Morgan Harrington Murder: Coincidences or Clues ?
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North Garden, VA– Morgan Harrington, the 20 year old fair-haired, radiant beauty, was brutally murdered after disappearing from the John Paul Jones arena the evening of October 17, 2009.
Morgans remains were recovered the morning of January 26, 2010 in a hayfield on Anchorage Farm, owned by David and Nancy Bass.
Since Morgan was found by Mr. Bass that blackest of days in January, there has been rampant speculation about her last hours and how she ended up in the creek bed of total strangers.
A sequence of events and incidents in the days and hours preceding and following the January 26, 2010, discovery of Morgan Harrington’s skeletal remains on Anchorage Farm continues to attract attention from pundits and volunteers dedicated to Morgan’s cause.
Although naysayers point to a lack of a viable connection, and police have disavowed a link, others say emergency services runs to a nearby fire and also other responses which are not supported by publicly available documentation has led to calls for more complete disclosure to eliminate any connection or chance of prank calls to misdirect or busy first responders.
The editors of www.blinkoncrime.com present a series of events occurring in Albemarle County, VA that pose the question:
What the Hell is going on and what does it have to do with Morgan Harrington’s murder?
The Monsoons of Albemarle County …. PD
Ok, maybe I meant “The monsoor”. Karl Monsoor that is.
Former Officer Karl Monsoor had been tugging on the shirtail of ACPD for years before he finally left with pocketfuls of sunshine. Almost 500 G’s.
It is not my intention to be glib, it is my intention to say that as one of the youngest police departments in the country, enacted in 1983, this tank needed algeacide before this past March.
Death By Cop.. January 1, 2010
Colby Eppard, described by some as a cross between Gomer Pyle and cool hand luke, had the rawest of deals growing up in Greene County.
According to his foster-mommy-aunt, Tammy Harlow Cox, Colby was hit by a car at a very young age and suffered a brain injury that apparently served to shape his future of home upheavel and juvenile detention facilities.
Ms. Cox, to whom Colby Eppard was entrusted for a time as a foster parent, is no stranger to the judicial system. Tammy was arrested for admittedly having sex with 3 High School seniors athletes on the Varsity Football Team, where her own sons attended. The same school Colby elected to leave without his diploma.
Colby’s family recalls better times, and I don’t think anyone believes this is the last we have heard of this case.
Specifically under VA statute, Greene County Captain Randall Snead was out of his jurisdiction, both when he was called about Colby stealing the patrol car and the fact that he was in North Garden, Albemarle County, looking for it. It would seem the Greene County Roster could accommodate a deputy vs. a captain to respond, no? Keep in mind, EVERY responding officer was put on desk duty pending the investigation, through at least February 9th, 2010.
While the attorney for the Commonwealth, Denise Lunsford has cleared all officers from all participating counties involved, none of the dash cams have been released despite requests through The Freedom of Information Act..
According to Ms. Lunsford, in an incident that spanned almost 70 miles and over 2 and a half hours where traffic was rerouted and stringers were used, Colby Eppard was allegedly wielding the 20 gauge Greene County Issue out the windows, not one LEO attempted to engage or respond to Eppard in an effort to get him to pull over, or negotiate his surrender at any time.
In fact, according to statements from Snead, Albemarle Deputies Fields and Marden, they were all in place on the south junction of 20 “in the event” he went that way, yet, they did not block traffic until after the stinger caused Eppard to crash.
My biggest question regarding this incident is: Did anyone ask Colby Eppard why he would take the truck and 2 rifles on New Years day ending up in Albemarle County?
Was it related to a New Years Eve occurrance of a friend, family member or associate of his? After Sgt. Hutchinson loses Eppard near the Nelson line, the next time he is seen is parked on Green Creek Rd, back in Albemarle.
What route did he take from 29 South to end up there? Was he seeking Red Hill Road where the overdose call came in to EMS the night before?
By all accounts he was a troubled young man with challenges throughout his young 18 years.
Additionally corroborated by those that knew him, he was never violent to anyone. There were over 6 Law Enforcement Officers from 4 different jurisdictions this man encountered before he hit just below Carters Bridge; 14 by the time the stolen vehicle ended up in the ditch.
Not one of them spoke or attempted to speak to Colby Wade Eppard at anytime he was on the police radio for over 2 hours. Was there an order given not to?
How is it that not one officer responded to Eppards threats, which were even being monitored by the media at this point in an effort to have a peaceful result to this situation?
Did Eppard have a cell phone with him and have the records been checked?
Did he call anyone, like Amber Rogers, his off-again girlfriend of 3 years? His brother Courtney or any of his friends?
In the preliminary release by the Virginia State Police, it stated Eppard returned to his crashed 2006 Ford Ranger truck prior to stealing the unmarked Green Cty car. If he were attempting to have a police stand off, why would he not take the two rifles he brought with him? He left his guns behind.
It also states in the report that Eppard is seen on the video from the STOLEN police car retrieving the shotgun from the trunk and loading it, how is that possible considering all the cameras are dash mounted?
Can someone explain to me how the officers have been cleared, but the footage of both Eppards actions and their responses, the very evidence of the incident cannot be released? One of the officers involved, Caleb Marden, was fired for reasons nobody is willing to comment on.
There is only ONE way that is legal; if is part of an ONGOING investigation.
So what investigation is it an active part of?
(Editors note: If Mr. Eppard put ANYONE’s safety at risk through his actions, in the end, I say what happened to him was done to protect others, which I support. That said, as it was not so long ago a Virginia Conservation Officer was indicted for the involuntary manslaughter of a 16 year old kid whose girlfriend he was trying to grab out of his moving car, and later had the charges dismissed, I think it is worthy of conversation.)
Byrd Watching DungSmoke – January 22, 2010
James Byrd Gunn, resident or squatter at 5027 Stoney Point Rd, Barboursville, VA owned by Piedmont Manor Land Trust, was busted for possession of Marijuana with intent to deliver, and possession of a firearm as a felon.
TODAY, Mr. Big Gunn is on the Run-Run. He was indicted on both counts Monday and declared a fugitive this afternoon.
