Morgan Harrington Murder: Coincidences or Clues ?
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North Garden, VA– Morgan Harrington, the 20 year old fair-haired, radiant beauty, was brutally murdered after disappearing from the John Paul Jones arena the evening of October 17, 2009.
Morgans remains were recovered the morning of January 26, 2010 in a hayfield on Anchorage Farm, owned by David and Nancy Bass.
Since Morgan was found by Mr. Bass that blackest of days in January, there has been rampant speculation about her last hours and how she ended up in the creek bed of total strangers.
A sequence of events and incidents in the days and hours preceding and following the January 26, 2010, discovery of Morgan Harrington’s skeletal remains on Anchorage Farm continues to attract attention from pundits and volunteers dedicated to Morgan’s cause.
Although naysayers point to a lack of a viable connection, and police have disavowed a link, others say emergency services runs to a nearby fire and also other responses which are not supported by publicly available documentation has led to calls for more complete disclosure to eliminate any connection or chance of prank calls to misdirect or busy first responders.
The editors of www.blinkoncrime.com present a series of events occurring in Albemarle County, VA that pose the question:
What the Hell is going on and what does it have to do with Morgan Harrington’s murder?
The Monsoons of Albemarle County …. PD
Ok, maybe I meant “The monsoor”. Karl Monsoor that is.
Former Officer Karl Monsoor had been tugging on the shirtail of ACPD for years before he finally left with pocketfuls of sunshine. Almost 500 G’s.
It is not my intention to be glib, it is my intention to say that as one of the youngest police departments in the country, enacted in 1983, this tank needed algeacide before this past March.
Death By Cop.. January 1, 2010
Colby Eppard, described by some as a cross between Gomer Pyle and cool hand luke, had the rawest of deals growing up in Greene County.
According to his foster-mommy-aunt, Tammy Harlow Cox, Colby was hit by a car at a very young age and suffered a brain injury that apparently served to shape his future of home upheavel and juvenile detention facilities.
Ms. Cox, to whom Colby Eppard was entrusted for a time as a foster parent, is no stranger to the judicial system. Tammy was arrested for admittedly having sex with 3 High School seniors athletes on the Varsity Football Team, where her own sons attended. The same school Colby elected to leave without his diploma.
Colby’s family recalls better times, and I don’t think anyone believes this is the last we have heard of this case.
Specifically under VA statute, Greene County Captain Randall Snead was out of his jurisdiction, both when he was called about Colby stealing the patrol car and the fact that he was in North Garden, Albemarle County, looking for it. It would seem the Greene County Roster could accommodate a deputy vs. a captain to respond, no? Keep in mind, EVERY responding officer was put on desk duty pending the investigation, through at least February 9th, 2010.
While the attorney for the Commonwealth, Denise Lunsford has cleared all officers from all participating counties involved, none of the dash cams have been released despite requests through The Freedom of Information Act..
According to Ms. Lunsford, in an incident that spanned almost 70 miles and over 2 and a half hours where traffic was rerouted and stringers were used, Colby Eppard was allegedly wielding the 20 gauge Greene County Issue out the windows, not one LEO attempted to engage or respond to Eppard in an effort to get him to pull over, or negotiate his surrender at any time.
In fact, according to statements from Snead, Albemarle Deputies Fields and Marden, they were all in place on the south junction of 20 “in the event” he went that way, yet, they did not block traffic until after the stinger caused Eppard to crash.
My biggest question regarding this incident is: Did anyone ask Colby Eppard why he would take the truck and 2 rifles on New Years day ending up in Albemarle County?
Was it related to a New Years Eve occurrance of a friend, family member or associate of his? After Sgt. Hutchinson loses Eppard near the Nelson line, the next time he is seen is parked on Green Creek Rd, back in Albemarle.
What route did he take from 29 South to end up there? Was he seeking Red Hill Road where the overdose call came in to EMS the night before?
By all accounts he was a troubled young man with challenges throughout his young 18 years.
Additionally corroborated by those that knew him, he was never violent to anyone. There were over 6 Law Enforcement Officers from 4 different jurisdictions this man encountered before he hit just below Carters Bridge; 14 by the time the stolen vehicle ended up in the ditch.
Not one of them spoke or attempted to speak to Colby Wade Eppard at anytime he was on the police radio for over 2 hours. Was there an order given not to?
How is it that not one officer responded to Eppards threats, which were even being monitored by the media at this point in an effort to have a peaceful result to this situation?
Did Eppard have a cell phone with him and have the records been checked?
Did he call anyone, like Amber Rogers, his off-again girlfriend of 3 years? His brother Courtney or any of his friends?
In the preliminary release by the Virginia State Police, it stated Eppard returned to his crashed 2006 Ford Ranger truck prior to stealing the unmarked Green Cty car. If he were attempting to have a police stand off, why would he not take the two rifles he brought with him? He left his guns behind.
It also states in the report that Eppard is seen on the video from the STOLEN police car retrieving the shotgun from the trunk and loading it, how is that possible considering all the cameras are dash mounted?
Can someone explain to me how the officers have been cleared, but the footage of both Eppards actions and their responses, the very evidence of the incident cannot be released? One of the officers involved, Caleb Marden, was fired for reasons nobody is willing to comment on.
There is only ONE way that is legal; if is part of an ONGOING investigation.
So what investigation is it an active part of?
