Sandra Cantu Case: Charges of Rape and Child Molestation Added for Huckaby
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Tracy, CA- The San Joaquin County District Attorney, Robert Himmleblau has announced to the AP that it is considering adding rape and child molestation charges to the criminal indictment against Melissa Huckaby. Huckaby was arrested on suspicion of murder and kidnapping charges in the death of 8 year old Tracy girl, Sandra Cantu. A source inside the investigation has confirmed to Blink on Crime that the public announcement of the additional charges prior to Huckaby’s arraignment tomorrow comes on the heels of her request and retention of an attorney. The specific charges would be considered special circumstances to the murder charge and qualify Melissa Huckaby for capital indictment and therefore eligible for the death penalty in the state of California.
Himmalbrau refused any further comments from reporters regarding the possible updated indictment charges against Huckaby, on the eve of her arraignment scheduled for tomorrow morning in San Joaquin County.
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I am sure being in the same county and all that the police will look into a possible connection. It just made my hair raise to see she was found in an irrigation pond….in the same county. Although, like my husband pointed out, an irrigation would be a potential dumping ground for many killers, so it could be just coincidence. I can’t find much more other than the fact that a killer has not been found.
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=6758499
Jennifer Wadsworth? The eye matches.
I guess she also interviewed Melissa Huckaby on the phone about the briefcase?
Not me Greg. Give Jennifer her coup. We all called Huckaby after the fact on that one.
B
now I realize this is grandma just trying to make the best of the situation, but check out her comments. MH was doing “very well” and she was so glad to see MH and her father together.
Happy to see them together IN JAIL? As a result of raping and murdering a child? Yeah, that would make me glad too…. Interesting, we now have time of she was only gone for an hour: http://www.ktvu.com/news/19172723/detail.html#-
Blink, there was a skelton found by hunters in the woods, in Nassau County Florida on Friday.
Would you see that the powers that be get this missing person’s name. I don’t trust they do much research in checking old missing reports.
Sorry to put it here, but you have no email. Wah. Thanks.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/raulerson_william.html
Blink, here is the report from the news. This is Raulerson’s neck of the woods.
BRYCEVILLE, FL — Some hunters found what they weren’t looking for on Friday.
The hunters were in a wooded area of the Deep Creek Hunt Club on County Rd. 119 (Otis Rd.) when they came upon a human skeleton.
They notified the Nassau County Sheriff’s Office, who secured the scene and began an investigation.
No word yet on the identity of the victim or the circumstances surrounding the skeleton being in the woods.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopula…
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090414/A_NEWS/90414006/-1/rss02
Just came across this and my first reaction was…..Oh just shut the *#&$ up grandma.
If Madison has been gone since the day Sandra went missing, then most likely she doesn’t even know what’s happened. I wonder how Grandma is going to explain why Sandra can’t come over and play anymore?
Hi, Gina.
You had written: “Kayla Reed was found in the Delta-Mendota Canal in San Joaquin County between Tracy and Vernalis, Livermore police Chief Steve Krull said.”
Not saying this is related…but she is female and it occured in the same area and found in similar location….this needs to be looked at I think…”
What kind of information, exactly, are you looking for?
I have the basics on Kayla..
Victim’s Name: Kayla Reed
Disappeared: December 2, 2005
Hometown: Livermore, California, USA
Comments: Fifteen-year old Kayla disappeared sometime during the night of December 2.
Her mother had seen her late at night.
Her mother had noticed that she was still dressed and had told her that she did not want her to go out that late.
The next morning, she was missing, her bed apparently not slept in.
Originally treated as a runaway, local police began to investigate the possibility of foul play when Kayla failed to contact any friends or family.
Over a month later, on January 10, 2006, a motorist noticed a badly decomposed body in a canal in a rural area.
(Delta Mendota Canal) Approximately 30 miles south of Tracy,CA.
Police forensic tests determined that the body was that of Kayla. Police are looking into the possibility that she may have
been killed by somebody that she met online.
Chris
Chris, thank you for addressing and that’s a great start, but you know as well as I that the trail runs cold from there and it needs to be worked backwards. IE: Her Mom reported her as a runaway, and on her myspace she chronically wrote that she wanted to “run away”. I actually think it is a good possibility that she did meet someone online, as long as the case is absent a current boyfriend, bad breakup or custody dispute.
She did not drive, and was found a distance from her home. I smell a local to her home or local to where she was found with the little info available. I expect a sexual assault and a possible COD. If she does not fit other profiles to rule out a person traveling and criminal opportunist, It’s an organized type, and very, very hard to catch. Why? He is picking on runaways and transients and is betting what will happen in terms if this investigation, did. Cold Case= Murdering Freaks Spring Break.
B
This little girl litterally skipped to her death-and the last thing she saw was a monster’s face-and the last emotion she felt was fear. If anybody ever deserved the death penalty, it’s Melissa Huckaby. God rest your sweet soul, Sandra.
Mother ‘Person Of Interest’ In Kayla Reed Slaying
Posted: 3:28 pm PDT October 25, 2007
Updated: 6:38 pm PDT October 26, 2007
LIVERMORE — The mother of a slain teen whose body was found floating in the Delta-Mendota Canal between Tracy and Vernalis in January 2006 has been named a ‘person of interest’ in the case, Livermore police announced Thursday.
Kayla Reed’s death has been investigated as a homicide almost from the moment her body was found.
Her mother, Angel Sheets, had reported her as a possible runaway on Dec. 5, but the coroner determined her body had been in the canal for several weeks when it was found by a worker on January 10th.
According to a Livermore Police Department spokesman, Sheets and her mother’s friend, Dennis Murphy, were both now being considered “persons of interest” in the case.
In a statement made at the time of her January 2006 vigil service, Sheets described her relationship with her daughter as normal for a mother and a teenager. Others, however, said the two had a stormy relationship.
“She was really sweet. She smiled a lot even though she was sad,” said friend Chardonnay Dimercurio, who added that Reed was often sad because of “her family life.”
In her statement, Sheets said she was having a difficult time dealing with her daughter’s death.
“I love Kayla with all my heart,” she wrote in her statement. “To lose her in such a horrific manner is incomprehensible.”
Sheets told the Tri-Valley Herald newspaper in December 2005 that she suspected her daughter was preparing to go somewhere. The next morning, Sheets said, Kayla was gone and her bed apparently hadn’t been slept in.
