Morgan Harrington Case: Exploring The Musical Connections
Disclaimer– exclusive original content copyright and property of Internet Network News, LLC and Blinkoncrime.com. Reproduction of this article , ANY OF IT’S Conclusions or CONTENT, in whole or in part without proper attribution and source link is strictly prohibited without prior written permission. Charlottesville, VA– On the evening of one of the most anticipated musical events of her young 20 years, Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, disappeared from the Metallica Concert at JPJ on October 17, 2009. After months of investigative efforts involving four different law enforcement jurisdictions, Morgan’s skeletal remains were found by Anchorage Farm owner David Bass on January 26, 2010.
Upon the recovery of Morgans remains, many parallels of her life reflected her love of the musical community in general, but also, the surrounding venues she attended previously, such as bonnaroo, allgood, the rooster walk, and floydfest. 
Charlottesville is rife with heritage, musical talent, eclectic artisans and those wanting to be a part of it, nightly, across the vast bucolic landscape. As a tribute to Morgan Harrington’s love of the Indi music scene, blinkoncrime.com will explore some of the culture and artists she embraced.
The Dirty Horse 
Featuring Charlotteville’s own Christian Breeden of Biscuit Run fame…The Dirty Horse. Coincidentally, TDH played at Maya the evening of October 17, 2009. The Dirty Horse, is a fan-staple of CVille, although development plans for Biscuit Run into a State Park through it’s purchase by VDOT may make Breeden more of a Crozet staple, closer to his other residence. Members are Breeden, Ariel Vegodsky, Mike McCue and Brian Massie . 
Christian, former front man for American Dumpster and son of late acclaimed sculptor David Breeden, is a renaissance of Bohemian royalty with talents ranging from sculptor, bike builder, artist, musician, photographer and self proclaimed Junkyard Spirit conjurer. Breeden’s latest endeavor, The Equinocalypse, celebrating the melting away of Winter and “new life” promises for Spring, is the invitation of the season to party “carny style”.
Party Liberation Front Now Here is a Gig. Resist the urge to think this is pledge week. Tis not. The Pyro laced gala will also be dj’d by Richmonds’ own FunkFriar John Reinhold and Conway Jennings. While “THE JOHN” is dragging up the long bar from Richmond, you can catch a listen to his mixjo here. As far as non-harvest, middle of the woods socials go- this may be the actual farmville, but with F I R E.
Pre Sentencing Report No doubt the Cvillain, edited by bathtub shroom purveyor and recently 
convicted *man about Cville* music, eatery and libation scene, Ian Saul, will be covering the “equal night”. It is not known if he will be using the ritual to influence any sort of leniency for a light sentencing on March 31. Regardless of his pending matters which one can observe daily on his facebook, Ian manages to personally attend and cover every evenings soiree in the ville.
Bring It and Sling It 
Carcinogen friendly preffered. BYOH.. Bring your own hula. Not to be confused with bring your own hooka. I am thinking fresh aire contact-hooka will suffice. BE CREATIVE. Fire-laced, dayglo, neon, light-sticks-strung-together,
you are defined by your HOOP here and you don’t want anyone to think your a first timer. Or Not. You could certainly simply don your best minotaur frock and arrive fashionably equine. I have decided I will be attending dressed as Sukie Stackhouse, immediately following my dip in the soaking tub with my ammonium bicarbonate bath fizzies. Contributing Editor: Elizabeth Morton Images Courtesy of Klaasend
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Know what else Blink? I think LE should take this time to go into the local highschools and let teenagers know the dangers of going out alone. Help teach them how to protect themselves and be smart. Before something else happens.
I actually think raising the awareness of personal security should start at the elementary level, but it would be a start. Also, parents, who in most cases are PAYING for their children’s education need to demand better stats and awareness from the school.
B
The Harringtons are meeting with the press today to mark the 5 month anniversary…
Gil and I are meeting with the press today to discuss the murderer(s) who killed Morgan and to mark the 5th anniversary of the day she was taken from Copeley Bridgeand likely killed. Gil and I want to thank all of you who have looked for Morgan, supported our family and been there when we did not think we could take another step. We could not be where we are or do the day to day work of looking for our precious daughter and now her killers without our fiends on http://www.findmorgan.com and the Help Find Morgan Dana Harrington Facebook page. Thank you!
http://www.findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2798
B I absolutely agree that personal safety needs to be taught as early as elemtary school, but I was thinking of the more immediate need for something to be done right now, before our local kids start making their way downtown for all the outdoor concerts. And the highschool kids especially, before they head off to college next year or the year after. We as parents can blather on and on about being safe, but they may really take notice when 4 or 5 cops take the stage and give them this same information. Our community is in need of this attention today.
