Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Conway and the Anthonys Lose in Court-Autopsy Released
Orlando, FL– Appearing in Court today at 11am, Brad Conway, attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, argued unsuccessfully against the release of the autopsy report in the death of their granddaughter, 34 month old Caylee Marie Anthony.
As reported exclusively at blinkoncrime.com in the second installment of the Scamthony Series, I am at a loss as to how this motion made the docket in the first place, let alone how Judge Strickland felt compelled to stay it’s release.
Late afternoon yesterday, a Notice of Provisional In Camera review was filed by Conway, presumably to request Judge Strickland review the report in camera, and hopefully find it prejudicial and sealing it for that reason. This backdoor strategy is in lieu of a request from the only person with standing to autopsy be sealed, Casey Anthony.
Appearing in court first George Anthony made an empassioned plea to Stan Strickland that he seal the autopsy and give his family “some dignity.”
Conway argued that the release does not contain any new information and it’s release will only further damage Caysey criminal trial Linda Drubnick, Prosecuting Attorney in the criminal case against Casey Anthony, objected that he does not represent her and the Anthony’s have no standing.
Arguing for the Sentinel, Ms. Fugate asked George Anthony how many TV appearances he and his wife have made regarding this case, George answered he had no idea.
Strickland found the matter cut and dry based on the Public Information legislation, and denied Conways motion.
Enter Baez. I am not kidding. Once the motion was denied Baez requested a 48 hour stay for the defense to decide if they would file a motion to seal on Casey’s behalf. WTH you say? Nothing more than his puppetteering Conway to file this motion in the hopes it succeeded. God Forbid his Client look like she was bothered by the release and filing it herself.
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chica, and for Baez’s rant yesterday calling a reporter ‘Todd Black’, he was some messed up after the hearing failures, not just the Anthony’s, but his own attempts to get a hearing of his own. Linda Drurdick told the judge they’d spoken about this ‘weeks ago’. Duh!! So Baez got into a little hissyfit and went on the bully rant to the media.
My vote for very best piece of ‘Motion (without PIcture) Literature by Lawyer’ piece of the whole Casey Case (not just the Casey Casen Case), is the M&M Response to the Dominic Casey case for Casen on behalf of client Casey A.
Entertainment value in reading the motion by Casey and his lawyer (really is she??????!!!!, or is this really Todd Black in a high voice and new female character part???!!!!) followed by the response by Mitnik and is unprecedented and not to be missed!!
Well I have to laugh a tad, Ms. Dennis was not only Dom’s second choice but she missed her motion deadline on the duces tecum for Baez. AND BTW, if you HAVE PRIVILEGE, why the flaznock does the extender of “said Privilege” have to subpoena anything from you. Is this chic nuts? Does she think privilege has different definitions in criminal vs. civil court and theater?
B
Blink did u ever chat with the shrew and her neutered hubby george? Cause I believe he loved cayjee and I believe he suffers. I believe in the end he will betray them all and do what is right for caylee. He will free himself from those people and then hopefully he will go to some coda counseling. I believe I believe
To chica re post #133, I believe Casey said she had a flat tire also, not ran out of gas….
I mean my gawd caylee was the only female in his life who gave him some joy and some peace and a respite from the shrew and the monster.she was a comedian I heard him say so
I know he appears to be a cucold and a coward but I can feel his rage he will do right by caylee and no one else in the end.
FairestWitness, thanks for the comments, makes you think. I’ve been dealing with the narcissistic personality too, but ‘at arms (or should I say, lawyer’s arms) length. They did my elderly mother in, they are highly placed, lawyered to the hilt, and now they have been able to keep the stress and ‘unfinished’ (‘nothingness’) business going on for more years. The visciousness of the personalities of people who are medical professionals, to do someone in for control of whatever, is unbelievable, and that’s not living with them. They know that one can’t put anything to rest, even your own parent’s passing, until ‘they’ let go of their business so not only couldn’t the elderly parent have a day’s rest until they were done in, but it continues on and on and on. What people don’t know until it is too late, then paying never ends.
Do you think the prosecution/feds think the death was accidental too? It is also the opinion of Dr. G. that the death was a homicide. How would accidental jive with computer searches? Also, every once in awhile I come across statements that Casey seemed “different” for approx. a month before Caylee was murdered. If that’s true did she have premonitions about an impending accident? There seems to be so many things pointing to the death being premeditated I can’t find anything to hang onto in the accidental theory. Help!
Brenda in VA, #116 comment: “also a small possibility Casey thought she’d stage a drowning, but thought better of it realizing that wasn’t gonna work at all.
