Morgan Harrington Case: Exploring The Musical Connections
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Upon the recovery of Morgans remains, many parallels of her life reflected her love of the musical community in general, but also, the surrounding venues she attended previously, such as bonnaroo, allgood, the rooster walk, and floydfest. Charlottesville is rife with heritage, musical talent, eclectic artisans and those wanting to be a part of it, nightly, across the vast bucolic landscape. As a tribute to Morgan Harrington’s love of the Indi music scene, blinkoncrime.com will explore some of the culture and artists she embraced.
The Dirty Horse Featuring Charlotteville’s own Christian Breeden of Biscuit Run fame…The Dirty Horse. Coincidentally, TDH played at Maya the evening of October 17, 2009. The Dirty Horse, is a fan-staple of CVille, although development plans for Biscuit Run into a State Park through it’s purchase by VDOT may make Breeden more of a Crozet staple, closer to his other residence. Members are Breeden, Ariel Vegodsky, Mike McCue and Brian Massie . Christian, former front man for American Dumpster and son of late acclaimed sculptor David Breeden, is a renaissance of Bohemian royalty with talents ranging from sculptor, bike builder, artist, musician, photographer and self proclaimed Junkyard Spirit conjurer. Breeden’s latest endeavor, The Equinocalypse, celebrating the melting away of Winter and “new life” promises for Spring, is the invitation of the season to party “carny style”.
Party Liberation Front Now Here is a Gig. Resist the urge to think this is pledge week. Tis not. The Pyro laced gala will also be dj’d by Richmonds’ own FunkFriar John Reinhold and Conway Jennings. While “THE JOHN” is dragging up the long bar from Richmond, you can catch a listen to his mixjo here. As far as non-harvest, middle of the woods socials go- this may be the actual farmville, but with F I R E.
Pre Sentencing Report No doubt the Cvillain, edited by bathtub shroom purveyor and recently convicted *man about Cville* music, eatery and libation scene, Ian Saul, will be covering the “equal night”. It is not known if he will be using the ritual to influence any sort of leniency for a light sentencing on March 31. Regardless of his pending matters which one can observe daily on his facebook, Ian manages to personally attend and cover every evenings soiree in the ville.
Bring It and Sling It Carcinogen friendly preffered. BYOH.. Bring your own hula. Not to be confused with bring your own hooka. I am thinking fresh aire contact-hooka will suffice. BE CREATIVE. Fire-laced, dayglo, neon, light-sticks-strung-together, you are defined by your HOOP here and you don’t want anyone to think your a first timer. Or Not. You could certainly simply don your best minotaur frock and arrive fashionably equine. I have decided I will be attending dressed as Sukie Stackhouse, immediately following my dip in the soaking tub with my ammonium bicarbonate bath fizzies. Contributing Editor: Elizabeth Morton Images Courtesy of Klaasend
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let’s not forget the member of cb’s scintillation…and one good fire friend of ms. bh of burnt house. he is of greek descent with initials ca. don’t forget how many greeks are on ds’ and her older bro’s facebook…or at least…used to be
Blink, you are so fun!
I am so glad you decided to expand on Morgan’s musical & artistic interests. I have long thought she may have dabbled in the unusual, but I wasn’t sure anyone else agreed. Love the opening photo, to the uninformed looks like a love of art & arson in a blender. Wasn’t that the celebration of his Dad’s death?
And of coarse the hoola hoops! They sure have taken a turn in popularity.
Thanks for the piece I see you injury has made a complete recovery.
lol, I don’t know about the complete recovery it took me days to write that which would normally be very easy once it was fact checked, etc. But I am progressing, thanks.
B
Interesting since Breeden is also mentioned as a bike builder.
I would say things are starting to fall into place. Great work Blink.
Was Morgan known to associate with any of the the men referred to in the article?
Were any of the men in the article known to be in/around JPJ arena at any time on Oct 17, 2009?
