Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Baez Motionfest in Court This Morning
Orlando, FL– If yesterday’s antics at the press conference of attorney for the search group Texas Equusearch, Mark Nejame, were a precursor to this mornings motions hearing, it should prove to be a long day.
Exactly what pending motions are slated to be heard as there are several before the court at this time, remains to be seen, however, all have been initiated on behalf of the defense team Jose Baez and Andrea D. Lyon.
It is presumed the court will hear: Motion to delay the economic charges against Casey Anthony, motion response on behalf of TES Founder Tim Miller to be certified as a witness in the criminal case, Motion of 90 pages regarding evidence tested by the FBI (insert yawn). Motion regarding Anthony Lazzaro phone records, motion regarding Dominic Casey records and motion to preclude Leonard Padilla, Tony Padilla, Tracy Mclaughlin and Rob Dick from testifying as prosecution witnesses. Motion for anything I forgot.
Strap in. Ride starts at 9:30AM EST, live feed here:
Mark Nejame, Todd Macaluso, Andrea Lyon Argue TES Motion
First Up-Mark Nejame vs. Andrea Lyon TES motion 10:18 AM
White shoes. Repeat. White shoes in court. Got the petty out of the way, thanks for indulging me.
Mark presents to his Honor, Stan Strickland, the vast problematic issues with a broad request, which could encompass 4000 different individuals.
Andrea Lyon argued this is not a fishing expedition, it is the equivalent of the defense relying on the “Trust Me” argument on behalf of the state. They are not looking to expose people’s personal information. Ms. Lyon went on say the defense is willing to hang out at Mark’s office until they get what they need.
Judge Strickland in recent receipt of the answer, deferring ruling upon review in short order.
Jose Baez Argues Tony Lazzarro phone records
Baez argues Lazzarro was served, and that the motion has been narrowed and only received response yesterday at 4PM.
AttorneyJay, for Tony Lazzarro, argues he was not served either, was notified by a third party as to ammended motion. Jay agrees to requesting the 6 week period of records from AT &T, but is not optimistic he will be able to. Furthermore, the materiality of the defense request post July 15, 2008, has not been shown. All communication had ceased by then.
Judge Strickland grants a portion of the defense request, June 1 through September 2008, within 30 days.
Jose Baez Argues Motion to Preclude Leonard, Tony, Tracy and Rob
Baez calls George Anthony. Casey begins weeping openly. George discusses his interaction with the team.
Linda points out Mr. Padilla puts up $50k bond, so how is it he was unaware that his intention was to find his grandaughter. George is doubletalking that they volunteered to provide security only once she was out. Jim Campbell, was the retired LE officer was staying at the home at the time. Mr. Baez had to be present when any person spoke to Casey or was around her, if he were not, a family member had to be present at all times.
George states he knew nothing about the privacy arrangements they agreed to. Linda pointed out there were several people that could have transported Casey back and forth, and that they requested this service.
Ms. Drane Burdick presented the audio interviews of Leonard, Rob, and Tracy, about 3 hours worth which the Judge will review. She requested an original copy of the signed agreements for all parties.
*Secret*.. What Baez presented as the true and correct copies of the executed agreements by all parties is NOT.. Ms. Burdick is aware of this
Judge Strickland points out that Baez has had well over a year to file a temporary restraining order as Padilla as he has been “breaking that agreement” all over TV under this argument.
Ms. Drane Burdick argued Baez motion is essentially a gag order, and their has been no agency established, they posess the burden to establish privlege in the first place.
Oral agreement was hatched upfront between all parties, and prior to the written agreement. The agreement to provide security was a condition of posting the bond in the first place.
BAM… What I eluded to, Tony Padilla did not SIGN that agreement in the motion. Hello, Florida Bar, please hold…
I am intentionally shortening this segment, The State ate his lunch, and I have no clue why, but ruling deferred.