(Editors note: If Mr. Eppard put ANYONE’s safety at risk through his actions, in the end, I say what happened to him was done to protect others, which I support. That said, as it was not so long ago a Virginia Conservation Officer was indicted for the involuntary manslaughter of a 16 year old kid whose girlfriend he was trying to grab out of his moving car, and later had the charges dismissed, I think it is worthy of conversation.)
Byrd Watching DungSmoke – January 22, 2010
James Byrd Gunn, resident or squatter at 5027 Stoney Point Rd, Barboursville, VA owned by Piedmont Manor Land Trust, was busted for possession of Marijuana with intent to deliver, and possession of a firearm as a felon.
TODAY, Mr. Big Gunn is on the Run-Run. He was indicted on both counts Monday and declared a fugitive this afternoon.
CR10000107-00 GUNN, JAMES BYRD POSSESS MARIJUANA W/INTENT 06/07/2010 Active
CR10000169-00 GUNN, JAMES BYRD FELON W/ A FIREARM 04/08/2010 Fugitive
In a SEPERATE arrest on January 23rd, 2010, Jeremy Manning– Smith 
(JMS) with the cool 144 acre pad in Keswick, also indicted on 4/5/2010 , may turn to the fivefold plan to help him out. JMS keeps a cool $55K recession-proof wad around for emergencies. Mr. Manning-Smith is a long time composter, although he never really states what he is growing.
Lisa Powers, copperworks and the fivefold planners say burn the dung. They are pals, although I doubt she is securing his bond.
Cash Runs OUT.. January 24th, 2010
Jason Todd Cash, with NO CHARGES OR WARRANTS PENDING allegedly tries to kill a cop when he is stopped in Nelson Cty in a vehicle registered to someone in Buckingham County. Remind you of anyone? He ran from the scene, leaving the vehicle and eluded police on foot.
The vehicle was impounded. He apparently is driving on a revoked license, which county has that occurred in? We will get back to J-money.
NON Garden Party…. January 25th
At approximately 10PM on the evening of January 25, Albemarle County Fire and rescue services responds to a call at the 37 acre farm of award winning gardening and horticulture experts John Sauer and his wife Cathy Clary. It is listed as a tactical incident rescue and as of March 24, 2010 is still an open incident. What was it? Who or what needed rescuing?
Mr. Sauer is the long-time gardner for Carr’s Hill, the residence of the President of UVA. Carr’s Hill was the former site of the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity until 2003 when it was moved by the city to it’s current location on Culbreth. Ms. Clary is a horticulture proffessor at UVA, and most recently taught a home landscaping course which included a field trip the afternoon of Saturday October 17, 2009.
The Sauers are also members of Piedmont Landscaping Association, which is open to anyone in the landscaping field and the Virginia Cooperative Extension.
Interestingly enough, there were several fire alarm activations on the UVA campus on this same day. Faulkner House reported a residential fire around 4:10 am.
Threes Company, Four is Combustible..Jan 26th
Sometime after 10PM, the residential fire at 3323 Sutherland Rd breaks out.
This would be the fire that is still an OPEN INCIDENT.
This fire,as you can see, was no curling-iron-left-on.
It allegedly started after the residents were asleep, although they had all apparently packed their belongings and were on a month to month lease, 2 had already moved out.
In fact, according to Peruvian vacationer and dog owner of Blanca, the pit bull that perished in the blaze, he was not aware of the fire until days after the fact because he was with friends in Peru.
Convenient, if you ask me, as he has a previous weed distribution and subsequent traffic charge in December 2009.
Meet new pup to the left. In fairness to fair-weather k9’s of America, he was only asking for dog-sitting, and not on the lease. Choose your kenneling wisely people.
The residential fire at the 3000 block of Sutherland Rd has some issues. For starters, you have the first press release regarding the possible accidental fire since as far back as 2003 before a cause determination has been made.
Additionally the release itself appears to have missed the fact that approximately 2 hours after the last apparatus departs, there is an additional call back to the property requiring 12 responders within minutes of the discovery of Morgan Harrington’s remains. They may have literally passed each other on Route 29; they definitely would have heard the dispatcher.
The former owner of the Sutherland property is buried on Anchorage Farm. A relative of the current owners has hunted the Anchorage Farm property.
The band in the image on the left is pictured practicing in the Sutherland home.
A firefighter, whose identity blinkoncrime is choosing to withhold, who fought the fire, without sleeping took an impromptu trip to New Jersey with his ..”aunt, uncle, cousin, his cousins uncle and a friend..” at 10:23PM January 27th, driving straight through without stopping and returned to North Garden by 1:45PM January 28th. Through his own facebook postings, he spends the bulk of his time when he is not volunteering for the North Garden Fire Department at his cousins; a Toco Hill address also listed as the home for a recently released registered sex offender.
Retired Greene Sheriff Takes His Own Life.. January 28
There is no evidence to suggest that William “Willie” Linwood Morris’s suicide has anything in common with the Morgan Harrington’s case directly, with the exception that there are obviously folks that knew him as well as other individuals being discussed. I have spoken with a family member, and an individual who has known him for twenty years and by those accounts Willie was in deep discomfort from the tinnicus he suffered from.
He took care of every detail prior to ending his life behind the barn on his farm in Stanardsville, VA, including withdrawing the cash for his own funeral.
Willie Morris was found by Captain Randall Snead, who was allegedly supposed to be on desk duty until the Eppard case investigation was completed. According to Commonwealth Attorney Denise Lunsford, that was not completed until February 9, 2010, almost 2 weeks later.
