Morgan Harrington Case: Exploring The Musical Connections
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Upon the recovery of Morgans remains, many parallels of her life reflected her love of the musical community in general, but also, the surrounding venues she attended previously, such as bonnaroo, allgood, the rooster walk, and floydfest. Charlottesville is rife with heritage, musical talent, eclectic artisans and those wanting to be a part of it, nightly, across the vast bucolic landscape. As a tribute to Morgan Harrington’s love of the Indi music scene, blinkoncrime.com will explore some of the culture and artists she embraced.
The Dirty Horse Featuring Charlotteville’s own Christian Breeden of Biscuit Run fame…The Dirty Horse. Coincidentally, TDH played at Maya the evening of October 17, 2009. The Dirty Horse, is a fan-staple of CVille, although development plans for Biscuit Run into a State Park through it’s purchase by VDOT may make Breeden more of a Crozet staple, closer to his other residence. Members are Breeden, Ariel Vegodsky, Mike McCue and Brian Massie . Christian, former front man for American Dumpster and son of late acclaimed sculptor David Breeden, is a renaissance of Bohemian royalty with talents ranging from sculptor, bike builder, artist, musician, photographer and self proclaimed Junkyard Spirit conjurer. Breeden’s latest endeavor, The Equinocalypse, celebrating the melting away of Winter and “new life” promises for Spring, is the invitation of the season to party “carny style”.
Party Liberation Front Now Here is a Gig. Resist the urge to think this is pledge week. Tis not. The Pyro laced gala will also be dj’d by Richmonds’ own FunkFriar John Reinhold and Conway Jennings. While “THE JOHN” is dragging up the long bar from Richmond, you can catch a listen to his mixjo here. As far as non-harvest, middle of the woods socials go- this may be the actual farmville, but with F I R E.
Pre Sentencing Report No doubt the Cvillain, edited by bathtub shroom purveyor and recently convicted *man about Cville* music, eatery and libation scene, Ian Saul, will be covering the “equal night”. It is not known if he will be using the ritual to influence any sort of leniency for a light sentencing on March 31. Regardless of his pending matters which one can observe daily on his facebook, Ian manages to personally attend and cover every evenings soiree in the ville.
Bring It and Sling It Carcinogen friendly preffered. BYOH.. Bring your own hula. Not to be confused with bring your own hooka. I am thinking fresh aire contact-hooka will suffice. BE CREATIVE. Fire-laced, dayglo, neon, light-sticks-strung-together, you are defined by your HOOP here and you don’t want anyone to think your a first timer. Or Not. You could certainly simply don your best minotaur frock and arrive fashionably equine. I have decided I will be attending dressed as Sukie Stackhouse, immediately following my dip in the soaking tub with my ammonium bicarbonate bath fizzies. Contributing Editor: Elizabeth Morton Images Courtesy of Klaasend
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“John says:
March 15, 2010 at 6:39 pm
KeeKee, do not feel bad. B does not post any of my letters.
The people at findMorgan.com (some of them) state that this site is sophomorish (I looked the term up in the dictionary, and I have to agree with them) Some of the posts here go on and on and on and on and on about nothing at all. Some are silly.”
John: I do not know whether to laugh or cry at you? So, I am sending you Webster’s New Pocket Dictionary, so that you may never NOT have a term at your fingertips!
And, while I’m at it, let me drone on and on about the first true love of my life…Mr. Bret Michaels. Yes, the very same one that my beloved Miss Sklyer is mentioning. Although, she at times is a bit forgetful about which one of us says what! Silly, Sky. We love her anyway! Oh, another thing before I go…What has your panties in a bunch, Dear, John? I cannot imagine what it is? We have all tried to be patient, kind, caring, compassionate, and yes, challenging. You must not have read many posts here and certainly not mine. You are starting to piss on my late night cheerios, my dear man.
Please, it is love here and the work of a victim’s advocate!
Named whats-her-name! The only thing that I know is that I am living proof of her integrity!!!
in*teg’ri*ty n. 1 honesty, sincerity, etc. 2 wholeness.
This woman has stood beside those of us, latenight, when Morgan was found. She never judged, just talked us through it and when it was too late and the sun was coming up, she gave us all peace of mind to rest! We listened because of her committment and her 18 hour days!
Sorry to drone on and on but see, I believe that we are not only trying to help find Morgan’s killers but we are also on here to celebrate her life. Her beautiful, shiny life!
We all are here for the only victim I know of on this specific thread…
Morgan Dana Harrington
beloved daughter of
Dr. and Mrs. Dan & Gil Harrington
and her beloved brother
Mr. Alex J. Harrington
your sophomorish-fish
p.s. if this site doesn’t work for you then just turn the channel!
nobody said you had to love me!
juliemooley- Ditto I too look forward to others thoughts on the shirt after a good nights sleep-
Just a thought before hopefully getting just that-
In a press conference Lt Rader referenced having physical evidence- He said what he meant by that was shirt or blood- I remember bringing it up here- and asking whether or not Morgan’s shirt was found- Does anyone remember that?
