Kyron Horman Case: Terri Horman Attorneys Call Her A Suspect
Disclaimer– exclusive original content copyright and property of Internet Network News, LLC and Blinkoncrime.com. Reproduction of this article , ANY OF IT’S Conclusions, comments or CONTENT, in whole or in part, without proper attribution and source link is strictly prohibited without prior written permission.
In court papers filed Wednesday, Bunch went further, noting that Terri Horman is a “de facto suspect” in the second-grader’s disappearance…”
Portland, OR- In a voluntary appearance in court yesterday for matters relating to the pending divorce motion by estranged husband Kaine; Terri Horman showed her face for the first time since the week after her stepson, Kyron, vanished from Skyline School.
Although Kaine Horman opted to be represented by his counsel Laura Rackner and not appear personally to protect himself emotionally, according to Rackner, Terri Horman braved the fray.
Arriving with attorneys Peter Bunch and Stephen Houze, the trio was immediately met and escorted by MCSO deputies in “the box” formation to the 5th floor courtroom where local media scurried in from behind. Within 45 minutes, Judge Meisenheimer ruled in Kaine Horman’s favor and granted his request that the issues of the mortgage-sized retainer, allegedly furnished by Terri to Houze and other distribution and custody issues will be heard in a hearing on October 7, denying her request to have the issues bifurcated.
During the proceeding, Bunch argued that his Client cannot properly litigate the divorce and custody actions currently because she is.”..unable to proceed in the ordinary course to protect her rights as to discovery, property division, support and, particularly, custody and parenting time issues.”
In fact, for the first time publicly, we learn a very important detail about the criminal investigation into Kyron Horman’s disappearance.
According to her counsel, who would certainly be “in the know”, Terri Horman has NOT been named a suspect by MCSO in Kyron’s case, but she is painfully aware she is one.
Loosely translated, a defacto suspect is an unofficially declared suspect, but for all intents and purposes is definitely the target of the investigative crosshairs.
The Microsaccade Moment
Microsaccades are tiny involuntary movements of the eye generally caused by visual fixation. The result on visual perception can cause the beholder to question if they are “really seeing what they are seeing.”
I had a few of those yesterday while analyzing footage of the day’s events in conjunction with known facts of this case.
They Are:
The MCSO guard detail dispatched at the courthouse assigned to Terri and counsel et al for a family court appearance. I have spoken with a few local family lawyers who do not wish to be identified, with a combined 26 years of practice. None have ever seen this practice in a similar matter in Multnomah County. Specifically, the deputies went inside the actual hearing and waited to escort the trio out the back.
During the hearing, there was not a syllable mentioned about the driving force behind the request for expedition of the case in the first place. The very substantive weight that was used to secure an emergency custody and restraining order, which remains uncontested to date: The Alleged Murder for Hire Plot. Why wouldn’t a family lawyer looking to abate the divorce case strike at the very merits on which the plaintiff’s arguments are based? The plaintiff in this case uses an almost one year old mfh plot allegation, which was not carried out, and no person has been declared a suspect or arrested, to control every filing to date and counsel does not refute the claims therein? What possible reason could that be?
A recent interview with Terri Horman’s son James, in which he states that his Mother cannot have a computer, cell phone, or leave her parents home in Roseburg.
Blink Analysis Editorial: Sealed Criminal Indictment OR Civil Commitment?
A Civil commitment, which would have had to been voluntary, such as a concern for Ms. Horman injuring herself, or some sort of dependency is a possibility, but a highly unlikely one considering she appeared in court yesterday.
Strictly my opinion of course, but based on my microsaccades, I think it is entirely possible that Terri Horman is under a pre-arrest indictment in the matter of the alleged murder for hire plot, or some derivative thereof.
It would certainly be unlikely that she could have been booked and granted bail without a leak, but a sealed indictment, which may or may not include a sealed arrest warrant, would follow Oregon’s propensity to use the grand jury as a form of “preliminary hearing.” In light of the fact that there is an ongoing criminal investigation into Kyron’s disappearance involving Federal, county and State investigative assets, it would be entirely appropriate.
