Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Baez Blasts Team Padilla
Orlando, Fl– Late last week the latest motions in the defense of Tot mom Casey Anthony for allegedly murdering her 34 month old daughter Caylee were filed. Talk about your average ingrate. The very team Jose Baez called on for help to bail out his client is the latest target in Baez defense teams attempt to restart the bilge pump in Casey’s sinking ship.
Baez latest attempt to un-ring the Padilla bell may as well have arrived at the clerks office on a cocktail napkin; it will be taken exactly that seriously.
There is no expectation of privilege where there is no attorney/client relationship in Florida. The question is, did Jose Baez sufficiently disclose that information to his client, Casey Anthony? Is this motion really designed to stave off the current Florida Bar complaints under investigative review?
Sources inside the investigation have confirmed to blinkoncrime.com that Baez is attempting to head the testimony of Padilla et al “off at the pass” for multiple reasons. It is expected that the backyard babblings of Casey Anthony to Tracy Mclaughlin will corroborate some of the evidence at the scene where Caylee Anthony’s remains were found. That’s not all. Baez is indirectly looking to block Leonard, Tracy, Rob and Tony from the civil case against his Client filed by Zenaida Gonzalez by blocking them from allowing their testimony as witnesses for the state in the criminal trial.
So What Would They Say?
Leonard Padilla, and occasionally Rob Dick have appeared on camera and spoken publicly about this case for the better part of a year.
Tony Padilla agreed to appear once on Nancy Grace to clear up some inconsistencies about the Surety process at the request of his surety firm early on, but prefers not to speak about the case publicly. Tracy has never given an interview publicly, but all of them have given statements to the FBI. What possible grounds will he claim to assert privilege when they did not work for Baez, nor did Baez ever pay any of them for anything?
None, because there aren’t any.
As far as revelations in their testimony, don’t expect any bombshells that have not been floating about already with the possibility of an exception or 50. They are:
Casey openly admitted to Rob Dick that she was forced to be following a script. He is also expected to provide some insight as to what Casey was doing in Baez’s office for 7 hours a day under the auspice of preparing for her defense.
The defense team revealed openly they would be pointing the finger at Jesse Grund. They are in possession of a first birthday card Jesse wrote to Caylee that they plan to use as the foundation of such an allegation.
Casey made Tony Padilla dinner the evening he got there to post her bond in George and Cindy’s presence in the Anthony home. He found her demeanor to be completely inconsistent with that of a mother whose child was missing, and she never once mentioned Caylee. Outside of Casey’s presence Tony asked Cindy who Caylees’ father was. Cindy presented him an article from the May 7, 2007 fatal crash that claimed the life of Jesus Ortiz. Tony initiated meeting Casey because one of his concerns when posting bond for her, was that she might commit suicide. Following that meeting, he felt confident there was a zero percent chance that was a possibility.
Remember this line, you will hear it again, “When are you going to stop acting like a cop and start acting like a Dad!!!”.
George Anthony purchased the handgun minutes following the rumor that Casey was about to be arrested on the economic charges and her bond would be revoked. Baez told the Anthonys’ that he alerted the OCSO that if that were the case, he would agree to turn her in, and they were under the impression they would agree to that arrangement.
What Baez did not know, is that OCSO was aware of the building potential for violence between George and Casey in the Anthony home and there was a genuine concern for Tracy’s safety on behalf of Team Padilla in the Anthony home. George Anthonys’ friend from Trumball County Ohio, we will call him Trumball Jim, told George everything he needed to know about Caylee’s whereabouts was in her room down the hall, (indicating Casey in her bedroom). George had it out with Casey demanding she tell him what she knew, and Jim had to pull George and Casey apart. Tim Miller, founder of Texas Equusearch, arrived shortly thereafter and was met at the door by Jim, with that episode being recounted to him as the first interface he had with anyone in the Anthony camp in that home.
This prompted Leonard’s comments on Nancy Grace that they could revoke her bond for any reason at any time and they were considering it. The photo on the front page of this article comes from the press conference following the meeting between Leonard and Baez that ensued after Baez had previously refused to discuss the issue with Leonard until he threatened to pull out.
