Tracy Ocasio Case: Sewer By Hataway Home To Be Searched Today
Ocoee, FL– Additional search plans for Tracy Ocasio, 27, last seen at the Florida Tap Room leaving with Jimmy Hataway on May 27, are focused on the sewer by Hataways home today.
Last week, the septic tank was drained in the home that Hataway shared with his father Vrigil, following the seizure of two computers.
Ocasios yellow Chevy Cobalt was found a few blocks from Hataways home the day after she was last seen but Police have not called him a suspect in her disappearance.
The Ocasio family recently launched a site, www.tracyocasio.com to help generate leads in her case.
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Fox has more info. Am I allowed to post the link?
Yes, but I did not see anything more than one it is on here.
B
I’ve been wondering what was going on with this. Is Hataway still locked up?
Yes
B
I think it is logical to assume he has a quick underground location to dispose of a body..
He may have used the car in 2 different cases to drive to a location other then his home to do the actual disposal. Then he drives the victims car back and parks it in a location that becomes a crime scene and the real crime scene is in a different location..
The inside of the car and especially the floor boards could give some clue into where that area may be depending on how differing the geology is in the area..The tires too.
There is probably many underground locations such as septics and sewers and bodies of water in Florida.. No doubt about that.
How much time could have elapsed between the point she gives him a ride and where her car is found and go back over the spot where the car is found looking for witness..
This is a hard situation and time is the enemy now.
I very much agree Edward, as I believe focusing solely on one individual is not in the best interests of finding Tracy, imo.
B
He may have taken her someplace where OTHERS were waiting..
Others do a disposal and all he does is drive the car back.
There are so many possibles.. But with No Witnesses to any of it ??
There must be a way to follow there path through witness.. Gas station video, street surveillance video, private company surveillance cameras.. Street people who are aware of most everything late at night. The sleep in places that most do not consider.
The culprit/s can’t be invisible.
How bad would you have to hate someone to put them in a sewer or septic tank? Disgusting.
I read online that Hataway is the only POI. Do you think they’re looking solely at him or do you think the LE is witholding info?
As always Blink, you leave me wanting more
TY Lovin’, I think they are solely focused on Hataway and I think it’s a mistake.
B
Looks like they searched for Jennifer Kesse again yesterday but came up empty handed http://www.wftv.com/news/19895267/detail.html
How many arrests has Hataway had for belligerent and assaulting behavior towards woman over the years while under the influence of ETOH. This information would give important information about his strength when he is imbibed and would dictate whether or not he would require another party’s help if he is the person responsible for the disappearance of the two young ladies. The time between the two crimes makes me think that there are other young ladies that have gone missing that have been overlooked that are linked to this case.
Has anyone looked to the area’s further away. Jennifer’s case had a lot of press and would have made the area uncomfortable. He might have gone to a more populated area. They do not need a body. They need a female disappeared in the nighttime hours whose vehicle was found parked away from home but not in a familiar place.
Did the trail on Paul Hutto just go away or is he still someone we should be interested in?
V E R Y
B
I believe now TWO women have disappeared after being in this man’s company where their vehicles were located close to his home, correct? Not such a smart criminal, thankfully. Like Casey, Scott Peterson, BTK Killer, and others who thought they were smarter than LE, I have to say his mistakes will be found and reveal the truth.
No longer can a woman trust a man is offering her a ride or otherwise because he’s a knight in shining armour. Too likely he may be a demon in knight’s clothing! Sorry for those men who are good and wouldn’t do such a thing, but women simply be sure you have your own way home and don’t accept rides from anyone. Cabs aren’t that expensive compared to funeral arrangements or the cost of an investigation! Not to mention the grief your loved ones will go through.
Interesting that Fox Orlando says that the sewer being drained is by JH’s former homes, with an s at the end.
It is also interesting that they keep pushing his interest in the dark arts and vampires. This is a PR campaign to sway public opinion against him and has nothing to do with him being involved with Tracy’s disappearance. Don’t get me wrong, I am not on his side. But his history and the known facts of his past crimes had absolutely nothing to do with demons, devils, vampires, witches, orcs, ents etc. I would be more easily led to believe he was playing pirate.