The public would not know until such time as the indictment and any potentially attached writs are unsealed. Throw in the possibility there is always the chance that Clackamas County may be the charging county for such an offense and not Multnomah.
In which case, this is about to get very interesting. Recall MCSO chief Dan Staton saying Clackamas County Major Crimes Team is involved in the case? That would suggest at least part of a crime has been established in their jurisdiction. Rudy Sanchez resides in Clackamas County.
Clackamas County District Attorney John Foote and Criminal defense attorney Stephen Houze are well acquainted. You might say that Foote owes his very job to Houze in a way-
John Foote lost as the incumbent DA in 1996 to his own deputy district attorney Terese “Terry” Gustafson. Terry was in the middle of fighting an Oregon Bar complaint at the time which cleared her name just days before the inauguration.
The embattled DA did not take long to be the subject of more ethics violations including felony perjury charges for lying to a circuit judge about releasing the file of a juvenile that was ordered to be destroyed. Gustafson was disbarred.
Who filed the Bar complaint who also represented the accused boy who was subsequently acquitted?
Who was the prosecuting attorney for the Oregon Bar?
Stephen Houze.
Related Posts
Related Posts:
1,272 Comments
RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI
DY & KH will hold a” press event” @11am Friday.
Quote
Individual interviews with local & national media members will be conducted.
This is expected to take serveral hours.
Unquote
May God be with Desiree, Tony & Kaine.
May God be with Kyron.
Here is omitted quote link:
KOIN.com
@ LB…I agree, I think Houze is goin’ to make darn sure she doesn’t answer anything that will incriminate her in the MFH plot and/or Kyron’s disappearence.
@Satori… I usually go by KyTecRedNec, have for years, when I signed on here I thought better of it because of the nature of the blog. While your “hat” didn’t offend me, I can understand why Blink asked you to change it. Glad you did as I always look forward to posts by Satori.
@Blink… Why no ankle monitor? Is it because she’s not officially under arrest of any kind? If that’s the case how can she be “stopped” from using a computer or cell phone? That sounds more like something Houze made her do…maybe after her “sexting” episode with MC.
@All… I’ve gone back and looked at the first press conference a few times, while it’s apparent to me that TH is acting thru the whole thing, I can’t quite put a finger on what bothers me about KH during the press conference. NOTE: I am not puttin’ any blame on KH, I’m just askin’ a question, one that has bothered me from the first time I saw the press conference. MOO…MOO…MOO
Thoughts and prayers are with Kyron, his brothers and sister.
I went through a divorce, my ex wanted it, not me. The first thing I did was take off my ring and put it in a box. I was angry with him and I did not want to appear as if I still had feelings anymore because we reached a point that I knew there was no turning back. I’m pretty sure KH and TH have reached that point. I stated on the old thread that TH was advised to wear the ring because why would a woman who wanted to off her hubby still be wearing the ring? To make it appear as if she is the victim. To make it appear as if she still loves him. To say this divorce was NOT my idea. To make it appear as if she was not behind the MFH. To make it appear as if she has a heart. I also took it a step further and predicted she will plead not guilty on the MFH plot if she is indicted on that charge. I may be going out on a limb but in this case there seems to be a reason behind everything.
Satori writes: “While I am not the person who wore the hat “Dirty Christians,” I fully support your request if you feel the same about a “hat” that ridiculed Muslims OR ANY OTHER RELIGION. Perhaps you could have made that clear in your post about any future RELIGIOUS digs, but you did not. Honestly, I am from a “Christian” family and I have NEVER encountered so many evil-minded people. But my offilation and practice that is line with your sensitivity should matter not.”
With apologies to Woody Allen, what I wouldn’t give for a large sock with horse manure in it.
Love your wish list, Blink.
