Morgan Harrington Murder: Anchorage Farm Could Yield Even More Clues
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Charlottesville, VA– In a new development in the murder investigation of Morgan Dana Harrington, blinkoncrime.com has learned that Anchorage Farm was very much a frequent party spot for local musicians.
In fact, there was a 7 Mile Sleepover exactly one week after Morgan’s disappearance from the JPJ arena that included an invitation list of over 130 guests.
Jenny Bass, the adult daughter of David and Nancy Bass, is an accomplished pianist, musician, horticulturist and artist in the Charlottesville community.
The Seven Mile Sleepover appears to have been posted prior to Morgan’s disappearance, approximately October 14, 2009.
While it is unconfirmed how many guests actually attended the event, it is clear there could have been over 100 people within a few hundred yards of Morgan’s final resting place a week after she went missing, and presumably, her death.
As Anchorage Farm is a verified crime scene in an active murder investigation, one wonders if anyone found anything they may not have realized of importance at the time.
According to her facebook, Ms. Bass was clearly disturbed by her discovery as well:
Jason Mateos and Elizabeth Morton, contributing editors to this report
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I’ve been going back reading old articles. The very first searches for Morgan were focused on the area behind the UVa track and the Davenport baseball field. I didn’t realize until seeing this article that there had been some tips pointing investigators in that direction. In looking at a map of the area, there appears to be a common drive from Lannigan around to the track and baseball field as well as Klockner stadium (soccer and lacrosse). Am I looking at that right? Could a vehicle have come from those areas to Lannigan Field parking and then on to Copeley? Conversely, could you turn into the Lannigan field lot and continue on to the track and baseball fields? I’m wondering what those new tips were that turned the police in that direction so early in the case.
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/64718837.html
October 22, 2009
Virginia State Police and UVa Police are continuing their ground search around the University of Virginia Thursday for any further clues about Morgan Harrington’s disappearance.
They’re focusing their attention on the area behind the UVa track and the Davenport baseball field. A State Police spokesperson tells the Newsplex they’ve received some new tips that caused them to search the area again Thursday.
Police say Morgan Harrington’s purse was found in a parking lot near the athletic fields, but there was no sign of a struggle in the vicinity.
http://www.virginia.edu/webmap/FUHallAndAthletic.html
As my comment about 8:30am is awaiting moderation,
please correct my typo in the title — I left out an S in unconsciousness.
Thanks Blink.
Jamas
@ George May 29, 2010 at 8:51 am and MsL May 29, 2010 at 10:03 am
There are devices that look like cameras above the traffic lights at the intersection. They are on google – just tilt the view so that you can see what is above the lights.
Does anyone know what types of camera or sensor that could be?
Anyway, they are not part of the official traffic camera system in Virginia, these are all listed on the website I mention above. These record everything, like CCTV. Are there also other cameras that only take snapshots of speeding cars?
I’m sorry, again another thought so a multiple post. The question has been raised, could Morgan have backtracked after being on the bridge? I would think it would be difficult to stay within the very same footsteps, so the dog(s) would have probably picked up the two sets of scents. Also, I just remembered something my Granddaddy always said, the mark of a good hunting dog (his were beagle rabbit dogs) was being able to tell the difference between a forward moving rabbit track and a backtrack. My grandfather is not around anymore to tell me how the dog communicated that knowledge to him, but he swore a good hunting dog never made the mistake of following a backtrack. Would that also apply to a dog trained to track the human scent?
I am open to the possibility that what I assumed to be cameras were sensors. I thought that most of the traffic lights already had the sensors built in for the emergency vehicles, but again, I may be wrong.
I am going to Charlottesville today and will photograph them at the intersection and maybe someone will know definitely what they are.
Hi Blink,
It would be wonderful to find a photo series like this from within Anchorage Farm itself. along the south fork of Hardware River.
Here is a link to two sets of photographs of the Hardware River from Hardware River Project.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hardware_river/
Set SF07 begins captioned “Edgemont Farm on Plank Road to Fork of SF 09 and SF 10 and end caption is: “Beginning of Ammonett Branch SF 10. Stream bank right.” (located south of Anchorage Farm, east of Monacan Trail Rd.)
