Morgan Harrington Murder: Coincidences or Clues ?
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North Garden, VA– Morgan Harrington, the 20 year old fair-haired, radiant beauty, was brutally murdered after disappearing from the John Paul Jones arena the evening of October 17, 2009.
Morgans remains were recovered the morning of January 26, 2010 in a hayfield on Anchorage Farm, owned by David and Nancy Bass.
Since Morgan was found by Mr. Bass that blackest of days in January, there has been rampant speculation about her last hours and how she ended up in the creek bed of total strangers.
A sequence of events and incidents in the days and hours preceding and following the January 26, 2010, discovery of Morgan Harrington’s skeletal remains on Anchorage Farm continues to attract attention from pundits and volunteers dedicated to Morgan’s cause.
Although naysayers point to a lack of a viable connection, and police have disavowed a link, others say emergency services runs to a nearby fire and also other responses which are not supported by publicly available documentation has led to calls for more complete disclosure to eliminate any connection or chance of prank calls to misdirect or busy first responders.
The editors of www.blinkoncrime.com present a series of events occurring in Albemarle County, VA that pose the question:
What the Hell is going on and what does it have to do with Morgan Harrington’s murder?
The Monsoons of Albemarle County …. PD
Ok, maybe I meant “The monsoor”. Karl Monsoor that is.
Former Officer Karl Monsoor had been tugging on the shirtail of ACPD for years before he finally left with pocketfuls of sunshine. Almost 500 G’s.
It is not my intention to be glib, it is my intention to say that as one of the youngest police departments in the country, enacted in 1983, this tank needed algeacide before this past March.
Death By Cop.. January 1, 2010
Colby Eppard, described by some as a cross between Gomer Pyle and cool hand luke, had the rawest of deals growing up in Greene County.
According to his foster-mommy-aunt, Tammy Harlow Cox, Colby was hit by a car at a very young age and suffered a brain injury that apparently served to shape his future of home upheavel and juvenile detention facilities.
Ms. Cox, to whom Colby Eppard was entrusted for a time as a foster parent, is no stranger to the judicial system. Tammy was arrested for admittedly having sex with 3 High School seniors athletes on the Varsity Football Team, where her own sons attended. The same school Colby elected to leave without his diploma.
Colby’s family recalls better times, and I don’t think anyone believes this is the last we have heard of this case.
Specifically under VA statute, Greene County Captain Randall Snead was out of his jurisdiction, both when he was called about Colby stealing the patrol car and the fact that he was in North Garden, Albemarle County, looking for it. It would seem the Greene County Roster could accommodate a deputy vs. a captain to respond, no? Keep in mind, EVERY responding officer was put on desk duty pending the investigation, through at least February 9th, 2010.
While the attorney for the Commonwealth, Denise Lunsford has cleared all officers from all participating counties involved, none of the dash cams have been released despite requests through The Freedom of Information Act..
According to Ms. Lunsford, in an incident that spanned almost 70 miles and over 2 and a half hours where traffic was rerouted and stringers were used, Colby Eppard was allegedly wielding the 20 gauge Greene County Issue out the windows, not one LEO attempted to engage or respond to Eppard in an effort to get him to pull over, or negotiate his surrender at any time.
In fact, according to statements from Snead, Albemarle Deputies Fields and Marden, they were all in place on the south junction of 20 “in the event” he went that way, yet, they did not block traffic until after the stinger caused Eppard to crash.
My biggest question regarding this incident is: Did anyone ask Colby Eppard why he would take the truck and 2 rifles on New Years day ending up in Albemarle County?
Was it related to a New Years Eve occurrance of a friend, family member or associate of his? After Sgt. Hutchinson loses Eppard near the Nelson line, the next time he is seen is parked on Green Creek Rd, back in Albemarle.
What route did he take from 29 South to end up there? Was he seeking Red Hill Road where the overdose call came in to EMS the night before?
By all accounts he was a troubled young man with challenges throughout his young 18 years.
Additionally corroborated by those that knew him, he was never violent to anyone. There were over 6 Law Enforcement Officers from 4 different jurisdictions this man encountered before he hit just below Carters Bridge; 14 by the time the stolen vehicle ended up in the ditch.
Not one of them spoke or attempted to speak to Colby Wade Eppard at anytime he was on the police radio for over 2 hours. Was there an order given not to?
How is it that not one officer responded to Eppards threats, which were even being monitored by the media at this point in an effort to have a peaceful result to this situation?
Did Eppard have a cell phone with him and have the records been checked?
Did he call anyone, like Amber Rogers, his off-again girlfriend of 3 years? His brother Courtney or any of his friends?
In the preliminary release by the Virginia State Police, it stated Eppard returned to his crashed 2006 Ford Ranger truck prior to stealing the unmarked Green Cty car. If he were attempting to have a police stand off, why would he not take the two rifles he brought with him? He left his guns behind.
It also states in the report that Eppard is seen on the video from the STOLEN police car retrieving the shotgun from the trunk and loading it, how is that possible considering all the cameras are dash mounted?
Can someone explain to me how the officers have been cleared, but the footage of both Eppards actions and their responses, the very evidence of the incident cannot be released? One of the officers involved, Caleb Marden, was fired for reasons nobody is willing to comment on.
There is only ONE way that is legal; if is part of an ONGOING investigation.
So what investigation is it an active part of?