RE; Justalurker says:
August 27, 2010 at 2:14 am
“…I noticed that Kaine’s attorney in a statement to the judge about the Houze retainer issue, …”
———————————————
Sorry to pick, but the quote was attributed inaccurately. It was not Kaine’s attorney who said that, it was analysis made by another attorney used in the article;
“Family law attorney Laura Graser, who’s also familiar with criminal appeals, says…”
http://www.katu.com/news/101511664.html
TH may be being held as a material witness to a Federal crime – hence the security yesterday. The MFH plot would be an “attempted murder charge” depending on what evidence they have and may include state and local charges. But in regards to Kyron’s disappearance, if there is evidence that he was kidnapped by TH and held, (unlawful imprisonment) and then turned over to accomplices to an undetermined fate, (possibly murdered) or taken over state lines to an unknown location, then this would be a Federal crime. She may be working out some sort of deal as a witness as well as an accomplice to a crime. Perhaps down the road, they would drop the MFH plot charges if she gives details as to whom she associated with during the commission of a crime against Kyron. The FBI has “big fish to fry” in this ever expanding tragedy.
She didn’t take off the ring because she couldn’t……..too tight! However, I can’t get mine off either……
which party, the deputy or other?
B
I hear that Kaine & Desiree are holding a press conference today at 11am, does anyone know if that is 11am EST or 11 in Oregon?
PST
2PM EST
B
This may have been mentioned, I’m still a little behind, if she is on ‘Houze’ arrest and required to wear a monitoring device and cosidering all the LE escorting her, she may have had permission to remove it for the hearing. I could see LE doing that considering the secrecy surrounding this case.
For Kyron…you will be in our hearts forever.
http://www.katu.com/younews/96743784.html
melissab, would a lawyer be able to require a client to wear a monitoriing device and if so, who would do the monitoring other than the lawyer? She can still fire him, he works for her.
Bunch says Terri “cannot properly litigate the divorce and custody actions currently because she is . . . a de facto suspect”. What better way to emphasize that point than by showing up with her defense lawyer and SO guards? This entourage also reminds people of the supposed death threats and witch hunt.
If TH is not supposed to be on the computer, why are there so many intimate family photos of TH and kids being posted on the “Terri Horman Support Page” on Facebook? Is it possible that TH is using multiple fake facebook identities and posting her propaganda?
Funny, but can we leave religion out of our addys please, I have no interest in sidetracking our work here, and we certainly know it will.
I can tell you her Mom has a computer and is on it a fair amount, so could be her.
B
Blink,
I am assuming that bunch was hand picked by houze to represent terri in the divorce. The defacto suspect statement would have been stated purposely in court. If there is some sealed paperwork that is supposed to be hush-hush regarding terri’s involvement. Then the strategy of announcing the defacto statement in court would have been directed at who?
The perps? LE? The public?
Distinctly 2 different issues- the defacto comment was true, and it was an affront on LE because she has not been names a suspect and the GJ has been insession for weeks.
A sealed indictment, imo, would be relative to the mfh plot, which we never heard a syllable of, from any party.
B
43.MockingbirdSings says:
August 27, 2010 at 1:42 am
I have seen DHS child abuse or custody cases in Multnomah Co. where one or both parents came in chains from jail for the hearings. Each time the woman came with 1 deputy, the man with 2 – 1 sat on a bench behind and the other to the side where he could see the man’s face. Each time the deputies eyes were always on the person they were escorting.
I realize this is a different situation altogether, but guarding Terri as a suspect (arrested or otherwise) in a criminal case is not what I see when I watch their eyes.
*************************************************
I work in the forensic system and I see the same thing you are seeing, Mockingbird. Just looks like they are protecting/keeping the press away from a high profile “de facto” suspect to me. IMO.
Some other thoughts:
Re: TH still wearing her wedding ring: Her attorney *may* have told her wearing the ring would send a good message. After all, how could a woman who still proudly wears her wedding ring want her husband dead? But, one could look at it in another light as well. Maybe, by wearing the ring, TH subconsciously wanted to let Kaine know, “I am not finished with you yet.”
I also agree with the poster who said TH *may* have been involved in steroid trafficking. When Kaine described her moodiness and insomnia at or about the time she was body building, I immediately thought she may have been abusing steroids.
If this grand jury has been dismissed, could just be that their term is up or they are taking a break from the case. If I recall correctly, the grand jury met off and on over a period of at least 12 months in the Ramsey case. No doubt, we will see the grand jury continue to be involved in this investigation. As we say in my neck of the woods, it ain’t over ’til it’s over.
