Morgan Harrington Murder: Anchorage Farm Could Yield Even More Clues
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Charlottesville, VA– In a new development in the murder investigation of Morgan Dana Harrington, blinkoncrime.com has learned that Anchorage Farm was very much a frequent party spot for local musicians.
In fact, there was a 7 Mile Sleepover exactly one week after Morgan’s disappearance from the JPJ arena that included an invitation list of over 130 guests.
Jenny Bass, the adult daughter of David and Nancy Bass, is an accomplished pianist, musician, horticulturist and artist in the Charlottesville community.
The Seven Mile Sleepover appears to have been posted prior to Morgan’s disappearance, approximately October 14, 2009.
While it is unconfirmed how many guests actually attended the event, it is clear there could have been over 100 people within a few hundred yards of Morgan’s final resting place a week after she went missing, and presumably, her death.
As Anchorage Farm is a verified crime scene in an active murder investigation, one wonders if anyone found anything they may not have realized of importance at the time.
According to her facebook, Ms. Bass was clearly disturbed by her discovery as well:
Jason Mateos and Elizabeth Morton, contributing editors to this report
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I am hoping so!
In Memory of Gini says:
June 9, 2010 at 8:06 am
Blink, any chance the preliminary hearing reschedule and the mysterious search in Albemarle have anything to do with the ongoing, unresolved, pending arrest, case of Morgan Harrington?
Depends who you ask. Seriously.
B
Eloise says:
June 9, 2010 at 1:11 am
RE Huguley-
I am wondering if the prosecution wants to keep their case in chief to themselves until discovery needs to be shared. Primarily if they wish to prove premeditation versus accident/crime of passion. Could the unknown search pertain to the home of the couch he supposedly rested on until LE arrived to question him?
Just trying to come up with a less cynical reason for the sealing. (?)
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One likely, non-cynical reason is that the prosecutor want to try the case himself/herself and doesn’t want to make it easy for the defense to get it moved to some more favorable to hugely jurisdiction. If too much info makes its way into the media, the defense will have a pretty good argument that the local jury pool is impossibly tainted. They may have that already because of the strong feelings in the community already.
It is possible they want to prevent some other party from getting wind of what they are looking for though.
There is no way, imo, this cases meets the burden for change of venue at this point, and at this rate, ever. I am telling you there is a reason the defense is not requesting their speedy trial that works to their advantage or Huguely needs a new lawyer.
B
Fish, what you said is part of my question about SIM/Data Storage cards that I posted about last night.
“Ok, Friends are out but they could and most probably have pictures of that day and night! They all have cell phones and you mean to tell me that no one, no one had taken one picture? Even the Friends left behind in Harrisonburg? No one?”
…I am an adult and snap pics left and right on my phone for pure silliness & fond memories of a particular day or event and young people are not in the habit of doing that? HARD PILL for me to swallow….
I understand that Morgan’s phone no longer had the battery when found(that alone leads me to the idea a young person removed it knowing of GPS capabilities on the phone etc. or someone who works in the industry of computers or cellular carriers)….but I am saying the data card can hold photos and if there is not data card for whatever reason in the device- photos are stored on the device memory within the of the mobile unit automatically.
Again, I have absolutely no legal background, but – why is it so difficult to find witnesses in the GH case? I can see that they can easily get biased by the media reports, which could make a negative impression at court. However – sealing the warrants actually attracted even more media attention, which should have been fairly foreseeable right from the start.
I was actually under the impression that this case was fairly easy to prosecute. They have witnesses, presumably her blood on his clothes, her computer hidden by him, and last but not least his confession. He has a history of violence, and he once assaulted her in public. Then there are also e mails and text messages.
What is so complex about this, as this article put it?
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/article/warrants_unsealed_in_slaying_of_uva_student/57045/
Maybe it is just my simple mind… Or would a parallel investigation into an unrelated matter still be labeled part of the murder case? Let’s say, very much in hypothesis, if they came across something in his apartment, such as the address of his main drug supplier. Would this still be part of the case?
Redly, you and MsL always come up well written and polite ways to respond to difficult posts and posters…thanks for clearing things up for cosmo.
