On Quitting Casey: The New C Word Is the New Quality Control
Orlando, FL- I thought my chapped skin was over.
Read, shower, repeat.
Write, ignore call from editor, shower, repeat.
The OCD I developed during the case of the murder of Caylee Anthony by her TotMom, The C word, continues.
Anger over the death of an innocent child is understandable, fierce loathing when the accused is her Mother, is justified.
What is not, is the minutes of our day one devotes to the C word.
Angst is power, nobody will argue that. What is decidedly MOST powerful, is quitting Casey.
Images of fake checks with non-existant banks and non-existant companies are hitting the web to act as a barometer of the public’s interest and acceptance.
The porn industry rescinded an offer to C word, if that does not say it all, I don’t know what does. Let’s say they tend to be a less judgemental crowd on occasion.
I am calling you out. I am calling me out.
Quit caring. Quit Casey = Cashless Cow
If you want to be a color form in this girls chloroform play set, I cannot stop you.
What I can tell you, is that these payday wannabees have been Trumped.
Literally.
Between The Donalds’ hair being real and him getting a look up President Obama’s unmentionables bearing a birth certificate on a whim, who do these ilk think are going to give them “equal time”?
IT IS WORKING. REPEAT. IT IS WORKING. WE ARE WINNING.
Even Rupert Murdoch says “If a single person in my US offices so much as says that *%?#/’s name out loud it will make Rebekah Brooks stay in the big house look like a debutant cotillion, whatever that is.”
Here’s what happened:This is the most notorious and nationally covered case since The O word, and this felon and her counsel can’t get a legitimate network meeting.
Yep. The Moral leprosy crew are singing for supper. Industry insiders will tell you that the rumor mill has produced a steady call of public outrcy at the mere notion their firms would consider any deals with Cword or her defense team, and the existing artists threatening to walk if they do.
Simply put, it is tantamount to scheduling a tsunami in your lobby. Not even Don Draper could pull that off.
Ms. Folmer, reached from her latest promotion to washroom hand towel service had this to say:
Due to my journalistic integrity and because nobody told me we could not cancel a check after a verdict, I was wondering if I could fill a role in Jackass4 or Roller ball 10. I look forward to meeting the jury members, your among friends.
Late this morning, calls to THE BAEZ LAW FIRM for comment have not been returned.
A woman answering the phone at Jose Baez’s office who declined to be identified, told Blink, Editor In Chief of www.blinkoncrime.com:
Good Luck getting a call back, he has been sitting in his office for two days hitting the redial button to the News of The World Offices trying to get a live person on the phone. He is convinced he can swing a deal with somebody over there. Any Suggestions?
Sure, I answered, tell him to hit the O button, and just keep holding, they have a very busy switchboard.
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Here’s our O’Reilly’s smack downs on Geraldo (holy moly….what’s going on with the hair?) LOL @ calling himself a pretty good lawyer. Goes to show anyone can be on tv.
Thank you YOUTUBE!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF1cePKUda0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oZyUfbvhEI&feature=related
Illinois position on the Caylee Law:
http://jg-tc.com/news/article_4f46567c-c234-11e0-921f-001cc4c03286.html
Do you still believe in Miracles? Let me share one with you.
A young couple that I have known all their life, and lives in our little town in Alabama, has a little boy three years old. The child lived with his mother. Two weeks ago he went missing and when they found him he was in the pool at the home. They are not sure how long he was in the water…several minutes they think. When the mother found him he was on the bottom of the pool. She called 911 immediately then got him out of the pool…started CPR. When 911 got there they started CPR. They took him to a local hospital then air lifted hin to UAB Hospital in B’ham. His lungs were so full of water they were beginning to leak…he was blue…was put into an induced comma for several days. Long story short…He stayed in the hospital in that condition until this week. They were trying to determine the outcome…they didn’t know if he was gonna live or what condition he would be in if he did live. The doctors finally started weaning him of the breathing maching. He has been walking and pushing toys all over the hospital. Today or tomorrow Little Tex will be coming home from the hospital and he has no sign of brain damage or any other problems.
This could have happened to Calyee if her mother had notified police of the drowning, if there really was a drowning!!! I guess we will never know the truth. But thank the Lord Tex is well.
By the way the doctors at UAB told the family that there was NO MDICAL reason that this should be alive. God bless that family.
This has been long and I am sorry . Thanks for reading.
Sorry for the mispelled word. Should have real NO MEDICAL reason.
@ Ragdoll & Pen – thank you for your thoughts re; the Opportunistic Looting and Rioting in the UK. I snipped this from a Blog supporting our Met Police…….Isn’t it odd how human rights only seem to apply to the guilty? Don’t the innocent have any right to live in peace? I don’t understand the perverse logic which says you can kick me, beat me, burn down my house and leave my life in bits but I’m the one in the wrong because I’m pissed off about it. Apologists please clarify……
How true. The C-Word had more rights than Caylee, the victim. I don’t like the world I’m living in and can only hope and pray that change will be brought about such as Blink and her ilk.
