Morgan Harrington Murder: Why Anchorage Farm?
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Charlottesville, VA– Morgan Harrington, 20 year old Virginia Tech Student found murdered on Anchorage Farm January 26 2010, was put there for a reason.
Image of Original Work By Nancy Bass
It was clear from Lt. Joe Rader’s press conference on February 4 that the location of Morgan’s remains is critical to the investigation, and to the identity of the individuals responsible.
Why Anchorage Farm?
David and Nancy Bass, owners of Anchorage Farm and the residential dwellings therein, own a boatload of land.
B O A T L O A D.
Mr. Bass, is also a longstanding member of the Albemarle County Zoning Appeals Board. In fact, he is the Chairman of the ACZAB since 2007, where he preceded this position at the Vice Chair since 2000.
Between 2005 and 2008, let’s agree there is a “run” on raw land in Albemarle County VA, in particular.
Like many families owning large tracts of land, there is always the dilemma of staying ahead of the zoning curve or preserving their land while paying taxes only on the residence.
Anchorage Farm, like almost 90% of surrounding vacant land, was registered in the Agricultural and Forrestal preservation program.
Location, Location, Location
The forced sale of Biscuit Run due to David Breeden’s original will was a disaster to its purchasers including Hometown crooner Dave Matthews.
A $46 Million dollar purchase from the Breeden family was recently bailed out by VDOT for under $10 Million.
There are lukewarm results to Blandemar Farms in its infancy.
The fresh sale of the first-of-its-kind development marrying land preservation and *ethereal* elite* estates* known as Bundoran Farms, Bass withdraws his 654 acre contribution to the Hardware District renewal.
Mr. and Mrs. Bass re-parceled and re-deeded their land in 2007. I have studied this tract closely; there is no doubt in my mind this land was being prepped for development with exactly the right easements for “right of way” purposes in place.
Nearly every other landowner was now in the 10 year plan with the possibility of not just one, but two significant luxury development projects on the horizon while their land is restricted from development of a “more intense use.”
Translation:
Holy Sh*t, my land could be “not subject to further subdivision” and worth half of what it is now in 10 years. Gulp.
Morgan’s remains were found in parcel 41a.
Which would coincide with the 4 and 1 parts of her families creed o; I choose to take comfort in that.
Keeping up with the Jonesbrights
As an example, let’s use the adjacent property tracts across Red Hill.
The Howell, Waybright, Napier and Hager Families own the largest preserved adjacent trac on Monacan, which from a plot perspective, you might argue is land-locked due to Mr. Bass ‘s re-zoning.
Now, before I get 300 posts asking if I am suggesting Morgan Harrington was murdered out of revenge of a land dispute; of course not.
I am simply saying it is possible that part of the motive of the persons responsible for Morgan’s death to place her on exactly the parcel she was, may have been a combination of comfort AND perceived payback.
I have personally worked with developers on a similar project and I have seen a man have his land value cut in half by not completing the planning process prior to new zoning amendments AFTER granting easements through it. Utter Nightmare.
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Yep what kee kee said! Minnie Penny, I’ll bring the grahm crackers and hershey bars.
Get rid of the predators period.They will never be productive members of society.Public punishment might make a difference,its worth a try maybe.
Who agrees with me?
I have a firm belief that sex offenders cannot be cured, that it is a “disease” so to speak and that once caught, they should never be released to interface with the general public again because they will offend again.
I strongly believe that if laws were changed so that convicted sex offenders would never walk freely with the public ever again, statistics would reflect a tremedous drop in violent crimes.
Hoping today is the day that the monster(s) who did this to Morgan are arrested !!!!
re:Judi says:
March 4, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Who agrees with me?
I have a firm belief that sex offenders cannot be cured, that it is a “disease” so to speak and that once caught, they should never be released to interface with the general public again because they will offend again.
I strongly believe that if laws were changed so that convicted sex offenders would never walk freely with the public ever again, statistics would reflect a tremedous drop in violent crimes.
Hoping today is the day that the monster(s) who did this to Morgan are arrested !!!!
I agree 100%!!!
January 25, 2010 was the day EMH reregistered as a sex offender. Seems reasonably likely he did so because he had caught the attention of LE as a result of this case and they had had a chat with his probation officer who realized he was late.
I think we are making an assumption that he was subject to GPS tracking. Maybe blink knows if he was or not and I am sure there are people here more familiar with VA postrelease supervision laws than I am, but you do not get GPS tracking automatically for rape unless the victim was under 13. According to the SO registry, he was convicted under 18.2-61, but it does not say what provision of this section. 18.2-61(iii) — the under 13 offense — is the only one that requires GPS tracking for three years after release. Section (i) which is intercourse with someone over 13 through force and (ii) which is sex with someone who is incapacitated. Unfortunately, the court records are unavailable, probably because he was a minor, and I was unable to find any media story on his arrest/trial that may have shed light on what he did, but I suspect it was not a violation of (iii) as that should have carried a higher prison term given his age. I suspect it was (i) as he is classified as violent.