Set SF 11 begins: “Beginning of Ammonett Branch SF 10 . Stream bank right.”
see possible cave:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hardware_river/3594455369/in/set-72157619164996511/
I am looking for more photo sets from the Hardware River Project. South Fork series. I surmise the Anchorage Farm sections would be contained in Hardware River, South Fork, Section (between 1 and 8).
March- I am holding this for a bit till I can map it if that is ok.
B
Oh no, here I am again. I promise, last for the day, soccer calls. If this works, to follow is a link to highway cameras in the Charlottesville area. I’m not a great map reader, but if this information is up-to-date, it does not appear that there are cameras at the 29(Ivy Rd)/Copeley, Massie/Copeley or the Massie/29(Emmett Street) intersections. Are there any shown that would be of interest in the Anchorage Farm area? Again, I’m hopeless at reading maps. I need my GPS woman leading me by the hand.
http://511virginia.org/Cameras.aspx?r=1
Gifter3….wow, just wow. Thank you for sharing that, I think it gives everyone here a clearer view of the history of sexually violent behavior being swept under the rug at UVa. It really is unacceptable, and the fact that “rape” and “murder” are not considered part of the honor code is unbelievable…time to add a few amendments to that dinosaur of a code.
Juliemooly…Good question, who actually said they saw Morgan HH? Double check and triple check those witnesses.
I wish a pleasant Memorial Day weekend to everyone, thanks to all the men and women who have served and are serving our country in the military.
Also, wishing the Harringtons peace and hope on this holiday, as yet another special day passes by without an answer to who is responsible for their precious daughter’s murder.
Sorry, I thought my link would be different than the one posted by anotherB. Open the link and then click LOCALITY and choose Charlottesville. It appears to me that very few, if any, cameras are actually located within Charlottesville city limits. Our privacy is well protected. Me on my soapbox just a little, in my opinion the greatest invasion of privacy is to be grabbed off a public street and heartlessly discarded in some isolated location, perhaps to never be found, leaving a heartbroken family to always wonder.
The cameras that are at the intersection of Copeley(Alderman) and 250 West (Ivy Road) only work during a ballgame where they monitor traffic, no storage of images even then. I wish we were like the british society that uses cameras everywhere.
I’m gonna launch a pre-emptive strike on what I fear will emerge as a flame war over my Culture vs Agriculture post.
My intentions with posting it were this:
Some times I get strong impressions about things. I was thinking about the reports of Morgan hitch hiking and it just struck me as an accusation that a person would make up to denigrate the supposed hitch hiker, to place blame on her, and to make themselves look like the superior person.
Possible scenario: GH and a friend or two drive by the concert, see Morgan walking and pull up beside her and offer to get her out of the rain. She’s mad, cold and wet, they look ok, so she gets in the car. They stop at the store for some smokes. Possibly, she parties with them on the lawn until the wee hours, or they drop her back at the stadium or someone’s house, or they go to a hotel and party. Who knows. Maybe they kill her, maybe they don’t. Either way, they see her story on the news and don’t want to be associated with it. Maybe they believe their vehicle is on a surveillance camera at the store, or at an atm. At any rate, they call the VSP, say she was hitch hiking, they gave her a ride to the store because they are such chivalrous gentlemen and wanted to get her out of the cold night. Maybe each one of them calls separately; one admits to giving her a ride to the store, and one just says “Oh yeah, I was in the area and saw this blonde girl in all black hitch hiking” so his friend’s story looks even more credible. Maybe they get a girlfriend to call it in. I wouldn’t do it for a guy, but somebody might.
Until this Huguely story emerged, I felt Morgan’s killer was probably a random local low-life bottom-feeder who has never been college-bound in any direction. Now I am not 100% stuck in that line of thinking. The feeling I got when I was thinking about it yesterday was that accusing someone of hitching is like making a class judgement, and I know that there is an element at U.Va. that perceives itself as of a higher class. I was talking about this whole issue with different friends of mine, some who went to Va Tech and who went to UVa, and I got a big dose of defensiveness and anger from both sides. It runs deep and seems to span generations. I felt really bad, but then realized their perceptions weren’t my fault.
My point in this is not to get people all in a tizzy, but to say don’t shoot the messenger. I went to college in North Carolina (now THERE is a rivalry to spark a hissy fit!) I am of that breed of North Carolinians who is an ABC fan (Anybody But Carolina). That’s another flame war all together.
