Morgan Harrington Murder: Coincidences or Clues ?
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North Garden, VA– Morgan Harrington, the 20 year old fair-haired, radiant beauty, was brutally murdered after disappearing from the John Paul Jones arena the evening of October 17, 2009.
Morgans remains were recovered the morning of January 26, 2010 in a hayfield on Anchorage Farm, owned by David and Nancy Bass.
Since Morgan was found by Mr. Bass that blackest of days in January, there has been rampant speculation about her last hours and how she ended up in the creek bed of total strangers.
A sequence of events and incidents in the days and hours preceding and following the January 26, 2010, discovery of Morgan Harrington’s skeletal remains on Anchorage Farm continues to attract attention from pundits and volunteers dedicated to Morgan’s cause.
Although naysayers point to a lack of a viable connection, and police have disavowed a link, others say emergency services runs to a nearby fire and also other responses which are not supported by publicly available documentation has led to calls for more complete disclosure to eliminate any connection or chance of prank calls to misdirect or busy first responders.
The editors of www.blinkoncrime.com present a series of events occurring in Albemarle County, VA that pose the question:
What the Hell is going on and what does it have to do with Morgan Harrington’s murder?
The Monsoons of Albemarle County …. PD
Ok, maybe I meant “The monsoor”. Karl Monsoor that is.
Former Officer Karl Monsoor had been tugging on the shirtail of ACPD for years before he finally left with pocketfuls of sunshine. Almost 500 G’s.
It is not my intention to be glib, it is my intention to say that as one of the youngest police departments in the country, enacted in 1983, this tank needed algeacide before this past March.
Death By Cop.. January 1, 2010
Colby Eppard, described by some as a cross between Gomer Pyle and cool hand luke, had the rawest of deals growing up in Greene County.
According to his foster-mommy-aunt, Tammy Harlow Cox, Colby was hit by a car at a very young age and suffered a brain injury that apparently served to shape his future of home upheavel and juvenile detention facilities.
Ms. Cox, to whom Colby Eppard was entrusted for a time as a foster parent, is no stranger to the judicial system. Tammy was arrested for admittedly having sex with 3 High School seniors athletes on the Varsity Football Team, where her own sons attended. The same school Colby elected to leave without his diploma.
Colby’s family recalls better times, and I don’t think anyone believes this is the last we have heard of this case.
Specifically under VA statute, Greene County Captain Randall Snead was out of his jurisdiction, both when he was called about Colby stealing the patrol car and the fact that he was in North Garden, Albemarle County, looking for it. It would seem the Greene County Roster could accommodate a deputy vs. a captain to respond, no? Keep in mind, EVERY responding officer was put on desk duty pending the investigation, through at least February 9th, 2010.
While the attorney for the Commonwealth, Denise Lunsford has cleared all officers from all participating counties involved, none of the dash cams have been released despite requests through The Freedom of Information Act..
According to Ms. Lunsford, in an incident that spanned almost 70 miles and over 2 and a half hours where traffic was rerouted and stringers were used, Colby Eppard was allegedly wielding the 20 gauge Greene County Issue out the windows, not one LEO attempted to engage or respond to Eppard in an effort to get him to pull over, or negotiate his surrender at any time.
In fact, according to statements from Snead, Albemarle Deputies Fields and Marden, they were all in place on the south junction of 20 “in the event” he went that way, yet, they did not block traffic until after the stinger caused Eppard to crash.
My biggest question regarding this incident is: Did anyone ask Colby Eppard why he would take the truck and 2 rifles on New Years day ending up in Albemarle County?
Was it related to a New Years Eve occurrance of a friend, family member or associate of his? After Sgt. Hutchinson loses Eppard near the Nelson line, the next time he is seen is parked on Green Creek Rd, back in Albemarle.
What route did he take from 29 South to end up there? Was he seeking Red Hill Road where the overdose call came in to EMS the night before?
By all accounts he was a troubled young man with challenges throughout his young 18 years.
Additionally corroborated by those that knew him, he was never violent to anyone. There were over 6 Law Enforcement Officers from 4 different jurisdictions this man encountered before he hit just below Carters Bridge; 14 by the time the stolen vehicle ended up in the ditch.
Not one of them spoke or attempted to speak to Colby Wade Eppard at anytime he was on the police radio for over 2 hours. Was there an order given not to?
How is it that not one officer responded to Eppards threats, which were even being monitored by the media at this point in an effort to have a peaceful result to this situation?
Did Eppard have a cell phone with him and have the records been checked?
Did he call anyone, like Amber Rogers, his off-again girlfriend of 3 years? His brother Courtney or any of his friends?
In the preliminary release by the Virginia State Police, it stated Eppard returned to his crashed 2006 Ford Ranger truck prior to stealing the unmarked Green Cty car. If he were attempting to have a police stand off, why would he not take the two rifles he brought with him? He left his guns behind.
It also states in the report that Eppard is seen on the video from the STOLEN police car retrieving the shotgun from the trunk and loading it, how is that possible considering all the cameras are dash mounted?
Can someone explain to me how the officers have been cleared, but the footage of both Eppards actions and their responses, the very evidence of the incident cannot be released? One of the officers involved, Caleb Marden, was fired for reasons nobody is willing to comment on.
