Morgan Harrington Murder: Coincidences or Clues ?
Disclaimer–
North Garden, VA– Morgan Harrington, the 20 year old fair-haired, radiant beauty, was brutally murdered after disappearing from the John Paul Jones arena the evening of October 17, 2009.
Morgans remains were recovered the morning of January 26, 2010 in a hayfield on Anchorage Farm, owned by David and Nancy Bass.
Since Morgan was found by Mr. Bass that blackest of days in January, there has been rampant speculation about her last hours and how she ended up in the creek bed of total strangers.
A sequence of events and incidents in the days and hours preceding and following the January 26, 2010, discovery of Morgan Harrington’s skeletal remains on Anchorage Farm continues to attract attention from pundits and volunteers dedicated to Morgan’s cause.
Although naysayers point to a lack of a viable connection, and police have disavowed a link, others say emergency services runs to a nearby fire and also other responses which are not supported by publicly available documentation has led to calls for more complete disclosure to eliminate any connection or chance of prank calls to misdirect or busy first responders.
The editors of www.blinkoncrime.com present a series of events occurring in Albemarle County, VA that pose the question:
What the Hell is going on and what does it have to do with Morgan Harrington’s murder?
The Monsoons of Albemarle County …. PD
Ok, maybe I meant “The monsoor”. Karl Monsoor that is.
Former Officer Karl Monsoor had been tugging on the shirtail of ACPD for years before he finally left with pocketfuls of sunshine. Almost 500 G’s.
It is not my intention to be glib, it is my intention to say that as one of the youngest police departments in the country, enacted in 1983, this tank needed algeacide before this past March.
Death By Cop.. January 1, 2010
Colby Eppard, described by some as a cross between Gomer Pyle and cool hand luke, had the rawest of deals growing up in Greene County.
According to his foster-mommy-aunt, Tammy Harlow Cox, Colby was hit by a car at a very young age and suffered a brain injury that apparently served to shape his future of home upheavel and juvenile detention facilities.
Ms. Cox, to whom Colby Eppard was entrusted for a time as a foster parent, is no stranger to the judicial system. Tammy was arrested for admittedly having sex with 3 High School seniors athletes on the Varsity Football Team, where her own sons attended. The same school Colby elected to leave without his diploma.
Colby’s family recalls better times, and I don’t think anyone believes this is the last we have heard of this case.
Specifically under VA statute, Greene County Captain Randall Snead was out of his jurisdiction, both when he was called about Colby stealing the patrol car and the fact that he was in North Garden, Albemarle County, looking for it. It would seem the Greene County Roster could accommodate a deputy vs. a captain to respond, no? Keep in mind, EVERY responding officer was put on desk duty pending the investigation, through at least February 9th, 2010.
While the attorney for the Commonwealth, Denise Lunsford has cleared all officers from all participating counties involved, none of the dash cams have been released despite requests through The Freedom of Information Act..
According to Ms. Lunsford, in an incident that spanned almost 70 miles and over 2 and a half hours where traffic was rerouted and stringers were used, Colby Eppard was allegedly wielding the 20 gauge Greene County Issue out the windows, not one LEO attempted to engage or respond to Eppard in an effort to get him to pull over, or negotiate his surrender at any time.
In fact, according to statements from Snead, Albemarle Deputies Fields and Marden, they were all in place on the south junction of 20 “in the event” he went that way, yet, they did not block traffic until after the stinger caused Eppard to crash.
My biggest question regarding this incident is: Did anyone ask Colby Eppard why he would take the truck and 2 rifles on New Years day ending up in Albemarle County?
Was it related to a New Years Eve occurrance of a friend, family member or associate of his? After Sgt. Hutchinson loses Eppard near the Nelson line, the next time he is seen is parked on Green Creek Rd, back in Albemarle.
What route did he take from 29 South to end up there? Was he seeking Red Hill Road where the overdose call came in to EMS the night before?
By all accounts he was a troubled young man with challenges throughout his young 18 years.
Additionally corroborated by those that knew him, he was never violent to anyone. There were over 6 Law Enforcement Officers from 4 different jurisdictions this man encountered before he hit just below Carters Bridge; 14 by the time the stolen vehicle ended up in the ditch.
Not one of them spoke or attempted to speak to Colby Wade Eppard at anytime he was on the police radio for over 2 hours. Was there an order given not to?
How is it that not one officer responded to Eppards threats, which were even being monitored by the media at this point in an effort to have a peaceful result to this situation?
Did Eppard have a cell phone with him and have the records been checked?
Did he call anyone, like Amber Rogers, his off-again girlfriend of 3 years? His brother Courtney or any of his friends?
In the preliminary release by the Virginia State Police, it stated Eppard returned to his crashed 2006 Ford Ranger truck prior to stealing the unmarked Green Cty car. If he were attempting to have a police stand off, why would he not take the two rifles he brought with him? He left his guns behind.
It also states in the report that Eppard is seen on the video from the STOLEN police car retrieving the shotgun from the trunk and loading it, how is that possible considering all the cameras are dash mounted?
Can someone explain to me how the officers have been cleared, but the footage of both Eppards actions and their responses, the very evidence of the incident cannot be released? One of the officers involved, Caleb Marden, was fired for reasons nobody is willing to comment on.
There is only ONE way that is legal; if is part of an ONGOING investigation.
So what investigation is it an active part of?
