Morgan Harrington Murder: Why Anchorage Farm?
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Charlottesville, VA– Morgan Harrington, 20 year old Virginia Tech Student found murdered on Anchorage Farm January 26 2010, was put there for a reason.
Image of Original Work By Nancy Bass
It was clear from Lt. Joe Rader’s press conference on February 4 that the location of Morgan’s remains is critical to the investigation, and to the identity of the individuals responsible.
Why Anchorage Farm?
David and Nancy Bass, owners of Anchorage Farm and the residential dwellings therein, own a boatload of land.
B O A T L O A D.
Mr. Bass, is also a longstanding member of the Albemarle County Zoning Appeals Board. In fact, he is the Chairman of the ACZAB since 2007, where he preceded this position at the Vice Chair since 2000.
Between 2005 and 2008, let’s agree there is a “run” on raw land in Albemarle County VA, in particular.
Like many families owning large tracts of land, there is always the dilemma of staying ahead of the zoning curve or preserving their land while paying taxes only on the residence.
Anchorage Farm, like almost 90% of surrounding vacant land, was registered in the Agricultural and Forrestal preservation program.
Location, Location, Location
The forced sale of Biscuit Run due to David Breeden’s original will was a disaster to its purchasers including Hometown crooner Dave Matthews.
A $46 Million dollar purchase from the Breeden family was recently bailed out by VDOT for under $10 Million.
There are lukewarm results to Blandemar Farms in its infancy.
The fresh sale of the first-of-its-kind development marrying land preservation and *ethereal* elite* estates* known as Bundoran Farms, Bass withdraws his 654 acre contribution to the Hardware District renewal.
Mr. and Mrs. Bass re-parceled and re-deeded their land in 2007. I have studied this tract closely; there is no doubt in my mind this land was being prepped for development with exactly the right easements for “right of way” purposes in place.
Nearly every other landowner was now in the 10 year plan with the possibility of not just one, but two significant luxury development projects on the horizon while their land is restricted from development of a “more intense use.”
Translation:
Holy Sh*t, my land could be “not subject to further subdivision” and worth half of what it is now in 10 years. Gulp.
Morgan’s remains were found in parcel 41a.
Which would coincide with the 4 and 1 parts of her families creed o; I choose to take comfort in that.
Keeping up with the Jonesbrights
As an example, let’s use the adjacent property tracts across Red Hill.
The Howell, Waybright, Napier and Hager Families own the largest preserved adjacent trac on Monacan, which from a plot perspective, you might argue is land-locked due to Mr. Bass ‘s re-zoning.
Now, before I get 300 posts asking if I am suggesting Morgan Harrington was murdered out of revenge of a land dispute; of course not.
I am simply saying it is possible that part of the motive of the persons responsible for Morgan’s death to place her on exactly the parcel she was, may have been a combination of comfort AND perceived payback.
I have personally worked with developers on a similar project and I have seen a man have his land value cut in half by not completing the planning process prior to new zoning amendments AFTER granting easements through it. Utter Nightmare.
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oops, “intelligence” (obviously not on my part!)
Hello everyone…it’s been awhile since I’ve posted. Appreciate all the insight, news, and comic relief posts that are often needed. There was a great segment on NPRadio yesterday; it pertains to sexual predators on campuses…a must read/hear. I hope this link works
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124073905e
Justic for Morgan and Peace to all.
well, well…pardon me for my tmi moment last night
medicinal vodka did ease my back pain, but resulted in blogging under the influence…ick…i am so obviously a tremendous lightweight. still feel a little fuzzy as i read through all the posts from last night.
john, i still am not quite sure what you said, and i will reread.
Total Amateur said “But is it not true that forensic scientists can now reconstitute a DNA profile from degraded DNA by “regrowing” it- and that this is a much slower process?”
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I was thinking that, too, and Gil said as much:
“According to the parents, officials are performing toxicology and DNA tests.
‘You have to reconstitute them to then do your chemical assays on,’ Gil Harrington, Morgan’s mother, said.”
Source: http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/state_regional/article/parents_say_dna_tests_on_morgan_harringtons_remains_could_take_months/82462/
Observer’s 3/4 at 10:58 does not mention this possibility, so I was doubting myself and wondering whether that technology was available to MEs yet, but I don’t doubt Gil.
Observer, do you hold out hope for this technology?
TO: total amateur: Apologies that my earlier response omitted the part of your post pertaining to your feeling that the primary crime scene was somewhere in the woods near the “clearing”. (I sometimes find that, in my mind at least, I’m trying to juggle multiple responses to different posts–and multi-tasking has never been my best event. [I have zero clue how B does it; zero.] That, and my age shows repeatedly; witness the multiple typos, syntax errors, etc. in my posts:-)
Like you, I believe the primary crime scene was somewhere in those woods adjacent to the clearing where Morgan’s remains were found. [Note: Some months ago I believed the Morgan may have been disabled in the RV lot, in a vehicle, shortly after having accepted a ride from the BG while she was on the Copeley Rd. bridge. I’ve since re-considered that position.]
