Morgan Harrington Case: Virginia State Police On New Search

Posted by BOC Staff | Missing Persons,Morgan Harrington | Wednesday 16 December 2009 12:40 pm

Charlottesville, VA– Virginia State Police are searching an area of route 64, between mile markers 112 and 114 today in their efforts to locate missing VT student, Morgan Harrington.

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Located approximately 4 miles west of Charlottesville, VA, the stretch of highway leads up to an early area of interest, Crozet, VA.

VSP PR Manager, Connie Geller says the area is not being searched based on any new tip.

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Check back to blinkoncrime.com for this developing story. 

Update #1. Jim Hanchett, Newsplex, reports the search has ended for this area today, and is awaiting any news of other possible search areas.

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1,856 Comments

  1. suz says:

    Thanks, Danielle, re: the tagging of self in pics. I was mostly amused because it seems like getting the simplest, easy to come by info this case is like pulling teeth. Just amazing.

  2. fish says:

    blink, can i post something for your eyes only?

    Yes. Only you and I will be able to see it.
    B

  3. suz says:

    Oh, the reason I mentioned the type of equipment the paving dude would have is that he wouldn’t necessarily have any digging equipment. Grading equipment, yes, but not necessarily a backhoe or anything that would be useful to hide a body. But of course, he could have such equipment. If I had a company like that, 100% chance I’d have a baby bobcat outfitted with a blade and back hoe and whatever else, just because they are sooooo cute and look like so much fun.

  4. Danielle says:

    BlackPearl #341 –

    He posted a response on his Myspace page because of the comments made about him on the Facebook page dedicated to finding Morgan. I made him aware of the posts and his response followed shortly thereafter.

    No disrespect to Blink or any other posters BUT I just feel like we can talk about him and his lifestyle until we’re blue in face. He’ll still be no more responsible for Morgan’s disappearance than you or I.

    No disrepect taken, and certainly none directed to you-

    But to “ostrich” an important social issue that arose from this tragedy ain’t gonna happen.

    In critical path analysis, there is a term called “root cause.” HH may have put himself squarely there. Again, he is an adult. In the eyes of the law, some of those he exposes to his “lifestyle” , are underage. This is a black and white issue requiring no debate.
    B

  5. Chad says:

    Radio-

    Thank you so much for sharing. Your post was was anything les than amazing. After reading your post, your post really hit home for some of us who are following this case, as we can see paralells, and associative similariites through our own children, and experiences. Thank god that your children are OK. I’ll say thank god again……

    If I may share about my own daughter, I see this case in paralells too, through the lens of my own daughter and her friends and their experiences. I loved your comparisons to your own childrens unfortunate incidents, and drew an analogy with Morgan’s Harrington, and Radio, at anytime during any of these events, you may very well have been the parent of a missing child or young adult. I’m still really pissed that they took his brand new shoes! My hair curled up on the back of my neck with reflection on some of your story at times while reading. You had to have gone through hell.

    My daughter is now a freshman in college…. She is, and was friends with a group of girls all through HS, and they call themselves “the dirty dozen” (ob there are 12) They were all very close and went to the same highschool. I can so totally indentify with all that is being discussed on this board, at least concerning the friends. Many, many dynamics, and many “roles” take place in these groups.

    I thought that Momof3 post of Roxie was excellent. I read that post 3 times. This is part of the reason I am posting. The roles in social groups are very interesting. There is always a ring leader……..a bully, (as Roxie indicates) in her post, some follwers, etc….these are roles that they take on in this clan so to speak.
    My daughter ended up being a follower (which is pretty scary in itself) but Momof3 or anyone, did you feel that in Roxie’s post, she was referring to Morgan as the bully?
    IMO I think Roxie is a friend and knows something. That post was pretty right on. She was talkin’ to the group dynamics of the 9. I have a 19 year old daughter, that language she was talkin, was a something I understood. Does anyone else feel this way about that post? I think that some of the 9 have posted on this thread, and perhaps on others.

    I have a Psychology background, and I’m currently am employed in the HC industry, please bear with me if I seem like I’m out there sometimes when I post….LOL. so, inadvance I am so sorry if I get hung up on these types of topics related to this case. (eyes are rolling)
    It would be interesting to know what role Morgan played in the 9.