Casey Anthony was scheduled to be interviewed by ABC at the Anthony home the day after she was rearrested and her bond was revoked. This was the reason that the Padillas received countless calls from Cindy and Lee begging Tony Padilla not to revoke her bond. Had they not, she could have been released within the hour as Baez stated at the time.
Lastly, the agreement Baez presented in his motion is not the only agreement between the parties in this motion. There is at least one more variation in which Tony Padilla requested language changes specifically that he did not include in the motion.
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Long time reader, first time poster.
My compliments to everyone here — Blink, I learned more about this case from your site than from anywhere else, and I’ve been following this case closely since Day One (ooops! Day 31).
Silvrspoon — belated Happy Birthday. Can I be you when I grow up?
Kleat — that you for that link to the Pat Brown July 2008 interview — can’t believe I’ve not seen that before now, I think she hit the nail on its head (forgive the hammer reference, please…). Not sure I’ve ever seen anyone on a MSM channel call Cindy herself a sociopath like her daughter, and that was so very refreshing to see! (UM…. duh!)
Everyone, please keep up the great sleuthing and sharing your great insights! (And Ms. Blink, please keep yourself safe down there while pursuing other big cases!)
TY Kindly and Welcome.
B
#237 BOO, well first i’d have to know what was the reason for deleting anything (i could understand risgue pictures )and what was deleted(there is the deleted myspace discovery ,(is that some of it?),but you know maybe she WAS deleting,AS cindy was arriving at tony’s,tony says she was on the computer,blink said they’ll be able to when the computer was crashed. hmmm,where is the info on the message that cindy sent to casey around noon,about big prob,cuz that’s the same time casey’s says she talked to caylee,yes caylee did talk to casey that day thru the decomp discovery when that trunk opened and nana messaged casey(was it cell ,text, email?)caylee spoke.part of the codespeak between them a’s is a type of euphemism,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemism cindy had going all along,casey finally caught on and mastered it in thoose jail visits w/ just her and george.FOR example: she promises george that caylee will return they just all need to get back together as a family .she’s promising him another grandchild to replace their lost star.if i had more time …yea i think a software program that allows you to do searches within the evidence released would be genius.
I went over the phone call that Casey made to her home from jail when she was asking for Tony’s phone number and I still don’t think her family knew about it before they found the car… Cindy told her straight out that she wouldn’t be where she was if she hadn’t lied. And Lee wasn’t all that easy on her either.. Told her to not call there and start yelling or screaming at them.
I really think if Cindy knew before hand she wouldn’t have gotten Amy and Tony and the police involved.. She wouldn’t have called 911.. I think the family was thrown into a ugly nasty sad situation and didn’t know how to handle it. NOW since then and how they have handled it is disgusting but initially I don’t think they knew what the heck to do like most people would be having to face that kind of brutal reality.
#288 Blink’s addition to the post, is a little gem that we won’t hear on msm– we suspected of course, but we only had the ‘official’ line of the lawyers. Pure manipulation goes to bullying their own lawyer– good for Brad! He’d have no choice really, like NeJame in a position of conflict because of Anthony’s activities (I firmly believe that NeJame’s statements are absolutely true, just that there is more he can’t say, just like Conway was in a bad spot).
If Blink is right about George not knowing all that Cindy has done, we know she didn’t have enough respect for George or his opinions or input so this is very possible, then George may do well to have his own lawyer as he may see a conflict of interest for his and Caylee’s interests, maybe even for Casey’s best interests in avoiding the DP or general pop’n, in the future.
As to Search and Seizur…..police took a friend’s computer and had her sign that they could take it. They also took a roommate’s computer without permisssion. They then tried to make a case against the roommate based on information they took from his computer. Police provided him with a search warrant for it dated August 15. Police had removed the computer over a month before that. The case was tossed (of course). It was still an uphill battle for him, and he had to hire an atty so the cost was huge.
What case are you talking about?
B
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublespeak ,the type of euphemism is doublespeak ,my caylee is missing is part of it ,and maybe it was george who caught on and mastered in those jail visits
So Blink..George is to give a depo today in court for the prosecution.
I know that his testimony in the Grand Jury hearing helped bring in the DP verdict for Casey.