There is only ONE way that is legal; if is part of an ONGOING investigation.
So what investigation is it an active part of?
(Editors note: If Mr. Eppard put ANYONE’s safety at risk through his actions, in the end, I say what happened to him was done to protect others, which I support. That said, as it was not so long ago a Virginia Conservation Officer was indicted for the involuntary manslaughter of a 16 year old kid whose girlfriend he was trying to grab out of his moving car, and later had the charges dismissed, I think it is worthy of conversation.)
Byrd Watching DungSmoke – January 22, 2010
James Byrd Gunn, resident or squatter at 5027 Stoney Point Rd, Barboursville, VA owned by Piedmont Manor Land Trust, was busted for possession of Marijuana with intent to deliver, and possession of a firearm as a felon.
TODAY, Mr. Big Gunn is on the Run-Run. He was indicted on both counts Monday and declared a fugitive this afternoon.
CR10000107-00 GUNN, JAMES BYRD POSSESS MARIJUANA W/INTENT 06/07/2010 Active
CR10000169-00 GUNN, JAMES BYRD FELON W/ A FIREARM 04/08/2010 Fugitive
In a SEPERATE arrest on January 23rd, 2010, Jeremy Manning– Smith 
(JMS) with the cool 144 acre pad in Keswick, also indicted on 4/5/2010 , may turn to the fivefold plan to help him out. JMS keeps a cool $55K recession-proof wad around for emergencies. Mr. Manning-Smith is a long time composter, although he never really states what he is growing.
Lisa Powers, copperworks and the fivefold planners say burn the dung. They are pals, although I doubt she is securing his bond.
Cash Runs OUT.. January 24th, 2010
Jason Todd Cash, with NO CHARGES OR WARRANTS PENDING allegedly tries to kill a cop when he is stopped in Nelson Cty in a vehicle registered to someone in Buckingham County. Remind you of anyone? He ran from the scene, leaving the vehicle and eluded police on foot.
The vehicle was impounded. He apparently is driving on a revoked license, which county has that occurred in? We will get back to J-money.
NON Garden Party…. January 25th
At approximately 10PM on the evening of January 25, Albemarle County Fire and rescue services responds to a call at the 37 acre farm of award winning gardening and horticulture experts John Sauer and his wife Cathy Clary. It is listed as a tactical incident rescue and as of March 24, 2010 is still an open incident. What was it? Who or what needed rescuing?
Mr. Sauer is the long-time gardner for Carr’s Hill, the residence of the President of UVA. Carr’s Hill was the former site of the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity until 2003 when it was moved by the city to it’s current location on Culbreth. Ms. Clary is a horticulture proffessor at UVA, and most recently taught a home landscaping course which included a field trip the afternoon of Saturday October 17, 2009.
The Sauers are also members of Piedmont Landscaping Association, which is open to anyone in the landscaping field and the Virginia Cooperative Extension.
Interestingly enough, there were several fire alarm activations on the UVA campus on this same day. Faulkner House reported a residential fire around 4:10 am.
Threes Company, Four is Combustible..Jan 26th
Sometime after 10PM, the residential fire at 3323 Sutherland Rd breaks out.
This would be the fire that is still an OPEN INCIDENT.
This fire,as you can see, was no curling-iron-left-on.
It allegedly started after the residents were asleep, although they had all apparently packed their belongings and were on a month to month lease, 2 had already moved out.
In fact, according to Peruvian vacationer and dog owner of Blanca, the pit bull that perished in the blaze, he was not aware of the fire until days after the fact because he was with friends in Peru.
Convenient, if you ask me, as he has a previous weed distribution and subsequent traffic charge in December 2009.
Meet new pup to the left. In fairness to fair-weather k9’s of America, he was only asking for dog-sitting, and not on the lease. Choose your kenneling wisely people.
The residential fire at the 3000 block of Sutherland Rd has some issues. For starters, you have the first press release regarding the possible accidental fire since as far back as 2003 before a cause determination has been made.
Additionally the release itself appears to have missed the fact that approximately 2 hours after the last apparatus departs, there is an additional call back to the property requiring 12 responders within minutes of the discovery of Morgan Harrington’s remains. They may have literally passed each other on Route 29; they definitely would have heard the dispatcher.
The former owner of the Sutherland property is buried on Anchorage Farm. A relative of the current owners has hunted the Anchorage Farm property.
The band in the image on the left is pictured practicing in the Sutherland home.
A firefighter, whose identity blinkoncrime is choosing to withhold, who fought the fire, without sleeping took an impromptu trip to New Jersey with his ..”aunt, uncle, cousin, his cousins uncle and a friend..” at 10:23PM January 27th, driving straight through without stopping and returned to North Garden by 1:45PM January 28th. Through his own facebook postings, he spends the bulk of his time when he is not volunteering for the North Garden Fire Department at his cousins; a Toco Hill address also listed as the home for a recently released registered sex offender.
Retired Greene Sheriff Takes His Own Life.. January 28
There is no evidence to suggest that William “Willie” Linwood Morris’s suicide has anything in common with the Morgan Harrington’s case directly, with the exception that there are obviously folks that knew him as well as other individuals being discussed. I have spoken with a family member, and an individual who has known him for twenty years and by those accounts Willie was in deep discomfort from the tinnicus he suffered from.