Regardless of what that girl was up to, Caylee’s body was definitely in that back yard at one point. But if she’d been buried there even one day, the Anthony’s dogs would have noticed asap and been lurking around the grave. Dogs don’t miss that stuff.”
It’ll be interesting to see the results from the soil samples, indeed. It’s plausible that Caylee may have been placed on the ground by/within the playhouse temporarily, but I think Casey brought the blanket w/her for Caylee with the idea she lay on it or have it cover her to sleep in the car alive, but ended up dead in the trunk w/it – used in same way as if alive. I haven’t heard whether anyone in that household’s been asked “when did you last see that blanket” or something along those lines…don’t recall the depos addressing it.
re: July 3rd impassioned MySpace message posted by Cindy: Blink thinks it was something that they found that was alarming to them about Caylee being in danger. However, I think it’s plausible that what was alarming Cindy was that, after having time to unwind & think about things (cuz her mind’s churning all the time), she realized that it’s the things still around but shouldn’t be that alarmed her. After seeing groceries disappear, & Casey basically had “moved out” (given the green truck incident) but not Caylee’s massive amount of clothes & diapers, backpacks, sunglasses, hats & shoes, the hair on the back of her neck was standing up & she started to panic…or perhaps Casey dropped something incriminating & Cindy finally found it. It’s clear Cindy was trying to manipulate Casey back with her message, using guilt…which I’m sure was part of that Sociopathic mother-daughter “dance”.
oh, forgot to comment briefly about the dogs ! Cindy & George seemed to be otherwise occupied on the 16th & 17th with mundane things, new job & new schedule, etc, they said they didn’t use the pool either day or night. Given that it’s Florida & hot, & their ‘masters’ were working, it’s possible that the dogs spent the greater part of the day inside the air conditioned house. If they were outside, they might be quite interested in one area to smell, if it were in the soil, & might dig. However, I have a pomeranian which is little like those yorkies..the degree of digging damage it can do is so minimal; & quite frankly, though I haven’t experience w/typical domesticated toy dogs’ interest in dead human body fluids so I don’t know what their reaction would be, I’m not sure that it’d be as pronounced as what some ppl think. It’s not like their territory is threatened by a stranger or strange animal, so barking wouldn’t ensue. And when I let my dog out in the backyard, I don’t watch him ‘go’ – I wait a certain amount of time & call him in, & I didn’t get the feeling from this family that they ‘dote’ on their dogs as if they’re ‘people’. I don’t know. And if she were laid in the playhouse (w/a door, from what I recall of the toy) on a paver, they couldn’t get in unless it were opened for them. Also, it’s quite possible that either Cindy or George walked them for exercise & to relieve them on both days/nights. I don’t recall them being questioned about their habits, just Casey’s & Caylee’s. This is only speculation on my part.
Kleat, I turned my back and walked away from it all about 7 years ago and I am so relieved. But it took me 43 years to do it and the death of my husband of 19 years to save myself. My advice to you is to walk away and never look back.
I feel very sorry for the Anthonys because I think they were trying to live decent, productive lives before this happened. Cindy as an RN, George was a former cop and small business owner of some kind, I think. They had Casey and her child living in their home, trying to take of them and themselves.
Everyone keeps saying Cindy forced Casey to have and keep Caylee, but I think it’s unfair as hell. It was Casey’s decision, Cindy couldn’t force her to do it. Yes, Cindy has some of her own problems, but I do believe the woman knows how to love and care for others. She’s a contributing member of society.
Casey, on the other hand, is a piece of crap who never did anything for anyone. A total user and abuser. I hope we learn the truth about what happened to Caylee and that Casey is punished for it.
Here is how I imagine it will go down.just before george”s name is called to the stand he will release cindy.s sweaty hand lean in and whisper in her ear “hey tell you what I will release your “short hairs and you hand me my “bawlls” back on the count of 3 ready.one..two.
I just re-read Cindy’s interview Aug 4 ’08:
re: July 3rd:
-Cindy is off work that week.
-Casey is telling her by phone & mostly text that Caylee is with “Zanny’s roommate Jennifer”, at UNIVERSAL during the day while Casey works there.
-Cindy is frustrated because she hasn’t seen Caylee in 2 weeks and she is off work so she could have had Caylee with her that week.
-July 3rd, a Thursday, CINDY GOES TO UNIVERSAL to look for Caylee!!! Doesn’t find her of course.
-later that day, (in Cindy’s recount) – Casey then tells Cindy that ACTUALLY the real truth is that Casey and Caylee are really in Jacksonville, staying with “Jeff Hopkins”, with whom they are making plans to live as a family when they return to Orlando!!!!