My mind’s eye is still on the lower gate as the entry point.
The reason I referenced your (very apt) comment about “not getting tunnel vision pertaining to a hypothesis” was an admonition/reminder to myself (not to you) –to “not be a food and try to make things fit my theory”. This is something I have to continually be cognizant of, as I am apt to lapse into that which is anathema to any successful investigation. I have witnessed myself doing it here, in observation of Morgan’s case, and appreciated your wise counsel (even if not intended for others) in that regard. So no, my reference was not directed back to you, but to “the (wo)man in the mirror”, as it were. [BTW: I find your posts and observations astute, insightful, and often spot-on--at least IMHO. Something tells me you are far more than a mere "total amateur":))]
Momof3: Please feel better soon (I highly recommend a hot toddy); there are lots of nasty bugs, sinusitis, and head colds going around these days. [Am trying to avoid them at all costs because, in less than a month, I will be headed out of the country for two weeks on vacation and do not want to have my plans take a back seat to a nuisance bug. And how desperately do I want Morgan’s BG to be arrested and brought to light prior to my departure, as I will be w/o internet, cell, and general media access for the better part of that two-week period.]
Observer touches on a very important thought that I have had difficulty imparting to others in explaining investigative analysis-
From a critical thinking perspective, the appropriate way to investigate a case is to NOT form your conclusion until all your confirmed evidence leads you there. It is often the mistake of analysts and investigators to form a conclusion prematurely and their work reflects the fact that they end up confirming and researching only that which supports it. It is like being on the scene, forming your hypothesis, then tasking your team to support it.
Investigative analysis and critical thinking paths are to be founded by the exclusionary rule.
“If it is not out, it’s in” as it were-
This can drastically extend the investigative cycle, it is frustrating and easier said then done the more experienced the investigator, but is imperative to support a successful prosecution, which ultimately once a victim is found, is the singular goal.
I believe VSP is doing their job in this jurisdiction on par, and I believe an arrest (s) is/are imminent.
B
I don’t think the original crime scene was outdoors. It was cold and raining. The ground was wet and it was a new moon and very dark. I am thinking she got in an RV parked in the RV lot at JPJ. IDK, just my $0.02.
KeeKee
Let me see…..A Karma plane crashed into a house near Charlottesville the other day. I was putting my hopeful cheese on it being a SO’s house, and that he would look like swiss cheese. I heart you.
thank you blink!
B says: “If it is not out, it’s in” as it were-”
I know that it would take years of schooling to play catch up with you and FairyGodmother O, but am I allowed to believe that everyone that had come into contact with Morgan Harrington that night of
October 17, 2009, is still under the umbrella?
Everyone!?!!
and….
“I believe VSP is doing their job in this jurisdiction on par, and I believe an arrest (s) is/are imminent.”
Imminent = Without Delay as in Today?
gifter3 and Total:
I am almost to the conclusion that the two we see in the Long Haul Video are somehow related. Or maybe they are just those types of friends that are closer than family. I have two kids that are not my nephews but they say I’m “Auntie Fish”, just because are families are so close.
It’s is just a thought of mine. Most likely nothing to do with anything at all. I’m stupidly thinkin’ outloud. Just trying to find a conclusion to a horrific crime.
The power of a prayer to the VSP!
To Mom3.0:
Yes, I agree that the HBB in the video may well have been sweet Morgan.
I wonder if she could have hit her chin during the head banging and that’s how she got cut. The head banging appeared pretty violent, but I guess that’s the point.
I know this doesn’t mesh with the friend’s story, because they never mentioned the cut.
Sorry if I am posting in the wrong place, but not sure if folks are checking back on the old thread or not.
fish says: “gotta run to cville today. anybody need anything?”
boc nation says: “we”ll take a couple of arrests, a super-sized cheese, and a large peace of mind, thank you.”
Following B’s “if it’s not out, it’s in,” along with the possible 1/25 re-set,
I remain interested in the house fire.
And before anyone attacks me, as others have been attacked for wanting to explore its possible connection, I should clarify that I am *not* pointing fingers at the girls who lived there.
We are on the same page.
B
I have been having MAJOR pc issues over the last few days so haven;t got to read and/or post much.
What I have read seems to indicate hints of movement in the case and an arrest being “just around the corner” so to speak.
Is this correct? Is an arrest really close to happening, like really soon (I hope)?
47.E in SA says:
March 5, 2010 at 5:58 am
Seeing some song lyrics on here and the names of the posters “Pale Rider” and “John” reminded me (in a good way!) of a very appropriate song with a warning that I would like to direct to the bad guy/guys: “God’s Gonna Cut You Down” – the brilliant Johnny Cash version with that amazing music video
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E in SA! What a great song! Now I have to get the CD. Thanks for the prompt.