Motion to Determine a Trial Date Check Fraud
The state argues the check issues are relegated to specific dates and feels although witnesses may overlap, there is not an issue as to hearing testimony in the murder case. Baez is the only attorney on the docket of the case. The victim, Amy Huizenga, is asserting her right as a victim for the matter to be concluded. As an alternative, the State advises they are willing to go the bench trial route, which would allay the concerns altogether.
Ms. Lyon argues it is not their position it should never be tried and it is the states fault for seeking the death penalty in the murder case. Ms. Lyon sugested the state postpone the check fraud charges 60–90 days behind the murder charge.
Judge Strickland is considering this ruling as well
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PINK, remembering what Cindy told Tim Miller in her voicemail, as her position of no one can win if they want to try to ‘go to war’ with the Anthony family. She believes in her power.
question that will never get answered but i’ll ask anywayze. how big of trouble is jose biaz going to be in..if that was not a real document and he brang it into court saying it was a real but something he made up? If this is made up by his own mind how can they let him get away with it? as i’ve read it isn’t the right and proper document so isn’t that really bad what he did?
Get inside the minds of the defense?? lol
Creating reasonable doubt…
http://www.wesh.com/news/20535221/detail.html
Norm, maybe it WILL be answered. Even if it’s ‘splained’ away for the time being, it’s a serious allegation and just ‘one more’ (to use Baez’s analogy) ”kitchen sink’ on the pile of problems for him.
# 402 Norm
He can always claim that it was a mistake, he couldn’t find the original , a clerk messed it up, a clerk lost it… yadda, yadda. He appears to use his bumbling actions, as did Peter Faulk in the role of “Columbo”, to ‘get over’ at times. At other times, I believe he is truly bumbling.
If the judge rules against the suppression of testimony before the ‘original’ is produced to the SA, it may be a moot point. I don’t know if the judge is awaiting the original to make a decision, anyone? But if the ‘original’ contract is grossly different, it could be a big problem for him. I would wager he will blame it on someone in his office, if there is a difference.
However, the incident will likely still be submitted to FL Bar, and it doesn’t look good if you have a pile of actions that hint at improprieties.
To BwCoat’s post just an additional observation:
What did George Anthony get when he told Sgt. John Allen to ‘Take your F***’n flunkies and get out of here’??? George, by Dominic Casey’s own admission, received an offer of Sgt. Allen’s extended hand to shake– a universal sign of friendship, diplomacy, and in this case, George’s verbal abuse met as well, by compassion.
Gawwwd… the woodwork is crawling and the crawlies are spilling over now!!
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20533041/detail.html
BrowncoatWhit: I like your style…
hey Norm, I will answer your question. Yes, that IS really bad, what he did. Will he get into trouble for it? He should. But, if it’s just one guy’s word against the other’s, maybe not. How do they prove it either way? Unless the “signing party” made a copy of the actual document that he DID sign, which he should have, or there was a witness to the document that he actually did sign. If there is a way for them to actually prove that Biaz tampered with that document or “added” a page in between (which seems to be what he probably did), then I would say, in MY opinion, he should be in BIG trouble, and should not be able to practice law any more.
kleat, and the white mercedes is still missing, and they don’t know where he murdered her (that’s for the U.S. investigation of course, not canada)
kleat, you cute thing, i know you weren’t giving kudos to a different murderer, lol. just struck me funny to use him as what seemed like an example of a more respectful way to murder someone you love. ok, it’s still cracking me up! (sorry…mea culpa!)
Someone please tell me what Baez can possibly be thinking by now saying Casey was in jail when the body was placed in the woods, hence, she is innocent. He claims to have evidence and proof to support that theory. Well, then why not present that NOW to the prosecution and the DA? If that is true, why leave his client in jail until the trial to “present” this evidence that his team claims they have? I have never seen liars as prevelant as these guys. Casey, her family, and her entire “dream team”!
What’s humorous is Baez calling the forensics “junk science”. Since when did Baez become the “McGuyver” of knowledge and experience?
hey WSH, wesh has a story with Tony Padilla’s side of things up now. He signed nothing that made him part of the defense team, and also, he says Baez did not want them to be part of the defense team.”
