Morgan Harrington Murder: Why Anchorage Farm?
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Charlottesville, VA– Morgan Harrington, 20 year old Virginia Tech Student found murdered on Anchorage Farm January 26 2010, was put there for a reason.
Image of Original Work By Nancy Bass
It was clear from Lt. Joe Rader’s press conference on February 4 that the location of Morgan’s remains is critical to the investigation, and to the identity of the individuals responsible.
Why Anchorage Farm?
David and Nancy Bass, owners of Anchorage Farm and the residential dwellings therein, own a boatload of land.
B O A T L O A D.
Mr. Bass, is also a longstanding member of the Albemarle County Zoning Appeals Board. In fact, he is the Chairman of the ACZAB since 2007, where he preceded this position at the Vice Chair since 2000.
Between 2005 and 2008, let’s agree there is a “run” on raw land in Albemarle County VA, in particular.
Like many families owning large tracts of land, there is always the dilemma of staying ahead of the zoning curve or preserving their land while paying taxes only on the residence.
Anchorage Farm, like almost 90% of surrounding vacant land, was registered in the Agricultural and Forrestal preservation program.
Location, Location, Location
The forced sale of Biscuit Run due to David Breeden’s original will was a disaster to its purchasers including Hometown crooner Dave Matthews.
A $46 Million dollar purchase from the Breeden family was recently bailed out by VDOT for under $10 Million.
There are lukewarm results to Blandemar Farms in its infancy.
The fresh sale of the first-of-its-kind development marrying land preservation and *ethereal* elite* estates* known as Bundoran Farms, Bass withdraws his 654 acre contribution to the Hardware District renewal.
Mr. and Mrs. Bass re-parceled and re-deeded their land in 2007. I have studied this tract closely; there is no doubt in my mind this land was being prepped for development with exactly the right easements for “right of way” purposes in place.
Nearly every other landowner was now in the 10 year plan with the possibility of not just one, but two significant luxury development projects on the horizon while their land is restricted from development of a “more intense use.”
Translation:
Holy Sh*t, my land could be “not subject to further subdivision” and worth half of what it is now in 10 years. Gulp.
Morgan’s remains were found in parcel 41a.
Which would coincide with the 4 and 1 parts of her families creed o; I choose to take comfort in that.
Keeping up with the Jonesbrights
As an example, let’s use the adjacent property tracts across Red Hill.
The Howell, Waybright, Napier and Hager Families own the largest preserved adjacent trac on Monacan, which from a plot perspective, you might argue is land-locked due to Mr. Bass ‘s re-zoning.
Now, before I get 300 posts asking if I am suggesting Morgan Harrington was murdered out of revenge of a land dispute; of course not.
I am simply saying it is possible that part of the motive of the persons responsible for Morgan’s death to place her on exactly the parcel she was, may have been a combination of comfort AND perceived payback.
I have personally worked with developers on a similar project and I have seen a man have his land value cut in half by not completing the planning process prior to new zoning amendments AFTER granting easements through it. Utter Nightmare.
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ooops, please disregard the last paragraph in my most recent post ~ it should have been deleted by myself prior to posting the comment.
Well, if this “land deal” theory is correct, it sure does substantiate why the LE doesn’t and hasn’t cracked down on all the leads,the various peeps that saw morgan that night, and all the other bits of info that they have had all along and NOT acted upon. The land guys are notorious for paying off the local police . That’s been going on for all of life. But, there is a serial killer in this part of the country that is terribly crazy at this time in his/her life. I think the killer knew his way around the property because he went to
parties on that farm…. Gosh , i hope and pray this guy(s) get caught before they do it again. Good research work, guys.
Obstructing justice fine $ 2,500.00
defense lawyer retainer fee $5000.00
saving your soul by doing the right thing…….PRICELESS
Also, with respect to my comment above, Wayne Townsend said he saw Morgan in the area where alcohol was served and stated the area was extremely crowded with everyone “pushing” to get in. Video from that area, or pictures, could be extremely valuable.
It’s too bad Nancy Grace isn’t reporting on this case on an ongoing basis if for no other reason than to get the word out to people who attended the concert to check their photographs and videos from the concert. I think getting that message out as many times as possible could turn up something.
Nancy Grace gets people talking and makes things happen. Her show has a huge audience and she could reach so many people in all areas of the United States, and beyond the US borders, who may have attended the concert and taken pictures and videos.
I believe it was the Nancy Grace show that made me aware of this case. Had the case not been mentioned on her show or on JVM, I never would have known about it. From there I did a google search about the case and found BOC.
ooops again, FWIW, it was a search on “Ask.com”, not “Google”.
Ross, not taking sides in the issue, I just wonder why they won’t let the dashcam video out? I’m a 100% supporter of LE as a rule, but I can also recognize that sometimes things go wrong.