(Editors note: If Mr. Eppard put ANYONE’s safety at risk through his actions, in the end, I say what happened to him was done to protect others, which I support. That said, as it was not so long ago a Virginia Conservation Officer was indicted for the involuntary manslaughter of a 16 year old kid whose girlfriend he was trying to grab out of his moving car, and later had the charges dismissed, I think it is worthy of conversation.)
Byrd Watching DungSmoke – January 22, 2010
James Byrd Gunn, resident or squatter at 5027 Stoney Point Rd, Barboursville, VA owned by Piedmont Manor Land Trust, was busted for possession of Marijuana with intent to deliver, and possession of a firearm as a felon.
TODAY, Mr. Big Gunn is on the Run-Run. He was indicted on both counts Monday and declared a fugitive this afternoon.
CR10000107-00 GUNN, JAMES BYRD POSSESS MARIJUANA W/INTENT 06/07/2010 Active
CR10000169-00 GUNN, JAMES BYRD FELON W/ A FIREARM 04/08/2010 Fugitive
In a SEPERATE arrest on January 23rd, 2010, Jeremy Manning– Smith (JMS) with the cool 144 acre pad in Keswick, also indicted on 4/5/2010 , may turn to the fivefold plan to help him out. JMS keeps a cool $55K recession-proof wad around for emergencies. Mr. Manning-Smith is a long time composter, although he never really states what he is growing.
Lisa Powers, copperworks and the fivefold planners say burn the dung. They are pals, although I doubt she is securing his bond.
Cash Runs OUT.. January 24th, 2010
Jason Todd Cash, with NO CHARGES OR WARRANTS PENDING allegedly tries to kill a cop when he is stopped in Nelson Cty in a vehicle registered to someone in Buckingham County. Remind you of anyone? He ran from the scene, leaving the vehicle and eluded police on foot.
The vehicle was impounded. He apparently is driving on a revoked license, which county has that occurred in? We will get back to J-money.
NON Garden Party…. January 25th
At approximately 10PM on the evening of January 25, Albemarle County Fire and rescue services responds to a call at the 37 acre farm of award winning gardening and horticulture experts John Sauer and his wife Cathy Clary. It is listed as a tactical incident rescue and as of March 24, 2010 is still an open incident. What was it? Who or what needed rescuing?
Mr. Sauer is the long-time gardner for Carr’s Hill, the residence of the President of UVA. Carr’s Hill was the former site of the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity until 2003 when it was moved by the city to it’s current location on Culbreth. Ms. Clary is a horticulture proffessor at UVA, and most recently taught a home landscaping course which included a field trip the afternoon of Saturday October 17, 2009.
The Sauers are also members of Piedmont Landscaping Association, which is open to anyone in the landscaping field and the Virginia Cooperative Extension.
Interestingly enough, there were several fire alarm activations on the UVA campus on this same day. Faulkner House reported a residential fire around 4:10 am.
Threes Company, Four is Combustible..Jan 26th
Sometime after 10PM, the residential fire at 3323 Sutherland Rd breaks out.
This would be the fire that is still an OPEN INCIDENT.
This fire,as you can see, was no curling-iron-left-on.
It allegedly started after the residents were asleep, although they had all apparently packed their belongings and were on a month to month lease, 2 had already moved out.
In fact, according to Peruvian vacationer and dog owner of Blanca, the pit bull that perished in the blaze, he was not aware of the fire until days after the fact because he was with friends in Peru.
Convenient, if you ask me, as he has a previous weed distribution and subsequent traffic charge in December 2009.
Meet new pup to the left. In fairness to fair-weather k9’s of America, he was only asking for dog-sitting, and not on the lease. Choose your kenneling wisely people.
The residential fire at the 3000 block of Sutherland Rd has some issues. For starters, you have the first press release regarding the possible accidental fire since as far back as 2003 before a cause determination has been made.
Additionally the release itself appears to have missed the fact that approximately 2 hours after the last apparatus departs, there is an additional call back to the property requiring 12 responders within minutes of the discovery of Morgan Harrington’s remains. They may have literally passed each other on Route 29; they definitely would have heard the dispatcher.
The former owner of the Sutherland property is buried on Anchorage Farm. A relative of the current owners has hunted the Anchorage Farm property.
The band in the image on the left is pictured practicing in the Sutherland home.
A firefighter, whose identity blinkoncrime is choosing to withhold, who fought the fire, without sleeping took an impromptu trip to New Jersey with his ..”aunt, uncle, cousin, his cousins uncle and a friend..” at 10:23PM January 27th, driving straight through without stopping and returned to North Garden by 1:45PM January 28th. Through his own facebook postings, he spends the bulk of his time when he is not volunteering for the North Garden Fire Department at his cousins; a Toco Hill address also listed as the home for a recently released registered sex offender.
Retired Greene Sheriff Takes His Own Life.. January 28
There is no evidence to suggest that William “Willie” Linwood Morris’s suicide has anything in common with the Morgan Harrington’s case directly, with the exception that there are obviously folks that knew him as well as other individuals being discussed. I have spoken with a family member, and an individual who has known him for twenty years and by those accounts Willie was in deep discomfort from the tinnicus he suffered from.
He took care of every detail prior to ending his life behind the barn on his farm in Stanardsville, VA, including withdrawing the cash for his own funeral.
Willie Morris was found by Captain Randall Snead, who was allegedly supposed to be on desk duty until the Eppard case investigation was completed. According to Commonwealth Attorney Denise Lunsford, that was not completed until February 9, 2010, almost 2 weeks later.