Tomorrow I will go back and search for the press conference- Good night all
No, but you never miss anything so I would not be surprised.
B
B and all: Would you imagine that VSP “vetted” Karen55, who stated she saw Morgan in Orange County, VA? Maybe she was starting to cover for someone. Yes, that early on. Confuse everyone and take them away from the direction they needed to go in?
Just a thought. Remember, all’s in until somebody out!
keekee(or anyone)- In your digging, have you found connections between Cheddar Jumpsuit and any of the people mentioned in Blink’s most recent article? Was he a “regular” at any of the shows? Although, I wouldnt think an RSO would supposed to be going to bars- especially if on probation. I’m sure that doesn’t stop some of them.
What a minute…Can I change my mind!
I was on that search and I can tell you that I know of 4 maybe 5, people on this site that were also on that search and not for one minute do I think that anyone of us was or is immature or “sophomorish”!
I know of one of us that I have kept in contact with and they agree with me. They do not post anywhere just talk amongst ourselves. Let us not count out Skyler, who was not only at the JPJA, guiding her son but on that very bridge within minutes of Morgan.
So, to anyone that wants to URP up pure crap…BITE ME!
sorry B, now I feel better. Rest and Gnite!
May there be no rest for the wicked!
Blink- Do you think the witness is wrong about the t-shirt having images, or did LE purposely misidentify the shirt to vet witnesses?
Yes, got it, but not sure what feedback your looking for, I have seen that individual state publicly they dont think that subject is involved.
B
Phyl -
Your post made me smile. Probably because you described me to a tee. Let’s see…
Non linear thinker – check
ADD – check
Stays up waaay too late plugging in search terms like you suggest because she’s convinced she will find the missing piece on the Internet -check
Can you say hyperfocus?? good grief.
The location of the shirt points to students. Thus, if it truly was planted, it would indicate to me that it was an attempt to put suspicion on students.
BeenThere, if you click on the “Tools” icon on the upper right side of your computer screen, then click on internet options, then click on delete browsing history, then click on delete all, then click on yes, the next time you leave a comment you will be prompted to put your name in. After that, your new name will be remembered when you are on BOC. The only caution is that other browsing history memory will also be deleted so you may want to check on the microsoft website to make sure you want to do this. I clear my browing history every few days.
Question about polygraphs. Hypothetical – Mr. X is taking a polygraph because his whereabouts on the night a crime was committed are in question. Mr. X has professed his lack of involvement but has implicated Mr. Y as the BG and made other questionable statements regarding said crime.
Can or would investigators ask questions during this polygraph to determine if Mr. X is being truthful about his accusations regarding Mr. Y? If Mr. X’s answers were measured as truthful, could investigators legally use these answers as a means to begin building a case against Mr. Y? Perhaps as a starting point?
Polygraphs are designed to ascertain if a subject is deceptive.
If I understand your question properly, your asking if a witness implicates another and is found to NOT be deceptive can investigators use that to begin questioning the implicated suspect?
Yes, they can, but I doubt that result alone would be enough to net any warrants prior to interview.
B
Hmmm. The shirt never felt to me like anything related. Still doesn’t, according to my gut, but of course I’m curious as to why Blink thinks it has merit. And I tend not to think the purse was planted, but I’m open minded about it all, cuz how can you not be when we have such scant facts to go on? I wonder if we will ever know the full story of what happened that night.
Blink, how is your head?
Thick.
Ask around, lol.
B
Long time lurker here…..
As I am not a regular contributor here I really have no right to place the following request, but I’m going to anyway, how about that?!
PLEASE stop fighting amongst yourselves! I can’t stand the findmorgan.com site for this very reason- everyone crying and whining and fighting over stupid sh*t. Knowing that Dan Harrington has to sort through all that kind of crap to get to the information he so desperately desires makes me cringe. Knowing that Morgan’s family has to read pages and pages of squabbles and egos and nastiness on web pages that are dedicated to helping find the person responsible for the murder of their daughter PAINS me. In my mind’s eye I see Mr. Harrington at the computer banging his hands on the desk in frustration.
I personally consider this a much more serious site than others dedicated to the cause, with much more mature and thoughtful conversation and ideas being tossed around. Don’t start down the slippery slope of hiding behind the anonymity of the keyboard and snip-snapping at one another out in cyberspace.
I think it’s best to leave this current situation as it is. You don’t even need to go as far as agreeing to disagree, just drop it and move on or move out.
Please. Very sincerely, please.
Yep.
B
Gil Harrington would have known if the design of the shirt was consistent with the one Morgan wore.