New Morgan poster can be found at
http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/v…rganFlyer2.jpg
Oh, man, Gil’s last two posts. I can never read these without crying my eyes out…..
On the one from the 15th, she says her and Alex both got 2 4 1 tattoos on the inner wrist.
Gil Harrington’s thoughts from March 17th, 2010On March – 17 – 20101 COMMENT
The nights can be difficult. When you are between sleep and wake your defenses dip and then unwanted thoughts and images come roaring in. I try not to think of how scared you were, the terror you felt. I try not to think of how much pain you were in as you were slaughtered.
Were you still alive when they brought you to Anchorage Farm? To be hunted like a deer running frantically over the hay stubble in the field desperate to escape, trying to survive, crying, screaming, I see it. I hear it. Or, were you brought there already dead, like a slab of meat, carrion to be discarded and dumped in the field to rot – just another carcass in the hunting preserve.
These images haunt me at night. During the day I can usually shake them off and focus on our job, trying to find your murderer. Other girls are in danger while this sadistic monster walks free. We will never rest until he is put away. Morgan will you help us, in what ever way you can to remove his evil from the world?
2 4 1
Family Blog Gil Harrington’s thoughts from March 15th, 2010On March – 15 – 20102 COMMENTS
“Tat Attack “
Morgan you are pulling us in your wake to places we’ve never imagined ourselves to be. Last week you took Alex and me to a tattoo studio. Never thought I’d do that – but it seemed important to make some indelible manifestation on my body to commemorate the ending of your life. Your death is etched on my heart, my mind, my soul, but curiously, though a bit more haggard, my outside looks the same as when you were alive.
It’s funny where people find meaning and comfort. I have no need of a gravestone or marker, but this personal, physical tribute is important to me this time. Alex and I were a little scared initially. (He made me go first.) The process was really pretty easy, minimal pain or fuss. We both got the 241 dots on our inner wrist, where we would catch sight of it throughout our day.
Morgan, your murder has cut such a wide swathe through our lives that it seemed appropriate to have some physical sign of the impact on our bodies also. Alex and I are both happy with the symbols we now wear. It feels right, gives some kind of congruency that the outer is marked and changed as irrevocably as the inside has been. Dan is accepting, but made me promise that this would NOT be the beginning of a sleeve!
2 4 1
Gil: “Were you …still alive when they brought you to Anchorage Farm? To be hunted like a deer running frantically over the hay stubble in the field…”
Between this and the poem that mentioned JFK, Lennon, etc – does this basically affirm that she really was shot?
My last post for the morning
I think LE needs to hold another press conference. If for nothing else, make it a press conference that will make the BG more nervous, maybe it will be enough to send the possibly already panicked accomplish over the edge.
I think the heat needs turned up so that anybody who knows anything will crack under the pressure. Get press conferences out there – PUT SOME DAMN HEAT ON THIS PERSON!!!!
My apologies if this has already been tossed in and thrown out: was the LE description of the details of the shirt deliberately vague or misleading, so if/when it turned up, only LE and the Harrington’s would know it was the “right” shirt? Even as I type this, I think it sounds silly, it would have impeded the searches. Was it out of play for so long because of DNA testing? Maybe they didn’t place much importance to the shirt when it was found because they had not yet found a shirtless Morgan?
And I have found Observer’s and Mom3.0′s comments riveting this morning.
Quoting from Gil’s blog:
“….During the day I can usually shake them off and focus on our job, trying to find your murderer. Other girls are in danger while this sadistic monster walks free. We will never rest until he is put away. Morgan will you help us, in what ever way you can to remove his evil from the world? …”
So I take it: no suspect, no POI. Waiting for forensics.
