Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Roy Kronk Fired For Undisclosed Reasons- Updated
Orlando, FL- Roy Kronk, the infamous meter reader who after three attempts finally located the remains of 34 month old Caylee Marie Anthony, has been fired from his position as a County employee today.
Kronk failed to show up for a pre-determination hearing for the first step of an undisclosed disciplinary proceeding according to Orange County Utilities.
“Roy Kronk was scheduled to attend a pre-determination hearing yesterday to address issues pertaining to his employment with the County. He failed to show for the hearing, and a decision has been issued terminating his employment effective immediately,” the county wrote Kronk’s lawyer. “Therefore, the County shall not pay any legal fees associated with representing Mr. Kronk that are incurred from this point forward.”
Update#1 I received this email from David Evans, Roy Kronk’s Attorney.
I have received a number of inquiries today regarding the decision by Orange County Utilities to terminate Roy Kronk’s employment yesterday. I am furnishing this statement on Mr. Kronk’s behalf. Mr. Kronk is the Orange County Utilities worker who found the remains of Caylee Anthony.
The termination of Mr. Kronk relates to a difference of opinion between Mr. Kronk and Orange County regarding a workplace injury sustained by Mr. Kronk in the course of his job duties at an Orange County Utilities warehouse. This dispute arose because Mr. Kronk’s management directed him to resume work duties after his injury, and Mr. Kronk and his health care providers did not consider it to be safe or medically appropriate to resume those duties at this time.
Mr. Kronk is evaluating his legal options relating to his termination. In the meantime, Mr. Kronk is volunteering his time to a veteran’s group in Osceola County–he is providing counseling to military veterans to help ease their adjustment to civilian life.
David Evans
Update #2
Roy Kronk injured his kneck and shoulder while lifting boxes in the Utilities warehouse.
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Karen, by someone saying a dog is a ‘trained’ specialist in one area or another, is an easy claim for anyone to make, until they are called into a certification test. Just because a dog happens on a scent that’s interesting in the past, and that happens to be a successful ‘find’, that proves nothing about the dog’s training, abilities, and the NECESSARY ONGOING upkeep of the dog’s training and skills.
Those people in that car had no business calling themselves cadaver dog handlers, the male person, and the person who owned the dark coloured dog. That dark dog, if anyone listens closely to the owner, doesn’t even have a basic ‘recall’ on him. The handler remarked that she was worried he would take off!!!
Not even the most basic bond with handler, not even enough obedience to be recalled– that is NOT a trained ‘anything’ dog with that handler– talented and possibly previously trained, even certified, he doesn’t work for the handler that had him at that site. Might be a great working dog, could very well be, but he’s useless without a proper handler and proper maintenance training to do this sort of demanding work. Scent work is demanding of a dog, very demanding– that hot weather, the dogs taken out of a hot car, not refreshed before starting, then seemingly (tho that might be the video) rushed along.
I would like to see the certification work of these dogs and handler teams. It’s not a one-time thing, happenstancing on a find– it’s long hours of dedicated work to ensure the skills and the endurance of the dog, and to train in a way that the dog is reliable in it’s indications and to maintain testing of these skills of the handler and of the dog as a team.
Then what about taking scent to the search scene, how was that handled, where was it taken beyond the road? And when a dog handler works, they are not chit chatting away or rushed by other people, they are paying attention to their dog closely.
Hal has a commentary on the Anthony’s tattoos they were sporting on their cruise….BUT, they think Caylee is still ALIVE, right?
Sorry, comment by Granmomma……Hal is with the Orlando Sentinel.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com
Latest defense motion…http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/11/caseys-attorneys-want-death-pe.html
Interesting points- all, Kleat
YOUR QUOTE:
“What does Bart also know and if anything, that can NOT be privileged as she also works for Kidfinders, as she exposes in this interview.”
Indeed, has she been interviewed by LE? If the defense wants to bring up OSCO not wanting to investigate this sighting, she is the perfect person to ask- how long of a delay there was in getting the photo ‘out there’?