Was the shirt tested for DNA?
Those who feel the shirt is NOT Morgan’s, what are your reasons?
keekee, let it go, really, it’s not worth it.
J2K, thanks for the clarification. Your point regarding LE not wanting to put information out that could prejudice the investigation has me convinced.
B, please make the Daisy girl go away….I’m scared WAHHHH!!!
Sorry about that, I never thought I would have to say this, but as always, I welcome respectful difference of opinion and challenges to information in an effort to progress a case. Frankly, critical thinking pathways require it.
However-
Those who think it their job to snivel and make me and readers and posters here wrong for their own agenda will need to do it elsewhere.
I think it is a fair criticism of me that I let way too much fly on here to be fair to opposing sides and while I do not want a site where everyone agrees on everything , the negative energy is a drain, so I am cutting it off.
The sun is shining in Jersey this morning for the first time in weeks, shiny like Miss Morgan.
B
This shirt was supposedly found when? On Jan 27 or 28? Just after the body?
No definitive date released, approximate is first week of November.
B
So many missing women from that area!
http://peacecommunities.org/lovepeaceandjoy/?p=100
Blink,
A little OT but, I just want to thank you for all you do for those without a voice. Because of what happened to Morgan and all the good you do here, you have given me the confidence to take a step I was hesitant to take. The other day I forwarded the petition that Palerider wrote for changes with violent sexual offenders to Monica Caison. I live close to CUE and have wanted to volunteer there for some time but never had the nerve to approach her. At the bottom of my e-mail to her I offered my myself to her in any way she could use me. I’m not physically able to go on searches but would be willing to do anything behind the scenes needed. Anyway, she got back to me and invited me to the 4 day conference this weekend and I signed up. there will be many families there to give their insight including Mr. Klass, Brittanee’s Mom and Morgan’s parents. I just wanted to thank you and Morgan for giving the confidence I needed to help in any way I can.
2 4 1 Morgan
Kathy
AAAAWWWWEEESSSSOOOOMMMMEEEE!!!
This is what I do this work for. Monica Caison is the best, you will learn from her and enjoy her immensely.
Tell her hey from Blink
B
susanm—I’m following your thoughts on the clothing. I also wondered about the underwear. If *all* of her clothing was removed from her body (either before or after death) what does that tell us about the crime and the criminal? Who would completely strip down his victim?
bluewillow, I am skeptical of the shirt because of my gut reaction, mainly (how’s that for solid reasoning?) and because descriptions of the shirts sounded different and because some sources say it was found in jan after the body, but Blink (and I think an article I saw somewhere) said it was closer to when she disappeared. I don’t know if it’s real, a hoax, or just a total rumor, but i’m willing to entertain theories on what it might be doing there, if hers.
cadillac says: I am sorry to say this AGAIN – but there seems to be the gerbil wheel going round and round over and over. One day we are headed to the right and the next day to the left, I am losing track of where we are going…
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Just stay put…we’ll be back to get you on the next lap.
Lol, well said.
The shirt changes things for me, not inasmuch as profile, but the margin for error in subjects.
Perhaps for some it is easier to focus on items than people.
If we believe it was her shirt, then what?
Honestly, for me, when I think tshirt displayed on 1 of 3 bushes in front of someone’s apartment, I am thinking that is a jealous girlfriend move.
Did someone “learn what he did”?
B
Phyl-Any missing person is one too many, but other than Morgan, the people listed here are not from “this area”, being Charlottesville/Albemarle and adjacent counties. I do find it VERY troubling that so many are missing from within the boundaries of Virginia, especially toward the southwest. I hope more information is released soon about Kristan Fox, and I have heard nothing about the investigation into the death of Cassandra Morton. The same applies to the murders of Childs and Metzler. I see on various sites that it is thought Professor Salottos’ status from Sweet Briar College could be a possible suicide. I don’t know why that theory was advanced since I see nothing indicating she has been located. It seems that very little information about these and other cases makes it to Charlottesville. Maybe more is known in the more immediate vicinities.
A news story appeared yesterday on local newscasts about a woman’s body being found in Augusta County. Information so far has been very limited, but the medical examiner has stated there is no evidence of foul play. Her name has not been released, but apparently her identity is known since the report says potential family members have been notified. There is also a male exchange student missing from VCU in Richmond. I think initial thoughts are that he might have met with an accident while biking, but so far, nothing has been discovered.
I am on record stating I think Augusta Cty, the area of the NC border has a serial killer problem preying on very young girls with hidden or known current or previous drug problems.
I do not believe that has anything to do with Morgan, however.
B
Regarding the music scene: I’m actually not getting that anyone is suspecting an actual band member. However, I can see a hanger-on. A peripheral person, as someone mentioned. Even some less professional groups there are some.. undependable people.