Sorry for the O.T. Blink. But I guess not totally O.T., I have been trusting that LE had information and good reasons they are keeping everything so quiet in MH’s case, so I’m just wondering, is that how they handle all of their cases there?
total amateur,
re; “Morgan picked up on Copeley Bridge- LE has her last cell ping around mile marker 114 on rt 64 heading west (suggesting this due to the search of 64, mile markers 112-114). According to mapquest, marker 114 is the first turn off, Dick Woods Rd, to the direction of Sutherland (house fire), and to Anchorage Farm”.
I wonder where the cell phone towers are in relation to rt 64 and Monacan Trail Rd. For instance, if cell phone is in car on Monacan Trail Rd., would the closest cell tower be in the area of Rt 64?
The reason I say this is because, one thing common to Achorange Farm (A), one of our POI’s homes (B)(don’t know if he currently lives there however it is my understanding he grew up there and member(s) of his family still live there) and the house fire in the 3300 block of Sutherland Rd (D), is that they are all located directly off of Monacan Trail Rd which runs parallel to rt 64.
Distance/time between A. (AF) & B. (POI home) is .83 miles/2 minutes
Distance/time between B. (POI home) & C. (house fire location) is 4.2 miles/9 minutes
BTW, does anyone know if “M Duane H” is related to “EMH”. This is the 3rd time I’ve asked so if no answer again I guess I’ll assume nobody knows.
He is not
B
Its 3:00 in the morning and I feel the need to write. One of two things will happen when I’m done. I’ll highlight what I’ve written in blue and hit backspace, or I’ll hit submit comment. At this point I’m not sure.
I can’t sleep. Like many of you, I’ve spent hours reading this blog. Researching facts, reading rumors, hypothesizing, and posting. In all honesty, it started out with an interest in learning about the case- learning about investigation. But somewhere in between it became more. I asked myself “Why?”. Why have I become so interested in this case? Some people probably would call it pathetic, or tell me to “get a life”. But the answer is really quite simple. It’s because the Harringtons did everything RIGHT. They have good jobs. They give back to humanity. They raised two good kids. Two kids, one graduate and one who wanted to be a teacher. But one of them isn’t here anymore. She won’t graduate college. She won’t take her first teaching job. She won’t get married and have children of her own to teach the ways of life. And that’s wrong. It’s just wrong.
Morgan could have been any one of our’s sister, friend, or neighbor. She was the girl who grew up next door, or the girl you went to school with. I went to FindMorgan.com earlier and read Gil’s blog. The most recent entry spoke of facing the reality of death. How she can’t live her life without the people she knows best not being able to look her in the eye. A couple days earlier she was writing about how going through Morgan’s things cut the air short in her lungs. This is a woman in extreme pain. I stared at the white comment box for an hour wondering what to write. What do you say to a parent who’s child has been murdered? I never wrote anything.
There are things in this world that can’t be explained. There is evil that has no reason- but there is good that will not sleep until that evil is met.
This case can be solved. I believe it will be. Morgan deserves it, and the Harringtons need it. There is a selfish, ignorant, remorseless evil wandering the streets, and it needs to be vanquished from society. Let it be done so that a girl out there who we will never hear of graduates college and raises a family.
I’m going to hit submit comment.
Blink, fyi I’ll be out of town for a couple weeks or so. Prayers for an arrest continue. Thank you for all that you and the folks here do. ~clink~
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/local/article/vmi_cadet_enters_plea_deal_in_rape_case/54251/
this standup guy doesn’t happen to be a metallics
fan, does he?
Total Amateur, thanks for your early morning post…that’s probably exactly why I’ve been so drawn to Morgan’s case from the beginning but you explain it so well, and so much more eloquently than I ever could. Even at 3:00am. I’ve been reading here at BOC almost from the beginning…most of us are still here, and we’ve been throwing ideas around for months. I’ve found it easier now to just step back and listen to what others have to say. So thanks Total, and thanks to all the other new folks and old posters. It’s nice to know that there are so many caring people out there.
totalamature…I am glad you hit the submit button. I feel the same way. Sometimes I can’t sleep thinking about Morgan. I wake up thinking about her and spend the day with her on my mind. Mrs. Harrington, you’re not alone, we are sleepless over Morgan right along with you, we are crying for her with you. Once Justice for Morgan is served, maybe we can all get some sleep. Blink, you too.
TO: J2K, 3/7, 9:09pm, you stated:
“So about that Sutherland house-fire…
If the blaze had occurred the afternoon or evening of Jan. 26 – rather than well before dawn (2 a.m.) – it would certainly warrant attention. But it did not; it happened while Mr. Bass was deep asleep next to his wife on his Craftmatic Adjustable Bed, nearly a mile away from where Morgan’s remains lay, waiting to be discovered. There’s been some speculation that he was “tipped off to the body” hours later, presumably as he set to work feeding cows and rumbling around his 700-acre farm’s perimeter in search of damage to fences following some record snowfall.