Sky, hope you find your pup soon.
All, keep up the good work.
observer -
i enjoy reading your posts (especially the shorter ones) and marvel at your use of the written word. it is a pleasure to read enlightening, educational, and entertaining conversations whipping back and forth between blinksters as blink directs traffic in the middle of the road. it would be such a marvelous thing to see us all in one large meeting room! this surely will stand the test of time as a forum for bettering the world. it’s unlikely those of us on this unique site would have ever met in real life…and i am so grateful to be included and welcomed.
it does my heart good to see fellow blinksters defend others’ words, or serve as translator for some who may muddy their words (guilty), and hold themselves to a higher standard than those i have seen on other internet forum sites. really, there is not much wasted space on this site…if any…ok, my compulsive disclosure from last night qualifies but if it serves as comic relief, well….alrighty then. you should have seen what blink so sweetly held back. thank you, my friend.
gil’s words this morning are wonderful and spot on as usual. she writes of our society’s fear of speaking openly about death. wow, what a perceptive woman she is. it is indeed cruel to stifle anyone mourning the death of a loved one by only allowing platitudes. to speak in whispers about death, especially murder, is to sweep it under the rug in our communities. we are helping give voice. together, we are cheering for the harrington family and their grace under horrific circumstances, but we are noisily wading through the mire of the criminals’ footsteps as we follow their sick path of destruction.
here’s a giant virtual hug from me to you!!!
What can we do to keep sex offenders off the streets and our kids and women safe?
Seriously, how can we change these laws? Do we start a petition? What do we do? Because we, as a public, need to do something to change these laws. I just don’t how to get the ball rolling?
The judicial system is very broken in this regard, allowing these monsters back out on the street to rape or kill again, even after PHYCIATRISTS tell people that this is exactly what they will do.
These people should loose the freedom to be amongst the public forever once committing and act like this. The people they offended didn’t have any rights when the assulted them, did they? They didn’t have the right to say no or the right to live, so why should these monsters have any rights? The people whose rights should be protected are the innocent children/people that are in danger by monsters like this. Once they are caught, they need to be locked up and the key thrown away. No room in the jails they say? Well then, what’s more important – VIOLENT offenders and non-violent offenders. The violent offenders who will rape and kill should be top priority because letting them out puts everybody’s life at risk.
Where do we start to make change?
Gil Harrington’s thoughts.
March 5, 2010
I honestly do not understand the death avoidance in our society. Some folks, even ones who know me well, can barely make eye contact or mumble out a few words now that I have this new unasked for, unwanted role as mother to a murdered girl.
Open dialogue about death is rare. We utilize euphemistic platitudes to try to soften the reality. I prefer plain speaking with clear words. Morgan has not “passed on” or “been called to heaven” she was murdered and is DEAD. I don’t like that fact one bit, but I can acclimate to the harsh reality over time. If folks only allow me the platitudes that they feel comfortable with, I will never learn to accommodate this loss and will be left forever floundering in a quagmire of well intentioned fluff.
It flabbergasts me that we watch graphic even clinical scenarios on TV, but any practical talk of death is inconceivable, taboo!
The truth is, death is really ok, it can even be heart wrenchingly beautiful. Witnessing death strips us of pretense and forces us to consider our most fundamental core beliefs. That frank contemplation of death is necessary, even healthy, for each of us to do. Coming to terms with the rough spots is where you glean the bedrock pieces of your faith. Every single one of us will have at least one up close and personal experience with death. It is pivotal to come to some acceptance and understanding of that process.
2 4 1
Have been reading daily and I appreciate all the hard work that goes on here. I do have one question though and am thinking that I may have missed something. Seems like the general consensus is that cheesy jumpsuit guy is involved. He was mentioned early on along with many others but where did the evidence turn to make him the primary poi? Thanks in advance.
Oh Gil Harrington, how I wish that we could look in your eyes and talk about it! In my house, my husband won’t allow those soft euphemisms, even with our children. He cannot bear them, and hearing you helps me appreciate his perspective all the more.
Would that those around you—-who want to understand how best to help, I am certain—-could muster the courage to speak your language with you. They would learn so much in the end. Someday, maybe, they will. Meantime, seek the people who can speak your way.
I am glad you have your trip coming up. Godspeed and tons of love from everyone here.
Judi
Kudos to your post! The war on women and children in this country has to stop. Where does this really bad societal undercurrent come in that suggests had a woman not been dressed as she had, had she not been at the club, etc. these kinds of crimes wouldn’t have happened. Women should be able to go out and enjoy things in the world – Morgan should have been able to do this – without fear of being abducted, raped or murdered!
There has been no known instance ever in the world of any sexual predator being cured. These guys are simply hardwired to do what they do. It is never a question of if they will re-offend, it’s only a question of when.
