Kyron Horman Case: The Path From Suspect To Defendant Is Forged

Posted by blinkoncrimestaff | Kaine Horman,Kristian Horman,Kyron Horman,Pumala,Stephen Houze,Terri Horman,Uncategorized | Tuesday 6 July 2010 12:25 am

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Portland, OR-  The tangled web that is the life of Terri Horman continues to weave.

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In an Exclusive development to blinkoncrime.com, a Portland local, declining to be identified, provides the bombshell revelation that Terri Horman was behind the 5:16PM call to 911 last June 26th.

The object of her “threat based” call to 911 requiring officers response?

The Landscaper, in his white truck, on her property, demanding his payment for $10,000.

The same Portland source confirmed that an undercover detective, playing the role of an associate of the landscaper turned alleged assassin, was present. It was also confirmed a bulk of the incident was overheard on the police scanner.  The Truck registration and plate were called in on an open channel as well. 

What they did not count on, during the surreptitious meeting, was that Terri Horman would shut down the brief meeting and call Police; thwarting what they were hopeful would end in an arrest.

Kaine Horman had been advised to remove the couples 18 month old daughter in advance, for their safety, earlier in the day.

Upon deputies arrival, as informed by Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office about the sting, detectives were forced to tell Terri Horman she was a suspect.  Horman hired Stephen Houze, prominent Portland defense attorney by Monday June 28th.

The identity of the landscaper has been withheld as this is an ongoing investigation, but blinkoncrime.com has learned that it is contained in the sealed portion of the restraining order obtained by Kaine Horman.

blinkoncrime reader titch contributed research to this article

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777 Comments

  1. lizzy says:

    Wow, is this saying that there was a SECOND LS solicited?

    “Meanwhile, a landscaper recently hired by the Hormans said he was contacted by detectives and cooperated with the investigation. Police have confirmed a report that Terri Horman tried to pay another as yet unnamed landscaper to kill her husband, Kaine Horman, in 2009.

    http://www.katu.com/news/local/97845894.html

    Yep. I would say we have our third unsub.
    Shout out to LE- well played.
    B”

    I read about this elsewhere yesterday (or early morning), but even here I don’t read it this way. The other landscaper says he only did LANDSCAPING. And the one subsequently referred to in this article is the one that got wired to ask for the $10k. Only 2 landscapers in this article. What am I missing?

    Besides, why on earth would it make sense to keep trying to hire landscapers for this?

  2. SJC says:

    Assuming there was an affair – I don’t think LS would solely kidnap a child over their break-up, but I think he might do her a favor regarding Kyron to win her back. Perhaps pulling off the act of taking Kyron out of the school building and meeting Terri with him at the island. LS could have no real knowledge of why.
    (In my above comment, I didn’t mean to say “kidnap” Kyron from school.)
    But I can’t explain the money issue in the failed sting now.

  3. skeptic says:

    I wonder if the money was owed to him for actual lanscaping work he may have done for her. This woman is totally insane in my opinion. And DANGEROUS. I could see her doing this to get at her husband since the “hit” didn’t happen.

  4. JEN says:

    Mommystop, I’m with you. LS may have been stalking Terri – or both TH and Kaine – after something to do with their lifestyle choice went sour. And FWIW I still find it interesting that the driver of the white truck Jim Kelley purportedly saw was female. LS’ significant other?

  5. Karen says:

    22.Slvrchrm says:
    July 6, 2010 at 10:26 am
    “What about the May 9 911 call made from the Horman residence?
    Supposedly, this was a call concerning Terri and landscaper too.”

    I read some comments in this regard on another site. The comments appeared to be posted by TH, suggesting that the LS attacked her on May 9 and that Ky’s abduction is retaliation for her calling the police.

  6. HollysGmom says:

    Blink;

    I agree. What other “hit” did the LS do in order to recieve $10,000?
    No wonder she cut the “meeting” short. Was this the first time she had met/seen the “new LS”? Obviously the extra person in LS’s truck tipped her off. Every other time it had just been the two of them and then suddenly he shows up with a “friend”. Terri knew then her goose was cooked! She gets taken in for wuestioning, comes home to find that Kaine has left taking Baby K with him, then has the LS show up with a new friend. Any ideas about where Kyron was taken or put?
    That May 9th 911 call is interesting too! I can’t wait to hear the scoop on it!

