Missing VT Student Morgan Harrington Body Found Near Charlottesville
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Abermarle Cty– VA
While official confirmation is not expected until the earliest this evening, sources inside the investigation have confirmed to blinkoncrime.com that the remains located on Anchorage Farm in South Abermarle County are that of missing Virginia Tech Student Morgan Dana Harrington.
Property Records reflect the farm is owned by The Bass Family, but has no known association to Morgan or the Harrington family.
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re: sue #580 where’s the person that took her there?
Possibilities:
1) She met up with some one when first arriving in Charlottesville, and went to a party in that area she was found prior to the concert, and stayed there, or went to a party after being stuck outside JPJ. They partied and she, in an under the influence state wandered off. At a big party who would notice one girl had left? Person that took her there is either a bg and doesn’t want to say anything or is too under the influence to realize Morgan is the girl he brought/or thinks the girl he brought left with some one else.
2) She met up with some one when first arriving in Charlottesville, and went to a party in that area she was found prior to the concert, and stayed there or went to a party after being stuck outside JPJ. She partied there until some one at the party tried to take advantage of her (whether she was or was not under the influence is immaterial here, she is a victim either way) she flees the party and get’s lost. Person that brought her there is definately a bg and doesn’t want to be known.
In either of these cases, the way she was dressed, and the weather that night, it would not take long of hypothermia to set in.
3) She met up with some one when first arriving in Charlottesville, and went to a party in that area she was found prior to the concert, and stayed there or went to a party after being stuck outside JPJ. She partied there and went for a walk with fellow partiers who were so under the influence they didn’t realize she was no longer walking with them. Person that took her there doesn’t realize she is gone.
4) She met up with some one when first arriving in Charlottesville, and was on her way to to a party in that area she was found prior to the concert, and stayed there or went to a party after being stuck outside JPJ. While on the way to the party, some one with her noticed cows in a pasture, and decided, in an under the influence state, to pull over, climb a fence and go cow tipping. Once across the fence she wandered off, and they looked for her but coulnt find her, and went on to their party. Again, people she was with are partying, don’t realize a girl they just met isn’t there anymore. By the time they realize it was Morgan, they are afraid to come forward.
Sorry, hit enter to quickly.
Going to the Albemarle Rescue & Fire page, there is a map, but it doesn’t show that one little rescue station at my 1st link above. Don’t know why, and can’t read the name of the squad. Anybody else make out what it is?
http://www.albemarle.org/upload/images/forms_center/departments/fire_and_rescue/forms/Stations_Map.pdf
blink-
i was wondering if you still believe that an arrest is imminent?
I live in one of the 5 safest standard statistical metropolitan areas in the US. There are approximately 40 registered SOs in the 3 zip codes surrounding me. That’s probably as good as it gets. It’s everywhere.
comment 597 by Ross #4:
Omg, I finally got a laugh after 2 days of such sorrow, re: cow tipping…
My oldest son & his gf (both 18), have had recent events of wandering into people’s pastures for the great sport of cow tipping. Could really be a possibility, ya know…
Suz–good point. I am thinking that *if* the fire was connected to Morgan, then the tip-off came either directly or indirectly from the farmer himself. It could have been as simple as him pulling his tractor out of the garage prior to him using it.
Also, I do not believe that Morgan met her demise in the field. I would have to know the condition of the body and especially shoes (drag marks, etc) to give a better-dressed guess but to me the field screams of Second Location. I think the 1st location is probably the perps car or home. More likely the former.
Also, I think that perhaps the body was not hidden because the perp intended to go back and better cover his tracks after initially dumping her. He probably didn’t expect this to be such a high-profile case. At any rate—he must be a POI of suspect the police have been on to him and not want to risk returning to the scene.
Okay..I’ve been doing dishes and thinking. My thoughts are a little out there but bear with my what if’s and blink if you feel this is too much to post I understand.
What if RSO and friend’s who live down the road….say in an apartment that recently burned down, decide to take a ride down to JPJ arena to see if they can score some tickets or drugs or just hang out in the parking lot and meet girls. Either in the lot or while driving over the bridge to exit the arena they come across Morgan and offer a ride or to come party with them until the concert is over. She accepts and ends up at said apartment with a RSO and his buddies. She is either raped or OD’s or something happens and as was mentioned in an earlier post, someone was not ready to go back to prison. These scumbags freak out throw her in the car, drive down to that subdivision that backs up to that farm they know of down the road and more than one guy carries her out there, making it much more plausible given the terrain. They get back to the house and “oh sh*t, we still have her purse”. They figure to drive back and dump it in the parking lot where they picked her up to make it look like an abduction. Over the past several days as this RSO’s name gets thrown around he gets paid a visit, thinks they are on to him and has the friends burn down the house because he’s afraid her scent could be detected there. I think it may be a coincidence the farmer found the body the same day, unless one of these guys worked for the farmer and knew he was going to check the fences that morning and she would be found.
I know it’s all a stretch but anything is possible. I am firmly starting to believe this will be more than one person involved.
ross, lol, i knew it was only a matter of time before cow tipping entered the equation.
I like your scenarios because no one murders her and she is having fun at a party beforehand.
I hope you are right, but the M.E. might have bad news for us all about how she died (or maybe not…who knows what tests can reveal).
Ross, respectfully, if she died of hypothermia why would the police say it is a homicide investigation? They are privy to the condition of the body and in partial/skeletal remains hypothermia would be a hard thing to determine with the naked eye. We have heard nothing about them suspecting an “accident.”