My point is, I don’t care whether VA Tech or UVa has a better school of architecture, a prettier campus, or a higher over all student body IQ. I care about the mind and motivation of a person or multiple people who would call the police and say a young woman was hitch hiking in a day and age when no one hitch hikes, and I think there is a small subset of UVa students snobbish enough to do it, IF it is even a lie that Morgan was hitch hiking.
This also doesn’t mean I have completely ruled out the possibility that Morgan was hitch hiking. Maybe someone spiked her drink and she lost her reasoning and judging abilities. Maybe she was wet and cold and mad as hell and for a moment, didn’t care. I was thinking back to my drunkest college moments, and there was a lot of stupidity happening, but no hitch hiking. I have my doubts, but I am keeping an open mind, and that is what I am asking everyone to do.
Blink, I posted a comment last night and it hasn’t shown up- if you can’t find it, I will try to rewrite it. TIA
Happy Memorial Day weekend to all- and a big thank you to those who have served our country.
Sorry I am finishing some course work on a very macabre subject and I am back and forth, you are posted.
Happy Memorial Day to All as well-
B
To all: the cameras or sensors are on google. Just search for copeley road in google, then you will find the map. Move towards the crossing in question, zoom in and click on the map. You are now on streetview. Tilt the picture so that you can see what is above the traffic lights.
Didn’t Morgan tell her friends not to worry that she would catch a ride home – I thought I’d read that early on…maybe not….gosh, it’s been seven months….
@ juliemooly May 29, 2010 at 11:37 am
Witnesses are often biased. This doesn’t happen intentionally. We don’t remember everything we see, that would drive us mad, and we select constantly which information we store in our memory. For instance, I have just been to the supermarket, and I wouldn’t be able to describe any single person I saw there, apart from the lady at the checkout, whom I remember because I talked to her. I looked at some plants and flowers at a market stall on the high street, which I remember distinctly, but I wouldn’t be able to describe the vendor. All I recall is that it was a man wearing a gray sweat shirt. When I walked home, there was a rather scruffy looking person coming out of a Starbucks, and I suddenly thought it must have been a homeless who has been kicked out of the place. I remember exactly what he looked like, and I stayed well clear of him.
Sometimes, our intuition tells us that something is wrong, which leads us to store information in our memory. However, if this information is fragmentary, our mind can actually fill in the gaps as it were, which is commonly called interpretation.
So, yes, I believe it is possible that someone sees a wobbly young woman on a lone bridge stretching out her arm, thinks “what is she doing here” and comes to the conclusion that she must have been hitch hiking. I am not saying she wasn’t – but witness accounts are often not that precise.
There is something about the newspaper lady sighting that makes me believe she actually saw Morgan. I read on findmorgan that Duannah talked to her, and that she was able to identify the young men she saw on her own. Apparently, this sighting has not been discounted by VSP.
Thanks Mom3, In Memory of Gini, localvillegirl and jen, for your comments.
I’m relieved to see some people going back to where it all began — UVA.
Repost of the link posted by In Memory of Gini. Thank you so much for posting it.
http://www.uvavictimsofrape.com
http://www.uvavictimsofrape.com/Honor.htm
Morgan wasn’t hitch-hiking!! There, I’ve said it! (MHO)
Would you hitch hike if your car was there, on the lot and locked up? I’d break in to my car. If a coat hanger didn’t work, I might even break the window before I’d hitch hike. Was Morgan really willing to “find a ride home” when her own car was right there?
Hell No.
B
Happy Memorial Day to everyone. Once again our community band will be providing music for a local American Legion/VFW event. I will probably close the event with the playing of Taps.
To Gifter3
Thanks for sharing Liz Seccuro’s story about her horrible experience at a fraternity house in 1984. I do no ordinarly read the Huffington Post,but I took the link and printed out the story.
This is the exact type of thing that I posted about regarding Yeardley’s murder. Mothers and fathers, grandparents and uncles and aunts neeed to make a decision about taking care of their family members when they are away at school.
School administrators need to be put on notice that for students under twenty-one years of age that they WILL BE held responsible for the safety and well being of all who attend their school. After all, this is a publically funded school that should be responsible to the people. Too many times, administrators do not do the right thing morally or legally regarding events on their campuses because they are trying to “protect a reputation”.