Fish, I agree. As a woman and a mom, I want to hold out that hope that Morgan was not raped. Would be one small favor. And I’m just cautious about reading things as fact, when we really need to wait for word from LE.
WRT the questions surrounding the Honorable Cheryl Higgins, the judge who sealed the Huguely warrants, and her prior professional relationship as law partner with Frances McQ. Lawrence, counsel for defendant George Huguely:
There exists no conflict of interest in this instance, implied or otherwise. To wit:
A judge is required to recuse him/herself from a case if they have a prior relationship with a party in the case (emphasis on “party in the case”); that is, a victim, witness, or defendant. An attorney is not a “party” in a case; rather, s/he is an officer of the court.
Following are the basic ground rules under which a judge would be required to recuse him/herself:
* The judge is related to a party, attorney, or spouse of either party, usually within three degrees of kinship.
* The judge is a party.
* The judge is a material witness unless pleading purporting to make the judge a party is false (determined by presiding judge, but see Substitution (law)).
* The judge has previously acted in the case in question as an attorney for a party.
* The judge prepared any legal instrument (such as a contract or will) whose validity or construction is at issue.
* An appellate judge previously handled the case as a trial judge.
* The judge has a financial interest in the outcome. This particular ground varies by jurisdiction. Some require recusal if there is any financial interest at all in the outcome, while others only require recusal if there is interest beyond a certain value.
Beyond the parameters stated above, it is not unusual for a judge to have been in private practice before moving to the bench. This is the standard/norm rather than the exception. As part of their judicial oath a judge must swear to uphold the law–and that means without prejudice, including prejudice based upon any earlier affiliations, e.g., attorneys with whom they may have practiced.
If every judge who ever practiced with a defense attorney or prosecutor were required to recuse him/herself from a case, that would call into question the very integrity and intent of the judicial system–not to mention, would grind the system to a halt.
Were there a conflict of interest in the Huguely case being heard by Judge Higgins, the issue would have been addressed at the very start by the courts, including but not limited to the Dave Chapman, the Charlottesville Commonwealth’s Attorney who is prosecuting this case.
Ok, looking at the recent arrest involving drugs recently…..
What is catching my eye is the vicinity of a lot of these to the Lawn area, which of course is where the infamous 3 AM newspaper sighting was.
06/05/2010 10:43 AM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201003343
Arrest – 7XX MCINTIRE RD, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
06/04/2010 11:13 PM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201003334
Arrest – 1XX GARRETT STREET, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/31/2010 11:15 PM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201003232
Arrest – 5XX W MAIN STREET, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/26/2010 08:00 AM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201003148
Arrest – 8XX W MAIN STREET, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/26/2010 12:02 AM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201003123
Arrest – 11XX 5TH STREET SW, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/24/2010 11:31 PM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201003088
Arrest – 5XX CHERRY AVENUE, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/22/2010 10:40 PM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201003041
Arrest – 2XX W. MAIN STREET, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/22/2010 11:43 PM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201003042
Arrest – 10XX 5TH STREET SW, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/21/2010 04:00 PM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201003008
Arrest – 1XX OAK STREET, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/17/2010 01:54 PM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201002915
Arrest – 1XX 2ND STREET NE, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/16/2010 01:51 AM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201002886
Arrest – 15XX UNIVERSITY AVENUE, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/14/2010 11:30 PM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201002865
Arrest – 8XX WEST STREET, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/14/2010 08:45 AM
WEAPON LAW OFFENSE
Case number: 201002849
Arrest – 7XX HENRY AVENUE, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/12/2010 01:00 PM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201002813
05/12/2010 09:26 PM
WEAPON LAW OFFENSE
Case number: 201002824
Arrest – 8XX AVON STREET, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/10/2010 03:50 PM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201002771
Arrest – 3XX E MAIN STREET, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/09/2010 09:30 PM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201002754
Arrest – 1XX E MAIN ST, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
05/09/2010 09:30 PM
DRUG/NARCOTIC VIOLATIONS
Case number: 201002754
Arrest – 1XX E MAIN STREET, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
Redly … i guess we will see what happens, won’t we. i have consulted civil litigation attorney(s) and done the research. hardly silly … completely accurate and right on target. i have not been anti-UVA and anti-LE since the very beginning, but based on how atrocious this has been over the course of 8 months (which i have been paying attention to every day), i keep putting myself in the position of “what if this were my daughter?” once you do that … put yourself in the place of the parents who lost their only daughter, you would have the same agenda i do. find the killer(s) and except no red tape and excuses. it seems like you have had your own agenda … anything to keep the focus and the attention off of how responsible UVA and JPJA are for the safety of their constituents.
