Morgan Harrington Murder: Coincidences or Clues ?
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North Garden, VA– Morgan Harrington, the 20 year old fair-haired, radiant beauty, was brutally murdered after disappearing from the John Paul Jones arena the evening of October 17, 2009.
Morgans remains were recovered the morning of January 26, 2010 in a hayfield on Anchorage Farm, owned by David and Nancy Bass.
Since Morgan was found by Mr. Bass that blackest of days in January, there has been rampant speculation about her last hours and how she ended up in the creek bed of total strangers.
A sequence of events and incidents in the days and hours preceding and following the January 26, 2010, discovery of Morgan Harrington’s skeletal remains on Anchorage Farm continues to attract attention from pundits and volunteers dedicated to Morgan’s cause.
Although naysayers point to a lack of a viable connection, and police have disavowed a link, others say emergency services runs to a nearby fire and also other responses which are not supported by publicly available documentation has led to calls for more complete disclosure to eliminate any connection or chance of prank calls to misdirect or busy first responders.
The editors of www.blinkoncrime.com present a series of events occurring in Albemarle County, VA that pose the question:
What the Hell is going on and what does it have to do with Morgan Harrington’s murder?
The Monsoons of Albemarle County …. PD
Ok, maybe I meant “The monsoor”. Karl Monsoor that is.
Former Officer Karl Monsoor had been tugging on the shirtail of ACPD for years before he finally left with pocketfuls of sunshine. Almost 500 G’s.
It is not my intention to be glib, it is my intention to say that as one of the youngest police departments in the country, enacted in 1983, this tank needed algeacide before this past March.
Death By Cop.. January 1, 2010
Colby Eppard, described by some as a cross between Gomer Pyle and cool hand luke, had the rawest of deals growing up in Greene County.
According to his foster-mommy-aunt, Tammy Harlow Cox, Colby was hit by a car at a very young age and suffered a brain injury that apparently served to shape his future of home upheavel and juvenile detention facilities.
Ms. Cox, to whom Colby Eppard was entrusted for a time as a foster parent, is no stranger to the judicial system. Tammy was arrested for admittedly having sex with 3 High School seniors athletes on the Varsity Football Team, where her own sons attended. The same school Colby elected to leave without his diploma.
Colby’s family recalls better times, and I don’t think anyone believes this is the last we have heard of this case.
Specifically under VA statute, Greene County Captain Randall Snead was out of his jurisdiction, both when he was called about Colby stealing the patrol car and the fact that he was in North Garden, Albemarle County, looking for it. It would seem the Greene County Roster could accommodate a deputy vs. a captain to respond, no? Keep in mind, EVERY responding officer was put on desk duty pending the investigation, through at least February 9th, 2010.
While the attorney for the Commonwealth, Denise Lunsford has cleared all officers from all participating counties involved, none of the dash cams have been released despite requests through The Freedom of Information Act..
According to Ms. Lunsford, in an incident that spanned almost 70 miles and over 2 and a half hours where traffic was rerouted and stringers were used, Colby Eppard was allegedly wielding the 20 gauge Greene County Issue out the windows, not one LEO attempted to engage or respond to Eppard in an effort to get him to pull over, or negotiate his surrender at any time.
In fact, according to statements from Snead, Albemarle Deputies Fields and Marden, they were all in place on the south junction of 20 “in the event” he went that way, yet, they did not block traffic until after the stinger caused Eppard to crash.
My biggest question regarding this incident is: Did anyone ask Colby Eppard why he would take the truck and 2 rifles on New Years day ending up in Albemarle County?
Was it related to a New Years Eve occurrance of a friend, family member or associate of his? After Sgt. Hutchinson loses Eppard near the Nelson line, the next time he is seen is parked on Green Creek Rd, back in Albemarle.
What route did he take from 29 South to end up there? Was he seeking Red Hill Road where the overdose call came in to EMS the night before?
By all accounts he was a troubled young man with challenges throughout his young 18 years.
Additionally corroborated by those that knew him, he was never violent to anyone. There were over 6 Law Enforcement Officers from 4 different jurisdictions this man encountered before he hit just below Carters Bridge; 14 by the time the stolen vehicle ended up in the ditch.
Not one of them spoke or attempted to speak to Colby Wade Eppard at anytime he was on the police radio for over 2 hours. Was there an order given not to?
How is it that not one officer responded to Eppards threats, which were even being monitored by the media at this point in an effort to have a peaceful result to this situation?
Did Eppard have a cell phone with him and have the records been checked?
Did he call anyone, like Amber Rogers, his off-again girlfriend of 3 years? His brother Courtney or any of his friends?
In the preliminary release by the Virginia State Police, it stated Eppard returned to his crashed 2006 Ford Ranger truck prior to stealing the unmarked Green Cty car. If he were attempting to have a police stand off, why would he not take the two rifles he brought with him? He left his guns behind.
It also states in the report that Eppard is seen on the video from the STOLEN police car retrieving the shotgun from the trunk and loading it, how is that possible considering all the cameras are dash mounted?
Can someone explain to me how the officers have been cleared, but the footage of both Eppards actions and their responses, the very evidence of the incident cannot be released? One of the officers involved, Caleb Marden, was fired for reasons nobody is willing to comment on.
There is only ONE way that is legal; if is part of an ONGOING investigation.
So what investigation is it an active part of?
(Editors note: If Mr. Eppard put ANYONE’s safety at risk through his actions, in the end, I say what happened to him was done to protect others, which I support. That said, as it was not so long ago a Virginia Conservation Officer was indicted for the involuntary manslaughter of a 16 year old kid whose girlfriend he was trying to grab out of his moving car, and later had the charges dismissed, I think it is worthy of conversation.)
Byrd Watching DungSmoke – January 22, 2010
James Byrd Gunn, resident or squatter at 5027 Stoney Point Rd, Barboursville, VA owned by Piedmont Manor Land Trust, was busted for possession of Marijuana with intent to deliver, and possession of a firearm as a felon.
TODAY, Mr. Big Gunn is on the Run-Run. He was indicted on both counts Monday and declared a fugitive this afternoon.