Question: If he changes his story today in the depo can he be questioned by the DA about those changes..and isn’t that considered perjury? I hope for once he remembers little Caylee today, as he did that day in the fall before the DP..she deserves to have her grandfather act like a man for once instead of a mouse.
Grand Jury testimony is private and privleged and can only be introduced at trial. That said, while they would not call him out on the record today if that is the case. You can bet they will give him enough rope.. as they say and if he impeaches it will allow exactly what he does not want, I still say these baffoons think they will get out of testifying at trial .
B
Thanks Blink….I hear ya..and I agree..the A’s think they are above testifying at the trial, exactly the same way they felt above giving a depo to Morgan…there was no mystery behind why Cindy had to have a county limo ride and nice lady with a badge escort her into court yesterday. The State is making it known the A’s ain’t weaseling out of this deal..come hell or high water. I think we have had hell in this case..and the high water when it receded gave up Caylee’s remains.
The A’s are gonna have to do what they are told to do from here on out. And yep..I bet George makes some mistakes this afternoon. The clock is ticking.
Kleat #284. I too noticed that Cindy did not have her tape recorder in her possession today. Did she really think going in that she was still running the show and that she would be able to tape the proceeding and then turn it over to George or Lee. To me she still does not realize the gravity of the situation. It would seem to me that Conway and Baez would have both spoken to the A’s prior to this deposition and explained that you don’t fool around with this people.
Am constantly amazed at the arrogance of these people.
She must have hurried home and wrote everything down, so George would know exactly what to answer.
I’ve reread most of the posts and this last one has me with Blink stating that this will not be the last time we hear the phrase spoken by Cindy to George “When are you going to stop acting like a cop and start acting like a Dad!!!”.
I know that George apparently went off on Casey, but I don’t understand why we will be hearing this again. Do you think that the defense will use it by stating that George was mentally abusing Casey, that he hadn’t been there for her. Between having the gun and that statement it sounds like George truly believed Casey had done something to Caylee. My only hope is that he finally admits it(under oath) and that justice for Casey will prevail.
Interesting to read several comments bringing up the Tiffany Ring of Casey’s. For some reason I always felt that was what George and Cindy found the weekend of July 3rd doing the yardwork. Just a hunch though..nothing else.
Lyon and Baden might be the lead counsel according to the coutts, but I am betting that Casey only trust Baez because he is the only one she trusts (can manipulate). If Lyon and Baden don’t toe Casey’s line, they will be gone, gone, gone.
#250 – Blink
I disagree that George cleaned the car. His EZ-Pass records show he left immediately for work at his employer’s main offices, and then several hours later left those offices to his assignment at the movie theater.
In all honesty, after reading the multiple FBI and OCSO CSI reports on the trunk, if it was cleaned, it was a pretty poor job. I am not convinced that any Anthony went into cover-up mode on the 15th of July. Cindy was first to do so, but it was not until OCSO arrested KC and she (Cindy) suddenly realized what was REALLY going down.
JWG, your never wrong, so I will take the lump on this, but my notes say George hit the easy pass mark around (I am remote so I cant access my file, going from memory) 5:50PM that day. They got back to the house with the car around 2PM. What did he do from 2 – 5:50? I agree however that I do not think that anyone went into coverup mode on the eve of 7/15. When I say clean, I mean, “Georgitize” it. I dont think he suspected his grandaughter was murdered and placed in the trunk. I do strongly believe though, that the Nanny story was well into circulation between Casey and Cindy prior to that. Possibly Lee, because I believe something was found in the yard on 7/3 that Casey had to explain and then quell somehow. All bets were off when the decomp was in that car. I dont believe Cindy thought Caylee was ever missing until Casey told her, and then I believe that 911 call is the only truth I have ever heard out of her mouth since.
B
When Cindy finally got Amy’s number and called her. Amy said that she would call her back. Do you think she called Casey to let her know that her mom was on her trail?
skeptic, I think there’s another thing and that is Casey targets people to manipulate, who she can easily manipulate, through promises or potential of sex, good times, or just that the people are nice, kindly and trusting, people she can figure out/read quickly.