Cash is Busted on a Tip.. March 19
Not long out of Nelson County jail for a non-violent offense, Jason Todd Cash is being held in Albemarle County jail since his arrest around 1am the morning of Friday March 19.
One has to wonder if the tip about where Jmoney was hanging out on Secretary Sand Rd from his kin in Amherst.
Clint Cash, a registered sex offender was arrested in December on a felony parole violation and is facing some heavy time . His wife Donna, had just pled guilty to a misdemeanor the day before the tip came in regarding JT Cash’s whereabouts and received a suspended sentence.
Jason Cash was apprehended with help from Bink, the new Albemarle County k9 when the house he was staying in on Secretary Sands was raided and he attempted to stay hidden inside.
What are Coincidences… What are clues?
The aforementioned volunteer for NGVFD lives in same stretch of Secretary Sands Rd.
Yet another relative of Jason Cash, a registered Sex Offender, shares an employer with the cousin of “volunteer”, and volunteer; specializing in outdoor landscape lighting.
Colby Eppard was stopped in the area of Green Creek Rd that is a large parcel of land owned by Cash family member.
As far as making allegations in this report, there are none. The investigation of the events contained herein are entirely based on public information and witness accounts.
I have come to the conclusion that while we cannot say specifically which one of the issues discussed directly relate to the murder of Morgan Harrington, a primary or secondary scene integral to the investigation of same, and the hunt for her killer(s), but I do believe the incidents need to explored fully in a public forum.
Jason Mateos and Elizabeth Morton contributing editors to this report.
Blinkoncrime.com posters justice for morgan and juliemooly contributed research credits.
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April 28, 2010 at 8:03 pm
{Blink, Correction}
This one is good too and very clear…Again the date reads 10/07/09, however it is 10/17/09 at JPJ. (hint) When you are searching for these vids, play around with the dates and wording as you’ll come across ones that normally don’t appear in a universal search as like in the ones I found, the up-loader made typo errors…But they are from 10/17/09 at JPJ -for clarification.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYRb_mzcplE&feature=related
Ok, I am really confused now. Have these photos been verified as being MORGAN? I thought Dan Harrington said they are not Morgan. Have i missed LE stating that these are Morgan?
I know I saw these photos before with people guessing it may have been her….way, way back…maybe in November…Why now?
Again, has LE and has Dr. Harrington verified these as photos of Morgan?
Hi Blink-
Sorry I couldn’t answer sooner- I gave myself a headache watching the videos.
I wasn’t clear- I meant the still on FM.com that shows 3 girls outlined- The second video only shows two girls. Hugging /talking kissing.. Sorry for confusing you.
Eloise, thanks for the heads up- Blink, I do not understand some of the contributors remarks there.
Someone said they have it on good faith that this isn’t Morgan and her friends.
What good faith? Please come forward and let us all know why this can’t be Morgan and her friends.
I would also like to point out that the choice of wording “faint” was mine not yours. Perhaps I should have said looks to lose balance or looks to want to get sick- unfortunately at that exact point the screen goes to BLACK-
First, I was not there that night. Unfortunately, I do not know Morgan or her mannerisms. But I do know Morgan is reported to have gotten sick and reported to have fallen and she was reported to have gone to the bathroom (albeit alone). Of course I can not with 100% say that those in vid 1 are Morgan, SS and AM but- based on a all of these points,these very events seem to play out in vid1.
I nor anyone can see the end result of Morgan’s foot coming out from under her or the result of her swaying. But I tell you, it doesn’t look like it would be fun, and its probably a good thing she turned around at that point or she would have toppled over the railing.
The next instant. when there is a some light, that group, Morgan’s group, is not there behind the second railing. But there is quick movement of at least 3 people walking toward the stage diagonally from the stairs, as if to get somewhere very quickly, and it isnt to the snack bar or beer line IMO
One needs EXTREME patience, the willingness and no preconceived notions before watching vid1. If so, IMO one can clearly see the actions I pointed out in that video. Is it easy? No. Is it time consuming? Yes.
If those girls in that video are Morgan and her friends, then we have IMO confirmed some things- 1 Morgan seems fine for awhile, although she for the most part hangs on to the railing. 2 She seems to begin to not feel well, swaying looking off in the distance, looking at the ceiling- her foot seems to move in a way that says to me- lose of balance- ALL in seconds- then lights go out
Next at least 3 people movevery quickly away from area- off of the floor and good front row seats -in a diagonal pattern to ??
If that girl in video 1 is SS she is taking pics- possibly from Morgan’s camera -meaning Morgan had her camera -it wasn’t left in the car right? Maybe she lost the camera right there. SS talks to Morgan on her left and another friend AM on the right. 3 friends not 2
Vid 2 There are only two girls in that vid. I do not know if one of them is Morgan but if it is her- She is happy talking hugging and kissing her friend. If it is SS and AM then they are happy talking kissing hugging.
If it is not them in vid1 and vid 2 was not them either- then we have another group that never returned to their log seats.
I would also like to point out that I am one of the people that have always held on to the believe that Morgan never made it inside JPJ-no video -no photos- If I believed this vid did not show Morgan, why would I go through all the BS to say it could be them?
Why would I want to get Dr. Harrington’s hopes up? I wouldn’t.
Mom 3.0
I want to be clear as a bell.
I believe, with every fiber of my being, that is Morgan and her friends.