Under 19.2-295.2:1(B), I think his later conviction in August 2008 for failing to register should have put him in the GPS program, but the court records do not show that this was ordered.
I can’t confirm or deny the GPS issue, but I think your post is sound.
B
B is it possible one of the perps is deceased and a son of a big political donater/contributer?
in memory of gini,yes i hope so,but its not looking like they are going to be able to put this on emh with dna,they surely have results by now, imo ,there’s either no dna or its not matching any rso’s.
Judi,
I agree with you. Research and study has shown that the majority of convicted SOs will repeat the crime once released. I don’t think that chance should be taken. As in the cases that we’ve heard of, where even psychiatrists have evaluated the person as a danger to the public, why should children or anyone, for that matter, have to pay the price?
Radiogirl, I’ve thought the same so many times. This may be heathenistic, but so are they. Turn the communities where they commit these unspeakable crimes loose on them. Thanks MinniePenney. I’m passing on the marshmallows. And the s’mores.
Thanks Debbie Baxter. I had forgotten about that person. That question was brought up on the findmorgan site, I think, and Dr. Harrington said there is no relation. If Blink hasn’t already, that one can be put to rest. IMO
TDBone’s pictures are incredible. Great work.
Pictures 43-50 are where I’m putting my cheese. The gate is latched, but not locked. It is the shortest point between the road and Morgan. I know most people have their cheese on the other gate, and I may be wrong- but it is secluded, and surrounded by woods on all sides. Looks like a “hang out” spot at the clearing in the middle. I think Morgan was there, around a campfire. I think it is there where she was attacked and killed. That is your primary crime scene. I don’t think there was ever any need to put her in a vehicle or an ATV. I think she was carried to where she was found. They could have cleaned themselves up in the little brook on the way back to the site. Scanned the area- realized her boots, necklace, and purse were still there. Cleaned up what they could, got their story straight. One of them took the battery from the phone, wiped it, and took her camera. The perps simply just “left”. One drove back to the RV lot, pulled in and threw her purse out the window. Perhaps dumped the boots somewhere on the way. Then he went home. No witnesses. Parents and friends might not even suspect anything until the body was found on AF. Ofcourse, I reserve the right to change my mind, but so far- this makes the most sense to me.
If someone is talking, as Blink suggests, they may only be admitting to dropping Morgan off at that location, or at the store where her debit card was used (possibly he or his vehicle was seen). Even if he’s saying who was there- but it would be his word against their’s without physical evidence. LE needs more than that. They have to put these people at the scene with either strong eyewitness testimony, or physical evidence. Hence, the wait for DNA/tox screening results. I’m praying for solid DNA evidence.
Judi
Agree with you. In Saudi, they just chop their heads off with a great long sword. Suit me!
3.Judi says:
March 4, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Who agrees with me?
I have a firm belief that sex offenders cannot be cured, that it is a “disease” so to speak and that once caught, they should never be released to interface with the general public again because they will offend again.
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I strongly agree. If anything good can come from these most recent cases- I really hope awareness is risen and the public outcry is so vehement that lawmakers start to change things.
Show me where a pedophile or rapist has ever been cured. Show me one…EVER. It is not a “disease”. It is a genetic flaw. It cannot be fixed or cured. It is never “if” they offend again. It is WHEN.
Debbie Baxter – re: Bill-O
I am very conscious that BOC is not the venue to debate personal politics, but I have to address this comment from you, Deb:
“… Let’s get Blink on Bill O’Reilly and get some laws changed!!!!”
While I wholeheartedly agree with the second part of your sentiment pertaining to sex-offense sentencing laws… Bill O’friggin-Reilly???
Again, my utter disdain for him and his participation in a hypocritical, right-wing propoganda “news” machine completely aside, he’s an on-the-record mysogynist, has been accused of sexual harassment (settling out of court and paying his accuser a multi-million dollar sum); AND he also has a history of making blame-the-victim remarks about sexual assaults.
To wit, among an appalling number of examples over the years was his take on the rape and murder of 18-year-old Jennifer Moore – specifically, how she was *complicit* in the crimes because of where she was walking (after her car was impounded in NYC) and what she was wearing.
