Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Caylees Autopsy Revelations Part I
Orlando, FL– Under heavy objection last Friday afternoon, Judge Stan Strickland denied the motion on behalf of George and Cindy Anthony to seal Caylee Marie Anthonys autopsy until their daughter Caseys capital murder trial in their granddaughters death. Late Friday afternoon, the Findings of Dr. Jan Garavaglia, Chief Medical Examiner of Orange County were released. In Part I, we explore a few of the notable findings, In Development for Part II, Blinkoncrime will be is creating an interactive 3D Model, incorporating the evidence recovery field, bone disbursement pattern, and anatomical example of the duct tape placement.
The Laundry Bag
Although the report contains a significant amount of anthropologic and forensic data, it does not contain photos or X-Rays, pursuant to the Earnhardt exclusion under Florida Law. Blinkoncrime.com will attempt to offer some observations and in some cases, correct some erroneous information that is being reported in the msm. For starters, the laundry bag picture being circulated, it is incorrect, the image to the left is the correct bag, note the dimensions are exact. The top of this bag does not cinch.
The Duct Tape
I have seen rampant speculation on the duct tape beginning around 15 minutes following the release of the report. 
There are many who believe that Casey Anthony killed her child by wrapping her nose and mouth with duct tape. Allow me to point out the report actually reflects the antithesis of this theory. First, there IS NO TAPE ON THE POSTERIOR of her skull. The only posterior placement of the tape mentioned is still located on the mandible, or face. The tape, which was actually small strips of grey cloth-based, delaminating tape is applied on top of itself, not really feasible with a live toddler. Given the findings that Caylee’s mandible stayed in almost true anatomical position, although slightly posterior and that the hair that was attached to the tape extended from the back of her head and over her head and face, it is likely Caylee was laying on her back when the tape was applied. Henkel makes 2 kinds of duct tape, one is more Industrial grade of adhesive “hot set” over cloth designed for waterproof and outdoor projects. It has not yet been disclosed which formulation was used.
The O Sign
A contributing poster at blinkoncrime gave me something to think about that had not occurred to me. I am on record stating I do believe that Casey Anthony murdered her daughter, and that she will end up pointing the finger at one or both of her parents as a defense strategy.
However, the duct tape never really fit for me. I have always believed it to be a post mortem tactic to stage a kidnapping. I do believe I may have been wrong. Very well known to medical and critical care professionals, there is something called an O effect; occurring at very near death, or shortly following death and before rigormortis sets in.
Some medical people refer to it when the person is very near death or has just died–the jaw drops open. Nothing left to hold the mandible shut. In morgue kits there is a strap that is applied around the jaw to gently close it before rigor sets in. This “O” sign can be very pronounced and unsettling to see first hand. Casey probably wasn’t aware of this and was really spooked by this silent scream and used the duct tape then put a heart sticker on it as a ________
This makes sense to me. The tape is applied in small strips across the nose and mouth areas, catching her hair in the face over the Coronal plane region. One interpretation that may be drawn is that Caylee was lying on her back, upon seeing what Casey had done to her child as evidenced by the relaxed mandible; she attempted to “fix her”. As if covering up the evidence of death on her baby would change things, complete with a heart sticker. No sooner did I arrive at this conclusion on Saturday, did I see Dr.Michael Baden appear on Geraldo Live on Sunday evening bringing up the mortuary kit issue. I am not saying this idea originated here, not that it would be the first time, but it at least tells me there is corroboration within the forensic Medical community as to the premise. The FBI report on the duct tape has not been released. One thing is certain, what I have been stating all along about Casey’s prints being on the duct tape seems foreboding. With multiple strips of tape, chances are there are several. The defense has had this report for months, is this why Casey Anthony retained Todd Macaluso?
Swim Diaper?