  7. NantucketJen says:

    Futureman:

    I am STILL laughing. Thanks for my laugh of the day. I needed that! With the strangeness of this case, it wouldn’t surprise me a bit if PD was somehow connected.

  8. kuaitzudog says:

    can LS be arrested if he did not come forward 6 months ago, if that claim is indeed true?

  9. GriffyMom says:

    Blink, in two separate reports recently I read the phrase, with regard to Terri Horman, “was the last to see Kyron alive”. Do YOU believe law enforcement knows that little Kyron was murdered?

    I believe their official position is absent evidence to the contrary, they are operating under the assumption he is alive.

    That said, I can guarantee you the subpoenas about possible areas he is or is being held would be flying out the door.
    They are not. They know.
    B

  10. Twinkletoes says:

    10.lillor says:
    July 6, 2010 at 9:36 am
    My current thoughts…

    LS was still going thru with the MFH of Kaine but Kyron needed to go first so that TH would get all the insurance money.

    __________________
    Ahhh, I hadn’t considered the intestacy statutes. Good call. You are probably right.

  11. Twinkletoes says:

    But insurance money passes outside of probate, so whomever is named as beneficiary would get the funds, instead of the insurance money flowing to the estate. Hmmmm. I do wonder if Kaine has an estate plan.

  12. Mom3.0 says:

    If Kyron’s life is in danger because of Terri’s attempt to off Kaine- and if she loves little Kyron and needs him safe- or if he accidentally became the hitman’s target- Why wouldn’t Terri tell everything she knows inorder to find Kyron and prosecute the person who took her helpless baby?

    The minute she saw those glasses she should have spilled all, if not at the moment Kyron was found to be missing. If not then, especially once her murder for hire plot became known..

    What am I missing Blink?

    Nothing Mom 3.0, your just as baffled as the rest of us.
    B

  13. Liam says:

    LE believe this litte fella is still alive, they are doing a mighty fine job on this so far and i think this will end with 2 heroes, the officer who finds him, and Kyron himself.

  14. Gypsy DD says:

    Why am I thinking that Terri is evil enough to have changed plans about Kaine..only to hurt him more and impact others in her family as well?

    Sometimes people say to themselves I could just Kill so and so..and sometimes people say to themselves..no..better yet let’s let him suffer the rest of his life.

    Infact..many people feel suffering the rest of yuor ife and wishing you were dead is better punishment then actually killing the person.

    I see Terri in that kind of mindset. Kaine may have been too hard to target..but a 7 year old ..no problem.

    I am of the opinion that the LS guy that went to the house on 6/26 was there to collect on a finder’s fee if you will…for finding a person for Terri to act on the abduction and murder of Kyron. Terri didn’t want to meet first hand with the killer, so she hired a middleman to find the person to act as murderer and transport money between the two.

    Him showing up at the house at this point set her off big time..she knew the jig was up?

  15. Steadychick says:

    Something Ode said regarding life insurance policies triggered a thought. When my daughter got divorced, her husband was required to obtain and keep a life insurance policy on himself that would provide for their daughter if he died while she was still younger than 18. I know that Kaine had custody of Kyron, but is it possible he could have had such a policy with Kyron as the beneficiary. If so, then Ode’s thoughts start to make sense — Kyron would be kidnapped, perhaps a ransom would be paid, then Kaine would be killed (making it look like a suicide or not). With Kyron gone, I’m guessing that the insurance payout would then go the the last existed child — Kiara. And Kiara’s mother would be in control of the money.

    Also, it’s quite possible that there could be a substantial term life policy on Kaine through his work at Intel. Those large corporations generally offer the ability to purchase additional insurance pretty inexpensively.

  16. Midwest Mom says:

    I believe the landscaper is admitting his possible involvement- why else would he be demanding payment?
    B

    IDK, Possibly a john deere tractor? wonder who they (kaine and Terri) purchased it from and when?

    jen says:
    July 6, 2010 at 11:06 am

    Could the hitman have been holding Kyron for ransom or until payment is received? Sorry if this has been discussed..I can’t keep up.