Also, George already states in this interview how they are going around law enforcement and stepping on toes, and yet he says in reference to tips “If we think its credible we’ll pass it on for some help”….So, then , whose help, the police, D Casey, the FBI? And what is the criteria for determining credibility? And timeliness?
It is very interesting to go back through these older interviews knowing what we now know.
Yep– new motions filed this morning, here’s another source: WESH/Bob Kealing
http://www.wesh.com/news/21507294/detail.html
Defective, double jeopardy for the extra charges in cheque fraud case, defense allowed to do a fishing expedition because of the way the defective motion reads.
The defense seems to be admitting that it can not prepare a defense to the capital case.
Throw out on a technicality?? And then there’s the scheming of the dp to get a plea.
Maybe Casey will be home for the holidays!!
(so where did the ‘proof, exculpatory proof’ go– that doesn’t sound like ‘fishing’ but something concrete)
#246_Kleat
Cindy looked DESTROYED in that video. Very telling.
WHY didn’t Baez file this motion regarding defective charges LONG ago? Didn’t he know enough to do so?
Seems there’s a lot of reprocussions from mishandling by Baez early on. Or desperation now.
Okay, so the Fountains of Waterford Lake are apartments. Anyone know who lived/lives there?
relentless.
B
oops, sorry mama marina, missed your WESH link!! You had it already.
Is it true that Cindy had a tattoo on her belly for Caylee with a butterfly? Imagine– ‘HER’ belly. This is sick, IF true. What does the location symbolize to her, the grandmother?
And if that’s the case, does the shoulder symbolize anything for George? Over his heart– or shouldering the weight of this problem.
WDBO link includes some of the motion statements:
“Without any facts to refute, Miss Anthony cannot formulate a defense,” the motion claims. “Is Miss Anthony to try to dream up all these ways and marshall a defense to them all? Provide alibis for every potential scenario, every date and time the state might consider in the range of dates they discuss? The prospect is absurd.”
I understand, this is difficult for Ms. Anthony to decide which to run with– Sawgrass on the 16th, or Blanchard Park on whenever that was. She now has the burden to decide which is the true version– she’s had a year to figure that one out.
She could begin by telling the truth, the whole truth, and try to get herself back on track. Demanding to speak out herself, which is her right, if her lawyer failed her early on.
Kleat- I am not sure about Florida law when it comes to custody of a child. I do know in Texas the ultimate goal of the court is to protect the child. In other words if Cindy wanted custody of Caylee and the father was unknown the court would press Casey to give the Father’s name in order to protect the child and father. If the father was truly unknown the court would most likely rule in Casey’s favor- respecting her wishes. Maybe this was threatening to Casey because she would either have to tell Cindy who the father was or admit (to her mother) she really didn’t know because of her promiscuity. I am sure Silver can explain this much better than I can. I think it is a great point and maybe “fuel to the fire” if you will. I believe there are so many small details that lead to Casey’s breakdown. I view Casey as a victim of Cindy’s but that in NO WAY excuses what she did to that precious baby girl. The more I learn about this family the more I see that Cindy is in TOTAL control and anyone in her way better watch out! It also makes me appreciate my mother and how wonderful she was to me when I gave birth to my son at 17 yrs old. As far as Kronk goes- I think there is a lot more to the story and I appreciate and respect everyone’s opinions on here- I don’t think any of Blink’s faithful posters will be too surprised when he testifies at the trial. You are all amazing – thanks for the reassurance that there really are GREAT people out there who still care about what is good in this world!!!!! Blink- I stand amazed.
236 Comment by MsEnscene
I think it’s ok to disagree because were not always going to agree on everything and you could be right. I just felt that cindy was smothering her and she wasnt able to be young and spend time with friends and be normal. Cindy was getting to where she didnt want to watch caylee and the pressures from cindy was something she wanted to rid herself of so that she could live the beautiful life
which her family are being so kind as to live it for her why waste it they got the money now and lots of time.
its ok to disagree we have to agree to disagree
smiles
chica
oh may I add that she has afforded lee her brother to live it for her with his parents… the beautiful life!