CR10000107-00 GUNN, JAMES BYRD POSSESS MARIJUANA W/INTENT 06/07/2010 Active
CR10000169-00 GUNN, JAMES BYRD FELON W/ A FIREARM 04/08/2010 Fugitive
In a SEPERATE arrest on January 23rd, 2010, Jeremy Manning– Smith 
(JMS) with the cool 144 acre pad in Keswick, also indicted on 4/5/2010 , may turn to the fivefold plan to help him out. JMS keeps a cool $55K recession-proof wad around for emergencies. Mr. Manning-Smith is a long time composter, although he never really states what he is growing.
Lisa Powers, copperworks and the fivefold planners say burn the dung. They are pals, although I doubt she is securing his bond.
Cash Runs OUT.. January 24th, 2010
Jason Todd Cash, with NO CHARGES OR WARRANTS PENDING allegedly tries to kill a cop when he is stopped in Nelson Cty in a vehicle registered to someone in Buckingham County. Remind you of anyone? He ran from the scene, leaving the vehicle and eluded police on foot.
The vehicle was impounded. He apparently is driving on a revoked license, which county has that occurred in? We will get back to J-money.
NON Garden Party…. January 25th
At approximately 10PM on the evening of January 25, Albemarle County Fire and rescue services responds to a call at the 37 acre farm of award winning gardening and horticulture experts John Sauer and his wife Cathy Clary. It is listed as a tactical incident rescue and as of March 24, 2010 is still an open incident. What was it? Who or what needed rescuing?
Mr. Sauer is the long-time gardner for Carr’s Hill, the residence of the President of UVA. Carr’s Hill was the former site of the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity until 2003 when it was moved by the city to it’s current location on Culbreth. Ms. Clary is a horticulture proffessor at UVA, and most recently taught a home landscaping course which included a field trip the afternoon of Saturday October 17, 2009.
The Sauers are also members of Piedmont Landscaping Association, which is open to anyone in the landscaping field and the Virginia Cooperative Extension.
Interestingly enough, there were several fire alarm activations on the UVA campus on this same day. Faulkner House reported a residential fire around 4:10 am.
Threes Company, Four is Combustible..Jan 26th
Sometime after 10PM, the residential fire at 3323 Sutherland Rd breaks out.
This would be the fire that is still an OPEN INCIDENT.
This fire,as you can see, was no curling-iron-left-on.
It allegedly started after the residents were asleep, although they had all apparently packed their belongings and were on a month to month lease, 2 had already moved out.
In fact, according to Peruvian vacationer and dog owner of Blanca, the pit bull that perished in the blaze, he was not aware of the fire until days after the fact because he was with friends in Peru.
Convenient, if you ask me, as he has a previous weed distribution and subsequent traffic charge in December 2009.
Meet new pup to the left. In fairness to fair-weather k9’s of America, he was only asking for dog-sitting, and not on the lease. Choose your kenneling wisely people.
The residential fire at the 3000 block of Sutherland Rd has some issues. For starters, you have the first press release regarding the possible accidental fire since as far back as 2003 before a cause determination has been made.
Additionally the release itself appears to have missed the fact that approximately 2 hours after the last apparatus departs, there is an additional call back to the property requiring 12 responders within minutes of the discovery of Morgan Harrington’s remains. They may have literally passed each other on Route 29; they definitely would have heard the dispatcher.
The former owner of the Sutherland property is buried on Anchorage Farm. A relative of the current owners has hunted the Anchorage Farm property.
The band in the image on the left is pictured practicing in the Sutherland home.
A firefighter, whose identity blinkoncrime is choosing to withhold, who fought the fire, without sleeping took an impromptu trip to New Jersey with his ..”aunt, uncle, cousin, his cousins uncle and a friend..” at 10:23PM January 27th, driving straight through without stopping and returned to North Garden by 1:45PM January 28th. Through his own facebook postings, he spends the bulk of his time when he is not volunteering for the North Garden Fire Department at his cousins; a Toco Hill address also listed as the home for a recently released registered sex offender.
Retired Greene Sheriff Takes His Own Life.. January 28
There is no evidence to suggest that William “Willie” Linwood Morris’s suicide has anything in common with the Morgan Harrington’s case directly, with the exception that there are obviously folks that knew him as well as other individuals being discussed. I have spoken with a family member, and an individual who has known him for twenty years and by those accounts Willie was in deep discomfort from the tinnicus he suffered from.
He took care of every detail prior to ending his life behind the barn on his farm in Stanardsville, VA, including withdrawing the cash for his own funeral.
Willie Morris was found by Captain Randall Snead, who was allegedly supposed to be on desk duty until the Eppard case investigation was completed. According to Commonwealth Attorney Denise Lunsford, that was not completed until February 9, 2010, almost 2 weeks later.
Cash is Busted on a Tip.. March 19
Not long out of Nelson County jail for a non-violent offense, Jason Todd Cash is being held in Albemarle County jail since his arrest around 1am the morning of Friday March 19.
One has to wonder if the tip about where Jmoney was hanging out on Secretary Sand Rd from his kin in Amherst.
Clint Cash, a registered sex offender was arrested in December on a felony parole violation and is facing some heavy time . His wife Donna, had just pled guilty to a misdemeanor the day before the tip came in regarding JT Cash’s whereabouts and received a suspended sentence.
Jason Cash was apprehended with help from Bink, the new Albemarle County k9 when the house he was staying in on Secretary Sands was raided and he attempted to stay hidden inside.
What are Coincidences… What are clues?
The aforementioned volunteer for NGVFD lives in same stretch of Secretary Sands Rd.
Yet another relative of Jason Cash, a registered Sex Offender, shares an employer with the cousin of “volunteer”, and volunteer; specializing in outdoor landscape lighting.
Colby Eppard was stopped in the area of Green Creek Rd that is a large parcel of land owned by Cash family member.
As far as making allegations in this report, there are none. The investigation of the events contained herein are entirely based on public information and witness accounts.
I have come to the conclusion that while we cannot say specifically which one of the issues discussed directly relate to the murder of Morgan Harrington, a primary or secondary scene integral to the investigation of same, and the hunt for her killer(s), but I do believe the incidents need to explored fully in a public forum.
Jason Mateos and Elizabeth Morton contributing editors to this report.
Blinkoncrime.com posters justice for morgan and juliemooly contributed research credits.
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So a poster on FM is stating that they spoke with one of the “friends” that were in attendance that night, and that they are denying it is them in the video. What is your take on that?