Cosmo- there is no way you consulted a civil attorney and they gave a figure of $200Million and “you have done the research”. If true cite the cases, as I have asked.
I am trying to help you navigate getting your opinion heard, but I cant allow nebulous, meritless statements like that. Help me out already.
B
what is the point of having a multi-million dollar security system if it can’t even show who is where and when? i don’t think i am being difficult here. this isn’t UVA bashing or LE bashing … this is common sense. there are protocols and procedures to follow … i get that, but when is there regulation and corrective action oversight when results are not yielded … by University police, by VSP, by FBI … when do the alarm bells sound and the light bulb(s) go on and say ” wow, something is REALLY WRONG with this picture.”
basically, i hope there is justice for Morgan and her family, and i think we all would like to prevent something like this from ever happening in Virginia or any state ever again.
The term “cold case” has been used frequently in the past few days in this forum … no doubt due to the lack of information shared by LE in recent months.
Here is a definition of “cold case” by the World of Forensic Science:
A cold case is any criminal investigation by a law enforcement agency that has not been solved for (generally) at least one year and, as a result, has been closed from further regular investigations. A cold case may be closed for various reasons such as: previously available technology was not able to adequately analyze the evidence in order to form a conclusion; witnesses were hostile and uncooperative; various time constraints hindered the investigation; the originally assigned detectives had a heavy workload; a lack of worthwhile leads stalled the case.
That’s almost 20 drug arrests in a month’s time all in the same genarl vicinity. Yep, something is going down.
Typo – meant to say general NOT genarl. LOL
Blink:
Please, can you clear up where the $200 million statement came from. Did I miss it here on your site? Seems a good deal a chat back and forth about it.
People sue people all the time.
People sue companies and corporations.
Yadda, yadda, yadda
Redly’s point about knowing a lot more about Morgan and her friends and what happened in the 6 hours…is true. A civil case will bring that. That is why cases are settled for this very reason. Settled out of court just for the fact that people may not want their business spread across town and so they think better and just settle.
Maybe UVA will.
WHO the hell cares at this point?!
Find the guys that killed Morgan Harrington!!!
Then we can talk civil litigation.
Many of us will have opinions on this.
But right now, I’m thinking that we do not need to gauge in a war of words over who will…
“Pay it Out”
but rather who will…
“Pay it Forward” and call Lt. Rader and team!!!
Thanks for listening. I just want this guy caught. All of them.
ps. ban lifted on one-a-day!
As for a liability, the only possible negligence I can see is that JPJ security didn’t call UVa PD or an ambulance when they saw Morgan acting erratically and having a bleeding cut on her chin. Maybe this was just a loophole – it is certainly possible that there are no regulations on how to handle a person requiring assistance *outside* the arena, and for some reason common sense didn’t kick in.
Frankly, anyone who has fallen on their head should be assessed by a medic, in particular if the person acts irrationally, as it was described by LE. It was very very unlikely for her to be murdered, and this was certainly not foreseeable. A more likely outcome of a person suffering from concussion who is not adequately dressed for low temperatures being stuck outside alone is that the person collapses, walks into traffic or falls into a river. Hypothermia adds to confusion. This has happened numerous times. Moreover, she could actually die of a head injury. This is why they usually keep anyone who has fallen on their head under observation for a few hours.