The local news here is showing clips of George and Cindy “making a pilgrimage” (honestly-that’s what the newscaster called it) to the swamp memorial.
UGH!!@@!!@!!!
Always the showboats these two.
And always about the next money-making opportunity.
Both decked out in head to toe matching white shirts and pants. (purity? innocence? I think NOT)
No doubt waiting until they knew all the media trucks were on site for the photo op.
Cindy smiling like a fool for the camera.
Gotta keep their faces in the news.
Lack the decency and common sense to stay inside the house – where they should be hanging their heads in SHAME!!
This is kinda silly, but oh so gratifying.
CNN usually keeps a top 10 trending topic (love the alliteration) on their justice page.
NO. MORE. C WORD! A round of chocolatini’s on me!
Blink and friends–I apologize for not sending the link on the child with the doll–it is true and is a facebook pic/comment that it was time for a “talk” with the little girl and that our friend was disturbed by it. They are a loving family; one son, one daughter. I am surprised and offended that anyone here would think I would lie or make up a story (for what purpose?) I have been a blinkster long before most of you here now! I am not computer savvy and don’t know how to share OR if it is appropriate to share someone’s FB. I will try anyways though in retrospect I don’t want everyone else to be sickened by it as well. I wish to God I didn’t share my horror with y’all. Will attempt to share, prob for last time. Happy belated Caylee.
I did not suspect you were not being truthful, but I do suspect wherever you saw that or whoever told you that is not. I think perhaps you might have given the whole scenario?
No worries and thanks for clarifying.
B
Oh my gosh . . . why was this report not submitted in time for the trial?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-dcf-report-20110811,0,1774056.story
August 11, 2011
Headline:
Casey Anthony’s ‘failure to protect’ caused Caylee’s death, DCF said
After a nearly three-year investigation, DCF officials release comprehensive review of Caylee’s death.
(snipped)
DCF officials this morning confirmed that Caylee Marie’s death was the result of Casey Anthony’s failure to protect her, an agency report released today shows.
“It is the conclusion of the Department of Children and Families that [Casey Anthony] failed to protect her child from harm either through her actions or lack of actions, which tragically resulted in the child’s untimely death,” the investigation’s report states.
The nearly three-year Investigation verified three allegations classified as “maltreatments,” including death, failure to protect and threatened harm.
(snipped)
DCF spokeswoman Carrie Hoeppner said the state agency’s probe, which ended this week, was not a criminal investigation. The conclusions were submitted to the Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
See OS article about today’s DCF report about Caylee’s death and who was responsible for neglect that caused it through ‘actions or lack of actions’.
@2.Lynne says:
August 10, 2011 at 2:09 am
Illinois position on the Caylee Law:
http://jg-tc.com/news/article_4f46567c-c234-11e0-921f-001cc4c03286.html
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Caylee’s Law is a wonderful thing! I’m 100% behind it! I’ve signed petitions and written letters until I’m blue in the face. However, I’d like to hear this much noise AND response re: tougher laws/sentences for the abusers and murderers of children.
I know you all feel the same….just needed to get that out.
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The DCF Report (I think DCF says at the end that interviews of GA and LA need to be completed?) :
http://www.wesh.com/pdf/28835094/detail.html
The complete DCF report released today, 2 days after Caylee’s anniversary of her birthday, the day she would have turned 6 years old, and have special grade one presents, maybe a brand new big girl bicycle to learn to ride.
“DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES
——-REVIEW OF CHILD DEATH——-
COMPREHENSIVE DEATH REVIEW – FINAL REPORT”
http://www.wesh.com/pdf/28835094/detail.html
One more comment on the same topic of the DCF report, I’m wondering if there is a statute of limitations on “child neglect”, which Mike DeForest over at wdbo, says the mother was never charged with. Guess it didn’t fit the capital case as appropriately as child abuse.
Now that the report is finalized, can the egg dispenser be charged with child neglect? Neglect may just fit with the ‘truth’ the jury decided of accidental drowning.
The DCF report on Casey Anthony came out this afternoon..
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-dcf-report-20110811,0,1774056.story
PDF:
http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2011-08/272204480-11143144.pdf
The DCF was not able to interview George and Lee? Wow.
B
Baez on Telemundo
http://msnlatino.telemundo.com/shows/Al_Rojo_Vivo/
It also says there that Baby Breeann in MO is Latina
@ WPG
-snipped-
Casey Anthony’s ‘failure to protect’ caused Caylee’s death, DCF said
After a nearly three-year investigation, DCF officials release comprehensive review of Caylee’s death.
Just a not guilty verdict too late! Not acceptable…and this report could have had an impact during that trial, somehow!