I do not think that was the case; I think he found her the very first time he ventured out to that dormant, secluded back pasture since the tall grass of late fall had been matted against the earth by a deep layer of snow (that took its time melting into the earth). I submit that no one knew Bass would discover her that day; and that the rest of the world (including the BG(s) was/were clued in soon after he made his way back to the main house and called the police.
Back to the fire – I just don’t see how it could be related. If there was some sort of incriminating evidence at these particular students’ rented house that would tie the BG(s) to MH, it would have been set ablaze soon after she disappeared in October and the whole region was looking for her.
The page did not turn in this case until hours after the fire was out on Jan. 26.
Also, unless something not reported or acknowledged by Albemarle County officials has occurred in regard to the Sutherland inferno, this is the current release regarding its cause on the county’s Web site:
(emphasis mine)
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Release
Cause of Fire Believed to be Acccidental
1/27/2010
On Tuesday, January 26, 2010 firefighters were dispatched just before 2 AM for a report of fire *in a room* in the 3300 block of Sutherland Road, off Monacan Trail in Albemarle County. Units from North Garden, Charlottesville, Crozet, Charlottesville-Albemarle Rescue Squad and Albemarle County responded with approximately twenty fire fighters.
Four people were home at the time of the fire and everyone was able to escape; a family pet, however, was found in the debris after the fire was extinguished. The fire took about four hours to extinguish. There were no other injuries reported. Fire Investigators are still working to determine an exact cause for the fire, which destroyed the house, but *believe the fire started in one of the bedrooms due to an accidental cause.* The four residents of the house were displaced by the fire and have found alternative housing.
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Get your Goblets: I challenge someone to make the connection for me.”
J2K, my goblet is here in hand and at the ready–but not to make the connection for you. Rather, it’s to raise my goblet to you.
My firm belief is that you are, as usual, spot-on in your observations above. Although I appreciate that perhaps only a few others here share this conclusion, I concur completely with you that the fire is unrelated to Morgan’s murder.
37.J2K says:
March 7, 2010 at 9:09 pm
So about that Sutherland house-fire…
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J2K, you make a great case for setting aside the fire.
But: Would your feeling about it change if you learned that one of the girls had already packed her things and gone back to the house on the 25th just to pick up her already-packed boxes? (It does not appear to me that all four “tenants” [3 F, 1 M] were currently staying in the house.)
And the dog was not a “family dog,” but one they were pet sitting while its male owner was out of the country?
B, you have info that EMH re-registered on 1/25, correct?
It sure *could* have been an accidental cause. However, I do not believe details of the news stories, which gives the whole thing a certain stink for me. Plus, the news stories and FD have yet to issue a definite cause—-or, apparently—-close the case. I would love to be wrong.
One of the things that has bothered me.
“Morgan was crying inside the arena”. If she was drinking and she fell, would she cry? Even if it hurt I don’t think she would cry.
I would only cry if someone hurt my feelings. O Morgan, who did this to you?
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/local/article/vmi_cadet_enters_plea_deal_in_rape_case/54251/
The judge sentenced Lloyd to spend one year in jail, and a fine of $2,500. However, the judge suspended the sentenced for three years. If Lloyd stays out of trouble during those three years, he will not have to serve the time.
Okay, here’s what we the people have to change.
The judge says, the next time you rape a girl, we’re going to go through with punishment. Wonder who the next one is going to be? your daughter? my daughter? your sister?..THEN Lloyd will be punished..but not until the next time…Geesh! What’s with these judges?
somebody commented about it being unlikely morgan ran in the same circle as emh (sorry if this was not the exact gist, but i can’t find the post now).
wanted to make the point again about the morphing mercury ball that is the music scene in general. that is the link. concert attendees are a microcosm of society
But if two or more collaborate to obstruct justice, then it becomes a conspiracy, and the penalties become more potent and the retainer gets higher.
I think just going to parties in the hostoric house at AF wouldn’t give you the needed familiarity with those far away back fields, would it? I think you need to have hung out back there.
I’m suspecting that groups of 3 or more young guys on mountain bikes cut through private property often while training in the Sutherland Rd//North Garden/Red Hill Rd/Plank Rd/Anchorage Farm area, leading to familiarity with the back sections of local land. This could include someone keekee and acho have been researching, possibly the two RSOs.
I’m also wondering about vehicular fatalities in the area:
quote from viet says:
“February 1, 2010 at 4:26 am
Some odd thoughts: 2) several vehicular deaths (3 w/in a week after Oct. 17) a few miles south of Rt. 29 & Red Hill Rd.(Anchorage Farm area) at the intersection of Plank Rd./Rt. 29-S that traffic officers found strange and alarming”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/01/27/morgan-harrington-murder-helpful-hunters-may-hunt-her-killer/
Does anyone know who else was involved/killed in one of the car accidents in that area during the week after October 17?
“Kathryn Russell, owner of Nelson County’s Majesty Farm…was killed in a traffic accident as she tried to cross Route 29 South at Plank Road on October 22. She was 54.