I agree, and as someone who has been up and down his site and cached all of it’s contents, I can tell you those comments were made prior to his computers being seized, Er Go… If it was based on myspace, that comment does not apply. I also noted it was not attributable to anyone as a quote. HMMM.
Im on Tracy’s side, whomever is responsible. But I have been doing this long enough to know IF there’s more than one “badguy”, or he’s the wrong badguy, they may never find her and that is unacceptable to me.
B
Oh and Greg Toole…. sorry for the lapse in time. I had to go back and find his name. Old age. No fun. Are both he and Paul still on your radar, B?
A B S O L U T E L Y. Firmly embedded until further notice as a matter of fact. Don’t Forget Jeremiah, he actually had the most to lose. Something that has bothered me tremendously from the beginning. Toole was just arrested for non-registering, why in the world would he feel so confident to WANT to speak to the press. People like that shy away at all costs, he did not. What had him feeling so comfortable?
B
When the media as well as the cops interviewed Tool, I could swear that I saw his arms wrapped in bandages, that had blood that had seeped through. Has anyone seeing this photo? I can no longer find it. All I know that Tracy was a fighter. She would have fought, no matter how small she is, and would had left some nasty marks on the offender. I am a firm believer that Hataway had help. This wasplanned from before. That is why all these creeps are so well re-hearsed. Tracy is out there, somewhere. Please good folks, keep praying that God may Will that we find Tracy. Her father is in an abyss of pain, from which he can’t get out. He needs her body found, to find a little bit of peace. Thank you. And thanks Blink, for keeping this tragic situation alive in your site. We the Ocasio’s are grieving for Tracy, and this is our only comfort, coming here to see what you have found.
I have never seen a photo of Toole anywhere except here, and I never heard that about scratches, etc from a family member, so I apologize but I cannot verify.
B
Hey Blink, One question we have wondered about is how did the press find Toole for him to comment in the first place? He also made it sound as if he and Hat were passing acquaintences. We know that is a load.
Also, the maps and phone numbers are showing things that cannot be true. I guess I am going to have to get a calculator and start adding again.
Great question Red, I heard a guy from the bar gave cops a list of aquaintances and the press talked to him and called Toole
B
Blink-
OT
have you heard anything about Brittanee Drexel?
No, unfortunately
B
Hey Blink,
It looks like they added more charges to Hataway’s list of offenses concerning the Rachael Clark incident. (Link provided below) The father, Joe Ocasio, was also interviewed on a local radio show (the BS on Real Radio 104.1) and he mentioned the idea/potential that others may have been involved and/or know more than they are letting on. Which, I know, is vague but it makes me somewhat hopeful that they are entertaining other possibilities. He was also supposed to be meeting with LE sometime this afternoon to discuss the contents of Hataway’s computer. Is it solely the Ocoee Police Department that is responsible for completing the investigation?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-james-hataway-063009,0,403780.story
Oh yeah, I also wanted to thank you so much for keeping this out there! I am in no way connected with the family or the case. However, it’s basically in my backyard and I am becoming very concerned that it will be similar to the Kesse case in more ways than her disappearance, etc.
PS: I am also fairly new to the site and had done some minor research, to no avail, when I initially stumbled upon it. I was looking for the basic background type stuff as to who you are, where you were from, and how you got to doing what you do today. I minored in PoliSci and CJ and have begun to look up to you and your work. I now have a regional clue as to where you are, however, as there is a time zone difference with the posting. Hmmm…vury vury interesting…
Unfortunately I also think there is more than one person involved in this case. These creeps are like a mini-gang, with a “boss” and all, and seems to me these guys are quite afraid of their “boss” (who is calling the shots). How else could boss-man have all that power over his co-creeps and get away with what he has done for so long? imo there is way too much going on, (hiding a body, driving cars around, etc.) to do all by himself. He not only has help but they are all covering for one another.
Has anyone contacted a Psychic, I know some are non-believers….but she’s out there somewhere and how hard is it to believe that god could have made someone feel or see thing’s that other’s can’t. LE is getting nowhere fast on this case and it’s time to bring in anyone who can help.