Sorry it’s a little OT, but it is an interesting article about online privacy…
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/17/technology/17privacy.html
With regards to the shirt, there have been some questions about how it can be determined that it was indeed Morgan’s. Couldn’t there be hair evidence inside the shirt? Morgan had very long hair and if this were a sexual assault, then there is a good chance the shirt was violently removed which could leave hair inside. Odds are that it wouldn’t be seen by BG, especially in a panic at night. I don’t think there necessarily had to be blood evidence to provide the DNA linking this to Morgan. Sorry if already discussed.
Observer, thank you or sharing your thoughts on the shirt in your 10:22 pm post. I’ve been having trouble coming to terms with the notion that if it was Morgan’s shirt LE screwed up big time by not turning the area into a crime scene and thoroughly gathering other forensic evidence. The idea of 2-3 detectives mumbling to themselves as they looked in bushes seemed strange to me.
After your post, I was feeling even more confident the shirt wasn’t Morgan’s…that is until I read Mom3.0′s 1:40 am interesting post. I hadn’t thought about private investigators being involved and forgot about the various LE jurisdictions assigned to this case which could easily lead to confusion and tactics that would seem out-of-place in similar investigations.
I still can’t say I agree completely with the “bone” Blink gave us in stating the shirt is Morgan’s, but these two posts have me firmly planted back on the seesaw.
**sigh**
blink – you again have a response of wanting to “put them in my pocket” with an added comment about recharging your batteries with gil’s words.
would there be any chance that le found morgan’s cellphone battery on the redhill bridge? the last time i remember you using these words in a response was when we were discussing what the cyclists might have noticed on the bridge or pulloff.
You are sharp keekee.
But in this case, when I say I want to put her in my pocket, I mean I wish I could protect her.
B
and thank you to all you good fellow blinkers who gave me a shout out of support on here. it means a lot to me. i is what i is
Morning and may today “B” the day!
Kathy, so cool! Proud of you.
Ok–totally thinking outside the box: Blink has stated that she believes the Pantera shirt is Miss Morgans. Is it possible that someone from the FOUR or more investigative agencies “planted” the shirt on Grady Ave. to “move the case along.” The shirt would then, indeed” belong to Miss M. (Family or someone gave shirt to LE.)
Blink, Do you now think Miss M. was lured from arena?
HI FISHIE!
Gil’s post…
If we had any doubts about the brutality of Morgan’s murder, I think we can lay it to rest. Dear Gil’s words, slaughter, terror, hunted, escape, screaming, sadistic monster. Words we have all thought, but tried to run from, because of the ugliness and pain. I’ve thought about and seen the ‘unspeakable things’ in my mind eventhough I didn’t want to. I dreaded the day that I would hear from Morgan’s dear mother’s lips that that’s what she sees and hears at night, because I knew it was there. I love this lovely mother so much and my heart hurts so much for her, Dan and Alex. Although, their pain is so much greater, because Morgan was theirs, the pain that I feel is almost unbearable. I hope they know how many stand with them and hold them up, when they are feeling weak. To Dan, Gil and Alex, we are here for you, standing strong and vigilant and will NOT give up until that sadistic monster is arrested and justice is served! And then we will still be here for you as long as you want us! So much love and respect and honor to Morgan and your beautiful family!
There are so many great posts. I’ve had so much going on for the last week, but I have been here when possible reading. It will take me a while to catch up, because I want to read every post.
Thanks Blink and all for all that you do in the search for J4M.
Blink, I’m always in awe and admiration of the great job you do. Thanks for always having our backs and dear friend, I’ve got your back, too. It’s easy sometimes to read something the wrong way, but it’s all in the way you take it. Always analyze before you reach a conclusion. That’s for no one in particular. Just a thought to share.
And wow! Rock on Sky!
Love and hugs to all.
Mom3.0 says:
March 17, 2010 at 1:25 am
I don’t know -perhaps a private investigation team made the initial find and search- perhaps LE was able to keep subsequent searches of the area underwraps and therefore the media was not alerted? Perhaps in Nov it was still unsure who’s jurisdiction the shirt find was assigned to-so it was handled gingerly by whatever department was there?
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That area is full of students. LE would not be able to keep any significant search under wraps. All of grounds would have been buzzing about it within a day IMO.
I am unable to find the truck sized holes observer claims exist is her logic.
Never underestimate jurisdictional pettiness and the ensuing rancor it creates.