39.keekee says:
March 4, 2010 at 6:40 pm
cocky little shiza
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yeah, cocky little engelshise!!!!!
20.Josie says:
March 4, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Oh Palerider (aka bevolovr), I missed your pale horse post above. Coincidentally, the song ‘In The Air Tongight’ was playing on the radio at the same time I read it. Chills…
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Gulp, wow, yeah….
Re Gil Harrington’s thoughts
I hope a very close friend, or friends are going to Africa with Gil, and stay by her side most of the time.
50.osu says:
March 4, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Palerider, your info on Antisocial Personality Disorder really hit home.
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Unfortunately, I too have some mental illnes experience with my mom. It can be devastating to a family. When she was diagnosed it sounded so banal, but her symptoms were very scary. I started researching and discovered how debilitating and terrifying this disease can be.
I understand your statement about how not all folks have equal symptoms. Very true; they can range from mild depression to dangerous psychotic episodes.
Thanks for sharing.
Morning all,
Gil continues to amaze me. A lesser person (like me) would probably have crumbled under this situation … daughter – dead. I cannot even go there.
My only “new” thought for today is that when Gil writes EVIL it reminds me of someone’s first name: E***. Also made me think of Blink’s use of alliteration in the above article: *ethereal* elite* estates*. E.
Just my random thoughts.
Still waiting, hoping and praying for an arrest.
Goodnmad — This is my scared monkeys name. Some of you might know me from over there. I’m usually good and mad.
Pale Rider: LOVED your post(s). Beautiful posts. I’m cool with the name change. O/T Your post Took me back to the great Clint Eastwood movies, (1984) in particular, Pale Rider. I visualized Clint, the preacher, riding into town on his horse.
I am just waiting for Gene Hackman to show up on this site. Wouldn’t that be a deal in the saloon? Heh?
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Thanks, darlin’. Yep I chose it based on that character, one of my fave movies. I’m a cowgirl @ heart, believe in “Old West, Old Testament” justice….I’m willing to forgive, even right up till the time you swingin from the gallows.
Oh, maybe I’m not as opposed to public hangings as I thought, Texas Grandfather!!
At first I was convinced the house fire early a.m. in NG was accidental and coincidental. Like Acho, I’m not pointing fingers at the young ladies living there. I have moved my cheese to a smoky ‘not so sharp’ cheddar.
Blink and Acho, I’m on that page with you.
You know, I don’t even care about who thinks I’m crazy or doesn’t like my posts. That’s not why I’m here. I’m here to see a killer(s) found and taken out of society and to pay for what they have done. I will not rest or stop until J4M is served. And you know what else, I would say that the rest here feel the same. BOC is the voice of the victim and will leave no stone unturned. I can’t say how much I admire Blink and respect her for her neverending dedication. Blink, I am honored to be here.
There’s a lot of great posts to read this morning. So many that I won’t even try to name names. I appreciate everyone who spends their time researching and posting. I learn so much from you. We cover a lot of different aspects, all because of our love and compassion for Morgan and other victims of horrendous crimes committed against them. We, the public are outraged because these crimes are committed against us all. Great work everyone! And again, thanks is not enough.
Today is one of those days, and I am angry! Angry!!!
Be assured, worthless piece of sh*t, your sin will find you out!!!
Justice for Morgan! Love and unending support to her family!!!
Just Desserts – You make a great point. “…maybe a degree of familiarity gave her some level of comfort in that decision, which may have been very in-the-moment.”
Standing outside, alone, cold, a casual acquaintance would be rather inviting. Someone who may have even known her name, knew who she was, maybe a little creepy in a standard social setting, but on THAT night, in those circumstances….. Add alcohol, offers a false sense of security and the rest is tragic.
23.gifter3 says:
March 4, 2010 at 11:44 pm
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Thx, Gifter3.
WOW, great post. I too haven’t ruled out 2 fires and a sheriff.
Mom, LOL, volvolover!!! Haha, u veddy funny! that’s BEVOLOVR, you know U of Tx longhorns?? Hook em”!!
E in SA – yep, another great and fitting song!!
Sky, words on Lexy??
Chad, how’s your friend’ bro?
Observer, I am humbled by your kind words- Thank you. For the record, I truly am a total amateur, and have no LE background. I am merely a student here on BOC, and am trying to learn something new every day. I honestly don’t mind being told I’m wrong, in fact I love to learn and love to debate even more. I have always had a keen interest in forensics, investigation, and psychology. Sometimes I feel like I may have missed my calling in one of those fields.
I think Blink made good points in her response as well. I soak up any insight into formal training, or from people who have experience. I can guarantee that when this case is over, I will be doing alot of reading on investigative techniques and criminal psychology.