I never have, and never will, be afraid of being wrong.
I stand with you. I stand with Morgan.
B
Can rocks still be sent and is this address correct?
Morgan Rocks
PO Box 4492
Charlottesville, VA 22905
Thanks
Mebbe it’s true that nobody was in their seats yet (tho that seems like a little bit of a stretch—like where we’re trying SO HARD to make this be Morgan. I know I’d be mighty ticked off if I showed up at a concert and a bunch of people were standing in front of MY seats in MY row just because “no one was in their seats yet.” And no, of course I am not trying to say this was a motive for murder; just that I think an usher would have chased them out of those seats if they weren’t theirs.) Now, if the gals were on the floor, then I’d say, ok—no one was in their seats, the rules were relaxed for the pre-show. But they’re not anywhere near the floor. Nor dancing in the aisle like that other dude.
I want it to be Morgan. I hope it’s Morgan. But I don’t think it’s Morgan.
I’m sure LE has amazing enhancement technology they’re dying to enlist, but honestly—that seems like the hard way to go. They must know who was in those seats. 99.9% chance that someone’s credit card paid for them. They just need to ring ‘em up show them the video and ask ‘em “Is this you?”
On a lighter note, O/T but quite appropriate for this forum, it’s Nancy Drew’s 80th bday!
SNIP
If Nancy Drew, amateur sleuth, were a real person, she would be 98 today.
On April 28, 1930, the 18-year-old girl detective who lives with her attorney father and housekeeper in River Heights, USA, made her debut — and she has been thrilling readers ever since.
MORE HERE
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/nancy-drew-celebrates-80th-anniversary/story?id=10498175
Happy birthday, Nancy!
I heart u Suz
B
Houston Mom: Where is her purse in these videos? Can anyone tell?
Blink,
I’m not trying to be a party pooper. But what do you make of FM folks stating Morgans friends say they never left section 312?
Do you know this to be confirmed? Or is the photo still under review?
What I know, is that I have emails from friends that believe it is her.
I stand with Morgan, and the work of mom 3.0.
B
Ok, wait—I see what you mean about not being in their seats. They’re standing in an aisle by one of those tunnels, like near section 304 or 305, or 314 or 315—kind of near their own seats.. Huh. Could be her, collapsing and all that. How mysterious.
The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia, a 2009 documentary about the White Family of WV, shed some light this family’s day to day outlaw lifestyle. Parts of the movie reminded me of the happenings in VA. A young man and Uncle got into an argument regarding a stolen truck and gun. The Uncle was shot by the nephew, which resulted in nephew having a shootout with cops. The nephew lived but was sent to prison.
When I first started commenting on a blog it was Steve Huff’s crime blog, and I didn’t want to use my real name, so as a UGE fan of Nancy Drew, and her friend George being my favorite character, I penned the screen name “Georgie”.
Happy Birthday Nancy and gang!
Huffinator is my mentor, well, one of them, but I am guessing you knew that.
He is truly the innovator of True Crime, imo.
B
Fish, thanks for your April 28, 2010 at 4:28 pm post- you captured my feelings quite well on why I keep looking though these videos. Thank you for so eloquently explaining what I could never communicate.
Blink, I appreciate your support. I never wanted to debate whether or not this video/s shows Morgan and her friends. Until yesterday I didn’t even know it was still being talked about.
I only posted it in the hopes that it could help. I do not have a stake in whether it is proven to be Morgan and her friends or not. I do not mind being wrong either. I know my intentions are good.
I know I hope it is proven to be Morgan and her friends, for all the reasons Fish stated.
Thanks for always being strong for the victims and their family’s Blink- I could never do what you do.
2.Georgie says:
April 28, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Blink, the photo link is from HokieHi on Apr 28 @ 11:41am in case link doesn’t work:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hickydoo/4022346636/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Georgie and HokieHi:
IS this a still photo when LOG is starting their set or finishing their set?
They look to be throwing somethng out into audience so I assume but could be wrong, they have finished. I do not see the drummer, btw.
Where would that place Morgan in Mom3.0 timeline?
Blink:
Are we or the VSP making forward progression? I too stand with Mom3.0. We have reviewed all these videos for months. I do not want anyone to suffer either. I want resolution and justice.
Much love to all those who continue
the fight for Morgan Harrington.
I think so, Is it in the right direction? Dunno.
I do not believe we know everything there is to know about what went down in the arena for Morgan to end up outside.
B
Blink, Could it be if she fainted and/or just fell and went to BR that BG’s with bad intentions followed her? It seems more likely that her fate started inside and continued outside rather than random BG’s happened to run into her in the parking lot. Come on VSP and J4M.
Sheesh. Yes, of course it could.
B
Dunno.
B
Juliemooly I cracked up at your post…I’m glad to see at least someone is still as confused as I am. I still wonder, too, if Morgan’s whole evening started years before. I hope B that if you’re getting emails from some of her friends that they’re shedding more light on what may have happened the day and months leading up to the Metallica concert.
At this point, I do not think the answers are in her recent past, except to say it could shed some light on some connections we are not aware of.
What I am getting, unfortunately, is conflicting accounts of activities within the arena, disconcerting.
B
It would seem to me that if there are conflicting accounts of activities within the arena, then perhaps someone(s) of those giving the accounts should be very suspect…..round ‘em ALL up and put them in one room and then ask questions!
I am with you. I do not think it necessarily makes anyone suspect.