The necessary infrastructure to handle such events can easily be implemented. I don’t believe video surveillance would have made a difference, and I doubt the lack thereof could be interpreted as negligence. But I am convinced JPJ’s insurers will be *very* interested in the matter, regarding potential burglaries and vandalism.
anyone want to talk landscaping? we know there was one on AF the day morgan was discovered, right? i think someone asked a while ago if it was known whom the landscaper was and i don’t recall it ever being answered. does anyone know?
basically, i’m wandering if bass ever used new age lawn care. or if any of the properties adjacent to AF did. speaking of adjacent to AF, i am assuming that blandemar is the property adjacent to where MH was found. anyone want to give me a primer on that? i admit, i glossed over some posts about access points or entry, but it seems the property adjacent to AF where her remains where found may be the actual comfort zone, rather than AF itself.
thanks blinkers.
Kim is correct re data card. You can also have an extended memory card like my daughter has. But, I guess Morgan may not have used her phone to take pics, b/c she was using her camera. So that may be why it did not yield any relevent results.
As someone who has been involved in small airplane accidents and their legal ramifications for 22 years regarding manufacturer negligence, 200 million does seem high. I have, however seen 20 million offered and accepted in lieu of going to trial in a case involving four fatalities.
In the real world UVa cannot let this case, or the Yeardsley Love case, come to trial because of the publicity and because of the jury possibly awarding a very high amount to the plaintiffs. If a high amount is awarded it would most likely be reduced on appeal, but the damage to the University’s reputation will already be done. If civil cases are filed they will be quickly settled with a generous payment.
3.Kim says:
June 9, 2010 at 10:41 am
Fish, what you said is part of my question about SIM/Data Storage cards that I posted about last night.
“Ok, Friends are out but they could and most probably have pictures of that day and night! They all have cell phones and you mean to tell me that no one, no one had taken one picture? Even the Friends left behind in Harrisonburg? No one?”
…I am an adult and snap pics left and right on my phone for pure silliness & fond memories of a particular day or event and young people are not in the habit of doing that? HARD PILL for me to swallow….
I understand that Morgan’s phone no longer had the battery when found(that alone leads me to the idea a young person removed it knowing of GPS capabilities on the phone etc. or someone who works in the industry of computers or cellular carriers)….but I am saying the data card can hold photos and if there is not data card for whatever reason in the device- photos are stored on the device memory within the of the mobile unit automatically.
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And I would ASSuME that LE has checked with the phone companies to see if any pictures/text messages were SENT from Morgan or (snark) friends cell phones. These are some picture sending kids…and I would seriously be shocked if Sarah Snead didn’t send SOMETHING to SOMEONE during the concert. Having been to several concerts, I know personally that I take pics/video’s and send text/pics to friends to rub in their noses that I am at (insert great concert band here) and they are not.
@ Eloise June 9, 2010 at 1:11 am
“RE Huguley-
I am wondering if the prosecution wants to keep their case in chief to themselves until discovery needs to be shared. Primarily if they wish to prove premeditation versus accident/crime of passion. Could the unknown search pertain to the home of the couch he supposedly rested on until LE arrived to question him?”
Indeed. But who was it? It must be a friend of his. LE found him at a very early point of time, if I am not mistaken the same night.
I have the feeling they found something at this address, and this is what triggered all the secrecy.
7.Observer says:
June 9, 2010 at 11:49 am
WRT the questions surrounding the Honorable Cheryl Higgins, the judge who sealed the Huguely warrants, and her prior professional relationship as law partner with Frances McQ. Lawrence, counsel for defendant George Huguely:
There exists no conflict of interest in this instance, implied or otherwise. To wit:
A judge is required to recuse him/herself from a case if they have a prior relationship with a party in the case (emphasis on “party in the case”); that is, a victim, witness, or defendant. An attorney is not a “party” in a case; rather, s/he is an officer of the court.
Following are the basic ground rules under which a judge would be required to recuse him/herself:
* The judge is related to a party, attorney, or spouse of either party, usually within three degrees of kinship.
* The judge is a party.
* The judge is a material witness unless pleading purporting to make the judge a party is false (determined by presiding judge, but see Substitution (law)).
* The judge has previously acted in the case in question as an attorney for a party.
* The judge prepared any legal instrument (such as a contract or will) whose validity or construction is at issue.
* An appellate judge previously handled the case as a trial judge.
* The judge has a financial interest in the outcome. This particular ground varies by jurisdiction. Some require recusal if there is any financial interest at all in the outcome, while others only require recusal if there is interest beyond a certain value.