I strongly agree that trying to make facts and evidence fit a certain hyothesis is a huge mistake. I also believe that the exclusionary rules are critical. If you can’t rule it out 100%, it’s still in play. My biggest problem with this case is that there are so few confirmed facts or evidence, so many conflicting witnesses, rumors, etc., that it’s difficult to exclude ANYTHING. So, you are almost forced to base thoughts on hypothesis. I find myself trying to prove a hypothesis wrong, more often than proving it right.
I have great respect for all the minds on this site. I have learned alot- not only about criminal investigation- but also about the fact that there are so many people out there who want criminals off the streets. It has helped to reedem my faith in the human race to learn that there are so many people willing to put their heart, mind, time, and energy into finding justice for a young girl and a family that they have never met, nor ever will. Keep up the great work.
Finally- I’d like to add that I have no idea how Blink keeps up with all this either, it’s impressive to say the least. I can barely keep up with THIS case. Also, I’d like to take this opportunity to give praise to her team, they deserve it too, I’m sure.
John, my dear, thanks for the clarification. There are just so many possibilities.
I like GnM’s cure for VSO’s and murderers.
Observer, I’m always interested in reading your posts. Thank you for taking the time here. I so wish
You could go into detail about Bundy, but I understand why you can’t. Please write a book, if you haven’t already!!
My stepfather’s nephew actually defended Bundy at one time (AGGH!), but his other nephew successfully prosecuted Richard Cottingham (Whew!) The strange connection was that at one time my parking space was actually the spot where Cottingham had dumped one of his victims. I didn’t realize the connection to his case or even who the heck he was until my Stepfather told me the story of his prosecution and then I read a book on it. What a shocker! I have since married and moved.
Just 1 more post for today, I promise (maybe). A question. Does anyone know if there’s an old chimney on AF, like from an old house no longer standing?
Gil is amazing. BG, you picked the wrong Mom and Dad to mess with. Tik Tok.
Skyler, I hope your puppy is home soon.
http://www.missingpet.net/advice/index.html
Good morning, all — only have a minute’s break from work.
Thank you thank you thank you, all for your prayers and concerns over my lost girl — No. She is not back. Animal Control in my county is thru the Sheriff’s Office. I have posted there, and they’re keeping an eye out. I did not think to call a vet’s office — I used the city vet and not the local county vet. I literally live 15 miles from “civilization” as my son calls it. It is very rural — and very beautiful — Last night I put up signs at the three street intersections after work — and I think I scared some poor female child half to death as this strange woman — with a hammer in her hand — said: I lost my dog, have you seen it ? She ran into her house — good on her. (I had the hammer to put up the signs) — there are two horses in the pasture up the road, and on my way back home, they were at the fence and I kinda leaned on the paint horse, which is my favorite, trying to telecommute: have you seen my dog? And found myself walking the block home in the pitch dark of night — and thought: this is the exact scenario we’ve talked about so much here — except I did have hammer in hand !
I think — I’m hoping, so she’s safe and warm — that someone has her, as well. She chewed the end of her collar off that had her tags, which are on the top of my desk, but she still has on her bright pink collar, so they gotta know she belongs to someone — plus, her fur has not fully grown back in from where she was spayed – all signs she is someone’s family member.
I have listed her as “stolen” status because she is a registered black and white border collie (thanks, John, for thinking that may be her on CNN — no. Blink, my son has pix of her on his phone, and he’s coming tomorrow) — but I told the Sheriff’s office I just want her returned unless someone really stole her. I have posted on Craig’s list and put an ad in the community newspaper which comes out on Wednesdays. There is a reward. And yes, that was me, who list my other BC the night before we moved, and then my cat, and now this dog. I swear, I am a responsible pet owner. Lexi’s BF, the infamous HoundDog, came around last night looking for her — dogs run free here, because it’s so small and rural — My son is coming tomorrow and we’re going to go further searching — it’s too far for me to walk and he has the car —
But all this brings it home to me the pure hell the Harringtons — and all loved ones of missing persons — go thru — mine is a dog, whom I love, but she is not a human being. I am seriously considering starting a non-prof w/ the specific goal to change the SO rules starting in Va., and hopefully branching out into every state. I’ve lost many-a-night’s sleep thinking if I had only stayed straight on Copeley, I might have seen her walking toward the bridge or if I’d been a few mins. later, I would have picked her up on that bridge or stopped at least — but I can “if only” for the rest of my life and it will not change anything — My child is now grown, and I am only responsible for myself each day. I am at the point in my life where I have time to devote to this project — I would love for it to evolve into as part of PE class, all students — boys and girls — are taught at least basic self defense — and self defense does not have to be only physical — it can mean not putting yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time —
I do not know how Morgan died. The only thing I do know is: she didn’t walk out of JPJ and end up dead on AF by herself.
Please don’t take this personally, Observer, but I wish the Harringtons would bring a civil suit against JPJ, the reason being: JPJ will hire the best lawyers there are and engage in all sorts of research and may be privy to information and witnesses that LE is not to prove they had no part in Morgan’s murder — BG(s) are solely responsible, and this is why.