Cash is Busted on a Tip.. March 19
Not long out of Nelson County jail for a non-violent offense, Jason Todd Cash is being held in Albemarle County jail since his arrest around 1am the morning of Friday March 19.
One has to wonder if the tip about where Jmoney was hanging out on Secretary Sand Rd from his kin in Amherst.
Clint Cash, a registered sex offender was arrested in December on a felony parole violation and is facing some heavy time . His wife Donna, had just pled guilty to a misdemeanor the day before the tip came in regarding JT Cash’s whereabouts and received a suspended sentence.
Jason Cash was apprehended with help from Bink, the new Albemarle County k9 when the house he was staying in on Secretary Sands was raided and he attempted to stay hidden inside.
What are Coincidences… What are clues?
The aforementioned volunteer for NGVFD lives in same stretch of Secretary Sands Rd.
Yet another relative of Jason Cash, a registered Sex Offender, shares an employer with the cousin of “volunteer”, and volunteer; specializing in outdoor landscape lighting.
Colby Eppard was stopped in the area of Green Creek Rd that is a large parcel of land owned by Cash family member.
As far as making allegations in this report, there are none. The investigation of the events contained herein are entirely based on public information and witness accounts.
I have come to the conclusion that while we cannot say specifically which one of the issues discussed directly relate to the murder of Morgan Harrington, a primary or secondary scene integral to the investigation of same, and the hunt for her killer(s), but I do believe the incidents need to explored fully in a public forum.
Jason Mateos and Elizabeth Morton contributing editors to this report.
Blinkoncrime.com posters justice for morgan and juliemooly contributed research credits.
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Interesting that there is a general consensus of a chica planting the shirt.
Also, doesn’t the fact that the boots are missing also point to some sort of female involvement? That was alluded to previously by another poster.
So rather than think this was a spurned/confused/scared girlfriend, perhaps we should start exploring the possibility that unsub #2…is a she.
4. When you called Amy Oct. 18 what was her reaction?
I did not initially speak to Amy, I spoke (as I recall) to Sarah, I was upset and scared, and I knew Morgan something terrible had happened to her. I spoke to Amy when she brought Morgan’s car back on the evening of October 18. I do not recall the conversation; I was in a state of shock.
5. Was Morgan’s car every processed by LE? If not why?
Morgan’s car was searched by police.
-Dr. H
Just searched?
I am baffled as to why her car has not played a more prominent role in the investigation. I know we are told from SS that she (SS) said Morgan (allegedly) said she’d find her own ride home–and that statement alone sent the investigation in a very specific direction, Morgan leaving JPJ and attempting to find her own ride home.
But, isn’t it reasonable to at least consider the possibility she might have returned to her car? I have never understood why LE has been so quite about this–why didn’t they ask the public as they did so many other times –we should have been told the exact location of her car and LE should have asked people did anyone see her there (during or after the concert), did anyone see anything strange around her car and so on–For all we know that’s where the initial assault took place.
And after six months we still don’t know the exact location of her car that night.
Peggy
Peggy,
I think LE has her movements pretty much down until she left the JPJ area. They presumably know the exact location of the vehicle.
Don’t know who the person posting this is, but at RMH site, a poster said they drove by the area where the shirt was found to observe, and has explained what he/she saw:
http://findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3212
31.Roxy says:
April 19, 2010 at 10:34 am
Good day Blink,
In my opinion Mr. B had a bug put in his ear giving him the idea to check just in case. From the pictures taken of AF shortly after Morgan was found did not indicate to me the storm did much damage at all, if any. Had it been a tornado or something extremely significant weatherwise I could see it.
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Roxy,
the thing about the storm that weekend is that it was as severe as a tornado would be in tornado alley. The ground was so soggy and soft from the 25 inches of snow that had just melted, that we had trees falling down everywhere. Those trees are still laying on the ground all over the roads and highways, the state has just not been able to get to all of them yet and it is 3 months later.
The flooding was so severe that most, if not all, of the county schools were closed, some of them for more than a week. The city of Scottsville just barely missed being completely underwater, as it has been several times in the last century, most recenlty was in the early eighties.
This winter was one of those “once every decade” types of winters here. We were under a state of emergency for half of the season with the National Guard all over the county helping people. Power was out for thousands of people for extended periods of time. This was no little rain storm. It brought massive flooding due to the excessive snow melt as well as the rain fall.
Regardless of whether or not anyone knew Mr Bass would be checking his property for storm damage, and regardless of whether or not he was “tipped off” to something, I know that Mr Bass was checking his property for trees down that could have knocked his fences over and let out his cattle. Everyone was out checking on their properties after these storms. It was just that kind of a winter and we haven’t had one of those here since the mid nineties.
Oh my, I can’t believe how complicated and weird this case is, so many strange clues, like the shirt, and yes, I too think that sounds like a chick’s doing, or a very immature/not too bright male. I’ve been reading the fb pages (I always feel kinda creepy, like a peeping tom, when I do that) of the FF and his gf, and like so many other poi’s we’ve talked about or read about in the news, their women seem VERY devoted, and perhaps gullible as well. I imagine their female relatives are protective of these boys too, very clannish what with always hanging with the cousins, traveling to NJ with the whole gang…
That is a rather odd trip in itself, so many people, such a quick trip up and back. Do we know if the same number of people came back to Va as in the first leg? Did they drop someone off with other relatives in NJ?