@total amateur,
I dunno, but it appears one of the mentioned works JPJ.
http://www.facebook.com/zander.luke
And check out this article on FloydFest, esp last 4 paras. I was interested to note B’s confirmation Morgan was there (or at one of them, not sure if it was FloydFest ’09):
http://www.c-ville.com/index.php?cat=121304064644348&z_Issue_ID=11802707092816266&ShowArchiveArticle_ID=11802707094350843&Year=2009
A Texas Grandfather
These “artisans” are indeed different and some of them appear to be somewhat questionable as to character and behavior.
Many single young women are attracted to this type of behavior although I cannot understand why.
In my opinion, these types of events are rife with opportunities for unsavory characters to prey on women.
This may be what happened to Morgan.
I am still bothered by the woman with the paper route that observed a young blond woman with three men around three oclock in the morning at a convience store/service station on the night that Morgan disappeared.
So is this supposed to be a more crypitic use of presumably puting this guy breeden back on the chopping block? I swear if I were him I would cease and desist your site for defaming his name as defamation of character…. I have perused these posts and watch you people on your witch hunt for Morgans killer…. You all have in your own way via your posts basically accused Christian breeden. And now you colorfully advertise him in the mix of other musicians. I think it’s time he is enlightened of your overtime on the issues with him and allow hi
to either demand you stop or join In on your witch hunt !
What are you talking about? Your the same woman that tried to post a link to an RSO and accuse him because he looks like somebody you claim to have seen in “a vision”. Same person with the video tracking theory that has no relevance whatsoever, and apparently you tried to have the astrology folks at WS run a chart for a complete stranger.
There is nothing derrogatory whatsoever and btw, Breeden posted everything that is on here for reference BY HIMSELF.
Step Off if you can’t contribute already-
B
There is nothing defaming about Breeden or anyone else
I am of the opinion that Morgan’s killer(s) are not from this “counterculture”. I went to college in downstate VA and I know these kinds of people well. They tend to be college kids (or college educated), yuppies, environmental science majors, or young professionals on the rise who hang out in cafes…in other words, Morgan herself.
IF, on the other hand, we are assuming some sort of connection, then I think the cheese is being moved ever-so-slightly away from young RSOs who live in North Garden? I found a pic of cheese with his buds on myspace (I can email B if she so desires), and they’re more blue-collar, huntin’-n-fishin’ “country boy” types who in no way, shape, or form have interest in this sort of music. They encompass completely different universes, as anyone in their mid-20s or below, and have gone to school in VA, can tell you.
Good article blink. This breeden guy sounds pretty darn talented.
I’m just digging on the past…From 2006. Hunting & Tractors? Biscuit Run and the largest pot-luck supper…
As seen on-http://www.looseleafnotes.com/notes/2006/11/
American Dumpster: The Floyd Connection
“When we left, the lead singer, who sounded like Lou Reed meets Tom Waits, was weaving a free style rap about art, hunting, and growing up in a junkyard in Charlottesville, Virginia, the son of a well known sculptor.”
“a recycling movement of ideas” and relates to Breeden’s family farm: His family home just outside Charlottesville, Virginia is a curious nexus where art, agriculture, industry, and intellect merge in the most unpredictable ways. The Breeden farm is home not only to Biscuit Run Studios, a sculpture studio and long-standing institution in the Virginia art scene, but also to an extensive junkyard of rusted cars, motorcycles, farm tractors, and assorted machinery”]
Blink, I need to try and see where you are going with this.
Correct me if I’m wrong on any of my interpretations of posts you’ve made.
You said you believe the “clock reset” on January 25th. Cheese jumpsuit re-registered on January 25th. You have also said that you believe someone may have admitted to “picking up” Morgan and dropping her off- let me add that you said this was your own thought, for whatever reason. Is your hypothesis that cheese jumpsuit and the person admitting to picking her up are one in the same?
Now, we are on to “musical” connections. Are we trying to link cheddar jumpsuit to one or more of these people? Or are we trying to connect cheddar jumpsuit, any of the above, and Morgan to a common location on the night of Oct 17th?