He took care of every detail prior to ending his life behind the barn on his farm in Stanardsville, VA, including withdrawing the cash for his own funeral.
Willie Morris was found by Captain Randall Snead, who was allegedly supposed to be on desk duty until the Eppard case investigation was completed. According to Commonwealth Attorney Denise Lunsford, that was not completed until February 9, 2010, almost 2 weeks later.
Cash is Busted on a Tip.. March 19
Not long out of Nelson County jail for a non-violent offense, Jason Todd Cash is being held in Albemarle County jail since his arrest around 1am the morning of Friday March 19.
One has to wonder if the tip about where Jmoney was hanging out on Secretary Sand Rd from his kin in Amherst.
Clint Cash, a registered sex offender was arrested in December on a felony parole violation and is facing some heavy time . His wife Donna, had just pled guilty to a misdemeanor the day before the tip came in regarding JT Cash’s whereabouts and received a suspended sentence.
Jason Cash was apprehended with help from Bink, the new Albemarle County k9 when the house he was staying in on Secretary Sands was raided and he attempted to stay hidden inside.
What are Coincidences… What are clues?
The aforementioned volunteer for NGVFD lives in same stretch of Secretary Sands Rd.
Yet another relative of Jason Cash, a registered Sex Offender, shares an employer with the cousin of “volunteer”, and volunteer; specializing in outdoor landscape lighting.
Colby Eppard was stopped in the area of Green Creek Rd that is a large parcel of land owned by Cash family member.
As far as making allegations in this report, there are none. The investigation of the events contained herein are entirely based on public information and witness accounts.
I have come to the conclusion that while we cannot say specifically which one of the issues discussed directly relate to the murder of Morgan Harrington, a primary or secondary scene integral to the investigation of same, and the hunt for her killer(s), but I do believe the incidents need to explored fully in a public forum.
Jason Mateos and Elizabeth Morton contributing editors to this report.
Blinkoncrime.com posters justice for morgan and juliemooly contributed research credits.
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Okay, I’m all-aboard your logic train, B.
In regard to a recap of some of your recent statements:
“What I am getting, unfortunately, is conflicting accounts of activities within the arena, disconcerting.~B”
“I think in this situation people make decisions on what may or may not be relevant, and that could be ommitting information that is needed.~B”
“… For starters, 2 of the 3 friends were LOOKING FOR MORGAN inside the arena right after she went to the bathroom but BEFORE SS called her at 8:48PM. They were walking around the arena, trying to locate her…
“Not only were they NOT in their seats the whole time, as was stated, but there was some reason for alarm almost immediately following Morgan heading to the bathroom that necessitated them looking for her and then finally calling her. What was that?~B”
In a word, drugs – their usage, that is. I’m hazarding a guess here, of course (though, one that’s rooted in LE’s statement divulging MH was intoxicated in some form that night, and thus acting irrationally), but C’mon. This was a party-hardy group of friends at a very special event they had all looked forward to for awhile. There are drug references throughout MH and her circles’ social-networking sites… and, hell, I know the kind of stuff I did back then.
Point being, tainting the image of their missing/dead friend (and incriminating themselves) would be a solid (if not self-serving) motivator to *not* detail exactly what they/she consumed that night – perhaps once inside the arena.
If she was seriously impaired, maybe swaying/slurring/snuggling them excessively during the first part of LOG’s set, and then she disappeared for the bathroom – falling to the floor on the way – that would be a serious reason for concern.
Personally, context clues considered, I think they were rolling on ecstacy – and people usually stick together when doing such a strong, disoriening drug for good reason. In fact, a lot of people I knew who did it back in college would plan on being home – as, while E got its party rep in rave clubs, it’s not conducive to being functional.
In addition, taking into account the amount of opiates it’s often cut with, there’s a good chance MH may have gotten physically sick. That’s be another reason for concern/trying to find her on the part of the friends (who may have been rolling on it themselves, further adding to their confusion about the night in general).
We are on the same page. I don’t know how or when they may have been a factor, but something is being ommitted or withheld, imo.
B
The girl I am referring to doesn’t have an orange or red bracelet on either. I am referring to the girl to the right of the guy with the orange/red bracelet. To the right, meaning, if you are facing the computer screen, she is to the right of the guy. Sorry for the confusion.
Blink, I don’t think I’ve seen this asked before. We know that Morgan’s Pantera shirt was not found with her remains. But did they find a different shirt with her remains? (Say, Metallica? In case she bought one at the show, changed into it and left her Pantera shirt on her seat early on, and then the friends ended up with it when she disappeared?)
Just a kooky thought.
They did not.
B
@ Blink’s comment to Mom3.0 April 29, 2010 at 10:59 am
“For starters, 2 of the 3 friends were LOOKING FOR MORGAN inside the arena right after she went to the bathroom but BEFORE SS called her at 8:48PM. They were walking around the arena, trying to locate her so how can they say WHERE AND WHEN any one of them was captured on tape?
Not only were they NOT in their seats the whole time, as was stated, but there was some reason for alarm almost immediately following Morgan heading to the bathroom that necessitated them looking for her and then finally calling her. What was that?”