I have an idea I must share, not that I believe it could be implemented by state law, but in my opinion, it could certainly have potential for positive impact. As a deterent for possible future individuals in Casey’s shoes who are thinking of offloading their child/children due to irresponsibility and immaturity, there needs to be billboards on the highways that have the violent offenders photo, crime, and sentence hilighted, with a phrase out to the side with a saying, something along the lines of, “Is it worth it”? Opinions?
Thats A-OK Kleat!
westsidehudson
Here’s a tenant’s review of the complex (there are more reviews on this site as well, but this one may offer you some direction):
http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/FL-Orlando-Fountains-at-Waterford-Lake-766750.html
todd in tulsa
not a bad idea there.
Hello everyone. I have been trying to catch up on all the activity here,after the holiday. So many great qreat questions being asked. I love this site!
#259 I don’t know who lives at the apartments but Casey frequented this area quite alot.
Buffalo Wild Wings is at Waterford Lakes where Casey met Sean Daly and Isason (sp) july 5
The target is there
The Waterford Ale house is where Jeffrey Hopkins stated he saw Casey
Sports Authority Casey’s claimed job is on Alafaya and by Waterford Lakes
Casey went to several movies at he waterford lake Cinemas after June 15th
Casey was in the Waterford Lakes area on June 19th @ 5:45 pm.according to ValHall’s timeline of cell phone pings “5:45 pm KC’s cell phone pings show her to the east in the area bordered by Alafaya Trail, Research Parkway, and Avalon Park Boulevard (Waterford Lakes Area). She remained in this area until 9:02 pm. She then is back at TL’s apartment until 1:04 pm 07/20/08″
Also there is a TGI Fridays in this area, supposedly where Rachel Farrel worked,I believe.
I don’t know if any of this helps just throwing it out there.
wsh – I believe The Fountains are apartments that ZG was looking at, to move to, or Tony was looking at, to move to, or both. Just working on memory here.
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But you must tell him blink sent you …
B
Not sure where Bozo and team got the double jeopardy for the check fraud case. It’s a 10 count indictment- 1 for the grand theft of the sum total of the money. 3 counts on each check- 1. for using stolen identification of AH. 2. Writing a forged check 3. Using that forged check.
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_charging_documents.pdf
No lawyer here- but I think that one will be tossed out. As far as the murder case goes- can we say total desperation?? I thought they had a stranger danger defense-what happened to that? LOL Geeeee how about the state saying she duct taped her childs nose and mouth and dumped her for animals to pick apart and SHE did it…that sounds like the prosecution’s case? What’s the matter? Can’t make your square peg fit in the round hole and now you want to throw down your toys and go home? How about a PLEA then dumbarsxx.
It’s just one weird thing after another.
Tossed out- meaning charges will stand
westsidehudson
Sounds like this Waterford Lakes complex may be the same “housing community” as her ex Steve J’s, which is also near a CVS, Winn-Dixie, that LE was discussing with Ricardo M.
starts at page 22, line 20
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4824851/Casey-Anthony-Ricardo-Morales-Interview
#232 – R.L
You wrote – … and I want to believe her killer will not get away with this ,but my gut says she will have a life not behind bars.Paranoia mabey,someone asure me im insane and shes goin away for life for Caylee..
************************************
Don’t worry, you’re insane and Casey is going nowhere but AWAY FOR GOOD!
What I think is important to note is that the prosecution has enough evidence to convince a jury to convict Casey. If the defense didn’t cross-examination prosecution witnesses or offer up a defense, I think we can all agree that based on what the prosecution will present, Casey is toast.
The defense cannot afford to sit there like a bump on a log without trying to discredit witnesses and evidence or offering some sort of explanation of what “really” happened.
But what are they going to say? How will they be able to discredit witnesses, especially when many of their testimonies are backed up by either video (think law enforcement), accepted medical practices (think medical examiners), accepted forensics (I don’t know how you’d classify—Doctors? Scientists?)?