There are several remnants recovered that are described as a diaper or pull ip item. However, there are a few that appear to be strictly synthetic. When I read the report, my immediate reaction based on some of the coloring was that it was a “swimmie”, or disposable swim diaper. After mapping out the dimensions and a closer look, I believe it is actually referring to remnants of both a pull up, a reusable swim diaper, or swim floation/assistance device or both, as pictured here:
Paper Towels
Simply stated there is decomposition fluid on paper towels in the plastic garbage bag found in her trunk that came from Tony Lazzarros apartment.
In my opinion, Casey ripped the bag Caylees remains were in when she moved her body into or out of the trunk to her final resting place in the woods off Suburban. The stain in the trunk, emitting the ungodly stench, was the target of the paper towels after Casey returned to TonE’s apartment. She brought the paper towels and garbage bag out with her in an attempt to clean it up and realized almost immediately it was an excerise in futility. Immediately following are her comments to Amy about George Anthony borrowing her car, and the infamous squirrel stowaway story.
Her Clothes
In contrast to only a stitching remnant with a manufactures tag left of her shirt, Caylees shorts were found nearly 2 ft ft away from the laundry bag, in relatively good condition. Based on the reports findings of trunk and femural animal activity and the corresponding recovery area, I am of the opinion that it is not possible that Caylee was wearing those shorts when she was dumped in the woods. Frankly, given the fact that the actual color stripe pattern was discernable versus the condition of the other items, I am suspect Casey was in those woods more than once. How do you get only the collar of a shirt remaining and her shorts completely intact with no noted damage? Lastly, Caylees shoes if she were wearing any, were not recovered.
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blink, your right re:comment #422 i re read report a few times and too much of a overall general narrative to make anything of anyway.but i do strongly dislike that the interviewer accepts that she was living with her boyfriend without asking what custodial arrangements or such were made for caylee if she wasnt living with her?wtf?
It seems to me that some give Casey way too much credit for thinking things thru. Remember with her being pregnant with Caylee, and she said she wasnt pregnant and said “I would have had to have had sex to be pregnant” , she was 7 months pregnant and there was no way that any lie was gonna get her out of that. But with no thought to what do I do in 2 more months when I have the baby, she lies
Same thing with taking the detectives to her “office”, she led them all the way there before she admitted to the lie.
Seems to me she never thinks ahead with her lies. So to me some big elaborate plan ahead of time just isnt likely to be true. She lies and then takes the next step only when she is faced with what is next.
Same goes for getting moms house for her and amy to live in, another lie that she doesnt stop to think well what happens when amy never gets to move in.
Also whether she is sociopath, or narcisstic, or whatever, she tells a lie and then believes it herself, so it doesnt matter if the lie doesnt sound reasonble to millions, it makes perfect sense to her
I dont believe that she was ever a prostitute, she was all about finding love and moving out of her parents, she was never about supporting herself and any claims of saving money to buy a house is just another story. I would never believe she had $1400 in the bank unless I saw a bank statement saying that. Her retainer cheque to Baez probably bounced just like all her other cheques. I also think that george and cindy have always tried to believe her lies and they do believe until they are faced with it in black and white, that it is really just another lie. George has his moments of not believing but I think Cindy always manages to convince him to give her the benefit of doubt until proven. If they really believed that she lied just for the sake of lying, I think they would have been able to boot her out of the house, and do the “tough love” approach, which would have benefitted Casey much more than their allowing her to run their lives. ie: all the stealing money. I went thru a little of this with my son and when I knew he was lying to me,and stealing from me, he got a boot out the door. And it did amazing things to help put him back on track. And now he is a great kid and dad to his son. I am a very strong believer in Tough Love if you want your kid to learn from life lessons. But if you enable them,and cover for them, then you get a kid like Casey. Sorry this turned out to be a long spiel but if it even helps one reader with their child then it is worth saying
#498 from Maura
I have had the exact same thoughts on Baez and Casey and am totally in agreement
There is no mysterious connection between Casey and Baez. She got his name while waiting to be booked sitting with other women and she asked if anyone knew a good lawyer and someone gave her Baez’ name. No funny business here. Same question was asked by Cindy on one of the first jailhouse visits. Shouldn’t be hard to find, sorry I can’t provide a date for the jailhouse video you’ll just have to sort through. I should look for it cause everyone asks the same question.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/graceruling.pdf
Page 4
Maura, thanks for the video of Lee pre-first and cancelled jail visit. Interesting, he says he has ‘gut feelings’ on what is going on with the missing Caylee, brother or uncle standpoint, but he ignores those ‘gut feelings’. Interesting to look back now. Thanks.