(Now, when Cindy got to Universal on the 3rd – wouldn’t she have found out right then that Casey wasn’t working there, etc? I try to picture her walking around the place, asking people where Casey/Caylee/Jennifer are, as if people there should know what she is talking about. And then to be told by Casey later that day a completely new scenario, it seems all that would have been enough to have her head spinning by that night– )
http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/george-and-cindy-anthony-speak-with-greta-transcript/
Just trolling through this again. Cindy tells Greta (in above interviews)that the tool shed is locked because Casy wasn’t able to do some of the things she was able to do last year. What is this supposed to mean?
Cindy spins a response to Greta’s question that Casey offers that Caylee is ‘close’ asking Cindy what she interprets that to mean. Cindy says among spin, “in the neighborhood.”
I think these interviews were early August. Wow. Very interesting to see them again in hindsight.
George tells the tale of seeing them off to work/babysitter, and the 24th Casey popped in to get a change of clothes, brought up the tool shed break-in and that George sees the gas cans inside of the trunk. Cindy has her hand on his leg offering support through this difficult part of the story.–and chimes in that bingo, the gas cans were in the trunk. He tells it as though he actually saw inside of that trunk and if he was close enough to it, why no oder? Did it reek of spilled gas and chlorophorm? Surely, Mr Neat car caretaker would be upset by a spillage like that in the vehicle. No mention of it at all.
I was really looking for the interview and video that Cindy was discussing the hits on the cadaver dogs when she said the yard recently had work done. Also, very early interview where George says that during the missing 31 days, he and Cindy discussed scenarios involving the pool and Caylee/Casey, wondering what Casey must have done. I thought it was another Greta interview. Is anybody onto any of this? Where can I find these?
(I also tried the google earth method of seeing the yard–google map had been updated in Dec 08. no help there.)
Onto digging up timelines and who was where when aroung July 3.Something did spur that myspace message from Cindy.
I actually do have a life…..I am just really bothered by the deceptions- for what?! to save who?!
Children are not disposable. Justice, please.
And Dont forget Casey’s antics that weekend and on 7/7 Her End of Days…
B
Actually I disagree. I think Caylee was in the trunk the night of the 16th and 17th, and placed in the backyard on the 18th and buried under the playhouse.
B
nope, that’s ok I believe she moved her on the 23rd.
B
HEY BLINK..SO, YOU BELIEVE THAT CAYLEE’S BODY WAS BURIED UNDER THE PLAYHOUSE FROM THE 18TH UNTIL THE 23D?….
DO YOU HAVE DOGS? THE ANTHOHY’S HAVE 2 (OR MORE) YAPPY DOGS…AND , THE ANTHONY’S SPENT ALOT OF TIME IN THEIR BACKYARD…I KNOW FROM HAVING DOGS..WHEN A DOG PICKS UP A SCENT OF SOMETHING DEAD THEY WILL DIG IT UP ( EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT CADAEVER DOGS)….
THE ANTHONY’S WOULD HAVE NOTICED THEIR OWN DOGS GOING MENTAL (FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK) , TRYING TO DIG UP A DEAD BODY, EVERY TIME THEY WERE LET OUT…BELEIVE ME , I HAD DOGS AND THAT IS WHAT THEY DO.. AND, EVEN DOGS CAN SMELL BEYOND THE “NON-AIR TIGHT GARBAGE BAGS” THAT CASEY USED..SO , HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
THANKS J
Re: “and if things go wrong, heck, they will have their control, the money coming in, and Casey will be where they want her anyway, out of their lives.”
Casey is EXACTLY where they’ve wanted her to be for a very long time – in jail (the reason Cindy called 911 to begin with); Casey has done everything she can (except get a ‘regular’ job & keep it) including porn shots & murder, to get the heck away from them but in such a way that she ‘sticks it to them’. They have control over their everyday lives like they wanted..they seek to control their daughter’s image thru the media & the courts’ release of evidence. The only thing they desperately need is for their granddaughter to somehow get disassociated w/their daughter, in order to ‘revise history’ & keep their foundation money flowing in, to make a living off ‘missing children’.
bottomline said: “When questioned by bro about not bringing Caylee around don’t you remember her remark? (because I am/can be a spiteful b****!)” … I think she was being extremely sarcastic & throwing it back in their faces via Lee, & it was something her mother had called her many times before. But the difference this time was she’d cut the ties & no longer had use for her mother & father. (Just as they’d been relieved she was gone.) It wasn’t that she herself thinks she’s anything bad, or a bi***.
Her basic, bottomless rage (as a sociopath) and her skewed perception of reality & deep-seated belief that she’s perfect & can manipulate every situation her way is the reason she’s incapable of taking a plea. She knows her parents are manipulating things their way & probably hates them for it. I don’t think they “get” her at all…Shirley Plesea is so refreshing. How she spawned someone like Cindy I’ll never know.