I suspect that Casey does not trust Baez, she trusts that she can manipulate him (thinks she can) as she has something he really wants, and it’s not about her body this time, it’s the case and what he can get out of it, just like it’s what is driving her too (satisfaction continually from attention on ‘her’). I suspect also, that two very strong women, not only in appearance and presence, but in their professions too, being on her side is what Casey likes, but she might not like that they are not going to be easily controlled by a person like Casey except in the best interests of her case.
I think Casey will tread carefully around them to control herself or her distain for stronger personalities that she doesn’t yet know how to manipulate.
Joan– did you catch yesterday’s news broadcasts on CTV national station? The coverage of the 17 year old psychopath killer/puppeteer just named as she was sentenced as an adult. Amazing– same as Casey, except younger and the prosecutor’s motive theory was right, but not the whole story according to the interview of Pat Brown (which I can’t find online at their website! ) The convicted juvenile admitted what she did, as opposed to Casey, whose underlying motive is not quite the same. Both are said to have jealousy issues at the root of things, but really, this other juvenile wanted to use her b/f to kill her rival (whom she never even met) not because of the rivalry jealousy, but because (according to the criminal profiler PB), she wanted to show the world what kind of power she had over her boyfriend, so much so, that he would kill for her, at her direction.
I think that PB interview would add some insight into our general understanding of psychopaths/sociopaths too, because PB talked about what will happen when this convicted murderer now goes to jail, and how she will manipulate her own little world in there, learn more social skills and become even better at what she does.
Interesting too, is the interview with her mother present, and how the mother, an opposite of Cindy Anthony in her demeanor and aggression, shows the same support of her daughter by trying to explain away her statement of guilt by changing the ‘intent’ of what her daughter just said.
These young killers have been enabled to do what they do, by their families from a young age. PB also does not agree that this begins at a later age, but that the personality disorders are formed early, 6-8 years of age. It would be very interesting to watch this PB interview with the purpose of understanding both of these young women and how they manipulate and why they kill.
The big difference of course, is our judicial system, not only no DP, but this young killer will be able to apply for parole in 7 years and likely will get out, like Carla Homolka, who played the system and got away with murder because she played the victim of her husband too.
When this young woman gets out of prison, which she surely will in the future, she will be better and more adept than ever, in her manipulations, and will still have the need for the power she got from having a boyfriend kill a child for her.
Maybe Dana Pretzer will do an interview to cover the sociopath/psychopath personality to help us understand more about Casey and this other young killer. (we didn’t know her name until yesterday– courts protected that).
It is so important to understand if these people can be cured, especially if they are going to be released again into society and lack of understanding of the psychopath, was really clear in the victim’s family’s statement yesterday, which hoped for a cure of this killer, to become a balanced and productive member of society in the future. Can they be cured? (experts say no apparently)
They are so distructive on so many levels for their own greedy needs.
Blink
do you ever think charges will happen against the Anthony’s????? how can George keep 5 stories straihgt {FBI interview, Police interview, ZG Depo, GJ testimony and Depo today} Cindy (5) {FBI interview, Police interview, 911 calls, ZG Depo and Depo yesterday} thats one hell of a story to keep straight????? your thoughts…..
Right now the State needs their testimony more than they need to charge them, if indeed that is their intention. There is zero doubt in mind they are holding that card until Baez starts up the bus.
B
Yes, Kleat, I read about it on the internet this morning. Had not prev. heard about it. It truly shocked me at the time, but as you stated it’s the manipulation and where they learn this from. I heard her parents were loving, hard working people, but that she had self -esteem issues. The worst was that apparently she did know this person, but it was the manipulation of the boyfriend that was needed. Again, she has shown no remorse. I feel for the parents of this child but at least they have not try to cover up and lie for their daughter.
I am a mother of two grown daughters and 3 grandchildren. I cannot say for a fact what I would do in these mothers situations, but I could not lie for them. It would kill me probably, but I would make them own up and be responsible for their actions. I would always love them, but I could never see myself pulling a Cindy.