(Editors note: If Mr. Eppard put ANYONE’s safety at risk through his actions, in the end, I say what happened to him was done to protect others, which I support. That said, as it was not so long ago a Virginia Conservation Officer was indicted for the involuntary manslaughter of a 16 year old kid whose girlfriend he was trying to grab out of his moving car, and later had the charges dismissed, I think it is worthy of conversation.)
Byrd Watching DungSmoke – January 22, 2010
James Byrd Gunn, resident or squatter at 5027 Stoney Point Rd, Barboursville, VA owned by Piedmont Manor Land Trust, was busted for possession of Marijuana with intent to deliver, and possession of a firearm as a felon.
TODAY, Mr. Big Gunn is on the Run-Run. He was indicted on both counts Monday and declared a fugitive this afternoon.
CR10000107-00 GUNN, JAMES BYRD POSSESS MARIJUANA W/INTENT 06/07/2010 Active
CR10000169-00 GUNN, JAMES BYRD FELON W/ A FIREARM 04/08/2010 Fugitive
In a SEPERATE arrest on January 23rd, 2010, Jeremy Manning– Smith 
(JMS) with the cool 144 acre pad in Keswick, also indicted on 4/5/2010 , may turn to the fivefold plan to help him out. JMS keeps a cool $55K recession-proof wad around for emergencies. Mr. Manning-Smith is a long time composter, although he never really states what he is growing.
Lisa Powers, copperworks and the fivefold planners say burn the dung. They are pals, although I doubt she is securing his bond.
Cash Runs OUT.. January 24th, 2010
Jason Todd Cash, with NO CHARGES OR WARRANTS PENDING allegedly tries to kill a cop when he is stopped in Nelson Cty in a vehicle registered to someone in Buckingham County. Remind you of anyone? He ran from the scene, leaving the vehicle and eluded police on foot.
The vehicle was impounded. He apparently is driving on a revoked license, which county has that occurred in? We will get back to J-money.
NON Garden Party…. January 25th
At approximately 10PM on the evening of January 25, Albemarle County Fire and rescue services responds to a call at the 37 acre farm of award winning gardening and horticulture experts John Sauer and his wife Cathy Clary. It is listed as a tactical incident rescue and as of March 24, 2010 is still an open incident. What was it? Who or what needed rescuing?
Mr. Sauer is the long-time gardner for Carr’s Hill, the residence of the President of UVA. Carr’s Hill was the former site of the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity until 2003 when it was moved by the city to it’s current location on Culbreth. Ms. Clary is a horticulture proffessor at UVA, and most recently taught a home landscaping course which included a field trip the afternoon of Saturday October 17, 2009.
The Sauers are also members of Piedmont Landscaping Association, which is open to anyone in the landscaping field and the Virginia Cooperative Extension.
Interestingly enough, there were several fire alarm activations on the UVA campus on this same day. Faulkner House reported a residential fire around 4:10 am.
Threes Company, Four is Combustible..Jan 26th
Sometime after 10PM, the residential fire at 3323 Sutherland Rd breaks out.
This would be the fire that is still an OPEN INCIDENT.
This fire,as you can see, was no curling-iron-left-on.
It allegedly started after the residents were asleep, although they had all apparently packed their belongings and were on a month to month lease, 2 had already moved out.
In fact, according to Peruvian vacationer and dog owner of Blanca, the pit bull that perished in the blaze, he was not aware of the fire until days after the fact because he was with friends in Peru.
Convenient, if you ask me, as he has a previous weed distribution and subsequent traffic charge in December 2009.
Meet new pup to the left. In fairness to fair-weather k9’s of America, he was only asking for dog-sitting, and not on the lease. Choose your kenneling wisely people.
The residential fire at the 3000 block of Sutherland Rd has some issues. For starters, you have the first press release regarding the possible accidental fire since as far back as 2003 before a cause determination has been made.
Additionally the release itself appears to have missed the fact that approximately 2 hours after the last apparatus departs, there is an additional call back to the property requiring 12 responders within minutes of the discovery of Morgan Harrington’s remains. They may have literally passed each other on Route 29; they definitely would have heard the dispatcher.
The former owner of the Sutherland property is buried on Anchorage Farm. A relative of the current owners has hunted the Anchorage Farm property.
The band in the image on the left is pictured practicing in the Sutherland home.
A firefighter, whose identity blinkoncrime is choosing to withhold, who fought the fire, without sleeping took an impromptu trip to New Jersey with his ..”aunt, uncle, cousin, his cousins uncle and a friend..” at 10:23PM January 27th, driving straight through without stopping and returned to North Garden by 1:45PM January 28th. Through his own facebook postings, he spends the bulk of his time when he is not volunteering for the North Garden Fire Department at his cousins; a Toco Hill address also listed as the home for a recently released registered sex offender.
Retired Greene Sheriff Takes His Own Life.. January 28
There is no evidence to suggest that William “Willie” Linwood Morris’s suicide has anything in common with the Morgan Harrington’s case directly, with the exception that there are obviously folks that knew him as well as other individuals being discussed. I have spoken with a family member, and an individual who has known him for twenty years and by those accounts Willie was in deep discomfort from the tinnicus he suffered from.
He took care of every detail prior to ending his life behind the barn on his farm in Stanardsville, VA, including withdrawing the cash for his own funeral.