    As far as HH- tie dye, you guys are all doing a great job. My skill set is not on FB, My Space, Photo shop, or anything else. So Blink, you can count me out on those specific skill sets, but count me in for compassion, justice, and I would also like to think a little for analyzing.

    Chad, You bet I will. They are invaluable tools and welcome.
    B

  6. Danielle says:

    Blink #351 –

    Respectfully, we will have to agree to disagree as I do not feel that HH is a “root cause” in any way, shape or form.

  7. wpgmouse says:

    Word Girl

    Thank you for your help, but I’m not a member, so not able to access to the listing of the 9.

  8. Chad says:

    Blink,
    Just read your post/response to Danielle

    I am a clone of mouse’s response, so sorry…..that is something that does, and indeed scars us when an event such as this taskes place. A deep injury does heals, but also leaves a scar, and the “skin” is never the same. Although life altering this event was, , what you have chosen to do with and how you deal with the outcome is so tranparent, so good in abundance. So motivativing. You have a great following, you are a good leader, so say I.
    Thank you for all you do on this site for the missing, perhaps forgotten, the misplaced, and the perished. But more importantly, it is so apparent, you are motivated within by your compassion for those as you have said so refinely “cannot speak for themselves”.

    ..”Thanks for sharing your wound…”

    Thank you for your kind words, that hit my bullseye. In comparison to the victims and their families in the mire I write about, I never considered myself wounded.
    B

    Thanks for sharing your wound.
    Morgan, where are you?

  9. Momof3 says:

    #345

    YES!!! Chad, Thank you, thanks for going there when you wrote:
    . “IMO I think Roxie is a friend and knows something. That post was pretty right on. She was talkin’ to the group dynamics of the 9. I have a 19 year old daughter, that language she was talkin, was a something I understood. Does anyone else feel this way about that post? I think that some of the 9 have posted on this thread, and perhaps on others.”

    Roxie chose to post this very enlightening comment on a thread that was long since devoid of activity. She is either, a friend, like you, in psychology, possibly a psychic or a poster who is too embarrassed to share her theories amongst a crowed forum.

    No, I don’t believe Morgan was the bully. She bought the tickets, she took her own car, she didn’t drive, she went to the bathroom alone, none of her friends immediately nor never ventured out of the arena to come and help all these things say to me that she was not in control or bullying the situation.

    Roxy makes mention of Morgan not being the bully when she wrote:
    “leaving to find respite at home is the sensible thing to do” – She was speaking of Morgan when she showed up home several times that week, staying the night even.

    Also when she wrote:
    “someone is not focused in pulling their weight or leaving one to spend more than their share. Thus, the bank account overdraft.”-
    She was speaking to Morgan chipping in more than her share with the apartment.

    Then she writes:
    “I believe there was already tension going on prior to the concert. I’m sure there have been bad concert nights or evenings in the past that may have harbored a little anger. Not to harm someone maliciously but things sometimes happen deserving of a pay back.”

    The part I did not understand was:
    “However, it would be interesting to see the video or what the cashiers have to say the day she went shopping as a measure of caution. There is always the possiblity a chain of events could have unfolded beforehand.”

    Did Morgan go shopping for the outfit she wore to the concert? My understanding is she had 3 outfits picked out, her mom helped her choose. Were these new? Is this when she found out her account was overdrawn?

    Roxy also made a comment on the first article Blink wrote on Morgan. It was posted on the Happy Hippy thread. Which had the last activity Nov 30-

    # Comment by Roxy — December 9, 2009 @ 7:36 pm

    You know Blink, it just occurred to me if Morgan sought first aid the night of the concert. If my memory serves me correctly I don’t recall anyone mentioning it that much or where the station was located in or outside the arena. Any wound that bleeds enough to notice may require some attention. Just food for thought.

    Chad, there is another poster that goes by the name spelled Roxie not Roxy I don’t know if they are the same.

    P.S Glad YOU made it over to this thread.

  10. Counselor4u says:

    @ Lizzy, Black Pearl, mjh, and Blink:

    Have you looked at the background of Construction company owners and employee(s)?

  11. Counselor4u says:

    Addendum: ….or Paving companies?