A couple of examples of a lacking defense:
The defense will try to defuse the duct tape evidence by saying the FBI analyst contaminated it by putting her fingerprint on it. The prosecution will then come back and explain that even though there’s an extra fingerprint, it can be proven the FBI analyst did NOT kill Caylee and, added with all the OTHER evidence, it CAN be proven Casey DID.
Or
The prosecution will bring witnesses attesting that Casey was a habitual liar, especially where it concerned Caylee’s whereabouts, and there’s PROOF Caylee was NEVER where Casey said she was during those 31 days. The defense will have to discredit these witnesses—but how? Maybe they can discredit one or two, citing drug use, jealousy…whatever, but discredit ALL of them??…and there are PLENTY who bear witness to Casey’s lies.
Or
The defense can allude to “junk science” regarding forensics and time of death during cross-examination (or by their own “expert” witnesses), but there is a plethora of case law citing acceptable practices in determining those findings and the prosecution will have ten times the experts PROVING their evidence than the defense can come up with to dispute it.
From an “offensive” defense strategy, the defense might want to try to explain what “really” happened, or why Casey lied, and waited, and partied, and shopped for herself and NOT Caylee during her disappearance. In order to do that though, either Casey, or SOMEONE on her behalf would have to testify. Casey, IN NO WAY, can afford to take the stand. That leaves………crickets……crickets………WHO????
The witness list for the defense, so far has (I think) about seven “expert” witnesses (six doctors and a digital forensic consultant). Not ONE witness to dispute or discredit Casey’s own words to scores of friends, family and acquaintances.
Is it the proverbial “slam dunk”? I don’t think anyone is saying so as this case has more twists than the kudzu vines on Suburban Drive. But I’d be hard pressed to believe that seven defense witnesses will be REASONABLY able to discredit the one-hundred-forty plus witnesses the state has that PROVES Casey should spend the rest of her life behind bars.
Of course I’m encouraging Silver, Blink or other “big brains” to clarify and enlighten me how trials really work, or more importantly, HOW Casey could be acquitted, if I’m totally off base here. Again, full disclosure: I’ve never been an attorney nor have I ever played one on tv.
TY Blink for adding the link.
# 264 Hi, Chica. I hear, ya’. We’re all of us operating on a lot of theories and we may never know all of it…especially if the case never goes to trial as Blink believes. Everyone to her own opinion, for sure! I’m interested to read yours.
I just see Casey wanting it all and not willing to put any honest effort into getting ahead. She wants to play and pretend. She seems a little…er… backward.
Being free of Cindy and leading her own life would have taken a lot of hard work. A job and school at night, perhaps. Where is any effot on her part (beyond making up fanciful tales and hunting for a male to rescue her) to make something of her life and Caylee’s life?
Really, I am not sure Casey was capable of doing what many other young single moms have done to get on with their lives. Casey appears not to have the best planning-ahead apparatus. She lives for the moment. Something wrong there. Cindy Inc. have probably been covering for Casey for many moons. Maybe that’s the big secret of Hopespring Drive. What went wrong with Casey?
And finally, we are told that Cindy wanted Casey to keep that baby. Not sure of that, either. Keeping the pregnancy secret beyond the time of an abortion might be because Casey wanted the baby. Giving info about wanting to give up Caylee and Cindy vetoing an adoption came from Casey.
Since Casey is not exactly a stellar devotee’ of the truth, anything she has said must come under the BS meter.
As always, just my take.
Thank you, FosterMom!
Thank you, Blink!
It’s not really an award, it’s more of a popularity contest, if that. I have a much better chance at this than a beauty contest where I wouldn’t stand a chance of being nominated, let alone win. There’s no prize, by the way, but you are allowed to vote every day, so please vote often.
Lol. Good Luck
B
Thank you,
Candidate Dave
Sorry to break in like this.
#262_Kleat
I don’t like how some of these sites post quotes: (WDBO)
“Without any facts to refute, Miss Anthony cannot formulate a defense,” the motion claims. “Is Miss Anthony to try to dream up all these ways and marshall a defense to them all? Provide alibis for every potential scenario, every date and time the state might consider in the range of dates they discuss? The prospect is absurd.”