Great photos from TD bone from FM site….is there a path through the woods from Red Hill Rd to where Morgan’s remains were found? That seems like the most direct route, and the BG would not likely be seen traveling through there. I feel it’s highly unlikely he came through the front gate, too many other ways in without attracting attention. The more I look at these photos, the more obvious it is that someone would need to be really familiar with that farm to put her where she was found…she wouldn’t be visible from any direction because she was in a triangle of trees, with the woods blocking the view from Red Hill Rd.
About the shirt, it wouldn’t be the smartest thing to plant it on that bush in the daylight, someone could be looking out their window, or a car drives by, too risky, imo. I do think it was planted though, and my feeling is it was planted to draw attention AWAY from someone/some area and to make someone nearby look suspicious.
Amazing personal stories and triumphs on here, but Sobermom, I give you huge props for getting yourself out of that horrible situation, must have taken great strength to do what you did.
Hoping for justice for Morgan soon….
Does anyone know if the insurance company paid off on the Sutherland fire or if they are waiting on the fire investigation report? The idea that the house could have been a crack manufacture house is very interesting. I have heard that if someone unknowingly buys such a house they can spend thousands of dollars getting rid of the chemical residue that can penetrate the structure, so it should be fairly easy for investigators to tell – if they are really looking.
It may not matter, but I don’t understand why we can’t know where Morgan’s car and friends were the night of the 17th, after the concert.
We do.
Back at JPJ.
B
We do.
Back at JPJ.
B
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I meant after they left JPJ, and where the car/friends spent the night until the morning of the 18th.
Yes, they drove back to JMU and stayed at Sarah’s pad.
B
Slowroller, what you and a lot of other people are assuming is that the general public in the Charlottesville area were/are aware of Morgan’s case as those of us who have been following it on a hour by hour basis here and on other forums. I am actually quite surprised the individual that “discovered” it was aware enough to report it and do so (according to reports) with out touching it. I would be willing to bet money that today, even with the attention brought about, some one could walk up to that same shrub, and hang another shirt there, or drop off a camera, or cell phone battery un-noticed.
41.Slowroller says: April 19, 2010 at 1:54 pm RE: the shirt
first of all, have any of you considered the threat of being caught “planting” that shirt…?!? taking the time to “display” it?!? so just for understanding, it has been the general consensus that AF was the dump site so as to NOT be caught, and then plant evidence in a neighborhood in town, in broad daylight perhaps?!?
Yes, I have considered that, and Blaine Eichner HIMSELF stated that he knew enough not to touch it.
Respectfully, everyone is assuming that they DO NOT know who placed he shirt there, maybe they do.
Are you saying you think it got there by some other means?
B
(((((((((GIFTER))))))))))
Much love to you my friend xo~~~~
Blink, my prayers are with your momma for a speedy recovery xo~~~~
it is a relief to know that they have evidence to the contrary as that would be a cold case waiting to happen…
RE: the shirt
“Lastly, respectfully, I disagree that the shirt could have been chucked onto the bush from a car, no way.
That shirt was put there by someone that had access to it, wanted it to be found in the manner it was, on the date it did. MOO.
B”
your reply isnt real clear in regards to what you think didn’t happen versus what you think was physically impossible…
i personally think that even if it were proved to be a fact that the shirt was placed there, i still believe it would be possible to be thrown out of a window and land like that…it would require cracker-jack timing, but it is possible…SO, are you telling us that you dont think that it was possible, therefore it had to have been placed, OR, it WAS placed there??
and if it was placed there…
*snark alert&*
we need to amend the plea to the BG’s GF…
is should now include in the description: the largest set of stones in the eastern US…
We do.
Back at JPJ.
B
So her car WAS there? The one point I cant get over is…your car is there..your friends are inside… why say you will find a way home?
Well, we are assuming that she said that, to my knowledge that has never been confirmed.
I am with you, I dont think Morgan ever said that and I think she thought she had found something to do to kill a few hours with the intention of getting back there. I do not believe she would have ever said, I will find a way home while y’all drive my car back.
B
What do you mean by BACK? As in returned?
Observer:
Following up on my shipment……The address that was provided and I mailed to was listed as vacant, and listed as an undeliverable address/PO box and was returned back to me. I am going to go pick up my Rock for Morgan. They called and told me to come and pick it up.
George says:
April 19, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Does anyone know if the insurance company paid off on the Sutherland fire or if they are waiting on the fire investigation report?
I believe Blink states the case remains OPEN.
I just had to share this with you all…
I ordered a bracelet a few weeks ago. I got it in the mail and placed it on the kitchen table with the rest of the mail, as I took the dog out to pee. I went on about my after work business, checking email, cooking dinner etc. Later in the evening as I am finally winding down getting ready to sort through the mail when I notice the bracelet is gone! I know it was there I saw it, it was purple with bright yellowish green lettering on it, but what happened to it? I looked around but it was nowhere in sight. I thought the dog go it but how? The next day my 15 year old son said “mom who is Morgan Dana Harrington?”. I immediately knew what happened to the bracelet. So, I told him her story about how she went with friends to a concert and got separated from them and the horrific nightmare that her family has endured since. I asked him ” why do you ask ?”.
He told me that he had worn the bracelet to school and people were asking him about it and he asked if I was mad that he was wearing it. He LOVES purple and green they are his favorite colors, he has a purple and green guitar that he built himself. I told him ” no I am not mad about him wearing it as long as he promised to tell anyone that asked her story and to never leave a friend alone male or female.