Again, thanks to everyone for your support on Lexi’s return — Mosaic, I laughed at the people feeding your dog Mac and Cheese — Word Girl is not the only gourmet on this board — I often prepare M&C out of the familiar blue box and divide it half and half w/ Ms. Lexi for our dinner — it is one of her favorites. If whoever has her would just release her, I know she’d come running home.
May this be the day of Lexi’s return and absolute justice for Morgan.
PS: If you need a lift to your day, click on the comments under Blink’s video — : )
kjmcbrien – re: *suspect speculation*
(kjm asked:) “Seems like the general consensus is that cheesy jumpsuit guy is involved. He was mentioned early on along with many others but where did the evidence turn to make him the primary poi?”
Evidence does not make someone a POI; it makes them a suspect. Obviously, there are no suspects the public is aware of yet, as we’d see him/them in handcuffs on the news. CheeseDoodle is getting a lot of attention because – I’ve noted this several times now – Morgan’s body was found less than 2 minutes from his house, and his age/assault record match many people’s perp profile for this case.
But, I should note that posters here are not privy to actual “evidence” – and if they are, they know better than to post it. The theory’s you’re reading and the “concensus” you’re detecting is detail-oriented guesswork based on what we *do* know or have found out on our own – very acute deductions in some instances – as well as off-site, independent (mostly online) research, except for our intrepid field photographers, who have taken shots of AF, BF and the surrounding entranceways and brought them here.
20.kjmcbrien says:
March 5, 2010 at 10:34 am
Have been reading daily and I appreciate all the hard work that goes on here. I do have one question though and am thinking that I may have missed something. Seems like the general consensus is that cheesy jumpsuit guy is involved. He was mentioned early on along with many others but where did the evidence turn to make him the primary poi? Thanks in advance.
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I think this is a fair and overdue question, But I don’t know if you’ll actually get an answer for it. IMO only, the one person on BOC who possibly could answer it, is probably not at liberty to say at this time.
From my own standpoint, I can only have suspicion of this person due to criminal history, proximity to the body, and age. I would say that posters have not exactly been “guided away” from this direction. Hence, the current “general consensus”.
I have yet to read ANYWHERE of his whereabouts that night. Not even a rumor. I actually asked a while back if he was known to be at or around JPJ arena on Oct 17, but no one responded. No evidence or statement has been released by LE pertaining to this individual, as far as I know. In fairness, I have never heard one solid statement connecting him to Morgan whatsoever. Again, not even a rumor. Hopefully, we’ll have an answer to this question- and many others- very soon.
total amateur ,thanks(for you know what) ,and for responding to the issue raised about dna,strengthening the dna for readability ,and acho,i was hoping for a third option.and keekee came up with a fourth: maybe there is dna but unsub 1 is saying its consensual.
14.acho says:
March 5, 2010 at 9:56 am
Following B’s “if it’s not out, it’s in,” along with the possible 1/25 re-set,
I remain interested in the house fire.
And before anyone attacks me, as others have been attacked for wanting to explore its possible connection, I should clarify that I am *not* pointing fingers at the girls who lived there.
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We are on the same page.
B
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Thoughts behind possible connection other than timing?
Just-2da-Dez – re: school-connection Twister
[Yo yo, JD - dat wuz sum reel fly slootin' u did, Homes! Thoze li'l peeps'a bin 5-yr-ol shorties bak den, if the H's wuz in the da 'Noke in '94. Da verdie be: No schoolie B's here.]
*ahem* Just Desserts, you also noted:
“… unless Morgan had set her Facebook page to private, a potential BG ‘friend’ could have targeted her with very specific information poached from her casual interactions with other ‘friends’”?
Except for the fortuitously timed FB “glitch” that temporarily changed privacy settings, most people on Facebook have it set so only their “Friends” can see their personal info and exchanges, posts to other friends, etc. (granted, they could have hundreds of friends, but usually know each one in some way, or have a reason for accepting their “friendship”).
It seems improbable that a stranger who saw MH online was either able to connect with her for a pre-arranged, consensual meet-up outside the show (undetected), or decided to target her – and was actually successful in attracting, drawing out, and separating her from the concert and her friends… in a total vaccuum. (JMO)
Word?
but you know, actually keekee,i would hope if unsub 1 is claiming consensual sex , dude would be arrested anyway. and if rso emh is the unsub 1 claiming to have been with her that night but dropping her off somewhere ,i am sorry this person would be a poi, a suspect, and why can not the last person to say he was with her be named??? i finally figured out what’s wrong with this case “ethereal elite”, jimmy hataway was the last person to see tracy ocasio,publically named and former, similar victim springs immediately forward.why are these men being protected?cuz they might become victims of rumors,grow up, i have a feeling this is the root cause. who was that mentioned that d.cassagne lawyers did an amazing job protecting him,hell to the yea,we don’t who the lawyer is ,wow,how fast did it come together, the conspiracy to keep his name out of it? i dont get the not naming ,why is everyone going along with it, even the press.why cant unsub 1 be named?seems to read between the lines that everyone who knows about him knows he’s lying and is the one .i dont remember a case with this much secrecy ,doesnt seem like its working,i hope an arrest is made soon.