Well, I must say this makes sense to me. If they knew something was wrong (e.g. if she didn’t return as expected) or if they heard from someone that she had collapsed, they would have been walking around the arena looking for her. But after one of the friends spoke to her, and she stated that she was fine, albeit this was unfortunately not the case, they thought there was no need for action.
I 100% agree with Skyler’s post @ 11:19 am. If the Harringtons want the public’s continued support and involvement then it’s time for some truthful, straight-forward answers. Blink, I am not aware of where you posted on this and I haven’t seen anything that answers these questions. Maybe I missed it, can you direct me to it/link? Thanks.
*Skyler said: “Has the info we’ve been given from the beginning all been a lie, and is it true that Morgan traveled in a different car and that the girls and Dan never had contact w/ her after that —
Seriously, Blink, it’s a simple answer and the H’s owe us that — and they owe the 1000 people who gave up their time w/ their own families looking for Morgan a huge freaking apology for the direct lie, which was totally unnecessary…”
*Blink said: “Pay no attention Sky, I posted on this-
B”
I am not sure what you meant to infer or comment on, so I will just say-
At NO TIME have the Harrington’s mislead a soul in their efforts to find Morgan- they are just as much at the mercy as anyone in trying to get correct information.
I never saw anywhere what Sky references about them not being in the same car.
My best advice is to read it here, and decide for yourself. I can’t control rumor mongering, but I can sometimes state things as fact or rumor to keep focused.
B
unbelievable … almost 7 months and there is no confirmation of any real factual information. didn’t anyone ask security why she was ejected from the arena? WAS she ejected from the arena? WHY was she ejected from the arena? DID she leave of her own accord? there … was that so challenging?
once again … the friends know something and are not talking. i don’t care if they have been instructed not to … they know what went on.
7 months … if LE had something, they would have acted on it. they have nothing. they will have to wait until someone rolls up on people watching a sunset and blasts them from behind in order to progress. everyday that goes by and i watch what is going on in this case (nothing) it makes me think there is someone involved from VSP / JPJ Arena. i guess the most frustrating thing is to know that a person can disappear from a very public place and end up dead without a single person knowing what went on. the perfect crime.
@ Mom3.0 April 29, 2010 at 10:59 am
Good work! Even though I can’t tell whether it was her or not, she would have to be identified by someone who actually knew her, I agree that the person in the video is intoxicated or impaired in some way. There is something about the way she moves her head that is not ok. Maybe there are any medical professionals on this site who could comment on that?
I think it is readily evident that I was commenting in response to Skylar’s comment – which I included and referenced. And your response to Skylar. I’m not sure why you didn’t just post this reply on Skylar’s initial comment then, rather than on mine.
***Blink said: “I am not sure what you meant to infer or comment on, so I will just say-
At NO TIME have the Harrington’s mislead a soul in their efforts to find Morgan- they are just as much at the mercy as anyone in trying to get correct information.
I never saw anywhere what Sky references about them not being in the same car.
My best advice is to read it here, and decide for yourself. I can’t control rumor mongering, but I can sometimes state things as fact or rumor to keep focused.
B”
Sorry, my bad, I didn’t get it.
B
i think the key to this case will ultimately come down to:
what happened inside the arena that caused Morgan to go outside?
why did Morgan go outside?
why can’t security / JPJ arena security remember anything about this girl who was unable to get back into the concert?
the reason why i have lost faith in LE is because i believe if we had the information and the evidence (or lack there of) … we would have had this solved months ago. DNA testing and toxicology results do not take this long to process. sorry gang. you are being duped in your area. this case continues to make it evident that it is the community vs. University and the University continues to win at the expense of the community.
I have mentioned the possibility of an argument. I was hopeful that posting that would bring someone that is aware of what transpired leading up to Morgan exiting the arena to respond to progress the conversation in a non-accusatory way.
No dice.
So I will just come right out and say it-
There [B]WAS[/B] an argument.
It may have had absolutely nothing to do with what ultimately happened to Morgan outside JPJ. Friends have arguments all the time without the expectation that it is the last time you will ever see your friend again, I would not wish that on anyone.
That said, that information is pertinent to why/who/how she got outside, which to my knowledge, is exactly what NOBODY KNOWS. Or do they?
B
“We are on the same page. I don’t know how or when they may have been a factor, but something is being ommitted or withheld, imo.B”
Just asking but would that constitute an accessory of something?
Before, during or after and why they may have lawyers?
Maybe they did try to cover for Morgan, the next morning because they felt bad about a fight and as time wore on they conviently lost her camera? They began to realize that the shit was about to hit the fan. They were scared and CYA’d. There had to be some photos.
JRK says April 29 1:47
“If she was seriously impaired, maybe swaying/slurring/snuggling them excessively during the first part of LOG’s set, and then she disappeared for the bathroom – falling to the floor on the way – that would be a serious reason for concern.”
“Personally, context clues considered, I think they were rolling on ecstacy – and people usually stick together when doing such a strong, disoriening drug for good reason. In fact, a lot of people I knew who did it back in college would plan on being home – as, while E got its party rep in rave clubs, it’s not conducive to being functional.”