Willie Morris was found by Captain Randall Snead, who was allegedly supposed to be on desk duty until the Eppard case investigation was completed. According to Commonwealth Attorney Denise Lunsford, that was not completed until February 9, 2010, almost 2 weeks later.
Cash is Busted on a Tip.. March 19
Not long out of Nelson County jail for a non-violent offense, Jason Todd Cash is being held in Albemarle County jail since his arrest around 1am the morning of Friday March 19.
One has to wonder if the tip about where Jmoney was hanging out on Secretary Sand Rd from his kin in Amherst.
Clint Cash, a registered sex offender was arrested in December on a felony parole violation and is facing some heavy time . His wife Donna, had just pled guilty to a misdemeanor the day before the tip came in regarding JT Cash’s whereabouts and received a suspended sentence.
Jason Cash was apprehended with help from Bink, the new Albemarle County k9 when the house he was staying in on Secretary Sands was raided and he attempted to stay hidden inside.
What are Coincidences… What are clues?
The aforementioned volunteer for NGVFD lives in same stretch of Secretary Sands Rd.
Yet another relative of Jason Cash, a registered Sex Offender, shares an employer with the cousin of “volunteer”, and volunteer; specializing in outdoor landscape lighting.
Colby Eppard was stopped in the area of Green Creek Rd that is a large parcel of land owned by Cash family member.
As far as making allegations in this report, there are none. The investigation of the events contained herein are entirely based on public information and witness accounts.
I have come to the conclusion that while we cannot say specifically which one of the issues discussed directly relate to the murder of Morgan Harrington, a primary or secondary scene integral to the investigation of same, and the hunt for her killer(s), but I do believe the incidents need to explored fully in a public forum.
Jason Mateos and Elizabeth Morton contributing editors to this report.
Blinkoncrime.com posters justice for morgan and juliemooly contributed research credits.
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Wow at catching Morgan on the video inside the arena during Log and kissing her friend on the cheek just like her friends stated. I’m speachless. Great job!!
Mom3.0: Do you remember seeing Morgan walk away into the darkness from this area? Remember a long time ago, watching it? This is the video shot of where the kiss happens. She doesn’t look to be so irrational here. Does she?
From the time of that shot to the time she walks to bathroom to the time she is out of arena…how long would that be?
Ans: A short period of time!
Something happened pretty drastically in that short period of time to change the events of her night.
Now put me outside and her paths taken…who walked those with her?
I would like to ask the UVA bbplayers again, if they remember seeing anyone. Stupid question, I know.
Blink: Remember the girl walking around for LOG taking photos? She was on this side of the stage beyond the barrier. Could she have a clearer shot? LOG was also filming for the video release, were they not.
Mom3:0: You ROCK!
Blink: will you link the podcast when you can?
LLL–http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2009/07/21/out-to-pasture-bundoran-redefihttp://www.c-ville.com/index.php?cat=1990502072917840&ShowArticle_ID=11800204104122617nes-house-and-farm/#comments
I am still like a dog with a bone. Above are links re Bundoran–I can’t shake the feeling that someone made darn sure that Miss M. wasn’t placed on this highly prized property–way too much at stake.
Any thoughts?
*So the girls were not up in their seating section and is that Dan C, is the white shirt behind them?
Could LE have narrowed down, i.e. elimination process, the bib because they were no longer in any video after this LOG song?
I’m thinking that we are closer to a resolution. I pray that we are. It is not about, Oh we have her on video but think of all the time spent on bantering back and forth, if she even made it to JPJA. I am even more convinced now that the closest photo or video of someone that is missing is so very important! It places them in that spot, without relying on eyewitnesses, that could be mistaken. Look how many girls that were mistaken for Morgan that night.
Blink – here is another video shot from a different user that was in the same section as the video that Mom3.0 spotted (awesome job by the way Mom). Now that we know exactly where she was (behind the drummer), it is easier to look for her in the youtube videos. I’m not sure if this video provides any better angles but it might be worth enhancing as well to see if there is additional info. Morgan will be in the same area of your screen as the other video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYRb_mzcplE&feature=related
Hey there, Kudos to Mom 3.0 for spotting Morgan. I remember when you & Fish etal were looking at these specific shots, I never could see a thing. But with the screen shots & step by step I can see the * kiss & hug*. And then when the lights went dark & she was gone, it was an incredibly empty feeling. Rather suprised me, like the end of the story was going to turn out differently by actually seeing her there.
If anyone is in the mood, I was looking at LOG #1 closely, b/c this one gave me trouble in finding her as opposed to LOG 2#. In looking at #1, the person I CAN depict to possibly being Morgan appeared to be alone, standing. Standing on the floor? I am not sure. But is this how you all see her in this one? Starts initially at .38 sec. After a time, this individual, who clearly does not have pants on, looks like dark legs, but she seems to tippy-toe up, left & away from the stage, like she is looking for someone. Anyway, if these videos are chronological from this one videographer, one can assume it could be prior to #2, and maybe before they sat? I am really trying to ID her in this one, and see if she is chatting with anyone. Additionally, in #2, does anyone find Morgan is unseen for a brief period and then returns to the kiss & hug part?
After the kiss & hug, I felt stronger than ever thaat she may in fact have been departing for a brief period. All the hugging & such and only to Amy. It could be due to the power of suggestion one gets when seeing a ‘hello or goodbye’. Ah.., just rambling, feeling pretty melancholy past 2 days. Proud of my fellow Blinkers, terrific work.