If I dissect this, it appears that this is a quote from the defense:
“Without any facts to refute, Miss Anthony cannot formulate a defense,” the motion claims
Whose quote is this? It’s obviously someone’s opinion and it is uncredited. Maybe this is how all those quotes were started that were attributed to Kronk? If this is the writer’s position, then it shouldn’t be in quotation marks.:
“Is Miss Anthony to try to dream up all these ways and marshall a defense to them all? Provide alibis for every potential scenario, every date and time the state might consider in the range of dates they discuss? The prospect is absurd.”
Thanks momof3, Angela_nw and wpgmouse…on the Fountains info!
Seems like there are a lot of possibilities, and Blink is not ready to spill.
Blink
Was the pool party at the fountains where Jesse met Tony?
no, Arden Villas. Nice try, you already knew that- who you kidding?
B
Anthony Sowell convicted raptist. 10 bodies found in his home in Cleveland, Ohio and LE still looking.
will do blink I am so inclined to follow your lead he is well deserving.
almost choked on my liver burrito when I seen that.
Yeah SuzeeB- they said his house smelled like rotten pizza!
fellow blinker’s
just spoke to darla via her laptop on the flight. she and hubbie and son are two hours away from their destination. She sends her love and wants to thanks you all for caring.
she especialy wants to thank you blink for your thoughtfullness.
WSH – You’re exactly right about the statements and quotes not being attributed accurately or even at all by the media. I too believe that many of these quotes then get mis-translated or mis-quoted over and over again on the interwebs that they become assumptions or taken for granted as fact when they could be far from the actual truth. Its frustrating. I see how people innocently see them on the comments of blogs (or the actual posts in blogs) many times and assume that they are based on something real. Kind of like James Thompson and his whole story. Its gotten so ridiculously blown up and out of proportion – all because people refuse to believe the truth or were mislead by others.
Blink,(#281)
Was the pool party at the fountains where Jesse met Tony?
“no, Arden Villas. Nice try, you already knew that- who you kidding?”
B
BWAAAAAHAHHAHAAAAAAH!!!!(maniacal devious laughter)…just kidding.
#282_ Comment by SuzeeB — November 3, 2009 @ 7:16 pm
“Anthony Sowell convicted raptist. 10 bodies found in his home in Cleveland, Ohio and LE still looking.”
How does this crap go unnoticed? Talk about smell. And who was looking out for these women; no one noticed that they were gone/missing? How did this guy afford a house? So strange.
#283_Chica
Glad to see that you are back and healthy enough to “choke on burritos”!
#287_Thanks for your cosign, Lily. It does make it confusing. Hopefully, it isn’t intentional. Though, if not, it comes across as incompetence or negligence.
#287_Lily
Okay, I googled ‘James Thompson’, and there are too many to discern what you might be speaking of. Sorry for the ignorance. What happened to James Thompson? Secondly, should I feel terribly stupid for not knowing?
Bill Schaeffer provided a bit of comment on today’s motions by the defense.
Quote:
‘ “But for the fact that we’re dealing with the death of a child and a mother who’s facing the death penalty you bet, that’s just a laughable motion to be filed in the case at this time. It’s just almost, when is the defense ever going to get serious?” WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said.’
How many kicks at the dismiss-the-case can are allowed? Or does that just time out as trial nears?
lol westside
I am getting there! lol that was a good liver burrito sounds gross but its not lol. yeah I am gaining momentum with each passing day. besides I missed yall terribly.