*****
I hate to judge but I third the motion. Friendly or not, that girl we saw cuddling to the girlfriend is a little more enthusiatic than I would think in the middle of a concert. Then take the possible arm joining outside with kickee, she may have been feeling overly friendly.
Overly trusting to the wrong A**HOLES.
Wow Blink, thanks for that HUGE tidbit. We had heard from Corinne Geller that Morgan had not been kicked out, which means she left on her own. From what I understand she had been to JPJ numerous times, and to other concerts at other venues…she would have at least known, if she was not aware of JPJ’s rule of no-entry, to get her hand stamped. We know this is not possible at JPJ, I’m just saying she knew she was leaving and was leaving for a reason. This is a big thing to admit.
I don’t think we can say she left on her own accord, or that it was her intention if we do not know how she got outside.
B
I think Morgan was crying for a reason other than hurting her chin
OMG! Is all I can say right now. OMG!
well said, B.
5.J2K says:
April 29, 2010 at 1:47 pm
J: Looks like I should have gone forward with the Snitch Fund here at party central! I am thinking that none of these kids have found any sort of solace. The truth sets all free but just not them???
God, what has our society come to if we cannot even rely on the future of America to say what they mean and mean what they say.
Kids, so you did drugs! Who cares, well, I do but not right now. Just speak up for your dead friend.
So far the only brave one concerning this case is the dead girl herself…
Morgan Dana Harrington!
Dr. and Mrs. Harrington, I apologize if this sounds harsh.
I do not ever mean to be. We are here with you.
Skyler:
Speak it loud and proud. It never hurts to ask the questions, only silence is dangerous!
But Cosmo, I live here and am part of both the UVa and local communities, and this is not about UVa v. Charlottesville. Everyone wanted Morgan to be found, and everyone wants Morgan’s killers brought to justice. There is not a huge public rift in this case, honestly. Nobody knows much of anything, and if you were actually here and talking to residents you’d see that no one is blaming anyone else. (Please don’t rely on bloggers from some of the local papers for your information, thanks.)
what does this mean? There [B]WAS[/B] an argument
cosmo, B, et al – re: Why oh why…
The Coz said: “i think the key to this case will ultimately come down to: what happened inside the arena that caused Morgan to go outside?
why did Morgan go outside?
“… i believe if we had the information and the evidence (or lack there of) … we would have had this solved months ago. sorry gang. you are being duped in your area. this case continues to make it evident that it is the community vs. University and the University continues to win at the expense of the community.”
All due respect, c, but I do not agree.
Whatever the heck happened inside that arena or earlier in the day – whatEVER cause Morgan to be seriously impaired, to separate from her friends inside, and to end up outside – whatever That was, it was Not what killed her. I simply do *not* believe that she knew the person or group through which she met her ultimate demise later that night – there is absolutely nothing to indicate that.
Do I think she and her friends made bad choices on Oct. 17? Yes.
Do I think something significant – and something we may not be privvy to – happened inside the arena that spurred her departure and inability to re-enter? Yes. Further – do I think it had to do with drug use/effects? Yes, yes I do.
But that’s where the proverbial record screeches to a stop.
Once she was outside and alone, the path Morgan chose – and the decision by her friends not to go after her, even if it meant missing Metallica – *That* is what it “comes down to.” *That* is what sent her into that fateful night. *That* is what led her to inadvertantly become prey.
This case, in my opinion, does not pivot on what happened before she was outside – though, there might not have been a case at all if certain actions did not take place up until that point resulting in her condition and predicament. My point being: If the venue’s internal activity was the engine that drove the course of her last night on earth, this investigation would have likely resulted in an arrest by now.
Say what you will about the seeming lack of surveillance video and ineffective security procedures at JPJ, but the arena was a contained environment – i.e., if she was targeted there, the perp(s) would have surely been identified by now and/or the investigation would have proceeded much differently.
The all-but-hopeless-until-her-body-was-found nature of this case – and the corner it turned after that point – is indicative of such. It’s also indicative of an unknown (to her previously) assailant(s).
I hope against hope that her homicide investigation results in multiple arrests soon. But that conclusion is not reliant on the friends or UVA coming clean; I firmly believe it is reliant on someone in the Albemarle County community coming clean.
If there was an argument, when did this take place? Earlier in the evening? After the kiss on the check and exit of the arena? I just want to get a glimpse into the flow of that evening…
I will say if the friends were arguing, I would doubt the fact that they would be on ecstasy. It is way too lovey-dovey of a drug.
fish -
Ya know, if we had gone with your Jersey-Fresh suggestion from the get-go (taking Metallica’s $50k and using it to pay a team of renegades to hunt down the perp/bust through his door/drag him – or them – to LE), well, justice might be moving a lot more swiftly…
Just sayin’.
Today would be the busiest day I’ve had in a couple years. I am dying to focus on this case and I cannot.
All I can say about news there actually was an argument is this, to VSP: There is too much conflicting info out there now, friends are coming forward with all the mixed/altered recollections that happen over the course of 6 MONTHS, and something has to give. I really, really think it’s time for a comment. Call it information management, call it damage control. Get out there and speak, for God’s sake. Help us help you.
Re: the Roseland incident of today (possible murder suicide). Just a reminder to all that Roseland is Jason Cash’s neck of the woods in Nelson County. Can anyone find news about a scheduled 4/21 court appearance he was supposed to make in Nelson County? (I will hunt it down tomorrow, if it’s out there; I just can’t spend the time today.)