“It was late, and she hadn’t washed off her makeup or put her pajamas on,” Angel Sheets said. “I told her before I went to bed, ‘I hope you don’t think you’re going to meet a friend.’ ”
Investigators are asking anyone with information about the crime to call Livermore police at (925) 371-4900 or the San Joaquin County Sheriff’s Office at (209) 468-4400.
Copyright 2007 by KTVU.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
-Chris
I posted the information regarding her mother, Angel Sheets and her boyfriend, Dennis Murphy as they both have already been named Persons Of Interest by the Livermore Police Department.
A P.O.I. is simply another term for suspect, but is used to forestall possible legal ramifications.
PRESS RELEASE
I. DATE AND TIME OF PRESS RELEASE:
October 25, 2007 at 12:00 p.m.
II. TYPE OF INCIDENT/SITUATION/ANNOUNCEMENT:
The Livermore Police Department seeks the public’s assistance in the Kayla Reed homicide
investigation. Angel Sheets, Kayla’s mother, and Dennis Murphy are named as “Persons of
Interest.”
Photo of Kayla Reed
III. FACTUAL INFORMATION:
The Livermore Police Department and San Joaquin County Sheriff’s Department continue to
actively investigate the murder of 15 year old Kayla Reed. What began as a missing person
case in December 2005 became a homicide investigation when Reed’s body was found in San
Joaquin County. Both agencies now ask for the public’s help to solve the case.
During this investigation, Detectives interviewed a number of individuals and examined large
volumes of evidence. Detectives now believe that the only people to have seen and/or
communicate with Reed on the day Reed disappeared were Angel Sheets, her mother, and
Dennis Murphy, a friend of Sheets.
Statements provided by both Angel Sheets and Dennis Murphy regarding the day Reed was
last seen alive have been conflicting, inconsistent, unverifiable and suspicious. The following is
a summary of some of the conflicting and/or inconsistent statements provided to Detectives by
both Sheets and Murphy.
On December 4, 2005, about 10:30 p.m., Sheets called the Livermore Police Department to
report her daughter, Kayla Reed, missing. Despite being told an officer would come to her
home to take a report; she did not answer the door when the officer arrived a short time later.
Sheets also did not answer a telephone call from dispatch attempting to let her know the officer
was at her front door.
The next morning, December 5, 2005, Sheets made another call to the Livermore Police
Department reporting Reed as missing. When asked why she did not respond to the officer sent
to her home, Sheets stated she was sleeping and did not hear anyone at the front door.
Another officer was sent to Sheets home to take a report regarding Reed. Sheets told the
officer she last saw her daughter in the early morning hours of December 3, 2005.
On January 6, 2006, Sheets once again told the police that she last saw Reed at their
Peachtree Common residence just after midnight on December 3, 2005. Sheets also stated,
when she awoke in the morning her daughter was missing at which point Sheets contacted
Reed’s best friend, who told Sheets she had not seen Reed. Sheets also told the officers that
only her and her daughter were at her home the night of December 2, 2005, and the next
morning, December 3, 2005.
A review of telephone records obtained by Detectives was unable to verify Sheets’ story that
she contacted Reed’s best friend the next morning.
On January 17, 2006, Sheets contacted the Livermore Police Detectives and requested they
come to her residence to talk further about Reed’s disappearance. At that time, Sheets
confessed to Detectives that she had not been honest about circumstances surrounding her
daughter’s disappearance. Sheet confessed to Detectives that on December 2, 2005, a friend,
Dennis Murphy came to the residence to use methamphetamine with her.
Sheets also stated on the night Reed disappeared, Reed came home and later asked if she
could go back out with friends. Sheets said, she told Reed no, but she feared Reed might
sneak out, so she asked Murphy to help keep track of Reed.
Sheets, told officers when she went to bed upstairs, Reed was in her downstairs bedroom and
Murphy was in the downstairs living room. Sheets also said when she was upstairs she could
hear Reed and Murphy talking, but could not distinguish what they were saying.
Sheets said when she awoke the next morning both Murphy and Reed were gone. A short time
later Murphy came back into the house. Sheets said when she asked Murphy where Reed
was, he said he did not know. She also stated Murphy told her he had just came back from
getting coffee. She thought his excuse was suspicious because she never saw him drink coffee
and he did not have a coffee cup with him.
Sheets and Murphy then got into an argument and Murphy left the residence. According to
Sheets, Murphy did not contact her again until the media presented coverage concerning
Reed’s disappearance on January 17, 2006.
On January 20, 2006, Murphy met with Detectives regarding his knowledge about Reed’s
disappearance. Murphy told Detectives, he had not seen Reed for at least two weeks before
she disappeared and that was also the last time he was at Sheets’ and Reed’s home.
On January 21, 2006, the San Joaquin County Coroner’s Office positively identified a body
recovered from a canal on January 10, 2006, as that of Kayla Reed. That same day, Murphy
came to the police department and asked to speak with Detectives. While talking with the
Detectives, Murphy changed his story and admitted that like Sheets, he too had not been
honest during his initial talk with Detectives.
Murphy admitted to being at Sheets’ residence on the day Reed went missing. Murphy
explained that on December 3, 2005, at about 2:00 a.m. he fell asleep on the couch at Sheet’s
home and when he awoke at 5:30 a.m., Reed was not there. Murphy denied having anything to
do with Reed’s disappearance.
Murphy also volunteered to take a polygraph in the future to verify that he was telling the truth.
A polygraph was scheduled for Murphy on January 25, 2006. On the day the test was to be
given, Murphy informed Detectives he had changed his mind and had decided against taking
the polygraph test.
On September 27, 2006, Murphy provided Detectives with another version of events on the
night Reed disappeared. On this occasion Murphy told detectives on December 2, 2005, he
went to Sheets’ residence to smoke methamphetamine with her. While there, he heard Sheets
complaining about a large quantity of methamphetamine missing from her residence. Murphy
said Sheets began to blame Reed for the missing drugs.
Reed began to cry, denying she had anything to do with the disappearance of the
methamphetamine. Murphy alleged, Sheets pushed Reed against the refrigerator in the kitchen,
and then physically held her against the refrigerator. Murphy says he heard Sheets tell Reed
something to the effect of, “This could get me killed, but it’s not going to get me killed, it’s going
to get you killed.”