  12. Dar says:

    I’m not sure I should post this here or not Blink, it doesn’t actually fit in with what’s being discussed right now. You can decide if you want it here or if its nothing at all. I haven’t seen this mentioned on here and thought maybe it might be something. Figure if John Walsh is airing it on Americas most wanted and putting Morgans name in it…..maybe he knows something we don’t….I think this aired last night but not sure. Anyone see it?

    http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=amw

  13. lizzy says:

    Counselor4u, are you just asking or do you have something specific in mind? The only “employee” at present seems to be his brother-in-law.

  14. luvblink says:

    Lizzy #340
    That is definately the same Shannon from FB. He has a very unique way of writing. He really freaked me out when everyone was going to C’ville for the searches, he offered to drive the girls from Roanoke. I literally screamed at my monitor, you don’t know him, don’t trust anyone on here!

    quote from Lizzys link
    haha,this is halarious,,my dad was sick with pneumonia ,leaving me his son shannon to drive a truck and try 2 b th jobs foreman ,everytime i came back with asphalt th guys were behind th building,,later in court depositions ,it was proven that mr hatcher had come outside and handed out marijuana cigarettes 2 th laborors and said”th boss aint here ,lets all get high,i can get u sum of this for 50 dollars a quarter,they all got fired ,and mr.hatchers bid 2 b there drugdealer ,who knows,,as far as his driveway ,we tried 2 go back and look at it,he cussed and acted crazy and wanted it all redun,,,no dice chump,there was about a10 foot area that needed atention ,i told him ,itll b a cold day in hell,yors truly,,shannon mcdaniel

    From: Message Author (click here to email author)
    Date: Saturday, 22-Aug-09 09:31:41 CDT

  15. mag603 says:

    Also…did she go to the bathroom alone? Maybe the girls went together and there was some altercation in the bathroom and Morgan stormed off.

    questions, questions, questions…

  16. Chad says:

    Blink,

    Blink, I retract my statemnt. I assumed you were “wounded” but now I stand corrected. Please accept my apologizies for this (faux paux ) mis representing you in regards to that quote. Only you can represent yourself, and I was out of line of taking that liberty. None the less, I did find it profound when you revealed your heart, and or humaness? Perhaps that was what I should have said?

    Momof3-I am very interested in the post that you posted. I can’t believe I missed it. Was it here on BOC or another thread??? I would be very interested in hearing from ROXY as to her perspective of the hiearchy within the 9, and Morgan’s status. There is one, believe me. I realize that only 3 to 4 attended the concert that night out of the 9, but it would be interesting to have her comment on this.
    I only ask this question because the group dynamics could have affected how and why the “group” (peers at this age, emeshed in a group, seem to take on similar attitudes, opinions,language of each other, and also beliefs/and or actions of those beliefs of the group they are affiliated with) responded to Morgan in the manner that they did that night. Even though it may have been naive, it could have also been a response to an pre set “attitude” toward Morgan, or rank within the group prior to the concert, if you will towards Morgan, which now they probably ,and obviously regret.
    See below: Roxy post:

    There always seems to be one in every group that can be a bully or uses peer pressure as a means of getting their own way. Leaving to find respite back home is a sensible thing to do to get away from it all for awhile. It always seems too many pals are over, someone is not focused in pulling their weight or leaving one to spend more than their share. Thus, the bank account overdraft. There would be no reason to alarm loved ones because things between friends tend to eventually sort themselves out. However, it would be interesting to see the video or what the cashiers have to say the day she went shopping as a measure of caution. There is always the possiblity a chain of events could have unfolded beforehand.
    I’m not suggesting her friends are involved in her disappearance, but for this reason, I believe there was already tension going on prior to the concert. I’m sure there have been bad concert nights or evenings in the past that may have harbored a little anger. Not to harm someone maliciously but things sometimes happen deserving of a pay back.
    So, they already have tickets and decide to go and make the most out of it only for her to be left feeling like a third or fourth wheel. After falling, bleeding and possibly crying ..etc.. Morgan decides to go to the bathroom and finds herself tricked, lured or escorted out of the arena only to be denied re-entry. Arguing is the only thing that would make me wander around alone and its unlikely I would contact the one I’m at odds with.
    Morgan makes contact to let her friends know she cannot get back in the building. One of the friends say I’m coming out to help but they never do. While Morgan is waiting she decides to bum a few cigarettes and a coat to stay warm. Even though its said she quit smoking this scenario makes for a super bad day and I could see her making an exception. During this time someone speaks to her and empathizes with her situation but left her knowing what she intended to do.
    At this point Morgan called her friends to say never mind I’ll find a way home. A text message would seem more realistic considering it was a concert. It would be inconsiderate to leave otherwise so one would make sure the call was heard or message relayed. Obviously Morgan had manners to do so otherwise she would have just left without saying a word. Cell phone activity may have registered but I wonder if it elaborates on which type, a phone call or text message. The phone call may have been nothing more than garble or static and viewed as a crank call from someone merely joking around.

