Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Memoir Of A Meltdown Jose Baez Loses It
Orlando, FL- Occurrences yesterday afternoon had me checking my Google Earth maps to double check that the Orange County Courthouse was not next door to NASA doing their ignition checks. The flare ups were numerous and loud.
"I'm Winning.."- Jose Baez (borrowed from Sheenster)
During the motion for exclusion and Frye hearing, Jose Baez, lost it.
Avid readers and contributors here know I am not about the drama. This was actually that baaaaadd.
FRYE'S WIT DAT?
Shy of jumping up and down or retreating to a fetal position with thumb-sucking involvement, Jose Baez, counsel for defendant Casey Anthony, needed a time out, several time outs, and was granted one after his co-counsel's requests, and another, courtesy Chief Judge Belvin Perry.
Because I value your time, and will not subject you to the H O U R S of innocuous banter we witnessed, my highlight reel for your review-
Let's say Jose Baez does not hold any advanced Science degrees. In the interest of disclosure, neither do I.
I do however understand that blaming the State, in this case, Jeff Ashton, for the reason that Mr. Baez missed deadlines requiring him to agree to a stipulation whereby he can no longer subject the "hardware" of Dr. Arpad Vass to the "Frye" test, is a no-n0.
Chief Judge Belvin Perry: ..Mr. Baez.. it sounds like to me, you entered into an agreement that you are trying to rescind.. If you questioned the results then, why did you agree to it?...
Jose Baez: ..It is the easiest thing in the world to hold a contempt charge over a lawyers head, Judge..
Chief Judge Belvin Perry: "...Your co-counsel is trying to speak to you."
Jose Baez: "Judge, can we have a 5 minute recess?"
Chief Judge Belvin Perry: "You may have a 5 minute recess."
This exchange came near the end of what can only be described as a window to the strength of the State's case against Casey Anthony for the murder of her daughter Caylee, and the utter lack of preparation and skill the defense team has by comparison.
Photo Credit Gary Kazanjin
While it is true that much of what we hear in pre-trial motions is not always what will be admitted at trial, which is the very reason for them in the first place, the defense's lack of knowledge of their own case is not a valid reason to deny something into evidence.
It is abundantly clear from this editor's perspective that neither Dorothy Clay Simms nor Jose Baez sufficiently understood the scientific subject matter they are requesting to be rendered inadmissible, or in effect, "junk science".
Devoid of strategy, repetitious and largely irrelevant, with several pending motions still to be heard, the defense ate up two straight days. As a result, all parties are back in court next Friday and possibly Saturday.
By far the most important witness to take the stand yet , Dr. Arpad Vass, research Scientist of "The Body Farm" fame and globally respected, peer-reviewed author of two separate studies on odor analysis in human remains, NAILED IT.
Dr. Vass's work, which is also referenced in some of the defense expert witness's studies , was published in The Journal of Forensic Sciences in 2004 and 2008. His testimony was masterful in bridging the gap between academic jargon and layman "speak."
He has a delightful and disarming diction and jurors are going to adore the way he can make such a macabre subject matter educational and practical.
Without reservation, Dr. Vass's testimony riveted both the courtroom spectators and the online community, however, his words brought strange reactions from the defendant herself, Casey Anthony.
When asked by Jeff Ashton what Vass's response was when he opened the sample containing a swatch of carpet from the trunk liner of the Pontiac Sunfire, he replied,
" At first I jumped back about 2 feet because the odor was so strong, but it was definitely the smell of human decomposition.."
.."What was your reaction to seeing that chromatogram result ?.."
.."I have never seen a peak in chloroform in a sample Ive's shot in over 20 years like that... The sample was 10,000 times the control sample.."
.."Human decomposition is very unique, it is as unique to me as a skunk smell is to everyone else. You don't have to see a skunk in the road to know it was run over.."
There are no leaps to be made here, no exaggeration. Dr. Arpad Vass 's testimony alone is enough for a reasonable person to conclude not only was there a decomposing human in the trunk of Casey's car, but coupled with a hair that has a deathband that can only be from Casey or Caylee, and we both know which one is alive, this case is all but waiting for a foreperson slip with an x in the box.
Looking ahead to trial, Dr. Vass colleagues, forensic entomologist Dr. Neal Haskell, forensic anthropologist Dr. Bill Bass and forensic botanist Dr. David Hall are some of the strongest expert witnesses in their respective concentrations in this country.
As an analogy, if I owned the side of a mountain I would carve them in likeness as my "Forensic Mt. Rushmore."
