Morgan Harrington Murder: Why Anchorage Farm?
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Charlottesville, VA– Morgan Harrington, 20 year old Virginia Tech Student found murdered on Anchorage Farm January 26 2010, was put there for a reason.
Image of Original Work By Nancy Bass
It was clear from Lt. Joe Rader’s press conference on February 4 that the location of Morgan’s remains is critical to the investigation, and to the identity of the individuals responsible.
Why Anchorage Farm?
David and Nancy Bass, owners of Anchorage Farm and the residential dwellings therein, own a boatload of land.
B O A T L O A D.
Mr. Bass, is also a longstanding member of the Albemarle County Zoning Appeals Board. In fact, he is the Chairman of the ACZAB since 2007, where he preceded this position at the Vice Chair since 2000.
Between 2005 and 2008, let’s agree there is a “run” on raw land in Albemarle County VA, in particular.
Like many families owning large tracts of land, there is always the dilemma of staying ahead of the zoning curve or preserving their land while paying taxes only on the residence.
Anchorage Farm, like almost 90% of surrounding vacant land, was registered in the Agricultural and Forrestal preservation program.
Location, Location, Location
The forced sale of Biscuit Run due to David Breeden’s original will was a disaster to its purchasers including Hometown crooner Dave Matthews.
A $46 Million dollar purchase from the Breeden family was recently bailed out by VDOT for under $10 Million.
There are lukewarm results to Blandemar Farms in its infancy.
The fresh sale of the first-of-its-kind development marrying land preservation and *ethereal* elite* estates* known as Bundoran Farms, Bass withdraws his 654 acre contribution to the Hardware District renewal.
Mr. and Mrs. Bass re-parceled and re-deeded their land in 2007. I have studied this tract closely; there is no doubt in my mind this land was being prepped for development with exactly the right easements for “right of way” purposes in place.
Nearly every other landowner was now in the 10 year plan with the possibility of not just one, but two significant luxury development projects on the horizon while their land is restricted from development of a “more intense use.”
Translation:
Holy Sh*t, my land could be “not subject to further subdivision” and worth half of what it is now in 10 years. Gulp.
Morgan’s remains were found in parcel 41a.
Which would coincide with the 4 and 1 parts of her families creed o; I choose to take comfort in that.
Keeping up with the Jonesbrights
As an example, let’s use the adjacent property tracts across Red Hill.
The Howell, Waybright, Napier and Hager Families own the largest preserved adjacent trac on Monacan, which from a plot perspective, you might argue is land-locked due to Mr. Bass ‘s re-zoning.
Now, before I get 300 posts asking if I am suggesting Morgan Harrington was murdered out of revenge of a land dispute; of course not.
I am simply saying it is possible that part of the motive of the persons responsible for Morgan’s death to place her on exactly the parcel she was, may have been a combination of comfort AND perceived payback.
I have personally worked with developers on a similar project and I have seen a man have his land value cut in half by not completing the planning process prior to new zoning amendments AFTER granting easements through it. Utter Nightmare.
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Judi says:
March 4, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Who agrees with me?
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I’m with you 100%
i did in college especially when i played rugby and we brought a keg of beer onto the field at the end of a game and put the hose right up to our mouths…….but that was yearsssssss ago in the 70s. one time i even woke up in the back of an ambulance whe i got knowcked out at odu. i was highly po’s that i was missing that keg. oh well.
so…yeah
what the hell did john just say????????????
localcvillegirl-
I was referring to bio-dad. Has young RSO’s middle name as first name and his age is 45, I believe. Sorry for the code. I don’t know what’s okay to post and what’s not. And part of me thinks young RSO isn’t directly involved. I would think that they would have already been all over him and I *hope* if he had even one little slip up it would be enough to take him in on a parole violation and make him sit until DNA evidence was back. I might be missing something that we’ve already gone over, however.
Regarding names and land. Is Howell not a significant name here w/respect to Anchorage? I know it was a first name of a Lewis (most likely a maiden name given to a son) Could there be some resentment in that the Howell’s used to own the farm and there is some significance w/ that particular parcel where Morgan was found. Which by the way is barely within the current property lines. Also, Anchorage is listed as a funerary. Still has this function today. Does that just mean it’s a place to hold funerals? And one more thing, has anyone been able to link the spot where Morgan was found to a hiding place. Somewhere someone would go to hide during a place of stress or if he needed a time out of sorts?
aack. arghh. post remorse rpost remorse!! i will speak to yous in the am
Hi All! Just wanted to stop in and say hello. Just a couple of brief comments.