According to news reports, Russell was crossing 29 in a 1989 Dodge pickup with a crate of chickens in the back when she was hit by a van with two passengers inside. Police says neither alcohol nor speed was involved, and the two passengers were taken to the hospital with “non-life-threatening” injuries. Russell, however, who was not wearing a seatbelt, was thrown from her truck by the impact and killed instantly.”
http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2009/10/27/local-good-bye-farmer-activist-kathryn-russell/
Good Morning Blink,
Please keep an eye out for my next post which will be marked private.
Thanks :- )
OT…Amber Dubois remains found. Indications are that it is connected to the Cheslea King case. Another RSO and two more young women dead.
We, as a people, need to do something to change these laws regarding RSO’s. It is an urgent issue.
Anyone have an ideas how we can start the ball rolling to start protecting our women and children from these RSO’s who are allowed to walk the street and assult again?
My heart goes out to her family, heartbreaking.
B
Totalamateur, And I agree that that name isn’t befitting for you. You bring out some very good observations. I can answer your question to a degree about the word around town. There isn’t any. At least around UVA campus. My son is home for a few days for spring break. Last night, he said ‘I don’t think they’re going to find Morgan’s killer.’ He said nobody is saying anything and everybody’s wondering. His words ‘it’s kind of creepy going out after dark and wondering if there’s somebody there watching and waiting for the next girl to be out walking by herself.’ I tried to assure him that LE is working hard and that they know a lot more than what we know.
rnmom says:
March 7, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Excellent and informative post. Thank you.
suz says:
March 8, 2010 at 9:39 am
I think just going to parties in the hostoric house at AF wouldn’t give you the needed familiarity with those far away back fields, would it? I think you need to have hung out back there.
I agee suz, 100%. And I feel 99%, unknown to Mr. Bass.
Thank you acho – very helpful
acho says:
March 8, 2010 at 8:52 am
“But: Would your feeling about it change if you learned that one of the girls had already packed her things and gone back to the house on the 25th just to pick up her already-packed boxes? (It does not appear to me that all four “tenants” [3 F, 1 M] were currently staying in the house.)
And the dog was not a “family dog,” but one they were pet sitting while its male owner was out of the country?”
I totally agree. Look at proximity of locations on a map and check the family connections through the land records on Albemarle Gis-Web.
just dropping by to say hello and let’s all remind our daughters to be AWARE. Do not walk and text. Do trust your gut. Do walk with friends. Do carry pepper spray. Do FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE if it ever comes to that.
Thinking of Morgan, Chelsea, and Amber and many many more this morning.
I do not see how the house fire can be connected – how would they know that Mr. Bass would go out to check the field after the storms? I believe that this individual did not expect the body to be found until, at the earlist, Spring, if at all (if her body was moved by the water from a more hidden area as we believe, I don’t believe he thought it would be found at all).
Total amateur, your post so early this morning at 4:58 put into words my feelings as well….well said my friend…it took my breath away. My daughter is home now from UVA on spring break and a big part of me will become paranoid (again) when she goes back to school…please, please let an arrest be close!
Morgan, continue to shine down on us and help show us the way. To the Harrington family…God bless you…so many here are with you and doing all we can to bring her killer(s)to justice; I so wish that the burden so many of us feel here at BOC to bring this to resolution could somehow lighten your load.
J2K says:
March 7, 2010 at 9:09 pm
So about that Sutherland house-fire…
. . . .
Get your Goblets: I challenge someone to make the connection for me.
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If the fire is related, and I do not believe it is, it is much more likely to be related to whatever attention had just been paid to EH that caused him to reregistered on 1/25, the day BEFORE the fire, than the actions of Mr. Bass the morning after.
I just can’t stand the idea of this excuse for a human being walking the street free for one more day. Every single day he walks the streets is another dangerous day for women, another day where there is a real threat to someone’s life just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time and coming across the wrong individual.
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Judi says:
March 8, 2010 at 10:45 am
Anyone have an ideas how we can start the ball rolling to start protecting our women and children from these RSO’s who are allowed to walk the street and assault again?
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Stop filling the prisons with low level drug dealers/users and stupid 3 strikes and you are out miscreants and lock the serious pedophiles/violent sex offenders up either forever or until they are too old to be a danger. The problem is that politicians will never adjust the drug laws for fear of being called soft on crime — something that ironically means that there is less ability to lock up the really dangerous folks. The good news is that, despite the media and itnernet making it seem like you can’t go outside on your own without being attacked, it really is safer or at least as safe out there today than it was in the past.
acho and marshmallow -
on the hunt back with my first standout sweet faced hippie boy number one raw dawg fan. seems his connection to house fire girls may be even closer than the genealogy connections i’ve found with drummer boy.