  17. NancyS says:

    LOL Blink reading ahead of the class? thanks for the smile..

    This case is coming to a head I assume, thanks to the community and bloggers again…… whew…

    Where is Kyron?

  18. Missouri_Mom says:

    Boy, I’m so back and forth on this sad situation. If I’m understanding correctly, now there are 2 LS stating TH tried to hire them to kill Kaine…WTF…why are they just NOW coming to LE with this information…Why didn’t they contact LE immediately upon her request of them?

    Another thing…wouldn’t it be GREAT if Kyron has been found, hence the mother stating on TV that “Kyron is alive”…only they have him someplace safe until they can get more evidence that TH was involved? I know it sounds too good to be true, but with the way things are going in this case, nothing would surprise me.

  19. Lisa says:

    Who wants to bet that Terri threatened the landscaper with “la migra” before she made those 911 calls?

  20. Titch says:

    Blink, the only thing I can’t figure out is this: Was this guy specifically saying “I want my $10K”…or was he saying “You said you’d give me $10K, remember?” … I’m wondering if he went there all wired up (tap), tried to get Terri to say something incriminating by saying something like this – “This kids is missing & I think something’s off. I remember you tried to get me to off your hubby for $$ but I didn’t. You’d better hope you had nothing to do with this kid’s disappearance.” Blink, it’s my humble opinion that le is not inept in this case. I think they have several tidbits of info just waiting for the thread & needle to sew it all together. They surely, not a doubt in my mind, seized all phone records in their names within 48 hours of Kyron going missing. If there was truely a 911 call about that same landscaper in May, then they already had his info from the start. So, why would it take so long to come out? If 911 was seriously called in May over this same dude, then no way would the wiretapping thing work on June 26th, kwim? Doesn’t make sense. Is somebody posting all over the boards to confuse everybody and push the blame.

    After thinking about this logic now, I’m wondering if Terri used a different guy, maybe even dis this all by herself, but is attempting to turn the tables on this landscaper dude for trying to entrap her.

    Did you look at the google satellite map with those addresses? How uncanny is that? Sorta makes me wonder things…

    I’m so confused. All fingers point to Terri, & that’s where my logic takes me also, but is that just a tactic to draw out the “true” perp?

    & hey everybody, thanks, but I only relayed to Blink what I heard on the scanner & then relayed the person’s post that went into more detail, putting 2 + 2 together bc everything completely added up. All the credit goes to Blink, seriously. She followed a lead, sure, but she;s the one that was able to get the confirmation. Blink deserves the credit, as well as her online editors. I’m only here for the ride…and lovin’ every minute of it. Let’s find this lil babycakes.

  21. mag603 says:

    Man o Man…..I don’t understand why people think they can get away with these type of things. I am thinking that if the flyer had already been distributed, Terri Horman was probably beyond paranoid on Jun26th.
    Terri – Remember these wise words “Whenever you do a thing, act as if all the world were watching.” – Thomas Jefferson

  22. Kaylee says:

    We’ll have to wait and see the name of LS once he’s arrested but the name bandied about here and it’s implications had me tossing and turning all night.

    Suppose the guy isn’t just the lawn care guy, but the new best friend’s brother. Would Kyron go willingly?

    Suppose there’s a new baby and gf, as well as brothers and mom to support. Plus, this guy’s fb and myspace sites are scary! “Hail Satan”?

    Suppose this guy has been harassing Terri (May 9 911 call) for some time and finally did something to get back at her.

    Suppose this guy went to see little brother’s science project and saw an opportunity. He doesn’t return the questionaire, so email is sent to mom’s house saying: “Sometimes we have received partial responses from families, and we just want to make sure that we have all the responses from everyone in your family who was present that day.”

    Suppose this new best friend went on a family outing with Kyron and Terri took photos. Why the hell would she foster a friendship between them? To deflect attention? Try to gain control over an already out of control situation (May 9 911 call again)?

    If the first 911 call is real, then LE already knew about this guy. Could what happened have been prevented? Gulping hard here. The same self-proclaimed insider (on oregonlive.com) who tells of the 911 call also says that baby Kiara was with Terri the whole morning and there are store video tapes of them together. It’s the first answer I’ve seen to “Where was the baby?”