I have stated for a long time I believe there are 2 people involved, with different backgrounds. I have stated the answers lie within the musical community, the fray, similar folks interested in similar things, the common denominators imo, all point to that and especially because I do not believe Morgan went with a complete stranger. That is as overt as I can be.
B
Morning Everyone. I agree Morgan would have found American Dumpster, and Christian Breeden’s Dirty Horse band quite likable. I have been researching the music scene and the night life for awhile.
Christian is not the only band playing that night. So I gently warn posters not to jump to conclusions. I read Blink’s article, and although it is interesting, and she mentions Morgans tastes for hula’s and Indie, ect, NOWHERE did I see her accuse Christian of anything. I am taking this article as an introductory article into Morgan’s likes and the music scene. One of more to come… Am I right Blink?
Christian has a great deal of talent, as does some of those he chooses to associate with. He is very well spoken when he wants to be, and has alot to say thru his art and thru his music. Like most musicians, he sings of loss and love, not always in a romantic way.
Mr. Breeden is not some kid, I believe he is 35 years old, and has made it “big” in his own right playing with bands such as Little Feet.
I don’t believe he could quietly pull off anything….
So guys, please don’t jump to conclusions. As I have said before, in searching for Morgan’s killer she has given me a new love of music and all that that entails- Check out the music you might like it, as for the bonfires and pyrotechnics, His band is not the only one that puts on a show…..
I am interested to know more about the bathtub mushroom guy… What’s his story? How does he tie in? I thought we ruled out shroom hunting???
B –
Did CB and the Dirty H have a residency at Maya? Playing the same venue just 2 weeks apart – i.e., the band was defnitely there on Oct. 31, following an alleged show on Oct. 17 *that I Cannot Find Listed Anywhere (please direct me)* – is unusual.
But that said, if he and his band did indeed play Maya Oct. 17, then they likely started at 10:30 p.m. (when their Oct. 31 show there is listed as starting). This makes it highly unlikely he or his band members were anywhere other than setting up at that very venue in the hours before the show began.
So: How does a possible MH encounter possibly play into his night…?
We do not know where Morgan was from 9:30PM, to presumably, dawn (my opinion). Seems like the music circuit is the best place to start, as I do believe you have been “of the mind” for some time.
In earlier threads the difference on the playdate announcements were hilighted, but it appeared on both dates.
B
I forgot to mention that of course I don’t know who was involved in Morgan’s death, and if it turns out to be someone Blink mentioned in this article, I myself haven’t came to that conclusion as of yet. Breeden ‘s family did get 4.6 mill from the sale of land- He is well known, he does have fans- Not sure how anyone can be tied to location location location unless it is thru Bass and his zoning commission, which may have pizzed of lots of people…..
From Blink’s previous article and posts:
Location, Location, Location
TaxMap88
The forced sale of Biscuit Run due to David Breeden’s original will was a disaster to its purchasers including Hometown crooner Dave Matthews.
A $46 Million dollar purchase from the Breeden family was recently bailed out by VDOT for under $10 Million.
crimewriter says:
March 3, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Here is a great link that reaffirms Blink’s research with some added facts concerning Biscuit Run. There sure is a lot of players involved and every stakeholder could lose…
http://cvilletomorrow.typepad.com/charlottesville_tomorrow_/parks_recreation/
Just Desserts says:
March 3, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Thanks, Blink, for pulling aside the “cheesecloth.”
IMO– which is informed by my watching Albemarle’s population climb from less than 25,000 to 100,000 in 40 years– this whole land use/zoning board/ rich power brokers/ poor “rednecks”/ developers vs. conservationists running skirmish has been a festering abscess for a lot of years.
Now the stinky cheese from that abscess overrunneth our plate.
Was Morgan killed because of land use and zoning grudges? NO. Verrry, verrry unlikely that there was any such motive.
Was she, post-mortem, used to cause embarrassment and, potentially, to delay or devalue land development plans, by someone opposed to or resentful of such plans? MAYBE. Though I’m not sure this would have been the very next thought after, “Well, damn, you’ve killed her; now what?” Which, to me, supports two notions: (a) involvement of more than one perp in Morgan’s death, either directly or immediately after, and (b) the likelihood that she was not placed where she was found as quickly as some people have assumed, but after some consideration/ consultation.