Skyler: Anyone on your dog!
Fish:
BOC NATION 4,418 and counting!
vs.
BG’s 0
Luv my lobes. Woot woot!
J2K: O/T: If I may, just chime in on a small detail that made me chuckle in one of your posts. A smile is good for the heart , no?
(snippet)
J2K says:
March 4, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Geeglouise – re: Simma down… (and: first/last post on this)
Oh this made me laugh, not at you J2K or Geeglouise, but the phrase, and only because I have heard the very correct english and pronunciation of this over rated, and over used line……. I have a teenage son, who, always feels that his mother is always “over reacting”. Probably, but more than likely, I am not. However, with zeal, he accuses me of this as kind of an offensive teenager tactic.
J2K…..With great vocal emphasis on the Z, it rings to the ears as “Zimma don na” or more simply put. “Zim” which equates to our adult verbage as “chill” .
No road scholars here.
Pale Rider: LOVED your post(s). Beautiful posts. I’m cool with the name change. O/T Your post Took me back to the great Clint Eastwood movies, (1984) in particular, Pale Rider. I visualized Clint, the preacher, riding into town on his horse.
I am just waiting for Gene Hackman to show up on this site. Wouldn’t that be a deal in the saloon? Heh?
LOVE FOR MORGAN and the support to find Justice.
I don’t think this crime has anything to do with properties lines or real estate, other than the fact that somebody may have felt “entitled” to hang out on that property whenever they felt like it.
My belief that the violence happened in the immediate area of Anchorage Farm is growing in my head like a tumor.
I hate to get tunnel vision pertaining to a hypothesis. I’d also hate to be wrong and look like a fool when the truth comes out. But the second I saw TDBone’s picture, and saw that path, something in my head just screamed “THAT’S IT.”
Maybe it’s just because it fits my theory. I don’t know. I guess I’ll just reserve the right to be wrong, and reserve the right to move my cheese if or when other facts come to light.
Some of youze will love this FBI stuff on behavioral investigations of serial killers. Very interesting, and very comprehensive.
It’s from a symposium on the subject, described thusly:
snip
A total of 135 subject matter experts attended the five-day event. These individuals included law enforcement officials who have successfully investigated and apprehended serial killers; mental health, academic, and other experts who have studied serial killers and shared their expertise through education and publication; officers of the court, who have judged, prosecuted, and defended serial killers; and members of the media, who inform and educate the public when serial killers strike. The attendees also reflected the international nature of the serial murder problem, as there were attendees from ten different countries on five continents.
The agenda encompassed a variety of topics related to serial murder including common myths, definitions, typologies, pathology and causality, forensics, the role of the media, prosecution issues, investigative task force organization, and major case management issues. Each day included panel discussions, case presentations, and discussion groups addressing a range of topics related to serial murder.
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/serial_murder.htm
Re: J2K – jeep…. Yes, I believe it is a red of the Cherokee type. I’ve seen that pic too.
Yoshi and J2K,
Mr. Cheese’s biological dad currenlty lives in Stanardsville. Also has a few minor brushes with the law, including writing bad checks and hunting violations.
Skyler:
I meant to say Any word on your dog, In my post. Praying for Lexy.
Suz, I can’t see the adam’s apple!!!! She’s wearing a turtle neck!
Fish, thank you so much for your words of wisdom.
Mom, I’m with you. Mrs. Blink can hold her own. I love when some PITA comes here and posts something obnoxious and gets the Mrs. all riled up. She goes right for the jugular. The little lady puts em right in their place. LOVE THAT. But right now, I’d REALLY love to see J2K and Bill go head to head. That would make for some really good primetime cable viewing.. Who do I call at Fox to set that one up…they don’t even have to talk about politics.
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Phy, You wrote that Blink is a very pretty blonde so she would do fine on Reilly, I have no doubt she would, even if she was not. But Rachel Maddow is the Rhode’s Scholar, but don’t worry I’m sure she would appreciate Blink’s good looks too- Right J2K?
I like to watch them both -very entertaining…
keekee says:
March 4, 2010 at 8:09 pm
what the hell did john just say????????????
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keekee,
I think John wants to hug some Arab guy with a sword.
Chad – re: “Simma down…”
I’m willing to relinquish my “Team Cool Kid” T-shirt and admit that I have no idea what you’re talking about…
I was quoting The Wailers song (from, like, 50 years ago).