I totally agree with J2K…IMO drugs are the root of this entire case.
J2K mentioned the drug references, ie:facebook, etc, Morgan’s own words when speaking of “unicorns”. In this context, unicorns are indeed another word for ecstacy/X. This I know to be a fact and when I first saw posts regarding unicorns, I immediately knew/thought exactly what J2K just said “OMG they were doing X” and that would cerainly explain the irrational behavior. It would also explain why they immediately went to look for Morgan in the arena, especially if alcohol or other drugs were in the mix. Shrooms make lots of people sick in the first hour or so after ingesting them and I wondered if they had done shrooms as well.
I know this has been rehashed over and over, but the guy parked beside them before the concert really bothers me. I can’t explain it, but I just feel in my gut something is wrong with his portrayal of their interaction with Morgan and friends. Just his one statement of what she said makes me cringe every time I read it or think about it. Something to the effect “Who’s the opening band?” “Oh, who cares…we’re here to see Metallica right?” Call it what you will, but I just know/feel she never said this. Why? She would have known who the opening band was…she would have known. Morgan lived and breathed music, it was a huge part of her life, she obviously was excited to see the show….she would have known. So why the lie? Why all the lies and deceit in this case? IMO the answer is what I’ve felt all along, drugs.
God bless you Mom for all your hours of watching video and Blink there aren’t enough words in my vocabulary to convey my feelings for all you’ve done for precious Morgan. God bless you too Blink…a zillion + times. Like many others, I’m very hopeful things are reaching a cresendo. I pray it comes soon.
Like many has said, we’ve been in Morgan’s place, we’ve walked in her shoes. Partying, drugs, etc…..hell I’m not perfect and neither are many others, but we’re still here to talk about it. But why the eff isn’t Morgan? This thought haunts me night and day.
J2K – excellent post and i hope you are correct.
An argument makes HUGE amount of sense – and would explain her actions/reactions quite well.
Trying to put myself in her shoes…..if I were her age, pissed at my friends and drunk besides? You bet I’d make some choices – out of anger – that wouldn’t be very smart.
It would explain her sudden exit – and her finding her OWN way home. If she wasn’t mad at her friends – something tells me she would have stayed close by so she could have ridden home with them.
Huh.
localcvillegirl – obviously, not EVERYONE wanted Morgan to be found …
Wow Blink that is the longest response I have ever seen from you(and not just to me)
That says to me that you believe that the video/s capture a moment of time that may shed light, or at least that the video led you and others to ponder the whole question of “what happened to Morgan inside the arena”
I should know enough to know, that unless something is CONFIRMED by you, then everything’s in until its out.
Understood, and thanks to Saramom, Eloise, Fish, AnotherB and all for your kindness.
I understand the importance of getting the truth Blink, without it we are missing pieces to the puzzle.- which makes it impossible to ever be able to get the complete picture.
I have felt from day 1 that Morgan’s so-called friends were pretty lousy friends to have left Morgan wandering alone outside while they partied away inside the arena that night. I’m sorry, but friends don’t let friends drive drunk and they don’t leave their friends ALONE, especially a young woman in a city outside their normal terrain, PERIOD… And now we hear there was an argument of some sort. Well, don’t that just take the cake? They were initially worried & searching for Morgan, but then they get a call from her stating she’ll find a way home or HH, all the way from Charlottesville, so they’re what, “not worried” anymore, so they party right on with tickets that Dr. Harrington initially bought? Their friend is outside in the rain, no car keys, her cell dies & they can’t get in touch with her, but hey, they’re there to see Metallica. Well I guess those pics we got to see of them partying it up again at Halloween shows just how worried they were.
I’m so disgusted. And I’m sorry, but I’m GLAD they are going to have to live with this. That’s right. I said it. So sue me…And to the so called friend who has the dad that’s a cop, I KNOW you knew better, DOUBLE SHAME on you!!!
So I will just come right out and say it-
There WAS an argument.
It may have had absolutely nothing to do with what ultimately happened to Morgan outside JPJ. Friends have arguments all the time without the expectation that it is the last time you will ever see your friend again, I would not wish that on anyone.
That said, that information is pertinent to why/who/how she got outside, which to my knowledge, is exactly what NOBODY KNOWS. Or do they?
B
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Could this have been a physical altercation? Could Morgan’s chin injury and crying in the bathroom have been a result of this? Could this explain the sense of urgency in locating her?
It has been painfully obvious from day one that her “friends” have been less than forthcoming. How can LE state that they are ONLY concerned with what transpired OUTSIDE of the arena?
There are things coming to light now that need explaining. Perhaps the importance of this video is now being realized.
Yes, that is correct. Thank You
B
For starters, 2 of the 3 friends were LOOKING FOR MORGAN inside the arena right after she went to the bathroom but BEFORE SS called her at 8:48PM. They were walking around the arena, trying to locate her so how can they say WHERE AND WHEN any one of them was captured on tape?
Not only were they NOT in their seats the whole time, as was stated, but there was some reason for alarm almost immediately following Morgan heading to the bathroom that necessitated them looking for her and then finally calling her. What was that?