I only hope that I would never have to be tested in that way.
oh shoot and all the super star interviews #’s ????????
yes, again Karla Homolka got away with it by making a deal with the police. Actually, the police in that case ended up in Ottawa, where I live. He killed her sister while she watched. Her parents have been through hell and back but still love her, but they didn’t pull any of the Anthony’s bull. They suffered in silence.
the state has the A’s between a rock and a really hard place finally it seems. Baez got his dig into Mn’M by comparing today’s hearing as finally lawyers doing what they should do, respectful etc, not like the ‘frivolous suit’. They can’t be bothered with ZG or what their client has done to that woman, or even to the people wronged in the fraud cases.
Right, double standards.
(sounds like Baez was publicly criticizing his lawyer colleagues for not being respectful etc, and that is a no-no and unprofessional behaviour in some bar associations)
296 Blink
Not to beat a dead horse, but Mark NeJame agreed to represent George and Cindy on 9/3, not 8/3.
http://www.nejamelaw.com/mark-nejame-in-the-news/mark-nejame-in-the-news.htm
lol, can you tell I am responding remotely? I would thwack me if I were another poster, lol. Let me try this again. Your right. I am making the point that George met with Mark alone 9/1, with Cindy 9/2 and the announcement 9/3. George sought Mark’s counsel on his own, I find that relevant.
And as hard as you work to keep your facts straight and educate Blink readers, it is never a dead horse to call me out when Im wrong
Blinkbiscuits for Maura
297 Kosmo
Try a Google search for “Casey Anthony November 26 discovery.”
#295- Munchausen by proxy syndrom is actually what this disorder is called and it is a situation where a person (care giver) causes his/her charge to become sick and then they( the care giver ) gets sympathy from the doctors and nurses all the while they are causing the illness to begin with. This is usually seen with mother/child situations. Mom makes the child sick takes them to the ER and mom gets all kinds of attention because she has such a sick child. Poor mommy she has such a hard time and all.
I have been a lurker on this site for about three weeks now. I love it. Also appreciate the keeping it civil attitude of Blink. Give me the facts and keep the name calling out of it.
Joan, shocking that the lawyers for Homolka and hubby torture and killing duo, could keep that video tape the couple made of their torture sessions physically hidden in the house behind a cupboard or in an attic space or behind a wall, ignoring it’s presence until Karla had been found a victim of ‘battered’ wife syndrome. With that video showing Carla clearly involved not as a victim in any sense, she was free and clear with 12 years, could attend one of Canada’s more prestigious universities and earn a degree from prison, and now she’s well protected from scrutiny– done her time, can do what to whomever she pleases once again. No chance that tape can surface if she becomes active again (PB interview claimed she would re-offend) because it was ordered destroyed so that it could never be seen to re-victimize the families again.
My dutiful blinkers are veering. Affectionately requesting we stay on topic for this article.
B
I read a very interesting blog regarding the civil trial vs. criminal trial.
http://elfninosmom.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/constitutional-issues-in-casey-anthony-fraud-trial/
(I’ll quote so I don’t get it mixed up in translation)
“The accused’s right to a speedy trial is guaranteed by the Sixth Amendment to the US Constitution, but nowhere does the US Constitution guarantee any such right to victims. The accused may waive their constitutional right to a speedy trial, at their option”
I wonder if silverspn has an opinion if this will be a problem for the prosecution?
Do you think that Casey put all her hope in having that car stolen from Amscot, thus having an alibi when and if the car ever was recovered? Also, with her psychological profile, I’m surprised she didn’t incinerate the vehicle
Sorry Blink, got carried away. There are some similarities to Casey’s case as I truly believe that should she be let go, that she would do this again. Their is no conscience, no remorse. You stated that even Troy Padilla spent time with her to see if she was suicidal and left feeling that there was no chance of that. Everyone in that house has said she never mentioned Caylee.
Just one more thing, I would have loved to have had your impressions on the Karla Homolka case. That’s it. Not another word. Back on track.
Again, I apologize.
Apolly accepted, I truly do not see a single similarity in these cases or perps, although I admit they may have the common denominator of sociopathy; but in that case, was mostly sexually motivated. But any forensic psychologist will tell you that is a dramatically overused term in practical application and there are many “splinters” of the condition. I guess I have learned my fear in all this, is that instead of people LEARNING from our dear baby Caylee’s death, the stone throwing at her family for some will be enough. If it is, the cycle is never broken- This little cherub did not know her Mother was a monster. She did not know her capabilities that would end her life.