Hey Blink:
I’ve seen this “sighting” posted several places lately:
Upon arriving in Charlottesville late Friday night (November 6) I let my GPS guide me to Copeley St. I rode around the parking lots, slowly past the dark and gated RV/Overflow lot, and across the infamous bridge. It was eerie, but I can deal. I keyed in “lodging” on the GPS, went to the first inexpensive sounding place:
Econo Lodge University
400 Emmet Street North
Charlottesville, VA 22903
It would be about a 5-10 minute walk from John Paul Jones Arena.
Upon checking in, I couldn’t get the key to work to the first room (101), the second room had no power (202), and when the clerk handed me the key for a third try (102), she made a chilling comment. The clerk knew I was in town for the search party as I had asked for a discounted rate, she said, in reference to room 102, “…that’s the room where that girl was partyin’ with those boys that night.” When I asked “Morgan Harrington?” she said “yeah, my co-worker swears she seen that girl in that room with them boys that night…” The clerk eluded to the Morgan looking girl as being very intoxicated, falling down drunk.
I called in the tip to the tipline, and e-mailed the information as well.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6318.920
Has LE officially discredited this sighting? Maybe I’m crazy but I doubt any motel (even the Econo Lodge) would let you get a room (especially a party room) without a credit card to hold it. IF and that’s a big IF, this is factual and the workers remember the hotel room, then why don’t they pull the cc charge for the room that night and find out who the boys are that she was with?
I can recall making the decision NOT to hang out during my 20s with friends of mine because they had a tendency to get too drunk and/or high, and thus to become physically obnoxious and/or argumentative. They also did silly things like hitch-hike and leave with unknown men when they were impaired. MH’s friends may have had trouble with her because she (and possibly they) were so impaired. An argument or physical fight between them occurred due to the drugs, most likely. I can easily imagine MH feeling so disoriented and also hurt by her friends that she either left the arena voluntarily or was “lured” out by someone (or persons). The friends were not thinking straight, nor was MH. This does not make her friends terrible people. Young people on drugs/alcohol do not behave rationally. It must be obvious that concerts at big arenas such as JPJ must be magnets for sexual and violent predators who “troll” the area looking for vulnerable young women or men. The rules and rigidity of the security people at JPJ are far more to blame IMO than Morgan’s friends. I’m guessing she spoke to them (8:48) and (again, all were probably impaired) said that she could not come back in and had been offered a ride home–probably by one or more young men–and that, if she did not return at concert’s end, take her car home. Thus, there may have been nothing “accidental” about what happened to MH from the point of view of the predator, who was seeking a vulnerable young woman locked out of the JPJ arena.
Blink, you might have it … it was crowded, maybe hot, smokey, loud, and she just wanted to be out in the cool peace of the night. Just some cold fresh air and quiet… maybe starry night.
Based on your comments today Blink and the statement that there WAS an argument -taking the video/s into consideration also
Perhaps this is what happened: (speculation)
Morgan starts feeling ill- swaying -loosing balance- sick- friends rush off to the bathroom with her-
possibly while Morgan was in the bathroom she said guys, I dont feel well, I just embarrassed the hell out of myself, I smell like throw-up -I want to go home -and one (or both of her friends tried to talk her out of it, possibly argued-to no avail- Morgan wanted to go home-
So while Morgan was trying to clean up- her friends took off or said We’ll meet in the car.
Morgan finished cleaning herself up- and went looking for them- didn’t find them, where they were last standing, then went to look for them at the car- no keys no reentry no friends
or maybe they took Morgan for some air, were holding the door open for her, then… ran away, leaving Morgan outside-no reentry.(maybe this is the scuffle we heard before the kickee account)
Or maybe her friends ditched her in the BR- after learning she wanted to go home- fully expecting Morgan to give up on that idea- and instead find them in the concert hall.
Morgan was adamant about going home- thought she would find them at the car, and after talking to SS tried to reenter then, went to the rv lot, maybe she thought she could meet up with Dan and the keys there? Sports stuff is around there right?
I don’t know what happened, obviously there are some pieces to the puzzle missing-
The question is are we missing the corner pieces, that have no real bearing on the whole picture? Or are we missing the central pieces- the crucial pieces in the puzzle that will help us to connect them together to lead us to what happened to Morgan??
Only 2 of the 3 friends? What was the third one doing?Perhaps not suspicious, but of course everything is unless discounted. Did the 3rd ones boyfriend hit on Morgan? Or worse… did someone at the concert show interest in Morgan but the friend was working him first? “The Nine” were all attractive girls… but in any group of females, there is bound to be friction.. Who got aggravated at Morgan that night? After her dad fronts the $ for the tickets, they take her car, perhaps barely acknowledging or changing her plans for the day prior to the concert… I’m sorry, it is important why she left the arena. Like everyone’s saying, it speaks to her state of mind. We’ve all been in a similar situation with selfish friends that totally ignore what you want to do especially when you’re the one that made the plans. I’d be mad.
Come on, the rest of you girls, that are now the eight (doesn’t sound right, does it girls?) One of you doesn’t fit in as much as the others… and suspects what went down to make Morgan leave. Can’t ONE of you speak up to at least clear the ‘good’ friends so we stop assuming what they are capable of? “We wouldn’t have done it” Drugs? Wouldn’t have ‘pushed’ Morgan away from the group by supporting the one jerky friend defending her ‘honor’? If you can’t speak for Morgan, aren’t any other the other 7 important enough for you to speak up for? Girls, like I tell my 6yr old, it’s not what you did that made me mad, it was trying to hide it and me having to pull it out of you.
Baby steps. Why were only 2 of you looking for Morgan??
My feeling is that drugs were involved.
The friends were probably just as impaired as Morgan. This may explain why they didn’t call the police or someone for help.
Also I do feel perhaps Amy and Morgan argued. They were roommates after all — even the best of friends argue; and if they were on something it would have only added to the mix. It may be why Sarah called to see where Morgan was and try and talk her in to coming back.
Also it is possible if Morgan went to the bathroom after LOG — and someone from security was clearign the floor. Maybe Amy and Sarah went to the seats and texted Morgan and told her what was going on.
It would be nice to know who she called/texted and
what phone activity occured before the phone went dead
Actually, I give the friends too much credit. Did they just happen to walk around looking for her since they were up there to use the bathroom or get a drink… I’m looking at the situation with hindsight: Morgan needed to be found and led to safety. They had no idea there was anything to be concerned with.