This is a school that has a nuclear reactor on campus and scientists qualified to operate it. Unfortunately, we now know that the administrative side of the school is so morally poor that it makes me wonder about the safety of the entire town. Thomas Jefferson would be thoroughly ashamed of this behavior.
I do not believe that the AF site is a primary or even a secondary crime scene for Morgan. This was just a disposal site. I believe Morgan was taken somewhere willingly or unwillingly and held for several days and then killed because she tried to escape.
Could this have been done by some “frat boys”? Absolutely. The police need to question every member of all fraternaties associated with the university. This type of crime requires co-operation from several people. These people need to have the police scare the living hell out of them and maybe someone will break and tell the story.
Here is some basic information from the UVA site in regard to the RV parking lot. This lot is NOT part of the John Paul Jones Arena “grounds.” It is used for parking for games at the nearby football stadium and soccer field-
RV Parking – Free on a first come first served basis: walk to the stadium via Alderman Road. RV Lot opens at 8 a.m. and closes 2 hours post-game. Overnight parking is not permitted in any University parking lots.
—————————-
Blink,
In one of your earlier threads, you mentioned that the RV lot was not being used the night of the Metallica concert. I don’t remember which thread it was, but would like it if you could confirm or advise again.
TIA
It was not being used for parking for the show, but I do believe there were folks parked there, per Corrine Geller.
B
@ A Texas Grandfather May 29, 2010 at 4:08 pm
These things do in fact happen, see my comment from April 19, 2010 at 8:42 pm
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/04/11/morgan-harrington-murder-coincidences-or-clues/comment-page-16/#comment-1575573
In the case described in this post, the victim was kept alive for at least a week and was moved around in a car. They can tell from the mobile phone connections. Stranger than fiction!
Yea, Alexandra! And, if I were in a split-up with my friends, (this one sounds terminal) I would find a way ( brother, friends in the area, etc., I would find a way!) to “take MY car and let the traitors find a way home! This would be more strongly so if I were “irrational”! Me stuck outside in the cold rainy night, with “them” cozy warm in their seats? It doesn’t work that way. (MHO), and I am so mad because this is such a senseless and irreplacable loss. What did they do? (“If we would have known, we wouldn’t have done it.”) is active – not passive. (MHO) again.
I apologize for implying that Morgan was hitch-hiking – I thought that one of her friends said that Morgan told them she was going to find a ride and not to worry about her. Again, I’m sorry. I’ll still read here but I won’t post – I don’t know anything anyway – again sorry for my poor choice of words.
Thanks to Dr. Harrington for his post on the camera at Copeley and Ivy. The four cameras at Copeley and Massie are identical to the ones at Copeley and Ivy. Dr. Harrington has said they are only used for traffic flow control after a big event and the images are not recorded so it seems that we have reached an impasse as far as getting information from those cameras.
Dr. Harrington, for what it is worth, we are not giving up. Ever.
Ditto, but he knows this.
B
Minnie Penney, I don’t know what you are apologizing for. The Virginia State Police came out a few weeks after Morgan went missing and said “multiple witnesses” reported Morgan was hitch hiking. You didn’t say anything wrong. I am just questioning the motives of these witnesses, and that’s just one of the many, many things we don’t know about this case. What I am trying to get at is, maybe they weren’t really witnesses, but calling in false reports to cover their own butts. I am just speculating. A lot of people, including the Harringtons, say Morgan would never hitch-hike. But supposedly she was seen by more than one person doing just that. Don’t sweat anything you’ve posted. It’s all good.
Minnie Penney, I don’t think anyone is upset with you, or even arguing with you. I think they are yelling at the law enforcement and/or media for insisting that they KNOW that she was HITCHHIKING.
So here’s my LOUD QUESTION FOR LE: How can you KNOW that and not KNOW so much else? When HITCHHIKING would be COMPLETELY ILLOGICAL.
And, Minnie, you are right, it was reported that one of her friends said that she was going to get a ride. But it was never clear with who, to where, or that she told them not to worry.
Don’t hesitate to post. Getting us riled up over old matters might shake something loose. You never know.