CR10000107-00 GUNN, JAMES BYRD POSSESS MARIJUANA W/INTENT 06/07/2010 Active
CR10000169-00 GUNN, JAMES BYRD FELON W/ A FIREARM 04/08/2010 Fugitive
In a SEPERATE arrest on January 23rd, 2010, Jeremy Manning– Smith 
(JMS) with the cool 144 acre pad in Keswick, also indicted on 4/5/2010 , may turn to the fivefold plan to help him out. JMS keeps a cool $55K recession-proof wad around for emergencies. Mr. Manning-Smith is a long time composter, although he never really states what he is growing.
Lisa Powers, copperworks and the fivefold planners say burn the dung. They are pals, although I doubt she is securing his bond.
Cash Runs OUT.. January 24th, 2010
Jason Todd Cash, with NO CHARGES OR WARRANTS PENDING allegedly tries to kill a cop when he is stopped in Nelson Cty in a vehicle registered to someone in Buckingham County. Remind you of anyone? He ran from the scene, leaving the vehicle and eluded police on foot.
The vehicle was impounded. He apparently is driving on a revoked license, which county has that occurred in? We will get back to J-money.
NON Garden Party…. January 25th
At approximately 10PM on the evening of January 25, Albemarle County Fire and rescue services responds to a call at the 37 acre farm of award winning gardening and horticulture experts John Sauer and his wife Cathy Clary. It is listed as a tactical incident rescue and as of March 24, 2010 is still an open incident. What was it? Who or what needed rescuing?
Mr. Sauer is the long-time gardner for Carr’s Hill, the residence of the President of UVA. Carr’s Hill was the former site of the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity until 2003 when it was moved by the city to it’s current location on Culbreth. Ms. Clary is a horticulture proffessor at UVA, and most recently taught a home landscaping course which included a field trip the afternoon of Saturday October 17, 2009.
The Sauers are also members of Piedmont Landscaping Association, which is open to anyone in the landscaping field and the Virginia Cooperative Extension.
Interestingly enough, there were several fire alarm activations on the UVA campus on this same day. Faulkner House reported a residential fire around 4:10 am.
Threes Company, Four is Combustible..Jan 26th
Sometime after 10PM, the residential fire at 3323 Sutherland Rd breaks out.
This would be the fire that is still an OPEN INCIDENT.
This fire,as you can see, was no curling-iron-left-on.
It allegedly started after the residents were asleep, although they had all apparently packed their belongings and were on a month to month lease, 2 had already moved out.
In fact, according to Peruvian vacationer and dog owner of Blanca, the pit bull that perished in the blaze, he was not aware of the fire until days after the fact because he was with friends in Peru.
Convenient, if you ask me, as he has a previous weed distribution and subsequent traffic charge in December 2009.
Meet new pup to the left. In fairness to fair-weather k9’s of America, he was only asking for dog-sitting, and not on the lease. Choose your kenneling wisely people.
The residential fire at the 3000 block of Sutherland Rd has some issues. For starters, you have the first press release regarding the possible accidental fire since as far back as 2003 before a cause determination has been made.
Additionally the release itself appears to have missed the fact that approximately 2 hours after the last apparatus departs, there is an additional call back to the property requiring 12 responders within minutes of the discovery of Morgan Harrington’s remains. They may have literally passed each other on Route 29; they definitely would have heard the dispatcher.
The former owner of the Sutherland property is buried on Anchorage Farm. A relative of the current owners has hunted the Anchorage Farm property.
The band in the image on the left is pictured practicing in the Sutherland home.
A firefighter, whose identity blinkoncrime is choosing to withhold, who fought the fire, without sleeping took an impromptu trip to New Jersey with his ..”aunt, uncle, cousin, his cousins uncle and a friend..” at 10:23PM January 27th, driving straight through without stopping and returned to North Garden by 1:45PM January 28th. Through his own facebook postings, he spends the bulk of his time when he is not volunteering for the North Garden Fire Department at his cousins; a Toco Hill address also listed as the home for a recently released registered sex offender.
Retired Greene Sheriff Takes His Own Life.. January 28
There is no evidence to suggest that William “Willie” Linwood Morris’s suicide has anything in common with the Morgan Harrington’s case directly, with the exception that there are obviously folks that knew him as well as other individuals being discussed. I have spoken with a family member, and an individual who has known him for twenty years and by those accounts Willie was in deep discomfort from the tinnicus he suffered from.
He took care of every detail prior to ending his life behind the barn on his farm in Stanardsville, VA, including withdrawing the cash for his own funeral.
Willie Morris was found by Captain Randall Snead, who was allegedly supposed to be on desk duty until the Eppard case investigation was completed. According to Commonwealth Attorney Denise Lunsford, that was not completed until February 9, 2010, almost 2 weeks later.
Cash is Busted on a Tip.. March 19
Not long out of Nelson County jail for a non-violent offense, Jason Todd Cash is being held in Albemarle County jail since his arrest around 1am the morning of Friday March 19.
One has to wonder if the tip about where Jmoney was hanging out on Secretary Sand Rd from his kin in Amherst.
Clint Cash, a registered sex offender was arrested in December on a felony parole violation and is facing some heavy time . His wife Donna, had just pled guilty to a misdemeanor the day before the tip came in regarding JT Cash’s whereabouts and received a suspended sentence.
Jason Cash was apprehended with help from Bink, the new Albemarle County k9 when the house he was staying in on Secretary Sands was raided and he attempted to stay hidden inside.
What are Coincidences… What are clues?
The aforementioned volunteer for NGVFD lives in same stretch of Secretary Sands Rd.
Yet another relative of Jason Cash, a registered Sex Offender, shares an employer with the cousin of “volunteer”, and volunteer; specializing in outdoor landscape lighting.
Colby Eppard was stopped in the area of Green Creek Rd that is a large parcel of land owned by Cash family member.
As far as making allegations in this report, there are none. The investigation of the events contained herein are entirely based on public information and witness accounts.
I have come to the conclusion that while we cannot say specifically which one of the issues discussed directly relate to the murder of Morgan Harrington, a primary or secondary scene integral to the investigation of same, and the hunt for her killer(s), but I do believe the incidents need to explored fully in a public forum.