My husband played in a band at some big name local clubs back in the early/mid 90′s. Although his group is professionally trained , serious musicians, there was the one guy who was not dependable, and often high. There were also the ‘friends’ that helped out cause it was cool to hang with a band. A few were not dependable, to say the least.
In a similar situation, I would be able to say, ‘yeah, so-n-so didn’t show up last night’ and although it may not be out of character… the fact he didn’t show and there’s a girl missing…. Musicians create an element of creativity and self-expression, as Blink has really opened our minds (what a rich cultural experience is to be had in that town!). A select few of their audience may choose to express themselves in a deviant manner.
To TA, re 45. March 15, 2010 at 11:57 pm
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I know, interesting about that January return visit, which was handled and/or reported in C-ville so bizarrely that I dismissed it.
Of note: one of the interviewees is from Fluvanna Co. That throws my initial impression that the Hook had interviewed a University kid solely in C’ville for school. They also interviewed a well-known guy from the band Bella Morte. In other words, though it’s an apt complex used by UVa students, it also houses folks with connections beyond UVa. It should go without saying that I do NOT imply any knowledge on the part of those two (!) and mention them purely to illustrate the potential for many beyond-University connections in that area. Some locals consider the University, esp. the students, so separated from the community …
Also curious, remember, is that that one RSO working nearby became unemployed, at least according to the registry, shortly after all this. Did he *do* something to lose his job, or did it become important to his family(= employer?) to disconnect him from that part of town? Or both?
I think either of Sudafed’s scenarios (3/15 @11:39 pm) works, plus we need to look at other possible connex b/n that 15th and Grady location and North Garden (maybe just AF, but maybe also the 1800 block of Red Hill Rd and Sutherland Rd locations).
Blink – Do you believe this is someone who is an experienced murderer? From the placement of the body in a secluded location, the scattering of personal belongings, it would appear that this person(s) was quite systematic in their behavior.
That is an excellent question. However, your going to hate my answer.
I am not ruling out the murderer(s) had help in the area of disposal by someone with a more sophisticated knowledge base then they-
B
To clarify my first two paras @9:20am (sorry): Para 1: I found the whole thing bizarrely reported in C-ville Magazine. In Para 2, the interviews I mention were conducted by The Hook, which I did not find bizarrely reported except inasmuch as the reporter (and perhaps LE?) chose to interview locals, not solely students, living there.
Morning all,
The t-shirt … This makes me think even more so that there was a scattering of evidence. Whatever was left in the perp’s vehicle was tossed … at the apartments, along 64 … I’m thinking maybe the boots and t-shit were found elsewhere, not at AF.
The purse still doesn’t make sense to me though.
Blink – t-shiRt. not t-shit. too little sleep.
Morgan was so stunning outwardly and they say, so beautiful inwardly, I believe there were many girls that both openly hated her and secretly hated her. There was a female involved, IMO.
One question, does anyone know the reason why a couple of other sites scrubbed all references/mentions of the shirt shortly after that info was released? With the liability concerns here, I’d think if that was something that came down from LE then it wouldn’t be mentioned here or on the other local news site that ran the story about it.
I seem to always have to come back with an amendment or addition to my comments. Obviously, Kristan Fox did meet whatever caused her death very near to Charlottesville, about 15 to 20 minutes to the east. I doubt that her death has anything to do with Morgan, just my feeling. I do hope information is released soon and if there is any culpability in her death, that those individuals pay for their involvement. It sounds like she was a very bright young woman with a promising future and a troubled past, including have been in her home as a teenager when her step-father killed her mother and then committed suicide.
Blink, I’m sorry, I didn’t make myself clear about the location of Augusta County, nowhere near the NC border and the reports of missing women in that area. I tend to write as if everyone reading here knows the area. The deceased woman I wrote about was found in the county just to the west of Albemarle County in the Shenandoah Valley. I do believe that there is at least one other woman missing from that area and is probably a homicide. It sounds like the body just discovered is not at this time considered suspicious.
I do think too little publicity is given statewide to missing persons. Until I read Phyl’s comments and clicked on the link, I had heard nothing about the professor missing from Sweet Briar College, not that far up 29S from Charlottesville, maybe a 1/2 hour to 45 minutes drive. Until it is confirmed that she is a suicide, I would have to include her in the troubling incidents from Lynchburg and farther to the southwest.
The shirt changes things for me, not inasmuch as profile, but the margin for error in subjects.
Perhaps for some it is easier to focus on items than people.
If we believe it was her shirt, then what?
Honestly, for me, when I think tshirt displayed on 1 of 3 bushes in front of someone’s apartment, I am thinking that is a jealous girlfriend move.
Did someone “learn what he did”?