Murphy stated he left the residence due to the argument, and when he returned, Sheets was
visibly upset. He also stated when he returned Reed was no longer in the residence. Murphy
said Sheets told him not to tell anyone he was at her home the night Reed disappeared.
On February 22, 2006, Sheets agreed to take a polygraph test at the Livermore Police
Department for the purpose of determining if she attempted to conceal any physical evidence,
or had any direct involvement in Reed’s death. Two of the questions asked of Sheets were:
“Did you help anyone take Kayla from your apartment?”
“Did you try to cover-up any physical evidence from that night?”
The results of the polygraph test showed that Sheets’ answer of “No” to each question was
“indicative of deception.”
On February 16, 2006, a relative of Sheets called and spoke to detectives. The relative stated
in December 2005, they accompanied Sheets to the Stoneridge Mall in Pleasanton, California.
The relative claims they accompanied Sheets to the mall for the purpose of distributing missing
person fliers containing information about Reed. The relative told Detectives they saw Sheets
“walk around a corner” with the missing person fliers. When Sheets did not return after a few
moments, the relative became curious and went to see what Sheets was doing. The relative
alleges they witnessed Sheets putting Reed’s missing person fliers into a garbage can.
There was initial speculation that Reed’s frequent use of myspace.com website for her social
networking played a part in her disappearance. After thorough investigation, detectives found
no evidence to support this theory, and conclude that Reed’s communication on myspace.com
is not a factor.
Based upon the inconsistent and conflicting statements of Sheets and Murphy, in conjunction
with other evidence, Detectives have concluded Angel Sheets and Dennis Murphy are
PERSONS OF INTEREST in this homicide investigation. Detectives are concerned Sheets and
Murphy are withholding additional information regarding Reed’s disappearance.
The Livermore Police Department is seeking the assistance of the public and request that any
person with information regarding the disappearance and/or murder of Reed, to please call
Sergeant Josh Ratcliffe at (925) 371-4733.
IV. LOCATION OF INCIDENT:
At the time of the homicide, Angel Sheets was living at 1425 Peachtree Common, Livermore.
V. DATE & TIME ARREST:
N/A
VI. PERSONS OF INTEREST:
Angel Sheets Dennis Murphy
DOB: 03/18/65 DOB: 09/08/65
Photo of Angel Sheets Photo of Dennis Murphy
VII. CASE NUMBER: 05-009886
CONTACT PERSON: Lieutenant Scott Trudeau
PHONE NUMBER: (925) 371-4730
Should you require further information please call the contact person designated in this press release. If the contact person
is not available, and you have a deadline, please call the on duty Watch Commander at (925) 371-4820.
Steve Sweeney
Chief of Police
O Chris. Im the analytical, logical, empathic investigator. You are the brilliant, data-driven, factual clinician. Our wonder powers have been activated, lol.
A bit more seriously, I am reminded of a conversation I had with Ken Lanning you will find germain. I will make the assumption you know who that is given what forum you belong to because they worked together for many years. Mr. Lanning has a deep mutual respect for J.D… I consulted with Lanning on a case that has me sleeping with the light on to this day. I was giving him my brief when he stopped me in the middle, and said.. You remind me so much of an old colleague, J.D. He would work a case, or be called in, and in record time, sometimes minutes, he would walk out of the scene with this deep scenario of what happened, who was involved, and how to catch them. Our colleagues would chide him mercilessly. I think he was referred to teasingly as our resident psychic for a while.
Here’s the thing.. HE WAS NEVER WRONG..
FF to the Lanning (Chris part): What made JD not look rogue, even though the bulk of his work was spot on from the start, as we all know, we have to be able to back it up scientifically, conceptually, evidentually, etc. There has to be stand alone objectivity to act as the prism for all other incoming data. Point being (sorry I took the long way around) the combination of those skillsets can solve cases and this poor Kayla’s case is compelling and heartbreaking, and there it sits, unsolved. Ya in?
Blink
ps. Kudos to Gina, I think it appears unrelated to Sandra’s case; but it could have been just as easily. God Work
B
Your fellow savant-
Blink
when I heard that a women, a mother even – a playmate’s mother, I was relieved that Sandra has possibly been spared being violated sexually. Maybe even the death was a tragic accident. I’m sick to my stomach and want this monster dead.
Blink I have to agree with you, that it’s virtually unheard of that something like this happens without a ‘man’ somewhere in the scenario. Whether she took video of young children to give or sell to a man or she coerced young girls to bring to a man.
As for the statement above that there are just as many women pedophiles as male, I beg to differ. There is plenty of research available that states to the contrary. And even more research to state that women who commit murder against children typically do so when the child is much younger than Sandra was. This is definitely an unusual case.
I also agree with the poster who asked “I wonder how many other children she’s killed” and the post above by Gina. This whole thing is definitely going to blow up in to something much larger than I originally thought.
“We’ve had a pretty good idea about what happened in this case, and we’ve been moving forward and heading in the direction of making arrests,” Lt. Scott Trudeau said Wednesday.”
Apparently her mother had skipped town just after her body’s having been found.
And police were unable to located her.
(As of Feb 18, 2007)
“Early on in this thing, we were able to establish a short list of individuals that we feel are responsible for this,” Trudeau said. “We’ve been in the process of putting this together. We’re waiting for some different evidence to come back, and we’ve got some other things that are in the works.”
He did not elaborate.
-Chris
oh and PS. I truly hope a gag order isn’t issued.
We have a right to know what happened, and as hard as it will be to hear…Sandra’s parents have a right to know. Sandra deserves that justice.
It is becoming clear that Melissa Huckaby is just a patsy. Oh she was undoubtedly involved in one way or the other but the fact that the Tracy police are basically claiming that she was a lone nut who carried this out alone says more about the “elite” in Tracy trying to contain the fallout of this story before it starts exposing Tracy’s paedophile industrial complex that has flourished for so many years to with the open protection of the power elite of Tracy.
Of course any association of the word “elite” with the City of Tracy is absurd except in the most relative sense. For people who end up in Tracy are losers who move there for the most part because they cannot make it in the Bay Area — even the mediocre suburbs in Contra Costa County. And so the incompetence of the Tracy “elite” in covering up their little paedophile problem should not surprise anyone; these city leaders would never be anywhere near any levers of power in a real city.