    Every scenario I see here is eff’n bad. ‘Course they all go away if the landscaper is someone else. I just think it’s an incredible coincidence.

  23. Twinkletoes says:

    My twinkle-sense is sensing breaking news?

  24. JEN says:

    BP is a plumber and a soon-to-be electrician. Handy guy – wonder if he does landscaping, too.

  25. heat says:

    Maybe LS was not the hit-man – maybe LS knew a hit-man. If Terri agreed to pay for killing Kaine and then backpedaled, this might not sit well with those who were expecting payment. Bad guys still wants their money.

    Maybe Kyron was taken as “collateral” for this debt – to force the payment out of Terri. But this terrible plan was not well executed and quickly began to unravel within hours — maybe Kyron is accidentally injured, maybe Kyron overhears Terri making deals, maybe Kyron recognizes an accomplice.

    Paranoia sets in. Those involved are questioning if they can trust each other. The amount of attention this has received from LE and media is unexpected and the FEAR of those involved is not so irrational. Surely, the parties involved realized in the first hours, that Kyron is observant enough and old enough to give LE plenty of details if he is released. This was a bad scheme to begin with. NOW they have a no-win situation! I think the only “cooperation” with LE will be to implicate each other, not to help find Kyron. This is horrible.

  26. LPB says:

    7.NantucketJen says:
    July 6, 2010 at 11:48 am
    Futureman:

    I am STILL laughing. Thanks for my laugh of the day. I needed that! With the strangeness of this case, it wouldn’t surprise me a bit if PD was somehow connected.
    —————————–
    who is PD?

  27. on sex abuse jail sentences says:

    BLINK- had to change my user name for obvious reasons. If you don’t want to post it I will completely understand. I just want to clear up the misconceptions about child sex abuse cases in Oregon.

    TITCH- Not sure how it works in WA but in OR (except in the metropolitan areas)It would be a damn miracle if a man guilty of sex abuse spent one day in jail. And if I am remembering correctly he Kain’s brother)didn’t deny it and there was no penetration?(NOT SAYING THAT IT WAS OK) I know it shouldn’t matter but in rural areas??lets say its like going back in time. I know of a case in a rural town in OR. involving a relative of mine who at the time was 11 he and his friends(four of them I believe) were all having sex with a nine year old girl. This little nine year old was also being raped by her father and her uncle. Father go to jail?? for a very short time. My relative didn’t go to jail until he was 14 and that was for subsequent crimes piled on. Also this relative was also having sex with a girl who was over 18. Was she charged with statutory rape? No! It doesn’t work in the reverse…maybe in Portland or Salem.

    Now in the State of Oregon, statutory rape is a two year age difference under the age of 18…supposedly regardless of willingness. That is one of the reasons the rate of sexual offenders is so high in Oregon.And probably why they also rate the levels. In another state you may be charged for having sex with a minor who was willing…18 and 16 year old lets say. But you wouldn’t have to register as a sex offender. Another relative of mine in this same small town dropped out of high school when she started dating a 27 year old (16 at the time)…With the approval of her mother….(I could go on a rant about now but I just want to make it clear that in Oregon a lot of work still needs to be done to protect the children.)

    I totally support Oregon’s tough stance but it is NOT consistent throughout the state. As for the Masons theory…could be…or it could simply be that it wasn’t forcible rape and that he cooperated…and no room in the prisons…some counties in Oregon vote down tax increases for our law enforcement. In Oregon we are hearing of criminals being released from prison early due to lack of funding…I don’t see it getting better in the future.

  28. djm says:

    If indeed the “sting” went down that way, I am disappointed. An amateur attempt at best, because if in fact she had approached him months ago as stated, to come to her door for payment at the height of the case is a bit too obvious. A better approach might have been to ask to meet with her under the muse that he was nervous and worried – for some reassurance she wasnt going to say anything. To try and establish dialogue that might lead to an admission or renewed proposition that might be used for arresst.

    Why would he expect payment? With such a high profile case and focus on Terri, why even revisit the proposition at that point and in that manner? Too obvious.

    until I hear an investigative official say something, I am not going to assume. I do hope this case is closed soon.