got familial stuff here too along with crossing paths with morgan and having access to all kinds of property/land
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rnmom says:
March 7, 2010 at 10:44 pm
I know the Pantera t-shirt has been discussed but, I decided to revisit the article today. Which of course just left me with more questions. If in fact that was Morgan’s shirt, wouldn’t that constitute a search of the premises? Would they ask residence of the surrounding premises for alibis? One of the gentlemen interviewed, the member of Bella Morte (beautiful death), was at the Metallica concert. Does being at a concert really count as an alibi? Did they have him on security cam? Was Morgan the only one not captured on security cams tha night? If someone used the concert as an alibi wouldn’t they have captured them leaving or returning? Wouldn’t they have scratches on them? Would someone know where to enter/exit without being seen? Who would be privy to the whereabouts of such cams if they exist? Security, staff, police? I don’t know I didn’t build JPJ arena! I do find it disturbing that Mrs. Parson’s sighting was discounted. The fact that the shirt was found near where she says she saw Morgan is even more disturbing. Maybe the shirt is not Morgan’s. If it isn’t, maybe someone put it there as a cruel prank, or someone wanted LE to look there but was afraid to speak up. It could even be possible someone put it there to through off the investigation. No matter the reason, I feel it deserves some very careful attention, and I pray that it got it.
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Just as a quick point — the area where that shirt was found really isn’t anywhere near the west lawn area. LE will have quickly known if it was morgan’s shirt or not. Morgan’s parents could identify it visually and, if it was the right design, then they could test it.
J2K It is possible that the ones who put the body there in the first place , and knew there was to be a search of the area very soon, decided to get rid of the house evidence, and possibly burn the girls who were in the house if they could manage it.
If this person/persons included Mr. B, then he would know he would “find” the body the next morning and people would not make the connection due to the fire happening prior to the finding of the body.
I read somewhere the dog belonged to a guy who went to Peru, and it was being babysat by one of the girl students. I do not know who the guy who went to Peru is.
IF the persons who put Morgan on the farm were indeed the CIA then they would know how to hide evidence, cover evidence, make things look like accidents etc. They would send thier man to Peru and
perhaps something could unfortunately “happen” to him as well.
J2K….you did ask.
Dara says:
March 6, 2010 at 4:31 pm
“Hi all!
As a 20 year old from Virginia this case has hit me hard and I have been following this case from the beginning.
I would like to say, Blink, you have truly become an inspiration and I aspire to be like you one day. What you and your Blink Family does is amazing. I have come to feel like I know you all and believe you care about this beautiful woman.
Morgan has become an even bigger inspiration. I did not know her, but like you all i have grown to love this girl and feel like I’ve known her. We are all children of God and I believe this connection brings us closer and makes us feel this strong love for our angel. I am still in awe over the strength and support of her family. I think about her everyday and because of her i have made important changes in my life. I have currently changed my major to criminal justice, i feel like i have finally found my niche and passion in life. Also, she has given me to the strength to find God and my own strength in finding my sobriety. I have recently started rehab in order to fight my addiction. I wish i could have met Morgan and told her how much she has influenced me. She is our angel and i pray daily that her BG/s are brought to justice.
I would like to thank Blink and the Blink family for keeping the light of our angel, Morgan Harrington, alive.
God bless you all <3″
Dara….you will never know how much this post means to Morgan’s family. Morgan lives on through women like you….I can’t contact you personally but I know my prayers will. May God protect you and sustain you in these goals…JBW
So sorry about the news of Amber Dubois. Sadly, it’s what we were expecting, wasn’t it? Prayers for her family.
On another note, by the way, I told my son to keep thinking about that BG that may be out there watching and to be sure to remind his friends(girls especially) to think about it, too. How sad. Until Morgan’s murderer is caught and arrested, there is a killer on the loose in the Charlottesville area. Everyone, please be extremely cautious. Don’t let your guard down and try not to be out alone, especially at night. Always, let someone know where you’re going and call(don’t text, they need to hear your voice) them when you get there. Friends, look out for your friends. Make sure they get where they tell you they’re going. If you don’t here from them in a very reasonable amount of time, call security or even 911. It doesn’t matter if it seems extreme if you save their life.
Judi, thank you for your very good posts. Friends, take them to heart.
Above post: *here* should be *hear*, as in ‘hear from them’. Not enough coffee yet.
Judi says: I do not see how the house fire can be connected – how would they know that Mr. Bass would go out to check the field after the storms?
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They wouldn’t have known Bass would be checking his field that day, but I think there was a scheduled search of that area that was postponed due to the weather. They may have known about that and decided to burn any evidence at their house prior to the search being rescheduled.
But that said, I think the house fire is probably unrelated and just a coincidence.
Observer – re: Sutherland house-fire
Thank you for your acknowledgement. I completely understand that, in many here thinking deeply and critically about the case (with little to go on), coincidences stand out and deserve scrutiny. In this instance, two remarkable (and terrible) events occurred within 12 hours of one another and approx 5 miles apart: a destructive house-fire in the middle of the night, and the dicovery of MH’s body on AF the next day.