Jason Mateos and Elizabeth Morton contributing editors to this report.
Blinkoncrime.com posters justice for morgan and juliemooly contributed research credits.
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Also might I add that a NORMAL person who sees a woman in distress would HELP her not RAPE AND KILL her.
Ugh…just a little upset about that comment….sorry.
mary says:
“That’s also the reason I wanted a better picture of the entrance to the RV lot. How much could one see into that lot from Copeley without actually pulling into the lot?”
Mary: I have seen that lot in broad daylight and under the darkness of night. It really does help to pull into the lot itself. Driving that bridge without traffic, one can slow up and look in. There are trees that obstruct some of your view. If one is walking you must commit to cross the street, as there is not a sidewalk on the right side of the bridge. Only the side where Morgan’s Memorial is. And, well at night, it is very difficult to see into this lot. Yes, there are large mobile lights back there now but I do not know about the night of the concert. Dark, not well lit, small and narrow.
And well about Skyler. She showed me her traffic pattern and well, I believe that this was a mom looking out for her kid and providing him with the best birthday present ever…her gift of being there for him and his friend.
This woman knows the route she took in order to secure the safety of her son and his friend back inside her own vehicle. She was responsible for them. Hell, even brought a picnic baskets of munchies for ride home.
It was amazing to see it and walk it in person. I would highly recommend it to anyone, well except the bad guy. Observer, Locals, Julie, Redhill, etc., as you are all local to the campus or area, well let me just say, you get a much clearer picture of the night from a different perspective.
That bridge is small and it was dark, rainy, and if someone saw Morgan HHing, then why didn’t they see what car she got into. I’m to believe that they turned their head and missed it?
Maybe Morgan was on that bridge(scent picked up by dogs but where did they start?), doubled back and was taken from a lot. Any lot. RV, UHall, where purse was dumped(signaling a struggle).
I would like to know if she could have climbed that hill up from the lot of dumped purse and stopped at that bridge?
I believe that there would be no way, drunk or not, a girl that was able to text, call, attempt to reenter, says “Thanks for the ride, complete stranger, take me back to Hburg!” (sorry, had to paraphrase) It was dark and that would have been frightening even for a drunk girl. And was she so drunk??? Maybe she was drugged??? Then, maybe I’m wrong and she jumped in but me thinks, she knew him.
Also, Maggie Voth. Good point about a cop theory. I think that I read somehere she belonged to a certain house on campus. The Faulkner House? Where was she walking? Or driving? I never wondered about the cop thing but did wonder if she knew Amy Melvin or her sister? Sarah never states that Morgan told her she would HH, did she??? Just the lame, grinning comment about “They wouldn’t have done it”. How do I know what that means. I just hope that someone has talked to this girl and asked if she meant HHing…cause I’m thinking she needs a refresher course in personal safety for herself and her friends.
“Friends don’t let friends drive drunk” and now addendum…
“Friends don’t let friends drunk HH”.
See why they need good help? They need solace, comfort, and find peace of mind in their young lives. Can’t say it enough. As I am not some wierdo, at least I don’t think so. Skyler help!. It has taken me years to come to terms with what I could have done differently to help prevent or change an outcome.
Dan, Sarah, Amy will have to live and cope with this.
suz: AHHHH! I’m working this through. Yes, could be a lone weirdo, not known to Morgan but known to the North Garden Area. Back to someone that may have worked this lone field.
Uncle Frank Speaker: you are gruff and ruff but never before have I wanted to agree with you so badly!!!
*”I think the case is solved and LE has a strategy to wring out more evidence and a confession”*
frank, let the wringing be true!
triple !!! for that quote, my friend
BLINK! The JMU riots! What a mess! Saw it myself in person and had to deal with it on so, so many levels. Affected our household!!! Not going into that but my God, I do not want to hear one more time about it being all “out of towners”!!! Take responsibility, KIDS! Yes, some out of town but there were so many people. Something needed to be done. They were not leaving!! We had kids in the area surrounding. I heard more F-bombs than my own! Such direspect for their own apartment community and vehicles. Torn off wipers, broken headlights, etc. Let alone the time in the emergency room. They cost the taxpayers of Harrisonburg more than we will ever know. Yes, I read about that Hburg would be nothing without the students, heard it from the parents that taught these kids the lack of respect, self and otherwise. Well, what I’ve got to say is go to another school! We have good students, a good university, and people who do enjoy what JMU has to offer. So there!!
And, well because you brought it up!
They are planning “Take back the City”! Their slogan not mine.
What eff-ups! All on Graduation Weekend. Many parties to try to disperse the law enforcement community. Do they not know that it is their job and they are trained and qualified to protect and serve?
Plus, JMU community! Don’t put it all on FACEBOOK, if you do not want the National Guard to show up to your party!!!
Sorry, sorry, sorry Blink!
An opportunity to get that off my chest. My neighbors called city manager’s office. They are aware. Mayor Degner, well, go back under your bed. Cops did what they did for the rest of your city’s safety!
http://www.nbc29.com/global/story.asp?s=12360924
County Police Make Drug Arrest
Posted: Apr 22, 2010 10:40 PM EDT
Updated: Apr 22, 2010 11:27 PM EDT
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County Police Make Drug Arrest
Albemarle County police have arrested two people they say were selling drugs at their Huntington Road home.
Officers seized more than two pounds of marijuana and 22 grams of cocaine, other drugs and a weapon, along with cash and drug paraphernalia.
45 year old Jonathon Eades and 22 year-old Dakota Eades were arrested.
The investigation is ongoing. If you have any information, please call CrimeStoppers at 434-977-4000.
I wonder if Dakota can be linked to anyone of our North Garden friends, Metallica concert, Greene Co friends, etc.
You know I just came on here to post this, lol.
B
MsL and C-ville,
I agree wholeheartedly with you both about information and not going public with it. I just said I wished they would say something. (Selfishness on my part). I’m sure they have told everything they know to the police.
“Ditto” on the BRAVO, Acho. No Kool Aid in this house either (I had to look at previous post to even be able to spell it.) My son is being educated in a Montessori School, which places great emphasis on self-direction, independent thinking, and respectful and peaceful resolution of conflicts.
