Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Brad, Baez and Baden Can’t Read
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Discovery Review Part I
Orlando, FL– In the last 2 weeks in the case against infamous tot-mom Casey Anthony, The defense appears to be in an all out media blitz to support their recent motions for dismissal. Most legal analysts feel they have missed the deadline for such tactics, and that could very well be the reason for the affront on public opinion recently.
The blinkoncrime.com editors have been scouring the recent discovery release.
There are some very compelling facts the Spin Twins de Baez have conveniently overlooked.
The Duct Tape
Reported exclusively at blinkoncrime.com last June, the Henkel Duck tape industrial grade was located on the skull of Caylee Marie, the gas can and the shed at the Anthony residence. Today, WFTV after rifiling through some old footage, reminds us what we already knew.
(Editors note: Say what you will about Kathy Belich, that Dom Casey cheat sheet with her picture and “disseminating hatred towards the family” remark had her in that news room with a whip and a hot iron all day until they found it– I don’t blame her.)
Yesterday at Brad Conway’s client driven press conference, he specifically referenced there are no fingerprints on the duct tape. I heard it again this morning by Linda Kenney Baden.
Let’s break this down folks, shall we?
On NO document, that we have seen, does it state anywhere that there are no prints on that duct tape. Specifically, I am referring to FBI Evidence ID Q62, Q63 and Q64.
In fairness to the defense, with a combined experience mean of 2o years in the “expert” fields, less Jose “josebgood@yahoo.com” Baezs’ token 3 years, I can see how such academics could come to that conclusion for the time being.
Within the response to Kenney Baden’s discovery request from the FBI, this statement appears:
THE FBI DID NOT RECEIVE LATENT LIFTS IN THIS CASE
It does not say “latent impressions”, which in the forensic “speak” means all friction ridge detail images.
Seriously? With a woman’s very life hanging in the balance we are expected to believe such a panel does not know the difference between a latent lift and a friction ridge image in 2009? Not to be glib, but as a practical matter, as a layperson, just imagine when your scotch tape slips off the cutter and you stand there for 10 minutes trying to thread it again with your fingernail. If that did not immediately furrow your brow, you will be wrapping all the christmas presents this year.
These assertions by the defense team are nothing more than an attempt to double dare the State to open their Kimono. Insert euphamisms at will.
As a matter of fact, a close look at the examination protocol used by the FBI, tells a very, very different story.
Tape Q62, Q63, Q64 is originally presented NOT to be tested for DNA. Who gets it first? Latent Print U and Chem. Why is this important? Because the two work together when we are talking about applying chemically based “lifting” techniques such as sticky powder, for example.
Yes, before you ask, this is where the heart sticker residue is seen by LPU on the NON ADHESIVE side prior to it’s own testing procedures. That residue is consumed and no longer visible in this phase. You can assume LPU saw that image under ALS, not visible to the evidence collection unit or ECU.
Occurring simultaneously, lets also assume a conscious decision is made to procure the latent images on the adhesive side of Q63, even at the risk of the consumption or ruin of residue of the alleged heart sticker that everyone already knew would not yield DNA.
Who thinks there are no other digital originals of the duct tape, bearing the sticker residue from the Medical Examiners Officer or CSI in the field? While I agree the residue chemistry itself may have been probative, this was not the woopsie the defense would lead you to believe.
LPU was assigned to do visual oversight when the Trace evidence unit, or TEU receives the samples next. Ms. Fontaine has a T shirt she wears under her lab coat for just such an occasion.
It reads: DONT BE SWABBIN ON MY PRINT on the front, on the back it reads: I’LL JUST WAIT TO BE SURE.
Is that so that their friction ridge was not destroyed? OF COURSE.
Next stop The Questioned Documents Unit, or QDU. For those unfamiliar, this is another “ARod” Jose Baez so astutely coined the analogy when referring to Dr. Neal Haskell being on the State’s expert list. This is where the mysterious “contamination” occurs. Brad Conway went as far as to say yesterday that this was a mysteryperson, a possible unsub if you will. Ms. Baden said it could be an alternative culprit. Yeesh.
It is clearly stated in the report that CONWAY released, that the ID from the partial profile, is Lorie Gottesman, of the QDU.
I am quite sure Ms. Gottesman has an alibis for June 16th. Perhaps this is a good thing as I hear Ms. Gottesman is well versed in expert testimony.