B
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The shirt has always sparked my curiosity. It was quite obvious to me that Morgan’s shirt was not found with/on her and that is why LE took interest in the shirt after her body was found. Like another poster here I also quickly jumped to the RSO connection. His work was not far from where the shirt was found and her body close to his home. But maybe that is too easy of a connection. If the shirt was planted, what is the ultimate goal? If it is isn’t to bring attention to one of the residents, than what?
Is the killer just dropping/planting this around town to mess with LE?
Morgan is found on the farm. Her purse in the parking lot. Her shirt found outside an apartment complex. There has been talk about her accounts being used. Is it possible that her ID and cards were found in yet another location?
http://www.virginia.edu/uvapolice/reports.html
If you look through the reports that state “found property”, next to the statuses all but two are still active. Which means they have not returned the property to the owner.
1) The purse found in the cage lot – active (10/18)
2) ID, Visa and other cards found in parking lot – active (10/23)
Is it possible that the ID and cards are Morgan’s?
Honestly, for me, when I think tshirt displayed on 1 of 3 bushes in front of someone’s apartment, I am thinking that is a jealous girlfriend move.
Did someone “learn what he did”?
B
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I’m not sure I follow. Are you saying that rather than the perp ‘planting’ it there to throw off the search, that it may be a jealous girlfriend who put it in front of where the perp lives? And if this is thought to be MH’s actual shirt then how did the girlfriend obtain it?
To ConcernedBystander: Thanks for your response. I will wait patiently with my hand outstretched for you to take it on the next lap. As each week goes by, I am losing hope for a resolution. Comments are made that one is close, but I am not feeling it.
And I will wait patiently. When I was very young, a tot actually, I did not like escalators. I would freeze at the thought of “jumping” on those moving stairs that fold up into oblivion at the top. Many a time, my mom would already be on and my frozen little legs would be stiffly standing at the bottom. She would have to circle around the store and come back down to get my and my hand.
I will be there when you come back…
Regarding the placement of the shirt, that area is inhabited almost entirely (if not entirely) by UVA students. This is the area where fraternity and sorority houses are, so it is primarily undergraduate students. I don’t believe undergraduate students are going to have knowledge of Anchorage Farm, especially that remote section of the farm. My initial thought is that if the the shirt was planted there, it was to draw the police off track and make them think a student did it.
rnmom – re: “threat to the community” (3/15 @ 11:23 pm)
You make fine points here in regard to my earlier post about LE likely deducing MH got into a car/the perp’s car of her own volition, but I don’t think you read my post in the context I intended it, based on your reply:
“If in fact LE is working under that assumption, would that make the perp any less dangerous? I agree she made some bad decisions most women and even she herself wouldn’t have made under normal circumstances. How many people make bad decisions everyday?… So, if LE is working under that assumption, I would like to know why. We all know what assuming does.”
I was not asserting that if MH *did* get into the perp(s)’s vehicle of her volition, the person/people she encountered were any less dangerous, or less of a serious threat to any other girl that night; personally, I feel quite the opposite. Morgan ended up murdered and left in a field, after all; clearly the Cville community has a possibly deranged, sociopathic killer in their midst – and likely a small contingency of supporters protecting him/one another.
But the question I was addressing was not: Is the perp less dangerous because MH may have trusted him/them at first and went with him/them willingly; rather, I was replying to total amateur’s query about why Lt. Rader appeared to dodge the question of whether her homicide inidicated others in the area were at risk:
(TA:) “Now a question as to a statement made by Lt. Rader a while back. When asked if he thought there was a threat to the community- he seemed to dodge the question, even hinting at the contrary, IMHO. If this was a stranger abduction while either hitch-hiking or walking alone, that lead to a possible rape and murder… wouldn’t he be compelled to offer some sort of warning to the community? This is one of the indirect statements from LE that leads me to think it was someone she knew. What is your interpretation of his answer in that presser?…”
I don’t know *why* Rader did not answer it directly; I can only surmise that he was not in a position to answer that query at that time. My earlier post on the matter, that you (very poignantly) addressed, is simply my interpretation of his non-answer to that important question-mark.
Just to be totally clear, I must reiterate: Whomever is responsible for Morgan’s death is indeed a Dangerous Individual (who possibly acted out with another/others), and I submit he/they will continue to pose a threat to members of the Cville community until apprehended and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
J2K said:
Just to be totally clear, I must reiterate: Whomever is responsible for Morgan’s death is indeed a Dangerous Individual (who possibly acted out with another/others), and I submit he/they will continue to pose a threat to members of the Cville community until apprehended and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
(my emphasis added in bold)
This is why I suggest if this case is not resulting in arrests over the next week and a half, the strategy should shift.
B
it depends on how the shirt was laying on the bush,it wasnt displayed was it? could the placement have been achieved from being tossed?was it definatly not there october 31?oct 20th?oct 18th?who would want it found?attention seeker!ex girlfriend wouldve broke by now,right?,or be breaking all over the place.