So, were the 2 of them just wandering around, like ‘hey, where is she’, oh let’s go back to our seats… Remember, these are young girls. I’d wander around in my day, too, checking people out, maybe running into someone… Nothing wrong with any of that. Just say so. Or was it a ‘OMG, we gotta find her! Where is she? OMG’ And, btw, where was the other on? You know, the one that was mad at Morgan?
If that wasn’t the case, don’t sit there and stew at us old fogeys making up stories.. say something.
Blink, do you still believe Morgan knew her killer(s)….and….
If it is being considered the BG’s followed Morgan to the BR, it’s quite possible they were seated in or near Morgan’s section. MOST of the fans would have been in their seats at this point in the concert.
If we are talking questions for DG, then I would like to know more about any Chattanooga friends and relations connected to Va Tech and/or UVA, as well as who attended the show with him that night (or whether he attended with a friend from work in Princeton).
(Having said that, as much as his account doesn’t sit well with me, I am unsure in my feelings on that one; he could be a fine guy, and if he is, I hope he will understand.)
Dangerous to get me fed up, so folks better start explaining! I am tired of filtering.
Hi. I am a first time poster, long time lurker… so I would like to possibly address Skyler’s 11:19 am post, and some of the subsequent posts. I have always enjoyed the passion that Skyler brings to the forum and I think there was some confusion in Blink’s answer…
I went to the Find Morgan forum and read the thread from which Skyler’s questions seem to stem from. First, as Skyler already mentioned, it is a heersay thread, and the OP admits that it is just her opinion.
The newpaper quote in question : Amy Melvin traveled to Charlottesville to see the Metallica concert with Harrington, along with two others. Melvin said the group was separated from Harrington before the concert and did not see her during the concert.
She said Harrington did not take the automobile they had brought to Charlottesville.
I feel could be interpreted different ways… Morgan was seperated from the group by the time Metalica came on. That may be the “concert” they are reffering to. Also, Amy may have meant that Morgan did not take the car they brought to Charlottesville HOME not that she didn’t come with them at all. Since this interpretation/quote came from very early on in the investigation, if LE had interpreted it another way, I don’t think they would have concentrated on the C-ville area. Also, as blink pointed out, the article didn’t give a diret quote from Amy, just paraphrase.
Also, Blink’s reply to Sky was that she responded to the thread… which she did, in a different thread. So Blink did respond, but under the “looking for a quote/statement” thread not the “Was Moran Ever at JPJ” thread. Hope that makes sense.
FWIW, I think some of the speculation that Morgan was never there is coming from folks who are just beginning to research into Morgan’s death. A lot of posters here also held on to that theroy, until other circumstances made them “move their cheese”. Maybe some of the speculation comes from people who just need more time to look at the limited info that we have. I do not believe that there is a conspiracy and that we have all been intentionally mislead. Skyler, I hope this helps!
There is no confirmed footage of Morgan or friends in the arena. LE starts the timeline outside the arena and seems adamant that they are not concerned with anything that happened inside the arena, and the only way that makes sense is if they know she wasn’t in there.
I think it’s more likely they were tailgating in the vicinity of the arena before Metallica but during the opening acts. The “got separated” part – however anyone wants to theorize what happened there – likely happened prior to any of them entering.
I don’t get why so many are so resistant to that idea. It seems to make the most sense.
But because the friends claim they got separated from Morgan after LOG but before Metallica, everyone takes that verbatim. People keep treating the friends’ account of what happened as known facts. The only thing that does seem to have any proof behind it is that Morgan wasn’t in that arena, as evidenced by there being zero surveillance of her and LE saying they are NOT concerned with anything that happened in the arena.
Maybe they did “get separated” when Morgan “went to the bathroom”. Maybe it just wasn’t *inside the arena* where this took place.
I also don’t understand why so many are quick to say they don’t believe the friends are guilty of anything. I don’t know whether they are or aren’t. Neither does anyone else. But any discussion of that is quickly shut down. Far as anyone can tell, they aren’t on any surveillance video either. They have given varying accounts. Their whereabouts are not accounted for other than each of them saying they were with each other. Now Blink is saying there is a confirmed argument that took place. They are the last factually *known* people (as far as the public knows) Morgan was with. Unless some facts can be produced to rule them out, they aren’t out.
Post # 31 B said: “Well, in fairness, she may very well have told them she was leaving and they could take the car home, but I am not feeling that.”
If what your sources are saying is true, my response to the “friends” would have been, “Give me my keys and find your own damn way home, even if you have to HH”. That shiny girl, who appeared to love all & who had so much to give to the world that would have made a difference had she not been murdered, spent her last minutes with her friends “giving to them”, even after an argument? And what do they do? They “worry” for all of what, 5 min, 10 min, 20 min? They then go about their partying, until Dr. Harrington’s call. But even that wasn’t enough. They wait all of 2 wks (that we know of anyway)and then post pics that appear to be mocking someone HH. Well that sure explains why they kept their mouths shut & hired lawyers. And these were friends of her for how long, 8, 9, 10 yrs? (I’m sorry Dr. & Mrs. Harrington. I don’t mean to cause you anymore hurt than you’ve already experienced. All I can say is you are much better people then I could ever be).
My heart is just broken all over again for Morgan, and her family
acho says:
April 29, 2010 at 3:28 pm
RE: ACHO, referencing Jason Todd Cash and his 04/21/10 court date… The charges of MURDER (1st Degree), Assault on a Law Enforcement Officer, Destruction of Property, Eluding Police, Driving After Being Declared a Habitual Offender and the misdemeanor road citations were all continued until 06/09/10.
Aye yih yih…an argument. Well that makes sense.
Mom, thanks for your hard work on the videos. At first when I viewed them, I wasn’t sure. I viewed some others, and then the ones that crimewriter pointed out. I distinctly recognized the pony tail, and thought, well, why didn’t anyone close to the situation just say “her hair was in a ponytail.” But then, if you follow the conventional wisdom of LE, it was likely to keep details close to the vest to vet witnesses.
Anyway, I did notice on one of the videos a scene where a young man in a white shirt had his arm draped across the shoulder of a girl that looked like Morgan, in the same area where we clearly see the girls standing. I told myself “you’re not seeing what you think you’re seeing” and moved on. Now I wonder, could the argument have stemmed from DC showing Morgan too much attention, or vice versa? He is the boyfriend of SS’s roommate/friend, IIRC? Maybe the girls blamed Morgan for being too friendly, even if it was the other way around. On X, anything could have happened, and there was a lot of hugging going on in those videos.