And so can a paedophile ring as extensive as Tracy’s really thrive without the open assistance of city leaders — including law enforcement? In Belgium, in the nineties, the Marc Dutroux scandal showed how a corrupt local elite will go to any length to cover for their local paedophile ring. Will the people of California demand the truth or will they get distracted by the next big story and just let the scum in Tracy continue to abuse children with impunity?
This is an interesting website. I’m not sure why everyone feels the need to find and know all the details. It sure seems like you’ve got a lot of rumors going on, though.
But isn’t it possible that she did act alone? That yes, she was a “loving” mother, etc. But maybe something changed just within the last year or maybe she’s had lifelong “demons” she has fought that have gotten worse. Who knows, and I’m not defending her because what she has done is utterly immoral, unthinkable, horrendous, and there are not enough adjectives to describe this terrible crime.
But I think that because of it, we find it very hard to accept that she could’ve possibly done it alone. But not every crime fits some model of some prior crime or criminal. And just because there is a church involved and Christian people, doesn’t mean there were other crimes involved. Some people are very bitter and hostile towards the church/Christians, and they almost want them to be guilty of a crime so they can say, “See, they are all a bunch of hypocritical louses.”
But it’s very possible that her family knew nothing. Maybe she was a moody, sulky, depressed, lonely, unstable, etc. type of person but there are many people like that and their families usually do not think that because they are like this, they are going to kill someone. Think of all the rapes, murders, etc. committed by people whose families/friends were shocked and said it was just not like them, there were no signs, ec. Maybe there were signs, but I would imagine that you just don’t think the person is going to do something like this. It happens with other people, but not someone you know. It’s like cancer, accidents, etc.. when it happens to you, you just think, “I never thought it’d happen to me.” It has always seemed to happen to others but not you.
I read a story not long ago about this man who shot a ton of people from a tower at a university in Texas (can’t remember his name or the university). He had a wife who he’d been married to for many years, he had a good job, and he was a social and friendly type of guy from what I’ve read. But he did have a lot of anger/bitterness towards his father. And I know there’ve been serial killers who didn’t hurt their families and their families were shocked. Maybe they ignored the signs, or maybe they just didn’t see them because their minds just didn’t go there.
Anyways, what’s happened to Sandra is so sorrowful. I’m sure the police are investigating thoroughly, and I don’t think they would say “no one else is involved” if there were even the smallest reason to think someone else was involved. And I think if someone else was involved in any way at all, they’d have them in custody as accomplices.
About the fact that a church is involved- I want to clarify. A church is NOT involved. Huckaby just happened to teach there and go there and it’s her grandfather’s church, and the building itself is involved because that is where she took Sandra. But you are not guilty by association. If everyone were guilty by association, we’d have all sorts of mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, friends, grandparents, etc. guilty for their relative/friend/coworkers crimes. And just because she happened to go to this church and it was her grandfather’s, that doesn’t mean some sort of pornography ring was involved, etc. Human beings are capable of the most vile, horrible, and inhumane acts. And it’s very possible that she acted alone, as the police have said. It’s just that it’s so shocking and hard to understand that it’s also hard to accept.
“Anyone notice how Lane Lawless skulks in the back, and walked seperately from Connie yesterday.”
This in no way proves some sort of guilty concsience. His granddaughter has commmitted an unthinkable crime, his family is being accused of being accomplices, a child he knew has been murdered… by his own granddaughter and on his church grounds, and on and on. But I’m sure this family is also very devestated and shocked in many ways, and for him to “sulk in the back” certainly would be very natural for someone going through what he is going through.
Good afternoon, B.,
I apologize that I took up so much space when posting this information.
Hope you aren’t a bit angered with me for this?
I agree as well.
That this young lady’s murder was most probably sexually motivated and I also believe it was someone known to her on some level, not a stranger.
(But hey, I was very wrong in believing that it was a male and a stranger responsible for Sandra’s abduction-murder)
BUt I feel there is absoultely something very wrong in the statements made by her mother, Angel Sheets and Mr. Murphy.
She was a very attractive young lady and the manner in which she was found certainly is suggestive of this most probably being due to sexual motivation.
I believe the police Lt. stated that the Myspace lead turned out to be nonviable as she only visited a few times and from the local libray computer, as her household didn’t have one.
But since I have never researched her Myspace page, I’d have no idea as to her extent of posting.
You say she “chronically” spoke of running away?
That is an interesting component and is definitely much different than what police were suggesting about the page.
I also agree that this appears, on the surface at least, to be the result of an organized killer.
He’s mobile at least.
IF she had met someone online than I would hoop that police requested any available information from the ISP of the librar she used.
I would have taken a computer or two at a time and performed forensic analysis (InCASE/FTK, etc.) on them to attempt to determine if this was the case.
The answer to her murder is there, as you were saying, just have to go back and take a look using fresh faces and new approaches.
No harm done in tis except it takes time and patience.
Chris
This is more then likely not the right place to post this. However, I’m Canadian and there is an 8 year old little girl missing right now from Woodstock, Ontario. My question for Blink, is the police are calling this a missing person not an abduction. There is surveillance camera showing her walking away with an unidentified lady, so she is considered missing not abducted. What’s the difference between abducted and missing when the child is not with her family?
Thank you Amber for voicing “but I just can’t explain the gut feeling that this is SO not over.” And your “21 questions”! I too think this case goes pretty deep and hopefully will open wide whatever deep,dark, and nasty hole these disgusting people have been playing in. I must say, I think that Melissa’s Family, especially the people she lived with know A LOT and have some moral obligations to come forward with their information. If they want to love and support that piece of crap, that is their problem. However, they need to come forward and tell ALL! I have NO sympathy for the piece of crap in jail or anyone else she was hanging around with.
anipped “Over a month later, on January 10, 2006, a motorist noticed a badly decomposed body in a canal in a rural area.”
Wouldn’t it be a kick in the pants if the motorist was Melissa Huckaby.
My heart goes out to Melissas daughter, the reason being, if she could molest a neighbors child then you know she probably abused her own child….hence the reason everyone is glorifying her for never raising her voice or being mean to her own child….she is a sick indivudial….
By the way I wanted to add…Nancy Grace mentioned on her show the fact that Sandra was skipping and swinging her arms until she got to a certain point (across the road) looked down the way and just changed her whole demeanor….i think its possible this could have been going on for a while…
oops, i left out that I was talking about the last known video of Sandra, Nancy Grace was just nicely stating her opinion of the body language. it does make sense though.