(But, speaking of “Cool Kids,” where ya been, mon? I feel like it’s been awhile. Hope all is well!)
yoshi – re: “3 -5 years”
(noted:) “J2K- you said: It appears that he committed two acts of rape in the first year he lived at MT Road address, which catapulted him into the juvenile-justice system, leaving little time to freely explore, hunt or otherwise traverse the back end of AF accessible from his new house (not impossible, but not like he “frolicked” there for the last few years as he was monitored 24 hours a day and it would have stood out as illegal trespassing, i.e. probation violation. (Could this have been the 3 – 5 years reference…?) …
“Are you considering that he was incarcerated (juvenile hall) for a period of time. Hence LE’s reference to moving out of the area and then back again? Apolly’s in advance if that’s what you were saying.”
yosh – I’ve found it’s virtually impossible to research those pesky JSOs; their blasted (and likely very disturbing) records are sealed, so I do not know what his sentence was. But (sorry to defer to you again, Esq.) redly seems to know his way around this judicial jungle gym (I’m not sure if our other resident Observer is able to share, in his regard). I was merely following the logic that if it’s clear to investigators, locals and others that the perp(s) – or one of them – *must* to be familiar with the AF/BF site, it points to someone quite local, as kids/teens/(adults even) don’t often drive somewhere like that to trespass.
In fact, the current bulls-eye on his butt definitely stems from his amazingly close proximity to the place her body was found; and, in my opinion, the amateurish attempt made at hiding a body that the killer(s) clearly did *not* want to be found, points to a rather novice local psychopath. Oh, yeah – and his shocking juvenile record and age proximity to MH match the informal profile I have of at least one of the perps. That, too. But where was I…?
Oh, yeah – that said, I can’t be sure that he’s a said local because he’s been ensconced in the legal system – and, yes – probably some juvie time, too, but I have no confirmation of that – ever since his mama moved onto MT Road (to boot: B has suggested that his “failure to register” conviction in ’08 may have been a result of not living where he was registered to live – i.e., *not* at that address).
So, in a sort-of answer to your question: maybe. *Maybe* he grew up in that area or relatively nearby (and/or had a good buddie who lived closer than he to AF) – a little crew of Johnny Switchblade Adventure Punks, if you will – and he went away to a detention center 3-5 years ago when he first got convicted of rape, and now he’s back, even closer to AF, but “reformed”… only, *maybe* he’s not.
TO: suz, re: one perp v. two: You and I may well be the only two here who are still of a mind that Morgan’s perp acted solo. While I’m open to the possibility of an accomplice, I’m maintaining my position of one perp only.
RE, the RSO: B stated “I believe they just simply caught him living somewhere other than where he was supposed to-”
Correct. Unfortunately, this happens more often that we’d like to think, i.e., an RSO originally registers as living in one location but subsequently moves and fails to notify LE of the relocation. [One in particular immediately comes to mind who had relocated far from his original address and only registered the new location after some years.]
ALL: I am re-posting Teri’s post below, in its entirety, because of the extremely important points she makes. I encourage all readers to pay close attention to her assumptions:
“I have to go out on a limb here and say there is no perp DNA found on Morgan. Because, if there was – there would be an arrest by now.
There is NO WAY the VSP would be waiting for weeks to MONTHS for these results. They already know what they are.
So – either the DNA found on her was not out of place.
OR – The DNA is not registered.
Cheese Jumpsuits DNA WOULD be out of place. And, with his history – an arrest would be an obvious thing to do.
So – that leads me to the conclusion that there is no DNA – or the DNA that was found would have good reason to be there. Or – it’s not registered.
Which brings me back to the question…who is the actual murderer – and who was the helper. Maybe Cheese Jumpsuit didn’t commit the act…but was present during the assault?”
My (O) sense: The perp DNA–if any–found on Morgan’s remains is not associated with a RSO.
OT and FWIW: Rachel Maddow is indeed a Rhodes Scholar, holds a PhD from Oxford, and is gay. Ann Coulter holds a J.D. from the Univ. of Michigan and is not gay. Neither are intellectual slouches. [The aforementioned is the sum-total of my political commentary. Period. Full stop.]
TO Josie: Yes, we might only hope that an arrest draws closer.
RE: redly stated: “I think they probably reviewed the files of all the local SOs as part of this investigation. They noticed that he needed to reregister and talked to his probation officer. Would not surprise me if they talked to him before 1/25.”
and
“…his court records do not specify that he went on active supervision at that time — which is what triggers the GPS requirement. Courts do drop the ball all the time.”