Ppppssst. There are 2 other samples of the duct tape, all 3 latent results have not been released except to say that George, Lee and Cindy have been excluded.
Wouldn’t you have to have a control latent to compare them to in order to exclude A N Y O N E?
Their ARE prints, folks. Eazy Peazy.
While we are on the subject of the tape, textile fibers WERE recovered from Q62 and Q64 and Q66 (house duct tape) and preserved for future testing.
It was not true to say there was no transfer evidence whatsoever, how would they know when those tests have not either been preformed or the results completed? Ms. Baden feels the public is being misled?
I would offer the misleading is being orchestrated by misinterpretation.
The decision was made to consider testing the tape for DNA after an initial pre-amplified DNA result came back from Baby Caylees tibia (I apologize for the graphic).
To be continued, blinkoncrime.com
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Fantastic job blink!!! <3
I wonder if everytime the defense comes out with a new “bombshell” if the come running here and say “oh shiite”…
Welcome to blinkoncrime.com Amanda, and TY
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Blink,
You’re phenominal!! (sp?)
I will rest easier tonight.
Thank you.
I have been waiting for DAYS for someone to point out what is painfully obvious to industry proffs. This case is landmark, and nobody gets it, other than this site, I guess.
Hail Blink, whoever you are.
All I can say is WOW….
So is the defense team media tour today a way to pressure the prosecutors to start discussions for a plea deal? Are they trying to get a plea deal before the print results are released?
Personally, I think they already know the prints are in.
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Bullseye.
Sometimes I have no clue why the people in this case put up with this crap. Baby Killer, the end.
Blink,
I am very tired but could you please splain?
The decision was made to consider testing the tape for DNA after an initial pre-amplified DNA result came back from Baby Caylees tibia (I apologize for the graphic).
Thanks and I cannot believe I didnt get that the first time I read it. duh (lol) If they didnt have a print, then how could they exclude the three others in the family?… HA! so simple.
I will in Part deux, it is a bit complex for a response, nite
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Blink,
Thanks for the website, updates and putting the pieces together gives prospective to what is going on in this case. Especially, release of the large amount of discovery documentation. Like, here at this site people speak out for the victim which she is unable to do for herself because of her age and the fact that she is not with us anymore. I have enormous respect for the LE, SAO and the Judge who has charge of this case. Keep up the remarkable work!
Are there precedents in a case like this in Florida where there will be no need for change of venue for the murder trial due to the defense team making their rounds on national morning show outlets?
Look what happens when the dream team is wining and dining and shoulder patting itself in the Big A– sneaky timing, Blink, SNEA–KY!!!
LOL Amanda!!!
I add my WOW.
I read this twice, slowly, because it is all new science to me.
But it was not greek to me! You went through it point by point, so clearly that even this novice followed…
WOW.
Will this have to come out in discovery? Or did I read somewhere that because it is the FBI, it does not have to??
Anyway…BRAVO, BLINK.
What was that fingerprinting of the Anthony’s in Brad’s office about? Ahh… only for the defense!!? I was assuming all family prints would have been available for comparison, but what would be the point unless and until that was required. (Duh!– again on me)
Blink-
Are you going to go into the other discovery in Part 2?
Your freakin me out, I have nothing to add.
Stellar.
M
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Wow Blink, this is great…wish I could understand a little better..I read those papers today and saw that the FBI said that there was no match of fingerprints to George, Cindy, and Lee…now I get it..DNA is way over my head…I had to look up Brian Burner to see why his DNA was taken and placed against Casey’s…the shovel! At first I thought it might of been a father for Caylee…Thanks.
Kathy Belich is my hero, not really but I liked her ever since I saw the youtube video where she’s following Cindy to her van with her microphone asking questions outdoors, might have been Jay Blanchard. Cindy stops walking & tells Kathy ‘don’t come closer you’re invading my space’ & starts yelling & ranting along the lines of ‘stop asking stupid questions, but since you’re a stupid woman Kathy that’s all you know how to ask’. Not exact words but close, they were discussing Leonard Padilla having a search team of divers in a lake.
Undaunted Kathy asked Cindy if she was having fun berating her & kept following Cindy asking more questions. Belich has more balls than the wimpy interviewers on any TV show the A’s & their cover up agents have been on yet…soft ball non-questions which are given outright lies & non-answers to.