I think in this situation people make decisions on what may or may not be relevant, and that could be ommitting information that is needed.
B
16.Mom3.0 says:
April 29, 2010 at 2:23 am
No problem Mom3.0, sometimes I think that I have a good deal to offer as far as my life experiences and sometimes I feel that I am as dumb as a brick and know nothing. But in the words of Blink…
“WE KEEP TRYING”
sorry if my inside outside comment sounded stupid. I am sincere in caring for justice for morgan.
It did not at all, I agreed with you. If that was not clear I apologize.
B
At this point, I do not think the answers are in her recent past, except to say it could shed some light on some connections we are not aware of.
What I am getting, unfortunately, is conflicting accounts of activities within the arena, disconcerting.
B
I guess that is part of my issue here also. Why are we trusting the accounts of three people whose where abouts (as far as we know) are not accounted for? And the movements that we do know seem odd or suspicious? The friends are also not on video? They have stated they waited in the parking lot for 3 hours? Did anybody see them in the parking lot? Cell records? Well, what else can a group of three do in three hours?
Either way, I think Blink it is time to get off of the video and back to trying to find the killers.
Yep, I agree. We have been busting hump behind the scenes here on issues related to this case.
Btw, anyone notice the Metallica shots are gone from the JPJ website?
B
Blink I think it seems late now for LE to be making an appeal to these people inside the concert. They’re long gone. VSP made an appeal early on, and after Morgan’s body was found, to the local public for help…but many of these concert goers were from out of town, and many young people don’t even watch the news on TV or pick up their local newspapers. October 17 was a long time ago…memories fade. I worry that LE waited too long and kept too much information from the public. All these young people have already gone on with their lives. I’m trying to stay positive but I’m losing hope.
“I think in this situation people make decisions on what may or may not be relevant, and that could be ommitting information that is needed.
B”
I would add people have widely varying perceptions of time and place, as well. I am pretty realistic about the amount of time it takes to travel a distance, do a task, etc., but my sister, who is equally smart as and far more successful than myself, consistently thinks she has twice the amount of time she needs to do a set list of known tasks. Some people just don’t remember correctly when things happen, who they saw, what was said, etc. I have a friend with an IQ equal to mine (we both peeked in school), but when I retell a story it’s verbatim, and his retelling is through the wacky creative lens he sees the world through. My retelling is accurate, and his is the one everyone wants to hear, making him the life of the party, and me the one people see as dependable, stable, etc.
In that still photo above, directly in front of the older man in white with his arms crossed, could that be Morgan with her hand over her forehead? Could that be Dan and Amy walking up the stairs? I don’t see Sarah. Maybe one of the things they “wouldn’t have done if we had known” was ditch Morgan after she fell. I wish I had the high-tech computer technology everyone keeps saying the FBI has. Hell, I wish I had a Mac and not a tiny laptop.
ps in re: a few pages back—Mt. Chipotle melted day before yesterday at 12:55 pm to little fanfare, in case I forgot to mention it.
lee: good point! I think that conflicting accounts could be due to people inserting themselves into the “dead girl’s life”. We had experienced that. Never knew my sister had so many “best friends” and “people in the know”. I wrote about it, oh gosh, posts and posts ago. Couldn’t begin to find it. But, I think that those that saw her inside of arena, may have thought they saw her. Intially, it might make them a suspect, in our minds or even LE but I think that this was hopefully hammered out.
So, I will give them the benefit of the doubt, because maybe they had been confused. There were girls that resembled Morgan. It was crowded.
But I would like to know if Morgan was harrassed in any way. Do her friends know this and know of the person and are fearful??
(The Halloween photos make me think otherwise)
But any rate, are they fearful of someone, forgetful because time as passed, or just plain do not remember because of their own inhibrated state? That’s ok, just say so. As much as I think that their behavior stunk to high heaven, I would hope that they cleared their conscious and told everything.
“It is not what your or Morgan’s decisions were that I give a crap about. You all were having fun. For God sake, you were at Metallica! I wish I could have been there. I just hope that the truth was told and that those that matter, and that ain’t me, know what went down inside the arena. Tell Dr. Harrington, tell LE. Hey, kids get drunk, high, make mistakes but kids don’t get murdered”.
But lee, I’m with you too. Round ‘em up and go over it all again. Sometimes we all need to rehash things over and over. People are trained to do this. It helps immensely and all it takes it one little thing to have gone unnoticed and unsaid.
I’ll shut up now.
Georgie and HokieHi:
IS this a still photo when LOG is starting their set or finishing their set?
They look to be throwing somethng out into audience so I assume but could be wrong, they have finished. I do not see the drummer, btw.
Where would that place Morgan in Mom3.0 timeline?
Hey Fish -
Unfortunately, I have no idea about timing. I found this on Flickr posted by a person named LegalAlien. There are about 150 photos from the concert but only maybe 10 or so from LOG. This photo appeared to be posted in the middle to back end of the LOG photos (but it was not the last one). So I’m purely speculating but I’d guess around the middle of the set? It’s really hard to tell though. The odds that Morgan would be in the photo are probably small. BUT, if we can confirm she was in that area, then the photo is clear enough for LE to track down some people who were known to be in the area of Morgan and ask for some help. I don’t know about LE’s original reach out to those at the concert but I think a direct contact to 50 – 100 individuals who were within 100 ft of her could jog some memories. Probably a long shot but worth looking into imo.