Maura, I’m so glad to see the comment you left. Right before opening up this page, (for the 1,000th time today, ha) I was just telling my husband what I thought of the theories of Baez/Casey prior to this case. I was telling him that I had a shady past he knows nothing about, lol. I’m now 40yrs. old, but when I was 18yrs. I got a traffic ticket that I never paid. I suppose at 18 I thought it would disappear, pay itself, who knows…. Needless to say, I learned the hard way that is not how it works. One day while driving (speeding) I got stopped, and lo’ and behold, that ticket from 5yrs. prior, popped up on my record, and I got a free ride to jail. Aside from being the most awful thing EVER, just riding in the car handcuffed, then I got the whole jail experience, before being bailed out 2 hours later. Ughhhh. I WILL pay any ticket I ever get again. My point is this…. While standing in the booking room, and also in a holding cell waiting to get OUT, I not only heard the name of many lawyers, (talk among inmates trying to leave) but also saw many names posted on the walls, beside the phones, by the entry to the booking room, etc.
I’ve never thought that Casey knew Baez prior to any of this. Of course, as I always say, everyone has their own thoughts and opinions and I respect that. However, I feel the problem with this case sometimes is that it’s simply so bizarre, that we tend to delve too deep to find answers (in certain situations)….. There are times I feel people, myself included, give Casey entirely too much credit for really thinking deeply and/or intelligently when it comes to some of the answers we strive to find. As I said, I’m certainly guilty of over-analyzing things at times myself, and I truly feel in the case of Casey knowing Baez prior to this case, this is definitely one of those times.
Pffffftttt, I hate typos, especially when they make me look like I can’t add. ha! My last post should have read…. The ticket from 2yrs. prior…. I typed 5yrs… that would have made me 13yrs. old when I got the ticket, and I’m guessing it would have been for more than just speeding if that had been the case….ughhhh!!! Sorry for looking like a doofus!
Blink!
Can you clarify your reponse to #334–
“I KNOW Baez knows her prints on the duct tape. There is no speculation on my part, he knows.”
Her prints = casey?
You stated that there is no speculation? “No speculation” meaning “fact” caseys prints Are on the tape?
I have been thinking about this since you wrote it, and since I am one of the people who is undecided of her guilt or innocence. I would have to say finding her prints on the tape would have to be a changing point in my perception of the case. Because how else could her finger prints be put on the duct tape unless she put them there?
I would have thought that with the length of time in the woods, being under water and the decomp that the odds of finding finger prints would be slim. Unless something with the adhesive would preserve the prints. I will have to see what I can find out on the subject.
You will not find it in research, I am telling you that her prints are on the tape. I respect anyone’s right to dismiss my opinion; however, I stand by it. Casey Anthony’s latents are on the duct tape on her baby’s face, period.
B
Hey Maura, Thanks for the video link. I had lloked for it until I was cross-eyed and fish-lipped.
And I think you are correct. Once JB saw stars, She could have been penniless with a third arm hanging from her forehead and he still would have shared licorice with her.
RED RANGER got ur response about casey nightmares as per nat. enq., good,finally something human about her feelings,i would think the nightmares are about her comptemplating being put to death,(speaks to guilt,imo)
Post #500 if latent prints have not been found than why would le have obtained fingerprints from lee cindy and george? I should think there was some print found somewher eincriminating and outside the norm.
The human body, when going through decomposition, leaves a waxy residue behind on many of the things it has touched. It would be the ultimate poetic justice if residue from Caylee’s little decomposed body wrapped itself around the fingerprints on the tape and protected those finger prints from being damaged, preserving the identity of her killer.
Red, this baby will be heard, and I thank you for your help in that effort.