I loved when Jose got irritated with Kathy after a court hearing, asked her why ‘her name was changed’ apprently he investigated her, then ignored her completely because he said ‘you’re killing my sound bite’ & started speaking Spanish to a hispanic reporter hoping Kathy would go away..she didn’t.
If every reporter was as tenacious as Kathy Belich we might have got to the truth with Casy & the slimeball Anthonys, Dom Casey, Michelle Bart, the Milsteads etc. all a lot sooner.
Wow Blink! Thank you for this info! I got a good chuckle on the “token 3 years of ol’ JoseB.”lol I really think it’s great that Kathy Belich was able to go through the old footage and find that duct tape picture. I hate the way the Anthony clan and D-team have been trying to discredit her at every turn! I bet Cindy is spitting nails about Kathy’s find! Do you think the State would ever even consider a plea deal? Thank you for all your hard work Blink!
TY, I do.
However, it does not matter because I do not believe her attorney will, shuts down the chuckwagon.
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Hiding in plain site. Thank you Blink Brilliant
Blink, you rock my socks on ice! (a saying my daughter uses when something is just awesomely mind blowing)
Waiting for part two…
Thanks for all you do. I was beginning to think KC might be heading towards getting away with murder. Thanks for restoring my faith!
And now new peice to tape found by wftv reporter. They should keep looking theres gonna be alot more.
BOMBSHELL..BLINK..BOMBSHELL…Thank you so much for this new article. The new tape evidence video with Kathy B. brillant! Your new thread is exactly what I and I am sure many other readers needed to calm our fears and give us a reason to have a defiant smile. God Bless our little Caylee and everyone else that is working tirelessly for her.
Blink, just for you…
Fantastique, mon ami !
Why did they need Caylee’s dna in order to test the duct tape for dna?
Since they had casey’s dna to match against, wouldn’t they be happy if they at least found hers on the tape?
No, they needed to positively ID Caylee. Testing for DNA is a neutral process, they interpret what they find
B
Ofcourse the defense team knows there is incriminating evidence. I have been wondering why Casey would agree to Lyon’s motion to remove the First Degree Murder charge but leave the manslaughter charge. Sure, its protocol to file these type of motions but Casey would have to agree to it. Maybe that was known before Casey’s last hearing appearance where she didn’t look quite so smug. If Cindy was still looking for a live Caylee after the MEmorial then she would see things that aren’t there to see in Discovery and have Brad Conway declare it to the world (with Baez’ blessings). Baez and Lyon so wants Cindy to look ridiculous anyway.
Thanks, Blink, for explaining the latest Discovery re: prints.
Blink, if Baez knows that prints are there, why isn’t he laying out the reality to Miss.Princess and telling her if she doesn’t attempt a plea, that basically, she’s done for. Or is this a Casey driven horsebuggy with an arrogance and belief that “I’m to pretty to be convicted”?
Because prints in and of themselves, on duct tape she will admit she had access to, sans DNA, is not in the defense’s mind, a smoking gun per se when they weave their theory. The totality of the evidence seen and yet to be seen will foce a plea or convict Casey Anthony. It is important to note what we see and what we do not. There is very little back from forensics in the scheme of things and I also think there are further tests on some samples we think are back and complete already because I can tell from the discovery there are multiple locations and not all samples are accounted for.
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Thank you, B. Beyond, thank you. What would we do without you?
TY, but not at all, I consider it a good thing that we all learn together so we can keep our collective perspective.
B
You don’t tug on superman’s cape
You don’t spit into the wind
You don’t pull the mask off that old lone ranger
And you don’t mess around with ____*
* Insert “Blink” or “Belich”
Okay, Blinkers now I am compelled to come back. When is the second part?
Do you think there will be a plea offered, if so, what?
You are never happy are you, always chop chop Blink!
LMAO. Next week.
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Could the roll of duct tape that Casey borrowed from her friend Amy (? I think it was ) play a part in this ? Possibly matching to the brand of duct tape found on Caylee ? I believe Casey borrowed it to use on her costume for one of the many wild parties she attended .
Amy says she never had duct tape, and I have seen the peeps at that party, I did not see that brand of duct tape on anyone.
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# 25 LOL
Slave drivin’….sorry.