I agree that if friends withheld info about the argument, what else has been withheld? Of course, LE may know the whole story, and we’re just pizzed ’cause we’re just now finding out. But I can see M going out to cool off, bum or smoke a ciggy, create some distance to let the situation cool down. Found herself locked out, and became even more disappointed. I don’t believe she had high hopes of finding a ride to Harrisonburg, but I think she left that possibility open. I really think she fully intended to meet back up with them after the concert. JMO.
OK, so here’s where my imagination has taken me, getting ready to get shot down in flames! I must be the last person standing who feels that the newspaper lady’s sighting might have some credibility. But, I’m envisioning a scenario where Morgan met the BIB’s (maybe 4 at that point), hung out in the RV lot with them, left them, set out across the bridge. Then, they pass her on the bridge, offer to take her to a party on campus. She’s wet, cold, pizzed, says “what the heck? I just gotta be back here when the concert ends.” They end up in the room on the lawn. Maybe smoke some weed, maybe they spike her drink. I’m thinking it’s possible she passed out for several hours, and guys took advantage of her. She wakes up, freaks out, her purse and phone still in the BIB’s vehicle, or hidden from her, with battery out. They realize she can identify them, and 3 of them leave with her, sans stockings (maybe DNA on them and the guys got rid of them?), under the pretense of taking her back to her friends. Then they take her out in the country to an isolated spot…
If BIB’s have been identified by LE, maybe #4 is the one who got cold feet, didn’t participate in the attack, and has coughed up information. Meanwhile, LE’s hands are tied until DNA evidence comes back, thus the silence. It’s killing us not to know, but they know they must have concrete evidence to make an arrest. It may be many more months before they can make arrests that will hold up in court.
Just speculating, as usual.
Did I miss something? Who did Jason Todd Cash murder on 01/24/10?
I expect that J2K is on the mark in that the events within the arena led to the victim leaving same on her own volition, albeit her impaired state may have rendered her unaware of the re-entry consequences. Was the victim responsible for her impairment? I do not know, but it is entirely possible. Was a friend or stranger responsible? Perhaps, somewhat less likely, but entirely possible.
Did the friends behave in a regretable manner in hindsight? Yes, in some fashion anyway. But we have no means of knowing if the victim’s behavior and actions may have led to the separation or if the friends or both acted inappropriately as per the disagreement. It is entirely possible this tragedy began with the inapropriate behavior of any one or more of these indivduals or a combination of regretable actions that were rather insignificant AT THE TIME.
The various friends have been endlessly and viciously dragged through the swamp herein for the past many months and perhaps it is deservedly so, OR perhaps the friends’ limited public statements have been mercifully quiet in regards the victim’s behavior, actions, attitude, or indulgences. Again, I DO NOT KNOW. Maybe you do?
I DO know that the in-crowd at BOC has adopted a dictum that there will be very limited discussion of the vicitm’s responsibility, if any, in creating the situation of risk which had come to exist on the night of this awful crime. So be it, but it is my opinion that people getting too close to this crime may have impeded what contributions this forum can make. Again so be it, if I thought there was no value in this forum I would go elsewhere – instead I monitor frequently in case my limited expertise can prove useful on some rare occasion.
Joe- we actually do not disagee in this area. I do not think you would hear disagreement from Morgan’s family, or those on here that take the matter of personal security very personally.
In fact, I think it is a fair statement that I promote THE GIFT OF FEAR, and it’s best practices, highly.
Morgan Harrington is a murder victim. By some means, she was compromised to the point of going from concert-goer to prey. As a society, we need to, and are OBLIGATED to, understand how that happened so we can better protect our children, our loved ones from it happening to them. As we come from the vantage point that regardless of how her guard came down, she did not contribute to her death, it is certainly open for discussion.
Once outside and in a significantly impaired condition – confirmed by several eyewitnesses (The couple who watched her fall and found her incoherent and beligerent, the incident with the kickee whom I have always found entirely credible, the reports of her fumbling and dropping her purse, the demonstrative kicking as observed by another) – she had entered a situation with risk. . Responsibility for the victim reaching this point in time becomes immaterial however because an infinite number of scenarios play out from this point forward, but only one ends in brutal murder. The latter scenario is entirely the fault and resposibility of the murderer.
Were the friends or acquaintences involved in the violent crime(s) that followed? Unlikely. Family, friends, persons in the vicinity with strong associations to the victim would be the immediate and primary suspects until cleared by detectives. These individuals, many of which we are aware do not seem sufficiently sophisticated or sociopathic to have avoided crumbling at this point – however it is still entirely possible.
Unfortunately I believe that the most likely scenario at this point is that the victim being noticeable, demonstrative and obviously impaired, was observed by a lone, predatory sociopath, the most dangerous among us, and the victim’s condition and emotional state was contributory towards her defenses proving insufficient in avoiding the perpetrator. I suspect that the reason there has not been a focused person of interest in this case (although I may be mistaken) is the scenario whereupon the victim and perpetrator were complete strangers and had no significant prior contact.
It is my suspicions along these lines that have led me to ponder the possible connection to Cassandra Morton or other crimes of that type – and I appreciate Blink’s past words along those lines. I do hope that the limited word from LE of late does mean that they are on a trail of some sort, no longer begging for public help. We shall see.
Mary and others, thanks for your kind words [sarcasm]. The fact that I choose not to become personally involved in these cases does not mean they are not painful to me or do not keep me up at night. My manner is different from so many of you but I would hope that I am welcome here too, in limited doses anyway. Should a case arise where I am personally familiar with the victim, family or suspect I will be happy to provide you with my insight nto their character. Oherwise I will leave that to others. I believe I have contributed here – in fact I believe that from 2000 miles away I was able, with the help of a couple other posters, to describe and prioritize the three most likely entry routes to the scene of discovery and pinpoint that location within about 48-72 hours of the release of a close-up overhead shot. That is the manner in which I can and chose to contribute.
That said, I have spent many hours trying to ascertain the location of Cassandra Morton’s body – but to no avail. If one of the locals could help me out there perhaps I can derive something from that as well.
The jury may still be out on how these forums can help with solving crimes or helping victims but I hope the science types are welcome too. I think there is a potential here for a semi-anonymous community to have an occasional real impact in the solving of vicious crime as well as a sustained impact in keeping these human debris out of our communities one way or the other.