    Roxy knows Morgan, and Roxy knows these friends. She knows something.
    Thank you Momof3 for posting.

    My dear Chad-

    You should retract nothing. In no way did you mis step. I think I have a hard time articulating my motivations because I feel the weight of the burden to do it justice.

    I do much better analysis on almost any other situation, does that make sense?
    B

    Roxy, this post and my other response was directed t you. I hope that I have not confused any other Roxie by the spelling of your name.
    Yes, you are the one that we are discussing. Can you help us find Morgan? Appreciate your thoughtful post with which we are discussing.

  17. luvblink says:

    Blink,
    There is a guy on FB saying he is a remote viewer, very strange, but he posted about Morgans FB account.

    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=162224546575&topic=11362&start=90&hash=44d1e270205794ca1ae77c0e22674bfa

    Post #112Kevin McNeill wrote3 hours ago
    About the “Sports Team Connection” If you look on her facebook page i think you may be supprised. At the e-mails between her and some of the witnesses.

    I know you have had some access to her account. Is this guy as full of it as I think?

    It certainly seems to contain a slant on known info.
    B

  18. Momof3 says:

    Chad,
    Your welcome. I would never had read Roxy’s posts either except for the fact I went back to older threads to refresh my memory regarding a different issue.

    Yes, Roxy posted here at BOC. She posted on threads that were no longer being commented on… Here is a link to her posts, they are the last comments #202 and #161:

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/11/03/morgan-harrington-case-are-police-closing-in/#comments

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/10/29/missing-morgan-and-then-she-was-gone-morgan-harrington-vanishes-from-metallica-concert/#comments

  19. Chad says:

    Based on your list to the left, and the countless verifiable, hours you have spent on this site…….I do know you are so endlessly compassionate and such a voice for these victims. I admire you Blink. If I may (it is the holidays) serve you a quote for your question and perhaps speaks to your motvation for victims:

    Why did it come to me? Why was I chosen? (Frodo)
    Such questions cannot be answered… You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess: not for power or wisdom, at any rate. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have. (Gandalf)
    Frodo and Gandalf, Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings, by J.R.R. Tolkien

    You do not understand the why, but you certainly now what the hell to do with it! I love it! Peace and love to you for all you do Blink!

    Peace and Love to you, and all my friends-
    B

  20. BlackPearl says:

    Re: #363 Comment by bob-dog — December 20, 2009 @ 11:09 pm

    Just to clarify: The website for Shannon’s paving business lists a “physical” address and a “mailing” address. The mailing address that is given is a P.O. Box.

  21. suz says:

    Dar, i am too lazy to download the stuff needed to watch America’s Most Wanted, so can you just recount what was said? thanks!

  22. save an angel says:

    Is there any new information on Haleigh Cummings?

  23. Dar says:

    RE: #372 Suz
    There have been at least 4 girls (that they reported on) that they think were picked up by an over the road truck driver. They say that its easy for them to pick up a victim in one state and drop them in another state. The state that the body is found in has no clue that the body is from another state, really messes up the investigations because noone realizes the body belongs to another state. This is where he mentions Morgan…..basically it was like “Could this be what happened to Morgan Harrington on the night of Oct. 17th…..just kind of made me wonder. On another thread they were talking about possibly a truck picking up Morgan that could have been one of the bands before metallica…maybe like an equipment truck, not a semi…
    Somewhere I saw that you could also watch the America Most wanted on hulu.com and you don’t have to download anything to watch it….but I did not check that out. I also did not watch the whole episode because the player was starting and stopping every few seconds…lol so I don’t know if anything else was mentioned or not. Did anyone else watch this? I am just curious why John Walsh would put Morgans name in with that unless he was just trying to Keep Morgans name out there…I don’t know.