Blink, I did not know that David Bass had (a) as much land as he owns, (b) been Vice-Chair and then Chairman of the county’s Zoning Appeals Board for the past decade, (c) withdrawn so much of his own land from the rural land use conservation program, with evident designs to subdivide and develop it. I should take more interest in details of my county’s governement!! instead of thinking, “well, the big money will do what it wants, so, as long as it’s NIMBY….”
Here’s the deal with zoning, in a county that’s gone from lots of wide open land to fewer big opportunities for developers: it becomes a Ponzi-like bubble, in that the first to “cash in” make out amazingly well, as the Breedens astutely did at the height of the property bubble in 2005 (selling over 1200 acres to a development group for $46 million), while if you wait too long, the community starts to notice and protest that future options are being foreclosed.
I’ll add more later; gotta run now.
But thanks again, Blink. I felt there was a bad smell as soon as we learned that Morgan had been ‘disposed of’ on Anchorage Farm, and I think it will prove to be an intersection of greed and grudges.
“Drive carefully, there are beasts on the byways. You’re rolling in heavy metal chariots fuelled by dinosaur bone stew. What is ugly and what is Beautiful? What is complete and what is left undone? Look at it at night or from a distance.
That fish has been swimming around our property for about five years. I carved him out of Styrofoam. Daddy David doesn’t carve stones that much anymore, but he loves troweling on the mud. Subtractive process, followed by additive process, then layered in coats of color and mosaic: the whole procedure is an attempt at altering reality, creating things that are whole and greater that the sum of their parts. I abandon them all the time. I go travel and work for minimum wage in some distant place while these monsters lie in the mud. Time passes. I see them again with new eyes and the strength to go back to work on them.
Everybody loves fishies. I’ve sold and given away many stone fish. They’re easy to make because there are a lot of fish shaped rocks out there. These creatures grow increasingly symbolic to me. A fish in water is like a person having a dream. Oh to live in fluid. I believe in a common unconsciousness, in infinite layers of order, in an alternate reality, and that the universe is a whole and complete functioning organism whose true nature most of us have no notion of. I don’t have all the words or the proper forum to state these beliefs, so I ponder them while I sculpt. I’m trying to communicate. It’s my job.”
Christian Breeden
Biscuit Run Studios
Charlottesville, Va.
http://www.biscuitrun.com
MOM3.0 I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THESE THREADS AS WELL AND IT IS CLEARLY ASSUMPTIVE THAT THE USE OF CHRISTIAN IN HERE IS TO PROFILE HIM, I THINK BLINK POSTED THE OTHER ARTISTS AND CREATED THE MUSIC INTEREST AS A DIVERSION TO NOT LOOK LIKE SLANDER, BUT THIS COMES AFTER MANY POSTS THAT ALREADY ALLUDE TO IT. MATTER OF FACT …JUST READ ALL OF THESE POSTERS ITS OBVIOUS ! GEE WHO NEXT THE MILK MAN BECAUSE SHE LOVED MILK ……….
As a matter of fact….
Cows on a Farm = Milk.
Morgan deceased on a Farm = Milkman
Can you seriously find an outlet?
B
Great piece B!
Again, just as the last article you will have people jumping to conclusions….Morgan was not killed because of a land dispute and in no way is B calling these musicians out as Morgan’s killers. It’s an article about the music scene around VA.
I think dissapointedone should go back and read the article…
Disappointedone says: I have perused these posts and watch you people on your witch hunt for Morgans killer….
******
Well perhaps you prefer her killer go loose? Maybe you could provide some insight so that the witch hunt ends and the killer/s are arrested and Morgan’s parents can finally rest.
Disappointedone, what exactly is your position on all this?…just askin’….