Log #1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKq75zazjSE&NR=1
You dont have to post this unless you feel it would be okay. This is just to further Clarify- I read the thread on FM.com thanks for the link and for acknowledging me-
But the still you have is wrong. There are only two girls shown in the 2nd vid. If one is Morgan than she has to be the same size as the othe one to her right that she hugs. There are two boys in white next to the hugging girls(left side of screen) one closest to the girls has dark horizontal stripes on his shirt.
I Believe you CAN see Morgan in the first video. You can see a man, to the left of Morgan,then next to him who I think is Morgan in Black. Morgan on the left of 2 other girls- in the middle is SS then closet to the stairs is another friend AM
Remember to stop play stop play
In first vid o:22 first see top of Morgan’s head.0:27 see Morgans group highlighted left of stairs. See them highlighted until 0:33. Again at 0:35-0:37 highlighted again 0:38 1:00-1:05 see Morgan move back and forth to railing. Something like a ong string is in her hand- possible key chain? see it 1:04-1:05 The group is seen in light until 1:12. 1:30 Morgans group is seen until1:35 at 1:35-1:45 watch SS she is leaning right taking to friend. 2:06 group highlighted again. 2:06 -2:07 watch SS take pic. 2:10 see SS lean to friend on right closet to stairs. 2:14 group high lighted again. 2:16 Morgan’s legs are highlighted. 2:17- 2:18 possible Morgan hair flip with left hand. 2:20 see reflection of camera screen. 2:21 Morgan’s hair highlighted. 2:56 silhouette of Morgan’s leg, at same time see SS watchs screen of camera until 2:58 (2:57-3:00) Morgan leans DOWN to SS on right. At 3:04 – 3:05 Morgan turns to her left toward someone in a blue shirt until 3:08 she is highlighted. At 3:08 she turns quickly behind her to the right.
3:09-3:10 Morgan seems to sway back and forth slowly looking then toward the ceiling. 3:101-3:11 she moves her right leg quickly to the left. At 3:11 she lifts her leg up- 3:11 She turns sideways to the left she seems to be loosing her balance. At 3:12 her leg is lit in blue light IMO she looks like she has fainted. Screen goes dark -
When the light comes up again I can not see the group at 3:17-3:22 people from that area seem to move very quickly down stairs and toward stage diagonally existing toward the left upper screen nearest stage- After this I no longer see the person I believe to be Morgan.
Please have your guy review this I know I am right- if this group in vid 1 is Morgan’s group I believe she faints.
I am not sure if the second vid is Morgan it is the same area- perhaps it is only SS and AM and Morgan is in the Bathroom.
2nd vid 1:26 hugging girl group first seen 2 men to the left of them in white shirts one closet has horizontal black stripes. 1:31 See stripped shirt guy lean left to talk with other white shirt guy.1:57 see group of 4 2 guys in white 2 girls 1:58 see stripes on guys shirt. 2:42 see girl closest to BIW flip hair. 3:08 girls hug talk or kiss notice neither one needs to lean down- appears to be close to same height 3:14 guy in blue from first video shoulder highlighted. 3:25 girls hug kiss talk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKq75zazjSE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPSTJkmCtBM&feature=related
I realize this is alot to look through. Blink I just want to make sure it is right- Thank you
I think your telling me I juxtaposed the still and referenced the wrong video?
I have reviewed this a few times, and I tend to agree with you, I wanted to put it out there for digestion.
Shoot, it doesn’t seem to square with the section number they were in (312). Check out this 3D chart https://www.seats3d.com/ncaa/university_virginia/
I’m gonna’ sadly say it’s still not Morgan.
Nobody was in their seats yet. Hang in, reviewing more.
B
What row were they in? Surely there’s no harm in releasing that info, is there?
If grandmothers and working moms found it, why couldn’t the constabulary?
I just do not have an answer for that, Redrock.
For me, if you don’t know how Morgan got outside, I am very interested in her last contacts around her.
B
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/92241364.html
“Morgan Harrington’s Memory Lives On; Story Back in National Spotlight”
(from Newsplex/Local channel CBS 19; it’s a summary of the Cosmo article, but I sure like that headline and knowing that they put Morgan’s face on the local news again)
Good Morning Blink and All
Thanks Blink for answering my question from the following post:
Josie says:
April 27, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Blink, do you feel like an arrest is getting close? J4M
Every time I answer that, I take a beating, lol.
I feel like there is so much going on in this area right now even I am dumbfounded.
B
I have a tendency to read behind the lines. I certainly don’t want you to take a beating, so I’ll say it. I think it’s getting much closer. The fact that there is so much going on, IMO, while making our heads swim is encouraging. In other words bad news is good news. It tells me LE is working really hard. I think the investigation into Morgan’s murder is leading them to a lot of sleaze and illegal doings. I really believe these guys are talking to save their own asses. Don’t you imagine the location, location, location presser has caused a lot of people to talk to LE about suspicious goings on in the neighborhood? Every day now the puzzle fits together a little more.
Great work on the video and pics Blink and Mom3 and all the others that worked so hard. I well remember the rounds of video viewing and how I tried to see Morgan and her friends. When I viewed them and we would think we had spotted Morgan, I always felt overcome with sadness, knowing what was to come of our dear Morgan. God bless that sweet child. Thanks for people with the ability to view these over and over and stick with it. Praying that there’s verification that it is Morgan, Sarah and Amy. Then we will at least know for sure that Morgan was there. What with no video from JPJA showing Morgan, it has been questionable, IMO. Hopefully that can be laid to rest.
