Morgan Harrington Case: Exploring The Musical Connections
Disclaimer– exclusive original content copyright and property of Internet Network News, LLC and Blinkoncrime.com. Reproduction of this article , ANY OF IT’S Conclusions or CONTENT, in whole or in part without proper attribution and source link is strictly prohibited without prior written permission. Charlottesville, VA– On the evening of one of the most anticipated musical events of her young 20 years, Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, disappeared from the Metallica Concert at JPJ on October 17, 2009. After months of investigative efforts involving four different law enforcement jurisdictions, Morgan’s skeletal remains were found by Anchorage Farm owner David Bass on January 26, 2010.
Upon the recovery of Morgans remains, many parallels of her life reflected her love of the musical community in general, but also, the surrounding venues she attended previously, such as bonnaroo, allgood, the rooster walk, and floydfest. 
Charlottesville is rife with heritage, musical talent, eclectic artisans and those wanting to be a part of it, nightly, across the vast bucolic landscape. As a tribute to Morgan Harrington’s love of the Indi music scene, blinkoncrime.com will explore some of the culture and artists she embraced.
The Dirty Horse 
Featuring Charlotteville’s own Christian Breeden of Biscuit Run fame…The Dirty Horse. Coincidentally, TDH played at Maya the evening of October 17, 2009. The Dirty Horse, is a fan-staple of CVille, although development plans for Biscuit Run into a State Park through it’s purchase by VDOT may make Breeden more of a Crozet staple, closer to his other residence. Members are Breeden, Ariel Vegodsky, Mike McCue and Brian Massie . 
Christian, former front man for American Dumpster and son of late acclaimed sculptor David Breeden, is a renaissance of Bohemian royalty with talents ranging from sculptor, bike builder, artist, musician, photographer and self proclaimed Junkyard Spirit conjurer. Breeden’s latest endeavor, The Equinocalypse, celebrating the melting away of Winter and “new life” promises for Spring, is the invitation of the season to party “carny style”.
Party Liberation Front Now Here is a Gig. Resist the urge to think this is pledge week. Tis not. The Pyro laced gala will also be dj’d by Richmonds’ own FunkFriar John Reinhold and Conway Jennings. While “THE JOHN” is dragging up the long bar from Richmond, you can catch a listen to his mixjo here. As far as non-harvest, middle of the woods socials go- this may be the actual farmville, but with F I R E.
Pre Sentencing Report No doubt the Cvillain, edited by bathtub shroom purveyor and recently 
convicted *man about Cville* music, eatery and libation scene, Ian Saul, will be covering the “equal night”. It is not known if he will be using the ritual to influence any sort of leniency for a light sentencing on March 31. Regardless of his pending matters which one can observe daily on his facebook, Ian manages to personally attend and cover every evenings soiree in the ville.
Bring It and Sling It 
Carcinogen friendly preffered. BYOH.. Bring your own hula. Not to be confused with bring your own hooka. I am thinking fresh aire contact-hooka will suffice. BE CREATIVE. Fire-laced, dayglo, neon, light-sticks-strung-together,
you are defined by your HOOP here and you don’t want anyone to think your a first timer. Or Not. You could certainly simply don your best minotaur frock and arrive fashionably equine. I have decided I will be attending dressed as Sukie Stackhouse, immediately following my dip in the soaking tub with my ammonium bicarbonate bath fizzies. Contributing Editor: Elizabeth Morton Images Courtesy of Klaasend
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@ A Texas Grandfather March 12, 2010 at 12:57 pm
I believe these were two possible sightings, one at a convenience store in another town, and one not far away from campus.
Whether or not it was her is unclear. But – for some reason both witnesses remembered the incident, apparently because they thought there was something odd about it. Intuition is often right… but it could have been something completely unrelated.
Good for them to come forward and share their observations. There must be more witnesses out there that saw *something* that night, and who did not pick up the phone and call police.
The paper lady described different clothes – that was probably why the sighting was discounted.
Sorry, just a bit slow today – not just saw *something* – if they saw nothing during the time in question, that would be of importance as well, i.e. if there was no Morgan at a specific time on the bridge anymore.
Oh, one more thing. During the past few days/weeks I had a look at some social networking profiles – I AM SHOCKED at the amount of information people make available on the internet. Photographs, some sexually suggestive or apparently depicting underage drinking, names, addresses, and all sorts of idiotic posts.
I am only just from the pre social networking sites generation, and never got exposed to this stuff before. I honestly didn’t believe it could be that bad.
If someone publishes all this information online, it is in the public domain. Do these people really want to be seen like this?
total amateur says:Blink- So you did somehow confirm that CB played Maya on Oct 17th? I couldn’t find it confirmed either.