The C Word will not be charged in Federal Court, as much as we all wish it would be so. I doubt she will be served probation, who wants her in their jurisdiction? This case has weighed heavily on my heart, and at this point I can only rely on a Higher Power. RIP Sweet Caylee.
Just read the DCF document, good God it takes three years to determine failure to protect? I guess it was not a priority, as the child was dead. Sigh.
I was wondering if it was some sort of oversight prompted by the probation issue.
B
The DCF was not able to interview George and Lee? Wow.
B
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According to the report on 1/9/2009 the DCF went to the jail to interview Casey but on advice of counsel she declined to be interviewed by them.
I knew that but wth with George and Lee?
B
snip from the OS article:
That new report was dated Aug. 10, 2011. It’s not clear what prompted the generation of a new report. ” That section of the document is redacted.”
Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28835052/detail.html#ixzz1Uom1kLWy
I knew that but wth with George and Lee?
B
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They probably hadn’t gotten their stories straight yet or hadn’t figured out the storyline yet. They all backed into the ‘pool drowning’ theory which in the end won them the free pass.
I’m wondering, guessing & hoping that the release of this DCF report is the stirring of the pot for Federal chgs in the death of Caylee. Ashton had also said in his after trial interviews that a second set of eyes would be needed to file perjury charges against Cindy, that the state prosecutors office couldn’t do it because they tried the case & would not be considered impartial (pp).
Blink says @
August 11, 2011 at 5:11 pm
The DCF was not able to interview George and Lee? Wow.
B
–and–
August 12, 2011 at 3:30 am
I was wondering if it was some sort of oversight prompted by the probation issue.
B
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Unfortunately this is not some anomaly for the Department of Families and Children in the state of Florida.
So many sad, sad cases that just slip thru cracks that are wide enough to drive a mack truck thru.
The Florida DCF is broken and has been for many years.
I know it’s much the same with many other states … but the Florida DCF is notoriously bad and in need of a complete overhaul.
Nothing against the social workers and the workers in the trenches at DCF … b/c most are dedicated hardworking good people who are hopelessly overworked and underpaid for the heartbreaking work they do.
They have case loads that are unbelievable.
One worker is typically assigned the files for a number of children/families cases that is would take at least 5-10 workers to properly investigate and follow-up with.
Most are priority/high risk cases that need immediate intervention.
Because of these working conditions … the result is burnout and high turn over of DCF workers.
I can’t even imagine coming home from my job EVERY friggin day knowing that although I did my very best – I basically was banging my head against a brick wall every day.
And then laying my head on my pillow at night and having nightmares worrying about all those children that I couldn’t help that day.
Yes there are the occasional DCF worker that does not fit this profile – and makes stupid errors that some poor child has to suffer from.
But most of these people are doing a thankless job in a system that just does not work.
So much time each day is spent just trying to shred thru the mountains of paperwork and blasted red-tape.
Precious time that could and should be spent actually making changes for children.
Once again common sense and govt agencies are like oil and water.
And who suffers?
The innocents.
Mooo
@ Ragdoll,
Agree that it may have had an impact at trial.
BUT
Something is waaaaaay off here with no interviews of GA and LA.
Remembering LA refused to give a sample of his DNA so LE had to have him served with a warrant.
Sounds like DCF repeatedly tried to make contact with the Ant’s after Caylee was found but the Ant’s ignored them.
How does one ignore or evade DCF without further action or legal intervention?
The report mentions GA not being home for the August 25, 2008 visit where C and CA were interviewed TOGETHER. No mention of LA.
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“I was wondering if it was some sort of oversight prompted by the probation issue.
B ”
Blink, could be. Also, the O-Sentinel filed a motion for ALL sealed documents to now be unsealed and released . . .
Still, an oversight is an oversight.
Could the report play a part in the requirements of probation – - – ie. supervision around child of tender years – - – IF probation is ruled?
It’s more supporting material for the Z case and the lying to LE case(s), no?
At least this report will stay with C.
Isn’t it amazing that DCF confirms the obvious, that FCA failed to protect, contributed to her child’s death…….yet C & G brazenly promote themselves as spokespersons for grandparents rights? Caylee’s law?
This entire family is mentally unbalanced. The public is supposed to believe the fairytale of a accidental drowning, coverup due to incest abuse..but the family bent themselves backward assisting the killer to beat the charges. And they want MONEY for all that?
Where anywhere is there any evidence that any of them CARED about what happened to Caylee? DCF’s report at least destroys the MOTY hogwash.
According to vinelink Casey IS under community Supervision by the Florida Department of Corrections.
https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/searchResultsAction.do?searchType=offender&siteId=10000&searchWhere=state&doc=10000|900&agency=1&id=&lastName=anthony&firstName=c&dob=&ag
WFTV…. Reports Casey Anthony will have to report back to Orlando… More to come!
13 page ruling. Judge is saying she did not do probation… has until august 26 to report to Orange county.