Great work guys and girls. J4M
Morgan does not look impaired to me in the few seconds you see her in the video.
Don’t understand why LE is not interested in what happpened inside the arena.
Something made her leave – confusion from date rape drug, head injury, now news that something happened in the bathroom (what?? A fight with someone), what made her leave in the first place. How is this not important?
It’s to my understanding the only videos officially confirmed as D were the images released by Nancy Grace. It is difficult to believe D at all because half the time she doesn’t know if she’s coming or going. Most of the videos do not show with certainty Morgan had her leggings on and one cannot rule out the possibility she didn’t for whatever reason.
Q on fm had a great idea about trying to trace her path throughout the concert based on the videos recorded. At one point Q had shown a side profile image of a blonde (unsure of song) that I believe is the mate to this video taken from another angle. For all we know D and her friends could have simply been standing near her at the time in being mutual friends of Dan.
This video was from the song laid to rest (3rd to last song & fits the Le timeline of her being seen outside).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YliWr2e5ufE (3:07-3:17)
If you watch closely a camera flash (3:03) can be seen which means to me a clear image of Morgan may exist and of the people around her. Imo at this point based on the people surrounding her she was accosted or hit in the dark and quickly escorted or rushed through the exit one can see behind her.(Somewhere it’s stated it takes 7 seconds to disappear) It’s dark, busy and too loud for anyone to notice or intefere especially if it was security that did so. Before Morgan could shake her head and say who, huh, what? she was taken out of the arena. Was she mistaken for someone else? Good luck to anyone in trying to explain to JPJ staff it wasn’t you. In hindsight, if it were me, I would be royally pi**ed off too. This act may also explain the strap on her purse being broken with no signs of a struggle where it was found.
Also, it was stated on another forum that l.o.g. released black balloons too after their performance? Perhaps it wasn’t a tarp at all but one of these.
Blink, I have no opinion on whether this is Morgan or not as I am genuinely just left feeling confused by the whole thing. My vision is not the best, and I stop analyzing when I ask myself what difference it makes after all.
Have you an opinion on Rader’s remark about LE being only or mainly concerned with what happened once Morgan left the arena ?
Every time I attempt to watch the videos, my computer just closes the window. Is anyone else unable to view the videos?
Great job Mom3.0! Great job Blink on getting LE to take a closer look! Great job to all who strained your eyes watching those things! I am so proud of all of you right now!
Good Morning,:)
I forgot to mention last night, that I noticed while looking at the Morgon Log video, there is someone right in Morgan’s spot, who is very studiously taking pictures, or at least has their LCD screen lit, like for a video? Could this be a close bystander with a much improved vantage point *or* our Morgan herself? Did anyone else note this? ( I know there are many doing so, I am speaking to the location of one particular camera). This is visible when the pan lights are NOT on that area of the crowd.
Eloise: I see what you mean and I think that this girl is trying to look above everyone’s heads. Maybe to see the stage action. Yes, she does seem to look down the way, (to the right of the screen) but maybe there was some loud people down that way. It seems that there are times during this song that the crowd goes a bit crazy. After all this is a rock concert and you are suppose to be having a kickass time!
E: All the hugging and such from my perspective is that Morgan was a totally unique, caring, loving person. Affectionate, silly, and touchable.
No, I don’t have any information other than looking at a life I should not even be privy too! I feel like I have opened a journal to a life that should be kept personal. I feel sad and melancholy just like you. A missing girl may make for ratings but a dead one breaks my heart in two! And, this is why we do not leave her or her family. They need all the hugging they can get, for sure!!!!!
But like you, I am concerned that someone around her may have become interested in her and since they were never going to stay for the whole concert, well, they may have left. Morgan goes to the bathroom and for whatever reason, falls(a push???)and is disoriented and either is mistaken about the arena doors or someone offers to help her. Maybe at this time, too many eyes are on them so they wait. She tries to get back in and well, we know the rest.
I know that we need facts and not speculation but what else can we do?
Like Blink and team, we keep trying!
E: Since you are looking. If you put your finger on your mouse and hold down, dragging the bar on bottom of screen, you can go second by second and actually hold a frame. Helps you see better.
I’m not a techno geek but have looked at this many times. I do what I do. Hell, I even go back to my SpectraPro monintoring device for my kids and their friends (Blink’s GOF!) and look at it in black and white. Mom3.0 is much better at this and will be able to explain it with making sense.
Fish says:
*So the girls were not up in their seating section and is that Dan C, is the white shirt behind them?
I don’t think they could have been in their seats either if this is Morgan. They had to be down in sections 104 – 105 or sections 114 – 115 depending on which way the stage was oriented. I’ve poured over the photo below a hundred times trying to catch a glimpse of Morgan but I think if she were in it she would be behind the drummer and obscured from site.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hickydoo/4022346636/sizes/l/in/photostream/
If you watch the first Thrashard video, at the 14 sec mark, you see a bald guy in a white shirt with shorter sleeves on the in the aisle raising his arms. You can also see a guy in a cowboy hat sitting in the aisle seat on the left side of the stairwell. I think both of these people show up in the photo. The guy on the stairwell looks to be the guy wearing the white sweatshirt with the sleeves pulled up who is now in the seating area. At the 31 second mark, in the bottom left of your computer screen you can see the railing around the section. If you follow that around to the right, you can see a large section of it in the middle of the screen. This tells me that they were on the floor in these videos as opposed to in the seats as they appear to be in front of the rail.