See him debate his rape-victim “advocacy” here, along with [sucks in deep breath/regains composure] the *lovely* (no offense, Lovely) Michelle Malkin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk3AM5RN9HY
And if this video doesn’t compel you to punch your computer moniter, there are clips out there (anyone could find on their own) of O’Reilly on his radio show around the same time, wherein he calls Moore and a friend with her the night of her brutal murder “moronic girls,” clearly applying the ol’ she-was-asking-for-it logic to the horrific crime.
B, how ’bout I get you on with Rachel Maddow?
LMAO, yes great idea, put me on the show with the Rhodes scholar where I can discuss my investigative analysis techniques utlizing thinking goblets and cheese jumpsuits.
Just when I Thought we were buds!
B
; )
John says: In Saudi, they just chop their heads off with a great long sword. Suit me!
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Which one? I’d settle for either though
John, me, too “”Marshmallows Optional”
>>John says:
March 4, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Minnie
ROTFLMBO
Judi,
Rape is not a genetic issue. Rape is about Control.
Blink, Do we know for a fact if she was raped?
Has not been released. It is my belief, unfortunately.
B
John – re: Ever hear of Sharia Law?
(You said) “In Saudi, they just chop their heads off with a great long sword. Suit me!”
They may not chop the ladies’ heads off for such an offence, but they *will* sentence a woman to 100 or so lashes and a lengthy jail sentence for being raped, which is considered “sex out of wedlock.”
Just sayin’.
Thanks for the warm welcome Ragdoll!
I’m in awe of the truly awesome brain power at BOC. It is powerful! I don’t have much to contribute – but have been amazed at the collective power of the posters.
And a wave to A Texas Grandfather! I’m a Texan relocated to Virginia (Charlottesville/Albemarle area in fact) – but always a Texan at heart. To add to your comments from last night about young women learning to protect themselves – and after reading some of the personal stories of close calls, I felt compelled to write today.
My 17 yo daughter and I took a self defense course at UVA last Spring (a year ago) at my daughter’s request (she was going to move into a dorm the following Fall). It was an amazing experience. I’m a reserved, shy, don’t look at me sideways woman who was freaking out the first evening when we had to yell and stick our fists in the air and kick and hit. I felt nauseous – I wanted to run from the classroom. I don’t take criticism well – I’m not comfortable in groups of strangers and I was the next to the oldest woman in the room (most of the 25 or so of us were UVA students). It was OUT OF MY COMFORT ZONE experience. But I did it for my daughter.
But by the end of the 6th week I was hitting and kicking and head butting and kneeing the h#ll out of the police officer in the padded attacker suit. I was a screaming machine – in fact I was voted to be the loudest of the class. And today, yesterday, last week as I walk(ed) from my office to the parking garaged I am/was more in charge, more aware, and more empowered than I have been in all of my 43 years. I could take down just about anyone who got in my face, in my space. . . . . don’t mess with me if you want to stay intact.
As you can tell it was an amazing life change. My daughter wants to take the course again – she doesn’t feel quite so empowered – but she does wait at the bus stop and watch the people around her differently. She also feels differently about me – it was truly a “bonding mother daughter experience.” But she may not feel as powerful as I do – but she also doesn’t feel compelled to answer questions which she knows were asked of her just to get a reaction. She is more aware of her surroundings. The role playing the police officers and course instructors did was amazing life-like. We had to pretend we were standing at an ATM and a man came up behind and began harassing or just standing close or making fun of our T-shirt – or just something to give themselves an opportunity to get up close so they could grab us. It was soooooo scary – and intense – and real. And ultimately at the end of it – very empowering.
I think all young women would benefit from such a course. We learned how to get out from underneath a man on the floor – how to flip him over – like in the case of a date rape. The police officer who team-taught the course was tall, strong and intense (and had a REALLY foul mouth). He taught this course b/c his sister was raped at college years ago. He has a heart of gold. A truly fine person who was obviously not teaching the class for the $.
Anyway – I had no idea I was going to “say” this much – but I feel like if we are not going to change the laws and the RSO are living among us as I am now so very much aware that they are – I think we need to empower the women and girls at the very least.
Dolce
Judi,
I agree with you whole heartedly. And to me, protecting innocent children, young adults, old adults, etc…to me protecting INNOCENT people is far more important than worrying about violent offenders rights. Maybe there is some evidence that shows that some can be rehabilitated, but the chances you take by releasing them to see if it worked are far too risky. Who is willing to take that chance? Im not willing to take that chance and have a so-called rehabilitated violent sex offender around my loved ones, it certainly wouldn’t be fair to take that chance with someone else’s loved ones. Lock em. Keep our kids safe.
Judi says:
March 4, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Who agrees with me?
I have a firm belief that sex offenders cannot be cured, that it is a “disease” so to speak and that once caught, they should never be released to interface with the general public again because they will offend again.