Also, just on the ‘common sense’ test– a bondsperson, putting up moula to say that they will assume a risk to assure this person would appear, would not take off– how could that bondsman or anyone putting up a surity on the bond, be part of the ‘defense’ of the person they hold a bond ‘against’? If that person flees, what do they do IF part of the defense team?? That seems a great conflict of their own interests– if that’s the case, the lawyer should post the bond and surity, if no conflict of interest (same difference– someone would have to work against the client if they decided to miss an appearance).
link please
B
LOOK AT THIS! Inmate knows who killed Caylee…… and it’s NOT casey!
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-inmate-letter-caylee-anthony-082409,0,5774161.story
Has anyone seen this?
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20533041/detail.html
(For all I know, this could be old news.) This is a PDF link to a letter purportedly written by someone who knows who the “real killer” of Caylee is. The letter writer is obviously pointing to Tony Lazzaro.
This letter is so suspiciously melodramatic. Thoughts?
#404 mjh
Browncoatwhit: I second that….
#405, myself: Never mind, I just read that the guy is in prison & has a long history of mental illness. My bad.
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I have to follow up with something. The comment in an earlier post referencing a girl that let this case go to her head is not “Blink”. It was somebody else.
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Lol, you got that right tp.. He is such a friend. He told me today he rearead that and was concerned people would think it was me. As if..
B
Blink, forgive me if this has already been addressed. I am inquiring as the plausibility and/or legality of the defense switching gears. I thought that it was already a signed affadavit by Casey herself claiming the nanny and only the nanny “did it”. Since that has not panned out due to her ineffective lying, they have turned their accusations and mud throwing to the first ex, Jessie, and now, Tony L. How is this not drawing immense scrutiny and criminality implications from the judge? Why are they even entertaining Baez and his new “theories”? It seems as though they feel allowed to erase all initial claims and signed documents since they didn’t pan out, and now they can start over?
More T padilla:
Q: Grund….
Why do you not like hiim but think KC is okay, since she is accused of killing her daughter? Not meaning to sound mean, just wondering.
TP:No comment whatsoever about Richard/Reverand Grund!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So more talking about it!!
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Q : But, mailing you a copy is STILL JB’s job.
TP:I was never even served notice regarding the motion which should have been done.
Q : I noticed you mentioning this before. I don’t understand how trying to arrange a bail in FL could get you arrested. Either you can or you can’t. ?? Is there some sort of law that you didn’t know about until then?
TP: That is a great story all on its own that I will get into in depth when my book comes out.
Tony Padilla states That NO ONE received a copy of the contract. Makes it tougher to dispute.
Q:If you could ask any of the parties in this any question, who and what would it be?
TP:The problem with this is “WHO WOULD TELL THE TRUTH?” But if the person I was asking had to tell the truth or I knewe I was getting the truth it would be to ask Casey what happened?
Boz, on the Jenkins woman helper, we now know that they knew each other, so maybe she was not in danger as a hostage– someone helping him probably knowingly, those facts will come out. Unlike what was on NG tonight by one of her ‘experts’, they do NOT ask her to call in. (and she was tall, not ‘small’) I expect she can be contacted by RCMP through her lawyer– no doubt.
Ok guys, I have to kill the o/t.. With respect, I am not covering that case.
B
Personally I do not care for the name calling, silly pictures and parodies, that I see sometimes on other blogs. I usually just ignore them and frequent the sites where the moderator discourages them. Having said that…what I care for even less…are folks who write long winded, condecending, and self-righteous comments calling other out on things they find offensive. JMO
gotcha Blink, sorry.
But to the link you did want– here’s the link to Tony Padilla/not part of Baez defense team story I referred to in Post 414:
http://www.wesh.com/news/20535221/detail.html
(they’ve also added a video, but it’s not covering the same things as the text story– but of interest also as TP speaks about Casey and her demenour in the home, and comments added by legal analyst at the end.
http://www.wesh.com/news/20535221/detail.html)
sorry you all, i suppose I should start reading previous entries before restating an earlier inquiry
it would seem to me that Baez and team have started to coach Casey extensively, trying to make her more “presentible” and “human”, trying to win any possible remaining sympathy, hence no makeup, newly acquired “watering eyes”, etc. In my opinion, starting to hone their skills at working over the future jury
Tommie, I didn’t mean to offend, nor come across as condescending or self-righteous. I’ll keep my negative reactions to myself in the future.