I strongly agree with you here. Keep in mind, there are many science types on here, among other assets if you will. You are a welcome contributor, and a sum of the parts, with your regularly shaped head an’ all.
Thanks as always Ms. Blink. GBU
Me in Bold..
B
DMB — good point. I have suspected X as the drug of choice that night for a long time as it would explain a lot of the post leaving the arena actions and, frankly, is a pretty common event drug in that area and that age group, but I have never seen/heard of anyone getting belligerent or argumentative on it. If there was an argument, being drunk seems like the more likely intoxicant.
TA-
“It has been painfully obvious from day one that her “friends” have been less than forthcoming. How can LE state that they are ONLY concerned with what transpired OUTSIDE of the arena?”
I agree with you on both points!
I have NEVER understood why LE only looked at what happened to Morgan AFTER she allegedly left JPJ arena and why her car, which was in the parking lot wasn’t a bigger part of the investigation.
Omitting information to me is the same a lying–especially when their dear friend was MISSING. I have said all along I think her friends hold the key to what happened to Morgan–they know something!
No way in H-E double hockey sticks is anyone ever going to convince me Morgan that would leave to hitchhike home with her OWN car in the parking lot.
Blink- Is this YOUR quote?
“For starters, 2 of the 3 friends were LOOKING FOR MORGAN inside the arena right after she went to the bathroom but BEFORE SS called her at 8:48PM. They were walking around the arena, trying to locate her so how can they say WHERE AND WHEN any one of them was captured on tape?”
How do you know that?
Why on earth would they walk around the arena looking for her–They ALL had cell phones! And we know she didn’t receive any texts or calls from her “friends” prior to the 8:48 phone call…right?
This still doesn’t explain why there’s No footage of Morgan, Sarah, Dan or Amy that night inside the arena.
Also, IIRC- VSP said they had “no evidence” she was kicked out.
Peggy
This is from a Collegiate Times article, which was originally posted by Pippi at findmorgan. I absolutely realize the media gets thing wrong — I am not focused on the language: lost contact before the concert — I am focused on the language: >> She said Harrington did not take the automobile they had brought to Charlottesville. <<<
My original question to Blink was: were there two automobiles ? This statement “could” mean Morgan did not take her car that all four rode together in to Cvlle to leave the arena because it was still parked in the parking lot when the entire concert was over — or — it could mean Morgan rode in another, separate car — it’s the “ubiquitous” (sp) “they”
reporters — and their editors, even at the college level — should know better —
if there were two cars the “group” traveled in to get to Cvlle — that info should have been released — as well as a lot more info in the beginning — this was not a murder investigation on 10-19 — at that point it was a MP case — accurate descriptions of the clothes she was wearing — including whether she had a jacket on — a pix of the type of boot she was wearing, like Blink put up — the friends whether the ones at the concert or people who saw her wear that shirt before — should have known whether it was only letters or had pictures — at that early stage the more accurate info the better
http://www.findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3313
No Sky, it was in reference to her not removing her car from JPJ.
I have one question for you dear Sky-
If you already know what has been presented by me and this site as “verified” why would you think reading that claptrap elsewhere was worthy of your consideration?
Not an accusation, I am literally shaking my head trying to understand how your comment about what you consider a BS thread elsewhere, blows up here?
B
According to LE Morgan called SS and not the other way around.
Also- the fact we don’t know HOW she ended up outside the arena still bothers me–why didn’t Sarah ask her that? Wouldn’t that be the first thing you said to her–”Hey, where are you? What the eff happened?”
If you were genuinely concerned that would be the first thing you asked (IMO).
JMHO
Peggy
How do we know there was an argument? I have never heard that before.
TIA
Peggy
I am not quite sure why posters think that Gil and I would lie to them about our daughter and her murder. Whatever posts have been made by me have been the honest answers I could give at the time. There are many parts of this case that I cannot tell you about because they are part of a criminal case. There are many parts I cannot tell you because LE will not tell us because of the sensitivity of the case and the need for information NOT to be public.
Are you frustrated, I am sure. Are we frustrated, you bet. It is our daughter that has been killed and we want answers , we want to police to acknowledge that a killer remains in charlottesville and we want JUSTICE.
Oops! A correction-
No way in H-E double hockey sticks is anyone ever going to convince me that Morgan would leave to hitchhike home with her OWN car in the parking lot.
Metallica isn’t really the type of concert to shroom or do X at–those drugs are more along the lines of the All Good Festival, Gathering of the Vibes, Further Festival, Coachella, or even Burning Man (just to name a few)…I’m certainly not saying she couldn’t have done either drug that night–it just seems unlikely to me that she would at THIS concert.
JMHO
Peggy
cosmo says:
April 29, 2010 at 2:21 pm
“this case continues to make it evident that it is the community vs. University and the University continues to win at the expense of the community.”
Well, I for one am going to chime in with you on that sentiment. One of the news stories tonight on nbc29 here in C-ville, and it’s going to be a multi-part series of stories, was “Town vs Gown” (as in ‘cap and gown’). It’s a look at UVa’s up/down relationship with the city; however, try as I might, I can’t find any evidence of the story on nbc29′s website. That’s probably because they know if they post the story online, the volume of comments on such a story would be so high, and the content so contentious, that they’d have to hire extra staff to moderate it.
If you don’t live here, and even if you do, you may not be aware of how some UVa students feel about us “townies”, and how us townies feel about some UVa students. Let’s see, there was incident of the firefighter who was stabbed (I think he died) by the UVa student, who basically got a slap on the wrist; just recently the incident of the fraternity brother who dropped dead in the frat house with not a peep out of the University about it; and also the UVa students who have protested and rallied in order to embarrass the University into pay living wages to the townies who feed, house and clean up after them. I could go on and on.
The University of Virginia is the first public university to have a billion-dollar endowment. That’s BILLION. For a PUBLIC university. The prestige level that the university maintains, as the Ivy of the Publics, as Mr. Jefferson’s university, is so high, you can’t imagine. Morgan’s death is like a brutal murder taking place in Cambridge, MA on the grounds of Harvard for this part of the southeast. UVa is not the first, nor will it ever be the last, school to put image first and foremost on their list of priorities, so I am not singling them out, but I’m not making excuses, either.