Dr. Vass was brought into this case by lead investigator Cpl. Det Yuri Melich.
B E S T C A L L E V E R.
For anyone saying- not so fast Blink, Judge Perry still has to rule on the frye issues and admissibility, I say " minor formality". He also asked Jose Baez if he had any other motions pending besides the balance of what was known to be heard Friday April 1st to which he answered no. Not a good idea considering co-counsel Cheney Mason filed a request for a rehearing that morning and asserts Judge Perry was bias in his rulings on earlier admissibility or suppression hearings. Musta slipped Jose's mind.
Do we all realize Judge Perry signed the majority of search warrants BASED ON SOME OF THIS DATA in the first place ?
Do we all realize that Judge Perry presided over the Grand Jury that issued Casey's indictment?
From the defense table, during the hearings, Casey Anthony furiously scrawled notes and flipped through voluminous reports and deposition transcripts.
On Wednesday, during the testimony of Yuri Melich, whereby at one point he was literally 5 feet away from her scribbling on the defense's "demonstrative aids" pad at Baez's request, Casey Anthony never once looked at Melich, or up, from her "make sure and look busy" activities.
Imagine that. Casey Anthony cannot eyeball her accuser, the lead detective in the case of her murdered child and this girl thinks she is going to be acquitted?
She is wrongly accused, this guy had and has it all wrong and she cannot be torn away from her post-it passing to observe his testimony about her dead child in her car? Seriously.
There is no explanation I can fathom where this defense feels it is in Casey Anthony's best interests to go to trial in the instant criminal case against her. None.
That said, it is.
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I have been waiting and waiting and waiting for the Dominic Casey Deposition ever since he conveniently got out of the first one. DC knows a whole lot of details in this case and I can’t wait to see what he has to say in his deposition. Will he lie to try to protect himself? Will he tell the truth about who directed him to search the exact same area where Caylee was found one month after he searched? I am not buying the physic angle of his story. Someone marked an “X” on that spot for him and I firmly believe that person’s last name starts with an A-nthony. Maybe after all that’s happened in court and after watching the DT circus act, maybe, just maybe DC has realized that telling the truth is the only way that he can detach his caboose from this runaway train wreck called the Casey Anthony Defense Team.
Sharma, Greetings. I think if LE can prove that any one of the Anthony’s actively worked to thrwart the law, they should most definitely be charged, and be held accountable.
I for one, will be holding my breath when George is called to testify- What ever will he do? And Cindy and Lee what they do? To me, they are as much an unknown wild card as George. I am wondering what will come out in Dominic Casey’s depo today- I bet he is a man that knows alot about alot of things…I wonder if he will tell what he knows?
Anniex9- Hello, I have not read the book The Lovely Bones, but I did see the movie- So sad- I cried too & I do not think you were a big baby- its hard to watch it, and not think of all the children who have been taken from us. I will add my prayers to yours Annie, may they all be safe, & happy in Heaven.
Phyllis- Hello? Are you out there? I hope you are not back to lurking…Olly Olly Oxen Free- It is I who learn alot from your posts- so post away -I am sorry if I frightened you into silence.
annals- Hey, excellent questions!- Blink- I hope you will answer these questions in a new piece & it will be prior to the trial
TGF- interesting points, thank you- BTW IIRC the labrador is not part of this case am I wrong Blink? Maybe I misunderstood.
Hello Loni- nice to see you. I remember that visit- that was her Surprise Surprise moment. It was odd- but I do not necessarily think it is telling (though you may be right on)- IMO Casey’s hope was to torture her parents as long as possible- with lies and clues and behaviors ect- This to me, was just another way for her to turn the knife.
nana2- Hiya. I am sorry I missed your comment earlier- VERY funny quips dear nana2- I loved your post!
Snipped-
“That moment when Baez went into Dr Vass’ Wiki page contents was a Hallmark moment for me & so came Inspector Clouseau & the Pink Panther..” LOL too funny
Sue- Hello, I apologize for not seeing your post previously- Thank you for sharing your insights on a PTSD plea in the eleventh hour.
Very interesting thoughts. I do believe you could be right in your analysis.
KAB- Hi.
Thank you for sharing your insights into PTSD- much appreciated. Your post was very helpful Thanks.In your opinion, would someone with PTSD actively cover-up try to get rid of the evidence of the crime? or would they leave it and avoid, do you understand what I mean? TIA
IDK whats going on behind the whole “State of Mind” talk- It seems very hinky to me. It just makes me think the defense is trying to sneak in some excuse for Casey’s crimes & her cold, heartless behavior.