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I wish I had a “clue or a coincidence” to share. My only thoughts have been the bad guys in black. I am trying to think about these mystery men in a different context–if they weren’t wearing unifoms, could they have attended a funeral or wake (dark clothing?)–could they have been dressed the way the were because they were participating in some sort of fraternity thing. It may have just been guys in jeans and t’s.
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I do notice on April W’s social networking sites, including twitter, that she sells personalized hoops–could Miss M have purchased one from her?
G R A S P I N G.
I ask…
Who’s working on the JMU Breeze?
I know…
The location, location, location of this spring fling is where certain apartments are known to party.
I ponder…
You saying people that are known to Morgan’s case were there?
Just say it I’m over with a camera of my own and you guys can walk me through posting on flickr. ok?
I just cannot see how some random criminal has left behind not one trace of himself. How smart is this individual? Does he have forensic knowledge? How is he outsmarting LE, the FBI, everyone? Come on!!! We have recovered Morgan’s body, was told there was a “wealth of forensic evidence found on AF”, Blink says we have a male boot, we have Morgan’s shirt. I’m sorry, by WTF? Why can’t they nab this SOB?
This seems worth looking into. I think this guy’s initials may have pooped up before here but I am easily confused. Link courtesy of BGSU on the Find Morgan site.
http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0410/728603.html
http://findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?p=50250&posted=1#post50250
On the JMU riots, I have communicated with a couple of people who were right there at the party (it is a very big weekend) and watching the chaos that ensued. They said it was caused simply because people would not leave an apartment party when the hosts wanted to shut it down, the police were called, people still didn’t leave and the atmosphere got tense and then the police came in with tear gas and it exploded. Though out of the ordinary (not as much as you would imagine though for these mass parties), it doesn’t seem suspicious in any way and I don’t see how it could be relevant to morgan. The people I communicated with were blaming it all on townies and the police reaction (which did seem over the top indiscriminate), but I imagine some students were complicit too.
Oh wow, another January event. That sure has been a busy month. Below is the article I found.
JMU Dorm Evacuated Posted 2010-01-28
Police Say Evidence At RR Blast Led To Campus Residence Hall
By Rob Longley
HARRISONBURG – Police have evacuated a dormitory on the campus of James Madison University in connection with this morning’s explosion on a section of railroad tracks not far from the JMU campus.
Harrisonburg police said in a statement that “information obtained during the investigation led officers to the McGraw-Long dormitory.” The dorm has been evacuated “for the convenience of the officers to conduct a thorough search.”
The statement added that there is “no anticipated hazard in the dorm.”
However, police are not saying what led them to the dorm or what they think they might find there.
Harrisonburg police have confirmed that a “small explosion” occurred on or near the railroad tracks near Cantrell Avenue this morning.
A resident of a nearby apartment complex called 911 at about 6:30 a.m. to report a “possible explosion” near the tracks, according to police.
Investigators with the Harrisonburg Police Department’s Crime Scene Unit and K-9 squad have found evidence of an explosion, along with “debris” on the tracks, although it’s not clear what specifically has been found or how much damage was caused by the blast.
But officials say no one was injured in the blast, adding that the device was relatively small.
Police have confirmed that a freight train was “being moved” in the area of the blast at the time of the incident.
But it’s not clear whether the train, now parked nearby, triggered the device.
The tracks that run through Harrisonburg are used almost exclusively by freight train operators.
Bomb-sniffing dogs and other officers have swept the area around the blast and have not found any other devices.
Police are continuing to collect evidence this morning in an effort to identify the type of device and explosive material that went off and to look for clues as to who might have put it there.
The Daily News-Record will continue to update this story as details become available.
JMU Dorm Evacuated Posted 2010-01-28
Police Say Evidence At RR Blast Led To Campus Residence Hall
By Rob Longley
HARRISONBURG – Police have evacuated a dormitory on the campus of James Madison University in connection with this morning’s explosion on a section of railroad tracks not far from the JMU campus.
Harrisonburg police said in a statement that “information obtained during the investigation led officers to the McGraw-Long dormitory.” The dorm has been evacuated “for the convenience of the officers to conduct a thorough search.”
The statement added that there is “no anticipated hazard in the dorm.”
However, police are not saying what led them to the dorm or what they think they might find there.
Harrisonburg police have confirmed that a “small explosion” occurred on or near the railroad tracks near Cantrell Avenue this morning.
A resident of a nearby apartment complex called 911 at about 6:30 a.m. to report a “possible explosion” near the tracks, according to police.
Investigators with the Harrisonburg Police Department’s Crime Scene Unit and K-9 squad have found evidence of an explosion, along with “debris” on the tracks, although it’s not clear what specifically has been found or how much damage was caused by the blast.
But officials say no one was injured in the blast, adding that the device was relatively small.
Police have confirmed that a freight train was “being moved” in the area of the blast at the time of the incident.
But it’s not clear whether the train, now parked nearby, triggered the device.
The tracks that run through Harrisonburg are used almost exclusively by freight train operators.
Bomb-sniffing dogs and other officers have swept the area around the blast and have not found any other devices.
Police are continuing to collect evidence this morning in an effort to identify the type of device and explosive material that went off and to look for clues as to who might have put it there.
The Daily News-Record will continue to update this story as details become available.
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:Mfg5gddDvS0J:www.dnronline.com/news_details.php%3FAID%3D44154%26CHID%3D64+Harrisonburg+bomb+28th+Jan&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Sorry Blink! It pasted twice.
This may be nothing, but has anyone else noticed that each time we look at a myspace page re: Morgan, that this guy named “Tom” is a friend on most pages? I was like why do I know hs face? He was on the Harrisonberg Pub on line MS page. This is who I am talking about.
http://www.myspace.com/tom
Says he’s from Calif.?
“popped up” — yeesh. sorry.