Beyond the parameters stated above, it is not unusual for a judge to have been in private practice before moving to the bench. This is the standard/norm rather than the exception. As part of their judicial oath a judge must swear to uphold the law–and that means without prejudice, including prejudice based upon any earlier affiliations, e.g., attorneys with whom they may have practiced.
If every judge who ever practiced with a defense attorney or prosecutor were required to recuse him/herself from a case, that would call into question the very integrity and intent of the judicial system–not to mention, would grind the system to a halt.
Were there a conflict of interest in the Huguely case being heard by Judge Higgins, the issue would have been addressed at the very start by the courts, including but not limited to the Dave Chapman, the Charlottesville Commonwealth’s Attorney who is prosecuting this case.
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Observer (and Blink),
There is one other slight variation of what you have mentioned. In Albemarle County, there is a shortage of judges to sit on the bench. There are, in fact, cases that are seen with local attorney’s sitting in as judges on criminal trials (not sure about civil ones).
Case in point, I recently was asked to be a witness in an alledged criminal case of assault filed on a husband by his wife (bad separation/divorce situation). The day of the trial the defendant (husband) and his witnesses showed up at court to be told that there was a conflict since the sitting judge was a senior partner in the ex-wifes attorney’s office.
Said Observer: “Beyond the parameters stated above, it is not unusual for a judge to have been in private practice before moving to the bench”.
In this case (in Albemarle County), the judge was still in private practice and was indeed a party of sorts.
Just wanted to share that twist in Albemarle…aka…Peyton Place…
Blink i did not leave i follow your post each day. I was thinking about the Camera missing. maybe Morgan took Pictures Inside the Arena wich on One of those one of the perp could have been on? Lol
The Huguely case- I understand that under the rules of law that there exists no conflict of interest.
But to me, sealing the documents and sealing the documents on sealing the documents- is rather…concerning-
I admit that I am naive to the court system, but this seems strange to me.
Judi, thank you for posting those drug related arrests.
To everyone talking about the friends- IMO-I don’t think Blink is saying she believes others should take her word/opinion as the be all end all- regarding Morgan’s friends. She stated her opinion, and said it was just that, her opinion.
I think Fish is right, the friends are still important to this case Especially, IRT, whom they may have come in contact with, what they know about Morgan and what happened that night- even if only limited to, prior to Morgan’s abduction and murder.
Duke, thanks for posting the definition of a cold case- very enlightening- I know we are all growing weary- but we have to keep the faith, and we need to keep things in prospective. Morgan was only recovered 6 mths ago.
It seems so long ago, and must be agony for The Harrington’s, but, if Duke’s def is correct- Morgan’s case is not yet cold. Not yet.
I understand that LE can not release delicate informations to not compromate the Investigation but we need more. I am sure with à Little more we can search maybe in à different way into new perspectives of the case. I always ask myself if Jenny B don’t know the perps without knowing that they were those guys. It is so unclear what the friends of Morgan are thinking what may have happend for Morgan to take the decision to go outside the Arena. They Know Morgan very well they must have an idear why she did that. Can LE not give informations out , keeping other Things secret. I don’t want this case getting cold never never Never.
I always think and pray for the Harringtons. They are lovely people and extrem intelligent. Dan and Gil Harrington i have such respect for your hearted way of thinking.
okay i will admit it … i was incorrect with regard to $200 million potential payout. there is no way under any circumstance would the state of Virginia pay out that sum to anyone for anything regardless of liability. Redly … you are so right. UVA insurance legal team would have a field day with this and the wagons would circle… a civil suit could be filed in Virginia, but there is no way they would award $200 million. It would/could be settled at less, but if the pecuniary damages determined by judges and juries WAS that high (i selected this number because the “state of the art” security system at JPJA is estimated at $191 million), and if there is not much doubt about the negligence then there could be the payment of the cap. But i believe you (Blink) and Redly are saying (please help me understand and correct me if i am wrong in what you are thinking), is that due to Virginia’s Law of Contributory Negligence – that an escalation of the civil case to Virginia Supreme Court would result in a far significant reduction of paid settlement regardless of what juries / judges declare pecuniary. okay … that makes sense. The first case below is in Virginia (there are others and i will respectfully submit them in time) and the others are national.