They seem to not want to show all of their cards..One part of last weeks proceedings that had me seething, was the way Baez treated LDB- saying (pp)that he had been above board in his expert reports… (Fairgreve & all things related to K-9 issues) he couldn’t help it if an experienced and intelligent lawyer couldn’t figure out what questions to ask. ARGGG!
Yeah the only thing I think Casey is suffering from is cell phone withdrawal and the realization that the trial is 41 days away-
I have read alot, and some think that Casey was afraid of her parents and they controlled her- some opine that Cindy forced Casey to keep Caylee. That Casey did not have much control over her life and that she was stuck under The Anthony’s thumb, some think she suffered from emotional, physical and sexual abuse. I too have thought much the same.
But now I don’t know if any of this is close to the truth … IMO- Casey was NOT a child- She was an adult that at any given second could have walked out and made a life for herself and Caylee- Thousands of young mothers do it everyday. Casey , an adult, could have took responsibility for herself and Caylee. No one forced Casey to live at home-no one forced Casey to allow others in the delivery room. No one forced Casey to do anything.
As much as Cheney Mason would like us to believe, that Casey was an innocent child victim…She was not- IMO she was a selfish, lazy, conniving and manipulative young woman- that seemed to make all the wrong choices simply because each allowed her to obtain her “goals” to live La Bella Vita- even if that meant the death, and later disposal of her own baby.
Casey was a liar, a thief, and all the rest, because she Chose to be-not because of some long ago or recent abuse and not because of some newly discovered ailment or “State of Mind”
-AJMO
Sorry for the length guys-
Thanks for all the great posts lately everyone- I really appreciate reading all of every ones thoughts ect-
Awesome article, B. Thank you.
@9.Carolyn S. from Maryland says:
March 26, 2011 at 10:39 am
Oneshot;
psychologists say these types of people have “personality disorders” there is a wide range of them. I think the Anthony family is a perfect storm of personality disorders and the end result is a dead baby girl.
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Carolyn, I agree, and your entire post was fascinating. I believe I have known someone w/borderline personality as well, and it just as you describe.
TX Grandfather, your last post made me realize that I’ve made some assumptions about the Labrador; that it detects the indivual compound make-up of gasses. I think that’s probably true. I assumed that it has some kind of readout, since it’s designed to locate clandistine graves.
I was thinking that with a readout, someone who knows which compounds correspond to each phase of decomp (thanks to Dr Vass’ work), will be immediately informed.
As for the cadaver dogs; thinking about the fact that they are able to signal on all of the phases of decomp; cudos to them.
Word Girl; I’m honored by your praise.
I am unaware that my writing is good, but I know it’s better. My former husband is a novelist (thrillers) and I wisely allowed him to correct my writing during our marriage. He would routinely cut my words in half. It was annoying and enlightening in equal parts.
ROTFL.
B
The statements Dominic Casey made to law enforcement, including that he was on his cell phone with a psychic while searching the Suburban Dr woods, were sworn statements. He could reverse himself about that, but what are the chances? Oh, well, into the grinder he goes. The grinder being interrogation by the Asst State Prosecutor(s).
The Channel 13 article mentions that a new attorney has signed on to represent him; Brad Conway was advising him during the LE interviews as to what topics may involve work-product prohibitions.
Blink, Classy Gal and Ruby Rose; I’m not so sure I’d want to sit in on that deposition. It might be really interesting, but then again, it might be a REALLY tedious session of question-interuptus. But, I agree, Dominic Casey knows a LOT.
He was on the cell phone with Ginnie Lucas, I have seen the records.
That said, he knew way before that, and so did Hoover.
That gnarley knot is coming undone and I for one, look forward to it stretching all the way to Kissimmee.
B
if casey was so afriad of her parents and especialy cindy she wouldnt have ran up her credit cards 45,000 in debt she would not have stole money from her grany. I dont think casey was ever afraid of them! even the nighbor said she was out in the front yard cursing and yelling at cindy and at times at george. She couldnt have been afraid of her parents! she continued to deplete cindys bank account and the list goes on !!nawww
Hi Blink & Blink Family of Posters,
I have been deep in watching the video’s and reading and re-reading everything that has been going on over the last couple of weeks. I feel that the state has a very strong circumstantial case against Monster Mom and Dr VASS testimony seemed to tie it all together. He made an excellent witness and I was able to follow him and his explanation of how his test and results worked.