So glad others noticed the way Georgie pulled his hand away when Cindy tried to hold it for the umptenth time during the court hearing Friday. Also how he jumped up and headed out the door without telling Cindy he was leaving … Loved it !!!!! I bet poor Georgie heard about this when they got home .( Wouldn’t you just love to have been there !..You could tell she was surprised to see he had ran out and she grabs her stuff and tries to catch up with him …. Made my day !!!! So glad the camera was on them at that point !!
Just discovered this site …. Enjoyed it ! . I also have always thought Caylee was buried in the backyard first and under the playhouse and the Anthony’s found something the day they did all that yard and paver work…
Yes I also felt that Georgie was putting on quite a show for the judge’s benefit …I do think he cared about Caylee but he seemed to be laying it on pretty thick there towards the end .. And the part about this ” being all for Caylee today” was also for the public’s benefit since we all have rightfully defended Caylee and got on the Anthony’s case about not standing up for Caylee..
Patricia I think george really suffers when he is confronted with the truth of caylee’s demise.that autopsy report detailing the condition of her remains wonked him where it hurts.he is pizzed off who isn’t?
NO.
Personally I do not believe Caylee was ever chloroformed. Ever
B
HEY BLINK…AMY SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT SHE WAS AMAZED THAT WHEN CASEY DRAGGED CAYLEE TO PARTIES THAT EVERYONE WAS AMAZED THAT CAYLEE ” JUST SLEPT THROUGH THE NIGHT”….A 3 YEAR OLD DOES NOT JUST SLEEP THROUGH PARTIES, IN A SMALL DUMPY HOUSE ( PAPER THIN WALLS), BLASTING MUSIC, AND THE SHRILL ECHO OF 20 YEAR OLDS TALKING OVER LOUD MUSIC.?!…THERE IS NO WAY THAT A CHILD COULD JUST NATURALY SLEEP THROUGH THE NIGHT ( WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF SEDATION)…OBVIOUSLY CASEY HAD RESEARCHED CHLOROFORM AND LEARNED THAT CHLOROFORM WAS USED AS A SEDATIVE–TO SEDATE….SO, HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN CAYLEE’S UN-NATURALL DEEP-COMA-LIKE SLEEP IN THOSE INSTANCES?
1) Chlorofrom levels are from Casey dumping the chloroform into the trunk to attempt to mask the smell, as she did the petral. Did you note te gas based redings from that trunk? Only possible from spilling gas in the trunk directly, imo.
HEY BLINK..CHLOROFORM DOES NOT HAVE A STRONG “MASKING ODOR” ( COMPARED TO GASOLINE)…SINCE CHLOROFORM IS MADE OF ACETONE IT EVAPORATES AND IS ALMOST ODORLESS..I JUST DON’T SEE THE REASONING BEHIND THIS THEORY AS TO WHY CASEY WOULD GO TO ALL THE TROUBLE OF MAKING “HOME MADE CHLOROFORM” WHEN SHE COULD USE GAS (OR ANY OTHER OVER THE COUNTER CLEANING PRODUCTS)..?
Casey and Ricardo’s interest in chloroform was sexual.
CASEY ONLY BEGAN RESERACHING CHLOROFORM IN MARCH(?) AND SHE AND RICARDO BROKE UP SHORTLY THEREAFTER….WHAT DO YOU BASE YOUR THERORY ON THAT THE CHLOROFORM WAS A SEXUAL AID BETWEEN CASEY AND RICARDO? .. I KNOW RICARDO HAD THE ” WIN HER OVER WITH CHLOROFORM ” ON HIS COMPUTER AS A ” BAD JOKE”…IE .” IF YOU CLOROFORM YOUR DATE, SHE WILL BE SO PASSED OUT THAT YOU CAN HAVE YOUR WAY AND DATE RAPE HER”?!. ( PARAPHRASED)…
YOU STATE THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT CASEY AND RICARDO’S “INTEREST IN CHLOROFORM WAS SEXUAL”…FYI : TWO PEOPLE GETTING HIGH ON CLOROFORM, WOULD BE PASSED OUT, IN A COMA-LIKE STATE; THEY WOULD NOT BE SEXING IT UP…CHLOROFORM IS NOT AN APHRODISIAC…SO, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT CASEY WAS ONLY RESEARCHING ” CHLOROFORM” FOR THE SAKE OF CASEY’S AND RICARDO’S LOVE LIFE ( RATHER THAN USING IT FOR WHAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR–TO SEDATE)?? I JUST DON’T SEE THE REASONING..