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10/17/2009 — Maya – Christian Breeden
http://www.c-ville.com/index.php?cat=141404064507774&CalDate=2009-10-17
TY Concerned.
B
The bathroom mushroom guy’s abduction and domestic assult happened the same day (2/1/09) but his arrest date for the abduction was 2/1/09 and for the domestic assult 8/19/09.
He’s FB friends with Christian Breeden.
Breeden’s are related to the Shiffletts with ties to Harisonburg.
Two members of the Breeden’s family live in the general vicinity of AF
Judi-
You have to go by True Bill date ( translation= Indictment).
B
dissapointedone,
Whoa- please don’t yell at me- I wasn’t defending Blink- She is fully capable of defending herself, believe me. Like you, I have been following these threads- I think that is more than obvious-
Unlike you, I was calmly, and respectfully defending Mr. Breeden- although I don’t believe he needed my help either. I have been researching the c-ville music scene for awhile- Christian Breeden is fully capable of having an intelligent discourse, I have read several postings by him- they were rather well written and quite rationally debating his stance on an issue-
It is true, Christian was playing that night- this info can be found on the Hook, although I wasn’t sure exactly where he played (thanks Blink) He also has a regular gig playing at the Bel Rio every Thurs.and has played at many different clubs and venues, some now defunct. I am sure locals know him if not by his talents, than by his money and land sale.
Do you honestly think that this somewhat well known artist and musician who would have been easyily reconizable, would have been just hanging out in the parking lot of a Metallica show- scheming on unsuspecting beautiful girls such as Morgan? IMO, and from what I’ve seen online, Mr. Breeden would have no trouble finding a willing participant, a groupie of his own, to spend the time away with-
Mr. Breeden, like most musicians, can be dark and foreboding, his language can be quite strange and offensive- He has used some of the same terms in his advertisements that we have seen Morgan herself use, unicorns ect-
None of this, points to him being the murderer. He builds sculptures and then burns them as bonfires- nothing that strange for an artist IMO-
His troupe plays with fire, very professionally done, I don’t believe any of the fires we have heard tell about, would be accidentally set by anyone associated with him or his band- But having said all this- Is it such a stretch to believe that someone that idolized Mr. Breeden or his troupe picked up Morgan, and in the guise of taking her to the show- would have done something to her? I don’t think so- LOG is a local band, The Dirty Horse is a local band. Is it so far-fetched to believe someone that follows the local scene could have left the Metallica concert early and met up with Morgan?
I have said all along- if it is true that Morgan was at the Metallica concert, and found herself locked out,she was trying to get somewhere- possibly to a show so her night wouldn’t have been a total loss- if she was picked up by a local, someone in the c-ville area- as has been speculated based upon where Morgan was placed, and from what LE and The Harrington’s have said then I believe the answer to the Who? Can be found in the music scene- that does NOT mean I believe a member of LOG or Dirty Horse or Dave Matthews or even Metallica ect did it- but what is so hard for you to see that it most definitely could have been a fan, of bonaroo, or floydfest, or hula hoops or unicorns that Morgan may have met previously ?
dissapointedone, I think you would get your point across much better if you used honey instead of venom as I respectfully value your opinion. I believe each poster here, has their own perspective and I believe it is very important to hear everyone’s perspective’s whether I agree or not – Thanks
You are Switzerland.
One of the many things I heart about you.
B
Juliemooly says March 12, 2010 at 8:21 pm:
Blink, I just looked for the following HH reference and I don’t see it.
“clementine says: March 12, 2010 at 4:50 pm:
“just got off the phone with Scorsese, he said that he was interested in a movie adaptation of my life, as Shutter Island & The Departed weren’t thrilling enough. I guess Directors now agree with all those who have been telling me this for years” — Ian Saul
The abduction scene should be pretty intense.
I wonder who will play the part of the abductee?
Did you review the rest of that “wall” day?
Specifically, the HH reference?
B”
Did you get a screen shot or do you know what it said? I think someone may have deleted it.
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Hi Juliemooly, it wasn’t deleted, it is still there.
It was a comment made by another person under a February posting.
Aww Shucks Blink, I am blushing- Switzerland, I don’t know, but it just makes me sad when someone goes off half-cocked and doesn’t base their rant in facts- I am new to the internet, but I know yelling when I see it and I don’t believe there was any cause to yell.
I don’t want to defend people I don’t know and although it seems as though I am on Mr. Breeden’s side (if he has one) that is not true, I am on Morgan’s side -as I hope everyone that has been following these threads can tell. My previous posts were my attempt to remind posters that although you have mentioned names in this article, you clearly stated that it was written in tribute of Morgan’s “embrace” of music and c-ville’s local artists and venues.
It is true that BOC is full of people trying to help victims of crime and their families get justice, but it is also true that we have all been brought here by your never wavering stance that victims and their families deserve a voice- and IMO you have given them that- to the best of your ability.