Minnie Penney … NO NO NO!! I am a very hard-nosed person and very dogmatic. Sometimes I just go off, not being careful of how I ‘sound’! I do have some very strong opinions … but, frustration will cause me not to think. Sometime awhile back, Cosmo used to post alot and those post kept me balanced and on the fence (that I just fell off of). There has been MORE than one time my superior, well thought- out opinion ( tongue in cheek ) has fallen of its own weight, with people on here with far more knowledge and talent than I. So – I could be wrong again! Like I said, I know I can be stubborn and sharp. It is up to me to balance that. You are a kind and more balanced person that EVERYONE on here can tell you is much more valuable. So, if people like you don’t share your ideas and thoughts here, this case will be hard to solve. Don’t let that happen. Morgan is too important. So, please, forgive me.
Thanks for posting it Blink- I understand you are busy- Are you studying for a masters or something? I ask because of your mention of course work- If so good going. Sorry about the macabre nature of the work, but I look forward to you utilizing your knowledge to help others.
Minnie Penney- none of us can be 100% positive on much of anything in this case, unfortunately.
I myself, have always thought no, to the HH scenario, but thought Morgan may have excepted a ride from someone passing by- to me that is a very big difference- actively sticking your thumb out with the intent to HH somewhere- and saying yes, to a kind person who stops and offers you a ride, especially, someone who Morgan either knew or felt comfortable with-
In my way of thinking- it would be like a child, thinking it was safe to befriend the neighbor, they have seen their parents speak to,(Lovely Bones)or thinking it was okay to except a ride from a friend of a friend, or a well known athlete, or teacher-ect- KWIM
I believe Morgan felt safe getting into that car, but having said that, it does not mean that others can not think for themselves and simply accept Morgan was HH- for all we know, she may have been-
So please, keep posting your thoughts- if we all agreed on everything, there would be no debate, or further questioning- and that would not be helpful to Morgan or her case.
To those who asked who first stated they saw Morgan HH on the bridge- I believe the first report came from the FB site, from Maggie Voth (UVA): -
Maggie Voth(UVA) wrote
at 3:16pm on October 19th, 2009
I saw her at 930 too, she was on the bridge on alderman trying to hitchhike and was alone
Hello-
I have been oot visiting my sister. She ended up getting admitted to the hospital. Last night there was a sudden crazy storm. I was sitting in her bed trying to get caught up on my reading here, when the most unusual sound and torrential rain ocurred. The walls moved! Anyway, one tree down and a patio table off the deck into pieces, I am back home. What a babysitter I am!
Justice, I sent you an email re: the quilt!
I am glad to see everyone brainstorming on the shirt business. That is one area that has me stumped. And I mean, no one strong feeling on it oneway or another. It is just plain odd. I do feel it represents either a bright balsy type, or was placed by someone in the know-yet indirectly involved.
I have been curious over Morgan’s lack of boyfriends. I mean, not so much a steady, but there has been limited to none discussed with the exception of the one from Roanoke. I mean she was beautiful, funloving, intelligent, outdoorsy. Seems she would have them knocking the doors down. What I am getting at is, was there some dating activity we are unaware of? Someone who she would leave the show for? Maybe a yet undeveloped relationship? What about ‘good’ guy friends? I had a ton, more than girls. Like who did they see prior to the show when they weren’t exactly tailgating? Could she have tried to return to that once locked out? I still would like to nail the thing the friends did, they wished they didnt, had they ‘known’.
Just so much speculating. So what happens now with Huguely? We wait till June?
Oh and Blink-
Did you receive my answer the other night about those pictures? I had trouble posting and then wasn’t sure if you got or not. ??
Everyone have a SAFE and fun weekend!
Eloise
Oh and another thing, Does anybody know what the name of a lumber co on rt 250 would be? I looked it up, and none are listed as directly there, likely a cross rd or something. Just a tidbit I am curious about, seems to be a resurfacing topic.
And, Minnie Penne- dont go away, i enjoy your posts. I think we live near one another.
Minnie Penney,
I haven’t posted in a while, but I read here a lot.
You are not alone. Although my gut doesn’t believe that Morgan was hitchhiking, and instead was abducted where her purse was found on UVA grounds, I too took media reports of LE’s word for it that she was. Call me naive. I’m learning. Or, in other words…I’ve opened my eyes.
As for this whole class status thing. I’ve spent a lot of time with people on both sides of the tracks. And I’ve spent a whole lot of time observing people that didn’t realize they were being observed. And from these experiences I’ve concluded that wealth does not equal class. How well you treat others does. And integrity is determined by what you do when you think no one is looking. You can have all the money in the world, but if you treat others poorly or as if they are beneath you, than in my opinion, that makes you a low life bottom feeder, and not how much money you have in the market or whether or not you hitchhike. Some of these young people that hitchhike just don’t realize how evil people can be or they feel invincible. Many are just naive and not bad people. But I still don’t believe Morgan was hitchhiking. That’s my humble opinion.