There was no evidence of it in Caylee’s hair either.
RE : NO EVIDENCE OF CHLOROFORM IN CAYLEES HAIR…..I HAVE READ NUMEROUSE REPORTS AND HAVE SEEN CORORNERS COMMENT THAT IT WOULD BE VERY UNLIKELY THAT CHLOROFORM WOULD HAVE REMAINED IN CAYLEE’ HAIR AFTER ALL THIS TIME AND BECAUSE IT EVAPORATES QUICKLY…DO YOU BASE YOUR OPINION THAT CAYLEE WAS NEVER CHLOROFORMED BY CASEY BECAUSE OF THE ABSENCE OF CHLOROFORM FOUND IN HER HAIR…
NORMALLY,I CAN REALLY TRACK ON YOUR THEORIES BUT THESE OBSERVATIONS SEEMED, TO ME, OFF BASE AND REQUIRED FURTHER CLARIFICATION…
THANKS J
ros; here is one of the Greta interviews I think you want;
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=011008&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2963763&referralPlaylistId=playlist
Blink, it takes a road map to figure out who had privilege with Dom Casey, when, overlapping who, and who else when. Baez, Casey without Baez, Cindy and George without Baez or Casey but overlapping same time as Casey, and nothing in writing!! And then the story changes…
Actually, it will come down to contracts, Dom started working for Casey on Sept 12, and work product in the civil case would be extrapalated in the deposition. He can’t just say.. I have no info that’s usable once he is properly served. I do think he is going to be very limited in what he says in the depo, but he will be required to give one and certify questions like any other witness. Another thing, the issue of him getting paid or not getting paid by someone is absolutley going to come into play. The verbiage of that response tells me clearly that my BF Morgan is adding the As’ to this suit as he should.
B
I wonder what Cindy really learned from the Universal security booth attendant about ‘Employee Casey’ ? Can anyone see Cindy just looking in from the parking lot to see if she could spot Caylee at one of the Character Break-fast-ses? Oh yeah, there’s the phone call, but why wouldn’t Cindy make inquiries about Casey’s job while she was there, like where her office is, when she’s coming back into work.
I hang around this site and read lots because this case interests me so much, but I dont comment very often. However tonight in one of the messages someone mentioned caylee`s shoes and I had never realized nowhere that I can remember are finding any of her shoes mentioned. George mentioned her having her white tennis shoes on the day she left on the 16th. they werent found in casey`a car.
The cadaver dogs bother me cause cindy states they called in a second cadaver dog , cause this one had been wrong sometimes or often, i cant remember her exact words but was when she was showing the house and backyard to Greta. And that the second cadaver dog did not hit on the same places. If I have this right then the whole cadaver thing means nothing, right ???
also I find it hard to believe that george and cindy started the cover up from the start. They both had thoughts that casey had a part in caylees death or disapperance that she wasnt telling truthfully and i feel they talked pretty much honestly at the start.
But something convinced them to believe the nanny threw her to the ground story and then they started all the lies. Interesting too that George started a book that he wrote everything he says to police/FBI so he would remember what he had said, but still he has made some conflicting statements. George was much less likely to believe casey until cindy made him start acting like he believed in his daughter… possibly she would throw him out if he didnt start supporting casey I think cindy was the real enabler for casey being able to tell any lie or steal anything because she never seemed to be able to figure out just how much a diabolical liar her daughter is and still seems like she cant. George was seeing a more real idea of casey but cindy wears the pants and he couldnt do much except try to stay out it so he didnt have to fight cindy. He really is a man with no balls !!
I sure hope we all get to learn the real truth on a lot of this someday. I love coming and reading the ideas here about theories on all this stuff and hope you dont mind a newcomer putting out some ideas.
blink, End of Days, 7/7? Are you referring to the Diary that was discovered. I thought that was disputed because of the ’03 date marked at the top. Do you think that had been tampered with?
No, her myspace page with the song.
(imo)i think the autopsy is clearly saying clearly murder ,the mandible never dropped because the dt held it in is its original position,if anyone out there can reposition something without the experts telling i’ve got some broken china needs fixin.besides ya know all the pictures of skulls the mouth is always wide open ,cuz once it drops and rigor mortis, it dont close back up, i could be wrong ,am studying up on it and it seems to be a timing thing, decomp has to start for the mucles proteins ,and rigor mortis to disappear to allow the dead jaw to be taped closed.(imo)
I take no pleasure witnessing the machinations and pain of the Anthonys. They’ve been victimized in the most cruel way I can think of … by their own daughter. No, they have not made good choices or decisions since this began. No, they did not make good decisions before this happened either. But, they are not and were not monsters. The emotional wreckage we all see as Cindy & George Anthony are tragic human beings. I pity them. I wish I could help them to grieve in a healthy manner. I wish I could help them understand that seeking justice for their murdered granddaughter is their only path to healing. But they are beyond our grasp, they are destroyed. It is so pathetic to witness. I pray that God will help them, for only He can save them now.