Apparently I have something more to say . . . . and yes I’m well aware I don’t say anything half as cleverly, interestingly or well as anyone else writing here . . . . but here goes.
A question: Concerning the house which burned down near AF around the same time Morgan was found – the one on Red Hill – was this arson? Or has arson been ruled out? Could this have been a diversion set to try to cover up or delay Morgan’s being found? Sounds silly as I write it – but here goes nothing. I think the coincidence is just too much to rule out a connection.
Dolce
The house that burnt was on Sutherland, not Red Hill. I have not seen a final disposition on that fire.
B
Blink said, “LMAO, yes great idea, put me on the show with the Rhodes scholar where I can discuss my investigative analysis techniques utlizing thinking goblets and cheese jumpsuits.”
Blink, you’d do fine. You’re a very pretty blonde. You could walk all over him. And I’ve heard you speak on scaredmonkeys and I’ve seen you come back at some frank speakers here on this board. I have no doubt you’d be able to put even Ann Coulter in her place given the chance.
Aaw. I feel like a putz, do I not know who you are and really should?
B
I know of a guaranteed cure for rapists and murderers — DEATH. It’ll cure what ails ‘em.
The more I hear about the boy in the cheese jumpsuit, the more I think he is the one. But not the only one.
I hope an arrest is made soon.
Blink: If your statement wasn’t funny enough.
“LMAO, yes great idea, put me on the show with the Rhodes scholar where I can discuss my investigative analysis techniques utlizing thinking goblets and cheese jumpsuits. Just when I Thought we were buds! B”
But, I would be more than willing to make that appearance with you. Your moral support, if you will. We can bring Ragdoll along for our spiritual hugger!
I travel light. A simple cooler is all you need.
But, he might have a problem when they introduce me.
And, now BOC’s other pundit. She witty, emotionial, cries at a drop of a hat, is a grief stricken Gemini and loves Bret Michaels and his hair, (back when he had it) and loves lipgloss and clogs but I am sure sure she has something to offer???
“fish”
Gasps in the audio booth!
p.s. Please give me my 15 but first onto hair and makeup!
((((Morgan))))
3.Judi says:
March 4, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Who agrees with me?
I have a firm belief that sex offenders cannot be cured, that it is a “disease” so to speak and that once caught, they should never be released to interface with the general public again because they will offend again.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I totally agree. Our society is allowing these predators to go free, after a little time in jail. Then the are freed to go, abduct and kill again. It angers me to no end!
My hope and prayer is that LE has DNA and are building a strong case against Morgan’s murderer/s. May this be the day they are arrested. He/they have walked around free for far too long.
Justice for Morgan!!!!
leave it to this site, to bring me back from a really bad morning.
1.redly says:
March 4, 2010 at 1:03 pm
January 25, 2010 was the day EMH reregistered as a sex offender
Does anyone know what one does with free time that is available. You have work, home and whatelse??? friends and family??? hobbies??? paperwork???
The gate that is in the pictures 43-50 might be easy to get in, but getting a body down the hill on the other side to place it where Morgan was found would be hard, especially in the dark. Why would you do that when you could drive all the way? I remember when I was younger going down in that bottom area to pick berries. It is really easy to get through there in a vehicle. I imagine trespassers who hunt might take their vehicles through there right up to where they hunt, and never be seen.
Ok … trying to make sense of the land issues. Assuming B is correct: “there is no doubt in my mind this land was being prepped for development with exactly the right easements for ‘right of way’ purposes in place,” then:
1)Kid overhears parents talking about Bass is gonna develop that land, it’s gonna kill our property value, etc. Kid isn’t necessarily educated about property deeds, zoning, etc. BUT, he knows very well the exact land they’re talking about and he’s happy to join in the opportunity to feel resentful. (Adolescent sex offenders are found to have high levels of resentment.)
2) Does the ‘fact’ that the land was being prepped for development mean that they had made physical changes to the property? (Not just re-zoning, but making it more accessible, changing gates, clearing a path for potential buyers to view the land, etc.)
3)Does the ‘fact’ that Bass is going to sell these parcels help explain why he was on that part of his property when he found Morgan? I think people have speculated that it seemed odd for him to be out in that area at that time of year. Maybe it didn’t have to do with his farm; it had to do with his preparation for sale.
4)Yes, placing a body in one of the very parcels planned for development seems more than coincidence. Either the BG wanted her to be found (certainly more likely she’ll be found on property that’s going to be developed than on property that is still “preserved”), or he was focused more on his spite than on being smart about his crime. I vote for the latter. I don’t see the BG as a smart criminal.
re: Can sexual offender be treated? There are different types of sexual offenders. Those for whom it has any sexual component … virtually impossible to treat. There are other subcategories of offenders for whom treatment is a bit more promising.
re: O’Reilly and “blame the victim”. With all due respect, I think he’s kind of saying that she should have read “The Gift of Fear”. I hope that our society can discuss that there is “moronic” behavior that puts an individual at risk while still acknowledging that this is entirely different from “blame.” The two are not mutually exclusive. O’Reilly may be goofy, but he is hugely involved in victims’ rights and changing laws to protect victims.