May beautiful Kyron soon be returned home.
amychika says:August 27, 2010 at 2:40 am
“I suppose we know there is no requirement for electronic monitoring for TH since she wore a skirt & heels to court yesterday.
That was the first thing I looked for.
B
Look at the wrists
Funny you should mention that. I have, and I concur, sleeves were on the long side.
B”
Sorry to leave the long quote but *BAM*.. Shallow me, when a reporter described the suit as ‘sharp’ the first thing that crossed my mind was ‘No it’s not; the sleeves are way too long. It must be brand new and not yet altered.’. Then I read Le Blink’s story and it all came clear.
Blink, so much is finally making sense; thank you!
@ Chickel,
So there is no confusion, it was not my “hat.” I was only commenting on the “hat” issue.
I don’t see anything unusual about the current proceedings:
1) High powered lawyer – There are multiple instances where innocent family members have been accused of being involved with a child’s disappearance (e.g., Jon Benet Ramsey) TH has been accused of a crime, MFH, in court divorce related filings. She would be stupid not to hire the best lawyer she can afford, regardless of guilt or innocence.
2) Isolation at her parents – I doubt she is “under arrest”, but may have been told she would be arrested as a material witness should she leave the area.
3) No cell phone or internet – There is nothing she can do or say at this point to help her case (unless she has information leading to Kyron’s safe return, which I unfortunately do not expect). With many “web sleuths” on her tail, any posting on facebook would be scrutinized and checked for “hidden clues” or inconsistencies.
4) Unnecessary appearance at court – TH has been accused, tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. IF she is ever tried, she may well get a change of venue; but, if not, Houze will want to be able to pick from a sympathetic, or at least open-minded jury pool.
5) Heavy security – There probably are people who would like to kill TH. Heavy security would be indicated, although I suspect a little showmanship is present also (see #4)
6) Terri is a de facto suspect – I suspect Houze wants to litigate any possible MFH/kidnapping/murder charges in criminal court only (his bailiwick), not in family court. By labeling TH as a “suspect”, it increases the likelihood of the family court issues being postponed (and reduces the likelihood of the Family Court taking away part of his fee).
As this is my first comment, I will end with a quote from an old French film, The Return of the Tall Blonde with One Brown Shoe, “No one appears more guilty than an innocent man who doesn’t know he’s being watched”. I do not believe TH is “innocent”, but I also do not believe the she and DDS are psycho lesbians doing “hits” for the Medellin cartel either.
20.mosaic says:
August 26, 2010 at 10:52 pm
“Without hesitation or reservation, Terri Horman created this situation willfully or unwillingly.” –B
What is so frustrating is that even if she created the situation unwillingly, she would have at least an inkling to what happened to her son or what might have prompted his disappearance.
So let’s say the worst case is true and some “bad guys” took Kyron because of Terri (for whatever reason). For the sake of her son, WHY did she not offer information to help find him? Even if it paints her in an unflattering light or reveals some nefarious activities on her part? Because she cares more about her own butt than her sons?
__________________________________________________
“Because she cares more about her own but than her sons?”
Obviously!
I know Dee.
Your in my thoughts and prayers today, as is your family.
B
As if my ankles weren’t already swollen, Satori’s posts are starting to give me severe gout.
@Satori… Yep I realized that about 2.5 seconds after I hit submit. Sorry!
Thoughts and prayers are with Kyron, his brothers and sister.
Blink–you said you do not think Kyron is still alive. Do you think he was killed right away, or was there a window of time (days? weeks?) when he could have been saved? Thanks!
I am going to need to respectfully defer on that question.
B
Looking forward to see Kiane and Desiree again
and enjoying this site
Thanks as usual for this place Blink
Your blog gives me looks to think about
house arrest makes sense
and it will be good for her to take down time
from electronics
and think about her life
I feel the same that she invited the vampire
into her family
and lost a beautiful child
Remember this article a few days ago, in which several legal eagles were interviewed? Defense attorney John Henry Hingson III was quoted:
“Once Kaine Horman’s lawyer includes material from law enforcement’s investigation in a court filing, you can be sure Terri Horman’s divorce attorney will argue that any police privilege to withhold criminal investigative material has been waived, and he probably will seek access to it, Hingson said. That doesn’t mean he’ll get it. A family law judge would end up the arbiter of the dispute.”
http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20100822/UPDATE/100822006/Flow-of-information-about-missing-Portland-boy-is-unusual
Houze has options.