There are key elements applicable to every wrongful death case.
First, a plaintiff must be able to show that an actual death of their loved one occurred.
Second, the plaintiff must prove that named defendants were negligent before, during, or after a given event that led to the death of the victim.
Third, the negligent actions of the defendant make them liable, responsible, or at-fault, at least partially or in whole, for the death of the victim.
Finally, the liable and negligent actions must have directly attributed to the death of the individual, and in turn,
the damages sustained by family members and other loved ones.
Like many types of suits, there is a time frame that must be observed when filing the lawsuit or the opportunity to file the claim is forever lost.
The time frame for filing is set by state law. The clock begins to run from the time of the incident or, in some states,
from the time the party became aware of, or discovered, the injury.
When your Virginia wrongful death suit goes to court, judges and juries will decide your amount of damages based on pecuniary injury. That means they will look at how much money the family lost in terms of support, services, lost prospect of inheritance, and medical or funeral costs. Damage awards will also include interest from the date the family member died.
In cases where cruelty may have been involved, the courts might also consider punishing the person responsible for the Virginia wrongful death.
http://www.virginiawrongfuldeathlawyer.com/death_aug27_article.asp
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Mother+of+Charles+Bishop+Files+$70+Million+Wrongful+Death+Suit…-a084837984
Morgan said She will try to get à Ride Home with some Friends so if She Said that then She Left with someone She knew we have to beliebe in her judgment. We Love her and have to beliebe in her, alcohol or not.The only alternativ is someone abducting her by Force at that Point.
We all know how it is to be drunk. We may do Things that we woudn’t have done without drinking but we all know that when something happen that make us sad angry and more we all come down very quickly. We have to beliebe in her words. I have à problem believing She was hitchhing and go into à Car from someone She didn’t know. What do you think?
And what i know for sure believing in Morgan is that this perp( perps) wears à mask of normality. He is the friend of someone works with someone and act like everyone.
jealousy
anger
rage
always in my thoughts and prayers dear Morgan….show them/us the way
cosmo — Virginia’s contributory negligence law is old fashioned and shared by only 4-5 states in the country. It is fairly harsh and holds that if the plaintiff is found to be a contributing, proximate cause of her injuries, she cannot recover anything. Most states have changed to comparative negligence which simply reduces any damage amount by the percentage of fault attributed to the plaintiff or a hybrid comparative/contributory scheme which reduces the award as long as the plaintiff is not found 50% or more at fault (in which case the award goes to zero). I do think the case would be settled for PR reasons.
Here’s a thought I had after perusing FM where they reviewed sightings of Morgan during the concert. Along time ago I had voiced I wondered if Morgan may have been asked to leave due to her possible intoxicated state. I don’t believe there were many who considered that a possibility. But that said, if we believe she fell at some point, bled from the chin etc, and attempted to re-enter at several locations, we have to believe she didn’t have other plans. So, it made me think when Loni posted about Morgan having pics on her camera (which I am sure of and we may have witnessed in one of the videos) that she may have casually at the least known her killer. Why take pics of someone you haven’t met yet or know? If the perp was just outside, she wouldn’t have photographed him(them). Could a person who was attracted to her inside, had their eye on her, saw her fall, leave by whatever manner, and follow? Here I am your big savior?etc etc..
I think it’s like 2 profiles in one. (hence more than one perp,lol). I can totally feel she was picked from the lot etc, by a non concert going group. But take that w/ her being outside the arena, and actively trying to re-enter, why did that happen? B/c she was removed by some over zealous worker? Then why would any pics of the concert be relevent to the murderer? It’s just plain odd.
All of those aspects above don’t mesh, something is wrong.
I have my own personal version of what I think went down, most of it is theory based on many assumptions, that is why I am having trouble adding other ‘logic’ to the picture. You all know I have not gotten past the AF pics playing a large role on the inside story. Time will tell…
But I am curious if that is a viable consideration in anyone’s mind? (Morgan being ejected). That would certainly fuel cosmo’s and other’s civil suit! (lol)
..Sorry for the long winded post..