Correct on all four points above. [And yes, J2K, you are correct, as well: if the speculation here bears fruit, re: the RSO, that would be the very definition of a "incredibly tragic oversight". I offered in one of many, many posts (in what now feels like ages ago) that the information in any database or record, inc. RSOs, NCIC, court records, service division records, etc. et. al. is only as good as the person keying-in the originating information...and that's often an $8-10/hr. clerk. Errors and omissions happen with more frequency than any of us would like to admit. Sad reality, yes...but I’ve never been wont to varnish over an ugly truth.]
TO: total amateur, you said:
“I don’t think this crime has anything to do with properties lines or real estate, other than the fact that somebody may have felt “entitled” to hang out on that property whenever they felt like it.
I hate to get tunnel vision pertaining to a hypothesis. I’d also hate to be wrong and look like a fool when the truth comes out.
Maybe it’s just because it fits my theory. I don’t know. I guess I’ll just reserve the right to be wrong, and reserve the right to move my cheese if or when other facts come to light.”
Agreed on all counts.
TO: suz 3/4, 8:34pm, re, symposia on serial killers: Many years ago I attended a LE conference. The keynote speaker was the FBI SAIC who was the lead investigator on the Ted Bundy case. He became the person closest to Bundy during his final years prior to his execution, as he wanted to get into Bundy’s head to understand better the mind of a serial killer. It was perhaps the singular, most compelling presentation I’ve ever witnessed.
TO: skyler: Any word yet on the pupper? Keeping good, home-coming pupper thoughts for you and your fur-buddy.
Thanks, J2K, for the info. I was asking if it was white, so that I could go back and look into the rumored sighting of Morgan in a white Jeep.
If this person “rolled” when questioned by LE on Jan 25th, it means on of three things, IMHO:
1.) Somebody else rolled on him first.
2.) Somebody saw him with Morgan.
3.) LE has evidence linking him to Morgan.
Unless, ofcourse, LE bluffed him…:)
the_7 – re: Bio-Dad (somebody wrote that and it’s workin’ for me as a new head-scratching pseudonym)
Stanardsville, ay? Thank you!
I won’t even get into the time I spent hunched close to my monitor thinking Bio-Dad was either a corrupt insurance-company owner in Charlotte, NC, who beat to death a female state inspector auditing his agency in the middle of an afternoon, or a (coincidentally) corrupt, crack-smoking funeral director with the improbable name of Eric Mark Howell…
True stories.
Skyler
I am praying for your pup I know how important she is to you. I feel the same about mine. I pray she comes home. Don’t give up hope. My husband and I rescue doggies alot and have reunited most with their owners. I had a dog once for 1 week then finally we found the owner. Keep the faith. What color is she?
Ask the Vets too sometimes people call them.
emh jeep…definitely red.
http://gisweb.albemarle.org/ShowImage.ashx?t=p&f=P0000131\P0015372
Blue Willow
I second the motion for yesterdays “Post of the Day”
to “Speak Frankly” , but I also greatly appreciate your insight
and what you shared about your son. Very interesting, and food for thought.
Judi, Kathy, MinniePenny, GNM, and
Mr.Total Am :0)…I concur!! It has been proven that a sex offender CANNOT be rehabilitated or cured! Stop wasting time , and put’em away for good! We have to help change these laws!!
I have an extra bag of marshmellows to contribute!
Dolce-aka-screamin’ machine :0),
Welcome, and what a grand entrance you made!
I applaud you and I <3 you for taking part with the college kids, and sharing your personal experience with us. It was especially meaningful, because you shared your hesitancy, shyness and how you overcame that! I hope I don’t run into you in a dark ally :0)
I took a regular self defense with a kick boxing instructer which was pretty lame. You made me want to sign up for a more intense class!
Ragdoll,
A big (((HUG)) to you!
I miss you Bigtime over at FB!
Stay in touch with us!
ROCK ON Palerider!
Very fitting Bevolovr!
Alexandra,
I <3 you for being able to get through another day,
having shared that you experienced 2 horrible events
in your life. I’m glad there were no deaths, and that you
made it through to the other side
Please be easy on yourself. :0) We all process and handle
pain, rage and grief in different ways.
I can relate to what you said about the guilt, and I bet most here feel the same. Morgan lost her life, and her parents have shown so much strength and grace, and I am still in a puddle.