READ ABOVE…….. READ ABOVE…………….
B
Observer, you make sounds points- as always. And as always, I will pose more questions… it’s what I do. (Other than come up with crazy hypotheses.)
When did VSP take over the investigation? Before, or after the finding of the shirt. Regardless if it pertains to the shirt… I’d still like to know. I’m wondering if this isn’t one of the thing’s Blink suggests was “mis-handled” by differing agencies. Perhaps LE already had a solid POI, and felt immediately that the shirt was a “plant.” Evidence would probably indicate, based on this assumption, that there would not be other evidence in the area. As the area is constantly passed through by many people, any trace evidence would be compromised at best. A periphery search might have been adequate in their eyes. What would you expect to find? An eye-witness or maybe a footprint. If assuming it was a plant- I’m sure the perp didn’t hang around to smoke a cigarette. They would have pulled over, dropped, and took off. I’m still wondering if LE was showing pictures to residents of a certain person(s), asking if they had been seen in the area. I’m also wondering if this whole T-shirt find was grossly mis-handled. Sorry, but it happens.
I do agree with you, Observer, that the perp(s) do not have a knowledge of forensics. I believe they are of average to below-average intelligence. They probably are under the impression that they are very bright.
I believe the shirt was removed at the primary crime scene, wherever that might be, along with the boots, purse, and necklace. These things may have been left behind initially. The perps probably collected them during “clean up”, after disposing of the body. Perhaps held onto as “trophies”. This is sociopathic behavior, and is concerning, to say the least. If the shirt was found in November, it leads me to believe it was planted there sometime immediately preceding it’s discovery. That means the perp(s) “had it” since Oct 17th. This also suggests it was not driven to Grady the night Morgan was murdered. I’d like to know if, when, and where her boots were found. I would suspect they were “planted” on the same night as the shirt. Keeping these objects for a short time would give even dim-witted perp(s)time to calm down and think of scattering Morgan’s clothing to throw off LE. Forensically… stupid. But to a simple mind… brilliant.
I am not sure I should post this for several reasons, out of respect for Morgan and her family and a beautiful, young coed from Auburn that was killed a year or so ago. But here goes -
BTW, I have a daughter that graduated from Auburn and another sassy daughter that is enrolled there now, so with all due respect I tried to find as much information about the Auburn kidnapping and murder as I could get my hands on at the time. The Auburn coed actually was kidnapped from a parking lot that my oldest parked in FOR THREE YEARS! After hearing of her tragedy, I realized this could have been my innocent child easily.
With that being said, I cannot prove or link to an article, but I was informed that the POS that kidnapped Ms. Burk getting into her car then made her sit in the passenger seat while he drove off with her. She was instructed to unclothe in the car and he drove to a “remote” area. (Sorta). When Ms. Burk was found roadside, she was either partially unclothed or nude, I cannot verify that part. So he DID ride around with her undressed.
My point here is not to assume what a BG will ask a victim to do or not to do. They are BAD. Reason and logic are not in their cupboards. Now I find it interesting, are we seeing Morgan’s personal belongings scattered? What a psycho.
On another issue, Auburn has revisited safety and security on campus. I was very pleased as to what the Chief of Police had to say at our freshmen orientation. Ha – he gave out his cell # to all the parents! Escort services have increased to around the clock. “The drunk bus is a call away.” (And no you don’t have to be drunk to call the bus to come get you – it is just called the “drunk bus”.) (Boy, I am not that naive – I been doing this college rodeo for a very long time).
The incident in Auburn folks, could have been anywhwere on any campus as the BG is ceritfiably nuts – sometimes just plain evil comes forth. But colleges should not wait until tragedies strike and it is a parent’s duty to find out what colleges are doing about these safety issues – parking at night, escort services, dorms being locked (are doors being propped open?), how do students get home from the library in the middle of the night, how do they get to the remote parking lots?
Sorry – I could go on forever about campus security. I have another student away at a PARTY school also. Fortunately, that child is a HE and the issues are different there. But I always remind him to look out for his “girl” friends when they are about.
And about those stats from the colleges – I personally don’t think the accurate ones are published. JMO But it should be asked at each orientation.