I thought it was fair and “real”. Tommie attacked the poster and not the post. Not cool. If you would not say it to respected friend or colleague, dont say it here. That’s the standard.
B
To all who read that Casey/L7Tone chat-
Tell me if you have also read Casey’s Cupid.com profile– and do not see that as additional evidence of PREMEDITATION.
Here is what I mean by that:
Casey set up a profile on a public dating website in which she depicted herself as a straight-laced, young, caring mom.
This was during the time period that she was involved with/about to be involved with a number of men on an “intimate” (to put it nicely) basis.
I do not believe that she created that profile to meet anyone.
I believe she created that profile to act as her own “character witness.
To me– that Cupid.com profile spells P R E M E D I T A T I O N.
Her tears have only been for HERSELF.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1855060/Casey-Anthony-Cupid-Profile
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1855152/More-Casey-Anthony-cupid-Profile
http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/casey-anthony-cupid-profile/
Here is a bit of the transcript from Greta on August 21,2008, describing Casey being released on bond by team Padilla:
“When Leonard arrived here, he initially said, I’m going to get the answers, I’m going to find out what happened to that girl, Caylee. Well, now Jose is coming out and saying he’s instructed his client — he can’t talk to the Padillas. He cannot talk to them whatsoever. She’s going to now have to only talk to her parents and him. ***The Padillas are only there to protect the bond which they’ve posted.”***
Also this video clip of Born in a Barn Baez speaking about the conditions for Team Padilla:
“(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
JOSE BAEZ, CASEY ANTHONY’S ATTORNEY: First of all, they will not have access to her. They just have one person who’ll be staying in the home. They are not to question her. I have specific instructions for the bondsman and the bounty hunters, and they are not to question her in any shape or form. And my client knows. My client is not a fool. She knows that she is not to speak with these people.”
Hmmmm….does that sound like Jose KNOWS there is NO attorney/client privilege here?????
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,407742,00.html
Good observations, silverspnr– yes, that makes sense. She’s almost perfect, sounds like she’s fitting the perfect profile her mother has of her daughter except that Cindy thought her smile was her best attribute.
362 Lily
I think you are misinterpreting the forensics in the report submitted by The Body Farm.
The Body Farm report said the chemical signature of the air sample taken from the trunk of the Pontiac was consistent with a decompositional event having an estimated postmortem interval (PMI) of 2.6 days. That means the respective chemical levels in the trunk were consistent with the chemical levels that a body would be releasing 2.6 days after death where a day is defined as an Accumulated Degree Day (ADD). They knew the body had not been decomposing very long when it was last in the trunk because they didn’t find chemicals in the air sample that are only released in later stages of decomposition.
An ADD is the accumulation of average daily temperatures in Celsius over time. The average daily temperature is calculated by adding the high temperature and low temperature, dividing the sum by two, and applying that temperature for the entire 24 hours of one day. In Orlando on June 16, 17, and 18, the average daily air temperatures were 26.7C, 27.2C, and 27.7C, so for that entire three-day period (72 hours), the ADDs added up to 81.6 (Celsius). That would have been the calculation used had they assumed the body had decomposed outside in the air. But for purposes of estimating the PMI based on the trunk air sample, the scientists at The Body Farm assumed the body had been in the trunk from the point of death, so they used a higher average daily temperature of 35C (95F) to account for the fact that the temperature in the car trunk would have been higher than the temperature of the air outside the trunk.