Sweetpea-I’m with you all the way
on Mr Kane! This scary dude needs to be monitored FOREVER!
I am going to go back and re-read his dark comments.
Don’t forget that he was “scouting” at middle schools too! Aahhh!
Sky,
I’m on your page except you are a little further along than I am with the friends.I have to know the TRUTH after the arrests are made,before I can move past their
“LACK OF ANYTHING” both before and AFTER Morgan’s murder.
Still prayin that your pooch comes back to you!
AS for EMH…
Ya think he was livin in Crozet or the house that burned down?
FWIW, I read a discussion from one of the Newpaper articles about the fire, and the actual GIRLS that lived there were debating posters that were asking why they were movin out in the middle of the year, their suspicions etc. Their reply was that it was a chimney fire I think, but the main part “she said that all 3 of them were 3 best friends and they found that it wasn’t workin livin together,
and they wanted to keep their friendship in tact.” Who knows if that is even true. sorry don’t have link.
I am still not ruling out the fire OR Sheriff Willie’s death.
Fish…I agree about stringing EMH up if he admitted it, but
there HAS to be a MORE POWERFUL AUTHORITY FIGURE
controlling this whole thing. Whether it is a parent, LE, EMT, Fire Captain,Rich whatever. This person is what is keepin everyone quiet. I dont think EMH is smart enough to carry this out by himself.
My feeling is that it was kids partying, drugs, attempted sexual advances, rage,… I think it got out of hand, and there was a horrific ending.
People like this are not normal, so I’m not so sure how much THOUGHT went into AFarm-except he knew it, and it was close. Just my opinion, but I don’t think some sicko “planned to go trolling for vulnerable women, searched for a girl to kill that night, and place her on the farm.” It all just happened.
Blink…GREAT article!
I’m sure you had NO IDEA that so many people would MISUNDESTAND It! Wow!
Observer, thanks for the response. You seem to be very well-respected on BOC and your posts are always very intelligent, and seem to come from a position of knowledge and experience. I’m trying to decipher your response to me a bit, for the simple reason you omitted the part of my post pertaining to my feeling that the primary crime scene was somewhere in the woods near the “clearing”, and the entry point being the double gate north of where the majority believe to be the entry point at the lower gate. You included the part that stated “not getting tunnel vision pertaining to a hypothesis”. So are you telling me that you don’t agree that the crime occured there, and to not be a fool and try to make things fit my theory?
O/T to skyler: You and Lexi are in my prayers. We lost our little 6 pound Chihuahua in February a year ago during a particularly cold, wet, even snowy period (in Tucson!). She was gone for 8 days before we found her. She’d lost 2 pounds and a couple teeth, but she was alive!! We put up many signs, listed it on craigslist with a picture, offered a reward, and prayed like mad to St Anthony, finder of lost things. (I’m not Catholic, but I totally believe in St Anthony!!). We kept getting calls of sightings and spent several hours one night walking the neighborhood where she was last seen. She heard us calling her name and came running to us, doin’ her “happy dance.” My dogs are my fur-kids, so I know how precious Lexi is to you. Keep praying, and looking, and putting out her information, and hopefully you’ll be reunited!
Amanda850 – re: Da Jeep
(said:) “J2K – jeep…. Yes, I believe it is a red of the Cherokee type. I’ve seen that pic too.”
A8, I put that out there because that was the pictured Jeep (good call on Cherokee model) caught in the driveway – but did you notice that shot was from 2007? B may be aware of another “Jeep” via DMV records or some other current source, but no way was that his vehicle, now that I think about it (unless it has been handed down since then) – he would have been barely old enough to drive at the time (but old enough to have raped – twice), and probably serving a sentence of some sort.
B- ya check the DMV? Is this punk driving? Does he actually own a setta wheels?
Here is Blink ……………… X
Here is Blink’s fence…………X
No Room on this one
B
Phyl – re: O/T-B/O
While I appreciate the sentiment, my good man, such an appearance would be beneath me (and I’m not fond of falafel).
total amateur – re: Jeeps come in all shapes and colors…
ta, Check out my post to Amanda850; I’m not saying that if young Cheesy Threads has a Jeep it’s necessarily a brick-red 4-door – just noting that in a 2007 photo of his parents’ property on MT Road, such a Jeep is parked in the driveway.