Hi Everyone- I like many of you had trouble sleeping last night- just imagine what it must have been like for members of “the Nine”. These girls have a heavy burden to carry. They let her leave, not one of them went out or at least to the gate to make sure she was ok- give her her keys or heaven forbid stay with her- make sure she was safe- speak to a security person and ask about shelter for their friend on a cold and rainy night. Yikes- that is a terrible thing to have on your shoulders. I hope that they have some idea as to who Morgan may have met up with- maybe the location of the body will be helpful. Did they party nearby before hand? Did Morgan call someone she pre-gamed with to come and get her? That pocketbook thing drives me a bit batty! I am of the belief that it was dumped after the fact. I just can’t figure out how hundreds of people leaving a concert would not notice a bag on the ground. I think the BG came back in the wee hours and left it there- it’s not likely he slept like a baby after he did the deed. I need this case to be solved…quickly!! My D is in Va at school- makes a mom uneasy to be sure. I bombard her daily with “be safe” text messages… and yes I have purchased the Gift of Fear for her. Seeing the 20 year old SO just freaked me out- on any given night my D could fall for his act in a second…. sigh
God Bless Morgan
Chad, i meant to answer this earlier and honestly, I just forgot –
what an amazing person your brother-in-law is — Every member of my family died at MCV hospital in Richmond — and I almost died there, too, but the incredible staff saved my life — but my family was so lucky — the drs. and nurses caring for them — and this was a span of 20+ years — were just amazing.
It is often the erroneous perception, I think, of the public that drs. just play golf on Wednesdays and cash their enormous paychecks on Friday. My step-father died from cirrocis (sp?) of the liver — but he did not drink nor take drugs. They think it was exposure to chemicals when he was in the military, coupled w/ exposure to fertilizer and pesticides when he was a child growing up on the family farm — MCV is a teaching hospital, but his physicians and those students worked diligently trying to figure out what happened and find a cure.
After the deaths of each one, I receive’d phone calls from their nurses in the weeks that followed to see how we were holding up. I read an article which quoted Dr. H about a new funding project that merged research — I don’t really remember the details, but it was obvious he was very excited for the good it could potentially lead to — Gil goes to Africa twice a year to help children who have lost their parents — now she will return as a parent who has lost her child —
this is an amazing family
I know God is with them during this difficult time …
PS Give your BiL a hug for me — then ask him to give you one for me, too : )
>>Comment by Enquirer — January 27, 2010 @ 9:16 pm
#584 – Sistersue
He also has a conviction in 2008 for sexual battery.<<
Can someone tell me why this guy is not in jail ?
“I want to know when the grad students moved out before their daughter moved in.
B”
Isn’t she away – - Harvard student?
skyler #611, seems like the question that gets asked all too often, doesn’t it? it’s almost as if we’re meant to walk in constant fear. they’re all around us, just waiting.
#601
Exactly 4 miles from EMS (North Garden) station to Anchorage Farm. When looking for this it comes up as volunteer.
fish – re: “J2K: Hey! Working it all out. My sister was running from one of these and lost so it just hit me hard but am ready to get on with it! Although, it makes me sick to my stomach, I am ready to bang a few ideas around concerning a story of ‘Maybe?’”
Lobes…? What happened with your sister?
And mInd you, I am the Mistress of Maybes, my friend.
You also cryptically quoted me:
“… Not sensing the first part is on the money, though. There would have been such a small window – literally between 9:25 and 9:30. …”
and advised:
“J2K: Concerning the last part. Please check for yourself. VA Court System and Sex Offender Registry. The slip through the cracks? Look at dates concerning his record.”
My Thinking Goglet [sic] needs a refill. Please help.
but, fish, you ended on:
“… Maybe, he is one lucky mutha-effer and his time is runnin’ out!”
To that, I say: “Word.*”
Rob, my Man of Many A Good Point – noted:
“I still can not see how he would return to place the purse in the lot. There must be an alternative explanation that we have missed and it is much more simple than expect. Crime is usually much more simple than we give it credit for.”
While I think there may be a low-double-digit chance that an evil-yet-stupid perp would have felt a flickering fluorescent bulb buzz above his head post-crime and become inspired to swing back by the spot he picked her up, I also contend that, crikey – this dude might have been recognized by his beeps-when-be-backs-up helmet, if that seemed like a brilliant idea. Anyone with access to a television knows what DNA is/or at least its implications, and he may have done this sort of thing before. Why would he purposely lose control of The Evidence when he could have simply made her … disappear?
M., noted:
“I believe she died the night of Oct 17 and that the crime took place away from the farm. October 17 was dark, cold, rainy and the location difficult to get to. I believe her body has been hidden somewhere else, and the perp moved to to the farm sometime later when he could do so and no one would think twice about seeing him on an ATV or other vehicle – e.g., someone with permission to hunt or be on the property for other reasons. I believe the evidence at the scene will support that.”
Great addition to the pool of possibilities, M. My only follow-ups would be: where was she kept? And, why, with access to all of that vast open space and mountainous, ravine-laced, water-dotted country would one carry/bundle-and-drive/otherwise dump her body in such a relatively public (i.e. close to civilization/near private-property space?
It seems more like either a Desperation or Unplanned or Opportunity dump.
Ain’t nothin’ stro-tee-gic ’bout that spot.
rvrb, noted:
“Observer asked about rental houses in Blandemar. I wouldn’t be surprised. At least one went into foreclosure last year and is now owned by the bank.”
r – One possibility is: 3205 Bandemar Dr., but can’t identify location on a map, yet.