  24. Dar says:

    RE: Suz, try this link it works alot better then the other one.

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/116563/americas-most-wanted-episode-12

  25. suz says:

    It ain’t the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I’m smart! Not like everybody says… like dumb… I’m smart and I want respect! (Fredo)

    I may have never gotten any cheese, and it’s been a long, long time since my last Blink biscuit, but I’m still crazy about you, Blink, and the whole extended team, known and unknown. Let’s hope there will come a day when your site will no longer be needed. Peace and love to all.

    (and apologies to Chad about the Frodo/Fredo thing—I’m giddy because I am snowed out of my first day at work! woot!)

    My bad, 2 biscuits and a wisconsin cheddar, for the rap from your last post :)
    B

  26. localcvillegirl says:

    Morning everyone. Bob-dog, you are GOOD…I want to see the photos of these creep’s houses.

    Roxy, sweetie, if you’re out there, you may be the one who can help Morgan. It seems that she had friends who didn’t care enough about her to protect her…maybe you had seen this coming. I believe she has at least one friend who loves her. She needs your help now.

    Danielle, I respect your defense of HH. I really do. But when you’re older and a mom, you may look back and think “Wow, that really was a little creepy. There is no way my daughters are getting anywhere near anything like that.” It’s not just HH, it’s the people who surround him, and the people on the fringes. He may be the “greatest guy”; I love hippies, tye-die, and small-time local bands. That’s where I come from, too. But as the adult at the Round House, he’s responsible for everyone there, especially those under 21. As someone mentioned above, you guys will grow up and move on, and he’ll probably just flame out and die of a heart attack.

    Thanks again to everyone for posting the fb links…I’d never get to them myself.

  27. localcvillegirl says:

    I think that Kevin McNeill (fb) is a “remote viewer” because he’s up there with God, speaking to us from the heavens. Unfortunately he may be a day behind in his “readings.” Lots of love, though, and I can appreciate that.

  28. Karma says:

    RE: #368

    I read that remote viewing guys posts on the discussion forum. Doesn’t seem to stray from the typical spit-out-a-bunch-of-info-and-hope-something-sticks con that all so-called psychics do. The sad and extremely unfortunate fact is that more hunters and hikers find missing people than psychics have ever done…I don’t mean that to be a morbid joke, its just a sad fact.

    Peace.

  29. Josie says:

    Hi Blink and all:

    I feel at a loss to add anything. I really just want to let you guys (and gals) know I’m still with you and can see that you’re still very busy and not giving up. I’m still snowed in in Northern VA and worrying about getting home to SW VA to be with my family for the holiday.

    I’m thankful for all of you on this board and want to wish each of you and yours Happy Holidays! I’m still praying for Morgan, Dr. and Mrs. Harrington and Alex and hoping for a miracle.

  30. mosaic says:

    One of the theories we’ve been bouncing around is that the perpetrator is within Morgan’s large circle of friends or in the periphery of this circle. (Makes sense to me.)

    It’s interesting how this theory fits into the logistics of the evening…(bear with me, I’m trying to think in flow-chart form)

    Morgan’s scent was picked up by the dogs on the bridge, but no further. This implies that she entered a car. In this case, she either knew the driver or she did not know the driver. (“Knew” in this case meaning she recognized the person by name).

    Let’s follow with our “friend” theory and say she DID know the driver. Then one of the following would need to apply:

    1) the driver was summoned by Morgan for a ride
    2) the driver (who Morgan knew) happened *by chance* to be driving on Copeley Road, noticed MH hitching and stopped to pick her up
    3) the driver (who Morgan knew) was told or had overheard that Morgan was stranded outside the arena and came to find her.

    To elaborate:
    1) If the driver had been summoned by Morgan then this is someone she had previous communication with, someone in her tighter group of friends. She had access to his number in her cell phone…either in her contact list, or she retrieved his number from the history of incoming calls.