I feel I have to share something that happened in my area a few years ago. The area where I live is just one small town after another, we are a bunch of small town southerners. In a neighboring town, a sheriff’s wife was on her way home and felt that she was being followed. She worked at the local police station and called there to let them know what was happening. The call went out and the police raced to her house, including her husband, the sheriff. When the first officer got to the scene he found two men there, and one had the wife on the ground with a gun to her head. He called it in. Police from every surrounding county, including the one I live in, responded and raced to the sheriff’s house. For reasons never really known, they shot her in the head and killed the officer who was first on the scene as well. It was a true tragedy. (They killed the two men, therefore it was never known why they did what they did.) I have never felt it was wrong of officers from my county to respond, even though it was not their jurisdiction. Some wrote in to our paper and news websites to complain but most defended the police. It is a sense of duty to protect their own.
Okay let me head this off at the pass. I was wrong about the Richmond bookkeeper picking up her son. That was Skyler. I did not mean to give the impression that they actually could be the same person, just giving an example of how convoluted this case can be, or maybe an example of how ridiculously my mind works at times.
I cannot believe it has been six months. It seems more like six years.
I’m hoping/thinking that LE is aware of the identity of the BIB. The reason I feel that way is due to the lack of discussion about them on the part of LE. They have never been mentioned by LE as being part of the timeline, nor have they ever asked the public about them. If they didn’t know who they were, wouldn’t they be asking for witnesses who may have seen them or knew who they were?
Blink, a while back you were hinting that, in your opinion, someone was talking… and perhaps even admitting to picking Morgan up and dropping her somewhere. Do you still feel this way? Do you believe that this individual is one of the BIB?
JMU Riot article mentions mostly people who were NOT students were involved. I’m really hoping that police may have seen a familiar face in the crowd committing violence and now will have a reason to “bring them in” and get a DNA sample? Maybe?
Ok so he really is the President of Myspace? Hmm, my error.
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=22881
Is this relevent?
Ms. LaL, acho, mom3, and any other responders to FSpeaker: Thank you.
I can tolerate and consider divergent opinions, but disrespect for women is one of the 28 signs of potential Abusers (Batters, Aquaintance and Marital Rapists, Emotional Abusers), according to http://organizations.rockbridge.net/projecthorizon/signsofabuser.htm
“…Ridicules and insults women, sees women as stupid and inferior to men, tells sexist jokes (“dumb blond”, “PMS” jokes). Refers to women in derogatory or non-human terms (“babe”, “chick”, “fox”, “bitch”) or as specific parts of anatomy, de-values women’s accomplishments and work, acts like women are second-class citizens.”
Disrespect is abuse. I don’t believe a blogger who is guilty of this should be coddled.
The “Springfest”, as it’s known to the JMU college students wasn’t any type of political demonstration. I would compare it to the planned “Freaknic” events of Atlanta. Counties in Atlanta were prepared in that ordinances and the non-issuing of party/parade prevented planners from holding what they deemed as illegal public events/parties/parades.
I thought it was interesting that a 15 person LEO task force led by the Commonwealth’s Attorney, (whose mission is to study various pictures and video which showcase the area and social behavior and bring the riot goers/law breakers to justice) obtained media via search warrant from one of the student newspapers there because the editor (Kathis Thisdell) refused to voluntarily give {six hundred – nine hundred} unpublished images to the task force for the reason of she “didn’t think it the paper’s responsibility that she aid the LEO task force into identifying criminals”. The task force were “armed” with vans in the event the pictures still were not handed over and the computers had to be seized. My question is; Was this just a rift created by the newspaper editor and student reporters/staffers to draw attention, or were members of the newspaper attempting to hide/protect someone specifically? The task force goal could have been to get the computers for computer forensic study all along for Intel concerning other specific incidents…*note, they weren’t able to.
The riots and isolated fights weren’t just among JMU college students, but regular citizens of the surrounding counties who “attended”. -As well as landlords of property who were trying to “protect” their property.
Perhaps someone with more free time than me to today can find a local blotter of the thirty-five arrested and let’s see who the accused felons are as well as maybe find out what other LEO’s are on the task force?
SadieBlue, a quick question. Who killed the sheriff’s wife and the officer? Were they killed by the bad guys or by the police?
In an area close to where I live the township police department moved into an empty grocery store on a busy street. They covered over the large front windows and put a long counter across the front where the cash registers had been. One night about 10pm a lady in a car was frightened by something and drove straight to the police station and started blowing her horn in short bursts, but no one came out even though there were several officers inside. Pretty soon the horn sound was constant, and an angry officer went out to arrest whoever was making the noise. Imagine his surprise when he found out the continual horn was caused by the woman, shot in the head, dead and slumped forward over the steering wheel. That happened over 15 years ago, and it’s never been solved.
Can this question be posed directly to VSP?
Have the BIB, as witnessed by the accountant who saw a girl matching Morgan Harrington’s description with 4 males dressed in black…not once, but twice…first leaving the immediate arena area and again in the RV lot moments before Morgan Harrington was last seen alive, been identified?
It’s a yes or no question. Without LE elaborating as to their identities or their classification as possible POI’s… why can’t this question be answered?
Blink, do you think that these individuals have been identified?
I do.
B
Good Morning and apologies for all my goofy posts of late. I vote for the * post removal tab * if anyone is wondering.
First to TA: I do believe Blink has alluded to this theory-
“Blink, a while back you were hinting that, in your opinion, someone was talking… and perhaps even admitting to picking Morgan up and dropping her somewhere.”
This bothers me, in that would that not be an easy defense of any sub? Unless of coarse there was a proposed group of subjects that said they gave her a ride to said location, in which case one must trip up several alibis. LE may well be focusing on them, are they our BIB ? Do they live at 15th & Grady & or have some buddies in that location?
But this morning I am curious of Blink’s suggestion that we might look into the JMU explosive device from 28 Jan. Seems they have since arrested two dudes, that supposedly have no link to JMU. Sniffing dogs led them to the McGraw dorm that was inspected early on in their investigation. Good little dogs. But what do we make of this possible connection? The spring break riots were well after this event and arrest from what I can tell.