One more before I go – my older child was having so many parking tickets and tows on campus that I was just about to go retrieve her car. A taxi every day would have been cheaper, seriously. So once she parked in a reserved lot for the entire night as she was at a lab doing a project. I was furious as she knew she was not allowed to park there. Her comment to me at the time was, “Would you rather me have gotten raped?” I thought it was rather flippant of her then. I so totally think differently now. Ponder it folks.
Just an off topic blurb:
Ya know, sometimes when a new tidbit comes out- I’ll get all wound up, and type really fast… making a bunch of short posts asking questions. The grammatical errors I make during this time, I accept and attribute to my excitement. But when I make a longer, more thought-out post… I scan it for typos before posting. I usually find 2 or 3 errors. Yet, EVERY SINGLE TIME after I post it… I find more. I hate that.
How many other people find mistakes in their grammar after posting and think everyone’s going to assume they’re an idiot? lol
ok, blink –
i am feeling rather dense, but i will take a final shot at this.
is there a suspicion that someone is already in somebody’s pocket?
or is there evidence that someone is being paid to keep quiet? or interfere with the investigation?
Replying to Observer’s post about the Pantera shirt;
You sure made an interesting argument as to why the shirt shouldn’t belong to Morgan. To me, I discounted the shirt from the get go because it seemed too staged. Also, the Charlottesville police didn’t seem to be concerned by the finding of it. In fact, the first we heard of the finding didn’t come from LE. Instead we learned from witnesses who were complaining of being strong armed by big guys akin to bouncers, rather than legitimate law enforcement officials. The entire thing sounded absolutely unprofessional and downright shady!!!
I just don’t feel it either. Any time spent handling this shirt would leave some trace evidence of the handler. Morgan’s murderer/s would have to remove the shirt from Morgan’s body–all the while wearing pristine gloves–and immediately hermetically seal the shirt, so that no sign of their vehicles carpet fibers, own hair, pet hair (if they have a pet, and if so, that poor pet) etc, etc, are found on this shirt.
Did some over zealous PI’s plant the shirt and then proceed to harass the occupants in the nearby apartment complex? It seems all too shady in the way the shirt was found. I just ain’t a buying it! Not for a second. Thanks for reading!!~Moonchime
1. Maybe the recovery of the shirt WAS mishandled as to protocol, the VSP was in assist mode at this time, not “lead.” Keep in mind, this case was transferred to VSP sole jurisdiction for a reason.
2. Why is everyone sold that Morgan’s shirt had to be removed following her death? If it is her shirt, which I contend it is, then she was not found with it on.
3. Your assuming it does not have trace evidence of a handler. How would that matter unless there is voluminous blood evidence or brain matter, or any other marker of probable death by the person wearing it coupled with DNA markers of a known offender with a hit in CODIS, who does not have a reasonable explanation as to how it got there.
Here ya go.. ” I was walking down the street, I saw this shirt, I picked it up, I realized it was trash and whipped it.” ( insert any other permutation you can think of, the bottom line is, sans a primary crime scene, or corroborating physical evidence to the perps at the recovery scene nobody is getting arrested with this evidence which is what it seems to be the perception.)
I feel the need to say this, and it is not directed at anyone in particular of course, but i am not getting the warm and fuzzy gets the picture of what we are dealing with here.
If you review posts here, the profile of these unsubs is pretty static.
They are young, they are brutally violent, they are remorseless and they now learned something about how better to get away with this next time. These people do not give a rats bippy about whether or not Morgan was shirtless, in fact, I would go as far as to say it gave them pleasure that she was to go to her grave that way.
JMHO
B
Beautifully put, Josie. I have had to banish from my mind the thought of Miss M. being “hunted.”
Total Am: It is incredibly hard for one to see her own own errors! Another reason why we need each other!
Keep-on KeeKee-ing on!
I keep wondering what other event(S) may have restarted the investigation on JANUARY 25…
A shout out to Total Amateur:
I see you have posted a couple times since I wrote an answer to some of your questions this morning. I don’t know how deep you backtrack, and soon everyone will be on the lovely new front-pager featuring Skyler’s rock. I wanted to alert you that my message to you is out there, this morning @9:13. I hope it helps you and everyone.