He promised he would last week he called me to tell me the baseball game was almost over so I could come pick him up. I told him that I was on my way, and he asked if I could drive slow because one of his girlfriend’s dad wasn’t there yet. I told him I wouldn’t leave until someone got there to pick her up. On the way home, I told him that I was proud of him, not even thinking it was related to our conversation a few weeks ago. He lifted his wrist up and said ” I promised “. I smiled and cried at the same time! He said, ” well what does 2 4 1 mean?”.
When I ordered that bracelet, I never imagined that my son would want it and wear it but, it has touched so many more people than I could have!
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I truly believe there is a motive behind the shirt being found where it was. Think about it; placing a body is something that has to be done quickly and would be risky but a shirt is easy to hide, easy to dispose of and easy to claim that it was yours. You can take your time getting rid of it with no worry whatsoever. But if you don’t want the shirt found, burning it, burying it, hiding it in the woods or weighting it down and sinking it in a pond makes much more sense. Depending on when you believe Morgan was killed and which date the shirt was found (5th vs 11th), then the “planter” had 3 to 4 weeks to “think about it”.
Throwing the shirt out of a window says haste to me. If you had the shirt for 3 weeks, then you’ve done quite a bit of thinkin’ about the situation so a hasty drive by toss doesn’t seem to make sense. Wouldn’t logic say that “no evidence” is better than “let’s give them evidence that draws attention away from the body”? Keep in mind that in November, no one for sure knew Morgan was dead. We didn’t know if she was still in the area. So if the unsub never thought she would be found by the placement on AF, then why wait 3 weeks and offer up a clue at all? Doesn’t make sense. There was definitely a motive behind this shirt being found here.
Was the dog owner’s trip to Peru a vacation, or some sort of mission work?
Vacation
B
Now that we know the precise location of where the shirt was found, even though it was found on the bushes next to 1500 Grady, the bushes are actually directly in front of Mosby Apartments.
Yes, they drove back to JMU and stayed at Sarah’s pad.
B
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Had that been previously confirmed, or are you now just able to do that? I hadn’t heard it comfirmed previously.
I thought with your first response that I had been bitten by a Great White Snark. LOL
No friend, your my roadrunner!!
I am confirming that based on my conversations with insiders, yes.
B
“Well, we are assuming that she said that, to my knowledge that has never been confirmed.
I am with you, I don’t think Morgan ever said that and I think she thought she had found something to do to kill a few hours with the intention of getting back there. I do not believe she would have ever said, I will find a way home while y’all drive my car back.”
B
I took this directly from the VSP press release.
“During the concert Saturday evening (Oct. 17), Miss Harrington left her friends to use the restroom. She left by herself and later ended up outside the arena. At 8:48 p.m., she talked to her friends via cell phone and explained that she could not re-enter the arena and not to worry about her because she would find a way home. This has been the last contact anyone has had with her by cell phone.”
VSP Press Release- October 28, 2009.
Only two people can confirm that conversation–unfortunately one is now deceased.
Blink-I 100% agree with you that Morgan never said that. I have commented before how I believe this investigation is based on a false premise, I do not believe for one second Morgan would “get a ride home” when her car was right there in the parking lot.
While we do not know exactly what was said in the 8:48 phone call–we do know that Morgan never offered an explanation as to why she was outside nor did Sarah ask. WTF! That makes no sense what-so-ever.
If your friend called you 20 or 30 minutes after she allegedly went to the bathroom–wouldn’t your FIRST question be-”where are you”-Morgan would respond, “I’m stuck outside”-Sarah “What the eff! What happened?
Peggy
Peggy, I would NEVER, EVER leave my friend outside, under any circumstances. Keep in mind, Morgan had just fallen in the damn bathroom. The only explanation that gives the friends a pass, imo, would be if she told them specifically where she was going, and what she was doing, and we all know that does not jibe with hitchhiking on the Copely bridge, now does it?
B
Blink,
I posted an early comment earlier today but I do not see it posting or A/M. I’m thinking because I may have come across wrong by my wording saying “I’m glad the reporter exploited the snip”? I wasn’t name calling, what I was meaning is I’m glad the reporter exploited and included the “snippet” of the assumed conversation by his/her wording writing “-he thinks in November” I’m sorry for my wording and misunderstanding if that is the reason for deleting.
Not at all friend, got lost in my work today and fell behind. Your up.
B
One last comment:
If Sarah, Dan and Amy believed she’d get a ride home–why wait around JPJ after the concert to look for her?
Did they actually stay behind after the concert? If so, why?
I’ve also heard they went back the next day to look.
Peggy
Just to clarify, so they went back to Sara’s place after the concert? I thought Dr. Harrington stated he called Morgan’s/Amy’s apartment the next morning and spoke with Sara and not Amy. So after staying at Sara’s they both got up the next morning and drove to Morgan and Amy’s apartment? Why would Sara leave her place to go back to Amy’s place with Morgan’s car?
And where was Dan the Designated Driver?
with his GF, who also attends JMU.
B
Are you saying you think it got there by some other means? B
* I am saying that anyone at anytime could have placed the shirt there with complete anonomity – no one would have paid any attention to them.
I will find a way home while y’all drive my car back. B
* I’d love to see a confirmation as to whether or not the word “home” was used; as in “I’ll find a way (back to the party we were at)”
Keep in mind, Morgan had just fallen in the damn bathroom. B
* I thought she had fallen while down by the stage taking pictures?
The shirt was in very good condition, I posted the weather conditions on RFM, and I am stating again that my sources tell me that shirt was on that bush no later than November 5th, and that is my belief.