Humbled,
B
I noticed in the autopsy a reference to a bit of gray cloth found with the remains and am wondering if cindy provided the detectives with those gray slacks of caseys that she found and washed.I remember she mentioned their condition but did the slacks get confiscated? Or are they gone forever?
Re: Comment #507
Wendy, thank you for sharing your booking experience. What you described relative to the attorneys’ contact information in the holding cells and near the telephones is what I have always wondered about.
I was particularly wondering if the lawyers have a little mini-CV near their contact information to give potential clients a sense of what cases they’ve handled. In his three years of practive, Jose Baez has had three newsworthy cases. He defended the mayor. He defended Nilton Diaz, a man accused (and convicted) of killing the two-year-old daughter of his girlfriend. That case was particularly newsworthy because the child was the granddaughter of a celebrated Puerto Rican boxer.
Even more interesting, though, is that Baez defended an Orange County woman accused of kidnapping an infant in September 2006. I was thinking that Casey would have been drawn to Jose Baez if she heard from an inmate that the kidnapping was one of his cases or if she read it on any type of brochure he left at the jail. Casey knew LE wasn’t buying her kidnapping babysitter story, so maybe she would have been keen to be represented by a lawyer who, from experience, might give her the benefit of the doubt.
http://www.wftv.com/news/9937341/detail.html
melissab, yes, that’s the ‘story’ but why take anything that Casey says to Baez who repeats the story of how Casey got his name from the jail booking room. Casey told Cindy too, so it’s still ‘Casey says…’.
We have that one story, but some of us (me with intuition– something doesn’t ‘seem’ right) is all I have to go on. We’ll wait and see if anything shows up as things progress. I just don’t take Casey’s word at face value, she was twisting too much too often. (like very sentence)
This Skip Davis?
“Skip Davis (aka: The Wolf) of 105.5 radio show in Ft Walton Beach, FL – wanted to remove all of the stuffed animals from Caylee’s memorial on Suburban Drive, Orlando, FL”
Did he get involved on his own? And would he be the one to have called Leonard’s friend in NY or is there no friend in NY?
Skip Davis is the former producer of A Current Affair or Hard Copy, I forget which.
B
Maura, the Larry Garrison connection– Anthony’s knew him from some years ago when he came to buy a puppy Cocker Spaniel from them. Was in one of George’s interviews, must have been the FBI tapes, that George explained this, and about how he was a bit jealous of this man at first, but they became good friends.
Skip Davis– now that’s one more new name to me. Boy, some things you can’t keep up with!
I hope you don’t nind my posting here. I would not consider myself anywhere near the intelligence or experience of many who post here nor do I play such on tv I am simply a 23 year old daughter and mother with a thriving 5 year od daughter of my own. I love my child more than my own life and I cherish my mother.I consider myself and my child lucky to have each other and am only following the facts of this case because I fail to ubderstand how so many could have failed caylee. That said I would like to state my own theory of this case. I believe caylee died on 6/15 and her mother killed her.. I think it clear the anthony family and her dt knows it. I also think the condition of the shorts found with caylee shows she died on the 15th and that someone placed those shorts there much later to try in a rather obvious and lame attempt to make it look as if caylee herself were placed there much later than june during the time casey was in jail. I think what has been uncovered by le and by others who care about this baby girl supports my theory and others who have reached the same conclusion.and have said so here.. Thanks for letting me share. I hope caylee gets justice.
Ok… Skip Davis is a ‘freelance producer’, as per a Wesh.com story from December18th. It’s a start…
http://www.wesh.com/news/18318021/detail.html
“There were some tense moments on Saturday at the memorial for Caylee at the crime scene that’s filled with stuffed animals.
People became furious after a freelance producer said he was going to remove all the toys and gifts from the scene.
“This is so wrong and we will not let you take it,” said a person at the memorial.
Skip Davis said he would take the toys to a home for underprivileged children in Orlando. He said the Anthony family asked him to do it.
Even though Davis said he would take the gifts, after the altercation with the crowd of onlookers, he left without taking anything.”