I just reread my comment and I am extremely bothered by my mistake of using excepted instead of accepted- sigh- I also hate when I misuse their and there-
Please don’t worry, Minnie P., and please don’t stop posting–you have interesting stories to share.
It is confusing about the HHing, because we do not know for sure why Miss M. was on the bridge and what she was doing there. I personally do not think she was hitchhiking–it just doesn’t seem to fit with what we have learned about her. Nor can I see her leaving her vehicle in Charlottesville. I have always wondered if she had a spare car key which she carried in her billfold or purse. My dad insisted that I have extra car keys made the moment he allowed me to drive. **************
I have been reading daily, but just haven’t had much to say, I guess. I still research faithfully, and ultimately end up wondering about the connection to Anchorage Farm. The info obtained on JB was “interesting.” I particularly wonder about the Charter School at which she taught. Murray H.S. (charter also) is located very close to JB’s school, and I wonder if she ever taught there or if the students had field trips to AF. It is clear that JB did not appear to be too worried about boundaries, etc. because her facebook account was available to the public, including her students.
I am a big fan of charter schools and alternative education in general. I do wonder, though, if juvenile offenders were allowed to enroll at Murray. By the way, do we know if EH attended HS? It could be that he never graduated. Would he be allowed in public school? Because the trail seems to have grown “stale,” could one of Morgan’s killers be a juvenile? Are we dealing with a minor and an adult “helper,” thus the inconsistencies in regard to the murder and her actual placement on the farm–two profiles.
Peace to all, and especially Dr. & Mrs. Harrington
I am amazed by the work of so many good souls on this blog.
Fish, Mom 3.0, Houston Mom, Eloise, J2K, MsL, Observer and so
many others- kudos to you all. I really enjoy reading your posts.
After diligently following this thread, I think Morgan’s killer acted alone
and has murdered before. The murderer is likely a convicted sexual
predator who has raped and been convicted. He is very likely on parole
and has been jailed before on rape charges. Because of his sexual deviancy
and due to his past imprisonment, he now murders at times after he rapes.
Morgan’s murder could be similar to the murder of Chelsea King by John Gardner.
She was never meant to be found. John also buried Chelsea in a similar way so as
not to be detected. Morgan was simply at the wrong place/ wrong time.
Her murderer was looking to rape that night and found Morgan or he just happened
upon Morgan and saw an opportunity to rape.
In my humble opinion, this was not a UVA student , not someone known by Morgan,
not a Facebook friend of Jenny Bass. The murderer is a predator who was somehow
familiar with AF. Morgan may have been taken, wrapped in tarp, during the day after the
murder on an ATV to the burial site by the killer. Killer may be in guise of a hunter, may
be some type of construction worker (one of few professions that accepts paroled rapists at
times) maybe road crew or similar.
I feel Pantera t-shirt may have been left early on near Morgan’s purse possibly.
Maybe shirt was found by a student/other who had no connection with Morgan’s rape/murder.
Shirt was discarded after student/other realized it may have belonged to Morgan.
Let’s consider changing course and finding all convicted rapists on parole who may have had a
connection to AF or who live/ have lived in area of AF. Killer may be REGISTERED several hours
away from AF. These criminals may do their homework in order to not be detected. They may have a plan.
I think he acted alone and he is very dangerous. Age- possibly 30-40 and I feel strongly that Morgan got into
his vehicle initially feeling no threat from “normal” looking perp.
Observer —
Thank you! Many Thanks to you as well for being the rock runner and allowing us to contribute to Morgan’s memorial.
Have a nice weekend BOC’ers….and for any Hockey fans out there LET’S GO HAWKS!
regarding the art from jb-af i havent seen it cept maybe a little in cw’s vid ,but aside from when it was done being of interest, i went to art school , i find the eastern,western ,northern magic ancient etc. mixed-culture-philopsy common,and luv the idea of morgan depicted as the goodess in an deity scuplture ,its so alive-on,astologicaly morgan is a godess (Sherlock ,her 23%leo- is a goodess degree),1600people showed up to looked for her,friends of mr harrington were searching friends of mr bass participated in the search,and imo the hermit= mr bass,the old man heeded the call, went to light(shiny girl),nature conspired.