@ total amateur
I have to say, I also agree with your theory. I believe that Morgan was hanging out with a group of people that night. It seems more likely that she would have felt “safe” with a group of kids rather than one lone male. How she came to meet up with this group or whether she knew them or not, I am unsure of. It can been seen as logical that the BIB’s were the ones that Morgan went to hang out with that night. I had posted on the other thread that the BIB’s may have been local drug dealers that went to the arena that night to see if they could make a few extra bucks. If they were hanging around the parking lots that night they would have been leaving around the same time that Morgan was last seen. Usually once the parking lots clear out and concert-goers are headed into the show for the main event, the vendors/dealers will leave as well. Maybe they approached Morgan, she told them about her situation (stuck outside of the concert) and they offered for her to come with them, and they would drop her off after the show.
Years ago there was a case in CT where a group of 8 (both male & female) raped and killed a 13 year old girl. They tossed her body wrapped in a blanket and chains, into a lake. Her body was found 9 months later. It took 5 years for there to be arrests in that case, despite a large reward from the governor of CT. This group never caved and never told on the others involved (until the arrests of course). I had always wondered why no one came forward to claim the reward, but I guess no money is worth the price of freedom.
I just hope that someone is found soon in Morgan’s case. I would hate to see this case drag on for years. There is killer(s) out there and I hope he/they left something behind and LE can connect all the dots soon. It’s obvious the $150,000 isn’t getting any one to talk…
16.In Memory of Gini says:
March 4, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Rape is not a genetic issue. Rape is about Control.
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I think it’s been pretty well documented that the act of rape is about control. But the genetic flaw IMHO is in the mind of the perpetrator who acts out this need for control in such a way.
bevolovr, you think it started as a murder that led to rape? or vice versa? i’m in the crime of oppty rape-that-ended-badly camp, but who knows.
Does cheese jumpsuit own/drive a vehicle? If so, what kind?
Well. On paper no.
In the driveway, yes.
B
and since i’m the only 1-perp woman, can ya’ll tell me why we need two perps?
I have poor Morgan already incapacitated before he stops to open the gate at red hill rd and then stop to close it behind him again—-farm gates are a true pain—or else she would escape–but maybe that’s why some of you have two perps?
Finally caught up on all the great posts — just merely FWIW — I think Morgan left JPJ for a specific reason. I think the friends knew/know the specific reason. I pray every day they have given that specific reason to LE. My heart seems to be softening regarding the friends. They made a tragic error in not going to be w/ Morgan when she called; however, as Dr. H stated, Morgan made the decision to leave, Morgan made the decision not to reach out to other friends in the Cvlle area, or to call them or even Alex. Don’t misunderstand that statement. I do not hold Morgan responsible for what happened to her. Again, in my view, those friends made a second grievous error in the Halloween and search scenarios. But they do not have the wisdom of being older and knowing the dangers that lurked in Cvlle that night. I do believe the friends hold key information, and I hope they have told LE everything. If they have not, if they are holding a “secret” inside because they’re afraid it will get them in trouble — that secret will eat them alive — I hope they do get counseling to cope w/ this incredible loss and reveal all they know. It would probably turn out not to be as serious as their imaginations make it.
I think Morgan willingly got into the vehicle. I think there is more than one person involved in all of this. I believe that other person may be female. I’m torn on the next part — if Morgan was killed immediately, I believe she died in the car — if the initial crime scene is not a car, then I believe she was taken to a residence, not out in the woods at a party spot. The weather was just foul. It is impossible for me to dismiss out of hand the house fire that happened. unless there is a confession, any evidence linking Morgan to that house has been destroyed.
I do not in any way believe that AF was a random drop spot. Irrespective of how and/or where ingress was made to the property — even if it was the front gate — (I hear ya, Blink — hypo here : ) — you still had to have knowledge of the topography of that land — maps do not accuratey relay the difficulty of reaching that particular area — whether by foot, SUV, tractor, 4-wheeler, etc. — I believe she was placed in the tree line and either weather or animal predation moved her body —
I am not accusing, but it would not surprise me if it comes out that someone did put a bug in Bass’s ear, causing him to search that particular area that morning.