In the second video, at the 1:29 mark you can see a guy in the aisle seat on the right hand side of the stairway raise his hands in the air. He has on a black shirt that appears to have the sleeves cut off. This guy will show up in the bottom left hand corner of your computer screen. I think you can also make him out in the upper left hand corner of the photo.
I’m convinced this is the right area and that Morgan was on the floor. Hopefully someone else can put a set of eyes on this picture to pull out some additional useable info. I’ve tried to find something but I’m going crosseyed.
I have another one from mom3 we are looking at- I am with you, they were down on the floor for a bit, and after Morgan goes to the BR, they are not on that location any longer, so my guess would be when she went to the loo, they took their seats?
B
I just read comment # 1…….It does seem like she was OK when she left her friends… Like she was going out to meet someone – a romantic interest, maybe…. and he didn’t show up but someone else did. I read some comments and think I have an idea of what happened and then I read new comments and I’m back in the starting gate again.
sueK says:
April 28, 2010 at 10:34 am
Every time I attempt to watch the videos, my computer just closes the window. Is anyone else unable to view the videos?
I have had this problem on other sites, try & hit the Ctrl button when you initiate the site. Some computers are set to block unknown or questionable sites, this has helped me at times. Check your safety settings also.
I have another one from mom3 we are looking at- I am with you, they were down on the floor for a bit, and after Morgan goes to the BR, they are not on that location any longer, so my guess would be when she went to the loo, they took their seats?
B
I agree Blink. This seems early on in the evening, people are just socializing, meeting up etc. I dont think it rules out Morgan just b/c they are not in the ticket location. The arena was still pretty empty.
I have another one from mom3 we are looking at- I am with you, they were down on the floor for a bit, and after Morgan goes to the BR, they are not on that location any longer, so my guess would be when she went to the loo, they took their seats?
B
Blink – Could LE use these photos as a reference for questioning? If we can identify that Morgan was in this section then someone in these photos might remember something that could help the investigation. You can pretty clearly make out the faces and I’m sure that LE could use the ticket sales info and enhance the photos to id several people who were near her at the time.
They definitely can.
B
I don’t know about this arena but I know in arenas where I’ve been to concerts, the ushers are usually not bothered by people coming down to the floor for opening acts. It tends to be a little harder when you try to get down during the main act, but again anyone with a little determination could do it. I have. If that is not Dee in the video, it must be Morgan. I know there were probably hundreds of girls that had long blonde hair, but I reviewed videos on youtube I didn’t come across anyone that could pass as Morgan (other than Dee).
Thank you Elouise!
“I have another one from mom3 we are looking at- I am with you, they were down on the floor for a bit, and after Morgan goes to the BR, they are not on that location any longer, so my guess would be when she went to the loo, they took their seats? B”
Totally understand that LE knew where they were and when they took their seats. After all Sarah, Dan, and Amy would have been able to confirm this to LE!
Could Morgan have been wandering the venue looking for her friends? Maybe Sarah meant this…”We wouldn’t have done it”.
Meaning the left the floor area, took their seats, didn’t inform Morgan.
A series of unfortunate events began to unravel:
Morgan fell, disoriented, tipsy, it’s hot, it’s loud, confused about the doors, found herself outside when she thought she was heading upstairs?
Was Morgan’s ticket accounted for? Purse, hayfield, pocket, friend’s possession?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyrX78sSZR8&feature=related
At 10 seconds in, Morgan back to us with the ponytail, black shirt.
Fish,
That is the opposite side of the stage than the other videos. In the other vids she is by the drum set which is on the opposite side of the stage in yours.
Blink,
what is the significance of confirming that this video is Morgan at this time? This video was circulated a while back with no positive ID. Is it because LE has confirmed that it is her or is there another reason? I thought that the relevance of any video inside was unimportant to LE other than to verify that she was there.
TIA.
I do not have a good answer for that as I do not know-
B
OK, not trying to hog up the internet waves, but I just came to a realization. This video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JScSv7ff9hQ&feature=related clearly depicts a long lighted break after LOG while Metallica is setting up. Accordng to the timeline was this way after her being known to be outside? Or is this a period she would have used to use the BR or whatever. Others more familiar with the timeframe may want to add their thoughts.
(This particular video was what I looked at often, mainly on the far right at that blond w/ off the shoulder black shirt.} Not Morgan.
There is a set list for LOG recently posted on FM I can drag over if that is needed. Just some thoughts.
I’m having a difficult time with the videos, but I do see a blonde lean over and appear to kiss the person beside her.
The still shot linked by HokieHi is amazingly clear, and although you can’t see Morgan behind the drummer, you CAN see several guys in the surrounding area looking DIRECTLY at the spot she would be. Check it out…there’s two not so young guys up in the seats looking that way, a guy along the stage to the right (would be to M’s left), another guy up in the stands on the left…all of them not watching the band but possibly watching Morgan and Co? It’s too bad there’s not a chronological set of stills like that, maybe we could see who approached her, left their seats, etc.
link5150: thanks. yes by the drumset. always thought that was her. just trying to see if she moved around the arena? maybe she walked around inside to get a better vantage point or back to her friends after the bathroom. Hence, confusion that led her outside?