Although, it is true that there has been much speculation on Morgan’s threads, Dr. Harrington came here to say thank you and to state that LE finds these articles and the posters comments helpful- So in the end we have all helped in some small way… That is why I keep coming back…Even though I haven’t found Morgan’s killer.
Thanks Blink for doing what you can for Morgan and her family- May we all continue on in our pursuit of justice- RIP Morgan 241
ok, if morgan was going to a local club,1.did she know who was playing where and how to get there?why not get her keys and take her car and come back for crew after metallica let’s out?cuz she knows she can call someone to come get her?cuz someone is already on their way to get her?cuz friends wont give keys to potential drunk drivers?2.she has no idea who is playing ,where,and asks whats going on in town tonight,to which someone replies,i know where so and so is playing lets go ,and morgan goes,but doesnt make it.so if this is the case its someone she happens upon in the rv lot ,but so why is she said to be at copely and ivy hh?so she decides she going to hh to a club she knows,with out her purse and id ,or to jmu,i am now to believe?sorry if this doesnt make sense i am trying to work out how hhiking (as observer and suz suggest) may now be believable,i am finding it less believable.especially if there’s a dude who picked her up and dropped her off ,back at the arena,she hitch hiked from copely and ivy with a stranger to a club AND back,with the same person,come now.she went out on the street and put her thumb out to go to a club with a stranger?
i am wondering if the call at 8:48 did not come from morgan’s phone,as she had dropped her phone and lost the battery,is this possible?
arent clubs 21 and over? she couldnt get in anyway could she?
susanm–re: the phone call at 8:48–
YES, yes! (I say from no vantage point of authority, only an excited brain that agrees with this idea). Makes perfect sense to me (why LE was asking around initially for cell phones borrowed, etc). Where exactly that gets us, I’m not sure. But I think it’s at least a very probable piece to the timeline.
(been a reader/lurker here for a while…don’t seem to have much to add, but enjoy the mental workout. I grew up in C-ville and also went to UVa.)
Susanm – Although it is true that some shows are 21 and up they have all age shows every night of the week- Plus who knows maybe Morgan had a fake I.D She wouldn’t be the first or last- By the way thanks for asking such excellant questions- You to Total you are a true sleuther.
Clementine thanks for the link- Hi back at ya- Your research skills are tremendous-
Eloise- please don’t be embarrassed- it took me forever to figure that function out- when I first saw those I thought they were links to ads.
ConcernedBystander, thanks for the link
I’m a little confused and I hope there are no tomato-throwers in this crowd.
Long, long been on my list of possibles:
Morgan would have had to have something pretty exciting, and thrilling, even, to consider ditching the
concert. Her folks got the tickets, not realizing she was over Metallica already. Her friends did know of her plan to skip out on the concert–witness SS’s disgust at the initial presser and her reluctant searching. They were going to enjoy the concert and why couldn’t Morgan?! Morgan was known to live a little more on the edge than they. Hell, those first pictures of the girls together–uh, which one of these is not like the other, right? Not that the other girls were wearing cowbells, but c’mon.
Stay with me, friends. This is my fear. Morgan wanted to be in a painted body video. She might be willing to trust HH or someone similar to paint her and pose artistically. This is completely speculative and unsubstantiated…That inticement, though, coupled with a chance to party with a band (do some E) would make for a wonderful night! Pre-Gift of Fear.
the most believeable reason for hh ,i can come up with is the injury,coupled with being with the reason for leaving. finds out she didnt get her keys back,lost her cell battery,has no phone for the night, no coat ,wants to call it a night ,get back(home)(being jmu).a girl has to know the risks of hh,if she hh,imo ,the desire or desperation had to outweigh the risks,do you hh to a club,with a stranger,where you have to charm your underage way in ?would you hh to a party?you’d have to know about the party before you hh,you dont stick your thumb out ,have a car pull over and say “hey,where ya going?can i go too?”so who else knew about the party(if thats the case?) where did enquirer’s guy drop her off?
2.ConcernedBystander says:
March 12, 2010 at 10:57 pm
10/17/2009 — Maya – Christian Breeden
http://www.c-ville.com/index.php?cat=141404064507774&CalDate=2009-10-17
TY Concerned.
B
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Thanks to you both for making me feel like an idiot.
I’m tellin’ ya- a couple months ago I checked and there was some confusion as to the date. Maybe it was the Hook site- IDK- whatever. J2K didn’t see it either! LMAO
Blink- I think your latest piece has struck a nerve…or two.
lol, Ya think?
B
B, et al – re: *post-9:30 p.m.* on Oct. 17, 2009
I have observed these murmurs and hints that seem to imply [deep, exasperated breath]… because MH was a huge music fan (like many gals within her demo), the local apex of that scene may be involved in her death. Here’s the disconnect for me:
The Timeline.