‘redly says at June 10, 2010 at 12:05 am
“I do think the case would be settled for PR reasons.”
Not just for PR reasons; they (UVa) don’t have a case for the defense. Want to explain to a jury of citizens, including parents of college-age kids, why the University locked out an underage female – at night – from a University-sponsored event she paid to attend? Then the plantiff’s lawyers can discuss the University’s decades of turning a blind eye to excessive drinking and sexual violence against women.
If UVa can get out of this and the Love cases for only a combined $20 million for the civil suits and no criminal charges filed I will be surprised.
I will be traveling to another state today to meet a friend at a (quite secluded) state park. The last thing my husband said to me this morning before leaving for work was “keep your cell phone in your pocket; i have your extra keys”. I knew what he meant, and I wish Morgan had known…it may have helped her get home the night of the concert. I’ve never posted here, but I’m a dedicated lurker…and I want to share with you and our Blinksters what I have learned…
If you have a cell phone and no car keys (or keys locked inside your car), and you can call the person who has your “extra set” (or your keys, in Morgan’s case), they can help you gain access to your car. Call the person who has your keys (or extra set)from your phone and have them push the button to unlock the car while you hold your cell phone to the handle of the car where the lock is. The cell phone and car locks share a frequency (so I was told) and you can send the “unlock” signal from one cell phone to another. When I heard this trick, I tried it out and it worked for my car. If you have ever locked yourself out of your car in a remote location this information could be very valuable to you. Try it out and if it works for you, please remember it. And always keep your cell phone on your person!
I hope this is a contribution to all of you who have been sharing with me. Let’s all keep the faith, hope, and clarity to help bring justice for Morgan. 2*4*1
Rosieclare, thank you for that- excelllent!
And welcome to BOC, no more lurking!
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She was seen crying in/near the bathrooms. WT saw her near the beer stand, not crying. I do not believe she was crying because she hurt her chin, no matter how painful, I just can’t see her crying for that reason. IMO she was crying because her feelings were hurt, friends (?) or maybe someone caused her to fall maliciously, pushed her off the chair she was taking pictures on. Within a short period of time, she finds herself OUTSIDE. LE stated she was not asked/forced to leave by security. We also know she kept trying to get back in. She must have told the BB players what happened to land her outside. I’m sorry, I’m getting dizzy going around and around. Is it possible that all these wrong turns were the path to no return? From the beginning. It’s either from the Metallica concert to Anchorage Farm OR from Harrisonburg 2PM to Charlottsville. Morgan’s concert going group, however many people that involved, changed the original plan after 2pm. Maybe no big deal at all, but they did say Morgan was studying in the back seat of her car, and they did change their story IIRC and they did lawyer up quickly. What a friggin mess.
It was reported that she was standing on a chair taking pictures and she fell, still holding her cup upright. Morgan seemed like a careful girl. IMO she wouldn’t try to stand on a chair with her high heels, in a crowd, with a short skirt on. Maybe the couple that reported her fall did not really see Morgan, maybe someone else fell off a chair while taking pictures, in high heels and a mini skirt. I keep thinking someone was very jealous of how beautiful she looked and they beat her up for it.
Completely OT, but what the heck is going on with the little boy missing from school in Oregon, Kyron Horman, last seen by stepmom at the school’s science fair and then she walks him part way to class and that’s the last he is seen? Yet, no amber alert? Something seems weird with this case. No appeals to the public from the parents. What do you all think of this? It feels off to me.
Not sure if this is related or not, but there have also been quite a few drug busts in Matthews County as of late-about $750,000 worth of Mary Jane off the streets in a sting operation….
Read it last night, having a problem finding it now but but WILL post the link.
Focusing on these drug busts in the last month with so many being so close to key places in Morgan’s case it seems, but I can’t find anything more on these cases other than what I listed above. I tried the county’s case site and the JADE site, I can’t find anything. The case nummbers are not valid case numbers on the county’s site and I can’t find where to even search case numbers on JADE’s site. What I would love to find is names to see if any names we’ve tossed around here are on that list. Does anyone know where I can look for this information at?
does anyone know / think if maybe there was someone smitten with Morgan from her volunteer days? did i read somewhere Morgan worked / volunteered? we have looked at the friends, the scene, the locals, i think it is worth looking into the stalker potential too. someone who could have fixed on her through her volunteering?