I think the JPJ, on the night of October 17, had state-of-the art electronics for viewing athletic events, and inoperative security electronics. Just my opinion. I think their hired security people were there to secure revenue, and nothing more. I don’t think that’s changed for all their hoo-ha about increased security since Morgan disappeared and was found dead. I think their police force serves to write parking tickets and rustle up loud drunks. I don’t think the University has the power to cover up evidence and keep it from Law Enforcement, but I do think they will stall, keep quiet, squelch, squirm and obfuscate about any security failures at the JPJ. And I think the hitch-hiking claims of Morgan on the Copeley Road bridge are convenient in that they placed her last-known sighting off- campus. Many townies and a few students are cynical about the University for a variety of reasons.
That said, that information is pertinent to why/who/how she got outside, which to my knowledge, is exactly what NOBODY KNOWS. Or do they?
B
Someone does.
Friends = trouble.
One more thing- While know one knows until they actually ingest the drugs how they will react (it’s a definitely a gamble). But, generally speaking X would not cause you to act irrationally. With X, you can get in to trouble if you get really dehydrated (which can lead to death). For most people– they b/c very extroverted and friendly.
Shrooms can definitely make someone irrational but that’s the exception–not the rule. Shrooms are pretty mild compared to LSD, peyote and other psychotropic drugs.
I have mentioned this before: There’s a drug called Salvia (Salvia divinorum). It’s relatively new and like X it was once legal in VA–it’s a popular and easily accessible for teenagers and college-age kids.
Ingesting it (or smoking it) can cause someone to become psychotic–it is more potent than LSD and shrooms.
My son went to a party a JMU and watched a kid smoke a joint (he thought it was just pot but it also had Salvia in it)–within minutes he was freaking out, he eventually took off all his clothes and got in a fight which resulted in him having to go to the hospital and get stitches in his arm.
It is something that can be added to a joint–people may or may not know it’s in there.
JMHO
Peggy
Oops- “While no one knows”
Sorry about all the typo’s.
It’s been a long day!
Peggy
Revision: I think the news story I referenced above was “Town and Gown”, not “Town vs Gown”. Got carried away with the adversarial aspect of the story.
Was morgan drinking beer in the arena? did WT say he say her by the beer line? would this be one of the reasons they took down the metallica pics? Morgan has been to many concerts and i just don’t buy the answer she went outside and didn’t know she couldn’t get back in. anyone who has been to a couple concerts knows you can’t get back in once you leave. i been going to concerts since 1984. its ALWAYS been the same.
GUYS-
Just in From Blinkette’s recital. I have a gazillion posts to mod, thanks for your patience.
B
Does anyone know if Morgan was taking any prescription medications? I know that anti-anxiety drugs or anti-depressive meds can have some strange effects on people. Also, one reason someone might be compelled to leave an event would be a panic attack. Have these issues been considered?
She was not.
B
MsLAL’s scenario sounds plausible to me–that Morgan left the JPJ, high or drunk and upset, crossed paths with the BIB, perhaps was offered a ride, declined, walked on, but stayed in their sight until they saw her on the bridge. Perhaps at that point, she got in voluntarily or involuntarily. She may have known one of them in a distant way and thus felt “safe.” She might have gone to the UVa campus…or not. I doubt that she intended to let her friends have the car for the whole night at that point (when they spoke on the phone, 8:48) but she might have left it open-ended. OR perhaps her friends simply refused to bring her the car key to the doors of the arena when they spoke, and they suggested that they all meet up after the concert at MH’s car–which angered MH further. Naturally, that would be something the friends would attempt to conceal from the public. Again, it seems as though none of them were sober or acting rationally. Last but certainly not least, I can tell you that the JPJ to Ivy Road area is NOT well-lit and not well-populated even on the night of a concert. It’s more or less a giant parking lot with a few roads, fields, and buildings around (including Emmett), and parking lots are one of the most dangerous places for women at any time of the day or night.
Pathetic diatribe about Dan and Gil supposedly owing anyone anything.
Pathetic diatribe about how horrible Morgan’s friends supposedly were to her.
Words can and do hurt. Please consider that no matter how much time and energy you have invested in websluething for Morgan, this gives you no right to bash her loved ones. Along with Freedom of Speech, comes a tremendous amount responsibility, some tend to forget that, some have never realized it.
baadbobby
Nobody was bashed.
Dr. H and I have been in contact about this, and he understands that it was in response to misinformation which was being cited ( in Skylers eyes) as fact, on the FM site, which btw, I had recently encouraged posters from here to check out and join if they were so inclined.
This is a dead issue for me, and for this site. I will not have energy that can be used to help others used to flame nonsense.
Respectfully,
B
Wow! After reading FM threads I’m more confused than ever.
Blink-
On FM you state that Sarah called Morgan, not the other way around.
Is LE wrong? It is on their official timeline–if you’re right you’d think they’d correct that.
Didn’t they also mention this in one of their press conferences?
TIA
They may not have known when that was stated, I dunno.
What I know, is that Sarah called Morgan, not the other way around.
B
Blink – does LE know for a fact what was said on that 8:48 phone call? Obviously phone records will show when the call was made, from what number and how long. But is anything known beyond that or are we taking SS for her word that Morgan was going to get a ride home?
I had this actual conversation today. There is no way to know what was said factually.
B
WELL>> DID MORGAN ANSWER?????? and, what time was this?
I had this actual conversation today. There is no way to know what was said factually.
B
Do we know the length of the call?
…”brief”..
Is how it was described to me.
B
mary says:
April 29, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Could one of you nice people please be so good as to clue me in to WTF is going on? Thank you kindly, lol.
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I would like to be second in line for that, please.
B
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Just when I’m too frustrated and at my wit’s end… this happens.
May I say something? I feel somewhat at fault for having posted reference to any comments made over at the FM site. But I think the tension has been building btwn the two and today they exploded. Unfortunately Dr Harrington happened to read right at the wrong time. I dont know whether it is a competative thing or what, and I too am guilty of reading at two places as well. There are some tough cookies over there that will take every opportunity to argue and it really is sooo counterproductive. Here is to good thoughts! and refocusing! on finding the truth for Morgan! Let’s let Blink continue guiding us down the road to justice. And most of all, God bless you Dr Harrington & family.
Kim, the three friends with Morgan consisted of 2 females, Amy and Sarah, and one male, Dan. Based on hypotheticals that there was an arguement between Morgan and one of the others, and they were under the influence of something (alcohol or drugs, again hypothetically) I would guess the 2 that went looking would have been one of the females, the one who was not involved in the arguement, and Dan, who as the designated driver I would hope would have not been under the influence.