I am willing – and suggest to others with some free time right now – to back-arrow through Craigslist and scane though Cvill-area rentals put on the underground market between late October and January.
http://charlottesville.craigslist.org/apa/
PamVA, noted:
“I’m wondering if Morgan had a pre-arranged meeting with someone to pick her up on that bridge. … I wonder if BG had planned for a while (6 months?) what would happen next. … Also, this could be mistaken for HH, as others have mentioned here, she could have been kidding around with this person with her thumb out. I’ve done that plenty of times joking around. My gut is saying prearranged and premeditated.”
I don’t know, Pam… This was discussed much here several months ago, and while I never bought it, some/many here have — in fact, the details being released about her discovery are only serving to bolster the Nefarious-Plot theory, wherein someone who knows her devise her murder around her long-planned-trip to a far-off city’s major concert event.
That still seems to… Lifetime based-on-a true-story crime drama to me. I know there are sick, twisted, sociopathic individuals who live and work among us, but these folks are rare; most murder is triggered by opportunity or passion. It is illogical to me that an ex or someone who was in love with her/stalking her from afar could operate so under the radar – i.e., not a developed POI yet – and was the recipient of so much fortunate happenstance in regard to his designs:
The arena discharge/no re-admittance; the (irrational need to get back to a party in Hburg/or other reason she *had* to get a ride out of town when her car was there, i.e., the (more rational) get-her-keys-and-wait response to the unexpected situation; the (bizarrely blase reaction from her Friends inside the arena when she told them she was stuck outside; etc. — all of the factors that make this case such a mystery also reduce the chance that it could have been easily plotted in advance, as it appears like a domino-effect of decisions that led her to coincide with someone who caused her death.
skler – re: Word…?
“You’ve all become so dear to me, even when I had no idea what Suz or is it Sue and J2K were saying at times — and, showing my age here, what does ‘word’ at the end of the sentence mean ? ha”
Word:
1) A versatile declaration, originating (more or less) in hip-hop culture.
“Word” has no single meaning, but is used to convey a casual sense of affirmation, acknowledgement, agreement, or to indicate that something has impressed you favorably.
2) “Word” is the shortened form of the phrase: “my word is my bond” which was originated by inmates in U.S. prisons. The longer phrase was shortened to “word is bond” before becoming “word,” which is most commonly used. It basically means “truth.” Or “to speak the truth.”
3) well said; said in a agreement
4) can be used as a greeting, “hey whats up?”
Word, sky-to-the-Ler?
(Now allow me to guide you to an alley of knowledge that will make your son ATWMP:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/popular.php?character=A)
Word.
I also believe it says CARS Squad- Charlottesville- Albemarle Rescue Squad
Blink,
If I may ask a question to you directly, or if we have anyone here that may have expertise in this area, please chime in:
How long in your opinion, would it take ME to determine the COD, (considering Morgan’s decop state, I assume that she was fully skeletonized….ouch…that was painful to write!) Will they release to the public, or do you think keep sealed?
Do you think that ME will also be able to determine the time of death? Some news reports have described the remains as partially skeletonized. If there is skin, or perhaps some other tissues, do you think toxology is out of the question to be determined with Morgan? I know that they can do some pretty intense tests for determiners. Thoughts?
Mandy: I think your posts are excellent.
Sue , Suz: my thinking would be that there may be a possiblity that the body of Morgan may have been moved. I believe that anything is possible.
Others on this thread also indicate that because of other nature forces at work : ie the weather, rains, snow, wind, may have naturally moved the body from the original place Morgan haid laid. I am not sure if she was found on a hill, or on a slight incline, or down ward incline. I don’t know.
Also, as Blink points out, Morgan could have been brought and then placed at the tree line, and animals could have moved her to the current location.
Or…….Morgan perp could have had her secured at another location (perhaps near or closer to the house that accidentally went up in flames) , and had moved her there recently.
I dunno!!
Both in the KC Anthony case, there was weather conditions that may have affected the location of Caylee. I do not follow that particlar case to closely, but I know that at one time, the area in which she was found was flooded, which at the time, some suspected caused Caylees body to surface.
Just my thoughts. I could be all wrong. I just am anxious to hear of any reports from LE.
I am going to defer to comments I made already Chad. It is as comfortable as I am going to be for now.
B
In reply to the Fish/rabbit19/POYE post below, I Googled the line “Tomorrow’s gonna come too soon” on a hunch & found lyrics by Eve 6–
So denied
So I lied
Are you the now or never kind
In a day
And a day love
I’m gonna be gone for good again
Are you willing
To be had
Are you cool
With just tonight
Here’s a toast
To all those who hear me all too well
Here’s to the nights
We felt alive
Here’s to the tears
You knew you’d cry
Here’s to goodbye
Tomorrow’s gonna come too soon
Put your name
On the line
Along with place and time
Wanna stay
Not to go
I wanna ditch the logical
Here’s a toast
To all those who hear me all too well
Here’s to the nights
We felt alive
Here’s to the tears
You knew you’d cry
Here’s to goodbye
Tomorrow’s gonna come too soon
All my time is froze in motion
Can’t I stay an hour or two or more
Don’t let me let you go
Don’t let me let you go
Here’s a toast
To all those who hear me all too well
Here’s to the nights
We felt alive
Here’s to the tears
You knew you’d cry
Here’s to goodbye
Tomorrow’s gonna come too soon
Too soon
Here’s to the nights we felt alive
Here’s to the tears you knew you’d cry
Here’s to goodbye
Tomorrow’s gonna come too soon
———————————————–
# Comment by fish — January 26, 2010 @ 5:12 pm
Comment by rabbit19 — January 26, 2010 @ 4:23 pm
POYE posted: “tomorrow’s gonna come too soon..” 14 hours ago.
where? Link please.