Boy o boy, this case is heavy on my mind tonight. It is as though I can feel Morgan’s frustration mixed with my own.
I guess that is fitting for memorial day weekend. She is one of the fallen in this ungodly war.
Minnie Penney-
Honest errors, and I am not actually sure you made one, do not allow exit pass for a kind and compassionate contributor here.
I am hopeful that I built this site to accept same.
Remember my advice. Busta move at the redlight, even if there is only the car next to you.
You matter and you can make a difference.
B
I also believe that LE Should Look VERY CLOSELY at the person or people who:
1. Said Morgan was HH (I don’t believe it either. I mean it was dark, cold and she was dressed in black. Even if impaired, I don’t think ANY 20 YEAR OLD young lady would take that risk. When we are impaired we still make our judgments, whether good or bad, from experience or whatever is in our subconscious mind. I would go as far as to say that this is not something that Morgan would have thought of as an option.)
2. Found her personal items.(The purse, the phone and the t-shirt.)
Blink – “Remember my advice. Busta move at the redlight, even if there is only the car next to you.”
LOL Blink.
Minnie Penney you’re good. Plenty of people question the HH story, but it’s the official story according to VSP.
Listen to Blink, ok?!?!
d.
About UVA v. VT, I actually thought UVA looked rundown and unkempt (2003) whereas VT was pristine. That, in itself, gave me a more safe and secure feeling about VT. Although, I do remember having one very bad and overwhelming feeling that overcame me (2003 visit)when my child and I walked from one building to the next via what was a very dark tunnel-like passageway. Looking back on it now, I believe that place goes under or next to the building where the massacre took place.
But the real point here is that no University is really safe for our young men & women. Most parents try to arm their children with knowledge and skills around personal safety but still bad things happen. Even with training, there is a chance that they will fall victim to criminals that may hold grudges against what they may see as educated elitist brats or just naive victims or easy prey…as in not street-wise kids.
That is why University Administrations should take every precaution to keep its students, faculty, staff and visitors safe. It is their responsibility to protect our children and the university community… at least when they are on campus. And, to inform incoming students, faculty and staff of the risks on campus and in the surrounding neighborhoods.
Having, worked at two Virginia Universities and one in the nation’s capital, having gone to two universities (one in Northern VA and another in rural Virginia) and having a child attend an urban VA campus;I must say that the one in Washington D.C. and the one in Richmond,VA were the best at providing the most adequate orientation and knowledge around personal safety issues. One has to wonder if rural schools just think personal safety is not really a big issue for their schools. Still, at all seven of the schools that I referred to there has been some history of violent crimes. That is why it is so important for these college administrators to stop playing around with peoples safety and to start doing what it is they are paid to do.
“Katie says:
May 30, 2010 at 12:53 am
… One has to wonder if rural schools just think personal safety is not really a big issue for their schools. Still, at all seven of the schools that I referred to there has been some history of violent crimes. That is why it is so important for these college administrators to stop playing around with peoples safety and to start doing what it is they are paid to do…”
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You are so right. There has been a tendency, especially in small college communities, to operate under the assumption that “our communities/campuses are safe.” And, a university wants no more liability or responsibility for students than they are legally required to provide. Thus their policies defer to….”if you are caught doing something illegal you are subject to the state and local laws that prevail. But, they will work the “town and gown” system to 1) shelter youthful offenders and 2) protect the reputation of the institution these students attend and their parents’ money support.
But, in reference to the parental warnings, I really have to wonder to what extent parents are even aware enough to warn their children? I don’t think most are aware or do warn. Think about it, unless and until we experience or are touched by violence, how likely are we to even have that possibility on our radar? I can remember being drilled about right and wrong, but never a conversation about personal safety, and wonder if that has really changed.
“Mom3.0 says:
May 29, 2010 at 9:59 pm
I just reread my comment and I am extremely bothered by my mistake of using excepted instead of accepted- sigh- I also hate when I misuse their and there-
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Ah, Mom 3.0, it happens. Blogging on computer is so much different than “writing.” I’m 46, and do it all the time, sometimes catch it, sometimes don’t, but always chalk it off to “old age!” It does bother me, but, there’s a reason for it that has nothing to do with how literate we are, but just how the mind and fingers associate and instinctively type out things that we are used to writing/seeing in a different context. I tell myself that, anyway. But as long as we can still type and spell out complete words and sentences, we’re doing o.k.!