I absolutely believe in hard science. I thought Morgan’s tests were being run at the FBI lab in Quantico, but it was sent to the Va. lab for testing, hence the “up to 6 months” wait — I read that in a Hook article that I can’t link, so take it FWIW
The next part, I wish I had a solid clue of “who done it” — I do not. I do believe in the investigation of this matter, something larger has been discovered. I believe when the truth is told — and it will be — people’s mouths are going to drop open — there are close associates/relatives of at least one person responsible for this, and they are suspicious and maybe even confronted the BG and are covering it up.
So all of my faith and all of my cheese rest in the hands of LE at this point, and praying the science will give solid evidence.
Also …
Observer says:
March 3, 2010 at 11:23 pm
TO: skyler: Would you perhaps be able to take your girl’s BF “Hound Dog” around the area/neighbohood in your search for her? Maybe she could pick up his scent?…
Thank you, Observer, that is an excellent idea. I’ll ask his owners if I can borrow him when I get off from work this afternoon. I have her blanket he can use to get her scent. He knows she’s gone, in a weird dog knowing kind of way. He is always hanging around here. He truly loves her, and she gets so excited when she sees him — it’s like Lady and the Tramp.
I’m trying to put on a brave face, and I know a dog is not like losing a human being, but it’s just too much — my dog Charlie was killed the night before I moved, then my cat was gone the next week, and I think eaten by that bear, and now Lexi is gone — causes me to admire and respect and love the Harringtons more.
Thank you to all who have asked about her and prayed for her — I appreciate it more than you know.
Sky
Can u e me a pic of our pup? I am sorry my friend.
B
J2K,
Funny how 2 people can get something totally different out of a video. O’Reilly is not blaming the victim at all. He is simply trying to teach a point. Young people, especially girls, have to learn not to put themselves into dangerous or vulnerable positions because there are very BG’s out there. He is saying that parents can only watch over their daughters for so long then they must set them free. I have family in law enforcement and they made sure to stress these points to us on a daily basis. Try not to put yourselves in dangerous, vulnerable situations. Try to stay in groups, there is safety in numbers. Never leave alone and never leave your friends alone. Unfortunately, there are times, like in Morgan’s case, where the circumstances put some things out of control.
That being said, I think everybody should try to teach and learn from these tragic happenings. I have and will continue to use Morgan’s unfortunate events to teach my young adult daughter. I think the only good that can come from this case is the hope that other young girls will learn these lessons. And reading some of the posts from the Harrington’s and the university, I feel they are doing everything they can to educate also. In fact, it was Mr. Harrington that posted the UVA Women’s Center article on safety on findmorgan.com
“Fwiw, I dont think unsub no.1 may be denying he was with Morgan that evening.
My complete supposition tells me that the clock reset on January 25th .
B”
I think you are absolutely spot on Blink. Solid as a rock.
Redly – the thinking behind your post is correct. But I would be suprised if that individual was put into the GPS programme as a result of his August 2008 conviction.
Correct, I believe they just simply caught him living somewhere other than where he was supposed to-
B
mag603,
I’m so sorry about the loss of your cousin. Another senseless tragedy for a loving family to have to go through. I understand your family’s relief and it’s not insensitive. Not at all. Blessings to you and yours.
If there is DNA of the RSO, would that be enough to arrest and charge him? Or, could he explain that away with, yes, we were together but I dropped her off at such and such. Would they need to wait until they could connect him with the found location of her body (AF) since there are no eye witnesses or other proof that he did anything wrong?
In looking at crimes reported in the time frame, there is a major crime that happened on Oct 17th — there was a rape which occurred not far from JPJ —
Now, as to 9-1-1 calls about any crime report — 911 calls are public record in Va. — all 911 calls — I do not know if Albemarle keeps those on file for X number of days, weeks, months, etc. — but you can submit a FOIA request to both C-vlle and Albemarle — the first link is to the form you have to use — the information on the bottom is about Va’s FOIA — it’s a PDF form for Albemarle — you’d have to print it off — you can request Bass’s 911 call to Albemarle and find out exactly what he said as to the discovery —
http://www.albemarle.org/upload/images/forms_center/departments/human_resources/forms/FOIA_Request_Form.pdf
I cannot find one for Cvlle — but you do not have to have a form, you can just call ‘em up and ask for it — the 911 calls on the 17th and 18th of October would be extremely telling.
A word of warning, your request may be denied due to it being an integral part of an ongoing investigation — but what the hay — you can’t get it unless you ask —
posted below is information regarding Va’s FOIA — it is an interesting read
this talks about requests to the Dept of Accounts — but it gives very good info regarding foia in Va. — and the statute
Rights Responsibilities
The Virginia Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), located at § 2.2-3700 et seq. of the Code of Virginia, guarantees citizens of the Commonwealth and representatives of the media access to public records held by public bodies, public officials, and public employees.