Blink, you don’t have to necessarily post, but I’m going to throw out anything that catches my eyes…even if it’s old & it’s just you that reads it. I swear I’m not trying to waste you, your moderators, or any of your posters time here.
http://asecular.com/index.php?050805
On the porch at the random Belmont party, this guy Christian Breeden thought it essential that Jessika not go home but instead join the party. So he ran off after her while Jessica and I waded in. Various cheery, hospitable people offered us icecream and pie as well as a variety of beverages, though all we cared about was booze. The only person I knew there was Joanna, another Malvern transplant. She was wearing a kerchief on her head, which reminded me of a fetish I’d admitted to earlier: bonnets on the heads of Amish women. I don’t remember much of what was happening at this point, except that Christian Breeden’s slender girlfriend was pacing back and forth with a cellphone pressed hard against her head. Evidently she was in a quandry about where her boyfriend had gone.
Jessica and I ran across them later as we left the party. There was some sort of strange conversation full of veiled insults with a chaser of drunken pleasantries. By the time we got back to Hogwaller, we found Jessika had bolted her door to hold back the crackhead horde. So Jessica and I went next door to her place. For some reason she was talking about Pantera as she put on a Rod Stewart album. By this point Monk the enormous dog had again peed on the floor. Though it was late, for some reason the night was not yet over, so I had to go out to my car and retrieve a warm bottle of Hurricane Kitty, one of many Keegan Ales I’d brought with me from the Hudson Valley. I ended up sleeping on a couch belonging to a Jessica, not a Jessika.
Blink, thank you for your new article.
I hope you are feeling better.
What a roller coaster ride we are on.
There are brutal killers roaming free in Charlottesville, Va.
TY friend
B
Keekee, I thought at first, D was Greek, and I would have given her a talking to, but I “think” she’s Albanian.
the music connection is very important to understand as the backdrop to morgan’s murder. most blinkers and blink bring up band names and members’ names as a jumping point from which to find mr. sociopath. christian is like most of the successful band members mentioned on this site. these people have multiple jobs as artists, photographers, or promoters while playing in a band and often in multiple bands. their schedule is jam packed and they are responsible workers in a funky artistic sometimes depraved atmosphere. some of us may not agree with their lifestyles, but they do not fit the profile of the kind of twisted person who brutally murdered morgan.
it was not an accidental death…not an od, not the result of some stupid but dangerous sexual game. no, it was the work of someone who hunts for his prey. my vision of this murderer is someone who can pass for acceptable with his rudimentary social skills until he burns bridges or people catch on to his shark eyes. he would be a band “hopper”…a kind of hanger on, if you will. he is full of rage, jealousy, a wannabe musician who may occasionally play, may be learning disabled and abused as a child, has a group of fellow twisted friends and/or relatives who range between putting up with him to having fun watching his games. his family knows he is dangerous, but they protect him through some sort of misguided and amoral sense of family loyalty. he has never had a long term relationship and blames it on the girls. he feels entitled to carry out his dirty deeds, because the world has screwed him over. he is never sad about himself…only mad at those who have done him wrong.
the local bands and musicians we are getting to know have empathy and work ethic. they just don’t fit the bill in my opinion.
Yes, could be, but they may rub up against them. Also, good profile, but keep in mind those types learn to adapt, kwim?
B
“just got off the phone with Scorsese, he said that he was interested in a movie adaptation of my life, as Shutter Island & The Departed weren’t thrilling enough. I guess Directors now agree with all those who have been telling me this for years” — Ian Saul
The abduction scene should be pretty intense.
I wonder who will play the part of the abductee?
Did you review the rest of that “wall” day?
Specifically, the HH reference?
B
Blink, do you think Ian J. Saul is the chap in the video & still shots I sent to to you?
I hope you are feeling better :- )
You know I have studied that and it is SOOOOO close, but I think the age is off. I sent it to a friend at the “the lab”.
I should have told you that I was waiting on that, my bad, sorry.
B
Well said, Mom 3.0.
Thanks for gently and eloquently cautioning us to remain focused and not become overzealous in our search for Morgan’s killer(s). Morgan’s musical tastes were quite ecclectic and lead her to come in contact with a number of different groups and individuals. It is reasonable to expect that one or more of those connections may prove fruitful in finding the key to her demise. However, overt and aggressive pursuit of anyone and everyone is not productive. Thanks for helping to keep us all in check.