OK….I feel better now….thanks. It’s good to be back.
And, I did not know – or forgot – (I turn 64 soon- more likely LOL )it was someone from UVA who first mentioned the H word. Hmmmmmm…..
I am replying to “crimewriter’s” post of May 26, 2010, 11:38. This photobucket account is what I have posted to findmorgan.com. I have done a lot of research on other sites and posted what I found in various articles on findmorgan, so they could be discussed. I did catch a lot of postings by others who claimed to know him or know how he did it, etc. I’m surprised you didn’t see the citations telling where I got a lot of the postings and who wrote them, I guess you skipped that. I also post my red messages there. I post a lot of things as images on findmorgan, it is easier for me. I guess this means I should make it private, since obviously it is hard for some people to follow it all. Thank you Blink, for explaining what it was, you were correct. You can find anything I have written there on findmorgan.com. I am local to Charlottesville and my red messages, while read on photobucket may look nutty, really have a purpose and I do hope they may be useful. And I’m not a “he.” Take care, everybody, and keep on sleuthing.
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Minnie Penney, Maybe I missed your post, but the very short one I read yesterday where you referred to the conversation Morgan supposedly had with one of her female companions inside the arena did not give me the impression you were saying that you thought she was hitchhiking. Even if you do believe she was, IMO, that’s your theory and you are most certainly entitled to say what you think. Truthfully, no one posting on this site knows with a certainty whether or not she was hitchhiking. It’s all just gut feeling by most posters that a sensible 20 year old woman would not do something that dangerous. We can all claim to know what this young woman would have done on October 17th after being shut out of the arena, but in truth, we do not know anything about her other than that she was a very pretty young woman who should have had a long, promising life ahead of her, she was very deeply loved by her parents, she went to a concert, disappeared from a parking lot and was discovered dead months later in an isolated field. I have not read anything that leads me to believe that anyone posting here has any real insight into Morgan’s thought processes on October 17th. I can think she was hitchhiking, Fish can think she was not, but until the bad guy is caught, what real difference does it make? Would anyone posting here think less of her or be less concerned that the bad guy be caught if LE has multiple witnesses, in no way connected to each other, who saw her on that bridge with her thumb out? When an arrest is made, that is when witnesses who saw her, if indeed there are such witnesses, will tell their story in a court of law, under oath. I don’t know the law in Virginia, but I’m guessing that murder, if it is proven that her death was murder and not an accident of some type, carries a much more severe sentence (death penalty?) if kidnapping can also be proven. You, Minnie-Penney, know as much truth as any of the rest of us. Until there is an arrest and the story comes out in court, all of what is said about what happened, resulting in Morgan’s death is only opinion or speculation. With Morgan being deceased, I believe there is probably only 1 (maybe as many as 4) individual(s) who know the truth of what happened that night, the person(s) who transported her away from the arena.
I’m not going to have time to proof-read, time for church. I’m not a great proofreader anyway.
A good Memorial Day weekend to all posting here and to my veteran husband and father, and all our veterans and active duty service people.
I think Huguely may have been involved in many more rage incidents. He could have partied with friends at a home in Blandemar.
“A witness who observed the last physical confrontation between Love and Huguely email excerpt to blinkoncrime.com provided on the condition of anonymity:… It was more like he was 2 diff people. You know what I mean? Like a mood swing on crack. DON’T publish I said he was on crack. Roids for sure and there was mention of an 8 the day of the murder. It was almost like he felt like he was insulted when he was around better players than him. He loved the sport but he had no respect for anyone if they were better in the X.”
I hope Charlottesville PD is taking a fresh look at deaths ruled ‘accidental’which have occurred, including former LAX players.
Blink, not sure if you saw this news clip…scary…
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/amber-alert-virginia-surveillance-video-abduction-of-black-female-from-target-store-parking-lot/
Update: Was not an abduction.
http://wcbstv.com/local/stafford.virginia.kidnapping.2.1723402.html
-Social dynamics always amaze me. People there just seem to go on about their business. No sense of urgency or willing to get involved…