What party were they at previously? Maybe confirmation of that in itself would help. I think we would all agree that confirmation on alot would help us direct efforts. VSP, through their conversations with witnesses specifally state that Morgan professed she would find a way home. I commented on my disbelief of that also.
Morgan was injured in the bathroom presumably and there is a witness to that effect, who has not been named. I know there is an account of her falling and being injured in the arena, I am just passing on what I was told.
Ross, if you think the friends were involved in Morgan’s death, why don’t you just say so?
I apologize in advance if that is not your opinion, I am just trying to understand your position.
B
The Harringtons have said that they believe the person(s) who did this was in the Charlottesville area in October and returned again in November. Whether or not they were referencing the shirt being found in November, I’m wondering why it was phrased that the person(s) was there in October and returned again in November, as opposed to thinking the person(s) was in the area all along?
Unless they had some idea of the “who” (which I hope they do), I don’t understand how that distinction could have been made. I would be interested to know if they still feel the same way since she’s been found at AF? If so, it would seem to point to someone(s) living further away than AF or North Garden area because it would be odd to characterize someone living so close as having to return to the Charlottesville area since they are already in the area.
It seems a lot of people think a female planted the shirt. Perhaps a vindictive girlfriend framing someone or maybe an accomplice in the murder. What about a momma bird who knows her baby boy is a suspect and is going to be going away for a long time? Just thinking out loud.
My question would be, how did she get her hands on it?
B
-we are assuming that she said that, to my knowledge that has never been confirmed.
-I am with you, I dont think Morgan ever said that and
-I do not believe she would have ever said, I will find a way home while y’all drive my car back.
B
Like you B, I would never leave a friend out in the cold. No concert is worth that…I might be pissed at the friend but I would rather be by their side then for them to fend, specially in that frame of mind. But who knew what was really said in that conversation. Maybe the initial reaction was to say something like that, sway accountability away from her friend.
Blink, You probably have already noticed this, but AT’s facebook page is suspiciously quiet near the week of October 17th. It appears that he and his sugar had a tiff, and then there are some posts by sugar, but none from him. Also some references to joining National Guard. Lots of well-wishes from friends, as it seems he was having a rough time. Interesting read if you can get through the driveling mushy minutia.
CHEERS to everyone and BLESSINGS to the Harrington Family.
Yep, I have.
There is another peripheral issue on cousins site on 1/26/2010. And his GF’s on 1/27/2010.
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HokieHi says:
April 19, 2010 at 6:54 pm
It seems a lot of people think a female planted the shirt. Perhaps a vindictive girlfriend framing someone or maybe an accomplice in the murder. What about a momma bird who knows her baby boy is a suspect and is going to be going away for a long time? Just thinking out loud.
My question would be, how did she get her hands on it?
B
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Maybe someone who moved back in after re-registering and had a wad of dirty laundry. Momma decided to help the boy out and do some clothes and came upon it.
“It had been nicely tucked in the backpack, that nosey woman. She never said a word about it when she placed my clean clothes on the foot of my bed. I’m certainly not gonna bring it up.”
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O/T but holy cow, Judge Strickland stepped down from the Casey Anthony case because of Marinade Dave!
http://www.examiner.com/x-7403-Tampa-Crime-Examiner~y2010m4d19-Casey-Anthony-latest-Breaking-News-Judge-Stan-Strickland-removes-himself-from-case
My question would be, how did she get her hands on it?
B
Good question. Maybe just a nosy mother searching her son’s room? Perhaps someone who knows her sons history and immediately thought he was involved when Morgan went missing. Maybe, she knew all along. If we know Morgan was brutally murdered then it’s a safe assumption to think the killer probably ended up with blood on them. What if he was caught by his mother when he came home and confessed to her? Not wanting to lose her son, she helped him clean up and dispose of anything that was still around. Again, just thinking out loud. The shirt still makes no sense to me. Burning seems the smartest way to dispose of it. And I don’t understand why it was displayed at all. Again, on November 5th, there was still speculation that Morgan might have run away. Why put evidence out that keeps the investigation local and makes it appear that the worst has happened?
Hi, me again. Just putting in my two cents:
What if Morgan went back to this guys house, and the girlfriend caught them? Maybe she then attempted to fight Morgan (with whatever weapon) and killed her in a drunken rage? Then her and the bf hid the body.
Now they both cant talk because they will implicate themselves.
As for the shirt…I have not seen any confirmation that it was definitley Morgans. If I am coming late to the party, and someone can link a confirmation to me I would greatly appreciate it.
In the middle of a move…my boyfriend and I are moving in together! I still lurk every day and send good vibes to all of you
So is it your belief that someone in the close by vicinity of where the shirt was found is either directly or indirectly related to this horrific crime?
Or someone wants people to think they are.
B
CW: fwiw, I did not find it odd at all that Blaine Eichner said he “thinks it was November” when he found the shirt. That was 5 months ago. Much has happened since then: several holidays, exams, a new semester, a blizzard, and who-knows-what else in that young man’s life. I find that, if he is not involved, it is a very acceptable answer to the question of when he found it. Now if that were a BOC member, maybe we could give an exact date. I suspect Blaine is just an ordinary UVA student who is aware of the case, but not following closely as are we.
No disrespect, just another opinion.
and btw, thanks for all your research re AF and the surrounding area. Very informative. I always appreciate local details.