Ok Blink… back to your article ‘Casey/Caylee Anthony Case: Why We SO Care How Team Baez et al, is Getting Paid.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/30/caseycaylee-anthony-case-why-we-so-care-how-team-baez-et-al-is-getting-paid/
Since this article was written, Judge Strickland has ‘ok’d the source of funding ‘in camera’– what did he see, I wonder??? What did JB show him and was it the whole truth and nothing but the truth, or something else to satisfy the friendly judge?
And Skip Davis knows? Do you have a quote, Blink??
scott ,anonoymous, sunday poster, what gives about the shorts? do tell,i am interested ,i heard cindy describe those shorts,in the 911, and knew they were caylees,and knew they would probably be found with the body,that they must of been the ones in poppa video ,and the last thing to be wearing .Do you disagree that they showed up at the remains scene later than the body,or that they were decomposed at a different level than other clothing? or what?
re: post 111, Blink wrote:
“Kleat I am shocked at no link for you (lol). You read that here. Keith Williams interview.
B?
Ohboy, did I ever get caught out on that one!! But that was someone I could ONLY read here, because it’s surely not in the LE Williams interviews, either one of them, is it!!
I’m going to post the link for anyone who hasn’t read the article (or like me, read it then forgot where I read what I read! oops…. major apologies Blink!! Sometimes everything is overwhelming!.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/16/casey-anthony-case-bombshell-development-cindy-anthony-saw-bag-found-at-scene-in-august-2/#more-488
(talks about George giving Williams a ride home from Amscot, but also, about George and others reading here….)
Blink, what was George calling Valencia about on December 11th? Maybe that’s another bit I’ve forgotten– was George working security there at the time?
The operator never told Keith (per Keith) why he was on the phone, just that he was, so dunno..
B
I think casey killed caylee and left clues that sends a message to her family. The fathers day balloon found gives the date caylee died as 6/15 imo. The place she put caylees body was also chosen to send a message.and she left her smelly car and her purse at amscot so her parents would know that she killed caylee. Ske was in my opinion expecting to get caught much sooner than she did and did not care and does not still care that she got caught amd wanted herfamily to look for and find caylee and left them Clues to caylees location and must think her family stupid and lazy for not finding her sooner.jmo
I remember that the cops asked cindy to bring the grey slacks( they knew they had been washed) to them, so media would not know about it but it seems to me , and i could be wrong, but she was gonna bring the slacks with her for the next interview they were gonna have but there doesnt seem to be another interview after that. At least not one that was published.Cindy said those slacks were offered to the police but nobody seemed concerned with them so she washed them. Seems to me that after that they talked only to FBI. There was never any mention of the slacks having a whole in them
this is the link when cindy talks about the slacks
http://humbleopinion.net76.net/interviews/cindy%20anthony.pdf line 18
oops just noticed there is more than 1 that is numbered 18 so look at page 2081 at the above link
And as I am still awake and don’t work tomorrow I would also like to add that I don’t have a theory as to how or why caylee was killed and I don’t want to know. Casey would like us to chase her riddles and lexicons but I don’t think its necessary. I would not give her the satisfactionam I jus feel certain now that caylee has been found and knowing where she was found it was her mother who killed her. She gave the police the name of her killer and thanks to blinks investigation we now know that zg is really casey. And when she was asked why she did not report caylee missing she replied that she was using her own resourses meaning her family which supports my theory. She also took the detectives to all the places she herself has been and this is why le suspected caylee was dead and that casey killed her. And the how and why may never be known now that casey has shut up and gives no more of her clues. But imo casey spoke the truth of caylee in her own twisted way and stated quite clearly when she was questioned that she did not kill caylee to be free of her, she could have left her with her parents if that was the case and that has a ring of truth to me that statement
And finally as my child sleeps soundly in her bed and our windows and doors firmly locked to keep the freaks pedophiles and other ordinary riff raff out and my child safe I would like to say I feel certain that it is not the wheels of a bus heading for the anthonys but a fast moving train. What misguided fools cheeseandrice. Good night all
Anyone that puts cheese and rice in a post is cool with me, lol.