Thanks for the updates concerning her GUILT.
Guys- JMO but the jury had all this info- thats what I was trying to convey to annetteaa1-
At the VERY LEAST the jury should have returned a guilty verdict based upon the FACT that she was Caylees Caregiver, and that her death resulted from neglect -failure to protect and/or abuse-
No exact cause of death (murder) needed -no exact time of death needed-
It shouldnt be that hard for 12 reasonable people to weigh all the evidence circumstantial or not- and come to this conclusion-
The problem was they didnt weigh the evidence- they totally disregarded it- and the Anthony’s made it easy for them to do so-
Luckily the DCF wasnt swayed by The Anthonys actions/inactions and subterfuge- they found that regardless of anyones failure to be forthcoming- IT was Caylees MOTHERS fault that she was dead.
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At least we can rest assured that C-word will not be able to pick up where she left off—She will not be able to gain employment as a nanny or caregiver of children EVER.
Lets hope if she ever has another child- no matter where she resides she will be watched over by child protective services- inorder to ensure the childs safety.
AJMO
Thanks to palerider for wishing little caylee ha Happy Birthday in Heaven-
Mj-and all- I read on THM that George and Cindy showed up at the memorial… and they were still talking about advocating for missing children, as if they still believe that Caylee was missing and /or kidnapped?
I dont understand them- I really dont.
It does seem as if someone wants to make the disposal site a park- I hope there is a plaque that details Caylees life story- her death, the trial- ect and I hope it reads how she came to be left there by her caregiver.
AJMO
@ Mom3.0
At the VERY LEAST the jury should have returned a guilty verdict based upon the FACT that she was Caylees Caregiver, and that her death resulted from neglect -failure to protect and/or abuse-
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If the jury had found CA guilty of anything that meant they would have had to stay another week for the penalty phase & they clearly didn’t want to do that.. One of those jurors made it clear during jury selection that he had definite vacation plans..
Mom.3:
Respectfully, as you state above you were trying to convey to me these thoughts, I did understand, just in PART disagreed
I agree, there was never a question to me Miss Anthony didn’t properly supervise her daughter and that she was neglectful in not reporting her missing in a timely manner, or that she lied to police. I get it, AND I get she is easy to dislike.
Where we disagree is that is different than murder or manslaughter, and it still remains possible even plausible that it was an accident covered up . Add to it, as the report again states, there appears to be no trauma to the skeleton,it makes cover up of an accident even more plausible, to me. Just because she did something unthinkable to most of us, even neglectful it does not mean it was murder or manslaughter. And yes, I believe the whole family was / is lying about something which makes it even more plausible there is a cover-up to an accident they (more family members) may have been part of.
Where we further disagree is, I still stand behind the jury did their job. There has never been any question to me that she was neglectful in not reporting her missing and mis leading police.
I took it one step further that Cindy and George were too not reporting her missing, as she was a minor child and member of their household. There is something very suspicious about a man who reported gas cans stolen on 6/24, but not a two year old. That view is clearly not popular or Cindy and George would have their own investigation and set of legal charges pending , but it remains my view.
@ Sammy
Unfortunately this is not some anomaly for the Department of Families and Children in the state of Florida.
So many sad, sad cases that just slip thru cracks that are wide enough to drive a mack truck thru.
The Florida DCF is broken and has been for many years.
I know it’s much the same with many other states … but the Florida DCF is notoriously bad and in need of a complete overhaul.
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Being a Floridian I can definitely agree with you on your assessment of the Florida DCF & we have had many sad cases thru the years especially in Broward County..
snip from WESH.com)
Perry said in his decision that Anthony and her defense were abundantly clear on Strickland’s intentions and took advantage of a clerical error.
“It is very clear that the Defendant and her attorney knew she was to start her probation upon release from the Orange County Jail. Despite this fact, they took advantage of a scrivener’s error which started the probation while she was being held in the jail pending trial,” he wrote.
Perry lashes out in the order against defense attorney Jose Baez, who admitted last week he knew about the error but said he had no obligation to inform the court.
“An attorney has a duty of candor. Under this umbrella of an attorney’s duty to the court, attorneys are primarily responsible for ensuring that orders of the court are followed. While ignorance of a court order is one thing, the failure to abide by that order and the failure to notify the court of a known scrivener’s error in the order may be a violation of an attorney’s duty of candor,” Perry said.
Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28838309/detail.html#ixzz1UqMVHZSW
@ WPG says:
August 12, 2011 at 10:44 am
Trust me friendy, we are on the same page. For the life of me, I don’t understand the pussy footing around the felon. Why is DCF clearing this up now??????? First….DUH. Second….double DUH. What a useless department. It’s one thing to fail a child who has no media exposure to their plight…but pulling it off in front of the entire galaxy to witness? What other proof do we need that there’s a dysfunction at the junction?
I’m guessing DCF employs individuals related to the jury. Oh, and it’s not just happening in Florida either.