DING DING DING We have a winner. This is E X A C T L Y the point I have been trying to make.
Rackner is openly quoted as saying her office just wants to assist LE.
Again I say, then why no mention of the allegations in the restraining order and the basis (substantive) for the fast track of the divorce/custody issue?? This is absolutely a sealed indictment/charging order situation or Houze strategy in a family law matter is going to render his client nolle prosequi, if in fact she is involved with Kyron’s disappearance. On a positive note, if this is the strategy of LE in the background of the family law matter, they had better be damn sure that she knows where Kyron is, and I for one, am not at all comfortable that she does.
You don’t get a do- over in this case.
Sadly, I am not a Scared Monkey, but I do read there everyday. A very observant monkey focused on the photo of TH getting in to the car – it appears that she may be wearing something underneath her jacket – a bullet proof vest, maybe?? – Finding a jacket large enough to cover the vest may have led to the too long sleeves.
http://photos.oregonlive.com/4450/gallery/terri_horman_shows_for_divorce_hearing/slideshow/index.html
angelab says:
August 26, 2010 at 11:23 pm
and Blink, knowing what you know now do you think Kyron could still be alive, just being “held” somewhere? TIA.
Sadly, no.
B
——–
I had to read B’s reply several times. Not because I didn’t understand, but because it just brings such an overwhelming sadness to me. And I know that if I feel this way, not having met Kyron, I can only imagine that the indescribable feeling that Kaine and Desiree must feel are beyond anything we might feel.
I always check (several times a day) on this case. Here on BOC, and obviously in the news sites. Sad to say, pictures of Kyron (on the headline stories anyway) are becoming scarce. Again –
Anyway, at this point in time, I guess I just hope that there are many others like me that will not forget Kyron until he returns home. And, if I may ask, let’s all hope and have faith that LE is getting the job done – soon – if for nothing more than to bring Kyron peace.
And, thankfully, I’m glad that you have that parrot on your shoulder, Blink. I hope he never stops talking to you.
Kyron, you are in the hearts and prayers of many. Much, much love to you. God be with you, little guy.. always.
GOOD MORNING!
Great article Blink! here’s more…..
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/kyron-horman-frustrations-of-polygraphy.html
Terry aside….why, for the sake of Kyron isnt DD taking a poly?either she is in on it up to her eyeballs or her dedication to terri is more inportant than the welfare of a child……
Kleat, my answer is, I dunno. I was basing my response on someone elses assumption that she was under some kind of house arrest. I’m not smart enough to understand how she could be under some type of ‘arrest’ without being formally charged. As far as who she would be accountable to for the monitoring it would be the company itself who does the monitoring and LE. Very interesting situation going on with TH at the moment. I think I have heard of someone agreeing to/asking for GPS monitoring and paying for it themselves as some type of assurance or guarantee of them not dipping out. I’ll have to rack my brain today to see if I can even remember what type of situation that was and who. She may have only had all that security around her yesterday because she was afraid someone might just try to go after her on the sidewalk. A missing child could cause anyone to snap at anytime, anyplace and go after her. Who knows what is going on with her!!! Maybe she doesn’t have access to internet, etc. at her rents cause Houze doesn’t want her reading stuff about the case possible tempting her to respond? Maybe she did spill the beans to LE and is worried that the boogeyman might be coming for her now! Without any verified info from LE one’s mind can wander all over the place and come up with some really wild ideas! Thank gosh Blink is giving us something credible to think about. Well, that is after someone splains it to me!!!! lol
Can’t find anyone promoting live conference online at 11, so I assume the way I read the announcement is correct – individual interviews with news people, then aired at news times. If so, makes for a lot more exposure time.
egads…I can’t find a live feed for the news conference!
Thoughts and prayers are with Kyron, his brothers and sister.