Who is to say that Morgan was not watching from that area with the intention of heading back to the seats, to look up and not see them? Tons of scenarios in play with only one ending, sadly.
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If this is true, I have to say I am PROFOUNDLY angered and disgusted with her friends. If they were so “alarmed” as your source has suggested, WHY in the heck (not first choice of words) DIDN’T HER FRIENDS CALL THE POLICE, THE HARRINGTON’S, OR ANYONE THEY COULD THINK OF!!! I am sorry but logic tells me if I am freaking out that one of my friends is unlocatable, I wouldn’t get in HER car and fricken leave town!!!!!!! OH I am so upset I am shaking!! THEY KNEW something was wrong and they chose to blow it off! Amy and Sarah should feel the weight of the world on them for being such crappy friends! THEY KNEW something was wrong….THEY KNEW!!!
Well, in fairness, she may very well have told them she was leaving and they could take the car home, but I am not feeling that.
B
We are on the same page. I don’t know how or when they may have been a factor, but something is being ommitted or withheld, imo.
B
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If that’s being omitted or withheld in order to protect themselves- What else are they “omitting”?
The only reason that would make me leave an event like this (to cool off…not go home) would be if I found out that my friend “fooled around” with my current gf/bf or ex when I was dating them.
Any other reason; money, pms, drugs, whatever… wouldn’t be enough to set me off so bad that I would need to go and have a “breather” at such an awesome event with a smoking area.
I don’t think we can say she left on her own accord, or that it was her intention if we do not know how she got outside.
B
But someone likely knows this, right? It’s hard to fall out a door in such a busy place without being noticed. I’d sure like to know what her conversations were with her friends before and after she found herself outside. Someone knows something.
tarheellvr, I’m with you on the Dave Gardner statement. Morgan’s comment to him does not fly, I don’t believe she ever said that.
Blink said:
“For starters, 2 of the 3 friends were LOOKING FOR MORGAN inside the arena right after she went to the bathroom but BEFORE SS called her at 8:48PM. They were walking around the arena, trying to locate her so how can they say WHERE AND WHEN any one of them was captured on tape?”
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How do you know this to be true? Is this directly from her friends?
T/A: You know me better than to ask me a direct source, sorry.
B
cosmo says:
April 29, 2010 at 3:44 pm
localcvillegirl – obviously, not EVERYONE wanted Morgan to be found …
LOL cosmo, you’re right. Hopefully this will all come to an end soon.
for J2K:
re: your post above at 3:15 today, April 29
I SO agree with you here. The only part I am unsure of is the drug use, but that also fits the theory I have had for quite some time. Could not have stated it better.
“Do I think she and her friends made bad choices on Oct. 17? Yes.
Do I think something significant – and something we may not be privvy to – happened inside the arena that spurred her departure and inability to re-enter? Yes. Further – do I think it had to do with drug use/effects? Yes, yes I do.
But that’s where the proverbial record screeches to a stop.
Once she was outside and alone, the path Morgan chose – and the decision by her friends not to go after her, even if it meant missing Metallica – *That* is what it “comes down to.” *That* is what sent her into that fateful night. *That* is what led her to inadvertantly become prey.
This case, in my opinion, does not pivot on what happened before she was outside – though, there might not have been a case at all if certain actions did not take place up until that point resulting in her condition and predicament. My point being: If the venue’s internal activity was the engine that drove the course of her last night on earth, this investigation would have likely resulted in an arrest by now. “
Well aside from a problem with a boyfriend, what about drug use? Did someone partake when they promised not too? Did someone get slipped something they didn’t sign up for? Also curious about the designated driver, if he was a last minute fill in, who was going to drive if he didn’t come along? And Dave G, hmm, that does require further interst. Where is he from, not NJ right? Yes it is weird, he is supposed to know Dee, small world when no one ever saw anything.
Well, in fairness, she may very well have told them she was leaving and they could take the car home, but I am not feeling that.
B
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Blink, ALL due respect to you….I call BS!!! If THEY LIED about where they were sitting, THEY ARE LYING about the video being Morgan, and My belief is THEY ARE LYING about her saying she would get a ride. THEY KNEW she was upset…THEY KNEW she was stuck outside. THEY KNEW something was up when they couldn’t reach her after the concert and THEY KNEW BETTER THAN TO LEAVE A FRIEND BUT THEY DID IT ANYWAY!!!
Seriously, I am in my 40′s and when my best friend and I go out, I still tell her to call me when she gets home to make sure she is ok. 8:48 SS last talked to her and she didn’t try to call Morgan after the concert when THEY KNEW she missed the concert???? I call BS! BS! BS! (shouting loudly) Surely FRIENDS WOULD WORRY and try to reach her….Can LE confirm the multitude of messages that her “FRIENDS” left on her voicemail after the concert is over, verifying that she is ok???? Is there even 1 test from them to her saying “We are leaving, you ok??”
I am so sad I want to cry and scream. I thought I wouldn’t get this upset. I can grasp some sick stranger hurting her, but her frienemies hurt her in a different way….they didn’t care!
Friends don’t leave town and then have a party 2 weeks later mocking her!!! THEY KNEW!!!!!
check this out …
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/crime/article/student_accused_of_threat_at_bottom_of_an_emotional_abyss/51443/
any relation to Morgan’s case?