Tia
B
Does this time coincide for the fire in North Garden??? Who owns this house??? Is there a connection? Where is the dog? Is there a shed on this property?
Fire destroys evidence and smells. Were the UVA kids booted out or did they decide to leave. Did they go to Metallica concert????????
These questions should be asked and asked STAT!!!!
OYE: I pray that you had a moment of clarity!
@ justice: on the GIS site map you referenced, if you click on it, it gives the name “CARS Rescue Squad (in green) near North Garden Fire Station (in red). .i looked up CARS STATION and it might be Charlottesville-Albemarle Rescue Squad? I am making some leaps with that info. ..what are you thinking?
skyler, the two rape counts were in juvie court.
2008 in adult circuit court, but that VA statute on sexual battery is:
18.2-67.4. Sexual battery. Sexual battery occurs when the accused sexually abuses the alleged victim against his or her will by force, threat, intimidation or ruse. Sexual battery is a class 1 misdemeanor.
It is punishable by up to 12 months in jail and/or a fine of up to $2,500. From what I can discern, typical time served is a month or two, and suspended sentences are not unusual for a first offense.
Do you feel safe now?
Here’s my thoughts on the location of the body. Most everyone agrees this is a known location to the monster. The Bass family has lived there for 30 years. The monster is believed to be a local. Somehow I believe the monster to link to their daughter. Either from childhood or more recently. I am not sure of her age, however, Mr. Bass appears somewhat young. (given people are living to be 100+) Maybe someone who at one time hung out with her there.
Ross, all of your scenarios involve a ‘party’. Don’t you think it’s likely, with the visibility of this case, that at least someone might have come forward and mentioned that they had been to the party with her that night?
Surely there had to be someone there that would have come forward and reported it to police. Plus, this location is extremely remote, don’t you think?
So, you think Morgan left the ‘party’ and went for a walk to get some air ( all the while heavily intoxicated) and just happened to end up in no man’s land?
Not likely in my opinion. I will, however, concede that perhaps she died from exposure after someone took her to this location. Someone whose intentions were not good.
If some poor shmo defense attorney plans on trying to feed this rubbish to a jury, then I do wish him luck.
Re: #608 Comment by Mandy — January 27, 2010 @ 9:42 pm
Ross, respectfully, if she died of hypothermia why would the police say it is a homicide investigation? They are privy to the condition of the body and in partial/skeletal remains hypothermia would be a hard thing to determine with the naked eye. We have heard nothing about them suspecting an “accident.”
I wasn’t advocating that was the way she died, just pointing out the possibilities that she could have died from hypothermia. And even if it was hypothermia as cause of death, it could still be homicide – she could have been knocked unconcious, and left there, she could have been chased there, fallen down, and left there, etc. If some one intended her to be there, and hypothermia is the cause of death, it would still be homicide.
I’m sure you all have already researched this and gotten it all figured out, but we have 66 registered sex offenders in Albemarle County. WTF? Not a one of them looks normal, except for maybe Howell. Their heads are not even shaped right. There are women, too. I’m just disgusted.
Smythe, I hear the party this weekend has been downgraded to a single kegger.
Blink, feel free to yell at me. Tasteless, I know. BUT, in my defense, that is directed at Morgan’s ‘friend’s', and stems from the anger that I feel at the indifference they showed towards her by publicly posting those photos of themselves ‘chugging their beers’ in front of the 2-4-1 posted on the glass door.
Only a mere two weeks after she disappeared.
I do,however, take comfort in the fact that those photos will live in infamy on the internet, and perhaps come back to haunt them in more ways than one.
Sorry, no energy for that. Hav at it.
B
1. sue 1/27, 7:55pm: I respect your perspective tremendously and look forward to your posts; however, I submit that no one is being lied to about the circumstances surrounding the discovery, location, etc. of Morgan’s remains. I am absolutely firm in this belief.
2. As stated earlier, I have been to Anchorage Farm twice, several years ago. At that time several individuals rented the large home. The individual I visited there was not a graduate student, however, but had graduated from UVA several years prior and was at that time working in Cville. As of at least two years ago (but quite possibly much longer) he no longer lived there as he had gotten married. [This description is in no way intended to cast any light of suspicion on him. It is intended only to clarify that, while my friend’s roommates may have been graduate students, not all tenants of the main house were current graduate students at UVA--at least not several years ago.]
3. For reasons I cannot even fathom right now (because I am so tired I have no place to even try to fathom anything right about now, let alone try to post a coherent thought here), I have come to believe that the BG did not drive up Anchorage Road. I believe that the BG is familiar with the area proximate to Anchorage Farm, he entered the distant Anchorage Farm property from a different entry point and, by intent, deposited Morgan’s body where he did.
Equally as important, I now believe Mandy may well be onto something, re: Second Location; homicide possibly committed earlier/elsewhere.