B
Has anyone wondered why by the 24th of June 2008 George was already calling the police to report the gas cans stolen and also was he repeatedly telling the tale of Casey coming home that day as well acting peculiar and not wanting him in the trunk and how he stresses she had the gas cans in her trunk. he obviously wants to tie her to the cans /tape as early as the 24th of June 1 week after this tragedy occured? Like he knew about the duct tape to be found on Caylee and washing HIS hands off that..CASEY had the cans and in HER car ect…ect…hmmmmmmmmmmmmm……….is that why perhaps just pieces of tape were on Caylee?? Would a former cop know how to poss. place that tape without implicating HIMSELF?????? hmmmmmm he and Casey had really been battling Cindy’s co-workers have said..was he sick of her blackmailing him maybe???????? YouTube caylee marie anthony greta otr 2…bigjuicykungfu’s channel.
A little insight to those who wonder about Casey’s jobs and money earned. I am a spoiled rotten (only) child with an only child. My Mother harbours a lot of guilt for the way she raised me, nothing bad happened she just wasn’t ready for a child, but when I had her Grandson she went into full Saint Grandmother mode. I never bought a diaper, toy or anything. I am married, good income, great marriage, good relationship with Mom now but I have NEVER to this day paid for a thing for my child. Casey did not need a job, Cindy paid for Caylee without question. She wasn’t dumb enough to ask Casey to pick up diapers.
Dear j.g.
You wrote: “On the 24th Cindy tried to cash a stimulus check for 1200, and George had to go sign it…If Cindy or George had a good standing with a bank account then this would have not been necessary.
That is 100000% incorrect!!! The pure and simple fact is if the check came in BOTH of their names from the U.S. Gov’t, BOTH signatures are necessary. Not only that, but a GOOD BANK that follows the law also requires both parties to be present to cash a gov’t check if it’s not being deposited into a joint banking account.
How do I know? This is how:
My husand and I keep separate bank accounts for a number of reasons…like the fact we disagree on his spending habits. Well, I’m sure Cindy doesn’t have George with her on a joint account (no wonder). A few years ago, I went on a Sat to cash our tax return. It’ was under $1000 because he works for himself and normally we pay, not get money back. When I went in they said since the check was in both of our names, and we didn’t have a joint account, he would have to present to fully cash the check. We had plans for the money and I didn’t want to deposit half in his and take my half….so he had to come in, which he did.
I was allllll mad and stuff, but later (once I simmered down) realized it was to protect not just those named on the check, but the bank. We have our house loan, my husband’s bank account and mine there, but separate checking. The bank explained they have no way of knowing we didn’t separate the day before and here I come in trying to gain his portion. I get it now, but that’s a fact. In virginia anyway.
Oh…and to add to the gov’t check thing. The loan officer at the bank grew up with my husband’s father and even loaned us his own money once yrs ago when we were in a tight spot (15k that is, which was paid back soon as we straightened out our finances). He came to speak to me initially before hubby got to the bank and appologized, but insisted they couldn’t go against policy. My credit score is 810 and my hubby’s 790…so don’t say we don’t have good standing with the bank.
Responding to comment by Kleat — June 28, 2009 @ 9:39 pm
Kleat,
In George’s July 24 OCSO interview, page 55, he said he and Cindy had known Paul Kelly, a local lawyer, since around 1990. Kelly had gone to an orthopedic clinic where Cindy was then working to have some work done on his foot. Cindy got to know him, then he showed up at the Anthony house to buy a cocker spaniel puppy. George said he was jealous of Kelly at first, but Kelly has become a close family friend and helped George with some worker’s compensation claims.
I don’t believe either George or Cindy had any connection to Larry Garrison before he contacted Cindy in late July 2008.
RE: the shorts. Maybe since it’s because casey wanted to be sure the clothes George said Caylee was last seen wearing were at the location. Pretty clear she went back to check on things more than once…or at the least walked by.