Interesting:
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Waynesboro Trio Linked To James River Body
http://www.nbc29.com/global/story.asp?s=12155578
“Christopher M. Dudley, who just turned 27, 24-year-old Susan J. Dudley, and 21-year-old Andrew C. Ottinger are all being held without bond at the Blue Ridge Regional Jail in Bedford County.
Investigators believe they had something to do with the death of Sean Placko of Churchville, though there is no word what that link may be.”
“Respectfully, there are alot of assumptions being made her. I ask all to read Redly comment.”
B
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Blink—heh? Who’s ? (forgive me, I can be a blockhead sometimes):~)
aah, my bad, meant redly.
B
Acho says: March 17, 2010 at 9:13 am:
[Observer, I agree w/ everything you say. One thing I don’t think you addressed, though, was the difference in description of this T-shirt vs how Mrs. Harrington described Morgan’s attire that night. Any thoughts on that? Because like you, I originally dismissed this whole T-shirt business. But our dear B *knows* something, it seems, and she (so far) is not backing down; at same time, though, she recognizes your sound points. So something’s up.]
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Regarding difference in tee-shirt:
The only (reasonable) explanation I can come up with is that one side of the shirt had ‘Pantera’ on it, while the other side had ‘Pantera’ plus an image. This is quite a common design with rock concert tees.
Here are some examples:
http://www.goodrock.com/store/p-395-pantera-skull-knives-shirt.aspx
http://www.goodrock.com/store/p-449-pantera-skull-and-leaf-shirt.aspx
acho –
Re: the DDO . . . what individuals (discussed on BOC) is he connected to, and what are the nature of the connections?
Was he a juvenile while in custody in 2006?
More info please, or at least give directions to where I can find said info ?
LOL total, I’ve been on here so long that by now everybody knows I’m an idiot. There was once a time when I could spell and write in complete sentences but that is apparently all long gone. I get what you’re saying, especially when it comes to the fire. I’m right with you too, acho. Keep bringing it.
C-ville says:
March 17, 2010 at 3:19 am
“On another forum (not sure exactly when & where, or I would link) there was discussion from one of the people involved in that search. This person said that a boot was found behind Bellair Market on Ivy Rd/250 West.”
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I find this interesting. IF (and I recognize that is a big “if”) both the shirt and the boot that were found are both Morgan’s, they were found in opposite directions from eachother. The shirt was found a couple of miles east of the JPJ. The boot was found a couple of miles west of the JPJ. Add to this that the purse was found in the JPJ parking lot, and Morgan herself was found south of the JPJ. Should we look for the necklace a couple of miles north of the JPJ?
acho posted:
Waynesboro Trio Linked To James River Body
http://www.nbc29.com/global/story.asp?s=12155578
“Christopher M. Dudley, who just turned 27, 24-year-old Susan J. Dudley, and 21-year-old Andrew C. Ottinger are all being held without bond at the Blue Ridge Regional Jail in Bedford County.
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I saw that CM Dudley has previously been charged with malicious wounding and felonious assault. And the Ottinger kid is named Andrew Clay – it looks like his parents named him after Dice – Ahhhhhhh
It’s all out there, Sudafed, though I had to find it via the roommates; I’m sorry, I just won’t give initials or names, except to Blink and/or unless Blink already has presented them.
He is connected to all three of the female housemates, in addition to having at least one friend in Dirty Horse; a female member of a fire poi dance troupe CB performs with; several anon dudes, one w/ multicolored arm tats I find very interesting; the BF of one of the Sutherland housemates; a dude who works JPJA and is friends with all of the Dirty Horse crew, the Illville crew (mentioned here), and other local groups; and so on. Those are his immediate contacts on FB, but if I take it back one degree of separation, he is friends of friends with just about everyone we’ve discussed recently, except to my knowledge our elusive RSO (and I believe he is out there, via some alias).
All of that said, and to play devil’s advocate, that’s the nature of a town C’ville’s size.
Again, I point no fingers and make no deductions. I just wanted to answer TA’s inquiries about the possible male housemate/BF and any drug connections.
To acho point-
I have had the ID’s of the housemates for some time. That would be those “on the lease” and those known to crash there.
Unless there is a direct tie-in to Morgan’s case, I can’t and won’t go there. If we develop that connection, y’all will be the first to get it.
B
@ Observer
Yes, this is what one would expect from the perpetrator, and the only reasons I can think of why he could have planted the shirt are stupidity or insanity.