OH NO!! localcvillegirl! Don’t lose hope. It is there! It will be very hard. It always is. But if ever a family needs hope, it is now and in the months to come. Take some of mine. I always keep a supply in the ole tank!
***There is a point at the end of the concert where James Hetfield of Metallica, is pointing to the crowd and filling his heart with the cheers and love from his fans. It is touching because he means it. It is what sustains him in that crazy life he leads.
We must continue to fill the hearts of the Harrington Family, and BOC and for Law Enforcement who are searching for the truth!
Just a thought regarding the friends saying that they waited in the parking lot for three hours after the concert… if they did, the police or parking lot attendants (someone) would have asked them why they were loitering. I’ve not heard of any one confirming that they were seen in the parking lot for three hours waiting but I could’ve missed that.
10.Momof3 says:
January 25, 2010 at 3:03 am
P.s Blink just wanted to say whenever I sing my own wee-man to sleep with twinkle twinkle little star,I will think of you and your little one. From one mother to another, thank you for always doing your best to raise loving, caring, well rounded children, while having enough compassion to care for so many outside of your own beloved family.
That would make my day. As my wee-man is only my wee-man to me anymore, lol.
B
Localgirl: See if this doesn’t resupply your sense of hope. It shows that people outside of one’s immediate family care. Sometimes friends are the family that we choose. And, I choose you.
Yes, mistakes no doubt were made. We are all only human but those men and women of Law Enforcement want justice. They are not all bad eggs. They care, cry, and need support just like you and me.
Sorry Blink, if I overstated.
Mom 3.0
I want to be clear as a bell.
I believe, with every fiber of my being, that is Morgan and her friends.
I never have, and never will, be afraid of being wrong.
I stand with you. I stand with Morgan.
B
One of the girls confirmed it wasn’t them. So close, I really thought it was too.
I posted on this on both sites.
B
Hello All,
Well I think the obvious thing we must remember is.. ..Morgan did separate from the group at least one time. So she did not remain in the seats the whole time. They were like glue, all three throughout until this one incident? When EXACTLY was the separation? When the lights were on? When LOG almost finished? Could she not find them after? I surely hope LE got some good details early on, as memories do fade. Especially, if you have been drinking. I know this first hand. LOL! And is it true Dan did not hang with them? I recall some rumor to that effect.
In CW’S post, at 23 sec., http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYRb_mzcplE&feature=related female, on the rail can be clearly standing alone. Same girl you all are speaking of. She looks in that .23 sec light to have a bag on right shoulder, definitely a skirt.
AND, I might add her top half looks bigger than just a T-shirt. Could there be a jacket? Not to muddy the waters, but take a look at this flickr photo. Do you all see the blond w/ ? pony-tail , jean jacket and maybe some strap across the chest? This may truly be unrelated, just wanted to share a photo I kept returning to. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hickydoo/4022345254/in/dateposted/ Check out arm rail slightly left of drumset.
Then this video, from MOM.3 et al, in slowmo, starting at 1.32 captures a great view of this girl,
( Morgan) looks about the same as flickr photo to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYRb_mzcplE&feature=related
And to you MOM 3.0, clearly your intensions are only the best. Pls don’t let anyone make you feel otherwise. Everybody here only wants to know what happened and maybe why. The person you have found in these videos, has a miss-step, and appears to descend downward. I don’t think it is beyond the realm of possibilities that she was in the BR, cleaning up, upset, felt ill and went outside. It may never have occurred to her at that time about the rules of entry. If feeling ill, I doubt she wanted to smoke.
In real time, which video is first? Is Log 1 really before Log 2? Or is it downloaded randomly? I ask b/c the kissing video would need to be before the falling video, correct?
Blink. I got stuck on Fish’s flicker pic above because it is the right place and the right time (if at end of LOG) if anyone thinks it might be Morgan falling down, looking at those people surrounding the spot could provide some clues…?, IDK, I would have to go back and find that other picture, if it’s still there.
Don’t worry fish I’m hanging in there, I just wish a giant would come along and shake some nuts out of the tree. I crumble every time I read or hear what Dan and Gil have to say…as a mom about the same age, with children not much younger that Morgan, I can only imagine the pain. And as a local, I still feel horrible and guilty that Morgan’s life was stolen right out from under us. This is not a creepy or dangerous town, as has been portrayed…it’s still a great place to live and raise a family. I love it here, and feel very safe, but worry about what this case means to our community. I have to keep reminding myself that if Morgan had disappeared at a Metallica concert in a different town, that town would be held under the same microscope and judged just as harshly.
I sure hope justice comes soon.
Btw, anyone notice the Metallica shots are gone from the JPJ website?
B
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What might that mean to you?
Legal advice
B
Heh?
Thanks but no my friend-
B
Doubt that this is at all related, but:
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/nelson_county/article/apparent_murder-suicide_under_investigation_in_nelson_county/55522/
This is in an area called Roseland in Nelson County. From what I understand, it was a husband that killed his wife and then himself.
It is developing, they have not released the names but we know who they are.
B
I just read at FM that the friends said that they never left section 312. Thank you to the friends for answering this question.
That means that it couldn’t be Morgan and her friends in the video/s.
I’ m sorry it turned out not to be them. It could have answered some of the questions.
I have to agree with Link5150- “I think Blink it is time to get off of the video and back to trying to find the killers.”