A public record is any writing or recording – regardless of whether it is a paper record, an electronic file, an audio or video recording, or any other format – that is prepared or owned by, or in the possession of a public body or its officers, employees or agents in the transaction of public business. All public records are presumed to be open, and may only be withheld if a specific, statutory exemption applies.
The policy of FOIA states that the purpose of FOIA is to promote an increased awareness by all persons of governmental activities. In furthering this policy, FOIA requires that the law be interpreted liberally, in favor of access, and that any exemption allowing public records to be withheld must be interpreted narrowly.
Your FOIA Rights
You have the right to request to inspect or receive copies of public records, or both.
You have the right to request that any charges for the requested records be estimated in advance.
If you believe that your FOIA rights have been violated, you may file a petition in district or circuit court to compel compliance with FOIA.
Making a Request for Records from the Department of Accounts
You may request records by U.S. Mail, fax, e-mail, in person, or over the phone. FOIA does not require that your request be in writing, nor do you need to specifically state that you are requesting records under FOIA.
From a practical perspective, it may be helpful to both you and the person receiving your request to put your request in writing. This allows you to create a record of your request. It also gives us a clear statement of what records you are requesting, so that there is no misunderstanding over a verbal request. However, we cannot refuse to respond to your FOIA request if you elect to not put it in writing.
Your request must identify the records you are seeking with “reasonable specificity.” This is a common-sense standard. It does not refer to or limit the volume or number of records that you are requesting; instead, it requires that you be specific enough so that we can identify and locate the records that you are seeking.
Your request must ask for existing records or documents. FOIA gives you a right to inspect or copy records; it does not apply to a situation where you are asking general questions about the work of the Department of Accounts, nor does it require the Department of Accounts to create a record that does not exist.
You may choose to receive electronic records in any format used by the Department of Accounts in the regular course of business.
For example, if you are requesting records maintained in an Excel database, you may elect to receive those records electronically, via e-mail or on a computer disk, or to receive a printed copy of those records.
If we have questions about your request, please cooperate with staff’s efforts to clarify the type of records that you are seeking, or to attempt to reach a reasonable agreement about a response to a large request. Making a FOIA request is not an adversarial process, but we may need to discuss your request with you to ensure that we understand what records you are seeking.
Blink, you “speculated” a while back about a perp leaving something behind that he wished he hadn’t… and it was too dark to look for it.
So, I tried to think again what someone might drop while stumbling through the woods in the dark, adrenaline pumping out of control, while trying to move a body. What would “pop” out of someone’s pocket without them noticing at first. A lighter? Glove? Hat? Flask? Pack of smokes? Glasses? Jacknife? Usually when something falls out of a pocket, especially jeans, it’s a little bit too big to be in it. Then I recalled all the “Jailhouse Blues” remarks, and thought…Harmonica? That would probably be too good to be true.
I too agree with the “sex offenders can’t be cured” concept. The one issue I have with the RSO system however is the fact that it is too broad and difficult to understand the offense codes. I can pull up the map for RSO in my neighborhood (there are many!) but I can’t determine what they did. My husband is an attorney and I have to ask him what the codes mean.
I don’t agree with the fact some individuals have to register, for example 18 year old boy sleeps with his 15 year old girlfriend, gets reported, convicted and has to register for the next 25 years. This actually happened in my little town and years later, they are married, have children and he is a RSO. Her parents (who reported him in the first place!) have written to see if they can have him removed but not possible. This to me minimizes the system. We need to know in plain English what the individual has been convicted of and the violent offenders, rapists, child molesters should never get another chance. They cannot be “cured”!
Last post — this is regarding the release of RSO and SO’s back into the populice. you’ll have to go back and look for it but Texas Grandfather makes an excellent point, and one which I was going to make, as well.
The jail sentence for any crime that is a state crime and not a federal crime is governed by Va. statute. The Legislature enacts the laws, which YOUR representatives put before it. A law will remain on the books until it is either challenged in a court of law or a bill is brought forth to the Gen. Assembly and the law is changed.
The Commonwealth of Va. is hurting financially, hence the early release dates of these offenders — especially in a juvenile setting — if this is an election year, then contact your representatives and let ‘em know if they want to stay in office, they need to bring some pressure to bear — believe me if they can figure out a way to make it work for them, they’ll advertise: Vote for John Doe, who is tough on crime !! I am not familiar w/ laws at the local level governing RSOs, but make some noise at the county/city levels.