Morgan’s unique and individualized style has endeared her to many. Her willingness to embrace a variety of musical genre has lead me to be more open and explore a wider variety of music. Thanks Morgan, again for enlightening me and expanding my horizons.
Blink, is it your belief that there is a musical community connection based on the interactions/conversations she had outside JPJ? She did speak to quite a few people, I would assume she mentioned her general plans to at least one person/group. A person/group LE has interviewed.
It is my belief that this community, and the members of it, may have met Morgan at a venue, and perhaps saw her that evening, or she trusted someone that she was familiar with.
B
Mom3.0 although shroom hunting was not “in season” in mid Oct, BG could have gained detailed knowledge of the area on hot summer nights spent shroom hunting on AF.
Good evening Miss Blink, you write about à Woman that accused someone because of à Vision. I posted only One Time here because of something similar but i am not this Woman you are Talking about. I respect your work and this of all People who are doing so much to help find someone very bad before he / they does something to somebody else. I would never accuse someone basing on à Feeling or à Vision. I am so sorry and sad for Morgan and her Family and so sorry for all the missing persons and there family. I pray that this Person ( persons) will be Found. With respect Löni
My deep apologies friend, and thanks for asking me to clarify. That individual was not happy that I would not post specifics that she “saw”, that are insensitive to Morgan and her family, and that I have personal knowledge to be innacurrate.
I have yet to ever meet an “intuitve” who is angered over such an issue, I respect everyone’s opinion as long as it is offered respectfully, from whatever “aura” it comes from.
B
I see your point jlh- Didn’t have to be hunting for a shroom that night…Thanks
13.Mom3.0 says:
March 12, 2010 at 2:01 pmI am interested to know more about the bathtub mushroom guy… What’s his story? How does he tie in? I thought we ruled out shroom hunting???
Here is an old article I found.
Police seize shroom supply
By Reed Williams, Daily Progress staff writer.October 29, 2004.
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:X52TjYSsrCMJ:www.mushroomjohn.org/newsuswestvirginia1.htm+Ian+Saul+charges&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Yes Eloise, good find, thanks. Blink included that in her article plus a few others just click on the words bathtub shroom purveyor…
Thers was a post “plumbing/hvac contractors sure haven’t changed” on IS facebook, was that in reference to him being one? hmmmm
PM1, You are Welcome- Morgan has given me the gift of music also. I thought I knew what my taste in music was… I had stopped looking into new bands or different styles a long time ago- But thru Morgan, I have again discovered you are never too old to appreciate something new…
I could see Morgan being locked out of the arena and trying to make it to a show, which featured dancing and music and whatever… C-ville has a # of clubs, restaurants ect that I believe she would have liked and went to previously, or were showing bands, or playing music that she was into…
Thank you Miss Blink for the answer, i am Not à Medium i am à normal Woman that go to work in Germany as à translater with five languages and doing Horse riding competicion at higher Level at the Weekend. I only had this ” visions at the beginning reflecting about Caylee then Brittanee and then Morgan. I was very surprised and i saw so real pictures that i took all my Courage and told you about. But thats all if it can help good if Not i tried to tell. I only read your Blog sometimes and i try to take à bit distance because it make me very sad. With respect Löni i wish you all good luck and pray you can help and find the Bad Person / persons.
Oh DUH! My vision is worse than I think. Thats embarrassing. LOL!
Mom3.0 says: March 12, 2010 at 2:01 pm:
[I am interested to know more about the bathtub mushroom guy… What’s his story? How does he tie in? I thought we ruled out shroom hunting???]
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Hi Mom, take a look here.
Troubled past would be an understatement.
http://wasdmz2.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/circuit.html
or should i say once was.
Blink’s Reply March 12, 2010 at 4:54 pm:
“You know I have studied that and it is SOOOOO close, but I think the age is off. I sent it to a friend at the “the lab”.