As the scientists noted, the calcium-to-magnesium ratio in the trunk’s air sample was 5:1, a ratio that typically occurs at 90 Accumulated Degree Days (ADDs). If the body had been in the trunk for three full days (72 hours), the ADDs for the period that the body had been in the trunk would have totaled 105 (35 degrees Celsius per day x 3 days). Since the 5:1 calcium:magnesium ratio occurs at 90 ADDs, that meant that if the body had been in the trunk since the point of death, that the body had been in the trunk for fewer than three days because 90 is less than 105. 90 is 85.7% of 105, and 85.7% of 72 hours is 62 hours. 62 hours equals 2.6 days.
The Body Farm scientists were very clear that the PMI was only a rough estimate, that it was based on the assumption that the body had been in the trunk for the entire (or nearly entire period decomposition), and that the trunk’s average daily temperature was 35 degrees Celsius, which was nothing more than a guess because they did not know what the temperature in the trunk had been. If Caylee was placed in the trunk very soon after she died and the average daily trunk temperature had been 113F, then the estimated PMI would have been exactly two (2.0) days.
The only way to halt decomposition would be to put the body in a deep freeze, and there is no indication of that although there were lots of theories that Casey put Caylee into the chest freezer in the Anthony garage (too wild and improbable for me).
A body doesn’t stop decomposing just because it’s buried although the rate of decomposition will be slowed down. How much slower (relative to decomposition in the air) will depend on the temperature of the soil and the amount of water in the soil that the body is exposed to. If you’re going to assume that the body was buried for a while somewhere before being transferred to the trunk for a long enough period of time for the trunk air to fill with decomposition gases, then at the very least, you’ll have to decide how deeply the body was buried, what the average soil temperature was at that depth in Orlando in June for the burial location, and then calculate the ADDs for those temperature and duration combinations so that they work out to 90 for the final period of time that Caylee’s body was in the trunk.
Just read her profile. She was eating freezer pops then too! lol
Just read more of it. And she was earning $25,000-35,000 a year. Silly us for wondering where she was getting her money!
For instance . . .
Let’s assume Caylee died on the afternoon of June 16 around 3:00pm. Casey put the body in the laundry bag, then put Caylee in the trunk.
Casey returned to the Anthony house on June 17 in the afternoon because Brian Burner saw her backing the Pontiac into the garage and because her cell pings place her in the area of the residence from 2:30-4:05pm. We know she was in the house using the laptop and downloading the June 15 video clip from the camera, but let’s say she also placed Caylee and the laundry bag into the garbage bags and sealed them with duct tape.
The Accumulated Degree Day was an estimated 35 because Caylee had been in the trunk the whole time with a BF estimated average temperature of 95F / 35C.
She left Caylee (wrapped in plastic) inside the trunk for another 24 hours until she returned on the afternoon of June 18 and borrowed the shovel.
That additional 24 hours in the trunk was another 35, so now we’re up to 70 ADDs. We don’t want to go over 90 ADDs because we want the air sample in the trunk to have the 5:1 calcium:magnesium ratio, which occurs at 90 ADDs.
The average groundwater temperature in central Florida is 72F / 22.2C. Let’s assume the surrounding soil is the same temperature. A full 24-hour period buried in that soil would add up to 22.2 and we only have another 20 to use.
That means if Caylee was buried, she was buried for less than 24 hours before Casey exhumed the body and placed it in the trunk for a long enough period of time for the chemicals consistent with 90 ADDs to be released into the air of the trunk before the body was taken to the wooded lot.
We know Casey did not return to the Anthony house on June 19. Her cell pings put her at Tony’s until early afternoon. They went apartment hunting in the late afternoon, then returned to his apartment. Moreover, George’s timecard indicates he did not work on Thursday, June 19, and a 4:48pm call from the Anthony landline to Gentiva confirms that he was at the house since Casey pinged a Tony tower when she received two text messages four minutes later at 4:52pm.
Casey returned to the Anthony house on Friday, June 20, but she was only there for less than 30 minutes. Her pings hit Anthony towers from 1:44-1:53pm, and she was back at Tony’s by 2:18pm.