The friggin’ official timeline is an effective fly-smasher of many related theories in this regard. Because. Because said timeline diverts her OFF the social map quite *early* in the evening.
No one (who felt safe coming forth) saw this distinctive young girl after about 9:30 p.m. that night. CBreed and his band – wherever they were playing that Sat night (*if* playing somewhere) — were setting up/checking sound; as were so many other artists some of us have zeroed in on in that regard.
But. Whomever picked MH up before 10 p.m. removed her from the broad, well-populated social map of that evening in CVille…. and *that* is significant in and of itself.
B says: “We do not know where Morgan was from 9:30PM, to presumably, dawn (my opinion). Seems like the music circuit is the best place to start, as I do believe you have been ‘of the mind’ for some time.”
Here’s what we *do* know: NO ONE saw MH after 9:30 p.m. – no one who willingly came forth to LE, anyway. That means she was NOT at a show/did not go to a party/did not try to cajole her way past a bouncer at a local bar that Sat night… I could go on.
She got into a car with either a single or multiple actors in her demise – and no one helpful encountered her from that point forward. This eliminates for me anyone playing music in town that night/anyone who saw Metallica; and only points to anyone who claims to have done *nothing* that night between 9 p.m. and, say, midnight/into the next day.
If these types of social trackers/2.0-sites had existed when I was MH’s age, it would be clear that my friends and I looooved live music, and saw it whenever we could get to an all-ages show, or someone could get us/me into a bar featuring such, or, of course attend. I was at All-Good shows, several Bonnaroos, Phish’s Lemon Wheel, and similar fare. … All that means is that I was a liberal, adventurous, open-minded chick, who was always game for a fun venue that would serve as yet another reason to party with abandon in my bare feet.
But. MH did not disappear amongst a scene; she disappeared attempting to *leave* a scene.
Anyone we’ve traced who was in a typical music zone in Cville that night – and let’s face it: they all started around 9:30 p.m the earliest, except for the big arena metal concert – is likely no part of the car/carload whom picked her up at that time. This is why it must be so tempting to keep bringing up the discredited newspaper lady: 3:30/45 a.m. – on campus… sooo much easier to work with than the reality of the sitch, right?
Sorry, people; that – well, that was quite simply not an aspect of her night. The silence – or absence – of any other related witnesses to such ERADICATES this as a possibility. The last time MH was seen by anyone other than the person/those responsible for her death was before most young people in that area had even solidified their plans for the night.
She could have preferred opera and Ovaltine… yet still met the same fate — if she decided to hoof it on her own that night while under the influence: it was about who she spontaneously *chose* to engage with, rather than who she *usually* engaged with. And I believe the disconnect lies here.
*Who* picked up a girl on Copeley Road as they ventured forth into the early Saturday night? This was not in their original plans for said evening – nor were they expected by anyone… who was not eventually involved/aware of the crime.
The answer – I submit – lies not within the groovy musical landscape occurring simultaneously in Cville as she perhaps gasped her last breath; the answer is *who* operated outside of it… before it even began.
Respectfully J2K, I am simply offering that the possible reason for Morgan’s familiarity with someone (s) may have been established at a musical event as a baseline commonality. I don’t think we are going to find the bassist from groupx who missed the last set on the “night in question” situation. ( Before any is tempted to think I dropped a hint, NO.)
In her condition, and I do believe she was impaired via the combination of alcohol and the fall in the bathroom, I still maintain she is not going off with a complete stranger.
Your right that newspaper lady and music critique ( there’s that word again) stories stay compelling.
B
fwiw
snip
“We now can confirm that she was hitchhiking,” says Geller, noting that Harrington, who had been stuck outside the John Paul Jones Arena after she was denied reentry and had told friends by cellphone that she’d find her own way home, was allegedly seen by multiple witnesses on both sides of the bridge.
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Geller says police also want to hear from anyone who may have allowed a young woman to borrow their cell phone to make a call the night of the concert.
“We don’t have any evidence she made other calls,” Geller says, “but we’d like to know.”
http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2009/11/13/hitchhiking-missing-morgan-harrington-still-missing-sought-a-ride/
blink i hope you are feeling better and getting well, but i gotta say…
quoting b “In her condition, and I do believe she was impaired via the combination of alcohol and the fall in the bathroom, I still maintain she is not going off with a complete stranger.”
there seems to be, imo, a credible account of mh extending an arm to a complete stranger that called his gf in shock. do you discredit this account? or have another explanation for what happened?
i think there is familiarity too and music seems at or near the top of the list.
I think until I know the guys name and can run it down, everything and everyone that claims to have come in contact with her that evening is in play.