FairestWitness,
My mother-in-law is a sociopathic bitch from hell. Had I understood the effect her influence had on my husband, although I love him and will not leave him, I’d never have married him. I finally get it why he has the emotional issues he does and am no longer angry when he acts strangly because it’s due to a manipulative evil mother!!!
This woman refused to go to our wedding 25 yrs ago because “she didn’t want to see her son make the biggest mistake of his life”. Interesting…she was on marriage #5!!!!! yup, one of those “Christians” who is so sure she’ll be on the right hand of Christ next to God, but curses like a sailor, judges EVERYONE lesser than she, lived with a young man only 4 yrs older than her son for a time (going to church all along) and her current hubby is only 5 yrs older than her son/my husband.
My sister-in-law is WORSE than her mom, and I feel this is what happened to Casey. When my mother in law dies, I will dance in the streets. She to this day calls and manipulates my husband hit is UNable to say no to her. I pray to God he and I have many years once she’s gone….that way we can have some normalcy at some point in life.
Those without a mother in law like this do not understand. Every holiday, birthday, special event…if she’s not center of attention…she makes DAMN sure she causes a problem and becomes the center of attention…then starts the little crying act for sympathy. She gets none from me. She hates me to this day and I am glad. Can you tell the damage such a person has on others? I only see her about 2 or 3 times a year and the effects on my family ANY time she is around lasts for at least 2 wks afterward. I could go on and on
Very good comment about the fact there was not a mention of any shoes being found and yet it has been said that George ( if he is correct and also telling the truth ) said she was wearing shoes when she left….. Any feeling regarding the lack of shoes, Blink? Happy Father’s Day to all the dads out there…Also love the pic the video is set to on this site with Cindy’s butt up in the ear.. Yep, that is her , she just can’t sit there , she has to take control somehow and tell her Lawyer how to do his job and what to say….
blink here is a link screaming mummies http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/screaming_mummy (as little as ten minutes for rigor mortis to set in)(starts with facial muscles)(18 to 36 hours to disappear)
thats kinda morose for sunday morning sorry you can delete
is what it is Susan, thanks for posting
B
Blink…
May I please ask a question ? I am wondering why no mention of the heart shaped sticker residue on the tape was mentioned in the autopsy report ? Also why no shoes at the site also? thanks in advance .
Because the tape was sent to the FBI lab, it was not processed here.
Not being flip, but there were no shoes mentioned because she was not wearing any
B
Brenda, I am so very sorry for the misery in your life. Your mother in law sounds just like my stepmother. She ruined every holiday and special occasion, too. I know exactly what you mean. Cut the bitch off with another word.
I don’t see Cindy Anthony as the cause of Casey’s problems. Cindy’s crazy behavior, bad judgment & dumb decisions are defensive, due to her inability to cope with Casey’s sociopathic narcissism. Sociopaths & narcissists don’t love anyone. I do believe Cindy loved Caylee and I think she loves her husband. I think she cares about her daughter, as well. She’s just lost. And she’s enraged at everything and everybody. Who can blame her? I would be, too.
Thought of something out of the blue. Anyone else remember that the same night George last say Caylee alive Casey is known to have gone to the movie store with the current beau and rent that movie that had the scene of the decaying body in the trunk of the car? Caylee was already at that point no where to be found. My money is on the fact she killed Caylee after leaving her parents’ home that day and left the body in the trunk until the day she backed into the driveway.
As for the shoes…could THAT be what Cindy found in the backyard on July 3rd? As you know from my previous posts, my theory is Casey returned to the house for the bags and blanket, etc. for the dumping/burial of her daughter’s remains. NO way it was an accident. As for the pool and ladder, still wondering if only to wash up her hands, or possible try and wash the smell of decay from Casey’s body? Probably way too late for the forensics to have detected any chlorine on the blanket if that is so, but another fact I’ll have to wait and find out!
As for the shovel, other than buring her daughter, I had theorized she used it to pick up the body at first, but then learned there was no decomposition evidence on it unless I”m not remembering correctly. Anyone know anything else about the shovel? The neighbor did state it hadn’t been used since Casey borrowed it.