I know that in some early reports I read that Morgan was going to meet her friends after the concert. Here is one from 10/21/10:
“Investigators say Harrington left the arena between 8:30 and 9:30 p.m. and couldn’t get back in. Harrington called her friends inside the concert and said she’d meet up later.
State Police say no meeting time or place was set, and time is now critical in finding Harrington.”
http://www.wset.com/news/stories/1009/670771.html
On the same day the Washington Post reported:
“She called her friends and said she “would find a way either to [meet] up with them or to get home,” Rader said”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/21/AR2009102103123.html
I feel like the story sort of evolved. I am not saying anyone lied but somehow in the retelling it seems to have gotten more sure she was “hitching” a ride. But in the early reports she was going to “meet up” with her friends which would explain why the waited. So why did the story change?
Sorry to be critical but as these threads get chattier and wackier one must wade through weeks of posts to find a nugget or two which represent actual insights into this case. Everyone generating ink on the significance of the placing of the shirt please read Frank Speaker April 19, 2010 at 12:31 pm. While law enforcement would have figured this out months ago, Mr. Speaker is telling you why the shirt would have been placed exactly in the manner found. Surely the shirt was found in the immediate vicinity but perhaps very concealed or obscured and some innocent party found it and placed it conspicuously thinking that the owner must live in the building and would reclaim it. We all do it frequently when we prop up the hubcap we find so it is visible from the road or we put the mitten on a fencepost. That is how the shirt got in its exact position as found, not to send some coded message.
Who put it there? UPS man, Girl Scout, who knows? Whomever it was they still have no idea what it lead to and they have long since forgotten the incident. If they could be found and reveal the actual location of the shirt immediately prior or if trace evidence has already led to that actual location such might be very telling. Has LE made an effort to locate the good samaritan? The real question is what is the significance of the shirt being in the original location in that vicinity and what does that tell us?
Maybe the Good Samaritan is laying low so that they don’t become the next suspect du Jour with half the people with an internet connection.
Thanks Frank Speaker for a shear to nip one branch long past budding – unfortunately most the gardeners were too busy patting themselves with their rocks or postulating what messages from the ether must have nudged a rancher to check his fences to take your hint and do any pruning of this wandering vine. He is trying to spare you the energy of beating a moot point into a thousand speculations.
Lots of good energy here and a supertanker load of the best intentions but how about we take a one week breather here and spend that time on Cassandra Morton, see where that takes us? Could even tie in here somehow. Then we can come back with some renewed FOCUS.
Question: Why does Law Enforcement withold so much information in these investigations?
A. Because the nuts come out of the woodworks by the dozens, confessing, accusing others, and “feeling/dreaming/soothseeing”. Leading to hundreds or thousands of useless leads and tips which must be investigated and create massive dilution to LE efforts to narrow the search for a perpetrator, and focus on meaningful evidence.
B. Unreleased information is used to help filter out much of this bogus information, to limit its generation in the first place, and most importantly to hook legitimate suspects in questioning and provide fodder for interview and prosecution.
JMHO but worth more than two cents.
Although your delivery is a little *course grade*, in general, I agree with everything you said…
EXCEPT..
I am telling you it is my opinion that the shirt was planted there, by someone with knowledge, and should we consider the fact that this issue brings you and Mr. Speaker back after not posting in forever on the same day?
B
My problem with anyone other than the perp(s) planting the shirt is this:
It would have had to be someone that was close to the perp- someone close enough to know they did it, and where the shirt was being kept. That said, if this was so, the perp would have known who planted it… thus being aware of their “betrayal”. So, if someone not involved in Morgan’s murder did it, why would they bother doing that and not just turn the perp into the police more anonymously?
Blink, do you know off the top of your head when the news of the shirt’s discovery first hit the news? I ask because the only way I could buy the hypothesis of someone OTHER than the perp(s) planting the shirt would be if one of the suspicious “assaults” near AF was immediately following the release of that information. Inotherwords, the perp had found out about it and retaliated/threatened the person who put it there. Even then, you’d think only the perp(s)would know where he/they were keeping the shirt.
So again, IMHO the perp(s), and only the perp(s) planted that shirt. They knew the search areas were growing closer to AF, and were willing to take the huge risk of planting it in an attempt to divert LE. They knew that Morgan’s body, or something left at the scene, would directly incriminate them. Its the ONLY reason to take the risk, and give up a “trophy”.
Blink said:
“Morgan was injured in the bathroom presumably and there is a witness to that effect, who has not been named. I know there is an account of her falling and being injured in the arena, I am just passing on what I was told.”
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Any more you can tell us about the cause of the injury?
No, that’s all I know.
B
Link5150 says: April 19, 2010 at 6:38 pm
And where was Dan the Designated Driver?
with his GF, who also attends JMU.
B
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Interesting. So did Dan and his girlfriend both ride together with Morgan, Sarah and Amy? Or did they bring two cars? And what did Dan and his gf do during the concert?
Nevermind…the Dan question. I see now you were talking about after they went back to Harrisonburg.
Messimamm says “I suspect Blaine is just an ordinary UVA student who is aware of the case, but not following closely as are we.”
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I suspected so too, *until* I saw his friends list and high school. A certain ‘snooki’ pal alarms me for a couple of reasons, as does the fact that he could be considered a “local,” being from Fluvanna County and into the local music scene. Snooki could be barely an acquaintance, given the nature of FB, but she is a link to persons we’ve discussed in C’ville *and* in Waynesboro/Stauton. I say this not to incriminate him AT ALL, just saying people who are in this wide net *do* know him and his likely roommate. I think Blaine followed things pretty closely.