    Likewise, if she used someone else’s phone to summon her ride she’d have known driver’s number which underlines that this is someone she knows well.

    I’m not so sure the hippie group or the paver guy fits into this particular scenario.

    2) If the driver-who-knows-Morgan happened just by chance to run into Morgan on the bridge then I would say it was truly her most unlucky day. I think the likelihood of this is quite slim, my opinion.

    3) A fringe-friend overhearing about her situation is the scenario that gives me the willies. We do not know who textee is (blink and observer might!) but what if textee received a message from MH saying I’m stuck outside the concert and he mentioned it in a group of friends (“Man, that totally sucks, Morgan went to Metallica and she’s stuck outside”). Friend of a friend sees a nefarious opportunity.

    What I’m getting at is this: There seems to be a limited number of possible scenarios if indeed a friend (or friend-of-a-friend) is involved. Not good news for the perp if this is in fact the case…he will be dug out.

  31. Counselor4u says:

    Blink,

    Not asking for any cynical reason, just to refresh an old brain, please.

    Were all three of the basketball players (witnesses) identified?

    No
    B

  32. Jane says:

    I continue to read all the above posts. I’m nowhere near in the league of these “supersleuths” but still believe that Morgan’s friends hold the key. I think they all know exactly why she left the arena and who she was meeting. Seems to me LE may need to start from scratch. They might have been intentionally mislead from the get go.

  33. GuyfromPortugal says:

    Suz i really laughed readind your impression of Shannon-Cent-Diddy-Dogg.

    Props for you.

    Respect!

  34. bob-dog says:

    Re: Black Peark #371

    Thanks for pointing out the PO mailing address. I didn’t remember seeing it on the website.

  35. suz says:

    Yo, g money, my main OG, G to the P, straight up Portugal in da hizzouse! Thanks for representin’. That other dude be perpatratin’ while I’m parlayin’ the true gangsta style. You feel me? Dude’s a punk, with all his paving junk (I keep my junk in the trunk, ba dunka dunk). Peace out!

    Wow, I think I created a monster.
    B

  36. suz says:

    Jane, I do believe the friends do hold the key, BUT I don’t think we have any reason to believe they haven’t spilled their guts to LE. I am quite sure LE knows a ton more than we do about how Morgan scraped her chin, why she left the arena, and lots of other things. They aren’t sharing any of that info with us for some reason, but I am pretty sure they have it as well as (I’m willing to bet) photos from the event.

    Having said all that, I could be completely wrong! But I don’t think we have gotten any indication from the police that the friends are stonewalling. I understand the friends not wanting to talk to the public about what happened. Best to lie low and stay out of the fray. But I sure wish we knew more.

  37. suz says:

    Sorry, Blink! Every once in awhile I just get all Shannoned up.

  38. Chad says:

    That’s the way Pop wanted it. (Michael to Fredo)

  39. lakeluver says:

    Morning Sue,

    No, this is not HH, this is a friend of the two boys for which Rooster Walk was started.

    # Comment by sue — December 20, 2009 @ 12:05 am

    Is this what’s his name?

    The Hippie? Oh my….

    http://events.bassettsports.com/Home/tabid/148/AlbumID/622-204/Page/13/Default.aspx

  40. rita says:

    Although I’m riveted by all posts here and think Morgan may possibly have known the driver and a local destination, (somewhere to visit until the concert ended), I can’t go further in theory. Someone, (likely a circle of someones), know more, imo, and until information surfaces, the puzzle pieces remain unknown spaces. Mercy, I hold Morgan’s family in my thoughts and prayers these next days, and always, until Morgan comes home to them.

  41. lakeluver says:

    Momof3,
    Thanks for taking the time to cut and paste all of OYE’s posts.
    “Veddy interesting..”

    I agree with lizzy, someones petticoats are in a wad.
    This one line really stood out to me, anyone else find it “sketchy” ?

    oye said “I’m sure if she said anything about the injury it was while recalling a litany of sh*tty things that had happened to her in the last hour.”

  42. mosaic says:

    blink — thanks for allowing me the chance to theorize (upthread). I see we might be past the stage of general theorizing as it appears LE might be onto something. That is my hope.

    Here’s my wish for peace to you and the rest of the incredible posters on this site. And a special hope for peace to the Harringtons.