Help me here. I’m probably grabbing at straws. This can’t be the same Fred Williams, can it? I see that it claims this person is still incarcerated, but, it also lists his ethnicity as black – which he obviously isn’t.
http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/cgi/prosoma.dll?searchby=offender&id=1869516700103
When you put this up side by side with pics of FW, it sure does resemble him. I know that these offender registries are not always updated like they should be.
B.,
You had written: “O Chris. Im the analytical, logical, empathic investigator. You are the brilliant, data-driven, factual clinician. Our wonder powers have been activated, lol.”
I like how you put it!
Thanks.
Now my head is bigger than before!
Yes, I know of Special Agent Ken Lanning.
He’s top of his class is he not?
I’ve read many of his writings, one I recall was entitled; Sexual Homicide of Children.
I’ve always been a JD fan, for many years now.
I’ve only conversed with him on his website a few times in private messages.
It must be quite an ego booster to have Mr. Lanning say you remind him of Mr. Douglas..
Have you ever been involved in criminal profiling in some official capacity or do you ever expect you will?
I like your approach to situations, B.
You’re quite a learned opponent. hehe
You do seem to put out very good and detailed information prior to anyone’s learning this.
To be very honest with you, regarding Kayla’s murder, I feel that it’s “closer” to home than we’d like to believe, but that’s how the evidence is falling due to inconsistencies in statements made and location and manner of disposal.
I’d suggest she suffered a physical assault and was subsequently strangled to death.
And there would undoubtedly be indiations of sexual assault as well, if not for her remains having been in a state of advanced decomposition.
Restraints utilized?
Most probably as a control measure.
I wish police would release more information concerning crime scene elements involved.
-Chris
Chris
Chris
as reported by http://www.tracypress.com
“A teary-eyed Melissa Huckaby winced at the word “murder,” “rape” and “Sandra” during a court appearance today at which prosecutors charged her with murder, kidnapping and rape with a foreign object in the death of Sandra Cantu, 8″
And the world is wincing with each new revelation on this case.
The article I read said she was crying, I didn’t see a tear. It looked like she had regressed to a small child. She looked to the men around her to put her in her right standing place. It was reported she was in a State Ordered Mental Health Program. This means she was on medications supervised by them.
My take, Melissa Huckaby is an abused woman/who regress’s to being a child/has a split personality disorder/. She certainly looks mentally ill to me, but I doubt this is going to get her off the hook of this henious crime. Just my two cents.
I have never heard of someone charged with petty theft to get a court ordered mental health evaluation, as was reported on Melissa. I would bet she tried to kill herself, and the State ordered her into their out patient problem after a couple week stay on the mental health ward. These records are private, so unless the family shares, we would never know. Just have to go on how we know the system works.
Sounds like Melissa didn’t get an attorney assigned to her until the last minute. They must not work on weekends in California.
Can’t wait to hear Blink’s take on all of this.
San Joaquin County District Attorney Jim Willett said Huckaby’s mental health issues will have an effect on the case, though how remains unclear at the moment.
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She will plead insanity, and no doubt, she is. Just wonder if her boyfriend Sinclair was involved in any of this.
Very disturbing case.
I watched the same news video and she definitely winced and almost cried when the court read ‘rape with an instrument’.
I believe this may be suggestive (through her facial expressions) that the sexual penetration may have been severe enough, that it was evident during Sandra’s autopsy?
Melissa Huckaby, although at the verge of crying when the court read the charges against her, seemed exceptionally disturbed by the last charge.
It could be though, she has to admit to herself and the humiliation of knowing others now know the extent of her crime, that she’s a very sick woman, to have sexually assaulted a child in such a horrible manner.
But it could also suugest she may have committed and act upon the child that would have been absolutely violent in nature, beyond simple penetration with a foreign object?
I do recall Sgt Shenemen saying they had not found the “instrument” that killed Sandra in one of his press conferences.
And the term may have been suggestive of any kind of item such as rope, knife, or something that may have caused blunt force trauma.
But taken with how this woman responded and the court’s usage of “instrument”, I am inclined to believe her assault went much futher than simple assault with a foreign object.
Huckaby aparently didn’t care about the chil’d welfare or that she would eventually use such force that she’d take this little girl’s life.
But was the penetration ante mortem or post mortem?
Could she have done something to stage the crime scene when finally discovered, making it appear as if a male pedofilic murderer was responsible?
In cases of post mortem penetration with instruments, the evidence is often readily noted as there is less contraction of the surrounding tissues involved and the “location of entry” ( a much nicer word) usually remains dilated more so than if penetration occurred prior to death.
-Chris
ok..so now she’s insane. never mind the fact that she was sane enough to still have her daughter and let’s not forget that she was sane enough to be a sunday school teacher. and she was sane enough to try to cover it up. i guess crazy just sneaks up on ya sometimes huh?
I just watched some news coverage and again watched the video of Sandra happily skipping. This time I noticed that it appears that she is happily skipping across the street to her home and then it’s as if someone called her down the street and she turned to her right and started walking. If she was going straight to the MH house after her other friend’s house she probably would’ve stayed on the same side of the road because MH’s house is on the same side of the street as the house Sandra was leaving. Instead she crossed the street headed right for her own house and then turns away. How sad. How sick.
Most women who “lose it” mentally and harm children tend to be women who hurt their own kids because of a man (Susan Anthony) or they think they are helping their kids in some sick way (like the lady who drowned all of her kids in the bathtub). For a women to try to claim insanity for raping, kidnapping, and murdering a friend of her daughters is something I’ve never heard of and I highly doubt that the insanity plea could stand, irregardless of her history of mental illness. She knew right from wrong and that’s a strong factor in pleading insanity.
Lizbeth, thank you for your input. Finally an ally.
I very much agree all indications are she did this alone and is a truly a monster.
I don’t know why people find it so hard to believe women can be monsters too. It’s one of society’s biggest secrets and b/c “we” (general population) refuse to believe or accept it, it is very possible many of these women have gotten away with their crimes…
Think of the story of Sybil and what her mother did to her in the kitchen. Susan Smith, Casey Anthony, many many other women and now Huckaby. I realize fact of rape is unusual to hear about, but that doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened. Trust me, it does.
Wake up world, women can be monsters too. And the sooner they are brought to justice the sooner more of them will be caught.