I cannot see the BG entering Anchorage Farm via Anchorage Farm Rd. and traversing the property in the dark to the site. In contrast, however, I absolutely ascribe to cvilleconcerned’s earlier posit that the BG took perhaps one of the other back “ruts”/ways in to the enter the Anchorage Farm property, esp. given the apt description of the ground surface capabilities as seen in cvilleconcerned’s above post and the one that referenced the off-the-beaten-path to that rural mailbox near the stand of trees and adjacent field.
4. susanm 1/27, 8:08pm: The BG could have brought/placed Morgan there, either on the night of Oct. 17, 2009 or later, knowing that this is an area of the expansive Anchorage Farm property that is rarely visited by the owners, thereby allowing for a long time to transpire (for purposes of evidence degradation and predation) between crime and discovery of scene.
5. cj 1/27, 8:33pm: You may be onto something, re: a hunter…
6. Justice 1/27, 8:44, re: JVM comment–That is preCISEly what I am suggesting: alternate route into Anchorage Farm from adjacent area.
7. skyler 1/27, 9:15pm: I would be most pleased to accompany you-all (and meet you IRL); however, you’re correct: unfortunately I cannot.
Really going to sleep now…….honest……..zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
By the way, I suggest that everyone not just be aware of how many RSOs there are, but take a good long look at their photos on a regular basis. Maybe they’re the greeter at Walmart, or the nice woman at the convenience store, who invites your kids behind the counter so they can watch her make the smoothies, or the cute tow truck guy who flirts with your daughter while changing your battery, or the person who you meet in the grocery line. Or..
I started doing this once a month back when my oldest was a very striking 2-year-old. People were always following us in stores, and touching her hair or something when I turned to get something from the shelf. One day when she was 3, I confronted a man who had been following us relentlessly around Sam’s Club, peering around corners, etc. He said “isn’t she on TV or in an ad or something?” Knowing the pics of the convicted local creeps is a small measure, but it is one of the steps that I could think to take to protect her. What the hell am I going to do when she leaves for college?
Maybe the coincidental timing of the 20-year-old’s records being updated the day before, or the house fire’s happening (if related) hours before is a simple matter of this new search organization from NC starting to ask questions about that area and people in it. Am sure they’d started to look at him and perhaps talk to his PO. Remember they’d just planned a new search of that area …
But I still wonder who was privy to Mr Bass’ plan to check fences yesterday.
Goodnight all. Observer I hope I made some people smile today, and I certainly gave my girls a longer squeeze and extra I love you tonight. Thinking of the Harringtons and hoping some rest will come for them tonight.
localcvillegirl, i am of the definite opinion that it is easier for the ugly pervs and abusers to get convicted than for the normal and cute ones. I mean, hey, after all, what girl wouldn’t say yes to a good-looking guy, right?
Don’t trust someone just cuz their head is a normal shape, k?
“You think she threw it out herself as instructed. So do I. B”
and…
“It is my belief either she threw it out as instructed OR Perp tossed it unbenknownst to her, or he tossed it out in front of her. B”
and…I believe that he was ragin’ mad!!
Made her throw that battery, we would never find it, too small.
Made her then “chuck the purse”!
How do we know if he wasn’t ragin’ on something himself? Drugs? We don’t! Would love to be able to give him a pee-test, wait…if he had to report to probation officer, maybe he did give one!
There may be a record of this.
If he got a clean record then above commment from me is just
dumb-stupid but maybe he was still on something back to concert? drugs or drink? Feeling a High?
OR…if we go down the route of a friend helps a friend. Maybe there was the incident and then the help to cover it up.
After all, he needed to be back for the Metallica concert anyway…
“so you take the purse!”
Although, I’d think to think someone would have cracked by now.
“Surely someone would have noticed a fighting and screaming Morgan.”
Not if she was quickly disabled, dear friend. A hit, a cloth over the face or just being restrained by another passenger.
localcvillegirl: maybe he came prepared like a boyscout? She’s 120 pounds and inhebriated. How long do I think it would take to knock her out? Not long if you are a mean SOB!!! Or if it’s a tag team.
Chad: I think that after I got my ass handed to me by OYE, POYE, DOYE or whatever she wants to be called, about JMU. I would love to go rehash! I could only hope that OYE came to her senses and made a phone call about someone. About Roxie, God help that person if they never found out what the scratches were from and that they didn’t tell someone!
I think that this guy was definitely known, with a capital D, known to the entire group of kids. They just weren’t ‘fraid, well, they should be now! As to Roxie’s comment, “Maybe she was going to a relative’s house”. I am now wondering if she did mean a relative of Morgan? Or did she mean one of Sarah’s or Amy’s??? Does a sister, brother, cousin live in Cville? let’s include Dan. Maybe one that was havin the pre-concert “partay”???
Comment by SisterSue — January 27, 2010 @ 8:35 pm
Although, I am not an advocate for SO’s in anyway shape or form, HOWEVER I cannot help but almost feel sorry for this one 20 YO in particular, that people are naming left and right!!! Has anyone thought to look at his date of conviction? In 2006. If he is twenty now…. he would have been 16 years old at the time. We have no idea what his case was actually about now do we? Im sure I will take flack for this… but I just had to say it. This guy may be trying to get his life back in order and people are accusing him of murder left and right on various forums! Although speculation can be a good thing, COME ON! (p.s. I love your site Blink)
SisterSue: Let me be the first one for the Love of God to set you straight. Although, I do understand you are not his advocate and agree with speculation of this case. Thank the Lord above!
There is someone to do this job for him. It’s called a PO! Do I care if he is getting his life back on track? Sure as shit do!!! He is the convicted VIOLENT offender. He should be doing just that!!! But if he is so concerned and you believe in him!!!