On another matter I was just reading on WFTV.9 that their is speculation that the Defense is now changing gear to blame it on George and I know that BLINK has been Hinting that they would throw George under the bus and with his statement in court that he would do anything to save his daughter do you think that he would go to prison for her and what do you think the chances are of the DT being successful with such an action.
Not hinting, outright stating the strategy as fact for over 2 years.
Not new, not novel and George is in board. He is as clueless as the Nigerian pyramid schemer that was grossly offended that he would accuse them of stooping that low.
O yeah, I am “there” with this case.
B
Rubyrose- I am guessing of course that Domminic Casey will be elligable for some type of immunity?
Blink?
He sure does have a lot of info and I would agree to him having some sort of immunity….
Blink, wow. OK, so if Dominic Casey hasn’t lied in sworn statements to LE, but simply had not, to date, told everything, then he’s good to go with the truth now if he decides to.
And what’s in Kissemee besides Baez’s office? It took me a moment knitting my brows, then, oh, exactly.
Ever get the feeling that the defense floats theories and then watches to see how they are received by the public? If it looks plausible then they carry on & if it doesn’t or one of their skanky witnesses turns out to be a 9 time baker act champion or a document forger/cop groupie looking for 15 minutes of fame then they drop it like a hot potato.
Who’s next on the defense hit list? The Easter Bunny?
We have had Zanny the imaginanny who is really Ricardo, Jesse, Amy, etc, Richard Grund (doing blood sacrifices), the supposed gang with a lifetime membership (courtesy of Dom Casey), poor Roy Kronk ( thank goodness for him or Caylee might still be in that swamp on the side of the road) and a host of others that either Cindy, Casey or Baez has come up with.
If George is dumb enough to go along with this I hope they charge both him & Cindy with every obstruction law they can & that Baez is laughed off the bar.
Casey wielded Caylee against Cindy & George like a weapon. JMO, Cindy & George were afraid of Casey (George was afraid of both Cindy & Casey), not the other way around.
So if Georgie does this for Casey and it works, Casey gets off, who will ever be punished for killing Caylee?
So you mean to tell me that she wrote all this sexual abuse crap way back for it to be use for her trial. You mean to tell me it has come this far for them to come out with that defense. Why not just say that from the start. Why worry about throwing all the evidence out if you were planning to use it at trial to show her state of mind. This is all bs. They are grasping at straws because now they need a way to use the evidence the state is using against her. What pathetic people. They don’t know their A$$ from there face. This is like a huge game of tricks to them. Blink, please tell me this will backfire!!!!
It will backfire on all of them.
B
A poster from another blog made this simple & startling observation
“so if George did it, why did he just not give her the keys to the shed to get a shovel ? instead of having her run to some neighbors house?”
Also if George did it why did Casey drive around with Caylee in her trunk?
Respectfully not startling-
we don’t know Casey did not have keys to the shed and her involving TL was not a way of implicating someone else, days later.
We don’t know that Casey drove with Caylee in that trunk more than a few hundred yards, as far as I am concerned.
B
I have a bad memory. Is it correct that what Caylee was found in was the last thing George saw her in. I am just not remembering that to be correct because to me that would have been something big. I also thought Cindy said she never saw Caylee with a shirt like that. So how can that be.
Today I read on wftv.com that the defense might be trying to blame George for Caylees death and say that Casey has post traumatic stress disorder. Blink you always said that the defense would throw either George or Cindy under the bus. It looks like that is coming but to me its an absolutely preposterous theory! What do you think?
I think Casey Anthony is going to spend the rest of her life in prison, with or without a death cocktail.
I guess these idiots want the blood of both their granddaughter and their daughter on their hands.
B
Guys- Don’t start getting sucked into all of these
“what ifs”
Common sense will prevail-
Blink has said the defense will try this-Blink has been saying this for A very long time- This isnt the first time we have heard convenient excuses for Casey’s reactions/behaviors/consciousness of guilt-
If Blink can put two and two together so can the prosecution.
Think about it- this has all been in the works for awhile- Ask yourself why The defense just in the last year, has began to take depos- ask yourself why Jose didn’t want Casey meeting with her family. Ask yourself why so many good lawyers and experts have jumped ship. Ask yourself why they wanted the vistor/witness list sealed. Ask yourself why they fought to have Casey’s blowup the day the remains were found sealed.Ask yourself why they fought to have no one refer to Casey as a liar.
Ugly-coping was brought up very early on. PTSD was looked into early on- Ashton said in court if this is what we think its going to be then….The Stare- has been to the big leagues before- they know what to expect.
George didn’t kill Caylee. He didn’t help cover it up- Remember back people. George is the last one to be clued into anything. He is a flawed human being – He messed up a number of times.