B
Word Girl, you said
“Stay with me, friends. This is my fear. Morgan wanted to be in a painted body video. She might be willing to trust HH or someone similar to paint her and pose artistically.”
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WG, I am not about to throw tomatoes … I’m with you here, and it is why I ask, again, whether anyone knows if Morgan actively pursued modeling. Did she want to put together a portfolio? Did she seek out any photographers (other than her brother)? Did she get or want to get connected, via the very musical scenes Blink discusses, to any photographers?
I know she was a fan of that Alison Harvard from Next Top Model, and I’ve seen Alex’s pictures of her … thus my questions. It may feel like a stretch to some of you, but until we get a “no,” I believe it’s worth exploring.
Did Raw Dog perform in C-ville or elsewhere on Oct. 17, 2009 ?
I would add to J2K’s 6:22 am post above that if we are to postulate Morgan’s killer(s) were C-ville popular music scene participators, then we should be asking locals this:
Who were you expecting to see at a venue/concert/bar/arena on the night of October 17th, 2009, that DID NOT show up? Whether they were supposed to be setting up for a band, attending a show, dj-ing, bartending, lighting fires, hula-hooping, selling dope, dancing, drinking, cleaning up or just hanging out, who didn’t make it? Or who was missing for an extended period of time during the evening?
anotherb –
you just got my attention with your paper lady’s account of her morgan sighting and the different clothes discounted her tip
we all know how some pedophiles often change kids’ shoes and even hair color when they are kidnapped?? these are usually the seasoned pedos who want to play with their prey like a cat plays with his doomed mouse.
now i am not saying that the evil bad boy changed morgan’s clothes, but she could’ve changed herself either for comfort or whatever…or even just wearing a dude’s coat over her clothes. i dunno. just sayin
oh, and one more thing about cb playing at maya on the 17th. it is important to know if he was alone or playing with backup. he was listed as solo. that leaves room for “unknowns” to play as backup in a legit gig. some musicians would jump at that chance. could it be that a fan of gojira and log had free tickets from a radio show (localville herself posed this scenario), and had to leave to either play backup or help set up for a 10:30 show?
I still say she was forcibly abducted, possibly by gunpoint (or at knifepoint), or simply grabbed, in the vicinity of Lannigan Field. I do not believe she was hitchhiking. I also think this is the only reasonable explanation for her purse and cell found in Lannigan Field, which in my mind, suggests a brief struggle. I also do not believe the perp returned to drop her stuff off, especially when he had the remote calm of Anchorage Farm to dispose of her belongings.
I have a question: how empty/busy is Lannigan Field/Uhaul area during the evening of big concerts?
oh dag blink -
i forgot to address your comment about those that adapt. so right you are and that further supports a two man show with one having a markedly higher iq. this would have evolved (devolved) into something akin to “wicked attraction”
It is very much my opinion, yes. I am also of the opinion there is dissention right now over fear one will crack. He will.
B
J2K – I am completely with you, there is no way she was in a public place after 9:30. Those responsible for her death were the only ones with her.
I am, however, not completely convinced she would not have gone with a stranger. Again, we have NOT been completely clued-into to her mindset that evening (i.e. what she may have been under the influence of besides alcohol). Some of her “poor” decisions, however, leading up to 9:30 indicate to me she may not have had a sound mind.
I can’t totally discount Blink’s association, however, some concrete proof would be nice. For example, what was specifically stated between her and the basketball players?
There are too many “what ifs” in this case to make any logical associations unfortunately. This is what is most frustrating.
We agree she was not in a public place after 9:30, but for me, that does not preclude that it was the eventual intention and something went awry at another location.
I guess I also have to include that maybe Morgan recognized someone and it was mistaken ID, but that is not my personal belief.
B
21.juliemooly says:
March 13, 2010 at 10:35 am
I would add to J2K’s 6:22 am post above that if we are to postulate Morgan’s killer(s) were C-ville popular music scene participators, then we should be asking locals this:
Who were you expecting to see at a venue/concert/bar/arena on the night of October 17th, 2009, that DID NOT show up? Whether they were supposed to be setting up for a band, attending a show, dj-ing, bartending, lighting fires, hula-hooping, selling dope, dancing, drinking, cleaning up or just hanging out, who didn’t make it? Or who was missing for an extended period of time during the evening
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VERY good point, Julie.
Blink, Does LE know who the kickee is? I would imagine they do since the reporter that interviewed him , spoke with him. He declined to give his name if I remember correctly. Can’t we ask the reporter?
That has been done, and Ms. Stuart declined to name the source, which I defend, btw, major no-no.