I was thinking that we could put her close to someone, we could enhance a photo of. If she went to bathroom and ended up outside…what bathroom and which doors did she leave from?
I am looking at all videos again. What else can we do? Do you know if anyone has posted shots from outside arena? Even if Morgan and I don’t think there are any, is not in one, we could look to see if there are any bib. Or hey, even a shot of “Kickee”.
FWIW: I think that LE has a clear picture of her inside arena and knew where she was. Morgan did not attend this concert by herself, she was with three others!!!
They could give their location, location, location inside of the arena. We just were not told.
In the still shot, on the far left, in the first fow of actual seats, there are three guys in black tees standing together…the one on the right has his hands in his pockets and is staring in her direction.
You just have to wonder what transpired inside the arena that night…I’ve never for one second thought that it wasn’t important, and don’t understand LE’s belief of such.
Can you link that shot again Georgie please?
B
Has LE confirmed that it is Morgan in the much talked about video?
LE will not comment on the video publicly.
B
fish says:
April 28, 2010 at 2:30 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyrX78sSZR8&feature=related
At 10 seconds in, Morgan back to us with the ponytail, black shirt.
FISH, a couple of questions-
I see pony girl at 10 sec, also looks like a bare leg pony girl. ?
I thought they were closest to the LOG drummers, no?
I think, for me… the reason the significance to seeing M, is it is a nice feeling to spot the person so long sought. It may capture activities/timing/associates previously unknown. Even to us who has a bare minimum of actual facts, it helps. JMO
Blink: I’m hangin in! R you still reviewing? I wonder if there are any shots prior to the concert starting. I believe that there were lighting guys climbing to the top of the ladders dropped down from the ceiling. The lights are up and so visibility is great. Well?
And Gini: Good question. For all our peace of mind, I would like to know where Morgan was inside that arena. It may be unimportant to LE but to those of us that searched for a different outcome, it would help us put another piece of the puzzle of Morgan’s night together.
Maybe each little piece would complete the picture and give us this…In Memory of Morgan.
A picture or video of the day your loved one dies, helps to understand what was happening in the hours or even in some cases, the moments before one leaves or is taken from this world.
Was she happy? Was she content?
In this case, it may only be my selfishness of seeing her but I also have thought that maybe someone could be id’d around her. We do not know.
I have video, no sound, but of a happy moment before she is gone. She was trying to smile and laugh. She was hugging my mother goodbye and eating “teddy grahams”. There is something that just smacked that we were not going to see her again. Maybe it is hindsight.
But it is priceless. So, I don’t care whether it is of a backyard or of a rock concert…to a family it is just important. And, yes we have lots of photos and videos but there is just something about having that last photo.
Call me strange, oh well. It really is no different than hanging onto their last voicemail to you. You hang on every word, memory, and carry photos in your hand until your tears disengrate them and then move to another. I now laminate! I hope that gives people some perspective why Mom3.0 looks as hard as she does. And I don’t mean to speak for Mom or the Harrington Family.
Just my perspective, my opinion and my life experience.
much love to your memories. (((Gini)))
your friend, fish
I am always the last to know — didn’t realize morgan was ID’d in the videos — HokieHi — the video you link is when Metallica took the stage, and if LE’s timeline is correct, Morgan was out of the arena by then — this was after 9:00 PM — because I talked to my boy and they had not taken the stage yet — but I know this is OT, he has described this scene to me a hundred times, where the lights are black and Kurt Hammond walks out alone on stage and starts playing, then the “fireworks” which is not the correct name — pyrotechnics ?? — my kid was so close to the end of the stage he felt the heat — and as I watched the video, I bet he did about wet his pants, his joy was so great —
Why, why, WHY did Morgan leave that arena — I think LE is wrong, what caused her to leave has always been, in my mind, the initiating event, and you find out why she left, it leads you to who and what she left for —
I hope we are in the phase of this horrible event where there is absolute justice for Morgan — and all victims of crimes !!
Sky
At this point, I have every kinda question about that. But it could be that she ended up outside for air and did not know about not getting in. I am uncomfortable right now with this issue.
B
[clears throat]
Um, B – please don’t tell me that Morgan’s alleged appearance in the video (kudos and *clinks* to Mom3.0!) means I owe a big mea culpa on Granny…
Fondly,
J2K
I am not sure we can say that yet, but your mea culpas are always good here!
Fondly-er,
B
http://www.findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3318&page=16
Everyone read Blinks post on FM. I for one can see what she is describing, cooroborates what seemed to be lone girl standing in shadows that I saw. (friends are to R).
Blink, FWIW, I think you will get a better reception to your info over here. I don’t think some people can see things if it is not what they wish to see.
LOL, LOL. Nope they are coming around in droves!
Teasing, I always say if you want to know something about a person, let them show you.
It is for Morgan, so endure with me all, for her sake?
B
@ Skyler:
Are you sure you were looking at the video I linked? This is the one I posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYRb_mzcplE&feature=related
It’s definitely LOG – same layout of the stage (Metallica had a different set up) and the LOG logo is on the stage. This is the same song that was posted by Thrasher and was shot in the same section but it’s by a different person who was at the concert. The timing matches up within seconds of the one Mom located.