Opportunity: I keep coming back to the interview with the grounds keeper who said something along the lines of he was out getting the grounds ready and he saw some kids come out of the school and hoped they weren’t coming down to the field because he had work to do.
Was there some sort of garden or science project out there?
Sure a group of kids went out there, were they supervised by a teacher or just go and look at it on their own, figuring they would be safe in their normally safe environment?
How hard would it be for Terri to tell Kyron to “go ahead and check out the science experiment/garden and she was headed out to the truck, just go ahead down the steps there and meet me at the truck when you are finished”?
To the possibility that she had intended to release Kyron later that day for the purpose of suing the school and Jim Kelleys property: If you were lingering where you should not linger, in a truck, with a kid who you wanted to leave out there for someone to find (dead or alive) if the property owner let their dogs loose, you might not want to leave them on the property under those circumstances.
JMHO
Just read today’s post on Seamus O’Riley….which got me questioning what happened during those critical first hours and days after Kyron’s disappearance.
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/kyron-horman-frustrations-of-polygraphy.html
So then I found this early timeline which really bothers me….
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_chronology_of_eve.html
He was reported missing at 3:46…police did not arrive until 4:33…no alert until 5:30…searching begins at 8:09. Seriously! It takes over 4 hours to begin searching? As a parent, I find this utterly unacceptable.
Any live feed??
Is it possible that an electronic monitoring device would be removed for an appearance in court?
20.GeorgiaDad says:
August 27, 2010 at 12:25 pm
“I do not believe TH is “innocent”, but I also do not believe the she and DDS are psycho lesbians doing “hits” for the Medellin cartel either.”
*******************************************************
Neither do I, GeorgiaDad. Great first post!
No PC with Kaine and Desiree. They will provide an update to the case and answer questions from national news reporters. Have not established airing time as of today 11:30 am PST.
Here is a clip from Desiree moments ago…
http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2010/08/desiree_young_reads_a_prepared.html
lyla said:
“Because she cares more about her own but than her sons?”
Obviously!”
————————-
You hear these remarkable stories of how a Mother will jump into a river and pry apart the mouth of a huge alligator in order to save her child. There was a story recently of a man who did the same to save his little doggie. And she’s afraid to tell all she knows to police?
http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2010/08/desiree_young_reads_a_prepared.html
okay so IF (big IF) this has to do with some drug trafficking, it would make A LOT (two words) of sense that the “girls” hung out at the gyms in the area as what better place to sell steroids? perfect! puzzle piece to this mess IF true as this could be an internet connection for Terri also?
I apologize if this has already been discussed here, but I have yet to find the time to read everyone’s posts. I just had the thought that maybe the reason KH and DY and party didn’t go on camera more immediately after Kyron disappeared might be because of some sort of directions from kidnappers. I remember when I first started hearing about Kyron’s disappearance and how the media and the public seemed to be criticizing or questioning the parents for not showing their faces sooner and making a statement. Maybe there was some sort of ransom note that instructed them to stay quiet if they wanted to see their son again.
Just a thought.
I thought there was a presser today. It is 12:31 PST and I can’t find anything on it. What am I missing? Blinkers? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Not clear myself
B
Well off to work soon for me
never saw KH or DY
that is disappointing
Kaine and Desiree had private interviews with various news organizations at a hotel today. As far as I can tell only the Oregonlive and the Portland Tribune have posted a summary of their individual interviews. I would imagine they’re saving the video for the prime news hours.
There wasn’t anything new – I didn’t copy the links but they’re easy enough to find.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_hormans_parents_plan_fun.html
Link to presser. The only interesting detail I got from this was DY specifically indicated LE did not advise them to do this. I remember reading awhile back that there might be some tension between LE and the family. Her statement indicates tension. They want answers LE is isn’t giving them any and they think TH can provide them. I’m not so confident in that what TH knows would help. I think TH handed him off and the unthinkable occurred in the aftermath as to which TH is not privy.
Personally, I will re-state my concern for Desiree’s well being emotionally, I sincerely hope she is under the care of a Psych Professional.
It would seem that Desiree is under the assumption that Terri can control events, and that she used the words “is helping you” as opposed to “helped” you.
B