Then tell him to REGISTER for me, PALEEZE!!!!!
He did the crime, the time, the crime, the time; is this a cycle? Also, guess what it’s called MEGAN’S LAW or State Registry, whatever, for a reason.
Follow the rules, kiddo and the PO PO won’t come knockin’ on your door!! Go say a prayer for me and maybe for him too!!!
I can honestly say that I speculate for a reason. I have no clue what happened to Morgan but someone bad came her way!
If somehow a name as been mentioned, well, OK………OH.
See don’t give it much thought. Morgan remained missing for 101 days and then she is found and we now KNOW, we have a murderer amongst us. The police have tiplines for a reason. They help solve crimes!
IMPORTANT HERE! The tipline has just evolved into the thing called the World Wide Web and the thingy called Justice!
I can only give this of me, I searched in person and now I search on the WWW!
Like I told my wise, cyber friend OYE, I am makin’ it my job to keep my EYES WIDE OPEN.
Maybe this will make a difference. Sorry, I apologize to anyone that may have been offended by all of us talkn’ about you.
See, if you have nothin’ to hide…you have nothin’ to hide.
People have proved that, they came on and talked openingly, to all of us knowing full well, LE was on this site!
Also, I think and don’t quote me but I think that Suz said it the best on another thread altogether!
(paraphrasing Suz) ITS CALLED FREE SPEECH, BABY, FREE SPEECH!!
JUSTICE FOR MDH!!!
localcvillegirl, did not intend that to be flip. Just looking at those mug shots can lull you into complacency if you’re not careful, thinking you’ll stay away from peeps like that, you know? Meant as a true caution, not sarcasm, but when I read my post, it sounded wrong.
Sorry the link didn’t work B, it was fine for me
4907 Plank Rd, North Garden, VA 22959-0033: http://www.ngvfc.com/site/contact.php
Driving directions to 1864 Anchorage Farm, Charlottesville, VA 22903
4.1 mi – about 9 mins
4907 Plank Rd
North Garden, VA 22959
1.Head northwest on Co Rd 692/Plank Rd toward Monacan Trail Rd/US-29 N
331 ft
2.Take the 1st right onto Monacan Trail Rd/US-29 N
3.0 mi
3.Turn left at Anchorage Farm Rd
1.1 mi
1864 Anchorage Farm
Charlottesville, VA 22903
If you could see the map that I linked to earlier, I think what it showed was one of the CAR ems stations, but it was showing in a different location than listed above. Looking at all the other maps, only the GIS system shows that particular location. From the Dept. of Fire & Rescue, it is not shown: http://www.albemarle.org/department.asp?department=fire&relpage=8361
Looking at the above map, this location was showing in between the North Garden Fire Company & Anchorage Farm. Could have just been a typo in the GIS system ???
Skyler,
I just saw your post! Yes, Drs sometimes do get a bad rap. Some implicate themselves with their ego and demeanor. I believe that my brother in law truly loves his patients and even if there is no hope for future health and a cure for his patients, he goes the extra mile with the family and the patient, until far after the death of the patient. He attends many, many funerals. It sounds like you have experienced such wonderful care as my brother in law strives to provide for his patients.
Oh, I know that you shared your accident story way back, but I would love to hear it again. Can you post again, when convenient for you?
It did just occur to me now that there are alot of similarities between LE and Drs. Isn’t there? , and thank you for allowing me to share this Skyler and Blink:
LE is very similar, I believe, in what a Dr, perhaps a Cancer Physician may go through during the working of a case, as in working with a patient.
They both have to eliminate the non diseases through tests (vetting of suspects non suspects)
Identify Origin: more tests ( more collaborating witnesses, establishing a timeline)
Dealing with family in fatal illness ( dealing with family of murdered, victimized, and or missing victim)
sub catagories (LE) Physicians have to deal with family members: ANGER,denial, sorrow, PAIN, Loss, blame.
My brother in law has to deal with so much anger with patients, and their families at times ( I honestly do not know how he does it) due to the dying wife,the husband, child, mother or father. Probably daily.
ANGER is prominent emotion in most, if not all of his patients., and is Law Enforcement has to deal with emotions of the same….with families too, each and everyday. I’m sure it is stressful.
I guess the reason I bring up the analogy in relation to Morgan case is this:
LE IS doing the best that they can. They are not god, and neither is the Physician. The Physician cannot create a cure, in as much as LE can manufacture evidence in an investigation such as Morgans.
Forensic Crime Investigation is not an exact science: Neither is medicine. Sometimes things happen that defy science. Sometimes things happen that the law cannot prosecute. It doesn’t mean that they are not trying.
Blame: LE should not be blamed for Morgans dissappearance. The Physician should not be blamed for terminal cancer.
I didn’t want to post this long, so sorry, but lets give LE a chance. I know that they are working so hard. If we are not sleeping, what do you think they are doing? Let’s save the criticism of Joe Radar and respect what is is and isn’t telling us.
Let’s appreciate and never underscore what LE is doing, and has done for us all.
Morgan you ar ehome now, and we will find out exactly what happened to you. As Candice said” I hope you DNA “. Morgan we are praying you have the DNA keys, even a tiny weeny little hair would do!
Morgan’s death has hit me harder than expected. Today I have been battling a very bad migraine. I only get them in times of great stress.
I hope you’ll bear with me through any spelling /grammatical errors. Although I feel better now, it takes awhile to get back to norm.