I should have told you that I was waiting on that, my bad, sorry. B”
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Thank you for this info, Blink. As you know, I’ve been scoping this chap
for the past month for that very reason.
cb is not a cyclist but ca is…and even races the paranormal
Where do certain bands and their groupies go after hours, particularly after a show when the bars close? What time do bars clear out around Charlottesville- is there a law stating when a bar calls last call? Where I’m from, bars are supposed to stop serving at 2:00 am. That said- much goes on after that. The bar clears out- neon signs turn off and front doors get locked. Usually there will be a few regulars or “insiders” that party later. I’ve seen things get pretty wild after hours.
Alot of times band members, “groupies”, and their drug dealers will go to a location after a show for after hours. Usually somebody’s house, apartment, or a party spot.
If Morgan left with someone she knew, on a weekend night at 9:30, she was going somewhere to party. If she was headed to a music gig- she never made it. Too many witnesses would have seen her. So, she could have left with someone who had the intention of going to one of these local shows. They could have stopped somewhere for some pre-game, and something happened before they ever made the show.
How hard is it to get into Maya during one of this guy’s shows? Do they sell tickets… or is it just a bar that fills up first come/first serve? If they sell tickets- was it sold out that night? If its first come/first serve- is the place packed enough to make it difficult to get in? I’m asking, wondering if an “insider” that writes columns and deals drugs could lure a young blonde-haired girl by promising entry to a sold out show. Her desire to be “part of the scene” could make her an easy mark.
The one thing that ties people from different social backgrounds together, even more than music, is drugs. On any given Friday night, a white-collar business exec with a penchant for coke becomes best buddies with the dirtbag who sells drugs out of his shitty one-bedroom apartment. Even people who love music, and DON’T do drugs know that bands, bars, and partiers go hand and hand with an undercurrent of the drug scene. Bad people and bad things surround all aspects of the drug scene.
When I was a young buck, on more than one occasion when trying to be part of the “in” crowd- I’d be with a friend who was ok- but end up stopping somewhere or going someplace and find myself in the company of people I’d rather not be. On more than one occasion- I’ve seen things I’d wish I hadn’t- to the point of making me nervous. My point is, Morgan could have left with one person, and quickly found herself somewhere with people that she wished she wasn’t-
What time do bars clear out around Charlottesville- is there a law stating when a bar calls last call? Where I’m from, bars are supposed to stop serving at 2:00 am. That said- much goes on after that. The bar clears out- neon signs turn off and front doors get locked. Usually there will be a few regulars or “insiders” that party later. I’ve seen things get pretty wild after hours.
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Yes there is — it is 1 or 2, can’t remember which. However, what you described happens at a lot of them — they close the doors and have a party with friends and staff.
Blink’s Reply March 12, 2010 at 4:50 pm:
[Did you review the rest of that “wall” day?
Specifically, the HH reference? B]
Yes, that word jumped right out (of course it was typed out in caps)
It was a reference, I think, to a Kanye West song.
He also has a jeep. Not that there’s a law against it or anything…
I think he is smarmy, but I see nothing in his background that concerns me as it relates to this case.
B
Interesting that the Sylvester Stallone wannabe has Lamb of God listed as one of his favorite bands. Wonder if he went to see them at JPJ in October of ’09?
A Texas Grandfather, here’s what the woman with the paper route saw:
snip
I know what I saw,” says Norma Parson, a newspaper delivery woman who believes she saw Morgan– or an incredible lookalike— coming out of a room on UVA’s West Lawn at 3:45am October 18, six hours after the last confirmed sighting on Copeley Bridge.
“She was tall and thin,” says Parson, who says the woman’s high black boots had heels making her appear taller than Morgan’s reported height of 5′6″ and that she wasn’t wearing the black hose or tights police have described.
Because the woman also was wearing a jacket that was fastened shut, Parson says, she couldn’t determine whether the woman’s blonde hair, which was tucked inside, was long or short. But as the blond woman— accompanied by three young men, two shorter, one taller— passed by her in the well-lit brick walkway along the Lawn, she says, she got a clear look at her face, and her heavily made-up eyes, in particular. She says the woman’s presence in the wee hours of a chilly night— and her bare legs— seized her attention.