That said, and per my previous post on this, there is nothing connecting the two except timing and location (… the timing, however, does *not* sync up enough with her discovery to even make it a coincidence in my mind; and the location is 3 miles down M-Trail Road and nearly 2 miles down Sutherland – not exactly next-door). Add to that the fact that the county had deemed the fire “accidental” within 24 hours of the blaze being put out (the *exact* cause may be difficult to determine as 3/4 of the home was completely destroyed; thus, it is still open), and what I see is a linkless chain that may be serving as yet another distracting red herring in this case.
My concern with that is the research and focus it is drawing diverts attention from activity that *was* related to the placement of her body and/or that occurred *after* it was announced her remains had been found.
acho – re: same
(you asked me: ) “But: Would your feeling about (the fire) change if you learned that one of the girls had already packed her things and gone back to the house on the 25th just to pick up her already-packed boxes? (It does not appear to me that all four “tenants” [3 F, 1 M] were currently staying in the house.)”
No, acho, it would not change my view that this house (or what’s left of it) is/was wholly unrelated to MH’s murder investigation. For one, Jan. 23-24 was the last weekend of the month – if someone was moving out and had paid rent through January, it stands to reason she would move most her things out by Sunday, Jan. 24, and into her next place, perhaps returning Monday, Jan. 25, to pick up any remaining boxes and leave her key or whatever. The fire started (in a bedroom, I think) much later, at 2 a.m. that Tuesday morning.
(acho, you also noted:) “B, you have info that EMH re-registered on 1/25, correct? It sure *could* have been an accidental cause. However, I do not believe details of the news stories, which gives the whole thing a certain stink for me. Plus, the news stories and FD have yet to issue a definite cause—-or, apparently—-close the case. I would love to be wrong.”
Well, then I have some good news for you: The *nature* of the fire’s cause – as is stated on the Albemarle County Web site (released on Jan. 27) – has been determined to be “accidental.” (Note: I’m not referring to a news outlet’s take – this is the official word from above.) The actual cause (e.g., faulty wiring/a curling-iron left on) may take much longer to pinpoint, as everything was charred, melted or collapsed largely beyond recognition.
J2k, excellent points all around, but I respectfully disagree with your take that this fire has been *determined * as anything, from that very article:
“.. Fire Investigators are still working to determine an exact cause for the fire, which destroyed the house, but believe the fire started in one of the bedrooms due to an accidental cause…”
This is listed as an open item on AC report as a compliance in reporting matter, whether or not it is related to Morgan’s case, it has not been classified as to cause.
B
suz – re: AF house concerts
(You pointed out:) “I think just going to parties in the hostoric house at AF wouldn’t give you the needed familiarity with those far away back fields, would it? I think you need to have hung out back there.”
I definitely agree with you on this – the far end of the back pasture she was found in is nearly a mile from the houses – and over partly wooded, rough, rolling terrain (thus, as many have determined, the RH Road access point makes more sense than via AF Road near the houses).
I’m sure the Bass homeowners/renters – or whomever hosts the concerts – would have frowned upon or advised guests against traversing the larger farm fields of the property during, before or after a performance on the site – and, per Bass, it would have taken about 30 minutes (and a flashlight, at least) to get from the homestead to that back pasture.
More likely is that the noted 30-minute trek from the house and the terrain-obscured view of that back area abutting Blandemar Farm allowed those who trespassed on that portion of the land – unbeknownst to the Bass family/tenants – feel comfortable in doing so, with no fear of being seen.
I think a few things need to be clarified:
1) LE did NOT state that there was no video footage of Morgan at JPJ. They DID state that there was no USEFUL video footage relevant to the case. Quite a big difference I think.
2) The FBI joined the investigation back in October, not AFTER her body was found.
3) Who believes that her body floated to AF? There is no way that this happened.
regarding the reward money,someone on findmorgan commented that it was for a live morgan,if this is true,shouldn’t or couldnt ,an announcement be made that NOW the reward is ‘for information leading to an arrest”.
43.cvillenative says:
March 7, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Harrington’s have their daughter in a cigar box, while the person who did this’ parents can still hug and touch him.
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Sadly, the BGs’ parents may not take advantage of their blessings…
Thinking of the dna, I wonder what kind of samples they’ve got? Foreign skin cells from under her fingernails would be awesome. Hairs on her clothes could conceivably be from a whole bunch of people unrelated to the crime, since she was probably in a crowd at the concert (I dunno—do people shed on you in close quarters, or say could a hair transfer from my sweater to yours via static when we brushed by each other?)
Some will probably be from her friends. Prolly dog hairs from the Harrington’s dog.
Here’s the gruesome part, so look away:
We’re not sure how decomposed the remains were, is that right? I guess some parts were moreso than others, as Bass (and Gil) saw a skull. But the reports suggested she wasn’t totally skeletonized, so if there had been dna from a sexual assault, would there still be traces? I guess I’m not at all sure how a body decomposes.