As for the police – I can see how it could have happened. They get a phone call about the shirt, send a couple of police cars, the officers believe it is very unlikely to be Morgan’s shirt, for the same reasons as anybody else on this website, but send it to the lab anyway, just to be sure, where it is classified as low priority. After weeks the results come back positive, but it is already too late to collect footprints or other evidence.
LE probably got hundreds of these phone calls about black boots or clothing being found they had to process on top of their usual work.
To the passing students, the initial response would have looked like any other police investigation, and it could have been interpreted as drugs being found hidden in the bushes or the like.
could someone plleease enlighten me about what the hay “ticatwo” means???
i don’t mind showing my ignorance, but lawd i am lost on that one
Your not, I answered already, it was my fault, wrong name, I meant Redly.
B
Clementine made a good point regarding the style of T shirt. From early on the way that Morgan’s was described, I believed it was one of their early logos. A vintage T with the block lettering. I am a few years older than Morgan, and I had one just like it. How’s that for tunnel vision?? I must admit once I picture something in my head, I have a hard time envisioning the sometimes obvious! Thanks Clementine! That’s why I love this site!
Moreover, if they have the DNA of person X on the shirt, but this person has an alibi for 9:30, but not for later in the evening, this would explain why Blink assumes there are two perpetrators.
If the shirt was planted, it is likely to show DNA evidence of the person handling it. But the same would apply to the handbag.
An alternative scenario to what Blink suggested: “Oh, now I remember, the blonde hitch hiker the other week, that was her?!? She seemed quite drunk, and she hugged me. I dropped her off at the train station.” This would explain DNA evidence on the shirt and the handbag.
On a different note, I don’t remember who brought it up, but someone on this website called Morgan’s death a monstrosity. Even though I don’t know more about the exact circumstances than anyone else on here, I get the impression that this is exactly what we are looking at.
No personal items were found behind WW. The boot recovered was a mans.
B
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Blink, are you referring to a boot behind Wild Wings being a man’s? Are both “boot” rumors one in the same, OR was there ANOTHER boot found behind this Bellair Market someone mentioned?
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acho- Thanks much for the alert! Somehow I missed it… sometimes things sort of “pop up” later… especially Blink’s comments. Very interesting info, I had heard people make off-the-cuff remarks about a guy in Peru, but I never figured out what the hell they were talking about, until now. More interesting is that he has drug connections and convictions. Do you know which “musical” connections he has? Is he linked in any way to Cheese Doodle?
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Blink says:
2. Why is everyone sold that Morgan’s shirt had to be removed following her death? If it is her shirt, which I contend it is, then she was not found with it on.
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I’m not. In fact, I’m convinced it was taken off early in the assault. It simply makes more sense. I think I’m hearing what your saying, Blink, overall as well. A LONG time ago I made a post stating that LE has to LINK THE PERP TO THE MURDER. They have to be linked to Anchorage Farm, or a primary crime scene. A defense attorney would be able to explain away some sweat on a shirt (like Blink states)… or even go as far as to say other biological evidence was “consensual”. They need evidence and/or eye witnesses putting this person at AF. OR a fingerprint in blood- something putting them at the crime scene- without a reasonable doubt. Actually, if this person admitted to picking her up, as Blink once suggested- almost ALL fiber and DNA evidence(hair, sweat, etc.) could be conceivably explained away. LE has to carve a hole into his alibi, and somehow has to link him/them to the murder and placement of the body. Location, Location, Location.
I really hope that the primary crime scene evidence isn’t a pile of cinders on Sutherland.
Whether it is on Sutherland, or elsewhere, I bet everything it has been burned.
B
This was a twitter update. Does anyone have the news story? Thanks!
Gil Harrington reads message describing ‘man-monster in Charlottesville’ who ‘makes sport out of killing’
Gil Harrington on lack of video from inside JPJ: ‘We have video all over WalMart. Do we protect our stuff more than our people?’
Here is the link
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/88164177.html
45.ConcernedBystander says:
March 17, 2010 at 8:45 am
MsLAL says: “There’s always a first time. How old are you?”
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I believe that comment was made by ChristianB himself. If you click on the name of the person that wrote it, it links you to his page. In that case, to answer your question – he’s 34.