I have seen LE use phychic’s in the past, why not now?
Much hope for finding her, as I have been checking back here alot, I don’t watch much news, it’s simply to depressing!
So I’m assuming the searches turned up nothing since there’s no news to that effect?
Blink was forensic evidence found in Tracy Ocasio’s abandoned car?
It was actually cancelled with no explanation, but presumably due to the extensive amount of rain
B
bottomline, yes…they run in packs like dogs sometimes. We can never forget Natalee Holloway. That Joran Van De Sloot and his friends Deepak and Satish…along with who knows else…definately trolled for the women in this manner (alerting one another to when and where to meet) and targeted tourists.
Remember Joran’s own admission when he stated, “we done this (however) many times before and nothing like this ever happened?” Well, my questions is what did you do many times before and why did nothing happening matter?
B, have you heard anymore from Ocoee*44*Mane or any of the others that you had to delete? It seems as though they dropped us a huge hint and then just disappeared. Are you able to keep an open dialogue with them? It just seemed as though this person was wanting to, in his own way, let the cat out of the bag. I dunno, I could be way off. It could have just been a threat but one with merit and the gusto to back it. Thoughts?
I am hesitant to say whom I keep in contact with as I never reveal a source, but I do believe that Ocoee *44* Mane was legit, and his message was transcribed accurrately.
B
Has LE even considered the possibility of human trafficking for sex slaves in the disappearance of these women, Kesse and Ocasio? I hate to even go there, however it does exist in our country as well as world wide.
Oh, I understand, B, wasn’t really looking for sources, just wondering if that element was still in contact, if that makes sense. Thank you, ma’am…… I am so wanting to look in one direction right now but feel like you can’t with this case. Fell like nudging me in any particular direction?
Sure, 4 of them, Huttos, Hataway and Toole. Not one of them can be excluded yet, for me.
B
Blink, what about her car? Was forensic evidence of a crime found in her car? LE took DNA from Hataway a few weeks ago. He admitted to getting a ride home from her, so his DNA in her car wouldn’t necessarily be evidence of a crime. However, if there was evidence of a struggle AND his DNA, they could have something to work on.
FairWitness said in #25: He admitted to getting a ride home from her, so his DNA in her car wouldn’t necessarily be evidence of a crime.
But wouldn’t it depend on where the DMNA was found? If he got a ride home, he should have been on the passenger side. If his prints or DNA was found on the steering wheel or the drivers side door, that would prove that he drove the car, yes?
Was it Toole or Hataway that got into it with the Huttos? Or am I way off and one of them just was a running buddy of them? I keep trying to find that info and can’t. However, I just read an atrologists charts (for fun while looking for info) and there were a couple of things that popped out that I had been wondering about myself.
If I knew the link to the Huttos, I could be dead on.
You can and please do if you think it’s farfetched and I’m in the worng direction: I think she dropped Hataway off and everything happened just as he has said. I think Toole (who lives very close by) was waiting for her at her car. Being that she knew him, she was comfortable. This is where my theory gets blown if I’m off on who was connected to the Huttos. I think he directed her to them, in order to pay off some sort of debt without her knowing who or where they were going.
I dunno. I just feel these three are more involved than Hataway. I’ll eat my crow pie if I’m wrong but my gut just keeps leading me in that direction.
You make a good point, LC. I was really interested in blood evidence, clumps of hair, broken fingernails, smeared prints on the windows, broken, cracked or dislocated car interior parts or components which would reflect a fight or struggle inside the car.
All I’ve read is that Tracy’s car was parked on a street near the suspect’s home. I don’t recall reading or hearing anything about what the condition of or evidence in the car was, do you?
Ok, I found what I needed and I stand by my above post. B, how much of your gut leads you in the right direction or turns you in another direction?
Ashley, with deep respect, I say, if you want to see where I am leaning, it is all on here and it’s really not my style to be that specific in an open case, I hope you understand. Let me put it this way, I broke the story on the Hutto’s and Toole. Why?
B
Blink, OT but have you seen this?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529688,00.html?test=latestnews
#29….. Totally understand and respect that. I’m just an impatient person……
I’ll keep searching.