My mom and I have argued about this case. She posts here too. Mom was very mad that noone in the anthony clan called about caylee for so long and couldn’t understand it. I made the mistake of telling my mom that if I told her my daughter was with someone else and not available for over a month that she would believe me. She very scarily convinced me that I was wrong. That said I remember one of those talking head shrinks on the ng show “hello friend” on the day that cindys final 911 call was played ‘there is something wrong” that cindy knew the truth and became undone. And that cindy has been trying to undo the truth ever since.I thought this analysis made some sense at the time and still does.
Responding to comment by susan — June 28, 2009 @ 10:07 pm
Susan, below is the exchange from Cindy’s second 911 call on July 15. She is clearly describing Casey and what Casey was wearing at that moment, not what Caylee was wearing. She described Casey’s shorts as pink, teal, white, and black plaid, which is not at all similar to the description of the shorts found with Caylee’s remains:
Cindy told the 911 dispatcher that Casey (the daughter she wanted to have arrested) was standing right next to her. The dispatcher asked Cindy for a description of Casey:
“Cindy: 5 foot one and a half
Dispatcher: thin, medium or heavy build?
Cindy: thin
Dispatcher: color hair?
Cindy: brown
Dispatcher: what color shirt is she wearing?
Cindy: white
Dispatcher: what color pants
Cindy: (sighs) they’re shorts, they’re plaid, they’re like pink and teal and white… Black plaid.”
In the videotape taken at the nursing home on June 15, Caylee was wearing a robin’s egg blue shirt and plain white shorts (no colored stripes of any type).
George told LE that when Casey and Caylee left around 1:00pm on June 16, Casey was wearing pinstriped dress slacks and an off-white top. He said Caylee was wearing a blue jean skirt, pink top, white sneakers, and white sunglasses and was carrying a backpack decorated with monkeys.
The clothing found with Caylee’s remains on December 11 consisted of a pink top (with iron-on letters) and white shorts with thin vertical stripes in pink, orange, and green and a pink button on the front. There was a Dora the Explorer (“Adorable”) backpack with the remains, but no sneakers or sunglasses.
Hi. Does anyone know if the Anthonys or their lawyers are going to court today. I thought I read somewhere that they would be back in court on the 29th for the civil suit.
The comments here are excellent as I am fairly new, have not finished reading all comments.
I have it on good authority that the Cocker Spaniel, Checkers, owned by RMN was bought from the A’s as well. Maura, can you find that link? TIA.
I think George had had a butt full of Casey’s tantrums and stealing. She treated the whole family horribly, him especially. He knew what happened to his gas cans. But he now had a police report to threaten her with. If he had to have her arrested he was starting with something small. I think he was at his wits end and did not really know what to do. As an addendum to this thought, I also think he smelled his grandbaby on the day his cans returned to his possesion.
And to spoiled MelissaB. Ask mom if she wants to adopt an old fat bald guy. We can have really cool family BBQ’s and she can set her sights on knocking out my mortgage.
George stated in his interview Caylee was wearing a pink shirt and jean skirt when he last saw her on June 16th. Not the striped shorts. Casey described she was wearing a pink shirt and jean shorts the last time she saw her on June 16th. No mention of the striped shorts. Was she wearing the striped shorts on Father’s day June 15th? Does anyone know? I don’t recall seeing the shorts she was wearing when she visited her great grandfather that day. I know she was wearing a blue shirt. But this may not even matter. If she went swimming in the afternoon/evening who knows what clothes she was changed into after her swimsuit. Striped shorts may have been grabbed by Casey if she stormed out after an argument with Caylee in tow. Caylee was probably wearing the shirt with the big trouble comes small lettering and the swim diaper or pullup with no shorts on as Blink suggests by the autopsy report. Cindy probably knows that Caylee was wearing that shirt when she last saw her on June 15th.
Re: The shorts
I looked at Target’s line of Circo clothing hoping to find a pair of shorts similar to those described by the ME. Those shorts were not on the Target website, so they are probably past-season.