Can anyone please answer: What is the significance of January 25- I tried to find an answer,on here to no avail. TIA
Hey J2K, I think we were all shrugging our shoulders at the same time “not that there’s anything wrong with that”
Chad, LOL I too have heard this from my son countless times : “Zimma don na”, Those words have the potential to infuriate or calm- depending on the situation Does anyone remember the SNL skit centered around these words?
Conservatives and Liberals have alot of common ground on BOC. We all want the laws against Sex offenders changed right?
Phyl, yeah, Blink can definitely take care of herself.
Sky, Puppy news?
Pale Rider, like your new name, such a big change from Volvo lover…J/k
Lots of very informative posts today guys. I wish I had more to offer in the way of serious commentary. Glad to know all of you have your thinking caps on…me, I have a cold and can’t seem to think straight. Carry on guys. Hoping for an arrest soon- 241
“I think one is older than the other, but both close to Morgans age.
B”
Just my opinion and another option but the older one got his younger family friend to clean up his mess thinking that the younger one just ain’t that bright. Not as bright as he! He’s practically a professional. The younger one puts her where he knows and he knows no more. Thinks though, he’s given the middle finger to Bass.
What date was this taken again? Would anyone be pingin’ on this part of Bass property?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n3lOIwuqBs
@1:45. a gruesome twosome. Can I say that? One looks happy to be out and the other, well, looks like he’s kinda down.
btw, there’s now a comment.
and O/T: No offense to Mountain Resistance Music but I’m goin’ back to LOG.
I would just like VSP to give me one thing this weekend. The timestamp on any video from JPJA that shows our “Shiny Girl”.
Can I say THAT? Please!
In response to a couple people’s belief that there is a lack of DNA evidence:
I too fear this because everyone knows DNA results are usually quicker than 5 months. But is it not true that forensic scientists can now reconstitute a DNA profile from degraded DNA by “regrowing” it- and that this is a much slower process?
O/T:
Mom3.0 – re: your RM video link from earlier -
[insert appropriate acronym for tear-inducing laughter here]
“You… are being shagged… by a rare parrot!”
And! the bird goes BOOM.
(oh dear lord that was funny…Great find, Momo!)
Re: DNA results
there’s no hurry if the bg Is aleady behind bars.
Fish- (or anybody) Who is that in the Utube video?
Phyl – BABY – I would rather HUG you!
KeeKee
“What the Hell did John just say” about what?
I am willing to tell you
I am wanting to tell you
I am waiting to tell you
Lets see, my last post was about a dog being rescued. they were talking about it on CNN. John Roberts posted a snippet of a video about it, and they did not know the owner) It was a little blond dog. It had been swimming (in water, Phyl) (I thought I might as well let Sky know, in some off chance it was her dog)
My last post befor that was about a plane crash near Charlottesville Va. yesterday. (I might not have been clear, but it was my hope that it crashed into a SO house and killed one of them) It reminded me of another plane crash a couple of years ago in Va. where the pilot was a land developer. (I was thinking and wondering out loud if this pilot was a land developer too)
Did I answer your question KeeKee?
Ragdoll says:
Both feet in my mouth. That’s got to be a record. My deepest apologies TA! Another lesson in humility.
Can I offer you a 14 gold medal decorated truth north hug??????
(((((((TA)))))))))
I can admit it. I am a putzel head.
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No worries, not like you could know! Seems like mostly women on this board, so wanted to let it be known there are men who care too! lol.
35.total amateur says:
March 5, 2010 at 12:38 am
Fish- (or anybody) Who is that in the Utube video?
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I think the dark haired one is Cheddar Jumpsuit? Thanks to someone else’s pointing out of his Family Watchdog pic, I think it might be- and I can only base that on the mouth. Looks alot different if that’s him with longer, darker hair. As for the other guy, I can only venture a guess- could use confirmation on both.
Well now it’s late and I’m talking to myself.
Just kidding.
Blink, can’t you moderate 24 hours a day?
http://www.holysmoke.org/fem/fem0126.htm
Skyler, I keep thinking about your pup, hoping for news of a reunion soon, and pup is safe, meanwhile. Maybe some little girl is begging right now, “please mom, can we keep him? He followed me home, I’m sure he’s a stray, pleeeaase?”
oops, Skyler, I should have said “she” not “he” in regards to your pups, sorry.
Texas Grandpa, I keep thinking about your excellent post. In a way, I feel sort of an awakening. Women are the majority, really? And yet, look at our laws. Look at the way we have to live, always on our guard. Have you ever watched birds? They seem so carefree as they flit about enjoying being alive, but then you realize, they are never relaxed. They never stop looking around them. They never let down their guard. That’s how we have to live.