Kim says: April 29, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Only 2 of the 3 friends? What was the third one doing? Perhaps not suspicious, but of course everything is unless discounted. Did the 3rd ones boyfriend hit on Morgan?
After reading a few pages of posts here (and then at findmorgan which I rarely visit) in the wee hours, I decided that surely rereading this morning would clarify, and that something significant had happened to trigger re-questioning of some misconceptions hashed through so long ago.
But rereading did not help. Skyler, the sloppy reporting on whether Morgan was in the car with SS, AM and DC was clarified long ago; I thought to everyone’s satisfaction. And, in the sad end of searches, wasn’t it clear that Morgan WAS, in fact, in the cville area?
J2K, similarly, it was clarified that SS called Morgan, not vice versa, and while that left a lot of questions about the content of that call, I was under the impression that was the “official” account.
And, awa, you must be new and some tens of thousands of posts behind, because yes, Morgan answered, and this 8:48 call is when she supposedly told Sarah that she’d find a ride home.
Ditto for the allegedly distorted descriptions of the boots and shirt. etc. etc. etc.
Did the full moon on the 28th trigger this? Pretty much everyone I know had a strange and cranky day on Wednesday.
Blink, please encourage your tech people to get back to a format that is feasibly searchable, or forward to a better one. It is hard to send peeps back to the original threads where some of these things are covered in the present format.
PLEASE let us stay away from making demands of the Harringtons, and even further away from anger at the victim or her family. It hurts; I know.
When our frustrations get high, and our memories grow perplexed, let’s all try to take a deep breath before posting.
God bless the Harringtons and you all. Peace.
I am probably wrong, but I don’t think it was good between the friends that day. I think they were all messed up and a jealousy issue came up and all hell broke loose. Maybe starting after 2pm. Scattered purse and clothes. DG’s story doesn’t sit right with some people either. I don’t think Amy and Sarah murdered her but I think they turned their backs on her on purpose. And since they’re not talking straight, that is the conclusion I draw.
FWIW –
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/92448939.html
Truck Company Charged for Allegedly Towing Illegally
Just throwing it out to see if it sticks. IIRC one of the tow companies in C’ville is affiliated in some way with a cab company. I remember that from having had my car towed when I lived downtown …
Always thinking of the (rumored) attempted abduction on Water St that Local related to us. Bothers me to no end, one reason being that it could mean we have a BG cabbie in C’ville.
Does anyone else know about an affiliation between a tow company and cab company?
RE: crimewriter says:
April 29, 2010 at 7:32 pm
…Jason Todd Cash, 36, is charged in Nelson County with attempted first-degree murder of a law enforcement officer, felonious assault on a law enforcement officer, felony eluding, felony driving as a habitual offender, reckless driving and destruction of property, records show….
He is also charged with grand larceny and vandalism in Buckingham County; with grand larceny in Amherst County; and with felony possession of a schedule I or II drug and misdemeanor resisting arrest in Albemarle County, records show….
Cash is accused of assaulting Nelson sheriff’s Sgt. S.A. Davis by ramming a vehicle into the deputy’s patrol car after a routine traffic stop in January, court records show. After the collision, the vehicle’s driver fled….
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/state_regional/article/man_arraigned_in_attempt_on_officer_during_traffic_stop/54584/
RE: Minnie Penney April 29, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Remember – It was raining and cloudy that night. No stars, no moon, and area outside JPJ was not well lit.
Olivia, great posts! Your scenario seems plausible, but a predator from inside the concert could have forced her out the exit door, and/or could have followed her outside. Also, someone inside could have offered assistance to the bathroom, but after that could have forced her out of the arena. This could have been a person with ‘official’ status, such as security or EMT, so others would not have questioned the activity. There were ambulances on standby outside, per the Albemarle County call record for medical calls. (link is on BOC somewhere)
RE:
Olivia says:
April 29, 2010 at 5:48 pm
MH’s friends may have had trouble with her because she (and possibly they) were so impaired. An argument or physical fight between them occurred due to the drugs, most likely. I can easily imagine MH feeling so disoriented and also hurt by her friends that she either left the arena voluntarily or was “lured” out by someone (or persons). The friends were not thinking straight, nor was MH. This does not make her friends terrible people. Young people on drugs/alcohol do not behave rationally. It must be obvious that concerts at big arenas such as JPJ must be magnets for sexual and violent predators who “troll” the area looking for vulnerable young women or men. The rules and rigidity of the security people at JPJ are far more to blame IMO than Morgan’s friends. I’m guessing she spoke to them (8:48) and (again, all were probably impaired) said that she could not come back in and had been offered a ride home–probably by one or more young men–and that, if she did not return at concert’s end, take her car home.
Olivia says:
April 29, 2010 at 10:38 pm
“… the JPJ to Ivy Road area is NOT well-lit and not well-populated even on the night of a concert. It’s more or less a giant parking lot with a few roads, fields, and buildings around (including Emmett), and parking lots are one of the most dangerous places for women at any time of the day or night. “ (snipped)
A few simple questions, please? I’m hoping for a few simple answers.
Why was there a change in plans of who was actually supposed to attend the concert? Why was DC made the “chosen one”, I mean the DD. Who was supposed to have gone instead, and why didn’t SHE go?
Dr. Harrington — saw your post and wanted to let you know that of course sensible people (and I am happy to think the vast majority are sensible) don’t think you have done anything other than provide accurate information to help catch morgan’s killer(s). You have to realize, and I am sure you do, that there is a segment of people on the internet who will think and say anything. I have seen posters (mostly on other sights including the FM site) suggest the Illuminati were involved, Islamic terrorists, some international spy ring, freemasons, UVA etc. It is an unfortunate fact of life that it is easy for those opinions to be put out in the public domain and given far more apparent weight than they actually have as a result. Just because one person says something ludicrous doesn’t mean that any other people believe it. Unfortunately, it takes more effort to respond to these posts, and draws more attention to them if you do, than it does just to ignore them and let them disappear into the ether.
Blink-
If an argument occurred between the friends, I think its possible that Morgan argued with one of the other girls, and went to the bathroom to remove herself from the situation and “cool off.” I know when I’m upset with someone I don’t want to be around them until I have calmed down. Maybe this is why SS called her, to see if she was ok and to find out where she was. This line of thinking could account for why Morgan left to go to the bathroom alone.