I read the m&m depo of g&c and found it faconating those guys rock and it cleared up many things for me. It is clear now that kc was the caregiver who spent nost of her time with caylee. This is why g&c don’t seem to flinch that she was unemployed and they probably consented. It also shows that kc had the opportunity to be caylees killer rather than some other dude? Good job I was bothered by the idea that the grandparents could be so uncurious about a stranger who spent so much time with caylee and now I know why that is.
I will never be able to be convinced that C & G did not ask Casey what happened when she was out on bail and in their home. I do believe JB told them all not to discuss the case. C & G’s hardheadedness and attitude of doing what they want to , whenever they feel like it tells me they did ask and get to the bottom of it. Any family unit would have sat down and hashed it through until the answers were known. Casey’s little flare ups and temper would not have stopped the conversaion until everything was in the open. I would have excused JB from my home and, as a family, would have discussed it until there were no more questions.
I also believe the report that George attacked her upon her return home. I do remember him storming from the home almost imediately after and Lee going to retrieve him. They knew, and they knew early.
I can tell you as a point of fact that Ohio Jim pulled George off of Casey. (Thus why I held out for him)
Remember this quote, you will hear it again “Stop being an effing Cop and Start being my Dad.”
George bought that gun the second he heard Caseys bond was going to be revoked, had there not been a waiting period, who knows what would have happened.
B
Blink, back to the D. Casey Casey of Considerable Contracts, thanks for the explanation. I’d love to see the Linda lawyer handled by the M&M crew when she objects on the basis of G&C and marital privilege (I see that one coming out of her mouth, as she continues to assert priv on behalf of her client on behalf of his clients).
Adding G&C to the suit has only one down-side, and that’s the ‘uninformed public’ opinion of the ‘marketing lawyers going after poor grey-haired grandparents. Cindy will be on an M&M rant every chance she creates. I doubt they will ever get Cindy into that courtroom to hear a judge order her to answer questions and George is stuck to her back with Crazy Glue.
Oh and sorry about my typos and mispells I’m on my blackberry today
Not wearing shoes, George did not mention that the baby was barefoot as she left the house at just before 1pm-during-foodtv show.
so after the autopsy her behavior caylee discarded like yesterday’s trahs how many still think this was a complete accident???? cuase you know in florida if it’s provena accidental= all charges dropped she goes free…how in any way does that honor Caylee!?!?
I dont know who that was to, but I did not see anyone say that. Drives me batty when someone does not take the time to read all the work.
B
One more point about the M&M depos, I promise, only one. The order of depositions as planned by M&M is in disarray by the incomplete depos, depos pending clarification by judge, and of course, by new info. This Anthony situation has to be resolved by the judge first, I’d think, because there are objections of marital privilege to be clarified and because they hold the cards in this whole case, next to Casey Marie. There’s a good chance that Dom Casey will have info that contradicts what is in other people’s depos. It’s clear why Cindy put the touchy-feelie moves on her tall PI as caught on the Ritz security cameras, so it went beyond contract loyalty to a more personal loyalty.
isn’t it tragic that these people can’t just honestly state for the record that kc was a stay at home mom and they were ok with that because of caylees murder and kc lies about zg?.
“but there were no shoes mentioned because she was not wearing any”….this to me in a subtle way would support the drowning theory, as I can’t imagine why shoes would be removed before disposing of the body if she were wearing them. And think they would’ve been found in the bag, or closeby had they been present. I haven’t been to FL many times, but in the summer in a hot climate w/ alot of concrete, you don’t go barefoot much, unless you want burned feet.
I find it interesting as these small details come out. Blink, I’m figuring there must be reasons you are adamant against the cloroform theory. You know so much more information about this case than most of us “guessers”. I just figured if Casey was introduced to the cloroform with Ricardo, she might have been curious to expand it’s “uses” in the short time afterwards. And the emphasis on Tony L., not wanting kids, spurred me also. I’d also thought it could’ve been the first, or among the first few times she might have tried it, and it totally went awry. Don’t know, keeping an open mind as I read and listen.
Also get what you mean about drilling it down, it’s splitting hairs, but it still bothers me to know I guess. It would appear bottom line she did suffocate ie. die from lack of oxygen, whether by drowning or other means.
Also seems clear Casey was evading and avoiding like crazy, and when Lee “laid it all out” when the cops were on the way, she had to pull something out of her ass to tell them. The way that story just “popped out” seemed so conived and “on the fly” to me. “Someone who had hit a wall” as it’s been said, “made a left turn and just kept going”. For whatever she had “pre-thought” as an excuse, she was winging it way out there at that momemt. And the Anthony’s knew it as well.
Curiously awaiting to hear what you think it is the Anthony’s found July 3rd too!