B – Of course someone knows why she left the arena, in fact, I am almost certain. However, I would think you would have to assume that the REASON may not be as significant as originally thought to believe. if the reason is immaterial to the case, LE has no basis disclosing the reason to the public, do they? If so, aren’t we then barking up the wrong tree tying to figure out that reason?
i couldnt agree more that the friends have some more explaining to do…
i was going to list the potential reasons one might ‘look’ for another, prior to knowing that they need to be looked for…
at the top of my list was a fight/argument, especially with friends that involved one party ‘storming’ off…and then B posted this as fact…so a new list derived…
Why one would fight/argue with friends at a pre-planned huge event:
1. fraternizing with someone not condoned by friends(either Morgan with someone, or friends with someone Morgan didnt like, perhaps even her own ex that friends still liked)
2. “overpartying” too early, and friends having to babysit you(had a good buddy like that, it is a runaway train, and you can see it a mile away)
3. DRUGS…someone got burned, someone was bogarted, someone was jonesin and being annoying, someone was AGAINST doing them at all(i have been that guy, and that guy is not very popular)??
4. money…were the friends to pay Morgan in cash that night for the tix that her pop bought and stiffed her?
just food for thought…but the friends know more, and yes they have made statements, but statements that could easily be out of context and sound very innocent especially the “i’ll get my own way home” convo…
OK, stoned.
OK, fight.
OK, fell.
OK, outside arena.
OK, attempts to regain entrance.
OK, pinged around lots.
OK, Who’s car did she get in???
2 of 3 friends? Then where was the third? Dumping her on Anchorage Farm? That’s what you get when you don’t tell the truth!
Rumors, gossip, wild inuendo, oh yea, more lies!
It’s a good deal to live with and they are all only 20+ years old.
Where are their parents? (disgusting, judgemental voice)
Are you seeking help for them? Or just sitting on your lawyered-up asses? This WILL manifest itself later in their lives, you know.
I believe that this may side track us from who took Morgan’s life, unless they go hand in hand. And well, I don’t want to believe it. I’ll believe B, when she says they were just “shitty friends”.
But I will give my opinion! Sitting down the way from that girl, she didn’t want to be there. Just didn’t. There was a smugness. I thought, My God, why not? I don’t think that Sarah had accepted Morgan could have been killed. She was too worried about the possible drug use. Remember November 6th, was still very close to her going missing.
Cripe all mighty, they still were partying it up on Halloween.
She was in denial and never wanted questioned about their own behavior that night and with all of us around, plus media…Sarah was frightened and in the face of it all, she came off smug and smirking.
The mask of her own temporary insanity. I feel for her.
Also, could Morgan have been rooting through her purse for her keys? If she was not of sound mind, maybe she forgot she didn’t have them?
So, I ask again why the need to put her on that Locationx3, when there were so many other spots. They put her there because they never wanted her found. The side of the road would have been to easily linked back. So who knows Anchorage Farm?
26.J2K says:
April 29, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Ya Right! I see you have met my father!
cosmo -
Thanks, friend. I certainly didn’t intend to tee-off so forcefully on your perfectly rational post regarding omitted details of the girls’ situation/experience. As critical observers of this case, we have the ability to examine each and every facet of the evening – it’s LE that needs to unearth her tracks – and those of others – from 9 p.m. on (imo).
B -
I couldn’t help but notice that you repeatedly (and purposely?) asserted *SS called MH* at 8:48 p.m., rather than the other way around. It may be wholly insignificant, but any reason for the grammatical switcheroo of objects in that oft-cited sentence?
Just curious.
Also, thanks for confirming my fears surrounding The Shirt.
So. Now we know MH was found on AF sans shirt, boots, eccentric socks(?) and (possibly) special necklace from Alex.
So how does the argument fit the timeline? If the video on the floor is Morgan then when does the argument take place? The girls definitely seem to be getting along in the video. What could have happened in such a short time to send things so far out of control? Based on the song and the set list, there couldn’t have been much time left before she ends up outside. And I totally agree with DMB about the ecstacy. Having been around it on several occasions, I can honestly say I have NEVER seen anyone argue on that drug.
Could one of you nice people please be so good as to clue me in to WTF is going on? Thank you kindly, lol.
I would like to be second in line for that, please.
B
T/A: You know me better than to ask me a direct source, sorry.
B
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Indeed. I really didn’t mean the question that way… I should have worded it better. That’s what happens to a Coyote when he tries to keep up with a Roadrunner. Anyway, what I was really shooting for was if this was previously mentioned by the friends and I missed it- or if it was from LE.
@ suz April 29, 2010 at 2:01 pm
“Blink, I don’t think I’ve seen this asked before. We know that Morgan’s Pantera shirt was not found with her remains. But did they find a different shirt with her remains? (Say, Metallica? In case she bought one at the show, changed into it and left her Pantera shirt on her seat early on, and then the friends ended up with it when she disappeared?)
Just a kooky thought.
They did not.
B”
So that leaves us with a shirtless body, a shirt in good overall condition found in a different location, and defensive wounds indicating a violent and desperate fight for her life.
If she didn’t change into another shirt, why did she take it off?