What is a common thread. College students, housing, ATF, sniffing dogs. Morgan once attended JMU, SS attends JMU. So many questions… Are these guys associated with any of the interesting people we have been discussing? I have read in some comments that at least one of the alleged bomb guys has military background. What might be the relevancy I don’t know.
http://breezejmu.org/2010/02/01/two-arrests-made-after-explosives-found-on-tracks/
Correction; The student newspaper editor’s correct spelling of name is Katharine Thisdell or Katie Thisdell for short. (300 of the pictures seized were propertied to be unrelated to the riots)
I’d like to respond to Frank Speaker, Apr 20 post at 10:54 am. As for the shirt being in the dumpster and someone retrieving it and then leaving it. I would think at this point that anything is possible. I would have to think that whoever had that shirt had to of obtained it on the horrible night Morgan was killed. In getting rid of it, they would have either made sure it was gone for good, or placed well and found. It’s placement on the bush in the middle of the day does not answer to either scenario for me. So perhaps it was in the dumpster, in a garbage bag that was opened and then that person placed it for others? I don’t know. I don’t know anyone who goes through dumpsters for treasures. But I still have a problem thinking it was carefully placed on the bush to be found, sounds very risky and takes too much of a chance.
I understand what you are saying in reference to what younger women wear. I do believe it has an affect on how they are perceived and how they are approached by others. However, I agree with Mom3.0 that rape is an act of violence against all age groups regardless of attire.
The age range of teen to twenty something leads me to think of date or acquaintance rape. My thoughts are that inappropriate dress could be combined with inappropriate behavior, leading to poor choices which put them in a position that leads to violence against them. For example, they dress in provocative clothing to get into a nightclub they don’t usually go to, they drink too much once in there, or something is put into their drink. Now they are not in control of themselves or their situation. They have left themselves open to be taken advantage of. It could happen while they are covered head to toe just as easily, but usually happens when they have put a lot into their appearance to look nice. I hope this came out right, because I would never blame the victim, ever.
http://findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?p=50250&posted=1#post50250
Hey Redly, thanks for posting the above link. Amherst is of interest because of its proximity to Lynchburg and its placement along 29S. It’s of particular interest to me b/c there is one RSO with surname Cash who is incarcerated there (you all remember we have another with same surname living in W’boro and working in C’ville, alongside our NG FFs), and IIRC Jason Cash had altercations in Amherst Co as well. I know that is not an uncommon last name, esp in Virginia, but given Jason Cash, well … it’s of interest to me. Still no idea whether related to Morgan, though.
I’m going to look into these two, but did anyone explain to the poster on FindMorgan that the DDO (dead dog owner) was never believed to be in Peru?
Frank Speaker says:
April 22, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Skyler — Again congratulate you on your prose and conclusion regarding Mr Bass . That is the position i took here from the get go and was severly attacked here from all quarters for defending the innocent . I also felt it was one lone con artist who did all this .
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Frank, there may have been some people who disagreed with you but just wanted to say, it wasn’t all quarters, I remember reading it and thinking it made good sense and I have felt the same way right from the beginning. I guess I usually just read and don’t post too much, I’m sure there were others at the time who thought the same, also. Just thought I’d mention.
after seeing this story on our local news, i am reminded that ruling out a student or student/athlete would be irresponsible…
http://www.kcra.com/news/23235493/detail.html
Three area law enforcement agencies are searching for an Amherst County man who is considered dangerous.
Donald Lee Peters Jr., 37, is wanted for failing to register as a sex offender, possession of a weapon by a convicted felon and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. He was last known to live on Pendleton Drive in Amherst County, but his current whereabouts are unknown.
Peters has outstanding warrants from the Amherst County Sheriff’s Office, Campbell County Sheriff’s Office and Virginia State Police. In a news release issued Friday, officials said they are concerned about him because of his pending weapons violations and because his sex offender status is violent in nature.
The general public is urged not to approach him if seen, but to call local law enforcement or the confidential Crime Stoppers hotline, (888) 798-5900.
Crime Stoppers will pay up to $1,000 for information.
Peters is described as 5 feet, 10 inches, 170 pounds, with brown hair and hazel eyes. According to the state’s sex offender registry, he was convicted in 2001 of taking indecent liberties with a child with whom he had a custodial relationship.
http://www2.neweraprogress.com/news/2009/nov/11/authorities_continue_search_for_amherst_county_man-ar-1333/
4.In Memory of Gini says:
April 23, 2010 at 10:34 am
http://www.nbc29.com/global/story.asp?s=12360924
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FWIW, Dakoda is FB friends with the DDO from Sutherland, who has his own record.
Please let this be a step in the right direction.
only got a second break from work — was quickly reading and saw how Mary *accidentally* got me confused w/ the bookkeeper — Mary, we’re absolutely cool. Actually, it’s a logical deduction — except for the fact the bookkeeper said she was going to “attend” the Metallica concert — believe me when I tell you, I would not have paid $200 for a ticket to see the rock Gods themselves — it was hard enough hearing it from the parking lot at the EconoLodge — now, had it been my guy Barry M, that’s a different story altogether …. : )
I wish it had been me — believe me, you guys would have heard everything I knew and saw way back in Nov. — I wish it would have been me so I could have observed Morgan’s demeanor at that time — I wish I would have been me because I would have rolled down the window and asked that girl: what are you doing w/ those boys — can I help you ?
I have gone in person to Copeley Bridge and let me tell you — that RV lot is out of the way and over in the corner — there is no earthly reason that girl should have been in that parking lot for any reason, unless she went there for a purpose. And no reason for her purse to have been found in the Cage Lot, either. It’s like walking in a figure 8 pattern, when the easiest line of travel from jpj to Copeley is a straight, diagonal line —
I know it’s not a popular theory w/ everyone, but I don’t believe there is any type of “cover up” on behalf of UVA — simply because a crime occurs on UVA property, doesn’t mean that UVA is responsible for the prevention or commission of that crime, or that UVA can reasonably expect that a crime of this nature is going to be committed, and they failed to take actions to prevent it. So I don’t think UVA is pushing to have Morgan’s last known sighting on Copeley as opposed to the RV parking lot.