He went into those LE interviews, and spoke openly about his shortcomings- He confessed to his wrong-doings. He went into visit with his daughter and he mentioned his time before in court… THATS why he is the patsy. Go back and watch the tape of River and that guy in front of the house- ask yourself why they kept saying they needed to call Cindy…think about it Cindy not George.
As for WFTV- report- IMO they are wrong- George did not give the same description of the clothes that were found with Caylee and he did not give the description of the same back pack- And For Gods sake Casey recited a nondescript dream that she had- NOT a vivid panic inducing flashback- and you can’t believe a word she saysI could go on & on.
A person suffering from PTSD does not fit Casey Anthony and the TOTALITY of her behaviors and lies- IT JUST DOESNT-
Blink KNEW they were gonna go there guys- fear not- so did The State of Florida.
There is more evidence for the jury to weigh, guys- we are NOT privy to everything. And we are not privy to The States theories ect.
Ask yourself-if you had all of the evidence laid out before you- if you were a juror- would you conclude this crapola was enough to supply REASONABLE doubt? Or would you ,in the totality of the circumstances see that this is nothing more than another convenient ploy carried out in the defense of a selfish, cold, manipulative, killer who is trying to get off- using any means necessary-
I think The State knows what they are doing- I am sure Blink clued them in J/k
Casey Anthony has destroyed so many lives- to her, whats the big deal in destroying what remains of her fathers or her brothers or whomever’s?
AJMO
When I saw Bill Schaeffer say that the biggest piece of evidence in the case was that Caylee was wearing the same thing that George described, support by Belich, I was shocked.
Hard to do these days with some of the reporting I cam seeing, but under no set of circumstances is that correct.
B
Here’s a link to WFTV video; Belich/Sheaffer on possible Defense strategy; [George did it]:
http://www.wftv.com/video/27347083/index.html
Yes, Blink you’ve been saying that the defense will throw George under the bus for 2 years. And while, I always beleived you and it’s very interesting (because it’s so diabolical), I also always thought; So what? Almost no one will believe it.
Listening to Bill Sheaffer and Kathy Belich discuss this possible defense theory, for the first time, I don’t feel so sure that almost no one will believe it.
I recently read this post I made here at BOC in June 2009;
“In his interviews with LE, especially with the FBI, George refered to being warned off of confrontations with Casey by Cindy. And by George’s description of Casey’s behavior to the Orange County detectives, Casey would “take things as far as she could, then pile on more stuff”. So I get a picture of George’s confrontations with Casey resulting in a crazy domino effect of destructive behavior. Sometimes Cindy would keep stuff to herself so George wouldn’t get involved.
But in this case [June 15-16, 2008], it was Cindy doing the confronting and it seems to have resulted in horrific piling-on.
I honestly believe that this is a violently angry family, only kept in check by one another’s fierceness. And while Casey may be the worst offender, I do not for a moment believe that she is the original source of this terrible cycle of behavior.
When was the last time anyone heard of someone throwing their father through a window (which evidently, George did).
Sorry to get so vehement, but I do not believe that George is just a normal loving guy, de-balled and kept from doing right, by a razor-like wife. They are a set.” (End quote)
George’s anger and violent nature are plain in the courtroom. Clearly, he doesn’t control it and the jury will see and feel it. Casey is cunning and ruthless, which is why she can go up against George and win (in a twisted sense). If the Defense exploits this, could George’s big ugly anger overwhelm the jury’s impression of the dynamic?
@Myers – No, dear Caylee was found with the “Big Trouble” shirt – not the clothes or backpack or shoe or sunglasses that George last saw her wearing.
I am anxious for Friday’s hearing-3 motions will be heard. Blink why did the defense want Casey in the courtroom? I can’t remember…
So George pleads the fifth if asked ‘did you kill Caylee’?
Will the prosecution not object to this line of questioning? Would HJP not overule (another not even close to making it into law school poster) on whatever grounds? I just can’t see HJP enabling this strategy, imvho.
An informative opinion is the best one, which is why I applaud the posters on this site. I can only use my imagination on how this will play out in court. For much less intelligent reasons, I cannot see the defense pulling this off. In other words, it don’t take a rocket scientist to understand that throwing anyone under the bus is going to divert the guilt from Casey. Yes, George has a temper. He’s thrown his father threw glass, pushed protesters. Casey could have claimed physical abuse which would have made more sense than sexual.
Contradictions breed contradictions. I suggest the Imbreeders Lament as the defense theme song.