You could be right. But personally, I do not think you are. I am pretty good at what I do, which is consult on cases such as Sandra’s, in addition to being an editor here. I spoke to several colleagues today that cannot connect dots with Huckaby. Again, not saying your wrong, just saying that nobody denies women can be monsters, but this case needs a motive, I can feel it.
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Skeptic; hi, I don’t think that Fredric Eugene Williams (the guy in your link) is the same Fred Williams who is the caretaker at the Clover Rd Church. The caretaker is a big guy. The other one is listed as 5’5″.
Fred L Williams is the caretaker. Not Fred E
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Hi Christen,
Thanks so much for all the information. I knew I could count on this site to come up with some viablale info. With this case you just never know and with all the crazy stuff coming I don’t think any child, boy or girl, or any age could be ruled out with this woman. It does sound like the mother in that poor girls case. What a sad shame. I don’t want to start any false rumors and please don’t think that is my intention. I just want justice… for all victims. I just hope and pray this was her first time escalating to murder. If it was, I would bet the house it would not have been her last if she had gone without notice.
My mediocre digging gave me a pause though when I noticed how many of California’s missing Hispanic children are thought to have been taken to Mexico by a relative. When Sandra went missing it was speculated that perhaps her father had taken her to Mexico. The thought of this made me shudder at the possibility.
coolio -Her Father IS VERY strange..Sybil is a good example. It looks like she slips in and out of being a litlle girl. I noticed GrandMa and Dad were the only one that went to see her after court. (Per Nancy Grace) Anywho, this case makes me not want to read about another one as long as I live. Melissa is creepy and if there were somebody else involved, she most certainly would have told the judge who it was today.
Blink, I am in no way doubting your abilities and I believe you understand that. I also realize you may very well have more information than I do.
We just have a difference of opinion and there’s nothing wrong with that right?
Even then you seem like you are more in the middle here, where a large group seems to be on this outer edge of “its just not possible…there really has to be more”
From what I know, it seems pretty clear MH told all to the cops(except possibly motive)and did not leave room for other questions/loopholes. Otherwise, why the official stmt of no other suspects and no other arrests expected?
That sounds to me like they are pretty convinced they know exactly how this went down. Its not like it was only inexperienced Tracy police handling this. FBI investigators who specialize in missing children cases have been involved.
The cops saying this is very strong evidence to me of her essentially confessing. In addition to this, other dots which are there for me:
1. Last known person to see her alive
2. Now admitted Sandra came to her house twice – why hide that the first time?
3. Supposed history of similar age child having narcotics in her system after being with her. People have established here, this is only done for one reason and that is to incapacitate child.
4. She does not appear to be the most mentally stable person.
5. If she is monster who engaged in previous sexual acts with a child after incapacitating them, then she was probably doing that here with Sandra.
6. Did she simply give Sandra too much and she was od’d? Possibly. Its still murder.
7. Once Sandra died, she had to dump the body. Used her own suitcase and made up a very unlikely story about it being stolen.
8. Per one report, she has admitted to having been out to this farm before so knew where it was.
9. Same video that showed Sandra skipping to her house presumably shows MH driving by later as my understanding is to exit trailer park she would have to pass Sandra’s house. Is suitcase visible in the vehicle?
10. We also have her admitting being so flustered not being able to find her keys, cell phone, etc for 15 minutes while suitcase was sitting in the driveway. Yet Grandma found keys and phone shortly thereafter?
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11. There’s this note MH supposedly found day after Sandra disappeared saying Cantu, water, suitcase and Whitehall road and her saying “its too bad they didn’t find her sooner” She obviously wanted them to find her. One thing I haven’t seen answered here is, did MH turn over this note to cops or was it something she just spilled when she spilled everything else last Friday?
12. MH’s daughter Madison being sent off to Grandma’s house day after Sandra disappeared. Said it was a “planned vacation?” Was it?
13. Her hospitalization – appears to be from either suicide attempt or ulcers. When searching for possible suspects, one of the first things cops look for is people who act stressed, guilty, overly strange etc. This hospitalization sure sounds/looks like she had some major guilt issues going on.
14. Cops searched her home and obtained warrant to search the church IMMEDIATELY after Sandra’s body was found. Something connected them immediately to her. What was it? This note? Video of luggage in her vehicle?
15. Cops have admitted MH has been on their radar since the beginning. Hence, the cops stationed outside her room during the hospitalization.
One thing that doesn’t connect is Grandma Connie being home. Was she there the whole time? Williams story about luggage being part of rummage sale could easily be lie MH had told him…
It seems to me, she was a sick monster who just screwed this one up this time. Was it overdose? Was it this idea of Munchausen syndrome by proxy? Was it something similar where she was going to put Sandra in peril and then have it appear she rescued her? Again, getting the attn but she somehow screwed up and killed her? If so, did she possibly do the rape afterwards so it appeared it was a man?
She just really strikes me as not the brightest bulb and definitely not very stable. As someone else said, when do you ever see someone asking for mental evaluation for a petty theft charge. Something just wasn’t right in her head. I also think there might be something with her being jealous of Sandra, who she was as a person, so loving, healthy, adored by her grandparents while Madison was sick possibly high-maintenance child that grandparents might have treated differently than they did Sandra.
That’s my spin. Care to discuss where the dots don’t connect for you and your colleagues other than this just isn’t typical woman/Mom behavior?
I just remember how horrified I was when learning/seeing what Sybil’s Mom supposedly did to her. It was unbelievable, but it does happen….
C4S, yeah, maybe her father is strange. But, how would any father act knowing what his daughter is now being accused of?
Or, who knows maybe he OR her mother (or both) abused her and knows what Melissa did might just be the cycle of abuse continuing. Hence, he feels guilty…. Or is concerned she will reveal she was previously abused by him or Mom to try and “excuse” her conduct or explain her mental problems. Who knows.
Speaking of, do we know where MH’s mother is in all this?
My whole point is I’m just clearly in the minority here of thinking she really did this and am not willing to sway in that belief just based on historical data of “women just don’t do this.” Sadly, I know they do…. so that does nothing for me.
I had been following this story. Cops had been saying for awhile they were moving in the right direction, I deduced they had their person and were just gathering more evidence (I thought possibly home was bugged or knowing what I know now possibly hospital room)
Once I read here that “arrest was imminent” and saw what she said to Tracy Press on Friday, I knew it was her and posted that belief hours before it was even made public she was being interviewed that night or subsequently arrested.