B
J2K says: March 13, 2010 at 6:22 am
“Here’s what we *do* know: NO ONE saw MH after 9:30 p.m. – no one who willingly came forth to LE, anyway. That means she was NOT at a show/did not go to a party/did not try to cajole her way past a bouncer at a local bar that Sat night… I could go on.”
Respectfully J2K, I submit that even though they have not amended their official timeline to include sightings of Morgan after 9:30 pm, LE may have credible and/or verified information regarding her post 9:30 pm activities and have chosen not to make them public. This info could be from sources that came forward willingly and/or from sources identified via their own independent investigations.
We definitely do not know all LE knows, therefore, I don’t believe we can effectively with 100% accuracy determine if Morgan was or wasn’t seen in public after 9:30 pm on October 17. Thus, everything, everywhere and everybody is still on the table.
Keekee, LMAO, I have not seen the expression “oh dag” in many years. I am going to revive it with your permission [if I can just remember to not use it in front of my kids, who believe Mom knows no slang
].
JulieMooley, you reframed things with the following queries, and I think it’s brilliant. Am re-posting to try to keep your line of questions alive on the next page for any who visit Blink’s house:
JulieMooley asks, “Who were you expecting to see at a venue/concert/bar/arena on the night of October 17th, 2009, that DID NOT show up? Whether they were supposed to be setting up for a band, attending a show, dj-ing, bartending, lighting fires, hula-hooping, selling dope, dancing, drinking, cleaning up or just hanging out, who didn’t make it? Or who was missing for an extended period of time during the evening?”
I want ONE person who knew Morgan to say that she had hitch-hiked in the past. Then I’ll buy it.
LE has been very careful as to what they release- so I don’t know why I don’t buy it. Maybe they DO have multiple credible witnesses who saw her HH.
I guess trying to wrap my brain around the incredible amount of “bad-luck” it would take to fulfill that scenario is the problem. I mean seriously, she falls and hits her head- gets locked out of the concert- her phone dies- and the first time in her life she tries to hitch a ride- a rapist/murderer picks her up. IDK.
My other big problem with the HH hypothesis is the location of the purse. How would a random person who picked her up down by the intersection of Ivy Rd know where to throw her purse? Why would they even risk being seen to plant it there? The purse tells me it was someone that knew she was in that RV lot. Someone who needed to be able to say: “I dropped her off there -or- I left her there”. To me, that is the ONLY reason to risk going back there.
Like I said in a previous post, this case is so overwhelmingly confounding because for every hypothesis, there is a witness or fact that doesn’t fit. It’s maddening.
blink says: “I guess I also have to include that maybe Morgan recognized someone and it was mistaken ID, but that is not my personal belief.
B ”
You know, I have a real-life example of this, but with roles reversed. In the summer between high school and college one of my best friends was driving on a foggy, misty night. He saw a hitch hiker who he thought was person he recognized, assumed he must have had car trouble, and picked him up. Well, the hitch hiker was an unknown, a criminal who drove him around at gun point for several hours. My friend finally ran out of gas and got away at a gas station.
It’s possible Morgan saw a vehicle containing someone she thought she recognized, stuck her thumb out playfully, and got in to a death trap instead of a safe person’s vehicle. If she was impaired by alcohol, drugs, and/or the head injury, it could have taken her too long to realize her mistake to get out of the car before being subdued by force or threat of force, especially if there was more than one person in the vehicle.
It may seem incredibly random to us, but when you look at the number of registered sex offenders on the VSP website, multiply that times the number that aren’t registered, and add the dark, rainy weekend night outside-a-packed-concert-venue variable to the equation, it’s really not that improbable.
If Morgan was hitching on the side of the bridge which contains the memorial and a car picked her up on that same side of the street, the car would be headed toward JPJ and toward a left turn into the RV lot. Murderer could have picked her up, whipped into RV lot, struggled, thrown out purse, etc, continued on away from Copley Rd back behind athletic fields beside the railroad tracks to finish the murder, then proceed to Anchorage farm to dispose of body (choosing that spot randomly or by choice). This would mean that Morgan’s being in RV lot before hitching was coincidence or she was seen there after hitching with those who did her in. The purse being discarded at the outset precludes debit card use, as the debit card was found with purse. Debit card use has only been surmised because of Dr. Harrington’s no comment, right?
Were there RV’s parked in the RV lot that night? Does anybody know? Skyler, do you remember seeing RV’s there? IDK, she dissappeared into thin air, she was seen in RV lot, somebody(s) partying in a nice RV with not so nice intentions.
total amateur, she could have dropped her purse. There were witnesses who said she dropped it several times in the parking lot. It sounds like she may have been really messed up, feeling ill and out of sorts.
Obviously (and thankfully) I haven’t had a day that that ended in my abduction and murder, but I certainly have had days where everything seemed to go wrong, just one thing after the other, so I don’t find it the least bit unbelievable that she could have had a run of incredibly bad luck that night. The BG obviously (in my book) sized up her condition and took advantage.