You broke the story because your gut and valid info told you so….. (I’m hoping your gut had something to do with it).
My instincts have yet to fail me, your correct. I feel thats because I listen to them intently, and then try to prove them wrong at the same time if that makes sense. That’s about as much as I want to put out there right now. I could laundry list about 10 things in the investigation of this case that make no sense to me that all come back ’round..kwim?
B
The pic I saw of Tool with bandages on his arms was in another site. I thought it was Fox but I can’t find the link. I also agree with the Red Ranger, at the way Tool spoke about Hataway, as if he was a casual aquaintance of Hataway, as if to distance himself. I still believe this was planned. The fact that Hataway was into the black arts and cannivalism, goes beyond portraying him in a bad image. It makes us, Tracy’s family members think even worst thoughts about what might have happened to her. I believe every thing we can find about this evil doers can be significant in finding Tracy. I am aware that one of the Hutto’s house is right next to a lake. Was that lake dredged?
Mrs. Cali-
I am going to tell you I have researched this guy thoroughly. He may be a bully, and alot of not so nice stuff, but I dont buy the cannibalism and dark arts crap. Frankly, that was put out there AS his computers were being video’d openly in the back of the detectives car, so they had not even been searched yet. That lake has NOT even been searched. Paul Hutto was actually leading the cops to different “areas” of interest. Yes, I am serious, that “Hutto” was leading LE. Makes me miss Kojak.
B
RE: comment #19 — There is a psychic by the name of Gale St. John in Florida searching for Tracy at this time.
MJH- no offense, but Gale St.Fraud is exactly that and under no circumstances will I further her fleecing of people. I know this from personal experience, not my opinion. She is an opportunistic scamartist as is Brian Ladd, her boy in the basement partner.
B
Ashley, if Toole was waiting for Tracy when she came out of Hataway’s house, how did he know that she was there? If Toole is involved, Hataway is too. And the Hutto brothers, they may possibly have been involved … but how would they know Tracy if not through Toole & Hataway? It’s possible all four men are duplicitous.
Do we have any information yet on any other phone calls she may have made the evening of the 26th into the morning of the 27th? Also, I am sure they followed the pings of her phone from the Taproom back to Ocoee. Any information yet on any stops or prolonged periods in any particular area?
I am especially curious about the phone calls, especially later in the evening. The suspect has said that he and Tracy were going to smoke pot at his dad’s house but that she shied away due to lack of quantity. If Hataway is telling the truth then she would have either used her cell or dropped by a friends home. Unless it was close to Hataway’s house it would have changed the tower her cell pinged off of. I know they have stated that her phone was used at 4:30 am, pinging off the tower just south of his house. This is the same tower it pinged off of in the morning when Mrs. O called her. What about before and between?
Toole apparently lives on Lakewood. His house would be about a five minute drive from Hataways. On the south end of Lakewood is a 7-11. North of Toole’s house is a small convenience store on the right. I will assume all of their surveilance tapes have been checked. Also, there is a convenience store by Hataways house that he was a frequent customer at. I will also assume their tapes were checked.
Fairwitness said in # 28: All I’ve read is that Tracy’s car was parked on a street near the suspect’s home. I don’t recall reading or hearing anything about what the condition of or evidence in the car was, do you?
I know it was mentioned that both front seats were pushed forward. It’s a two door car and someone posted at some point that maybe the seats were pushed forward because whoever was the last to drive checked the back seat area to make sure that there wasn’t anything left behind. I thought that was a decent theory. But, unless the person who was driving remembered to wipe everything down, there should be prints on the wheel and the door handle.
This is pretty elementary, I am sure the police have checked this already.
Ashley Marie – I have to say that I am on the same page as you – but not so sure Hataway was all that much of a bystander. I used to think Human Trafficking – but not anymore.
Hi Blink, You don’t have to post this, but I sent you something earlier regarding this case, which you passed along. I don’t know if you remember the post or the name “Nolan” that came up. But, on a whim, I searched the sex offender lists in Ocoee and Apopka, and this is what I found:
Nolan, John Arthur
Address: 5050 Mt Plymouth Road (Apopka)
Zip code: 32712
Crime: Unlawful Sexual Activity With Certain Minors 16/17 Yr Old; F.s. 794.05(1)
Sex: Male
Date of birth: 1974-11-25
Eye color: Blue
Hair color: Blond
Height: 5’11
Weight: 174 lbs.