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Thanks, CB, and yes, that other CB is who I was “talking” to! Sorry for any confusion. 34? He knows better, but I ‘spect he’s quite the Peter Pan.
sorry if this has already been brought up, but i can’t find it. is it known if the students reporting the tshirt find have been officially cleared? i can imagine that if there was confusion about whose jurisdiction the tshirt issue fell under, it may have taken longer than “usual” to clear these students. aren’t they local boys or from a county over?
also, i can imagine a very intoxicated morgan partying and maybe even hooking up with some cute boy willingly while at the grady ave apartments. it could even be that a steamy trist began in a parked car by the apartments and ended up by the bushes where her tshirt was willingly removed. or…she could have gone to the bushes to throw up from too much alcohol. she could have even passed out at some point and awoke later to the sadistic duo and her ultimate demise
Shirt: If she was wet from walking in the rain, perhaps changed into something else when she got to her destination before things escalated. Shirt was left behind or taken. Not to discount the vicious thought pattern of a BG.
And we don’t seem to want to go there, but even friends of BG’s will hide things to protect ‘their own’, even killing or cleaning up. Some people have no morals and no “natural affection” for fellow humans. And yet they walk among us and no one suspects them outright. So many murders I hear of are by people the victim knows. That would be a comfort factor for the BG. He knows them and they are predictable in their behavior. Gives him control. And I imagine once a bad act has begun, the rage and thrill (sorry) totally sweeps him away. We are not looking for a reasoning person. The planted evidence could even be a sick game between perps, or a warning to someone involved. Like who would believe trouble-maker over mr-good-guy.
ok heres the biggest hole,didnt blink confirm its morgan’s shirt?the kaliedescope focused then unfocused,and as was said “the seesaw began”,i am confused,didnt corrine geller like confirming info?ok.how is putting morgan’s shirt there “throwing le off”?if ya wanted to throw le off,off what?ditch the shirt at boy’ds tavern ,or sheetz,that’d throw em off,or why does putting the shirt there throw le off?it more like brings em on.observer the shirt could be removed before blood spills(except for the chin blood of which perp has no knowledge) at primary scene,then body left at anchorage farm and shirts remains in vehicle.or gets picked up from primary spot as he leaves.i dont understand why they risk fibers or their own dna being on it?
some random Q’s:
has anyone considered that Morgan may have purchased a Metalica ‘T’ at the concert and replaced the Pantera shirt with ‘it’…??
did Morgan leave the ‘old’ shirt with the friends…??
did she leave the arena to put the ‘old’ shirt in the car, and didnt realize she did not have the keys??
the Pantera ‘T’ could only have evidence of Morgan on it, along with her car’s fibers…
did Morgan’s friends try to coax her out of a party/BG’s house on Grady, disgustedly throwing her shirt “at her” when she wouldnt comply??
was the ‘T’ planted by LE, with 24 hr surveillance, to see “who” would react and/or respond with the finding…
could be as simple as the BG realizing that he was still in possession of the shirt as he was near this neighborhood, drove down a street with no activity at the time, and tossed it out the window…(most probable to me)
i also dont think there is so much as a cover up, as blink has termed it “mishandled”…i envision a scenario you sometimes see in baseball, where a pop-up lands between two defenders who were doing the “you got it-i got it-no, you got it-no i got it” thing, and ultimately, NOBODY has it……
“40.keekee says:
March 17, 2010 at 4:03 pm
also, i can imagine a very intoxicated morgan partying and maybe even hooking up with some cute boy willingly while at the grady ave apartments. it could even be that a steamy trist began in a parked car by the apartments and ended up by the bushes where her tshirt was willingly removed. or…she could have gone to the bushes to throw up from too much alcohol. she could have even passed out at some point and awoke later to the sadistic duo and her ultimate demise”
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i threw the “parked car for a 1st move/make-out session” scenario out there, as well as the vomiting angle also…i like them both as an explanation for the shirt find…
Finally, Gil Harrington said the killer broke Morgan’s bones.
“I cannot get the image of Morgan’s shattered bones out of my mind, nor the jagged feel of the fractures on my fingers.”
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/local/article/harringtons_talk_to_media_on_5_month_anniversary_of_morgans_death/87499/
My heart breaks for her family. Justice must be served soon.