BUT of course the tricky thing — after you eliminate the knowns (herself, her family, and the friends who were with her, contamination from lab personnel, as we saw in Caylee’s case)—will be to find a match to any foreign DNA. If it’s someone who’s not in the system, then what? It will be hard to get samples from any POIs unless they cooperate, or unless LE musters up sufficient probable cause to get a court order to get some off of them. And then again, it could be innocent DNA from her time at the concert, or it could belong to the killer.
DNA will be helpful, but not necessarily the magic bullet (unless we’re really lucky!). Here’s hoping that we’re really lucky.
Blink, did you see this?
Not sure if you can, or want this posted, but I found it interesting.
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Moondust 3-2-10
8:43pm
I have some news…..I met one of the earlier mentioned possible suspects and am now sure he has been cleared and has nothing to do with Morgan’s dissapearance and murder. He told me himself that he went through four polygraphs last Monday and passed them all so they let him go. I’m referring to “B”S…the one who recently got out of jail for murder.
Don’t ask me details on how I met this person…I will say that I was put in an awkward posistion and am not all that happy with the one who put me there right now but I wanted answers…
I will say this….he seemed like a rather nice person once I got through those tattoos on his forehead.
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Moondust 3-2-10
9:46pm
It was very strange, Calypso but I’m glad I got that opportunity now. I was very surprised with this guys demeanor. He was definately not what I expected…he semed like just a simple ol’ country boy. He discussed the murder he was incarcerated for as well. He said he really didn’t have a choice, it was either him or the other guy. The murder took place at Garrett Square…guessing you are familar with that area.
His own sister was the one who got him hung up in this case.
He did say that we may be right about the other one who’s been mentioned here.
I’m just relieved to know that LE are definately doing their job.
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Moondust 3-2-10
8:43pm
Good morning Watchar…GH is the one and he also stated that GH has definately hunted and worked on that farm with his uncle. I can’t verify this though and I’m in no way looking to meet anyone else who may be involved.
I still can’t get over this meeting…the one who brought him to me was so proud of himself…like a cat bringing me a mouse…
Hello, Blink and others,
Wanted all to know you are prayed for daily…Blink..stay strong and take care of yourself amidst all you do for others…also, wanted to say that as a citizen of a small town, I was caught totally unaware by the reality of crimes of opportunity until a horrible incident that happened to me a couple of years ago. I was taking staying with my terminally ill mother in law at a hospital in Memphis. After staying all night several nights, I decided to go to her house and sleep one night…while unlocking her door in a good neighborhood I was suddenly pushed into the door with a gun in my side and a guy literally ripped my jewelry off my neck, fingers and arm….very sentimental things…not replaceable…he grabbed my overnight bag, purse and keys and I thought it was over…then he started saying things that were totally disgusting to this retired educator….asking me “how old are you…open that door…we are going in….how old are you…open that door…etc..” From the back..he saw the blonde hair in a pony tail…boots…thought he had a younger chick…yuk…anyway..a man drove by and stopped and was looking and rolled his window down…the perp…looked as I looked…I ran for the truck in the street….thinking any minute I would know what it felt like to be shot…it threw the perp off..he actually ran for his car..but stopped and looked to see if I was going to get in the truck…I was afraid…did not know this man either…but jumped in and he took off to his house where his wife waa so kind….police came, detective report…my bank card was used for about eight hundred dollars at gas stations that night…there had to be people aiding this guy….but alas, so much crime in these big cities, I do not think they even looked or tried to find him. TV stations broadcasted it…my jewelry was very distinctive…but police said he had most likely traded it for drugs or given it to his woman within hours…police said…maam…you are lucky to be alive…forget the jewelry….so sad…this was a kid…wild eyed…really do not think he would have thought twice about hurting me if I had gone in the house…..Thirty years ago I took a basic self defense course for women at the local chamber of commerce….they told us….do not get in a car or get in a position where you are alone with a perp….even if a gun is pointed at you..scream..run…you have a better chance of staying alive even if you are shot than if you go with them….I have never forgotten that…Please parents and grandparents remind your children of the possibilities of these things happening…I never thought it would happen to me either.
chad ,thank you for the update on joe, i am so happy he seems to be pulling through ,and so fast,with no apparent damage,that’s what i was hoping for,will you remember to keep updating on his progress,it seems miracleous ,thanks.
#GnM says:
March 8, 2010 at 11:07 am
just dropping by to say hello and let’s all remind our daughters to be AWARE. Do not walk and text. Do trust your gut. Do walk with friends. Do carry pepper spray. Do FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE if it ever comes to that.
Thinking of Morgan, Chelsea, and Amber and many many more this morning.
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I just wanted to emphasize this point- whether it your daughters, friends, sisters, whoever, they need a reminder.