I may be way off, and I don’t want to start naming innocent people. But, I have to tell you, this sent chills up my spine. I also looked up the address on a map. It’s at the “end” of the road, with a lot of trees around the back area. I’m not sure if this guy is incarcerated or not at this time, though. Anyway, just a thought, and I wanted to pass it along to you, just in case. You never know. Thanks Blink, MJH
blink, i dont want to bring back up the guilt by assoc. thing,so can you delete this and am sure you already noticed anyway,just want make sure,there is the guy in one your photo collection stories wearing kahki pants,and black shoes at his feet ,the guy in the jennk video looks like some kinda kakhi pants and some kinda black shoes,I have tried to look closely and match TO RULE OUT ,but cant.he’s not hathaway ,as per tattooes.
Hi Blink, Regarding comment #33 — No offense taken. I trust your judgement and respect your work. I actually have never heard of either person before….just stumbled upon it while searching for information on Tracy. I really had no idea what to make of it. So, I thank you for your reply. That’s the problem with the “psychic” thing….too many frauds.
Blink-
Hutto is leading the cops around??? with his ‘record’ of non-records, not to mention possible motive?? Something is starting to seem a little funny here, and I don’t mean LOL funny.
Also, if you have time and are able to expand on this from post 12? (if not of course understand) “Don’t Forget Jeremiah, he actually had the most to lose.”
One of P. Hutto’s records you put up in the other post was listed as transferred to div 62, but I couldn’t find any FDLE divisions listed as such.
It’s not good news with all those dropped charges and pleadings….depending on what kind of ‘big fish’ LE might be getting ready to go frying….those dropped records go way far back… know what I mean?? I was wondering if all those charges on Hutto were out of the same PD? Ocoee? I don’t have access. They either have the right guy, or the perfect set up is being played out. I’m thinking Hutto’s and Toole likely knew about Rachel Clarke also.
Riddle, as usual, very sharp.. Check both jackets- these 2 are teflon with some serious “pardons”.
I dont think Clarke is a conduit though.
B
P.S. TIA ms. Kojak (hat tip)…..I LOL’d at Archie Bunker….but this takes the cake. And let’s not forget Columbo….there DanO.
Im trumpin’ ya.. Barnaby Jones…
B
I have always thought that someone was targeting these young women and possibly selling them in order to pay a drug or gambling debt. If that turns out to be true, then LE needs to be looking at a much wider circle than that we see to date.
It is too easy to kidnap someone in Florida and put them on a boat out of the country. Two hours of drive time would put a kidnapper at a dock on either the Atlantic side or the Gulf of Mexico side of the state.
Keep working Blink, we need some answers on these cases.
How can the LE be that dumb, to allowe Hutto to show them around?!? How can they even believe what he has to say? I am truly disgusted with the Ocoee police, it is sick.
Hey Riddle, Don’t forget 6 files in Seminole county. Try to read number five without having your head spin. It may make you Mannix depressive. I checked Polk county too. Nothing. Going for Osceola next.
This does not include the spouse’s files. The whole clan should be in a building with iron sides.
I got a creepy feeling about Toole,especially after seeing him on the tavern video. It appeared that he was following Tracy and Hataway out of the bar. It also does not sit right with me that Toole refers to Tracy as a friend and Hataway as an acquaintance. Trying to keep suspicion away from himself? Just my own opinion
Jackie, where do you see Toole leaving after Jimmy and Tracy?
B
First, I would like to thank Blink for allowing these discussions to exist. Any attempt at this type of forum on other sites has been met with such hateful resistance that I gave up.
I have a question that I was hoping someone could answer. I only saw this once and haven’t been able to find it again.
It was reported that right before Tracy and Jimmy left the Tap Room that night, she went back to speak to a man for only a moment. Does anyone know who this man might have been?
Cant be ruled out Sunday, what do Hutto’s cell phone pings say?