What I do find interesting, however, is the drug busts in Albemarle. I’ve long held the position that it’s my belief Morgan left that arena to purchase drugs, that she did not know she would not be able to regain entry into the arena; that when Sara Snead called Morgan and Morgan explained she was outside and Snead refused to come be w/ her, that it ticked Morgan off and she said: fine, I’ll party and the person selling the drugs said: hey, the weather is bad, it’s cold, come w/ us/me and we’ll bring you back after the concert. I believe Morgan’s conversation w/ Sara ended in them agreeing to meet up after the concert — why else would Sara and company wait for up to three hours in the parking lot if they thought Morgan was going to HH “home” ???
But somebody named “Dakota” sent me a message on craigslist, of all places, stating they’d been banned from posting at the Hook and here — I wonder if that’s the same “Dakota” as the drug busted Dakota ?
Dakota, if you’re reading here and you have any knowledge whatsoever about Morgan’s whereabouts that night — sing for your supper w/ LE —
remember, the first one to “sing” gets the deal …
Eloise says:
April 23, 2010 at 1:27 pm
RE: When we’re mentioning bombs and military in the same sentence, the first thing that comes to mind is the brother of I.S. who is actively in the military and works in an explosives/K9 Disposal unit per his MySpace page. -Who is from Charlottesville as well.
SORRY! I mistyped in my 4/12 @2:46. Blurgh.
Meant to say
“… did anyone explain to the poster on FindMorgan that the DDO (dead dog owner) was never believed to be in PUERTO RICO?”
PERU is exactly where he says he was.
Word Girl — I never once here spoke disrespectfully of any gender ,never called any group a derogatory name NEVER EVER thank you very much . In the same token of your high standard perhaps you can rationalize your own name calling though. You clearly were meaning to disrespect and demean by referring to ” OUT OF TOUCH OLD FARTS” Perhaps you can describe the specific abuser you are by those words .
Now this is interesting…(It’s from 2008) But the names are familiar once again…
Two men have been charged for breaking and entering at a Waynesboro apartment Tuesday morning.
Waynesboro Police arrested 21-one-year-old Steven D. Shiflett and 19-year-old Justin T. Cash Tuesday.
Police say the two men cut a window screen and broke the glass to get into an apartment at the Brandon Ladd Apartments. The men are accused of stealing a Play Station 2, several games for the system, more than 100 DVDs, two 12-packs of beer and a 380 semi-automatic handgun from the apartment.
The victim originally said he didn’t have any idea of who might have broken in, but he later thought of someone and he followed up on his idea. When the victim arrived at a home in the 100 block of James Avenue, police say he spotted several DVDs and games in the bed of a pick-up truck.
One suspect fled on foot and the police captured him near Tenth Street.
Police searched the James Avenue home for evidence, but they found semi-automatic handgun near some railroad tracks, where the suspect is believed to have hidden it as well as another firearm.
Police say the second firearm is one of two World War II-era guns that were stolen from a home in the 1800 block of West Main Street on either August 1 or 2.
Another search of a house in the 1700 block of Talbot Place produced the second World War II gun.
Shiflett and Cash face charges of grand larceny and breaking and entering. Cash also is charged with felony theft of a firearm.
Police say charges are pending for the break in on West Main Street.
http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/27234354.html
#6: Saramom says:
April 23, 2010 at 10:49 am
“My only thoughts have been the bad guys in black. I am trying to think about these mystery men in a different context–if they weren’t wearing unifoms, could they have attended a funeral or wake (dark clothing?)–could they have been dressed the way the were because they were participating in some sort of fraternity thing. It may have just been guys in jeans and t’s.”
Has anyone looked into who got married that afternoon on the campus? Could BIB be part of wedding party or guests?
Blink, thanks for responding to my question about the BIB. I only wish VSP would come out and respond to it. If nothing else, I feel it would alleviate some of the public scrutiny of LE and conjecture that the case is going cold. On the other hand, perhaps they could care less what the public thinks… however, it WAS them who raised the issue of “building a relationship” and “trust” between they and the community.
What is your opinion concerning the release of these names? Do you feel, if these individuals were involved, that having their names released would threaten a successful prosecution? Do you feel that the trial in the court of public opinion would jeopardize the investigation and criminal trial? IMO, there is no way the defense would allow this trial to go forth in Charlottesville. The first thing they’ll ask is for a change of venue anyways. OR do you think that the names SHOULD be released to the public, in hopes that public pressure on them, their friends, and family would push the case forward. It is possible that once these names were made public… that some local people may have an “aha!” moment and put something of value together that adds to the investigation. Perhaps the “friends” and “families” of these individuals would start turning on eachother, or be more willing to talk. More willing to DEAL. As it is, they are being allowed to hide and carry on their daily routines. Maybe neighbors would feel more comfortable coming forward with suspicions, or things they’ve seen or heard, once the names were out.
There are pros and cons to both opinions. What is yours?
Suz—Good logic there we can only speculate. I just retuned in here a couple of days ago to see if there is any headway .The T-shirt announcement must be major issue from the point of view of LE.Trying to figure out why the timing . LE must have kown since Dec that it belonged to M . Why let out the info now ? I am trying to think positive . Thinking they recently received results from the testing in relation to the farm samples . If they just pull the person in now LE will lose the benefit of huge bonars he can make while he is now under severe stress . Like reconfirming with accompolices ,seeking advice …etc , and just generally stressing him out so they can do a sting , make him want to get the story finally off his chest .
Sadieblue —Thanks for the rational response . Many incorrectly jump to the conclusion that the victum in these cases is being blamed in one fashion or other then they launch into a big long speil about no means no etc . They are generally preaching to the converted ,those civilized persons that are respectful of others rights . Unfortunately the animals who commit these crimes go by their own code of the jungle . There are lessons of prevention to be learned after tragedies happen . For crazed Alcholics like JV Mitchell and others to scream only one facet of the subject into our living rooms i suggest they are just sending more naive victums into the valley of death . I often hear of beautiful women raped and or murdered while jogging alone in a wooded trial . I never hear of one victmized whole jogging in similiar areas in a group or with a big German Sheppard . Folks in my area jog in large groups all hours of the day . It is a relatively safe area , but one can never be too safe .