What I did see is that a number of girls’ toddler shorts on the website were made of cotton canvas or cotton twill. That is a far more sturdy material than the cotton jersey that t-shirts are made of, so simply relative to the differences in durability of different 100% cotton materials, it would be expected that the t-shirt would fall apart long before the shorts, if the shorts were made of a twill or canvas material.
So I would not draw any conclusions about the condition of the shorts compared to the condition of the t-shirt until I knew what type of 100% cotton material the shorts are made of.
Definately possible, but not what I believe personally, Maura. Either LE thinks those shorts were placed there at a later time, or they think the defense will make an argument they were, imo.
B
Also if the anthonys found something in the backyard on 7/3 they would have known for sure that caylle and casey were not on vacation or getting some space and time to bond. My mom literally exploded when I told her she would believe what I tell her. The explosion was so gross.
“You will not find it in research, I am telling you that her prints are on the tape. I respect anyone’s right to dismiss my opinion; however, I stand by it. Casey Anthony’s latents are on the duct tape on her baby’s face, period.
B”
Blink, why hasn’t Casey Anthony taken a plea deal yet? With her fingerprints on the duct tape covering the mouth of her murdered child, there is no way she will be acquitted. If she doesn’t take a plea deal, she will be convicted of capital murder and sentenced to death. Do you think the prosecution hasn’t offered a deal yet?
Also, Blink. How do George and Cindy Anthony explain Casey’s fingerprints on the duct tape? Surely they don’t believe they were planted there by the police.
The anthony clan must get off “lfantasy island” and come forward with the truth about what they found in the car and the backyard on 7/3. What a bunch of maroooons. Toot toot hear the train coming?
George and Cindy were interviewed by the FBI on July 30 and July 31, respectively.
On August, 4, George and Cindy were interviewed for the last time by OCSO. George was interviewed by Eric Edwards (audio released); George said he would cooperate and would contact LE with his Epass information, which he never did (his Epass records were recovered via subpeona per Nov 5 report 11-26 Part 4). Cindy was also interviewed by Eric Edwards; at the end of the interview, Cindy said she would voluntarily hand over Casey’s gray pants. She did not, nor did she return any LE phone calls after that date. The pants were recovered via search warrant per 11-5 report in 11-26 Part 4 Discovery.
To add, OCSO were actively seeking to question the Anthony’s just prior to their representation by Brad Conway. They refused to do so without immunity.
B
I buy Circo shorts from Target for my two girls. If it’s the ones that were in that one picture/video of Casey and Caylee playing on the floor, yes they are a thicker cotton mix than just a t-shirt. Definitely more durable.
MAURA, i appreciate being checked and even proven wrong,but the shorts in the nursing home video are,pink plaid, the white balance makes the stripes hard to see ,caylee seems to own plaid shorts in various colors,(purple,in the video of her & casey rolling around on the carpet)i searched for what casey was wearing that night, earlier at the bank that day it is jeans & a spaghetti strapped top,the only next outfit i find is the blue sports top and jeans ,that she is arrested in,plaid shorts are caylee’s thing ,the shorts in the video are pink teal and white ,the black was added as a red herring(imo),i stand corrected if the shorts with the remains are orange and green based ,BUT I’d rather stand corrected that casey was wearing plaid shorts at that time(ANYONE?),cindy seems to me to be describing from memory and casey’s clothed limbs are right next to her.
Funny, Red Ranger. And speaking of clothing materials, are Circo 100% cotton shorts as durable as respectable Republican cloth coats?
Maura, thanks for the correction on the Garrison thing. I heard that cocker spaniel deal, obviously remembered incorrectly. I think maybe it was early on and unlike you, I wasn’t keeping notes! Thanks!
But now I seem to be missing the early LE interviews. George came by separately too, to have a chat with his buddies to get info in case things were going to go in a bad direction, so he could break it to Cindy, and also to apologize to his LE investigator/collegues(not) about Cindy’s ‘grandmother thing’ behaviour.
Going to try to fill in this gap and find the source of the (I assume) ‘pre-FBI’ interviews besides the one single one with George.