B
Blink~~~~ Any word on a tentative trial date? Is it still too optimistic that it won’t happen this Fall? Really, how long will this take to come to trial now?
And, IMO, doesn’t matter how much more legal manuvering Baez attempts to orchestrate before the Courtroom doors open or even during trial.
Casey’s Goose is cooked.
RIP Caylee Marie
For which trial? Economic or Murder?
B
Also, will Casey be sentenced to the maximum penalty under the law for her felony forgery charge?
No, she won’t. She has made restitution and she has no priors. That said, a felony conviction is a felony conviction and I still say done in the commision of her other charges, is an aggravator. Brilliant move on the State’s behalf.
B
313 Joan
If Amy had called Casey to warn her that Cindy was looking for her, it would have been in Casey’s AT&T records. It wasn’t.
Midwest Mom, I hope they can go ahead with the fraud case and also the ‘non-friviolous ZG defamation case’ as there are victims in these, and ZG only benefits if her name is cleared sooner than later.
But as for Caylee, she needs no rush now, just steady climbing to success by the prosecution team. Caylee’s family members are not on her side now, they need to help only the living and only because it’s their family member. Therefore, they are not interested in a speedy trial for any reason other than the accused’s best interests.
Latest is speculated (wftv) that the prosecution may be looking towards learning how hostile, if at all, the Anthony’s will be towards the prosecution as they are witnesses for the prosecution. Lee tomorrow, George next week– that seems to tell me something about the concerns of the prosecutors, by the order of appearance, wouldn’t you think? More concerned about the Cindy-Lee team, than the George-Cindy team.
I think George could wear a very different hat next week– he could stand up for his granddaughter as he has nothing left but to do that. (jmho)
To 323, karen657-
You are correct.
But traditionally, a Munchausen has meant a liar. and not just a liar, but an outrageous liar.
I do think this is how she was using it.
The clip is really interesting…I think it was early on in the case, and she pulls no punches. She says that Cindy and Casey are lying, and that Caylee is dead.
The real Baron Munchausen was considered the the world’s greatest liar…
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1302&dat=19321130&id=hKcQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=PpYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6695,6449038
Sorry for veering Blink– took my eyes off the road for a second there.
No Prob, enjoy the alignment
B
#325-Midwest Mom
Doesn’t that just make you sick. Everything is to protect the accused, never the victim. Some victims never even get their day in court – plea bargaining, etc.
The most stellar behavior I have EVER seen from the family of an accused was the behavior of the Hacking family. They handled themselves with dignity and grace, yet NEVER ONCE protected Mark from the truth of what he had done. I wish the Anthony family would take notice of that instead of their nasty and attacking behavior.
Picking up on JWG’s reference to Epass records (I never think to check those).
The date and time stamp on the release form filled out by Johnson’s Wrecker (indicating the $466 had been paid) is July 15, 1355 hours (1:55pm). It was only then that Simon Burch unlocked the gate and allowed George into the lot to get the Pontiac. George and Simon opened the car door, then opened the trunk, then tried to start the car, then put gas in the car, then started the car and drove to the office. When George reached the office, he stopped and had a brief conversation with Cindy, telling her about the garbage bag and the smell. All that had to have taken 10 minutes after the release was signed, so they were not leaving Johnson’s until about 2:05pm.
George and Cindy then drove the car home. Mapquest puts the travel time at seven minutes (7777 Narcoossee to 4937 Hopespring). So it was around 2:12pm when they pulled into the driveway.
George removed the battery so that Casey couldn’t swing by and drive off with the car and then washed up. Let’s say that took 10 minutes and now it was about 2:22pm.
George’s Epass records for July 15 show that he was on the toll road going through the SR 528 Airport (M) Lane 6 at 2:29pm, which is a good five minutes from the Anthony house.
As I see it, he did not have time to do anything other than remove the battery.
Ok, Ok I give, no more comments without workstation access for Blink, but I do have a question. How come you never return comment when I point out something to add to your point? Or in a very, very few cases, correct it?