DCF did attempt to interview GA,CA & LA according to the report. However, George told them that CA was not feeling well and they should come back at another time,. There apparently was zero followup for the interviews. They did try to interview the Cword while she was in jail and were blocked by lawyers.
Mom3.0
The behavior of George and Cindy at the memorial is just bad behavior on their part. They are still looking for a payday from all the media no matter what the circumstances.
IMO few places would hire Cindy or George based on their performace in the court case. They will reap the rewards of not telling the whole truth.
They would be better off to sell the house and move back to Ohio. Maybe with John Kasick’s new programs, Ohio can produce more jobs and they can find work.
Excellent idea about the park and the plaque. Why not put a video with voice from a narrator on digital media so that with a push of a button, people could view and listen.
To Mom3.0 and Ragdoll – love to you both!
Blink, love to you, your MaMere, Mr. Blink and Blinkettes.
Caylee’s smiling down on y’all and all our BOC friends. She knows who really loves her.
…as for GA and LA not being interviewed….well, just how hard did DCF try….REEEEEEEALLY? Ma Barker et al are not intimidating creatures…just ignorant as I’ll get out. Bottom line, shame on that entire family. I use the term ‘family’ loosely. More like a ‘murder of crows’.
The fact that each member of this family had to lawyer up screams of misconduct. Casey was the caregiver so what do these nut jobs have to protect?
And annetteaa1…can you please offer proof or evidence that Caylee drowned by accident and George found her in the pool? The defense sure has heck didn’t and couldn’t. They didn’t even attempt to. There’s thousands upon thousands of pages connecting the c word to Caylee’s death (the more damning being Casey was THEEEEE last person to be seen with Caylee), yet you’re driven to buy into something that has no merrit; that scenario never played out. That’s not just my opinion. That’s a fact.
My friend, you’ve been hog swoggled by a fabrication woven by c word’s d team on a whim. What’s truly bizzare, is the defense NEVER needed a theory of any kind. They NEVER needed to establish how Caylee died. Yet, they felt they had to. WHY? Maybe b/c they knew their client murdered her daughter. They had no confidence in their case. What did they have to lose but their reputations? All they wanted was to prevent c word from getting the death penalty. That was their agenda. In their wildest dreams, I don’t believe for a na no second they ever thought they’d get IToff completely. The accident is a lie from H E DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS and anyone with the ability to think and process facts, knows it. As LUCK would have it, they ended up with a jury of 12 minds like yours.
I’m speaking up for Caylee and I simply cannot let this non sense thrive. Right or wrong, I simply won’t entertain your opinions without something to back them up. My patience is shot. Lord, forgive me.
annetteaa1,
Hello. I brought up our discussion because it was that discussion in which I stated my thoughts- I chose the word “tried” to convey-not because I didnt think you understood but because I thought perhaps I could have stated it better.
As for our disagreement- we’ll have to agree to disagree – MILLIONS of children are victims of repeated child abuse and neglect, and even death- and their little skeletons do not show signs of trauma.
It is not different than murder or manslaughter- not if the jury read the instructions- The death penalty was in part brought forth because Caylee was a child under the age of 12 and because when child abuse is a factor in the death, then that would have fulfilled another burden, ALSO if the person who committed the crime was a caregiver or a person of trust ect, then that ALSo fit into the death penalty as a punishment- lastly if the crime was particularly atrocious or cruel then another step towards a punishment of the death penalty could have been made.
I understand that you feel that lack of trauma to the skeleton makes it easier to believe that it was an accident and then subsequent covering of the accident-
RESPECTFULLY- to me that does not fit- NO ONE covers up an accidental death and moves toward making it look like murder. NOT ONE Person after an accident of a beloved child- decides to forego calling 911- and instead lets someone else (especially a molesting father) take custody of her childs remains-ripping her from their arms-and then essentially secreting her body away, never telling what become of the child….
NOT one person who came across the accidental death of their child would rush off to hook-up with a boy she had just met- and rent disturbing movies of DEATH and body disposal-nor would they have a bed-in and show no concern or remorse or care for their beloved child who had just died in an ACCIDENT-each time someone asked about her…
I will NEVER agree that this jury did its job- they didnt look at one piece of evidence- those that have come forward have said as much- FTLOG, they put George on trial and decided c-words guilt or innocence based upon their dislike of George-and their IMAGINED doubt that it COULD have been somesort of accident-
What evidence was there to support an accident and cover-up? The opening statement? They were supposed to disregard it- The fact that there was a pool? The fact that a picture of a little girl was shown in front of the sliding glass door? The fact that Caylee liked to swim?
Why do you think she was neglectful in not reporting her missing, annetteaa1, according to the accident theory, the one you are touting, she was NEVER missing- she was dead.