B
I’d also like to throw this out there. It’s pure speculation and I have nothing to base this on. But, is it possible that Jimmy was asked by “someone” to have Tracy drive him home and it was a trap? We know that she had a prior altercation with the Hutto’s. Could it be that they waited until Tracy and Jimmy got home and the Hutto’s “took it from there?”
Goodness B, I don’t know. Good question. If that info is out there I may have missed it.
I’d also like to know if you see our posts before they are seen? I have a scenario in my head regarding another situation involving the POI that I’d like to run by someone but it may inflame others. I don’t want to put anything out there that may start a riot.
I do.
B
Calilady, you show your absolute lack of education on investigative work by your snide comment regarding the Ocoee police dept as well as a distain for LE in their taking time to deal with Hutto.
Often times, a guilty party will get cocky and let important information for LE slip out. Remember what C.S. Lewis said in one of the Chronicle of Narnia…”if you add a little truth to a lie, it makes it all the stronger/more believable.”
LE is sharp regardless of your beliefs and they have alot of information we know nothing about. If Hutto mentions something in passing that catches their attention, they will follow up. I believe that is the point of keeping him close. The more they do this, the more comfortable he will be and the looser his tongue will become. Trust me.
Here’s a little story: when I was dispatching a theif caught in the act was brought into the station. This guy declared he was born in Australia (had not accent), was adopted (not sure of his last name), and didn’t know his Social Security number. IN other words, the cops got ziltch from him. They sat him next to dispatch in cuffs in the holding area (there was bullet proof glass between the rooms so we could watch these folks) and the arresting officer called me into the back room. He asked I try and get “anything I could” out of him.
Well, after the officer went back out I started a conversation with the guy asking if he was really from Australia. He said ‘yes’. I told him that was soooo cool! He started spouting off about surfing in Australia and I then asked if he was adopted, how old was he when he was adopted or did he start surfing young? He then realized his mistake and said he normally surfs on the east coast of Florida when on vacation (the PD I worked @ was in S.W. Virginia). I then asked what his last name was and he gave me two…the one supposedly his “birth name” and his adoptive parents’ name. So, then I had a first and 2 last names to work with which wasn’t enough.
We continued to talk about the beach and small stuff for about 20 mins. At that point, I asked him if he was a Gemini like me. Being he had 2 last names, he probably had 2 personalities like me. He loosened up and laughed at that and declared he was a Leo! I only needed a birth date to run the two names through NCIC and find a match and was getting close….so I told him my husband was a Leo and born on Aug 25th!!! he then gave me his birth date. The other dispatcher on duty quickly ran both names against that date using several years since he also wasn’t sure how old he was (no kidding).
Well, we finally got a “HIT” and realized he was wanted to Grand Theft and B&E in Norfolk. So….she then declared his last name and age to him and told him, “I see you’ve been a bad boy!” He was shocked and wouldn’t say another word except he wanted his lawyer. :>)
So…all that to say LE is NOT stupid. They know how to pull information from someone and I had learned to do so when in college taking police science courses in criminal investigation. Please know you are quite wrong about the reasons LE is taking time with this individual named Hatto. If I (an untrained “wanna be” investigator) can do this..imagine what a well trained seasons investigator can get from someone without their knowing it!!!
Brenda, I think you may have been a bit harsh on this one. For starters, questioning LE is smart, and good cops expect that.
I dont think anyone called anyone unintelligent, but I disagree vehemently with the way this case is being handled, on many levels. It pains me to say that, but I work for the victim, so I am compelled to.
B
Comments 46 and 47 have really caught my attention.
Jackie, I have always wondered what happened on the video AFTER Tracy and Hataway left the bar, but all of the video’s I have seen cut off right after they leave. I have wondered all along if somebody actually followed them. If Toole knew she was leaving with Hataway, he obviously knew where to find her. If there is a link to a longer video which shows people leaving after Tracy and Hataway, I would love to see it. Could you post a link to this video? Thanks
Also, Sunday, I think if Tracy went back to speak with a man briefly before she left, this could be a huge clue. I have not seen that information before. Could she have possibly made plans to meet up with someone else after she dropped Hataway off?