Teasing, your an asset to the discussion and I am P O S I T I V E we have actually met and dont know it, or have one degree of seperation. Thank you for your dedication to truth and facts in Caylee’s case.
B
#302 susanm. I am also wandering about that email cindy was caught sending using casey name when annie d was visiting. Annie stated in her depo that casey screamed at cindy (hey do you kiss your momma with that mouth) when she caught cindy. I am really interested in who that email was sent to and why cindy was sending emails to someone using caseys name (while annie was there and standing over her).not sure we will ever know if casey takes a plea but I am curious.
#310 gypsyDD. Yeah I am also very curios about cindy questioning casey about “the ring”. I was thinking cindy had instructed casey to plant that ring somewhere to frame someone. I think cindy gave casey a lot of instructions (I was forced to follow a list) that casey did not follow.
Red ranger. From now on I will think of lee not as vader1 as it reads on his license plate but as Lord Dark Helmut, as in mel brooks parady of darth vader.
That has always caused me pain as well what caylees last thoughts were as her mother betrayed her love and her trust. I can see why after geo and cindy’s depo’s when JM exposed them to the public and exposed casey’s monstrous affect on these people, why the state of florida filed their DP motion. I have many prayers for the innocents that have been pulled into this that they are strong and get through this on behalf of caylee so that this will go to trial and all the anthonys will be expoosed and justice for caylee will be done.
Just saying hello. Reading and listening as I can. As always admiration for Blink and contributors.
Many thoughts/questions but I haven’t even finished the Annie Downing police interview. Listened to the ZG case first – regretably. And so much more to think about.
Re Kleat 314. Had to chip in. I am “vaguely” following the Cdn case you mentioned. I intend to listen to your clip. I was kind of blowing off Munchausens (sp) thinking of the by proxy part. Also paying scant attention to the other Ontario case. Bernardo/Homolka I spent quite a fair few hours on that.
Back to reading.
I went searching for the date florida filed the motion not to seek the dp as I had forgotten 12/5/08 and found this link. http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18213779/detail.html. Lots of good stuff to review here re. Timelines old reports and interviews etc. I went searching for this info cuz I remember thinking at the time what karma it was that caylee was found so soon after that motion was filed. I can see now that r kronk must have made it his mission to find caylee after that motion was filed. But at the time I always wondered if some deal had been struck, that if the state would not seek death, casey would disclose caylees location. But I do still wander if the anthonys themselves waited for that motion to be filed before disclosing her actual location (via a source) I keep thinking of that call from george to valencia on 12/11 when caylee was found. Just wanted to post that thought before I forgot.
In your opinion, do you believe Casey will be convicted? And also, do you think she has confided in Baez of her guilt, because if she has, I would think that other than trying to do the impossible of claiming her “innocence”, despite all of the evidence, he would be trying to orchestrate some sort of plea deal to ensure Casey doesn’t get the death penalty. Your thoughts? Thanks Blink
If they are dumb enough to go to trial I believe she will be convicted and receive the death penalty, yes.
However, I believe when Lyon fails at her bids to pull the DP, she will plea.
B
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Victim vs. accused? I hope I am never in the position to find out which is fair. I can say that if I was an accused I would NOT want the information that is on my computer to be analyzed and be used in favor of my guilt. Just this case alone I have had to look up some pretty disgusting info.
And I am probably not the person to ask that question to anyways. I have been up front that I have not convicted Casey. Mainly because her demeanor wasn’t that of a mother who’s child was missing but that of a mother who knew whom her child was with.(and many other differences in perception) And I often think what Cindy says and does reflects as if it was Casey that was responding.
I am confused on the article, wasn’t there a confidentiality agreement between Tony Padilla and Baez? And I thought I remember something about Baez indirectly brought out Tony via a friend in NY? (I may be wrong about that)
I guess I am not getting the attorney/client privilege and how it applies to Tony, Leonard, Tracy and Rob. Was Casey talking to them thinking that it was privileged when in fact it was not?
kosmo
this is where I found the conversaions between casey and tony
http://www.docstoc.com/search/casey-anthony-case/?catfilter=1
Kleat,
Fyi, you mentioned notebooks in one of your post- microsoft onenote is awesome, you can have as many notebooks as you want(cases), then on top you have tabs (names of players, tv interviews, then you have tabs down the side also. If you copy a phone number it automatically paste the link to the web page, and to reference it again all you have to do is click from your notebook. It can copy and paste pics and videos also.