As for her misleading police- I agree she did- but I think it is MORE plausible to believe she mislead them because she was guilty of childabuse neglect manslaughter or murder and disposal of her child- not because of some imagined accident, an excuse, mind you, that only came to light-after 3 years of pointing the finger at everyone and anyone- 3 years later- she and her defense run with this in the opening statements.
And the jury and you, it would seem, decides hmmm thats plausible- I’ll give this “amazing mother” the benefit of an imagined doubt-
despite the 31 days, despite the other excuses, despite the scientific evidence, despite the fact that this amazing mother lied at every opportunity, for years inorder to free herself from the mothering duties and go partying- lies designed to free up her time- yeah what an amazing mother…-
It could have happened just the way the defense said….yeah..and little Caylee could have been abducted by aliens….I wonder why they didnt run with that defense?
As for the grandparents not reporting her missing- SHE WASNT- their daughter- HER MOTHER, told them she was with her and that everything was fine- much like the last 3 years C-word had an excuse ready- if one stopped working, she gave them another- why fault them for believing C-word, annetteaa1 ? You seem to be just fine with giving her the benefit of the doubt- and you have the benefit of the sunshine law and hindsight ect….
The Gascans- for petes sake- the very thing that should help people understand that George WOULD HAVE reported an accident- is the very thing they fault him for- George was an ex police officer he made a report- he talked to his neighbors and warned them of the thief- SOMEONE was coming into his yard- and had broke the lock off- and stole things- and might return–
He would have reported an accidental drowning death of his granddaughter-
annetteaa1, I respect your right to your opinion, and I appreciate you sharing it with me, it helps me to try to see a different perspective- although I can see your perspective, and I respect it, I will never agree with it-
Sorry, about the overboiling emotion-
AJMO
Peace annetteaa1
nana2- thanks for your post- sadly I do think that this jury was ready to go home- and justice suffered.
AJMO
with all due respect Anne1, and being purposely redundant, who “covers up an accident”, absent of any contributing factors that would give cause for alarm, outside of the “accident” itself? At a very basic level, the following analogy would have locked me in to the neglect charge, at the very least:
For instance, my 7 year old wouldnt try to cover up the spilling of her milk at the dinner table, even if no one saw. She would ask for, and need help in cleaning it up properly, which she would receive. However, she may attempt to cover up spilling her milk on the living room floor. Why? Because she KNOWS she is not supposed to have a glass of milk in the living room.
IF(180 font), it was an “accident”, C*word*T attempted a “cover up”, because she was guilty of “something” that enabled the “accident” to happen. Pretty simple to understand.
In addition to the many fine comments regarding the unsubstantiated theory that there was an accidental drowning, there is the fact that neither George nor IT are qualified to determine death, dead, with no hope of being brought back to consciousness.
A person related a story here just the other day of a child resuscitated after being found in a pool…apparently dead. There are many such accounts. Miracles, if you will, but anyone who truly loves a child would call for help. If a child truly was found in a pool (and by the way, NEVER was there any description, on the bottom, floating??) it absolutely defies logic and reason beyond a doubt that 2 family members, one being the mother, would not call 911.
Yes, anything COULd have happened that caused Caylee’s death but the known facts support murder. At this point it’s moot….the jury ran from their duty to re examine the evidence to make a conclusion based on what was presented. They chose to believe an unsubstantiated fantasy or they simply “picked” the verdict that assured their release from duty as quickly as possible. They understood that their decision would not be challenged.
Replace last post with this, if you might.
Mom.30
You are 100% correct on seeing other’s perspectives… Your opinion helps me to see other thinking people’s thinking and perspective and I realize that is an important tool .
Example: the gas cans,.. same incident we think about it differently. Honestly, I never thought of it as you did and I hear you, and you explained to me how others view it. I will ponder it.
Me, I see the 6/24 incident as being something different. To me, George’s daughter stole gas from the cans in the past; he didn’t tell the police that fact. He had to have know or at least assumed it was his daughter who stole them, AGAIN. And some days later when he confronted her, she produced them.
To me, he called the police for some VERY twisted reasons, with the goal of to creating a police report, intentionally. I have guesses as to what these twisted reasons were, but it is all pure speculation. To me, he wanted to make it clear those cans WERE NOT in his possession, and be on the record about it.
There is no way he was afraid for his neighbors being broken into, he knew his daughter took them – no way or wanted to file a $10 insurance claim.
It makes him LOOK complicit in some small or maybe large way.. and sorry, it helps sell me reasonable doubt, along with a lot of other things he said and did. And if nothing else I think HE is guilty of covering up what happened ( along with his daughter)
I stand behind the jury, and continue to think it is wrong to fault any jury; I am an educated person, I have even served on a jury in a child abuse case ( shaken baby– she was found guilty ) and this case give me reasonable doubt, sorry. I don’t feel one has to be dumb or lazy to get to reasonable doubt in this case. It is not easy being on a jury and reasonable doubt is taken seriously and I think it was there.