Another equation that possibly makes Blink’s most recent article even more relevant to the case:
land = money
money = social standing
money + social standing = lawyers
lawyers + social standing = LE treading carefully and being tight-lipped while getting their proverbial “ducks in a row” before proceeding
As for the POI with the most cheese … my thoughts about Mr. Cheesy Drawers are based mostly on:
1. His criminal record — past behavior often reliably predicts future behavior. His past behavior could very well be the “ladder rungs” if you will leading up to murder. (I am reminded of the Harringtons saying this was not the BG’s first offense.)
2. Here we have a violent sex offender; here we have a violent sex crime (we believe); here we have a body found, well not quite in his “backyard,” but very close.
3. Just my own gut feeling. Look into those eyes. I tell you something is missing. A soul perhaps?
So, as for him being a “very interesting person” in regard to this case, yes he is. As for myself having any evidence or knowing any inside info, I don’t. But I trust LE to take care of business.
As for me having any sympathy for the “young man” being discussed, well, he opened himself up to this kind of scrutiny … he is a violent rapist. That I will put forth as fact.
Observer, I enjoy reading your posts, no matter the length. Thanks for the get well wishes. I hope you remain in good health and your travels are well worth the trip. Be safe.
kjmcbrien, total’s summation was very well stated. I would only like to add- I have not ruled anyone out- I don’t believe you should see him as more than a possible POI- go back and read the threads- much information to be gleemed.
Pale Rider, Hi, I had no clue what your handle meant,(thanks for educating me) but when ever I read it I saw it as “volvo”
J2k, I thought you would get a kick out of that clip.
wantohelp,
thanks for letting me know your opinion of the HBB. I agree that it doesn’t fit with what the friend’s said. But if they are the group behind the drum kit, they didn’t seem too into the whole scene. Quite oblivious IMO- Maybe they didn’t realize she was even gone- until later? All speculation of course.
The fire-
I too have not ruled out the fire connection to the BG or guys. There have been several fires ruled as arson in the larger area.It calls to mind, for me, that often times these “sicknesses” reside in the same person. They can not control their urges. Perhaps the BG uses fires as a substitute to fill the void until he can participate in something more his style…..
My husband wonders what the hell is so funny on a website dedicated to helping victims of crime and their families. If he only knew… He keeps hearing me howl with laughter and thinks I must be insane by now.
Skyler said: “Last night I put up signs at the three street intersections after work — and I think I scared some poor female child half to death as this strange woman — with a hammer in her hand — said: I lost my dog, have you seen it ? She ran into her house — good on her. (I had the hammer to put up the signs) —”
Susanm,
Chad applaudes and claps! Thank you for that post. You took the words right out of my mouth, and what I have been thinking, amonst other questions circling around in my mind. But, I will continue to have faith and believe in what Blink is saying, that LE is on par.
Pale Rider: LOVE your posts. Thanks for asking about my friends brother. He has survived amazing odds.,not take away at all from Morgan, and the brainstorming in this case, but so many of you have asked and sent prayer their way. Thank you all.
He has been since transferred out of the hospital to a rehab facility. He is breathing on his own and has a trachea. Lisa says that he is now able to remember the parts of shooting, and they are very concerned about the psychological trauma, and that it could interfere with his recovery. If I may share just a little of his blog, as this can better give you a detailed assessment of his recovery from this horrible crime.
This is a portion of Joe Jeahy’s blog: written by my friend Lisa, his sister.
Feb. 25 5:30 Lisa
Dear Family and Friends,
Joe is making miraculous progress! I’m not sure where to start.
He wrote a lot more today, and most importantly he was speaking today. The respiratory therapist plugged his trach opening, told him to take a deep breath and then he was able to communicate with us, even with his jaw being wired shut.
Questions and Joe’s Answers:
1. What is your first name?
Joe
2. What is your last name?
Leahy
3. What year is it?
2010
4. Where do you teach?
U. of Maryland (where he got his Ph.D)
Then he said: Univ of Alabama in Huntsville
Then he started to talk without waiting for a question. He had his own agenda!
He asked about taking a shower
He was asking Ginny about bringing him his lessons and activities
(earlier in the day when we weren’t in the room, he told the nurse that he needed to get his rest because he needed to get up early to give a test on Tuesday)
He said he had 2 boys and then Ginny told him that his parents were at the house taking care of Stephen and Keith, incase he was worried about them. After learning about the folks being at the home, he said “Good, follow the rules” That cracked us up! We were both laughing and crying at the same time. We’ve had so many emotions during these last two weeks!