Anyways…
I’m sure I’d be proven wrong with my less than amateur theory about the line of questioning to George, but that does not stop my gut from telling me…..na uh. Not going to happen. Or as Blink confidently puts it ‘it’s going to back fire’. Agreed! And if I’m capable of tapping into this basic human instinct, then I gotta believe the jury will be enlightened on much higher levels.
And if George thinks this will make him the Anthony martyr, restoring some kind of holy dignity to his family, I’d have to ask him how it protected Caylee?
Oh I know, it’s too late for Caylee but there’s hope for his daughter. GONG again!
That gnarley knot is coming undone and I for one, look forward to it stretching all the way to Kissimmee.
B
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Blink, you get my heart PUMPED with words like that! I am so praying for it. This entire tragic hot mess has been engineered for maximum exposure, damn the fallout. A two yr old’s murder should never,ever have been the catalyst for the circus that this has become. %^&*#@^ them all.
Blink, just saw Bill Schaeffer’s video and then ran over here to congratulate you on being right about the “throw George under the bus” theory, but Terry and myers beat me to it.
I agree with myers: do not remember that George’s description of clothing matched what was found… I thought he said something about little jean shorts… don’t know if Bill S got that wrong.
Hello Blinkers, Mom 3,0 and Blink. I just want to say that it would be very nice if Blink would keep the Focus on this Case while the trial, so being from Germany i could keep informed properly with Blinks Articles and with all your comments. Thank you in advance
Ugh. Why do I keep typing HJP? It’s spring break and I need a break from the break.
Honourable Belvin Perry. Type that 100 times Raggy.
As for George covering Casey or being involved in the murder of Caylee? She would have lied a lot better having a father that worked for PD. (imagenary people, work, nanny, borrow a showelI from neigbour and so on) i understand that to create reasonable doubt they have to use George for now. Will it work at trial? I honestly doubt.
Hi Mom 3.0. You’re right, the Labrador isn’t part of this case. I was commenting on it because of the picture in in this article, which I like a lot. It’s fantastic in it’s odd vantage point and with threatening clouds.
lol annals, I am obsessed with them and it as well.
B
Myers, I was surprised that Kathy Belich said that Caylee’s clothes from the recovery site match George’s discription of what “he saw” her wearing on June 16. I don’t remember whether I’ve ever heard what he said she had on (except a backpack and do I remember something about a little skirt). I tried to find his statement on this last night, it may be buried in unlabeled discovery documents or is it something he said in the media?
If anyone has that handy, could you post it?
What I do remember about Caylee’s clothes from the recovery site is Blink’s assertion that the decomposition of shorts don’t match that of the other items, some of which were reduced to stitching threads.
What I can say with certainty is that Caylee was not wearing the shorts when she was placed in the plastic bags or when she was dumped in the swamp. It is my opinion it is possible they were put there at a later time.
B
I have no knowledges in juridiction none. So please help me someone to understand the defense in this special case. I have to say first that i am always for the truth no matter what but if i were an advocat and i had to create reasonable doubt to save my clients live and if i were not sure of his guiltiness i would go on with the accident theory. State to prove Homicide and so on…what are they trying to do? Are they going on with Nanny, George, jesse or the Meter Reader did it? Is it so that they never spoke about an accident because it would implicate Casey directly with the death of Caylee? ( George said once it was an accident that got out Control ) i am not judging anyone but i don’t understand. I think nevertheless that so or so with this Defense or another one, Casey will be found guilty.
myers-
Short on time, but I will try and answer your 8:09pm questions.
George stated in depo and statements Caylee was wearing a jean skirt and some kind of short sleeved top, possibly pink, sunglasses and ponytail. She was found surrounded by the pink striped shorts and pink top w/ lettering.
I would not believe Cindy at all. There was another similar shirt found in the dresser to the one that was found at the recovery scene.
E
The shorts are actually white (were) with a pink, orange and blue light pin-stripe.
Caylee is wearing them and the shirt from a video of them playing with Casey in a green top.
For me, I listen to George’s early interviews, before the vapors got him.
B
Sorry B and myers-
Meant to say pinstriped not PINK.
Had pink on the brain.
I think i Look too often Law & Order:))
Blink, looks like you’ve been right all along. Smarty-pants! I agree with you that it will blow up in their faces. I think it might be the final little push the jury may need to vote for the Death Penalty. The State smelled this one coming for years and will be completely prepared for it. Thanks again for all you do.
I am so over the circus, and having compassionate advocates for this child treated like idiots that cannot read and retain information. Seriously.