I was talking to my fiance’s 19 year old sister the other day because she was boasting that she could get her nails done for a discount at a salon because the owner finds her attractive so she flirts with him to get a deal. Her dad heard and told her “yeah, well, be careful, people are stealing girls these days” and she responded “dad c’mon i’m 19, he’s like 30, he couldn’t do anything to me, i’m not a little girl”. My jaw dropped and i told her to look up Morgan Harrington, Chelsea King, and Amber Dubois just to name a few.
I have been blessed to grow up in a home where the Gift of Fear is preached, it amazes me that some have not. As women, we need to spread the word and form a defensive front against this “War on Women & Children” if anything is going to be changed.
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Amanda850 says:
February 12, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Searcher – I think there may be a FB connection with [cheese] and a “shifflet” also, for what it’s worth. I don’t know if it means anything though.
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Yes. There is absolutely a connection between cheesesuit and a certain Shifflett, alright…the Shiflett right down the street from him, that is. Same social network, via cheese’s sibling. All verified through Myspace (via the accounts/pics that aren’t set to private).
In addition, they are all in the same social circle as Coby Wade Eppard, the young man from Stanardsville who was gunned down in January by the police, one of the many headaches plaguing the Albermarle Police Department as of recent:
http://www2.greene-news.com/gcn/news/local/article/colby_eppards_family_recalls_better_times/50713/
This North Garden clique all have one thing in common: Albermarle High School, wearing camo caps, hunting, dirt-biking, trucks (GIT-R-DONE!), offroading, and hunting. Did I mention hunting?
This social group is a world away from Morgan’s more hippy “worldiness”.
Although cheese does not have a profile that I am aware of (perhaps due to his past misdeeds), I am absolutely certain he is the same social circle as his sibling at DLS, but was not able to find the “Holy Grail” I was originally looking for: a pic of cheese & his posse on myspace.
B, if you want a link to my findings, you can always email me since I will not post picture myspace photo albums for the world to see, but I’m thinking you already know.
I also wonder what secrets Colby Wade Eppard carried with him to the grave…
Yes, thanks Javier, we do have that.
It is my opinion that as a function of his prole he is not permitted to have a social site.
B
“Christy S says:
March 8, 2010 at 12:10 am
Does anyone know if Morgan attended the Crozet Music Festival? It was ove the weekend October 2, 3 and 4 at Misty Mountain. A local photographer has posted over a 1000 pics of the event at elstudio.pro and the password is on the festival’s facebook page if anyone wants to take a look.”
Christy: I just went through all of the photos available on her site. Some beautiful pictures and people. They all look to be having a great time. Although, I saw none of Morgan. Remember the majority of these are taken during the daylight hours. The ones at night were few in number.
On Friday’s set: Raw Dog: picture 37/184
On Satury’s set: Band Set list: picture 288/562
On Satury’s set: Western Albemarle Squad: picture 306/562
I only mention these because it gives others an idea of the setting. Event security was in orange t-shirts
Event staff were in neon green t-shirts
It looks to be well-organized
If Morgan and friends were there I would imagine that they were there at night. Just did not see them in this set of photos during the day But this is just one photographer.
Why do you ask if she was at Crozet Music Festival?
Curious to where she was leading up to Metallica weekend and with whom?
Mom3.0: Where are you, when I need you!
16.alexandra says:
March 8, 2010 at 9:15 am
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/local/article/vmi_cadet_enters_plea_deal_in_rape_case/54251/
The judge sentenced Lloyd to spend one year in jail, and a fine of $2,500. However, the judge suspended the sentenced for three years. If Lloyd stays out of trouble during those three years, he will not have to serve the time.
Okay, here’s what we the people have to change.
The judge says, the next time you rape a girl, we’re going to go through with punishment. Wonder who the next one is going to be? your daughter? my daughter? your sister?..THEN Lloyd will be punished..but not until the next time…Geesh! What’s with these judges?
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Here is another link to that story with very disturbing information.
http://commonwealthchronicle.com/tag/stephen-lloyd/
The misdemeanor sexual battery charge and delayed sentencing are part of a plea agreement that Rockbridge County Circuit Judge Michael Irvine accepted at a hearing on the eve of Lloyd’s jury trial, which was supposed to start Wednesday.
So Judge Michael Irvine must feel that Stephen Julius Lloyd will just rehabilitate himself? From rapist to upstanding citizen. He rapes a young lady, but hey, let’s suspend his sentence for three whole long years and let’s just see if he has learned how to keep his hands to himself. Let’s set him free and facilitate him being able to ravage another person’s life.
I will rememember this judge’s name b/c if Stephen Julius Lloyd rapes again, and statistics are in favor of that, I truly believe Judge Michael Irvine should be held accountable. I know that won’t happen, but if it could, maybe sentences would be more worthy of the crimes.
This is absolutely disgusting.
CHANGE is what we need to demand.
Oh, and btw, Stephen Julius Lloyd is NOT registerd as a sex ofender in Virginia b/c the judge ruled the way he chose to rule.