Personally, I always viewed the “in black” description of the four to mean they were in jeans and black t-shirts.
Been lurking still but wanted to say BRAVO to Mom.30 about her rape statistics and add a few of my own if I may.
One in three college sexual assaults are committed by athletes. (Benedict/Crosset Study)
In 1995, while only 8.5% of the general population was charged with assault, 36.8% of athletes were charged with assault.
The general population has a conviction rate of 80%. The conviction rate of an athlete is 38%. (Benedict/Crosset Study)
Did you know that…
The most common penalties employed by four-year
(residential) institutions include expulsion, suspension,
and administrative actions such as no-contact orders. Only
a minority of them impose sanctions of athletic teams…”
(US Dept. of Justice Study on Campus Sexual Assault)
Among the 112 schools in the NCAA Division I-A, at least 175 athletes were arrested for a variety of crimes. The largest number for assault, sexual assault, and other forms of violence.
Out of 82 Division I-A schools, only 30 have formal policies on how to deal with athletes accused of committing crimes.
Domestic violence has surpassed all other athlete crimes in the number of reports.
Do I think the UVA BB players did this to Morgan? I can’t rule them out as they were the last known people to speak with her.
I can tell you that my own daughter was sexually assaulted by 2 BB players (she was a band member)from her own team for crying out loud and her University swept it under the rug. Do I see similarities in the current silence and inconsistancies in Morgans case and my daughters? Oh yes I do.
b…do you think that the band FTHTB practiced also at the sutherland house same as the TWBC? i found some photos but don’t want to post or link if not necessary. thanks.
nevermind b/c it looks like someone else’s place…wall colors don’t match.
OK, just was over on findmorgan.com and happen to read some of the posts to our Blink today by other fellow posters and I did not care for the way they were speaking to Blink.
http://findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3251&page=2
The reason why we are all there is because we share a goal, which is to find Morgan’s killers, see justice be served and support the Harringtons. So, why do some people feel the need to attack one another? That is exactly what is wrong with this world – people just don’t know how to be respectfull and kind to one another anymore.
Dear Friend Judi-
TY
B
1.Judi says:
April 23, 2010 at 9:57 am
Define “normal.”
Re: Frank Speaker: IMO Frank Speaker and Joe America are adding a lot more value to this discourse than scores of others. You don’t like their innuendos, fine, but they have a point of view that makes sense to lots of folks.
Re: what does a rape or murder victim look like?
Once in a while I post a brief summary on a cold case –
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/02/04/morgan-harrington-murder-virginia-state-police-press-conference-today/comment-page-26/
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/02/04/morgan-harrington-murder-virginia-state-police-press-conference-today/comment-page-52/
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/04/11/morgan-harrington-murder-coincidences-or-clues/comment-page-16/#comments
One of these consists of two posts on the same page; just click on the link and then look out for my name.
There are links to news websites on each of these posts, and they have photographs. Three of the victims are about Morgan’s age, one is significantly older. They all come from entirely different background, and none of them was in any way wearing “provocative” clothing – a middle aged seamstress was murdered inside her home, a gifted schoolgirl disappeared form the streets in her provincial hometown after attending a church service, and a girl around Morgan’s age gets lost in a busy but equally provincial train station. She was wearing hiking boots and carrying a rucksack. And a young nurse is abducted on a short walk home, also in a very safe neighbourhood.
Thank you everyone for your kind thoughts and prayers.In the past 2 weeks I’ve learned more about rape than I cared to. Rape is not the girl’s fault. It’s the rapist’s fault. Our girls do need to be proactive and look after themselves, but in general we don’t expect bad things to happen to us. Especially when we are young and have the world by a string. Perpetrators look for an easy target and most rape victims know the rapist and maybe have a bond of trust. Morgan probably knew her BG and she was an easy target that night. Even if our daughters make themselves an easy target with drinking or drugs, rape is never their fault. I think anyone who wants to rape an unconscious person is just one step away from wanting to rape a dead person.
Fish, hi! Thanks so much for the info about the RV Lot. I work for doctors and it is so refreshing to meet a doctor’s wife who is down to earth (or water as the case may be) and real!
Sky, thank goodness! I thank you too for the RV Lot info and for every word you have posted over the course of these last 6 months.
To all who have answered Frank Speaker so eloquently, thank you. I hope he has read the information and retained some of it. Frank, surely you and your smart friend, JoeAmerica, must realize how you come across at times. I have to agree with you that there are smart people on this site, but you have obviously not been following along if you think there are only 2 or 3. I actually respected JA when he first started posting but I have to disagree with his assessment that he has to “wade” through a lot of stuff to get to a nugget of insight. The research capabilities on this site are phenomenal. Any one of the links, questions, videos, pictures, and other information could possibly be the one that is desperately needed. Who among us really knows (other than Blink of course and we know if she did know, she would under no circumstances jeopardize an investigation).
I have to give you a little bit of a pass. After all, your name is “Frank Speaker” and with a name like that….but I agree with Word Girl that you are not to be coddled. So frankly, Frank, get into the 21st century regarding gender issues, get your friend JA on board, the two of you please try to not be so abrasive and HELP US FIND THE PERSON(S) WHO DID THIS TO MORGAN HARRINGTON!
Mom — It is a myth that many of the myths stated in the survey are widely held . Many of their myths/facts are self contradicting and there is absolutely no mention of how to aleviate and reduce the FACT aspect . I was tring to keep mainstream talking about the highest incidence of rape victum who are female mid teen to mid twenty . When referring to older women i was referring to those above that group .The rates of female rape victum tend to decrease beyond mid twenties . There are a multitude of reasons but to list them would surely produce cries of offensiveness . The list of possible victums is so extensively watered down i was expecting to see Mr Bass’s cows and the knot holes in his wooden fences . The idea that women ask or deserve to be raped has long since been debunked . Re-debunking it after each every rape/murder is a moot point as the damage is done and actual emphasis needs placed in the area of prevention . You have quite clearly got the Utopian Kool Aid gate valve turned hard to the right . If the message doesn’t cause dangerous fatalism then the volume would surely drown . Fact is there is plenty that can be done to prevent and reduce the incidence of these crimes .