We are in a whirlwind right now, due to Joe’s unexpected quick rate of progress, and we are needing to make many decisions and hold many meetings to plan for the transition to The Shepherd Center in Atlanta, Georgia. Given that, Ginny has asked that no one visit tomorrow (Friday) so we can catch our breath and plan for this move.
Love to all,
Praise God!
Lisa
March 3 8:45 Lisa
Dear Family and Friends,
HEMSI transported Joe to Atlanta today. The paramedic, Jill, who rode with Ginny and Joe to Atlanta was the same person who helped Joe during that dark day a few weeks ago. Thanks Jill for all you did to keep Joe alive! And special thanks to Dr. Lynn Boyd who bravely held a torn shirt on Joe’s head to stop the bleeding as well as talked to him until the paramedics arrived.
Joe getting settled in and will be assessed by all the experts tomorrow. Dad and Mom Leahy, who followed the ambulence, helped get everything moved into the apartment efficiency adjoining the hospital while Ginny was with Joe. Know they are very busy–will post as more information becomes available.
Keep the prayers and masses coming–lots of hard work to rehabilitate.
Love and Blessings to All,
Lisa
Blink, this is OT, and I appreciate your leeway on this — I really do. I meant to add in my little dog post that I thought she had returned last night around 2:30 AM. Ever since the fire I sleep w/ the window opened a crack. I have a friend whose house also burned down — she sleeps on the sofa in clothes, not a pj’s, w shoes in her car and her purse on the sofa w/ her — it’s just a post-trauma thing —
Anyway, the cat was hissing, there was a great deal of noise in the bedroom — I’m trying to find my glasses and thinking the dog has returned — finally found the light — it was the possum. Who had jumped in the window and onto the chair and was headed to the dog food bowl — obviously it was not her/his first time to the rodeo — The cat is all puffed up like a fuzz ball and spitting fire — 2nd, older cat woke up, decided it wasn’t enough to stay awake, and tucked her head back in her tummy and resumed sleeping — I’m squawking, possum — slowly — turns around, hops back up on the chair and back out the window —
so I got up and took the food bowl and put it on the porch — the little possum is a juvenile and is not dark grey, so it’s not so gross looking yet — has the sweetest little white face — which is startling when you open the front door and it’s staring straight back at you from the porch wicker chair — and probably has been sleeping on this porch since before I moved here —
I then put the screen back on the window — i’d taken it down to wash the window last weekend — and went to bed wishing it had been the dog and not the vermin —
I just thought that was funny —
Since my last post I’ve spoken w/ the animal control officer, who told me they are on the look out for her — and referr’d me to VDOT because they are the ones who remove dead animals — which spiraled my thinking again to the Harringtons who had to take Morgan’s dental records and then submit to DNA testing …
I don’t know how they survived that — Gil’s words haunt me — and are accurate — she did not go to be w/ God at the end of a long and happy life — she was murdered — we have to stay strong in our support of them — before my house fire, I was collaborating on a book about the death of a child from a disease — in my research, I found that the death of a child usually causes a family to split apart because the grief is just too deep, it overrides everything. But then people do exactly as Gil describes — one psychiatrist I talked to said he’s found that people don’t want to associate w/ the parents due to some sort of tilted thinking: if it happened to THEM, it can happen to ME — they keep their distance — much like in a divorce — friends who were friends of the “couple” will distance themselves so that the stench of divorce doesn’t rub off on them — plus people don’t know what to say — gee, sorry your kid was murdered, but how about those Mets ?
The Harringtons need normalcy in their lives — they need people to talk to them about the weather, about politics, about too damn much snow this year — also, my research showed people will shy away, especially women friends who used to more or less vent to each other — you can’t talk about your husband/kids leaving wet towels on the bathroom floor to someone whose child has been murdered — but in reality, yes, you can, and you must.
As absolute justice must come for Morgan.
Everyone here is a treasure. We must continue to keep our intention that the person or persons responsible for this is brought to justice today —
You know, it just occurred to me — I had lost my job — then got it back and then immediately Morgan was found —
Maybe if Lexi comes home that will be a sign an arrest is immediate : )
Best regards to all —
Sky
Did you all see this?
Resolution to honor Morgan Harrington’s life in General Assembly
WSLS News Staff
news@wsls.com
Published: March 5, 2010
Updated: March 5, 2010
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/state_regional/govtpolitics/article/resolution_in_general_assembly_to_honor_morgan_harringtons_life/85543/
RE: Resolution to honor Morgan Harrington’s life in General Assembly
WSLS News Staff
While this is truly a nice gesture, we need these same legislators to strengthen sex offender laws and sentencing to a standard that might have saved her life.
Justice for Morgan, and all victims of sexual violence…
Sure, I only ask that I am given a heads up before you do, and you have.
B