@ pale rider says:
August 12, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Back at ya, sweets
To all you wonderful posters- thank you for stepping up to give your thoughts. It makes me feel better to know that you guys are in this world with me-
pale rider- thanks DITTO
TGF- Yes I think you are correct- Cindy and George’s behavior is/was wrong-
Sad thing is you’re probably right about the job situation- but we taxpayers will be footing their bill if they were unable to find jobs and/or profit from Caylee……
annetteaa1,
Hello again- I appreciate you taking the time to explain your thoughts and feelings- even more so that you did it twice LOL- dont feel bad there have been plenty of times when Blink has let my mistake posts through… even after I have begged to let them remain in moderation.J/k
First, let me start by saying that my gas can thoughts are mine and mine alone- I do not claim to speak for anyone else here on BOC- and to tell you the truth- that reasoning is not the only one that I have held.
We will never know the truth –
Stay with me for a minute- I agree with you that George is guilty of covering up-in order to help his daughter, NOT to help himself…
This behavior began the moment he and Cindy believed that their daughter was going to be held accountable for their granddaughters disappearance- and they went into protection mode-
The Anthonys ,AFTER their daughter was arrested, decided to do everything they could to paint their daughter and her behaviors in the best light- they did everything they could to poo poo away her lies and indifference ect. They altered their recollection of the 31 days, the whole June 9th, the trip to Universal the reasoning behind the 911 call and the myspace page, the last morning, and all the rest… they even went so far as to insert themselves as the doer of certain deeds- such as putting the dryer sheets in the death mobile ect.
BUT back on June 24th George Anthony did not know that his granddaughter was missing-
He did not know that his daughter was in town- and perhaps he did suspect that she took the cans- maybe he wanted to have proof and a record to begin to document her bad behaviors- if it turned out to be her, then he could possibly start to gain custody of Caylee- if it proved to be someoneelse, then it was still a good thing to report it- perhaps he felt making a report was the best way to document the theft- perhaps he decided that if his daughter did it- GGrandma was right- no more chances-
BUT wanting to proove your daughter is a liar and a theif is a far cry from believing she is capable of killing her baby- and it is a far cry from wanting to hold her accountable for theft and wanting to gain custody… to wanting her to die in prison and believing she murdered your sunshine.
Please KIM- that this f-ing gascan incident that supposedly took place…well it is a convenient way to show that the car didnt smell on June 24th- it is a convenient way to show that he never saw inside the trunk-it is a convenient way to show that the cans were not covered in the gory goo of his decomposing granddaughter…not to protect himself, but inorder to distance his daughter from the trunk and the smell and the remains-
Ask yourself why did George state- even at trial, that his daughter was surprised that he was home? Wouldnt she have seen his car? She successfully avoided the house when he and Cindy were present for weeks- I assume by keeping careful watch over the home-remember Amys depo where she details c-words drivebys on July the third?
I like Blink, believe that the gascan incident never took place or IF it did- it was during one of those other thieving incidences…you know, much like the chasing her down in Cindys car?
Respectfully annetteaa1, your theory of George making the report for “twisted” reasons with the ultimate goal of distancing himself from the cans and proving they werent in his possession, is not logical not in any way, shape or form…heres why…
George could never distance himself from the cans- they were his- next he was an ex-police officer- why on earth would a police officer believe that bringing the gascans to the attention of the police and filing an official report would distance himself from those cans? next- if he wanted to distance himself from those cans then simply throw them away- or recycle them or let the car be crushed with them inside-. Or let c-word keep them- and last but not least WHY would he want to distance himself from the cans? There was never any evidence on the cans- and according to the accident theory, the cans were never near a decomposing Caylee- remember?
The gascans were a red-herring and besides-if that was Georges goal- to distance himself from the cans he failed miserably-hell he even supposedly put THE ducttape on the cans-and the missing posters-
Heres what I believe happened- Caylee was in the trunk of her mothers car-DEAD- next to the the borrowed gascan- the ducttape was put on the can AFTER the cap was lost by the driver of that deathmobile-the ducttape was easily accessible because it too was borrowed from the home at the same time the trash bags were and the same time the laundry basket was and the same time that Caylee was wrapped in her blanket and thrown in the trunk to decompose PERIOD
I do not understand how the gascan incident leads you to jump to reasonable doubt over c-words guilt-
As for the questioning of the jury, as you already know -I do think it is our place to question any jurys findings- and I disagree that doing so is not respecting the system-I never called them dumb- and I never used the word lazy-
but IMO they opted for the easiest and quickest verdict that would lead to their own freedom-
again- ask yourself
Who is the ONLY person that UUDOUBTEDLY knew Caylee was dead?
Who is the only person that UNDOUBTEDLY lied about the whereabouts and wellbeing of Caylee?
Who is the only one that claimed to have talked to Caylee the VERY same day that she was reported missing? And brought up shoes?