How the Hell do 11 lawyers over almost 3 years come up with such clap trap?
B
Good morning, Blink.
“When I saw Bill Schaeffer say that the biggest piece of evidence in the case was that Caylee was wearing the same thing that George described, support by Belich, I was shocked.
Hard to do these days with some of the reporting I cam seeing, but under no set of circumstances is that correct.
B”
Correctomundo!
I’d point Kathi Belich and Bill Shaeffer to “Plaintiff’s Exhibit Number 9″ Q and A sequence. Remember way back when, Blink, when we tried to decypher the images of that photo revealed in this state depo of George Anthony (and the depos of Cindy and Lee too)?
The state was prepared early on, to nail the door shut behind George trying to lay down in the path of the bus with this one. Please turn to page 194, for Jeff Ashton hammering this one home, and George didn’t have a clue. (It may be time for the Baez team to file a motion to exclude ALL crime scene evidence based on spoliation and the critical failure of LE to allow Dr. Spitz, Ms. Kenny-Baden, Baez and the Bones expert waiting on the dark (except for media video lights) corner of Hopespring and Suburban Drive, to complain loudly about not being allowed in to view the as yet, unidentified victim and to possibly tread on tiny bones.)
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/depos/ganthonydepo080509.pdf
We begin at the top of page 194 , where it’s noted that the photo to be shown to George, is not yet marked for evidence:
Quote:
“…oh, this one is not marked yet. Can you mark it?
[Whereupon, the document referred to was
marked for identification as Plaintiff's Exhibit
Number 9.]
BY MR. ASHTON:
Jeff Ashton: Let me show you State’s Exhibit 9 and just ask you if you recognize that photograph? [Handing]
George Anthony: [Examining] Yeah. It’s a photo of Caylee.
Jeff Ashton: Have you ever seen that photo before?
George Anthony: No. I don’t remember if I have or not. I don’t believe so. No.
Jeff Ashton: The shirt that she’s wearing in that photograph, do you recognize — from what you can see of it, do you recognize that shirt?
George Anthony: Not off — no. I don’t recognize that shirt. I don’t know if it’s a pajama or if it’s a T-shirt. I’m not really sure. I’m not — I don’t know.
Jeff Ashton: Could that be the shirt she was wearing when she left?
George Anthony: No. She wasn’t wearing this one.
Jeff Ashton: Okay. So it’s a pink shirt, but a different pink shirt?
George Anthony: Yeah. It definitely wasn’t this one right here.
Jeff Ashton: Okay. Thank you. All right.
…”
Kleaty Kleat, you got that right. Your kinda freaking me out because I have GA depo open on my desktop at that part, lol.
Nicely done.
B
(sorry for the mixed metaphor of bus and nailing doors shut… but that makes as much sense as this whole mess at times…
Blink,
(sorry using my sista’s com)
Are you still standing strong with the “O” theory?
I do.
I reread your article again and again.
Casey had no intensions on using tape, until she opened that trunk and saw that gaping hole. She must have been struck with TERROR.
Question anybody…
Has G’s cell phone records been investigated? His cell tower pegs?? this is one way to prove he isn’t the murderer.
-Robbie
Oooops…. Pings!
“we don’t know Casey did not have keys to the shed”
Blink, iirc, George told either OCSO or the FBI that he hid the keys to the shed and only he & Cindy knew where they were. I don’t think Casey was trying ti implicate Tony, he was supposed to be her “happy ever after”, jmo.
Casey is a gifted liar but her planning seems to be spur of the moment, she never seems to have thought or planned very far ahead.
It seems to me the defense is running a spaghetti defense, throw it all against the wall & see what sticks.
The 2 witnesses from the front lawn scuffle are 4 MONTHS LATE in being added to the defense witness list. They now have to overcome the hurdle of having Judge Perry allow them to be added. LDB, JA & FG will be prepared and I’m sure they saw this coming a long time ago.
Someone sane needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with George & try to pull his head out of his ass.
O you got that sister. My theory is the defense added them so the judge would nix it due to the deadline and give them grounds for appeal.
Whatever, it is all smoke and mirrors and apparently Jose Baez has no problem being the laughing stock of the legal community, so…
B
George begins to talk about theft of gas cans.
2/4 George Anthony’s Police Interview – Casey, Caylee Marie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXstJBhXnko&feature=related
Blink.
LOL…I posted @ THM Bozo is just “fly-flapping”; you said “clap trap”. We may be on the same page here. LOL
“O you got that sister. My theory is the defense added them so the judge would nix it due to the deadline and give them grounds for appeal.”