No way Morgan was at a public venue after leaving JPJ.
I think the likelihood of heading to another gig is relevant. The debit card usage (if true) points to being with someone who wasn’t initially thinking murder- because he was willing to stop. It also points to “pre-gaming”- which is a term youngsters use to describe hanging out somewhere to start drinking/drugging before going to bars or clubs. The “cool” kids don’t head to the venue an hour before the show that starts at 10:30. They go hang out somewhere in a small group, get buzzed, and show up “fashionably late” around 11:00 when the place is already jumpin’. It is in this time period that something may have happened.
I’d really like to know if the camera was found too. If they took her camera- there had to be a reason. Either the perp(s) were on it because Morgan was at one point having fun and snapping pictures- or for more untoward reasons that I previously mentioned.
Hi Blink. Nice to see that you are up and about.
I know you are an extremely busy person, and I don’t want to bother you with gibberish, although a lot of others don’t seem to mind that
It appears to me that my post on 1:43 p.m. on 3/9 was never actually posted. A follow-up post by me still awaits moderation. Since you didn’t allow it to be posted actually sends a very loud message; that is, you must have “proof” that the person who abducted MH is local, and that there is no inking on your part that it could possibly have been someone from out-of-state — not even remotely possible. What I mean by “proof” is of a substantiated scientific nature, not a comment passed to you by LE — cause, we all know LE will lie. During an interrogation, for example, lying happens in every police department in the U.S. It is part and parcel of the interrogation process. So if you have scientific proof that the bad guy(s) is local, then I can understand why you didn’t post my referenced comment, and we, in fact, communicated without communicating. But in my opinion, if you don’t have substantiated scientific proof, it is still in. Not out means it is still in — as is said in BOC land
Mr. Bathtub guy is supposedly so on top of the CVille scene, right? The concert was probably at the top of the list of CVille happenings that night. So, it would not be too far stretched to think that Mr. Bathtub guy was there and also at prior “hot” events in the area that Morgan may have attended.
We know he has a criminal history which includes abduction, domestic assault and drugs and that the abduction and domestic both occured in 2009.
He runs a website covering the happening of CVille.
He is FB friends with Christian Breeden.
Christian Breeden’s band was playing that night.
So, it actually does seem possible to me that Morgan knew him from a prior event at an aquintance level, maybe he had his girfriend with him (that, per facebook, he has been dating since May 2009), maybe Morgan knew that he ran a website, felt “comfortable” or safe with him, he tells her that Breeden’s band is also playing and that he can introduce her to the band being that he knows them, and Morgan goes with him.
B’s quote said, “In her condition, and I do believe she was impaired via the combination of alcohol and the fall in the bathroom…”
I thought she fell in front of the stage while taking pictures?
4 members of The Dirty Horse = possible MIB
That has been done, and Ms. Stuart declined to name the source, which I defend, btw, major no-no.
B
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Is she obligated to give his identity to LE? Can they subpoena her testimony- i.e. force her to divulge the information? I would think it would be obstruction to have information possibly pertaining to a homicide and not provide the information. If it’s not- it should be.
That has been done, and Ms. Stuart declined to name the source, which I defend, btw, major no-no.
B
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Is she obligated to give his identity to LE? Can they subpoena her testimony- i.e. force her to divulge the information? I would think it would be obstruction to have information possibly pertaining to a homicide and not provide the information. If it’s not… it should be.
I am certain if it were case sensitive Ms. Stuart would put it in the appropriate hands, she is well respected.
B
Gil Harrington’s thoughts from March 12th, 2010
Oh Dear Gil.
Our hearts are breakin with you!
J4M-our “shiny” girl!
Gifter3
March 12, 2010
I know we will be OK. That in no way diminishes the pain this murderer has inflicted on us, but rather is a testimonial to the closeness and love that we share. I see only three options and only one of them that I can embrace:
1. Crash and burn – I won’t let him kill us too.
2. Paralysis – I won’t let him damage us, nor compound the loss of Morgan’s potential with the loss of our potential.
3. Soldier on – we will continue to move forward, haltingly, even stumbling, even crawling – forward. We will take what has been dealt us and be open-minded and creative and fashion new lives. This is undoubtedly the hardest task, but the only way I see some chance of salvation/reconciliation/peace.
I believe this. I know it to be true, and STILL I feel the rage. Why? I have many parallel emotions.
The anger is extinguished by the knowing – it is; the irrevocable primal knowing – the feel of the dry husks of your ribs. I cannot rage against such steadfast reality. To do so is wasted effort, foolish like raging against a mountain or a rock. It is what it is and will not change. Morgan is dead – Gil accept this truth.