At any rate, we can use different estimates for the temperature of the Pontiac trunk and for the soil temperature, but The Body Farm’s estimate of 95F (35C) for the trunk is very conservative IMO. An Orange County, FL public service announcement regarding ticketing for owners who leave animals in Florida cars noted that temperatures inside closed cars that are sitting under the Florida summer sun can reach 160F. Casey’s car was never garaged except for the few hours when she was at the Anthony house.
The soil temperature in Orlando in June is not going to much lower than 72F even at a depth of a couple of feet (surface temperature is close to air temperature), and I have seen no evidence that Caylee was buried, let alone that she was buried in a deep grave.
Blink,
With all due respect, (and I mean that sincerely) I did not “attack” the Poster anymore than he/she attacked the others in posts #374 & #399. Both posts were heartfelt, well written opinions…and I happen to completely agree with them in theory. The only problem I have (and this my opinion) is when someone takes the position of telling others how they “should” behave. We are all adults, and we all have our own ideals and way of being in this world…I simply do not think anyone has the right to chastise. That is all I was trying to say. And I most definately would & do say the same thing to my husband, daughters, family members and respected friends when it happens in my presence.
I love this blog and read it several times a day, and certainly do not want any hard feelings. Please accept my apologies…and from now on I will keep my opinions to myself as well, unless they pertain the case! Thanks…
Fair, and everyone- let’s not belabor this. My requested rules are known, let’s stay on point and we all grow from it. Hands down, this site has the best in class posters on the web, I love that y’all let me absorb some your cells via osmosis.
B
Clockwatcher, good find. Using the same link, farther down the page there’s even more to support what the Padillas have been saying too, PLUS, George Anthony didn’t know who paid the surity of 50 grand to get Casey out to help with Caylee’s rescue/return???? Not likely… It was in the reports like this one… he must have known who risked their pocketbooks. George knows so much more than he will admit.
From Clockwatcher’s Fox/Greta link (post #435)
—————
VAN SUSTEREN: Now, previously, you’ve told us that one of the reasons why you wanted to bail her out (INAUDIBLE) is because you thought that she would talk and help find her child and her child — whatever…
PADILLA: Exactly. Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: OK.
PADILLA: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Now, her lawyer says you’re not going to be able to talk to her, so now what?
PADILLA: She — I can’t question her, but if she wants to volunteer information, that’s up to her.
VAN SUSTEREN: And if she doesn’t, that sort of diminishes your very purpose of getting her out.
PADILLA: No, no, no. People that get bailed out usually have conversations. You don’t have to have a conversation about the case. You could have a conversation about anything you want.
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I guess I’m trying to understand, is usually people — usually, bondsmen get a fee. You’re not getting a fee at this time, right?
PADILLA: I’m not a bondsman. I’m the bounty hunter. I’m the guy that paid the fee. I paid it to my nephew.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. All right. So you’re out 50 grand?
PADILLA: I paid $50,000, yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: So your nephew is not going to give you that back.
PADILLA: No. He’s got his own family to support.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So what would possess you to pay 50 grand out of your pocket to your nephew to bail her out?
PADILLA: Because I think she has the information required to find the little girl. There’s a $250,000 reward out there, and every time I get on one of these programs, I want people to understand that the little girl can be dropped off at a drug store, and two days later, the guy can come in and claim the reward. And I’m not a cop. I’m, you know, not law enforcement. I’m not trying to make a case on it. Now, one of the early — one of the…
VAN SUSTEREN: But let me just — let me just (INAUDIBLE) Leonard.
PADILLA: Sure.
VAN SUSTEREN: Either you’re going to get your $50,000 back from that reward, or you’re going to eat $50,000, right?
PADILLA: Oh, I’m not going to eat $50,000. I’m…
VAN SUSTEREN: Where are you going to get it?
PADILLA: I’m a successful — I’m a successful bounty hunter, believe me. If I can get this little girl back and it only costs me $50,000, it’s worth it. Now…
VAN SUSTEREN: And if you can’t?
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Well, we know what happened to the 50 grand…. ouch!