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Well now I’m feeling contrite because you gave me Blinkbiscuits earlier today.
You are correct that I don’t respond often often to your return comments to me, but that’s because I generally think of those comments as broadening the outlook or correcting a fact for the benefit of every reader.
But I promise right now to be a better guest on your website. After all, I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t like you even if we don’t always agree. Your theories are very thought-provoking, and I appreciate the time you put into this site and the opportunity you provide for the rest of us to wrestle with theories and argue about interpretations of the discovery details.
You are a welcome guest always and no contrition necessary, the Blinkbiscuits stand, you are 100% correct, I was just really trying to see if your really my old roomate from school who was always way smarter than me so when I could provide a fact she was unaware of she would say “Hey even a blind squirrell finds a nut every now and then.” Teehee.
On a serious note, I think and work better with respectful dissention. I would never want a “yes Blink” site. Learning new angles, different purviews on cases from you and the other (borrowing a term from Nancy-) rocketscientists on here and the SM forum is why I do this. This many people of like minds standing for Caylee gives me hope for her justice and peace for her little soul.
B
I am REALLY confused.. One of you rocket scientists please tell me what case these Anthonys are giving statements on?
I thought it was the check charges?
Why are they all going back to the prosecutors please!!!!????
OH and Blink you don’t play fair.
I asked about 4 different questions or thoughts that I had and all you can say is….
YEP
B ??? wth? hehehe
Did Cindy really drive by the East Colonial Amscot on her way to work?
The Mapquest distance from the Anthony house to Gentiva by the most direct route is 16 minutes, 8.75 miles and completely bypasses Amscot because she’d never be driving on East Colonial. That route goes from Chickasaw to Curry Ford to Semoran (Cindy works on Semoran).
The Mapquest distance from the Anthony house by a route includes the East Colonial Amscot intersection and then continues to Gentiva is 20 minutes, 11.06 miles. That route goes from Chickasaw to Goldenrod to East Colonial to Semoran.
I don’t understand why anyone would take a longer route than necessary, but I am hoping someone who reads here and lives in Orlando might know if the shorter route is more prone to traffic congestion and that is why Cindy might add a few miles to her commute.
Anyone know?
I hope a true local weighs in, but I actually drove that as an exercise when I was in Orlando, my guess is she is like Mr. Blink and loathes traffic and will add exponential time to a commute rather than sit in it
B
Blink once suggested that the bus (driver, who else but Baez) was coming, and the target is George and Cindy to take the blame for Caylee’s death.
In a WESH article, defense lawyer Hornsby agrees with Blink:
“Cindy Anthony is a witness for both sides. Hornsby said he believes that she’s critical to the state’s theory of motive, but he thinks Baez may make her the bad guy to prove that Casey Anthony isn’t guilty.
“I think he’s going to,” Hornsby said. “She’s a perfect person for the villain character. I don’t think the jury’s going to warm to her.”
In the rule of the legal profession, is Baez allowed to speak to the Anthony’s (Mr. Conway’s clients) without going through Conway? That would not be allowed here, where a represented person can not be contacted or spoken to, by lawyers who know that person is represented. Baez is holding his position close to the Anthony’s, going to lunch, buddy-buddy like and maybe Cindy and George (and Lee) contact him directly with Conway’s blessing?
What happens if this is allowed and then Baez turns on the Anthony’s? As Blink and Hornsby think is going to be the case? If the Anthony’s do plan this with Baez, the jury could find out and it could backfire as a ploy to fool them about who is guilty. I think this may work at least in the sentencing phase, but get Casey off??
Kleat, I stand by my position that Baez is going after the A’s when Lyon exhausts her Motions that this case does not meet the criteria for a DP case and of course it’s use as a tactic by the state(*cough*).
However, I am sure you noted after I saw the A’s motion to suppress Caylee’s autopsy, I am 1000% certain it ia a collusive effort with the A’s unofficial participation. They are not going to make it from the looks of Cindy yesterday, she looked like a human raisin to me.
B