2 4 1
Just connecting the degrees of separation in regards to people and land…Elizabeth Breeden and Nancy Bass both are participants together in the Creative Conversation organized by the Piedmont Council of the Arts as seen on
http://www.cvillepodcast.com/2009/02/03/pca_conversation_january_2009/
It’s no surprise that they would know each other being artists and such..On another subject because another Blinkster mentioned it…I would like to see the music video shot that had to be made in Virginia Beach? What was going on there in off season that it was out of the way? Who else was involved in that video shooting production?
Who provided the music, who helped?
I believed I posted that footage on here, no?
B
total amateur—Maddening, indeed! But here’s the thing….you asked, “My other big problem with the HH hypothesis is the location of the purse. How would a random person who picked her up down by the intersection of Ivy Rd know where to throw her purse?” We don’t know if she still had her purse when she was picked up. She very well could have dropped it. In fact, that makes the most sense to me.
Here’s how I’ve come to terms with the “madness” in all these pieces that don’t fit. If you look at every thing that happened to Morgan that night with the idea that she was heavily under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs, it suddenly starts to make sense.
1) She fell. (disorientation from too much alcohol or drugs)
2) She left the arena, went outside. (drugs made her sick, she needed fresh air, was disoriented)
3) She talked to strangers, latched arms with kickee, kicked kickee. (drug induced behavior)
4) She withstood the cold, damp air outside for at least an hour. (alcohol dulls the senses)
5) She repeatedly dropped her purse. (loss of physical control/coordination from alcohol/drugs)
6) She hitchhiked. (loss of rational “safe” thinking due to alcohol/drugs)
The sequence of events make a lot more sense when you apply the influence of drugs. It also helps make sense of the friends behavior too…if they were equally under the influence.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: In no way do I feel that Morgan’s situation is any justification for the actions of the perpetrator that took advantage of her.
Just digging for insight into an artist…
C.B does like his guns as posted at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dO-FRLXJpg
Here’s a equinox bonfire prep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9OEx80PjXM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJFJXflFVvI
Where are these houses in these videos located I wonder?
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheScintillation#p/a/u/2/CzLyF8aAWsU
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheScintillation#p/a/u/1/8qrQnIG8sVo
Yes, did you happen to notice the title of the last one???
“Morgan Up from Blacksburg”.
That video was shot over Thanksgiving, and there is no Morgan in that troupe, so go figure.
B
Yea, TOTAL AMATEUR: Let’s call in the Texas Rangers!! They only go by the “evidence”. Also, A very violent, dangerous RSO, ( minor or not), would not be a concern to the public after the FIRST offense!! I just have little confidence the LE professionally investigated this from the begnning. What did they over-look that would have been a great clue to move this case forward? This could be the “link” that would clear up this case. Too late? IDK. But all these PC tecniques will never get us where we need to go!! And , that is to the truth!! The last, absolutely clear people to see her, were WHO? She left Roanoke when? That’s where (((This starts)))!! Forget the concert? And, before? Oh, I don’t think so! Why would LE want us too????
PM1 you wrote in part:
J2K says: March 13, 2010 at 6:22 am
“Here’s what we *do* know: NO ONE saw MH after 9:30 p.m. – no one who willingly came forth to LE, anyway. That means she was NOT at a show/did not go to a party/did not try to cajole her way past a bouncer at a local bar that Sat night… I could go on.”
We definitely do not know all LE knows, therefore, I don’t believe we can effectively with 100% accuracy determine if Morgan was or wasn’t seen in public after 9:30 pm on October 17. Thus, everything, everywhere and everybody is still on the table.
-I have to agree with PM1
Also-
We must remember out of THOUSANDS of people attending the Metallica concert and many others working the venue, plus those who were at BB practice, in the lots, around the area- only a FEW actually came forward and said they POSSIBLY encountered Morgan – and out of those few, even less went on the record and then -out of those, the BBP WT DW We didn’t get an account of exactly what was said- DG is the only one that gave an exact account of His interaction with Morgan- and even he did not go into details- what she was wearing- where they were parked- ect
So the last account of Morgan was on the bridge- (who said this) but that does not mean that Morgan never went anywhere after the bridge- it was dark it was raining- her hair her makeup was changed by the weather- She may have removed her tights, put her hair up- swapped shirts We don’t Know- But what we do know is -people do not always notice or remember people- especially in darkened places such as clubs- especially while they are drinking, having a good time- So I have to say someone may have seen Morgan out and about in a club at a party- and they just don’t know that they saw her.- Also we must remember- some people avoid opening their mouths – they mind their own business- no matter what- perhaps one of these kind people saw her- or perhaps someone isn’t sure if they saw her and don’t want to risk looking like an idiot- so they don’t call in the tip- it happens.
In other words we don’t know-