I was thinking, yes, evern through a migraine, we have been speculating Morgan had to have known her murderer at least, trusted him/her from a previous encounter. Gil said today that Morgan was dead, hopefully before the concert ended. Why would some sicko kill Morgan right away,all sickos I have heard about take their time and enjoy the fear and the act. In a darkened field, in the rain, done quickly, I do not see the ejoyment.
What if the real intended victim/s wwas not Morgan but the Harrington’s. Bear with me I know this is a stretch.
We have speculated the murderer had to have known the area of the farm.We have speculated Morgan was drugged or was incapacitated early in the car as to not cause fight or flight.
We have speculated Someone may have known Morgan was at the concert from reading her FB page and/or the Metallica page. We have speculated it could have been a stalker.
What if the stalker was actually seeking vengeance on her parents ?
Brings me God forbid, to “M” he/she stated hatred for both the Gil and Dan said they knew them for a long while, said they worked together in pharmaceuticals. Obviously knew the area,if “M” once worked with Dan perhaps “M” once attended UVA and knew that the big house on the Bass property was a party house years ago and that that particular area/field was obscured from view.
“M” stated that they believed Morgan would have ran away to escape the Harringtons. Perhaps in “M” mind they were doing Morgan a favor however twisted, in setting her free. “M” stated thye knew Morgan as a little girl, Would Morgan remember this person as a trusted family friend, as a coworker of her father’s? Would she be thankful to run into someone who always treated her kindly as a child?
“M” tone when writing about Gil and Dan was dripping with venom, “M” wrote about Morgan as a child, and as a rightful runaway. “M”never mentioned Alex… If Morgan was seen as a means to punish her parents,with a lifetime of wondering if their daughter is out there,somewhere, what better way to prolong the suffering and back up the abduction story than by leaving the purse with contents,strewn in the last place she was seen? And perhaps this is why morgan wasn’t well hidden, if she were found it would be a whole new way of punishment.
Please give me your thoughts and please all, Dr.Harrington and family do not take offense to me posting these words again
repost of “M”
Comment by M. — January 21, 2010 @ 9:20 am
This case is very interesting for a number of reasons. I have intimate knowledge of the Harrington family. I used to work in pharmaceuticals and psychiatry in the Radford, VA area.
I do not trust Dan Harrington or his wife at all. There is something extremely fishy with that whole family. Mrs Harrington is the worst type of person imaginable. She is vindictive and bitter. I equate her entire attitude to a Jezebel type of woman — extremely manipulative. Dan has always been shady, and has had several financial dealings that really raise an eyebrow.
That said, I remember Morgan as a little girl; but in a terrible family situation. I wouldn’t be surprised if she just ran away. I really think she is alive. The friends know something, and the family knows a lot more than they are letting on. It is their Modus Operandi.
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P.s Also, we speculated maybe this field was important to the murderer and Morgan, what if it was important to another family member? A message to Alex , I find it strange “M” would not even mention his name,”M” obviously did not care about offending anyone. Perhaps I was wrong about who the target was. Could it have been Alex?
Thank you for your thoughts, Blink, everyone. RIP Morgan
Feel better.
B
One has to wonder how search helicopters over Cville in the first few days of her disappearance did not spot a black-clad body in a golden-pale hayfield.
(Oct. 20) “… Search helicopters and canines have been heavily searching the UVa area in hopes of finding some clues about what happened to her in Charlottesville. …”
(Oct. 22) “… Police say Morgan Harrington’s purse was found in a parking lot near the athletic fields, but there was no sign of a struggle in the vicinity. Police say there aren’t any plans to bring back the search helicopter unless they decide they need it. …”
(http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/64718837.html
O sista your so up in my grille.
I spent about 3 hours on this today. It is my forte’.
See new post.
B
… Or, why the responsible party did not fear an impending fly-over.
RE:Comment by notJMUfan — January 27, 2010 @ 10:24 pm
“I am making some leaps with that info. ..what are you thinking?”
My son is on our local Fire Squad (rescue here is all separate). All volunteer squad. He’s the youngest (by far), and just thinks this is the coolest thing. He “lives” at that department. He leaves work each night, goes to the dept. stays all night, gets up & goes to school, then home for a shower & hello, the off to work & repeat all over again, at least 5 nights a week. He has his own set of keys, he goes & comes as he pleases, and is almost always there alone every night. He’s not allowed to drive the trucks (insurance requires him to be 21). So when a call comes in, he cranks up the trucks, opens the doors, and when the other volunteers arrive, everything is ready for them to go. He even has a map given to them by local LE, with all the local “meth” houses, which would require special materials in case of a fire.
What I’m thinking now…If we go back to B’s original theory, BG= someone in LE/security/Rescue…I’m researching the names of the volunteers listed there, but the info is really old, and probably not going to help much atm
Good advice Lizzy, and I can’t even believe I’m laughing at this moment. They come in all shapes and sizes, ugly and good looking. Heaven help all of us.
When your daughter gets to college you’ll have to favorite the site of her new town’s SOR…I’ve just done it for my oldest daughter and sent her the link so that she can memorize the faces.