Blink–
Now that the defense has filed their motion to dismiss based on lack of evidence, do you think the fingerprint evidence will show up within the state’s response?
No, I think they will release discovery under the rules of the Fla Supreme Court and not be goaded by the defense.
B
I think the jury will have no problem understanding the sheer force of the fact the tape was soooo rare. Easy to layout a picture even for those of us without math degrees. 304,000,000people in the US (2,054,000 of whom live in the metropolitan Orlando area) bought 135,000 rolls of INDUSTRIAL ( more expensive specialty type)duct tape only between the years 2005 and 2007. Prior to July 15th 2008 a piece of this tape ended up on a gas can in the Anthonys garage. Several pieces of this rare duct tape ended up on the remains of Caylee Anthony, for benefit of the doubt, lets say prior to December 11th 2008. In July 2008 the Anthony clan hangs posters of Caylee, in THEIR command Center with more of this rare tape. ( Bear in mind Casey is in custody). I think the odds of Casey touching a piece of duct tape at the Anything but clothes party, or from one her friends would be easier to swallow than finding the duct tape in the posession of the Anthonys after Casey is already in jail. Who would have access to this tape except the Anthonys in all three scenarios! I think the duct rarity can not be underestimated in this case especially with three seperate instances over severalmonth span, all involving the Anthonys.
Thank you so much Blink. Great work.
Didn’t Amy mention her duct tape to Casey in a text message? And now she’s denying that? Did I miss something? I could have sworn I saw that in a text. Anyone??
you think they will mention it at the next court hearing though?..whenever that may be. very good!!! helps my confidence they will get this vile woman!
Blink….in a prior post you mentioned that Baez already knew about the fingerprints back in March….did he tell GA and CA about them?
Regarding post #26. Isn’t there text messages between Casey and may be Annie regarding duct tape. I know I read that somewhere.
There is, but IIRC, it was Casey to Amy asking if she had seen it.
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If Casey and team do approach the prosecution with a plea deal, due to insurmountible evidence, does anyone know what the plea would be in a situation such as this?
At last ! Thank you for the lucid article defining the arcane science
underlying the ac
WOW. Just WOW. Blink and Blinksters you are all amazing. I am sure that the whole defense team and G & A are checking here every minute as I tend to do.
I would be very happy with a plea deal as it would hopefully end this whole charade. I cannot wait to hear Casey admit that she killed that beautiful baby. It will give some closure to all of us who want to see justice. Not only that but her admitting to being respoinsible for Caylee’s death will shut the gravy train down for Cindy and George.
#29 Thanks azrenee, I didn’t think the duct tape was all that important, either way, but I guess your post countered that.
So does Belich’s video automatically go into evidence, or does the state have to subpoena it? Is there a way that the defense can argue that it shouldn’t come into evidence or trial?
Not at all, wftv can just hand it over, based on the protocol. They will probably ask for a supoena though to appear neutral if you will, as if. lol.
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Anyone know when Strickland will have a hearing on these motions to dismiss, I know that some of you keep up on the court calender?
A question for Kleat: Any new commentary from suspected defense camp on the ‘internets’ after WFTV’s find? Just curious.
Does Facebook Posting Show Casey Anthony Used Friends Duct Tape?
As it turns out, a Facebook posting might hold important clues in the case against Casey Anthony.
From WFTV:
Eyewitness News made the discovery Wednesday as search crews spent another day sifting through dirt and knocking down tree branches. Eyewitness News learned of the duct tape details from somebody who contacted the station through WFTV.com.
An Ontario woman, who has been tracking the Casey Anthony case on WFTV.com, emailed Eyewitness News what she says is Casey’s Facebook page with a message about duct tape. She insists it’s an authentic page she found and printed in July.
One specific posting in late May, from who appears to be Casey’s former best friend Amy Huizenga, reads, “You lost my duct tape. I was excited to have so much left. That’s why (sic) I get for giving you my purse.”
The date it appeared to be posted, May 26, was around the same time as a “no clothes party” Casey attended. She had wrapped herself in a flag and, according to her, nothing else.
Eyewitness News passed the Facebook information along to law enforcement and they are investigating the possibility that the duct tape mentioned is somehow connected to the case.