Thanks Clockwatcher for the infor. Here is the video of Biaz stating explicitly those words. The prosecution should have just played the part where Biaz states in his own words exactly why the Padello team was there! Fax this over to the judge and he wont have to listen to the 3 hour disc. He can hear Biaz say it in his own words….
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3041955&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,407742,00.html
One thing I noticed at the Cupid site Casey has that is interesting to me is her under her hobby list she lists gambling right up at the top. Hmmmmm interesting. I thought George had the gambling habit (but he called it one of those Nigerian scam things later)….Very interesting that Casey’s hobbies are gambling and card playing.
I’m too tired to listen to another tape on this case…until tomorrow lol
blink, kleat – though it’s not being followed on this website per se, where the jenkins case mimics the caylee anthony case is that both bodies were in enclosed environments for a period of time (jenkins: the motel room; caylee: the car trunk), and the smell of death was quite noticeable & commented on (jenkins: the motel manager & his nephew – a very observant young man, I might add; caylee: both grandparents). the similarities don’t stop there: jenkins is every bit as narcissistic as casey, every bit as rage-filled, every bit as psychopathic. Yet, I was quite surprised to see that he committed suicide; I can’t conceive of casey as being suicidal. And it shows that it doesn’t take an expert, an RN, or a LEO to be able to recognize the stench of death and distinguish it from a pizza or a pizza box.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-inmate-letter-caylee-anthony-082409,0,5774161.story
this is a BS story,
“this will be the first and last time you hear from me, I will not reveal the name at this time” well then what was the point of the letter…?
“I am willing to tell you the name IF you contact me” what I thought you said you would not revela the name…why are you toying with us???
“I have 3 pictures of the victim” hmmmmm really can you have pics of other peoples kids that are not your own in prison, that dudes cell needs a serious shake down????
this has no merit….waste of time….
# 431-silversnr
“Tell me if you have also read Casey’s Cupid.com profile– and do not see that as additional evidence of PREMEDITATION.Here is what I mean by that: Casey set up a profile on a public dating website in which she depicted herself as a straight-laced, young, caring mom.”
On the other hand, silver, (playing devil’s advocate), she was living in a fantasy. She might have actually saw herself as such, on some level, and/or, it was a “G” rated site that she could allow her parents to view. It was another “net” to catch a different kind of guy who was looking for a ”nice girl’?
# 427
Thanks for the links Kleat.
# 435-clockwatcher
Blink-Anyone
Know if the State is able to submit further documentation to the judge at this point? If so, this a handy piece of testimony.
# 437-Maura
Maura
Can you think of any other variable that could ‘add up’ with ping data suggesting somewhere else for a time? For example, if Caylee could have been anywhere such as an off site air conditioned public storage facility, an abandoned building with a cooler basement , or stashed below a grouping of pine trees, etc. (I don’t live in FL, have never been, but while visiting GA, I noticed that even in the summer, while hiking, the temperature “feel” was lower under pines) ?
I am going to have to accept your analysis on the body farm calculations, because if I attempted to do so myself, without graphs, my head might explode.
Maura – thanks for the technical rundown of the decomp and the body farm analysis. I ‘think’ I understand it a little better.
I never really thought that Caylee was buried. I was trying to use the information you’ve provided in all of your summary analysis and back into June 23/June 24 – which is when Blink thinks Caylee was placed at the Suburban site. In the past I thought Casey was placed there earlier than that. I assume that Blink knows more than I do. Heck, I assume that EVERYONE knows more than I do!
What you’re saying is that the only way for that to have happened (June 23-24 body placement at Suburban) would be for the body to have been kept somewhere cooler – obviously not in the trunk the whole time. And I don’t think the Ant’s would have NOT noticed if Casey had hidden her in the house or in the backyard somewhere.
I appreciate your input always. This is why my analysis is amateur and I’m always learning when I come here!
It would be interesting to hear what you think the timeline is between the 16th and the date you believe Casey put Caylee’s body at Suburban and how you came to those conclusions. I really respect the outstanding amount of science you are able to understand and relay.