Are we back to SGM? Lots of Ms close by. Any relations?
http://www.ngvfc.com/site/members.php
Comment by lizzy — January 27, 2010 @ 9:19 pm
Well, SisterSue, if he’s trying hard to get his life back together after conviction on two counts of rape in 2006, he should have skipped the subsequent adult convictions for sexual battery and failure to register as an SO. Of anyone that has been speculated about on this site, I have the smallest pity for him. Hope his victims have been able to put THEIR lives back together
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Lizzy: Very well said BUT from my understanding if you read it correctly, this is all ONE case (says so in the upper left hand corner) Case# CR08020318-00 stemming from when he was 16 years old. There are not “several” victims. Only one, and we dont know the full story. As I said I know I would catch flack… just wanted to make the point, lets not send him to the gallows just yet. This is how hype and hysteria builds. I’m sure people are driving by his house as I type.
Case# CR08020318-00
CHARLOTTESVILLE CIRCUIT 18.2-67.4 SEXUAL BATTERY Jun 02, 2008 VA
ALBEMARLE JDR CT 18.2-61 RAPE Jul 05, 2006 VA
ALBEMARLE JDR CT 18.2-61 RAPE Jul 05, 2006 VA
okay guys, thanks for the laughter amongst the tears…
from blinks “Blink, what is that ugly azz thing you say?” to localcville’s “Their heads are not even shaped right. “… y’all have made my heart smile…. onward and upward dear friends!
Whew. Needed it for a minute, thanks
B
Observer,
I’m glad that my post on the Postal delivery was helpful to your trying to make sense of this case. As a substitute Rural Carrier (RCA) I regularly delivered to this route that included Ancorage Farm, Red Hill Rd, Blandemar Farm, and the subdivision that includes Chopin Dr. The box for the main house at Blandemar (that you can see from the arials on the other side of the pond from Ancorage farm) was located on this remote part of Red Hill Rd far very from the house, but the Polish Countess who used to own it at the time always had the mail picked up from the box, most likely by the help, and most likely never using the road that I went down to try to deliver the Express mail, but using the roads from the newly created subdivisions of the once large property that include Chopin Dr. It was only by a fluke that I tried to take the driveway by the mailbox to the house that I had my adventure. I thought about what you mentioned about Morgan being left for dead in the wooded area and awakening to get herself into the field and it makes sense. It also makes sense that the field was accessed from the Blandemar Farm subdivision side. From what I remember the new highly insulated McMansions are very isolated from each other and the residents are more indoorsy that outdoorsy when they are home, and thus pay little attention to things going on at what they might consider a distance.
Blink, thanks for doing what you do. I keep coming here hoping to hear the good news.
@ Comment by J2K — January 27, 2010 @ 10:14 pm ->
“While I think there may be a low-double-digit chance that an evil-yet-stupid perp would have felt a flickering fluorescent bulb buzz above his head post-crime and become inspired to swing back by the spot he picked her up, I also contend that, crikey – this dude might have been recognized by his beeps-when-be-backs-up helmet, if that seemed like a brilliant idea. Anyone with access to a television knows what DNA is/or at least its implications, and he may have done this sort of thing before. Why would he purposely lose control of The Evidence when he could have simply made her … disappear?”
J2K – simply put – then HE is “Touch DNA’d” and caught – simple as that. I can hope! Anyone who touched Morgan’s belongings will be caught using the same technique used to Clear Patsy and John Ramsey. He may not be in the database today – but he can never commit another crime again – OR ->
Maybe this perp is a tab bit more dense and not up on new techniques than I had hoped. This would be a win – win!
hope you are well, warm and safe!
@justice: i’m on your page. Rescue: “you have a cut, let me help you”. . . .Fire: well, you can guess my connection there. . . .interesting.
I don’t know if it’s been mentioned already but the RSO’s address is less than 2 miles from the farm.
So he would know the area if nothing else (if he actually lives there).
Is it possible that the necklace was not found on her because it was the murder weapon? Not sure the strength of that kind of necklace but I have heard of people being asphyxiated by lesser objects.
Maybe he cut his hand on it and didn’t want to leave that evidence at the crime scene.
Also, J2K, re: the helicopters. Perhaps before the snow and rain storms he had made a half-azzed attempt at concealing her w/ leaves and branches, etc. that were then blown off in the elements?
Re:Comment by Christy S. — January 27, 2010 @ 11:21 pm
Are we back to SGM? Lots of Ms close by. Any relations?
http://www.ngvfc.com/site/members.php
I saw that also and was thinking the same thing.
Dear Clementine you are so very welcome. Thankyou for the video of Tom Petty “American Girl.”
My daughter and I really enjoyed it . My life and my career has always been about rock and roll. When I first came to the States I was talking management with Toms’ then manager and was in his office on Sunset Strip for a meeting when this door opened and out shuffled Tom with his head slightly down and that crooked smile of his …he extended his hand and said hello …I was pretty jazzed about that day and remember it like it was yesterday. I thought wow I must really have “made it!” Ha!!
That was a while ago probably around 1983. I prefer his early records as well. “Here Comes My Girl” “Refugee” and yes “American Girl”
I loved what you wrote. Morgan was really into music into “life” she seemed to have such a free spirit, and I too was horrified that her bright light was extinguished and she was snatched from a large music venue where “Metallica ” was playing.
God Bless Dan, Gil and Alex and yes may the incandescent Morgan forever “Rock on”
Mandy – re: “Also, J2K, re: the helicopters. Perhaps before the snow and rain storms he had made a half-azzed attempt at concealing her w/ leaves and branches, etc. that were then blown off in the elements?”
Certainly possible, but from a crow’s view (i.e. helicopter), that mish-mash of tall, dry grass would be noticeably off — even if a body could not be seen from above. That said, keep the “what if” theories coming, as there are so many entry points to what could have happened, at this point.