Why is this not “the” women’s issue? I think the time has come!
Fish, I agree on your video. Total Amateur, that is taken at Anchorage old farmhouse where the daughter lives, in Dec 2009. Some think the one fellow is cheezy jumpsuit. I think it could be.??
J2K (regarding your 3/4 @1:19 AM post),
Full Gumby! Ouch! I’m not that limber anymore. . .and hate to see you tryna play “Twister” wit a mismark mat! Naw, jack-to-da-king, see I got dis ol 1994-’95 C & P Telephone book fo’ da ‘Noke. . . don’t aks me why, but yeah, Ro’Noke, true dat . . . an’em Harringtons be already livin’ where dey still at (same number too). So ain’t no way I kin see Jumpsuit Junior tryna hook up wit Classy Lassie onna back of Miz Applebaum class…” [No; Uncle! I can't keep this up.]
In Standard English, I can’t think Morgan was in C’ville long enough to be in elementary school with anyone local– unless that anyone later moved here from Roanoke. But dare I ask whether, unless Morgan had set her Facebook page to private, a potential BG “friend” could have targeted her with very specific information poached from her casual interactions with other “friends”? [This is an open question which may itself be naive; I've never joined Facebook and probably never will, so someone help me out, here!]
Really I’m not wed to the idea that Morgan had an intended rendezvous; just haven’t ruled it out; not enough info to say. I do believe that WHY she exited JPJ could speak materially to her state of mind and more, & might point to PsOI (inside the arena or out–or both). And I’m not sure that she’d have gotten into a vehicle with anyone, motivated only by her discomfort level(cold/wet/P’dOff); maybe a degree of familiarity gave her some level of comfort in that decision, which may have been very in-the-moment. In the end, of course you’re right to say that she met some “Wrong Dude, and it cost her her life”– but I believe that devil might be seen in details of what she’d done or said well before exiting JPJ.
duannahincville says:
March 4, 2010 at 2:57 pm
The gate that is in the pictures 43-50 might be easy to get in, but getting a body down the hill on the other side to place it where Morgan was found would be hard, especially in the dark. Why would you do that when you could drive all the way? I remember when I was younger going down in that bottom area to pick berries. It is really easy to get through there in a vehicle. I imagine trespassers who hunt might take their vehicles through there right up to where they hunt, and never be seen.
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duannahincville, you have spent time there on the farm?
Is it possible that the point is, there are all these obstacles to getting to the place that Morgan was placed from all the different possible directions, *except for one*? and only a very few would know of that one?
The area is so stunningly beautiful, I am just entranced by the photos. It’s so hard to understand rape and murder happening there. It seems so incongruous…
Fish- that performance was Dec. 14, 2009. Did you happen to notice the title of that video? It’s not the one that is usually referenced. For the locals (and I’m not one, but it got my attention) the title is Wallen’s Ridge. hmmm… makes me feel like playing Coincidence or Clue http://www.vadoc.virginia.gov/facilities/western/wallens-ridge/
total amateur – I’m not sure who that is in the video. I have read speculation that it is D upside down M err W but really M with young, local RSO. Hard to tell. I just took a screen grab and am going to play around with it to see if I can see anything interesting.
the_7-thanks for bio-dad’s residence confirmation.
J2K- re: RSO- I was always assuming the youngling was the local who went away for 3-5 years (juvie or boarding school) and then came back. The one who would know the area like the back of his hand, I guess there could be others in the area as well. I never even considered that he might not have grown up in the area. He’s the most obvious BG (obviously, but he could also look like a good guy if you’re going on looks) and he’s the easiest to implicate; yet he appears the least likely responsible (at this point in the investigation, IMO). And yes, I share your frustration trying to look up court records. Not even so much because he was a juvenile and it’s impossible, but because you have to be running Internet Explorer or NETSCAPE!!?? to see court records for some (but not all) of Virginia’s courts.
Now, that’s just poop. What about Firefox and Safari? And who uses Netscape anymore?
Skyler- sorry to address you right after my poop comment…I couldn’t come up with a smooth transition, but I’ve been meaning to tell you that I hope you find your dog. Didn’t you lose her in the beginning of all this or was that another pet or even possibly a different poster? I really hope she comes back. Did you take a sign to your vet’s office? One of my labs jumps our 6 foot fences to go down to the elementary school to play with the kids. I know that feeling when you realize she’s gone. I’ve been meaning to watch the LOG videos you reference, but I haven’t made it back through the posts. If it’s easy for you, can you link them here?