Comment by MsEnscene #277
In my opinion, I think that there is just to much on casey for her to be aquitted! First of all she has ineffective counsel in baez!That speaks volumes his lack of experience. He is making way too many blunders and he does not have her best interest at heart. He is letting his ego get in the way of his performance.The fact that there was evidence in the trunk of the car, along with her irratic maniac behaviours for 31 days. she didnt report caylee missing, her mom said it smells like theres been a dead body in the car. her dad former LE also said once you smell that odor you will never forget it!! The tatoo she got was a major nono for her it will come back to bite her in the butt biggtime.
the prosecution will prosecute this case and prove without a shadow of a doubt that casey was the only one responsible for caylees death. Not jesse Grund, not amy and not the mysterious nanny, lets not forget cindy said she had the nannys phone number but cant find it sounds like baez also cant find things. nope not amy or anyone else including and I repeat the mysterious nanny that was created for decieving everyone and throwing everyone off. yes the prosecution will prove without a shadow of a doubt that there is no live caylee in puerto rico or anywhere else.that the ashes the anthonys wear are of caylee that the death certificate of a supposed different child is in their living room that doesnt make sense… they will make all the anthonys starting with casey!!look like the lying fools that they are! The defense has gone out of their way to appear in front of the cameras to make statements that they arent able to back up. they said they have proof casey is innocent but when asked to produce the facts they couldnt. and the big if!!IF there was a sighting of caylee in puerto rico why havent they hired someone to go there and search for her. after all they say that their client deserves a fair trial so why not do everything to insure that she gets a fair trial. they have come up with so many theories along the way all proving nothing. There was a time they were referencing to and comparing her case to the fugitive!! how bazaar was that and like everything else they cant back it up!! I think that they know that they cant prove anything that casey has said to be true. let’s not forget what strickland said!
That casey and the truth are strangers. I posted here today!! a client that baez represented is accusing him of ineffective counsel. Did you see it? I am not that skilled as some are here at research and disecting info. However I will say in my best opinion I think casey is toast. why else are the defense trying all these motions in hope that something sticks. Keep the faith because ineffective council could just be in the prosecutions side. but thats just me and I could be wrong its nice to see everyones theories and beliefs.
hope I made sense it’s been a long day
god bless
chica
p.s
if that was my grandchild! I would be a wreck not able to sleep or function. I wouldnt be on a cruise getting tattoes and partying and gambling. I think most of us feel the same when it comes to our kids/grandkids. they are our pride and joy and we would go to the ends of the earth to find them. that is going to work against them and casey.
P.S
I tend to agree it will not go to trial. they know they cant win!! they will hang in there as long as they can!! Desperation makes people do weird things.
#277 MsEnscene
here it goes hope its not double posted
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-03-28/news/baez28_1_baez-diaz-conviction
Client blames Baez for conviction in tot’s death
Hello, Blink
Has the location of LA’s storage unit ever been discussed here?
Not that I can recall, but I am aware he had/has one.
B
#297 Chica. Thanks for all your thoughtful posts! And whoa! That link about Baez’s former client. The old JB rep doesn’t look that good. Hope Judge Strickland continues to be on the ball crossing every little “t” and dotting the “i’s”.
Why does this legal team declare that they have evidence to clear their client, yet they want the case dismissed because the client can’t possible defend herself against such a weak case against her? Why not produce the exculpatory evidence before February? Grrr. Crazy makings! If I were living in Florida, my temper at the waste of my taxpayer money on a case that should have been plead long before this would be near to boiling.
There are two black and white photos of Caylee that I’m aware of, that came out last year in the early releases of Casey’s Photobucket albums. These photos were also in their original colour versions, one is the photo on the posters, the other, Caylee dressed up in beads and big sunglasses in the house.
Were the black and white versions done by Casey, and if so, did she also add those little ‘red heart shaped skulls kissing’ images before July 16th of last year? I don’t remember seeing a ‘sticker version’ of the kissing skulls in the photo doc dump, but there were many of the graphics images files collected in Casey’s photos.
No one discusses that little red ‘sticker’ like image placed on Caylee’s black and white photos, and WHEN those were placed there because they are symbols of death so clearly, in a little ‘heart shaped’ illusion.
Why would a mother place ‘kissing skulls’ in the shape of a little red heart sticker, on a black and white photo of their missing baby, if not related to prior knowledge that the child was dead.
Do we know when those photos were manipulated or added to the Photobucket account or later posted on Casey’s pre-July 16th FB or Myspace?
One example of these photos is in the photobucket here (btw, thanks to the poster for that album– whose is it so I can credit?):
http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/?action=view¤t=Cayleeredheart.jpg