Wouldn’t Wild Wings be on the way from Ivy & Copelely to Pantops?
Pantops – multiple searches conducted there, making me think there is some validity to the Pantops area being connected to Morgan’s fate that night. Was she taken here? Is the initial crime scene in Pantops?
Shirt – If it was Morgan’s shirt, I believe where it was found would be in the general direction of Pantops, correct? I didn’t put too much weight into the shirt initially so I can’t remember the street it was found on to pin the location in my googlemaps. We don’t know what clothes Morgan had on when she was found – was she missing her shirt?
Yes, I am thinking (for today) Morgan may have met her demise in Pantops and was then placed at AF. Evidence such as camera, etc, could be found anywhere in between. And, also back to believing the Wild Wings things had some validity to it as well.
Is this statement by Lt. Rader regarding the AF location:
“…the person responsible is inclined to return to this area in a high stress situation…”
tied to Morgan’s shirt being found later in Charlottesville? (assuming it is Morgan’s shirt). Things are slowly starting to make sense…
Blink – Although I don’t comment much – I read here every single day….and multiple times a day, at that.
I’ve watched this case so closely – and have prayed so many times for the arrest in this case to come.
Yet, it alludes us.
Some days, the arrest feels so close…but yet so far.
When Morgan’s lovely bones were found, you were thinking an arrest was imminent.
So,respectfully, a question I have for you is: Are these feelings of yours “gut feelings?” Or – do you have sources close to the investigation that are providing you with, perhaps, less than accurate information.
Please, do not, in any way, take this as any kind of finger pointing, etc. I’m just trying to understand how we go from “imminent” to almost two months past with no closure in sight.
Whoever this murderer was was smart enough not to leave much behind – and what was left behind does not point at him/them.
The shirt thing boggles my mind. If, indeed, it really is her shirt – I cannot BELIEVE that information was withheld from the public. If the shirt was found in early November – that was just 2 weeks after her disappearance. Morgan’s story was still big news – and had that info been released – someone may have remembered something.
Although it seems like there are so many of us watching this case and waiting for the arrest – the pool of people really is quite small.
And, the longer it goes with no arrest, the smaller the pool of people becomes.
And, with that – comes less memory and fewer leads.
My heart is so heavy. I wake up each day in hopes of an arrest. And, each day closes without one.
It literally gives me a heartache that is indescribable.
So, Blink, – even though things haven’t panned out liked you’ve been told…I am hoping there are new reasons to be believe an arrest is coming.
Because my hope is fading at a rather unpleasant rate.
I respect the question, truly.
That said, it does perturb me somewhat when I am repeatedly asked a question which the answers to are already in my direct coverage of the case, or that I have answered before, in detail.
So, Teri, provided your satisfied with my response, I am going to ask a question of you.
I would like to task you, because your following this case closely enough, that when the next person asks a similar question, you fly back on here at your convenience and provide for them the link to this very comment and my feedback.
Deal?
(yes, Blinkers, this is going to be the new standard, the *Honor Posting Goblet*, please pass it on)
I have sources in every agency in this investigation. I have sources in the local community, and many with serious insight into individuals discussed on this site. I have M A N Y sources that I cannot and will not name.
Imo, based on a combination of my experience and knowledge base, known and non-public information, and other sources and resources, this case started over on January 25th.
I do not believe those responsible for Morgan’s murder believed she would be found.
I believe finding her has taken the investigation to include more than one suspect, and possible outcry witnesses.
As I learn about and develop leads in a case, it can always shift through that work.
INVESTIGATION, via route word, is INVESTing the time and resources to follow the leads and evidence.
No matter how hard I try, I can’t get it to follow me and tap me on the shoulder, that’s just the way it is.
I apologize if my “imminent” phraseology makes some take a day off or reduce their angst level to defcon 1.
I think it may be a fair characterization that for those of us in “Investigative Time Zone”, imminent means something different. My apologies.
I will clearify to say that I believe an arrest, leading to other possible arrests,
is/are F O R T H C O M I N G in this case.