Start a grass roots coalition — and you can get funding from different companies — like Bill Gates — seriously — in Va. there’s a group called something like fathers against paying high child support — they were given grants by one of the big car companies — I can’t remember now —
Saying something outta be done will never change the laws. and if you are like me, by the end of the day, there’s not a lot left over to put my energies into getting this started and making noise. But young people have energy — get them to writing — make it a senior government project for high school —
I think it was Suz who said very early that she’d take the Metallica money and round her up a posse and go after the BGs —
I think that is still a great idea — maybe we could call this movement in every state: Morgan’s Posse —
Back to work — and calling for my dog to come home : (
Link5150 – re: Different folks, different strokes…
Agreed that two people with different perspectives can interpret points from the same video, well, differently. Perhaps my point would have been more salient if I had attached his “moronic girls” radio clip instead. That said, I also agree with you that young women should be taught – and remain ever-mindful – of being vulnerable to attack or inadvertantly putting themselves in a dangerous position.
But, as important as that message is, it’s also important who it comes from and in what context – personally, I’d refrain from sending anyone’s daughter into a private “personal safety” lecture with Mr. Bill “the Defendant” O’Reilly.
(His victim’s full sexual harassment complaint here:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/1013091oreilly1.html
Warning: not for the weak of heart… or stomach.)
Regarding the location, I live in a remote part of a heavily wooded state and I drive a lot for my job. As I was driving today, we have many roads, two tracks, hunting camps and such off the highway and it solidified my belief that Morgan’s murderer had to have known the area. One would never drive down an unfamiliar road to dispose of a person without knowing what was back there. What if there were a house back there and someone was home?
Also, I think there was more than one. Maybe someone else knew of the location but wouldn’t it be “smart” for someone to serve as a lookout while one or more brought Morgan back there? What if someone came and saw the vehicle? Maybe someone drove the vehicle around while the others went into the woods?
I don’t know, just thinking, actually I am bored at work and my mind is wandering!
blink ,when does the public get to find out who unsub 1 is?
When he is arrested.
B
To clarify past remarks in which I said I felt the murderer had no “particular familiarity with Anchorage Farm”. I do believe he was a central Virginia local who had general knowledge of the area perhaps from regularly driving 29 and its various intersecting roads; I just don’t think he will be found by looking for someone with direct links to Anchorage or any grievance against the Basses. He picked Anchorage as a somewhat convenient, secluded dark spot. And I do live in the general vicinity and have driven Rt. 708 (Red Hill Rd.) many times.
J2K says:
Again, my utter disdain for him and his participation in a hypocritical, right-wing propoganda “news” machine completely aside, he’s an on-the-record mysogynist, has been accused of sexual harassment (settling out of court and paying his accuser a multi-million dollar sum); AND he also has a history of making blame-the-victim remarks about sexual assaults.
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If this wasn’t a blatant attempt to spout your political views, I don’t know what is. I am no Bill O’Reilly fan by any means, but I am a Conservative and PROUD OF IT. Your subjective use of adjectives to slam Fox News was a direct attack on my political views. You could have easily expressed your opinion on O’Reilly without the snark attack on an entire political party. Let’s please leave the politics out of this and concentrate on finding Morgan’s killer!
1.alexandra says:
March 4, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Alexandra: I am so happy that you have let go of your rage. It will consume you and disseminate your life and your relationships. I read somewhere concerning this case….
“Let go and let God”, hmmmmm, can’t remember. But anyway, the families of crime victims must follow a recipe of seeking peace, reliance, and strong, strong resiliency. Your affection towards the grace that Mrs. Harrington shows is what you already possess deep down in your heart and soul. You just took a little longer to find it. You and I have that in common, Alexandra.
Yes, families can be mad and some may even be revengeful but they must move on for truth and justice. This is why everyone posts “Don’t let the BG’s win”. There is reason for that. It doesn’t mean that you do not seek justice…you do. It will come. We are civilized and although you think that, there is so much more evil out there, rest assured, there is more good!
Morgan’s search proved that. There just were so many people! All to help find her.
That was love, baby.
Pure good love, for a girl the majority of us never met.
You don’t know me but I can promise you and maybe Blink will back me up…I am true goodness! I want what everyone here wants. Justice, peace and resolution and for us to always outnumber them!!!
BOC NATION 4,418 and counting!
vs.
BG’s 0
things i wish i knew: did it appear that any items in her purse were wiped of fingerprints?meaning hers weren’t even on them?,were her tights found?tights would hold a plethora of fibers and hairs,my neighbor was convicted on fibers.can bloodhounds be taken to landfill were north garden trash is taken?in the event any evidence was thrown away?so as the tarp(if there was one,you could drag /slide a tarp thru the woods)
Does cheese jumpsuit own/drive a vehicle? If so, what kind?
Well. On paper no.
In the driveway, yes.
B
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Can you at least tell if it is a pickup, jeep, or suv?
Jeep
B