Investigators found duct tape on the mouth of the child’s skull found less than a half-mile from the Anthony home. Investigators have been very tight-lipped about what they took from the Anthony home shortly after the remains were found and what, if any, evidence it has yielded
I find it interesting that when forensics point to noone but Casey, it’s considered “junk science” by the defense, but when there is a discovery that puts question marks on Casey’s involvement, it’s considered gospel. They not only want to have the cake and eat it, they want the all-you-can-eat dessert bar at Shoney’s
#37. West I have tried to think about all the defense can say about any fingerprints, dna etc found on the tape, but until yesterday I didnt really consider just how ridiculous it would be to suggest that tape could end up in all three scenarios in the same city, in the same case. I hope it is as obvious to the jury as it seems to me.
My only thought would be how a college age girl, living in apts like Amy was, would have industrial fire grade duct tape, and if she did, how did the Anthonys end up hanging posters with it? If Casey left it at the house I guess that would be a connection. There is no way I could be convinced of a coincidence of the tape showing up in the three confirmed places so far.
The SA office requested discovery evidence from the defense asking for their proof that Casey is innocent. This was after Todd M. said that in court. It has been a few weeks since this request. How long before the defense has to turn thier discovery over to the State?
Blink,
Just a quick THANK YOU for all the hard work and effort you and your team put into these cases! It is so refreshing to come here and read your articles that present the facts in easy speak. Your articles are nothing less than informative and accurate! Like I said…refreshing!
I’d like to ask about something I made a mental note of from one of the defense motions (I think it was 2 or 3 of them ago) where LKB is requesting info on the “18 fingerprints” found. I hope you know what I’m referring to, but if not, I’ll go look up and find a link. When I read that, I was OH YEAH! Just like Blink said, there ARE prints!!! Do you have any further information or comment on this? Thanx again!
Sorry Kew- too broad, can u link me please?
TY
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still looking for it in the discovery, but here http://www.wftv.com/news/18301938/detail.html
An Ontario woman, Gloria Hilker, who has been tracking the Casey Anthony case on WFTV.com, emailed Eyewitness News what she says is
Casey’s Facebook page with a message about duct tape. She insists it’s an authentic page she found and printed in July.
One specific posting in late May, from who appears to be Casey’s former best friend Amy Huizenga, reads, “You lost my duct tape. I was excited to have so much left. That’s why (sic) I get for giving you my purse.”
The date it appeared to be posted, May 26, was around the same time as a “no clothes party” Casey attended. She had wrapped herself in a flag and, according to her, nothing else.
#40 This is from the TV guy’s site. I suspect it might be from the defense side. The tone is so familiar.
“If the news agency’s are going to do their own rebuttal to defense motions, then WHY are we wasting our time on a trial. Let’s just go ahead and execuete her for the crime. Why waste the time when the court of public opinion has been turned against her. The news agencies are not doing a fair job in insuring that she get a fair trial. Guilty or not, she deserves her day in court in front of 12 of her peers. If we are not going to do that, then let’s have an old fashion hanging and get it over with. Otherwise, WESH & WFTV will continue to make their legal commentators richer.”
The TV guy said
” I saw the reports as rebuttals to what the defense said on national television. Those interviews simply presented the defense’s side.”
EXACTLY. I will say Baez smarmy mug first thing in the morning did motivate me to finish my work on the piece, that is true.
I will say it again, the state wanted a gag order. The defense did not. Suck it up.
B
I’m digging through all the text messages right now, trying to find the one where Casey mentioned to Annie about the tape. I’ll find it, but it might take me a minute.
It’s odd, because I remember before duct tape was even an issue in this case, that text jumped out at me. It struck me the same way as the squirrel message.
Obviously the message Casey sent about her dad driving the car and hitting a squirrel, (thus the reason for the smell) was her way of covering for the hideous smell if anyone were to get near the car. The text message was completely unwarranted at the time. No mention of cars, squirrels, dads, smells or otherwise, just that text out of the blue.
The text concerning the duct tape was the exact same way. I recall specifically she sent that message about the duct tape being missing, yet there wasn’t any conversation prior to or after that message that had anything to do with the duct tape, or it being missing, or even anything about a purse, well prior to that I mean.
Like I said, it jumped out at me at the time, because that was twice that she sent texts that were out of the blue, so to speak, as if she were covering for something that hadn’t yet come up.
Back to the docs to find the text…