Blink these 2 witnesses cannot be claimed by the defense to be “newly discovered”, the video tape & police reports from that incident have been available for 2 1/2 years.
In reviewing a lot of videos available Cindy strikes me as far more violent than George. Cindy is seen with a baseball bat, a hammer.
Blink did you see this comment by Richard Hornsby?
“The depth of the defense team’s ignorance has made commenting on this case completely un-enjoyable. Because they are so inept, you can almost guaranty the State will win on every major issue.”
Richard Hornsby March 25, 2011 at 10:49 am
He’s right, and his opinion is shared by the bulk of practicing defense attorney’s in Florida.
This is not a defensible case with this suspect and this legal team, period.
It should have pled, and it should do everything it can to plead out.
B
George’s attorney makes statement on behalf of George………
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/27358680/detail.html#
OMG Blink! Deju vous or voodoo one….back was it 2yrs already…we all warned George! But……..remember George said he’d change places with Casey (words to that affect)….and some of us believed George would lay down for that bus to run over him if he could save his daughter. Not that it will ever happen, but, I do so wonder how his mind is thinking two years later……
Did you call Belick and Schaeffer and tell them they are wrong on the clothes? ROFLMAO and hugs to you and all the Blinksters who knew this (thanks to you) so long ago………
lol, lol.
No, but I do suggest they do their research before a criminal attorney makes such a statement error.
B
The A’s attorney has issued a statement…..
They will have to address the 31 days. No getting around it. I think they will use the incident (if they can) to show how “violent” the family dynamics were. Imagine how things were behind closed doors etc. She panicked, she was too scared of G & C etc. It won’t work, but they have to do something.
Blink I was flabbergasted when I heard Bill Schaeffer say that the biggest piece of evidence in the case was that Caylee was wearing the same thing that George described, & this was support by Belich-
Thanks Kleat for pointing out that brilliant questioning by Ashton-
The State has got this covered-
Remember back- Lee asked Casey in a jail visit- (pp)Tell me who I can trust – She Said (pp)You can most definitely trust Dad and Mom-
Remember the pics of the big trouble shirt? The only ones of Caylee in that shirt?
One of which LEE and George and Cindy couldn’t say where it was taken or by whom? The ones that Ricardo sold to the tabloids? Remember that Casey went out of her way to call up Ricardo and ask about those pics?
She certainly remembered when and where and by whom those pics were taken, she certainly remembered Caylee wearing that shirt. And out of the clear blue sky called up Ricardo to “enquire” about them…Remember NONE of The Anthony’s recognized that shirt-
It was a shirt Caylee wore only at Ricardos- IMO it was never brought home. Remember Cindy packed and unpacked Caylees BP each night?
Casey knew where to get the shirt, she is the only one of the Anthony’s that knew Ricardo’s and where he lived and that he wasn’t some gay guy friend- and she knew the drum photo at “Zanny’s” was his place- and Casey went to his place to do “laundry”…
Who knew about Ricardo? Who knew about Caylee’s shirt The shirt that was found with Caylee?- Who knew that Caylee slept along side Ricardo and Casey? Who knew where to find the shirt? Who went over and was seen coming up from the garage/laundry room? Who called to “enquire” about the pics? Who said Ricardo’s was Zanny’s?
Blink- you are correct- this ploy will will go no where. All roads lead back to Casey- even the ones she (or her defense ect) tried so hard to steer us down -which seemed to point to someoneelse- STILL can be backtracked to Casey
AJMO
Lippmann released a statement:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/27358680/detail.html
The attorney representing George Anthony released a statement on Tuesday, saying his client had nothing to do with the death of his granddaughter, Caylee Marie Anthony.
Attorney: George Anthony Didn’t Kill Caylee
Maybe someone can make light of this for me. I have listen to George’s interview with police. George says that he chases Casey driving her mothers truck. He is not sure of the date. He thinks it is the week of the 15 or the 23rd of June. He loses her in traffic. The 24th is when the gas can incident happened. Now if the chase happened before the gas tank incident, why would George not confront her about that when she comes home on the 24th, and the gas tank incident happens. Which makes be believe that the chase happened after the gas tank incident. Why is Casey using her mother’s truck and where is the car? What ever comes of that story? When does Cindy get her truck back..Doesn’t that mean that Cindy had to see Casey to get her truck back, right? So if Casey kills Caylee on the 16th,dumps the car at Amscot somewhere after the 24th, how does she come to using Cindy’s truck for the chase.