Question? Were cameras, and I’m asking specifically about cameras, not cell phone cameras, permitted in the JPJA for the Metallica concert, Oct. 17, 2009? Could Morgan’s little red camera have been confiscated at the door when she was admitted, if indeed, she was admitted? If this has been answered previously, please ignore. Thanks
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Does anyone know if the argument was with a friend or friends?
Cosmo … and anyone else: Does virginia have soverign immunity laws againt liability on the State, or their institutions?
I’m sure this has been discussed ad nauseum but can someone remind me what type of phone Morgan had? Was it a smart phone? Or did she at least have a data plan on the device she had? Just thinking that if I were locked out and had nothing to do and no way home, I’d be using my phone’s data plan. Anytime I’m anywhere where I have a wait (Dr’s office, airport, while my wife is shopping, etc), I’m constantly surfing the web. Surely if she did have a data plan, LE checked to see if she used it. If she was online, it could definitely help tighten up the timeline.
@Eloise–
I’ve wondered whether or not she was ejected–or perhaps given wrong information by a security guard not familiar with the arena which led to her ending up in an area of the facility outside of the ticket gates. I remember running across some posts on a Metallica fan forum where some of the concert attendees had commented on how disorganized the venue was. I can’t remember the site, but if I end up finding it I’ll post it.
My mind goes to a hockey game I was at recently at an arena which is also a major concert venue and part of a bigger complex of convention halls and such. During a break in the game a few of us wanted to try to find another group of our friends who had seats in a box in an upper level. For a moment there in an empty back stairwell we weren’t really sure where we were going. We were trying to find a quick way upstairs without having to deal with the crowded main corridors. Long story short, we ended up using this same back stairwell when we were leaving the arena, but this time with someone who knew where they were going. When we finally exited the stairwell we ended up at a spot just inside the ticket gates. There were several other doors along that stairwell–who’s to say none of them would have spit us out to somewhere outside of ticket gates/security? If security wasn’t so tight at JPJ arena, could Morgan have looked for a less-crowded bathroom and inadvertently gotten locked outside of a stairwell by taking a door that somehow led to the outside? It would be a long shot and a pretty weird glitch, and it would probably mean someone in charge forgot to lock the door she went into in the first place, wasn’t manning their post, or misdirected her. But this hypothesis (as far-fetched as it would seem, I know) could explain why someone who was familiar with no re-entry policies at concerts would have ended up outside, and perhaps how her image has alluded security cameras. And what security guard at the gate would have believed her story? Some girl walks up saying, ‘Yes, I understand the policy, but this wasn’t my fault.’ How many crazy concocted excuses do you think security guards hear on a nightly basis?
OK, I’m cringing as I push “submit” in anticipation of sounding like a crazy person throwing out improbable theories. I’ve just been trying to think about this chain of events in terms of my own experiences and what has motivated my decision-making in real, daily minute-by-minute life. It is now officially way past my bedtime…signing off…
Oh, and another thing. Was picture-taking allowed at that concert? Like, officially? Does anyone know what the policy was? Obviously other concert-goers took photos and videos, but not everyone gets busted taking pictures. I haven’t been to a concert in the U.S. for a while, but I recently went to a big-name act here in Tokyo and my friend got his camera taken away as he was snapping pics in the middle of the concert by security. We had to reclaim his camera–outside the venue, outside the ticket gates–at the end of the show. When we got his camera back, we discovered all of the pictures he had taken inside the venue had been deleted from his camera.
I guess I would imagine it would have been brought to LE’s attention had a camera that had been confiscated (especially one matching the description of Morgan’s) remained unclaimed. But I suppose a dishonest worker could have played finders keepers, then reasoned to themselves that it wouldn’t be worth the scrutiny turning it over to LE when they realized what they were holding onto, because there wouldn’t be anything left on the memory card to do LE any good anyway.
Again, another one of my crazy thoughts.