Jim M- I don’t want to try and change your opinion regarding who you believe you see in that youtube video I posted earlier in the week. I thought it was Morgan too, that’s why I passed it on. But something about it gnawed at me and it was the young woman’s profile. Call me crazy, but as I paused and played over and over again I came to realize that the bridge of the woman’s nose in that particular video was too sloped, slanted and severe to be Morgan’s. (I can’t believe that I know this) You would have to see a picture of Dee to see what I’m talking about. Her nose isn’t as “soft” looking as Morgan’s. It’s sharper. In addition, this woman (whom I believe to be Dee) can be seen in other videos during Metallica’s set in the exact same spot with the exact same guy in an olive green collared shirt.
One thing to consider, however, regarding this video. On insessions (where I linked the video from) there were a few statements regarding the men standing around this young woman. Some thought one of them looked like our young RSO, but w/glasses. I can’t say for sure myself, but since there’s speculation that: 1) he was w/Morgan on Oct. 17 and 2) he might be in the Here’s to the Long Haul video maybe someone would like to look at these two videos w/this in mind. In addition, there was a point in time based on videos that they were not with Dee for a period of time. Could be as simple as they went to get food/drink or to smoke, IDK.
And speaking of dudes in black whoever they are (and then I’ll shut up).To those who don’t think that someone would spend money on a concert only to leave after seeing the opening set, I disagree. I have left a Neil Young concert because my seats were horrible and I was bored. (Blasphemous, I know.) In addition, I have purchased tickets to a concert and decided not to go at the last minute because, “I didn’t feel like it.” Actually I was annoyed at how mainstream this particular band had become and I didn’t want to share the experience with a bunch of 15 year olds whose only exposure to said band was through popular radio. (I know, I know, it was petty and snooty, but I was young (in my 20′s); which is exactly my point. I didn’t care about the money. So I personally don’t find it hard to believe that someone would pay top dollar for Metallica tickets only to leave before they even take the stage.
Seeing some song lyrics on here and the names of the posters “Pale Rider” and “John” reminded me (in a good way!) of a very appropriate song with a warning that I would like to direct to the bad guy/guys: “God’s Gonna Cut You Down” – the brilliant Johnny Cash version with that amazing music video:
You can run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Sooner or later God’ll cut you down
Sooner or later God’ll cut you down
Go tell that long-tongue liar
Go and tell that MIDNIGHT RIDER (my note: the opposite of Pale Rider)
Tell the rambler, the gambler, the back-biter
Tell ‘em that God’s gonna cut ‘em down
Well my goodness gracious, let me tell you the news
My head’s been wet with the midnight dew
I’ve been down on bended knee
Talkin’ to the man from Galilee
He spoke to me in a voice so sweet
I thought I heard the shuffle of the angels’ feet
He called my name and my heart stood still
When he said, “JOHN, go do My will!”
Well you may throw your rock and hide your hand
Workin’ in the dark against your fellow man
But as sure as God made black and white
WHAT’S DOWN IN THE DARK WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE LIGHT
You can run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Sooner or later God’ll cut you down
Sooner or later God’ll cut you down
Oh and Skyler, I am sending prayers and wishes as far as I can, from all the way over here, that your baby dog has come home already, safe and sound. Our “baby” is a Dachshund named Clara-Bella that is dropped off at my parents before work every day so they can babysit her until we finish work, when we pick her up again! She has never been alone for a minute in her whole life! So I understand how distraught you must be. I do believe you can tell a lot about a person by the way they treat animals, and judging by the compassion and concern shown by the posters here for human life and justice, I am sure that everyone here just loves their animals too. Just as I am also sure that the bad guy has been cruel to animals in his life.
Re: dna, remember that it’s been 5 mos since she went missing, but only like a month since she’s been found…
Thought I would move this to this thread, too. With so much intellience, so much heart, so much dedication, this will be solved.
Observer, thanks for the title-head cheerleader works for me.
The collective energy here is really amazing and it is clear no stone will be left unturned, no path unsearched, no RSO left unscrutinized, no theory unvetted, and our collective wish will not be ignored, so:
Go, Blinkers, Go
Show What You Know
Go, Blinkers, Go
Reach that final goal
J4M! J4M! J4M!!!
The cheering squad is doing well, but still accepting applications. Males being sought to help with the lifts