In response to an earlier post regarding Jesse Grund’s testimony, I went back yesterday and was reading/listening to some released audio transcripts. I had never listened to RICHARD Grund’s audio because I figured he was not one of the major players. But his audio testimony the day before his son came is was very interesting. Including the statement that Casey had told him a story about sharing a nanny with an old friend – and this was back in 2006 when Caylee was a little baby and Jesse was watching her for Casey when Casey went to “work”.
you can find it on the cfnews.com website. He also had some interesting insights into cindy and George.
Blink-
To add my two cents in this murdering sociopath’s scheme.
I don’t think there was anything accidental about the murder of
Caylee Anthony. IMO Casey was so jealous of the attention that Caylee received from G & C that she was going to get rid on the one thing that got in the way of her being the center of her parents world.
The thought of killing this child had probably crossed her mind many times and argument that she and Cindy had was the straw that broke the camels back, I truly think that Casey decided to get back at Cindy by taking away the one thing that would hurt her the most and stood in the way of Casey being Mommy and Daddy’s little girl.
I still believe that Casey used chloroform as her murder tool of choice. She then taped Caylee up in a complete rage, things were probably not going as she expected and she needed to get it done and over with.
As far as deposing of the body. Like I said before, things were probably not going as she planned (hard soil,???) We all know that is one thing to go over things in your mind and another to actually do them. She was stuck with the body and didn’t know what to do with it.
No doubt that this girl is going to rot in ****!
Bizaar it it may sound; Right now she is surrounded by male cops and male attorney’s, probably very comfortable being at the center of attention.
G&c would make the worst poker players ever all the tells they show. Even monster kc must be aghast?
Also, am aware of the “air samples” from the trunk, but have they ever yet released the analysis/results of the stains from the trunk carpet itself?
re: 7/3/08 myspace post. those last 2 lines in the post are revealing in that SIN didn’t think Caylee was w/Snotmom – so where did she think she was, & why not call 911 at that point?
It’s plausible that Cindy was building the kidnapping alibi, along w/Snotmom KC. It’s also plausible that it was a sign to KC that she’d ‘won’ in their sadistic soc. mom-daughter power dance, yet Cindy ‘dug’ it into her daughter that she wasn’t a ‘good mom’ in that last line in her myspace post. Cindy had that week off to get concrete work done, & to watch Caylee – both of which you know you plan ahead when scheduling vacation at work….w/their stretched finances, ya know SIN talked about this home improvement well in advance. KC knew. She knew the heat would be on her when she didn’t produce Caylee for her mom to babysit – the woman took time off specifically expecting to entertain Caylee.
What supports a conspiracy-type thing w/the Anthonys is that shed. they’d kept KC out of it for 1 yr w/a keyed lock. PROBABLY CUZ SHE’D USED UP THEIR GAS PLENTY OF TIMES B4. KC knew how far that amount of gas would get her in her car. Anthonys knew she was coming in & out for groceries, her clothes. (I’ll bet they inventoried their stuff on a regular basis, knowing what KC was capable of.) So if they see a broken lock, w/gas cans gone, ya know they suspect-to-the-point-of-knowing 4 sure it was KC — & who reports gas cans missing ?? Yet they don’t tell LE: HEY, it’s our daughter who lives here who we suspect–cuz if she lives there & drives their car, it isn’t larceny cuz there’s precedent. They were building a case for “kidnapping”.
But that shed break-in is important for another reason – if the pool chlorine product was in the shed for safety, it’s an ingredient for chloroform & strengthens the case for premeditation. (although premeditation can be split second as well). Same w/the report about the ladder & the pool – why mention it?? simple red herring? maybe, but w/the cadaver dog hit nearby @ the playhouse, & the taped nose & mouth, & matting of hair, it sure plays into either fingering KC, or an attempt to ‘get them out of Dodge’…even if they were trying to frame Amy & Jesse, it backfired into their laps.
Thx FairWitness, glad you are now free. Only a matter of time before my husband (who doesn’t even understand he’s her “slave”) and I are free. She’s already had open heart surgery and has high cholesteral and high blood pressure, but eats NOTHING healthy because God is going to “cure her”. Yeah, right..that’s like saying I”m going to have sex but God isn’t going to let me get pregnant. Or..I’m going to lie but God knows it’s for a good reason. Give me a break. Her diet consists of fried food, donuts and deserts. Only a matter of time :>)
So, B, what are your real thoughts on this? You know me, I need a timelime….. I don’t think Casey killed her, I think she is covering for George. She drowned in the pool. JMHO….. George and Casyee are so scared of Momma that they have made this whole web of lies. Please, B, what do you think, point by point.
Why would kc lie to protect her dad? She can’t see past her own nose for crizzake.sorry blink go ahead and speak for yourself this statement is imo