  29. Maggy says:

    djm, I agree….and to bring a SECOND person during the sting. If that wouldn’t get her guard up I don’t know what would. hat was THE DUMBEST move on the part of MCSO. I think that move jeopordized the integrity of this investigation because it made them look incompetent.

  30. beejay says:

    The hearing is scheduled for July 13 on the media’s motion to unseal KH’s RO. So, LE will be making some decisions this week. Or, is it simple to get that hearing rescheduled for later?

    Very.
    B

  31. minima says:

    In regards to the question about “why TH would call the police”…

    I just honestly believe that she believes her own story and thinks that if she denies everything long enough, it won’t be true and she won’t get caught. From the person that I think TH is, it doesn’t surprise me one bit that she called the cops, not at all. If anything I feel validated in the “type” of person I thought she was from day-one on facebook, writing smily faces, giving virtual kisses “muahs” to those concerned, and “liking” every comment that people gave her attention to…oh, and ignoring the comments where people offer to help.

    “Blue,” I am not dicounting that Kaine could be abusive. My best guess though, is that they were abusive to each other. However, I think people aren’t on board with is that it’s not what caused Kyron’s disparreance. TH and her sick reality did (but that last part is just my opinion). If KH was abusing her, it’s awful, maybe she felt she had no way out, but this certainly wasn’t the way.

    Yes, Jackie, it is a Coen Brothers movie, but and it’s almost funny, she’s so nuts it’s crazy, but Kyron, ARGH, how the “bleep” does a person do that/hire/stage whatever, to a baby, a baby you’ve raised for 7 years?!

    “Jane:” My impression is that KH did see the red flags and this is where we are at. Perhaps he was threatening to leave, and take the baby too. He did get Kyron, so this could have made her grasp for straws = Kyron missing. I am still on board with my first theory I posted last night, though, that I think it’s possible there was still a plan to off Kaine, and something went wrong.

    BLINK: Please answer this itty bitty question for me because my heart and mind are going to explode at any given moment. Sorry, but as you probably have figured out I am a long winded kinda gal, I’ll try to be concise.

    Hmmm, so LS involved in Kyron’s disappearance directly, maybe? Yes? No?

    Did he contract out and that’s what they are trying to get info on? Could it be that they have info on where Kyron is?
    It’s just hard to imagine that

    a) LS isn’t arrested already if they believe he is involved/responsible for Kyron.

    b) they wouldn’t have kyrons whereabouts? if LS is responsible wouldn’t he tell them where he’s at? or is he telling them TH did it and knows?

    Is it possible that they are trying to figure out what went on between TH and the 2nd LS? And 1st LS honestly doesn’t know?

    Throw me a bone blink.

    ____________________________________________________________
    26.Slvrchrm says:
    July 6, 2010 at 10:26 am
    What about the May 9 911 call made from the Horman residence?
    Supposedly, this was a call concerning Terri and landscaper too.

    OOO Who is reading ahead of the class??
    B

    ___________

    Where in the heck do you guys get this info?

  32. pamomma says:

    Many of us believed that Kyron would HAVE to have known his abductor for him to leave the school willingly and without a fight with this person…and this person has to have been known by parents and staff at skyline because he didn’t send off any Red Flags. So Blink, are you leaning to the thought that this landscaper (or the person the landscaper was working with) is a parent or was working at skyline elementary? I just can’t see a 10 year old leaving school with some guy that has been doing landscaping around the school…how does Kyron know this person so well?

  33. dee says:

    Blink & Co.

    thank you for all your hard work on this one, I am without many words, I am confused I hear she did it, she didn’t, he is alive, he isn’t….?

    my heart says this beautiful baby is gone, I want to believe he is ok but too much has happened and too much time has passed to believe that anymore.

    my question is will this chick (can’t say lady or woman for that matter) be arrested?

    This is a nightmare case, Kyron stole my heart from the beginning and my hearts bleeds for his REAL Momma :-(

    I will keep coming back for updates!

    God be with you Lil Man…

  34. SS says:

    Blink!!!
    “…subpoenas would be flying….they are not. they know….” Are you saying the police know Kyron is deceased?????!!! Please say it’s not true….please say you don’t know for sure…

    I hate to say it, but the whole LS thing showing up at Terri’s with a “friend” is completely ridiculous UNLESS LS was asking for $10,000 for a deed already done…

    OMG I wasn’t ready for this and I never will be.