Carry on guys-
Not so fast Mom 3.0. I have an eyewitness account that contradicts that statement. I am not permitted to disclose the source, so I will not be offended if anyone discounts me, but for those that follow my work, you already know I am never going to present something as fact, that is not verified.
Perhaps they mean they sat in their seats the entire time once the Metallica show started and Morgan was already outside, but it is factually INCORRECT to say they all were in their seats the entire time.
For starters, 2 of the 3 friends were LOOKING FOR MORGAN inside the arena right after she went to the bathroom but BEFORE SS called her at 8:48PM. They were walking around the arena, trying to locate her so how can they say WHERE AND WHEN any one of them was captured on tape?
Not only were they NOT in their seats the whole time, as was stated, but there was some reason for alarm almost immediately following Morgan heading to the bathroom that necessitated them looking for her and then finally calling her. What was that?
Who is to say that Morgan was not watching from that area with the intention of heading back to the seats, to look up and not see them? Tons of scenarios in play with only one ending, sadly.
What I am saying is that because NONE of the friends were in full view of Morgan and vice versa that we know of, they could have been anywhere… I believe that is video of Morgan as I did the first time I saw it
If anyone would like to research it further-
Section 312
Row C
Seats 11-14
BLINK I AM CURIOUS IF YOU THINK THERE IS ANYTHING TO THIS. YOU DON’T HAVE TO POST IF YOU FEEL THERE IS NO RELEVANCE. This can be read 2 ways, depending on how you interpret it. Do you think this is what happened or its a reporters assumption?
Amy Melvin traveled to Charlottesville to see the Metallica concert
with Harrington, along with two others. Melvin said the group was
separated from Harrington before the concert and did not see her during
the concert.
She said Harrington did not take the… automobile they had brought to
Charlottesville.
I posted on it
B
Melvin and the two other group members reported Harrington missing.
http://findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3317
WHATS YOUR TAKE ON THIS?
Blink, I’m so upset as I write these words, I don’t know what to do — you have an “in” w/ Dr. H — Dr. H posts here — I am requesting a clear answer to this question. The answer is either yes or no. Like all others here, I have invested a huge amt. of my heart and soul and time in the search for Morgan. I have neglected my own life and time spent w/ my child and other things. It was my choice, and if I had to do it again, I would — but — only if the answer to this question is no. Seriously, I want some truth and I want it now —
there is a hearsay post over on findmorgan — I don’t have the link, and if the answer is no, then the link is not important — in that post it says Morgan did NOT travel in the same car as the other people and that they did NOT see her before the concert (don’t know if that means in the parking lot or before Metallica took the stage or at any time after Morgan separated from Amy I am assuming at JMU — if that’s where they really went) — and that it was Amy and two other people who reported Morgan missing —
not all this cock and bull about her purse being found, UVA police notifying the H’s, the H’s calling SS and SS and unnamed others then returned to Cvlle to look for Morgan.
If that thread or this information is true — that Morgan was never w/ them in Cvlle at all — and the phone call and info related in the phone call and everything else is just a lie and deliberate false info given to the public by LE beginning w/ the presser on Oct 19th — then I swear to God, I’m done.
The description of the clothes she was wearing is a lie — the t-shirt had band photos on the front and not just block letters — the description of the boots was a lie — hell of a difference between Doc Martins and heels —
I am requesting a direct answer and it’s a simple answer that does not compromise any investigation —
Has the info we’ve been given from the beginning all been a lie, and is it true that Morgan traveled in a different car and that the girls and Dan never had contact w/ her after that —
Seriously, Blink, it’s a simple answer and the H’s owe us that — and they owe the 1000 people who gave up their time w/ their own families looking for Morgan a huge freaking apology for the direct lie, which was totally unnecessary —
thank you for clearing this up
Sky
Pay no attention Sky, I posted on this-
B
I do not have a position on whether MH is actually the tiny, blurry, briefly-spotlighted blonde profile (among several) flashing by in those LOG videos – I tried to to see the person being described, but nothing clear materialized. That said, we have a *Mom3.0* named as such for a reason.
I can, however, weigh in on the time of night depicted in HokieHi’s post of a clear photo of LOG/the audience from the stage looking out.
While I do not see anyone resembling Morgan or her friends, I believe this shot was taken when LOG had just finished their set, putting the time at *about* 8:40 p.m., when MH was already outside and was soon to give up hope of getting back in at all (thus the 8:48 p.m. phone call to SS).
To wit:
The drummer is gone, and his drum-kit looks like it’s about to be broken down; that guy gesturing at the back of the stage looks like he’s part of the stage crew directing the rapid dismantling of LOG’s stage set-up in conjunction with the set-up for Metallica.
I think that the dude with the towel over his shoulder and his head down (walking across the stage, probably toward the steps leading backstage) may be the bass player(?); and the lead singer is engaging the front rows of audience members post-set (he looks sweaty).
Underscoring these observations are the fans clearly departing the stage area or looking at their cell phones.
B – re: Granny’s account/MH’s alleged appearance in the LOG video
“I am not sure we can say that yet, but your mea culpas are always good here! Fondly-er, ~B”
Duly noted, my friend. And, I should have qualified “appearance” with “pony-tailed,” which – while still a long-shot that Granny saw MH, in my book – G made a point to note that the young woman she observed had her hair pulled back.
Blink,
This leads to the obvious next questions. Why are the friends lying about being in the seats the whole time? Did they mean they were in the seats up until the time Morgan left? Then left those seats to go search? And why the need for the quick search? Also, How can we investigate those seats?