B
Okay — Admission time here: I was a groupie of a local band — but kind of in the background — we really did just like the music, and in fact hired them for a private party — they were great local musicians and had played w/ Robbin thompson, Steve Bassette, Bruce Hornsby and Bruce Springstein — two of the group members are studio musicians — but because they were so well liked across a broad spectrum of people, we often saw the same people at their venues — they had a long-standing recurring gig at one of Richmond’s best restaurants and bars — The Tobacco Co.– I used to work 90-hr weeks and it was great to be able to go out to dinner w/ friends and then stay and listen to the band —
Not to speak for Blink, but I think that was the main thrust of her article, that Christian Breeden — and others — is a popular performer playing Cvlle and other venues that some of the same people — including Morgan — may have frequented —
Please bear in mind, we only know “hearsay” that Morgan’s conversation w/ SS was that she could not get back in and that she would either find her own way back home or meet them after the concert — there have been so many different reports of that conversation and it may not have been what they said to one another at all –
Prior to my brain injury, I worked in the legal field for over 25 years — true scenarios of an event usually are never as complicated as even very credible witnesses make them out to be — and two different, certififed professionals in the same field can have very differing expert opinions on the same event — usually the true events come down to very simple math of 2 plus 2 really does equal four —
I have always had a very difficult time w/ the “hearsay” account of that conversation being: I will find my own way home — and the people that were w/ Morgan allegedly waiting in the parking lot for 2 hrs after the concert — it makes no sense —
Also, it makes no sense that she was HHg — she walked in the direction of the Copeley Bridge — not in the direction of the shopping center in the opposite direction — she had another route she could have taken and that would have been turning left outside the arena onto Massie headed toward Emmett Rd. and the Econo Lodge — that girl had a specific destination in mind when she headed toward the Copeley Bridge — I’ve read another witness account that says they saw her near Alderman and Ivy — which means she crossed that bridge —
Could the eye witnesses have been mistaken when they saw her walking and assumed her to be HHg — I don’t know. The initial LE presser stated more than one witness saw her HHg — we don’t know who those witnesses are and what exactly they saw —
Other than Dave Gardner, the UVA grad, who of his own volition gave his name to the press and made the public statement that he parked beside the car he believed to be Morgan’s and she made the comment they were here to see Metallica and she was anxious to get inside, and the remainder of the people w/ her were not quite as enthusiastic —
That is the ONLY public witness statement we have of anyone seeing her prior to being inside the arena. We don’t know if or why the friends may have lingered in the parking lot — it could be as simple as they’d been in the car for awhile and wanted to stretch their legs — their approximate arrival time was about 6 to 6:30, the concert didn’t start until 7 or 7:30 — they had assigned seats — maybe they just wanted to walk a bit — smoke a cigarette — nothing nefarious —
We have no idea of the true convo between Morgan and Sara — but an alleged convo of she’d find her own way back home and the friends waiting for 2 hrs. post concert does not add up — and them getting in her car and driving back down to Cvlle to look for her the next day doesn’t add up, either — then their post Morgan missing behavior 2 wks later partying is beyond my ability to comprehend —
Then the next creditible information we have is Morgan is found on AF —
everything else in this case is only speculation — and in my bones I feel that “if” — and there’s a strong “if” for me — an arrest is ever made, the facts of what happened to Morgan on that fateful night are going to be much simplier than we believe.
The second point, realistically, how much manpower can the Commonwealth, which has the lead on this investigation at this time, and how many resources can they expend on a daily basis in resolving Morgan’s murder? There are budget cuts in every aspect of government services for this year, including VSP. morgan’s case is eventually going to have to go into a cold case file if it is not solved in the near future.
Even if donor DNA is found and recovered, what will it show other than there was a sex act — which any defense atty will defend based on consensual sex — if she was shot and a bullet recovered, and that bullet can be linked to a gun — that opens a new door to the investigation — if she were struck w/ an object, and that object can be recovered — that opens another door — but if she were strangled by bare hands, it would only be circumstantial evidence linking a sex act to the strangulation — the jury only needs one iota of reasonable doubt to not convict —
No pun intended, but in order to resolve this case or make an arrest, somebody is going to have to start singing, and so far they haven’t even been warming up in the wings.
Again,I hope I’m wrong, but when a lot of people were thinking and stating an arrest was coming soon after her body discovery in Jan., it is now March and no arrest —
Just saying — not flaming anyone on their thoughts and theories at all : )
Peace to everyone who visits here – -
Sky
Again, I hope I’m wrong
There are people who disappear without a trace in extreme populated areas.
Thankfully, that is not what happened here.
There are witnesses, phone records, cameras, evidence, and of course Morgan being found on a farm in a rural community with not a dense population in an area that one would have to know to get to.
They HAVE to be able to solve this. What the heck is taking so long??????
That is a really long answer.
For brevity sake, I offer in an investigation of this type, where Morgan’s remains were only found 6 weeks ago, it is possible that many lab and forensics are not back yet.
B
To cadillac: Wonderfully put. As you catch ConcernedBystander’s hand, please hold your hand out to me, so I can go, too. Many of us feel the same, but we must look up to True North (Blink) and we will find the way…If the Harrington’s can hold on, so must we.
I think of all the posters here who are our constants: J2K, Fish, Sky, Observer, total amateur, JulieMooley, so many more, who just take a breath and delve into what they can do. Much pain is contained here on this site, but much hope, too. Sometimes even comic relief! I can’t tell you how many times Suz has made me smile. I am here more than I should be, sometimes, but never have I felt my time was wasted. If anything my faith in humanity has been bolstered. So, I eagerly wait for what the great minds here will find next.
blink: if a jealous girlfriend then what are you saying?