In regard to the idea of a Good Samaritan’s having placed the shirt for its rightful owner to find: Yes, entirely possible IMO. EXCEPT I am certain one would not forget having done that.
My wonder about whether Morgan was nauseated remains, and I would have guessed, given Morgan’s apparent condition, that shirt might well have been vomited on (sorry). B, are you able to form an opinion re: whether it had been laundered?
Anyway, if I were the Good Samaritan, I most certainly would have let LE know by now, so maybe someone has. Point well taken that this person might not want the general public to know his or her id.
Acho, are you out there? Can you use your super powers and find some names for me? Unfortunately I can’t give you house numbers as the two houses I’m curious about have had the numbers removed.
I was out in Blandemar Farms today for Garden Week, and since the neighborhood was open I took the opportunity to give myself a tour. Unfortunately I hadn’t memorized an overhead map before I got there, and I didn’t have a pen and paper to write things down. Plus I was driving and trying not to look conspicuous. I took my first right off of Blandemar Drive onto Waldemar, which ended at a circle. I think I’ve seen a photo here of the gate to one of the houses, but the house to the left of that one has no number and a closed gate. After Waldemar I got back onto Blandemar and drove further to Chopin, then to the end where I could around in the cul de sac. I was basically wrapping around what I thought was Anchorage Farm. These roads did not connect as I thought they would, but as I drove toward the dead end of Chopin the hair on my arms literally stood up. I was driving straight toward the back of Anchorage Farm and was very near the large green steel equiptment barn and older farm house that sits right next to it. This must have been one of the original places on Blandemar (not part of the development)…no number at the foot of this driveway, and very secluded. So acho, do you know who lives in this house next to the shed barn? Is it part of the original Blandemar/Waldemar Estate? I’d like to know what this shed is for and who uses it. I had a strong feeling that Morgan could have been at this house.
I know the theory is that Morgan was carried to her spot from one of AF gates on Red Hill Road…I checked this area out too, got out of my car and stood around for a while to see if I could get a “feel” for the place. Morgan could have been there, and I saw how easy it would have been to get through the first gate and onto the property. One could even park unnoticed in front of the gate as there is a slight bend in the road and it’s slightly hidden, especially in the tall grass of October. But I just didn’t feel the chill here that I did back on Chopin. It felt too open and well traveled.
I thought about posting this for quite a while… Another cold case, this time from Germany. A girl meets up with her flatmate and her mother for dinner in a local restaurant. Both her companions leave, and she goes on to meet another friend in a local pub. She realizes that she doesn’t have her keys, calls her flatmate, who promises to stay at home and let her in. Both friends part, she calls her flatmate again and tells him she is on her way home. For this, she borrows her friend’s phone battery, as hers had just run out. This is a few minutes’ walk away in a quiet and rather provincial town. No street crime. She does not arrive home as expected, but calls her flatmate some time later and tells him she would be a bit late. He is not too pleased about that, but eventually falls asleep on the sofa. By the morning, she hasn’t arrived home. He calls her mother, her friends, no trace of her. They contact the police.
On the next day, she calls her flatmate. She sounds very tired, and addresses him by his full first name, which she never does. Everybody uses an abbreviated form. She says she is ok. Over the next week, she calls her mother, her sister and other friends, and she appears very tired, not herself. During the last phone call she whispers she is held against her will, and then she is disconnected.
Three months later, her skeletal remains are found in a stretch of woods. She was still wearing the same clothes as on the day she disappeared. Her handbag and cell phone are missing. In a pocket, she has a smallish cross pendant that did not belong to her. Even though the police were at first very optimistic, they were unable to find any viable DNA traces on the scene.
Now – first question. If she called her flatmate after she had parted with her friend, from her phone, she must either have recharged the batteries, or borrowed a battery from someone. All calls came in fact from her phone. The first one came from a very small town in the vicinity, the others from her hometown. So she first left the town, for unknown reasons, and then returned.
The police were a bit cryptic as for the exact location. They said she was being moved around in a vehicle during the evening hours for a week, and they said they were looking for either a man, or a man and a women. They did not specify why. It was not released whether she was drugged (which they must know from her hair).
She was a young trainee nurse, if I remember correctly, and she did do some online chat. She was reliable and would not have let her flatmate wait in vain. Something must have happened on her short walk home. My personal impression is that someone she knew offered to give her a lift home, and she was subsequently abducted.
Oh, and this case is about as cold as it gets. There are no new leads, and the bottom line of the last press release was that police need a witness who has seen murderer and victim together (whatever this means, there is no official suspect or person of interest).
http://www.polizei-nrw.de/paderborn/Start/archiv/mordfall-frauke-liebs-1/pressemitteilungen/article/pressemitteilung-pk.html
http://www.polizei-nrw.de/paderborn/Start/archiv/mordfall-frauke-liebs-1/pressemitteilungen/article/Ungeloestes_Verbrechen_an_Frauke_Liebs.html
Why I mention this – maybe Morgan was kept alive somewhere, maybe she was even moved around. This would explain the good condition of the shirt. She could have changed into other clothes. And I can still see her on a nightmarish journey around the area, disoriented, with people she thought she could trust.
Blink, injured in the bathroom by ‘someone’?
Question: Has anyone been able to link the dog owner who was in Peru to any band members who played in the Sutherland house? How about to any of the Waynesboro folks we’ve discussed?
Remember this guy has a record of possession w/ intent to distribute.
Got it, will hold and sort tomorrow.
B