  35. Judi says:

    Thinking out loud here but is it possible that the reason why Terri’s son moved away is because she removed him from the house before the sequence of events she had planned took place? Is this when she found out about so the rumored affair Kaine was having and knew she would seek revenge on him for “hurting” her? Did she feel like she raied Kyron since a baby and this is how his dad thanks her, well she’ll show him?

    Or, did she plan on “hiding” Kyron until she offed Kaine and then planned to go run off with Kyron, new baby, and her son whom she also made sure was safely else where while all this transpired?

    Just thinking outloud here.

    Beyond bizarre

  36. Muse says:

    Wonderful but heartbreaking work, Miss Clio. :) I sent out some love for Kyron over those red fireworks, too. I know he saw them and was beaming his bright smile.

    This is such an unspeakable tragedy. I still can’t get to the place that explains why Kyron got implicated in Terri’s diabolical plot. Did he hear or see something? I fear, yes. I can’t believe Kyron would have willingly left the school with a landscaper who he really didn’t know but presumably would have seen “working” around the house or school grounds and potentially saw in some questioning compromise with his Mom. I still think, based on what limited info has been released, that he left with someone he safely trusted – and that would be Terri Horman, who then headed to Sauvie Island. Yes, she knows what happened to Kyron by her own hands. I was holding out some doubts at the beginning, but no more.

  37. lyla says:

    9. griffymomsays:
    Regarding “Blinks” comments to subpoenas: Are you saying LE knows where Kyron is?

    Friends- this is what happens when we repeat out of context-

    I said of search areas. They would need subpoenas based on intel of where to locate Kyron in an active investigation where they believe he is being held against his will . That is not observed in this investigation as it would be if that is the angle of pursuit, is all I am saying.
    B

  38. dee says:

    “Judi says:
    July 6, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    Thinking out loud here but is it possible that the reason why Terri’s son moved away is because she removed him from the house before the sequence of events she had planned took place?”

    I have a sneaking suspicion, i thought that from the very beginning…but thats just me…

  39. dee says:

    “Or, did she plan on “hiding” Kyron until she offed Kaine and then planned to go run off with Kyron, new baby, and her son whom she also made sure was safely else where while all this transpired?”

    opps just read this Judi, I do not think that this chick would want a reminder of papa skipping around if she intended to harm papa…no way no way…she wanted them both gone IMHO

  40. julie says:

    There is another missing boy, age 13, missing from Vancouver, WA which is right across the river from Portland, OR.

    http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Vancouver-boy-missing-since-4th-97862444.html

  41. Brenda says:

    hmmm.. so the LS could have been traced through payments he received from TH supposedly for landscaping, despite KH having no knowledge of any yardwork done. (Perhaps TH knew this man through friends and family so was aware that he might need cash and was vulnerable to being approached as a potential hit man.)When challenged by LE the LS could have confessed that the payment not for landscaping but was the first of two intended as payment in return for killing KH. Could Terri then have backed out of the second payment if she had had second thoughts, the LS (who could be desperate for money, perhaps through obligations to family etc) without the potential second payment. Pushed to the brink he challenges TH resulting in the May 911 call, in which she accuses him of something (obviously not related to getting KH killed). Thinking that this may have scared him off she relaxes, only to discover that Kyron might be a target when his glasses were dropped off her house on June 4th, realising that he is terrible danger she drives around visiting places LS might be found. On finding nothing she goes home calls the school pretending to be enquiring about the science projects, as no red flags are raised concerning Kyron being absent, she relaxes thinking its just a threat, nevertheless she rushes after KH and little K to the bus stop to reassure herself, then finds that all her worst fears have come true.

  42. Sheila says:

    Wanted to add to the discussion on sex abuse & jail time. My stepfather raped my sister & spent 3mo in jail & then was allowed back into our family home to continue abusing. He had also offended before raping my sister. If you look on an Oregon County website & see the list of current inmates & what they are being held for, typically, 80% of men are in for some sort of sex abuse. It’s an epedmic & society tends to turn a blind eye to it….if someone does happen to get arrested for it, it’s rare that they spend any time in jail. I know of another local case that the man admitted to molesting his step daughter…& her MOM came forward, paid bail & requested that no charges be pressed & let him come back into their home. It’s time that people start protecting children.