In the still pic, there is an older couple right to the right of where we beleive Morgan was (above the drum set). It looks like an older gentleman wearing a maroon shirt and an older lady wearing a white undershirt with a green over shirt. I am just wondering if there is any way LE can identify this couple as they may remember something.
Blink, on the FM website you say “If am right- if this group in vid 1 is Morgan’s group I believe she faints.”
This is the first time I have read that Morgan fainted. What did I miss? I agree with others who say that Morgan does not look falling down drunk or out of control in this footage.
I was at the JPJ arena for the first time last week, and I agree with others’ assessment on its intimate size. You can’t walk 10 yards without seeing a bathroom, but I saw nothing pointing the way to the smoking patio. Also, there are no signs about zero readmittance. I think Morgan must have gone outside to smoke, if not to buy drugs (not sure about that). Did she buy a beer and get drugged before going outside? How did her demeanor change so fast? Did it?
And when did the news (or rumor) that something happened to Morgan in the bathroom come out?
I agree with those who refute the LE notion that what happened before Morgan left the arena is irrelevant. I think it is possible that her demise started inside the arena. Or maybe even years before the Metallica concert. Morgan left one high school for another. No teen wants to do that. No kid for that matter wants to leave their friends for another school. Morgan left JMU for VA Tech. That’s more understandable. Did she pick a major and think VA Tech was a better school? Or was there a problem at JMU, maybe the same problem that prompted the changed of high schools? Did someone unacceptable follow her from high school (the first one) to college (also the first one)? Or were both school changes what addicts/alcoholics like to call “Geographical Cures”? (P.s. they don’t work). Or were they unrelated?
Morgan had a lock on her bedroom door. It reminds me of when I was in college, living in an apartment a few blocks from campus. One sunny Saturday I saw out the window two men in suits walking toward my building, and the thought “those are cops and they are coming to see me” went through my head. They were, and they did. They came to tell me that the night before, while I was waitressing, some guy was looking in my living room window. A neighbor asked him what he was doing, and he said “Oh I think her dog might have gotten my cat.” Well, no one in my building, including me, had a dog, and none of my neighbors had a cat, and my neighbor called the police, but the guy left before they got there. So I developed a plan. I got a cordless phone (this is pre-cellular) and put a deadbolt on the inside of my bathroom door. The bath was the only room without a window, and the door to it was one of those old solid hardwood doors. I figured if someone broke into my apartment I had enough time to grab the phone and lock myself into my bathroom. I never found out who the peeper was. Thank God he never came back. College towns attract a lot of weirdos. My sibling went to UVA back in the day, and at one point rented an apartment between Shady Grady and the campus. One night a young woman got stabbed to death outside the apartment and there was nothing anyone could do about it. She died before police arrived.
I was starting to get cynical about VSP coming out to defend Willie Morris’ legacy but shedding no more light on the case. Then I thought, “well, they haven’t come out to defend Randall Snead shooting a young man 20 miles outside his jurisdiction, so maybe they really aren’t just utilizing the media to protect their own.” Maybe Randall Snead is just a big ol’ drama queen who can’t live and breathe on this earth unless he’s in the thick of everything that happens in a tri-couty area. Or maybe not.
I am working on a follow-up to CLUE or COINCIDENCE called DUALITY or DICHOTOMY?
As in, a) “Morgan was drugged” OR “Morgan was stalked by an ex”
vs
b) “Morgan was drugged” AND “Morgan was stalked by an ex”
Sorry, my mind is all over the place.
Observer, if you start getting rocks in the box, just let me know when to take more photos of the memorial. —J
Oh, also … blink says “Blink Biscuit. That is correct. The Napier that is co-owner of AP.
B”.
What is AP? Anyone want to make an acronym list for this case?
Oh! I totally forgot! Today in The Hook classifieds I see this under the bulletin board heading:
“If you know anything about the Morgan Harrington case, send anonymous info to: Morgan, PO Box 246, Lionville, PA 19353″
What the devil is that all about?
Heh?
B
Blink, the photo link is from HokieHi on Apr 28 @ 11:41am in case link doesn’t work:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hickydoo/4022346636/sizes/l/in/photostream/
On the lefthand side of the photo, in the first row of seats directly to the left of the silver stairs (left as I’m viewing it), there are three guys standing up at their seats. They are all wearing black teeshirts, and the one closest to the stairs has his hands in his pockets (khakis, it looks like) and is staring in the direction of Morgan. he has dark hair. His friends (supposition) next to him are talking to each other.
While we’re looking at videos…This particular one I’ve come across has only been viewed 30 times….This one appears to be more clear and slightly closer from a slightly different angle. Although the date says 10/07/09, it is in fact 10/17/09. Look starting @ 1:02 in the same spot as the other videos you are looking at. In this video, there is a blond in black & definitely appears to be wearing black leggings. She appears to take a step forward and back and crosses her legs as she steps. Several times the lighting is just in the right way that you can see her legs good. In one instance during the video she appears to turn around and even look back. Perhaps someone with the right software can clean it up a bit…-if, and that’s a big IF this is her??? Thoughts anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6LzE0bVfvw
This one is good too and very clear…Again the date reads 10/07/10, however it is 10/17/10 at JPJ. (hint) When you are searching for these vids, play around with the dates and wording as you’ll come across ones that normally don’t appear in a universal search as like in the ones I found, the up-loader made typo errors…But they are from 10/17/09 at JPJ -for clarification.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYRb_mzcplE&feature=related