As far as visitors, it was reported elsewhere that 4 people from the family went to jail Monday nite to visit her (first time visitors were allowed) Lane, Connie, Dad and aunt. Only two were allowed to see her. Dad and Connie were the two who saw her. So, if they went again tonite to vist, I’m sure same rules applied of only two visitors.
No, if others were involved, I feel she most certainly would have told them during the hours of interrogation when I believed she broke down and told them everything….
There’s an old country adage that says:there’s nothing sorrier than a sorry man and nothing meaner than a mean woman. I’ve known a few mean women in my lifetime, and believe me, I pity the children at their mercy. Yeah,, women can be monsters-especially to their own chlidren. I have no doubt that an evil woman could pull this off, but, I also think others might be involved; at the most, a group of molesters and at the very least, enablers who looked the other way. I’ve never seen a more corrupt group of people. This whole town makes me sick. What trash.
Cheryl,
I live in an upscale, affluent, university town about an hour and fifteen from Tracy. I am familiar with the area, having worked in that part of the valley (including in Tracy, though I am familiar with the surrounding area as well). I worked there from the 80s to late-90s, then only occasionally over the past 10 years, or so. I had occasion to spend quite a bit of time there last summer, as a friend was living there at the time. The town isn’t trashy, though it does have it’s challenged areas/elements, as most towns that size do. It’s a commuter town, with many SF Bay Area workers commuting home there, since the prices in the SFBA are much higher than Tracy. In fact, my ex-husband, whose family were altruistic peace movement people that worked directly with Cesar Chavez, lived on a little ranchette Corral Hollow Road. He grew up in Tracy, is in his late 40s, and was from an excellent, amazingly kind, altruistic family. Tracy has become increasingly populated with suburban sprawl, and rampant development, over the past 25 years, but it isn’t what I’d consider trashy. In fact, it’s a lot nicer community than most of the southern and central Oregon towns I’ve had occasion to visit, nicer than Albequerque, NM, Trinidad, Walsenberg, or Pueblo, CO, or Chicago, IL (except for the upscale areas), or a host of towns in Michigan…I can think of many places trashier than Tracy. On a trash scale of 1-10, 1 being the trashiest, Tracy would be at least a 6, maybe a 7.
There are quite a few upscale subdivisions of homes, the schools are decent, and the crime rate (until the recent rash of perverse crimes) was historically lower than competing valley towns, such as Merced or Stockton. The weather sucks (since I prefer coastal weather), and the commute is hell (due to all of those commuter families), but to say all of Tracy is trash is inaccurate. Of course, you’re welcome to your opinion, and compared to Pasadena, Palo Alto, Atherton, or Burlingame, you’re assessment isn’t far off, but for a regular valley town… nah.
And it isn’t the fault of the townspeople that a psycho moved in. Suspected perp isn’t even a Tracyite. In fact, most of the folks who are key players in this case aren’t. The one family that I know are Tracyites are the Silvas, who own the dairy farm where Sandra’s body was found. Fourth gen dairy farmers, relatives of relatives (Portuguese immigrant dairy farmers, 4 gens ago, who own dairies throughout the valley). The young teenage boy that was tortured was not far from this area, and his torturer was not from Tracy (though I think her host family went to high school there).
As for women being monsters to THEIR OWN children, you have a point there. How many times do you hear of women murdering their kids? Stats say that more mothers than fathers murder children. Oftentimes it’s a psych issue, a mom with a known mental illness, left to care for a child or children, even when the husband and extended family (and sometimes medical practitioners) know that she is unstable. Andrea Yates, among many. BUTTTTT, that’s a defining point that you make, THEIR OWN children. It’s not to often that you hear of some woman kidnapping, raping, and murdering the neighbor child.
Anyway, MH seems guilty as all hell, from the evidence that has been presented thusfar, and from her demeanor. I didn’t see tears in the courtroom video…I saw her grimacing and cringing a whole lot. I did note the attorney asking for a med review. IMHO, they attorney did that as a prelude to utilizing MH’s mental illness issues as a defense. Betcha. I hope to God she is giving up whoever helped her out. If she was so irrational that she somehow “accidentally” killed Sandra, then flipped out, and decided to stage the “rape” to throw LE off her track, it doesn’t seem that she would have enough time to accoplish everything that occurred. Sandra is transported and murdered and she stages a rape and her body is transported again and disposed of in a dairy pond. I mean… she sure thinks quick on her feet, and acts cooly and swiftly in a crisis, if she was able to carry all of that off between the time that Sandra got to her door and the search began, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. I would be willing to lay odds that she is not the only person involved. I hope she gives up the other perps. I think that once her atty has a chance to really, thoroughly go over what her taking the entire rap means… which is the death penalty, I expect… once she considers that she will die, then she may give other suspect(s) up. I think that the grimacing and whincing in court is the beginning of her realization that she is going to take all of the punishment, and that she is hated…anathema…. acursed.
Y’all think she already spilled? Maybe. Maybe they’re working out a deal between now and the deferred arraignment.
When a molester is caught, they have done this maybe hundreds of times before. I cannot believe this is the first time Melissa has done this. It is only the first time she was caught. I am sure the police will find other victims that were not killed, but molested.
I can bet that Melissa was also molested herself at a young age. Molesters always say they were also abused as children…lousy excuse.
I feel so sad for Sandra’s family. That little girl looks so much like my daughter when she was that age.
You’re very welcome, Gina.
I wish it had been someone else rather than this woman.
I have been researching child abduction-murders for many years now and have done quite an indepth study of every case I could get my hands on, in order to better understand the dynamics involved.
And I was absolutely floored by the revelation that it was a woman and a sunday school teacher who let her play with her own 5 year old girl at that.
I suppose I have focused on men being the perpetrators 99 out of a hundred times that I was blinded to other possibilities.
I think most in law enforcement/FBI were too.
But I did note that a few posters here at BOC were actually swaying toward Ms. Huckaby having some involvement due to some inconsistencies in her statements and that she was the alleged owner of the case and also the very last to have seen Sandra alive.
All these things would most likely put anyone else on the police’ radar, so I assume they had their suspicions in the beginning as well.. Possibly that she was covering for someone else.
It’s really sad.
If this would have been a man, I know my anger would be near rage towards him, enough to volunteer to personally administer the drugs that would end his pitiful, evil life.