I cant say they were lying, because I think the statement came 3x removed, and we do not to what question it was an answer to-
B
“Not only were they NOT in their seats the whole time, as was stated, but there was some reason for alarm almost immediately following Morgan heading to the bathroom that necessitated them looking for her and then finally calling her. What was that?”
We have two things going on here…
1) The friends knew Morgan was sick, maybe due to too much whatever or they slipped her something.
Hence, “If they knew they wouldn’t have done it”. They became worried and started the search. Morgan finds herself outside, phone call from an apologitic Sarah but oh well, concert started. Morgan takes the high road and says “I’ll find a way home or wait somewhere”. NOW, they return to their seats, enjoy concert. Concert over and then no Morgan. They wait and then leave. Behavior since she goes missing, is well, questionable. Maybe they never believed she came into harm’s way. The Halloween photos and Bday party citation. Seems they just thought she had left. Where was the concern? Did they believe she ran away? WTF?
2) During this time, Morgan falls prey to the very evil we all protect our children from.
Blink: Is there any way you can clarify what Sarah meant? Done what? Hitch hiking? Ditched her inside arena?
You ask…What was that?
and
I ask…What was it?
With this all being said, What the hell was so important to do a run to New Jersey after fighting a fire?
Morgan may have talked to bib and they told her about a place she could wait it out…
Sutherland Road Party House.
I agree, Blink, the answer that the friends gave as to whether or not they were “in their seats,” would depend upon exactly how the question was asked.
After reading your above stmt, can we assume that the friends are not as complicit or negligent as we may have first though? If they were searching the arena for Miss M., and they called her cell within 20 mins, it sounds as if friends were suspicious/worried/concerned, AND they acted very appropriately for 20 y.o. young ladies at a rock concert. Had the four friends seen someone in the arena that made them anxious–old boyfriend perhaps, or a NEW admirer. I cannot see Morgan stepping out of the arena on her own volition for no good reason.
Mom3:0 You still ROCK : )
I am of the opinion we don’t know what the eff went down in that arena- I cant be any plainer.
B
I am fairly confident that there are those who know why she ended up outside the arena, because she spoke to several people outside, including the telephone conversation with Sara. LE discounting what happened inside the arena may have even hinged on this detail. I believe she was, unfortunately, placed in a position to be “thrown to the wolves”, the perfect scenario that led to this tragic event.
I think we also need to remember that the “friends” were likely under the influence, the recall of positional events in such a state may be distorted/incomplete.
Since it looks to me like she was standing by one of those gates/passages/tunnels to the concourse near 314 or 315 (instead of at her seat in 312), I guess she could have been heading to or from the smoking area at 315?
Thanks for the seat numbers, Blink! It’s just so nice to have a fact to hang onto as these sands continue to shift under our feet.
I am somewhat reluctant to post this and I don’t know what to say about this still other that the fact that there is a young lady in this pic that looks like it could be Miss Morgan. Yes, I know Metallica is on stage, however, from all the things we don’t really know, why couldn’t it be her? If her “friends” were looking for her, maybe this is where she was. How do we know for sure, must we base everything on what her “friends” have relayed? And frankly, I don’t think they were very reliable. The look-alike is standing to the right of the guy with the red wrist band, the guy who has his arm dangling over the railing. Pre – apologies if this has been posted before.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hickydoo/4022354132/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Morgan did not have an orange bracelet, not her.
B
Were there any suites or premium boxes available for this concert?
This probably doesn’t matter but for those who want to get a better orientation of the arena layout, here is some help. There is a poster on Youtube (tbyrd777) that was on the same side of the arena as the area where we believe Morgan was. The poster was on the right hand side of the stage and you can see in one of his videos that the drummer is in the lower right hand corner. They also posted another video prior to Metallica taking the stage that shows the wall.
http://www.youtube.com/user/tbyrd7777#p/u/24/w9zjpZUcjWo
At the 13 second mark, you can get a clear look at the wall and see the lower bleachers are pushed in. Just above them is the handicapped accessible seating and the windows that allow for a view out. In the photo below, you can get a look from inside of the “flat end” of the arena.
http://www.kevuva.com/jpj/jpj26.asp
So if we take Morgan’s position behind the drummer, that puts her in Section 115 down on the floor.
http://www.metallicatickets.us/SeatingChart.aspx?VenueID=3468&EventID=1040351&Chart=Basketball
According to JPJ’s website, the first aid stations are located in sections 109 and 309 which would have been the side of the arena she was sitting in and where we think she was in the video. The site says there is also a Guest Services Booth “should a concern arise during an event” located in section 310 – again on her side.
The outdoor smoking sections are at sections 301 and 315. Section 315 would be directly above her location on the floor. Didn’t I read somewhere that there were “reports” she was seen crying and bleeding in the smoking section?
I’ve never been in the arena so I don’t know about the hallways. Who knows where the bathrooms are between sections 309 and sections 315 and can share with the group? Also, where is the beer vendor in relation to the seating chart? That’s where WT says he saw her. Any chance that is on the same side of the arena? Are there doors leading outside near the smoking section and do we know whether she was locked out on the front side or the back side of the arena?
Again, I’m not sure if this is any help but I hope it gives you a spatial idea of where she was in regards to the stage, videos, etc.
Roxanne, as far as we have ever been able to determine, her purse strap was NOT broken/cut/whatever. That seems to be a rumor.