“I thought, ‘What’s she doing out here dressed like that,’” Parson recalls. When she learned of Harrington’s disappearance two days later and saw photographs of heavy mascara- and eyeliner-wearing Morgan, “I knew immediately it was the same girl I saw,” says Parson, who credits art training for teaching her to examine facial details— even those she sees in passing. “I never had a moment’s doubt,” she insists.
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Parson says she remains frustrated that police have not allowed her to identify the men she saw with the woman— particularly because she saw one on a subsequent night on the Lawn.
“I just want them to let me identify who I saw,” says Parsons, who now fears that her status as a potential witness may have put her in danger as she makes her middle-of-the-night newspaper rounds. But law expert Mnookin points out that police are limited when it comes to identifying people who haven’t committed a crime.
“You can’t arrest someone for no reason, and can’t make someone be in a line-up,” she says. If there were an already existing photo or if Parson could point one out in a public place, police could question him.
Parson acknowledges there’s a possibility the woman she saw wasn’t Morgan, but without knowing who it was— or who the men with that woman are— she says, there’s no way to rule it out.
Two doors down from the room Parson identified, Fourth Year student Declan Tansey says he was not interviewed by police and hadn’t heard anything about the case except what he’s read in news accounts. He, however, agrees with Griffin’s assessment that his room and the rooms around it are not the “party rooms” on the Lawn.
According to police spokesperson Corinne Geller, police have “thoroughly vetted” Parson’s lead but have not found anything connecting it to Morgan’s disappearance.
Lots more here http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2009/11/15/concerned-witnesses-before-hitching-morgan-harrington-caused-worry/
Blink, I just looked for the following HH reference and I don’t see it:
” clementine says:
March 12, 2010 at 4:50 pm
“just got off the phone with Scorsese, he said that he was interested in a movie adaptation of my life, as Shutter Island & The Departed weren’t thrilling enough. I guess Directors now agree with all those who have been telling me this for years” — Ian Saul
The abduction scene should be pretty intense.
I wonder who will play the part of the abductee?
Did you review the rest of that “wall” day?
Specifically, the HH reference?
B”
Did you get a screen shot or do you know what it said? I think someone may have deleted it.
I have a shot, yes, no tie to Morgan specifically at this point.
B
Clem-
I just can’t jump anywhere with it , not saying it is not there in the periphery.
B
14.J2K says:
March 12, 2010 at 2:13 pm
B –
Did CB and the Dirty H have a residency at Maya? Playing the same venue just 2 weeks apart – i.e., the band was defnitely there on Oct. 31, following an alleged show on Oct. 17 *that I Cannot Find Listed Anywhere (please direct me)* – is unusual.
But that said, if he and his band did indeed play Maya Oct. 17, then they likely started at 10:30 p.m. (when their Oct. 31 show there is listed as starting). This makes it highly unlikely he or his band members were anywhere other than setting up at that very venue in the hours before the show began.
So: How does a possible MH encounter possibly play into his night…?
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J2K- I agree with everything you said, thats why I was getting into the “what happens after a show” thing. Could Morgan have gone to an after hours party…etc etc.? Or was she supposed to get to the show, and never made it? Is the link everyone’s looking for somewhere in the mix of people who regularly attend this guy’s events?
I have to admit I find it interesting that Blink mentioned his “home” is closer to Crozet.
Blink- So you did somehow confirm that CB played Maya on Oct 17th? I couldn’t find it confirmed either.
@ keekee March 12, 2010 at 4:03 pm
I totally agree about the bad guy being a wannabe. He is *not* successful, nor is he too bright. His friends are too shallow to notice or care, his family taught him not to speak about his specific problems, and he grew up believing to be the best thing since sliced bread. He probably drove past campus every day, seeing all those talented kids.
@ MsLAL Thanks for that!
Just to repeat my question – where in the area in question would a violent juvenile sex offender be treated/kept in custody?
Domestic violence and abduction? Uh-huh.