Who never reported the disappearance?
Who is the only one that smelled the death mobile before July 15th??
Who is the only one that made excuses for that smell-BEFORE their was ever a reason to?
Who is the one that bought papertowels?
Who is the only one with access to Tonys trash? Who is the only one that put a dryer sheet in Tonys car?
Who is the only one that deleted countless pictures of Caylee?
Who is the only one that wistfully listened to that sevendust song?
Who is the one that wrote the diary of days?
Who is the only one that uploaded the pic of the hung teddy bear with that telling caption?
Who is the only one that uploaded that tupac quote?
Who is the only one that each and ever lie and omission is given only to protect themselves?
Who is the one that left the car behind-with her dead childs beloved babydoll inside and her backpack?
Who is the only one that borrowed a shovel?
Who is the only one that asked for one more day?
Who is the only one that immediately and for 31 days benefited from the death of Caylee Marie?
AJMO
Peace
ok how does my occasional bafoonary get dragged into this, lol?
The 2 most critical dates in the investigation George ended up giving Cword an alibis, AFTER he had given statements and not mentioning them, June 16 and June 24th. June 16th he has the always expandable last sighting of Caylee leaving the home alive, and on the 24th, the day Cword starts texting her car smells he now has her at the house, in the garage with the trunk open and sees the gas cans in the blue bin.
1. The gas can did not fit in the blue bin.
2. The night of the 23rd Tony is calling Cword while her phone is pinging at their pad.
No matter what one’s opinion is on the jury, their is one indisputable fact. They MISAPPLIED the law and jury instructions, period. Does that mean that they did not understand the scope of their deliberations? I believe that is true.
You are very gracious as usual to address what I believe to be someone that regardless of whatever facts you put in front of them, you will never change their mind because they are emotionally invested in it.
I am covering a case next week where I promise you, you will see the same phenom, tenfold.
I will acknowledge as I have for 3 years now, there were enough lies and behavior to implicate George, thus the problem with the strategy used by the prosecution. I don’t really see they had much choice though.
B
@ annettea1
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It makes him LOOK complicit in some small or maybe large way.. and sorry, it helps sell me reasonable doubt, along with a lot of other things he said and did. And if nothing else I think HE is guilty of covering up what happened ( along with his daughter)
You know why you believe this? Because you have NOT read the case against c word. Not a word. You are completely unfamiliar with the evidence and THAT is just not acceptable. You’ve completely familiarized yourself with the defense’s last minute embellishments and made up theories presented at the trial. Nothing supports their opening statement. NO THING! Not even the defense. How can you base reasonable doubt on….nothing?
Mom3.0, and BOC have weighed the facts, heavily, consciously, subconsciously. It’s been a tight group, involving detailed conversations to get to the truth of Caylee’s murder. Let’s just stop this b/c annettea1, you are now just stirring the pot. Mom3.0 has invested endless hours of her own personal time, next to Blink, to a point where she knows more about Caylee’s death than c word’s defense. She self educated herself on the system throughout these past 3 years. She’s gone through every thing made public AND was able to retain that information. You have no idea whom you’re up against. She’s been kind to entertain your posts….I think most of us have, but you’ve brought nothing to the table that hasn’t already been discussed, discredited and discarded. Please, acknowledge your insight to this case is based on bits and pieces. You’re thinking with your heart, not your head. Mom3.0 can act out the past 3 years, each role, every individual involved, verbatim. She’s modest and I suspect doesn’t give herself enough credit but her factual posts have been completely invaluable to BOC.
Enough.
Blink- thanks for sharing your wisdom with us-
Could you please refresh my memory concerning June the 23rd and the calls ect? and what you think it means?
Pretty please?
Tony was calling Cword cell phone repeatedly around 11PM ( please do not make me look this up, I am on my last leg in a new case, lol). Earlier that afternoon, she called him to break into the shed to get the gas cans. It is my personal opinion that that is the evening she dumped Caylee’s body and the phone was not with her because it had been shut off for non-pymt. She had been told that day that Cindy was going to be off and they were going to be doing some landscaping upgrades.
B
Ragdoll and Blink- I know annetteaa1 will probably never change her mind- but I enjoy debating so I welcome the discussion- but I do understand everyone just wanting me to shhhh.
Ragdoll thanks for your kind words-
Blink your occasional buffoonery keeps me on my toes and here, and laughing- so thanks LOL
IRT Georges being implicated- I agree his lies only helped get her off- but I do not see how any one could actually think that he had anything to do with the death or putting Caylees body in that trunk.
Dont you eva’ sssshhh.
B
I also agree that the prosecution played the hand that was dealt to them- how else could they have handled the Anthonys- IDK-
I sincerely hope that a family such as the Anthonys is an anomaly and not the usual – otherwise God help the justice system. I mean who would believe that the family could work so hard to obscure & NOT find the TRUTH? IDK…
AJMO