Niles Lehman ^^^ and an obviously younger photo of him.

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