  43. Eloise says:

    Oh my you people are jamming. So much to read. Great post Blink et al.
    So, it seems maybe terri tried her hand at many a landscaper. First one we know of went to the home on the 26th for some type of sting with LE. Then there is the LS that says he had been hired to do work at the home. Two different LS’s. So, maybe there is yet a third?
    Would love to know what she said in that 911 call-
    * First guy to kill KH
    * Second, found not to be the right type
    * Someone who was referred by another.?
    I will say I am so lost, just about everyone who writes a theory I could see as a possibility. So what happened in May? Could that be the failed Kaine plot?
    Blink, do you believe multiple people will go down for all of this?

    I do.
    B

  44. Jettx says:

    These cases are making me mental!! I have practically locked my 5 yr. old up. I lock the front gate so he can go outside and ride his bike, or go to the barn and chase chickens….or anything else kids should be able to do…and be entitled to do it safely!

    I have to say that I am in agreement with SS:

    “I hate to say it, but the whole LS thing showing up at Terri’s with a “friend” is completely ridiculous UNLESS LS was asking for $10,000 for a deed already done…

    OMG I wasn’t ready for this and I never will be.”

    I have been holding out hope that he was being held somewhere or that they knew where he was and were just waiting for the right time to get him back. It’s just the reluctance to acknowledge reality on my part.

    I do believe that TH is somewhat responsible in a “guilty by association” role. That said, I do not completely absolve KH from the same…for whatever reason, I believe there will be some connection to him.

    Blink, what you do for these cases is phenomenal….and much appreciated, “There but for the Grace of God, go I”….it could be any one of us in need someday….

  45. kuaitzudog says:

    if TM does know where Kyron is and he is still alive do you fel she is holding off telling so as to use this info as a bargaining chip?

    I think if she did she would have done that June 4, no, I personally do not believe she knows where he is now.
    B

  46. Look4Kyron says:

    Mom3.0 “The minute she saw those glasses she should have spilled all, if not at the moment Kyron was found to be missing. ”

    Did I miss something earlier in other threads that suggests Kyron’s glasses were found somewhere???

  47. Brenda says:

    The RO and divorce could be based on the LS’s accusations backed up with money that was transferred from TH’s account, as it has been pointed out here that there would need to be more than just an accusation from the LS. Also the LS being both a friend of the family (perhaps he also had relatives at the school) and familiar both with and on the school grounds as he was part of a school project he could have easily lured Kyron to his vehicle.

  48. Marci says:

    I kind of am going on the line that she inquired about the MFH but nothing ever came of it or the guy said no so she asked another person to do it. And then when all this came out about Kyron maybe he then went to the PO PO and said “hey this lady asked me to kill her husband a while back” so then they set it up like him going to her and saying “if you don’t give me some money I will sing to the police about you wanting your husband dead”

    JMO

  49. PackLeader5 says:

    Brenda, I think you’re really close on this one. I think TH was playing with the BIG KIDS when she put out the hit on Kaine. She thought she was in control, but quickly realized she wasn’t. Obviously, TH is not playing with a full deck either, but I don’t think she’s the one that took Kyron…I do believe she put the dominos in place for this…

  50. NantucketJen says:

    LPB says:
    July 6, 2010 at 12:52 pm
    7.NantucketJen says:
    July 6, 2010 at 11:48 am
    Futureman:

    I am STILL laughing. Thanks for my laugh of the day. I needed that! With the strangeness of this case, it wouldn’t surprise me a bit if PD was somehow connected.
    —————————–
    who is PD?

    Someone previously posted questions about a certain “Phyllis” character (I haven’t figured out who Phyllis is either–I need to go back a bit and reread the posts). Futureman gave me a laugh by posting a picture of Phyllis Diller and saying it’s obviously PD.
    Seriously though, I continue to pray for Kyron and hope that he is alive. I think of him often and hope that if he does make it home that he can live with people that truly love him.

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