But I somehow can’t feel the same towards this woman.
I know this is a double-standard and quite biased.I realize there should be no difference if it’s a man or a woman as this little girl’s murder was absolutely the most irreprehensible act one could comit.
It’s just I somehow can’t bring forth the same feelings I can towards a man.
Does this make any sense to you?
Certainly, she deserves whatever the justice system feels she should receive. If it’s life in prison or death, that’s up to our system to decide.
Nothing will bring back poor little Sandra, who had her whole life a head of her and no doubt, one day she’d grow to be a loving, caring mother with children of her own.
But I feel that there is something not being reported here.
I don’t know what that is though.But even if I’m wrong about this, there is some tragedy involved when you look at Melissa Huckaby.
I see more than a monster behind those eyes.
Women just don’t up and turn into monsters like that over night.
Something happened to this woman along the way, she wasn’t born to rape and murder children.
I’m not defending her as I could never defend someone who has done such a terrible thing..I’m just trying to understand like most other people.
Chris
Chris, bolded by me, I concur 100%. I dont think what we are feeling is empathy, I think we are genuinely scratching our heads because intutition, research and training tells us that there has to be more here to explain a dynamic I personally have never seen.
B
Maybe Tracy isn’t all bad, but I can only judge from what I’ve read. I honestly thought the kidnapper was gonna be the man who had been caught kissing her. What were the odds that someone WORSE than him was in her life-and he wasn’t the ONLY suspect. Also, if some of the rumors prove to be true, what part did that church play in all of this?That’s just horrible. Also, I wasn’t referring to money or houses when I called the town trashy. I was referring to the people.
Also, what do you have to do, to be considered a Tracyite? She lived there, raised her kid{s?}there, taught Sunday school there, and probably raped and murdered there-and did it right under a lot of Tracy noses.I don’t think law enforcement would take any chances of being wrong about that. As poorly as I think of some of the residents, I have to hand it to the investigators for really staying on top of this. Actually, I used to live in Merced, had an aunt in Stockton, an aunt in Petaluma, etc…so I’m pretty familiar with the area, although I haven’t been there since the 80s.
Re: post #69 by Lizbeth – disagreeing with previous post: “Anyone notice how Lane Lawless skulks in the back, and walked seperately from Connie yesterday” -feeling that it was a “natural reaction” for ‘Pastor’ Lawless to distance himself from the group. Repectfully, I disagree with you completely. This would be a time when family/loved ones cling to one another, help support one another, prop one another up – both figuratively and literally, especially those espousing deep religious faith. His silence and distance speak volumes. IMHO, he & Grandma have something to hide.
Re: post #93 by MackiezMom: I am up in Sacramento, and agree with your assessment of Tracy as a city (I might reduce it just a tad to a 5 rather than a 6 or 7, though). I definitely agree with Cheryl in her statement that “others might be involved; at the most, a group of molesters and at the very least, enablers who looked the other way”; but condemning the entire town is a bit much. Re: MH spilling – she looks scared to death (as in ‘this all went so very wrong, now WTF am I going to do’) at the arraignment to me; hopefully she will be easy to crack now that reality is beginning to sink in.
I think it is just the damnest thing that all these horrific things started happening to the Baptists after they got serious about boycotting a certain loony right nation, don’t you?
Eric- can you expand?
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Cheryl,
You trying to attack me? The broad wasn’t born or raised in Tracy, she moved there as an adult. What did you have to do to be a whatever you are? I grew up in the East Bay… Castro Valley and the Hayward Hills. So I am from East Bay. I live in a different town, where my kids grew up. My kids are from this town… I am a transplant. What, you have some problem with me?
My point was that you were arrogant and innacurate in your dismissal of the town and townspeople as trash.
I don’t care that you hate the woman who is accused of murdering a child. As the kids say, I feel ‘ya. But the condemnation of a whole town, and the mischaracterization is arrogant. Dont’ start any shit with me… I have a very low tolerance level for people who victimize kids. I also have a low tolerance for people attacking me, and for people attacking innocent parents (and an entire community) who have to bury their child. You wanna call me out, personally, because I politely defended that community? What, you think an entire town knows what’s up with one whacko in one trailer? Therefore the town is trash? Ignorant statement.
The fact that you want to condemn the whole town, for what one person (or group of people) did is indicative of something larger. Are you so high and mighty, that you’re better than everyone in Tracy, or anywhere else? Ya think so? The sad truth is that children get killed by psychopaths all over the world, from affluent communities to the projects. Sometimes it is because they’re in a dangerous community, but most of the time it’s just being unfortunate. I don’t know about that trailer park, but Tracy at large is hardly considered a dangerous community. Don’t be foolish by thinking that it couldn’t happen in your or any other community.
At child loss support meetings, we (families who have lost children to death) do discuss offensive and harmful things said to (and about) families who have lost a children. Comments that exacerbate grief. One example is when people make comments trying to distance themselves from the loss of a child, as if it could never happen to them, and it’s contagious. We’ve had guest speakers who work in psych and grief counseling, and they explain that people do that in an attempt to deal with the reality that it COULD happen to them. Apparently their need to distance themselves is greater than their empathy and compassion for the child, and victim families. Child-loss is indiscriminate. It happens to rich people, poor people, white people, black people, brown people. You could have a maniac child killer living next door to you, and never know it. While I realize that it is not unnatural for people to attempt to distance themselves, because the thought of something happening to one’s own child is incomprehensible, it still upsets me. And it upsets every surviving parent I’ve spoken to…thousands. You should hear the litany of comments we endure. My junior high aged son died from an undiagnosed case of myocarditis (pediatrician gave him ace bandages for congestive heart failure a few days before his death, and said that he had sprained ankles), yet there were rumors that he died from drugs or alcohol. My little kid… who had no drugs or alcohol in his system, and who didn’t do drugs or drink. I forced one jerk to read his autopsy. Freakin’ sickos want to trash victims and victim families. Anything to make it so that it couldn’t happen to you. The irony is that a neighbor’s grandson did die from mixing alcohol and pills. Something that people sometimes do without thinking. Does that mean he deserved to die? A young kid? That people should go around stirring up rumors, and making judgemental comments about people who are already suffering really gets me. Hell, it could have been anyone’s kid who took a pill and drank some beers. Just as it could have been anyone’s kid who got snatched by that psychopath, on any street, anywhere.