Could she want him caught or just making a statement to him…I’m in control. Still with you but I’m in control! Could this mean she knows and has items that were given to her, at the time she did not know where they came from, but she does now! Does she protect him because they share something???
And since I have been slow on the uptake…does the shirt have photos on it or just the words? And, Brandon Shores from BelleMorte, the dude who the Hook interviewed, did he know of Morgan before or let me ask him…Did he ever see her before but never met her?
Boy, I also want to ask Mr. Townsend, did he see Morgan fall? And, since he states on Jane Velez Mitchell’s Nation Crime TV show, why was there anxiety around where he was and if you know your seat and section,you have your ticket on you, (he posts it btw), why would it be so hard to find your way back to your friends? Morgan could have found her way back to her friends even if she went to the bathroom. Maybe someone could jog his memory since I feel that what went on inside the arena is just as important. Maybe I am alone in that thought. Did he see her have an altercation with JPJA staff? If she was able to communicate with Sarah Snead about getting a ride, I do not think that she was so outta it that she wouldn’t know that she couldn’t get back in. But Blink, let’s say she needed air did DW, say ok I’ll let you back in and then maybe he is called away. She can’t get back in because of the fact that he states himself…”I wish I could have done more to help her”, but he is gone from his specific post that night.
I think that Wayne Townsend would have let more fly on the JVM show but when one reads the transcripts, they jumped around to different guests. Like my Daddy always said…Let ‘em talk! He just saw her passing by and no more information was gleaned from him. I’m sure that he is distraught about this all. Cute photo of his little boy. Sorry if you all missed it, now he is onto UrineAway. I’m not kidding that kid is a cutie.
And to KeeKee, wow! I hope that all is well. It can be a bear here sometimes. I hang on every post of yours. Insightful and yes, I must have missed a great deal. I’m only on this site so I do not know what goes on with others. My comfort, trust, and committment level is here but I appreciate all the hard work that goes into your posts. My opinion is that we all are trying very hard. I personally, am into some dough searching. But that’s ok with me.
Morgan deserves to have some friends hitch hiking next to her!
I am sure that your daddy as my daddy as blink’s daddy are proud of all we are trying to accomplish! Enough said by me. I have to go back and read some of what I have obviously missed. Blink, I have said names here but everyone of them is available on the www. Should I call Jane VM to ask her if I can use? What about the Hook?
Also, as my hubby is elbow-deep in a tragic mess, he is letting me use his laptop. Seems my pc has a nasty virus that has taken over. Been on too many infectious sites it seems and I’m gonna need some strong antibiotics! This fish has ick!
enquirer: i’m thinking, thinking, thinking! fish out!
lol, lol.
B
just a short remark about the shirt,come back later with more.
try all ti think logical.why shold someone say it`s hers.there are thousands of shirts with letters or pctures.
that says,of course le has fond her dna
b.h
Or someone else’s.
B
adair says:
March 16, 2010 at 10:46 am
“Much pain is contained here on this site, but much hope, too. Sometimes even comic relief!”
DITTO! What you said! That is exactly what I feel everyday here. Thanks for remembering all our losses. Hope, relief, and holding hands gets us through the day! No matter what the critics say…I truly believe what goes on here is unusal, different, and very special. I HAVE NEVER before encountered such insight and support. And, I have been there and done that, twice! My dear friend!
btw: we buried her on this day! so there…all you naysayers!
ConcernedBystander says:
March 16, 2010 at 9:06 am
cadillac says: I am sorry to say this AGAIN – but there seems to be the gerbil wheel going round and round over and over. One day we are headed to the right and the next day to the left, I am losing track of where we are going…
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Just stay put…we’ll be back to get you on the next lap.
Lol, well said.
The shirt changes things for me, not inasmuch as profile, but the margin for error in subjects.
Perhaps for some it is easier to focus on items than people.
If we believe it was her shirt, then what?
Honestly, for me, when I think tshirt displayed on 1 of 3 bushes in front of someone’s apartment, I am thinking that is a jealous girlfriend move.
Did someone “learn what he did”?
B
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I would hope if someone had evidence and wasn’t involved in Morgan’s murder he/she would have given the shirt to LE and didn’t play games with it.
What I don’t understand about the whole scenario with the shirt is that it was supposedly found in November yet no one in the apartment building mentioned anything to the press about having been interviewed. It wasn’t until people with badges were back in January scouring the landscape that at least two people said they were asked then what they knew. If this is Morgan’s shirt, as Blink believes, does this mean LE initially dismissed the shirt as being Morgan’s until DNA results proved otherwise and then scrambled to look for additional evidence and interview possible witnesses?