  43. RNmom says:

    Was Shannon working at the wings place that night? Also, question for anyone that may know. Could search dogs pick up Morgan’s scent off of another person? Maybe if she hadn’t been there but someone that had been really close to her had????

  44. Mary L. says:

    Suz, Post #386

    LMAO!!! I could hear the music thumping!

  45. Momof3 says:

    #393 lakeluver, You are welcome. I am not sure if OYE is a friend of Morgan (or Roxy), but I feel it speaks volumes that since this was brought to light, we have not been blessed with OYE’s presence.

    Thank you for pulling out this quote:
    “I’m sure IF she said anything about the injury it was while recalling a litany of sh*tty things that had happened to her in the last hour.”
    It got me to thinking that both OYE and Roxy post in a way that makes you assume what they say is fact except like in the quote referenced by you, and in Roxy’s 2nd post also talking about Morgan’s injury… (cap on word IF by me)

    Roxy wrote:
    You know Blink, it just occurred to me IF Morgan sought first aid the night of the concert. If my memory serves me correctly I don’t recall anyone mentioning it that much or where the station was located in or outside the arena. Any wound that bleeds enough to notice may require some attention. Just food for thought.

  46. redly says:

    RNMom 394 — the wings place in question is in charlottesville, not roanoke or wherever it is the shannon character is from (and worked). Virginia is a very big state and c’ville is a long way away from roanoke and blacksburg (where virginia tech is located). If she was going to call someone from outside charlottesville to come pick her up — harrisonburg (where jmu is located) or the richmond area are the major places that would make sense for that person to be coming from (or one of many small towns along the way to those places).

  47. hummingbird says:

    Re #370: Bravo Chad could not have found a better quote myself!!
    Have been trying to articulate exactly this regarding Blink and the trail she is helping to blaze for the lost, the forgotten, the victimized, other families precious loved ones and thus shining a light into the darkness and exposing the epidemic proportions of this ongoing and tragic trend.
    THANK YOU again Blink and all involved now back to my wheel.

    Ty Friend.
    B

  48. suz says:

    Momof3, yeah, that first aid thing is interesting, but the timeline is so tight—from the time she kisses her friends goodbye (still odd) and goes either to smoke or to the bathroom or both, to the time she finds herself locked out of JPJ—I wonder when she could have had a chance to seek aid. No one ever described blood, so I have pictured it as a strawberry scrape perhaps on her chin—just raw skin, not anything dripping blood. But, I dunno for sure cuz…no one will tell us! aaargh

  49. suz says:

    Mary L., shhhhhh. It only encourages me! Cuz dat’s how I roll…

    Chad: Taken care of me? I’m your older brother, Mike, and you’re taking care of me? Did you ever think about that?

    Lakeluver: that sure looks like a very HH getting a HH haircut

    Mosaic: I liked your flowchart post. Right now I’m thinking the perp is a tiny little bit familiar fringe friend (“Say, didn’t I see you at the launch party for xyz?” or “aren’t you a friend of DJ so and so?”). I don’t think it’s an ex or a current love interest, or a friend she called for a ride. Or a friendly stranger. I think she was really hitching on that bridge.

    NOW…if we ever learn for sure why she left the arena, or who she was texting, or get clarity on why LE asks if anyone loaned her a phone, then I might change from stranger or fringe friend to someone she’s closer to.

  50. mosaic says:

    RNMom — I have no experience whatsoever with search dogs — but that’s an interesting question if they might have mistakenly picked up her scent carried by someone else. I hope someone can answer your question.

    FWIW…here’s a description of searching from the US Search & Rescue Task Force website:

    “The trailing dog, often referred to as a “tracking” dog…is directed to find a specific person by following minute particles of human tissue or skin cells cast off by the person as he or she travels. These heavier-than-air particles, which contain this person’s scent, will normally be close to the ground or on nearby foliage, so the trailing dog will frequently have its “nose the ground,” unlike the air scent dog.”

    “Each dog is usually worked in a harness, on a leash, and given an uncontaminated scent article (such as a piece of clothing) belonging to the missing person. The dog follows that scent and no other. At times, the dog may track, following the person’s footsteps, or air scent, and home in on the subject’s scent.”

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