Morgan Harrington Murder: FBI, Metallica and Virginia State Police Ask You To Help Them Find Her Killer
Morgan
Reported exclusively on www.blinkoncrime.com, Morgan’s alleged attacker was tied via DNA to a sexual assault in Fairfax, VA in September 2005.
With the help of a multi media campaign, the FBI, Virginia State Police and Fairfax Police are asking for the publics help to catch her killer.
Metallica offered this public service announcement:
Metallica Statement On Harrington Case
FBI Press Release:
Authorities Launch Multimedia Campaign in Morgan Harrington Murder Case
Murder Suspect Linked by DNA to Sexual Assault in Fairfax City, Virginia
FBI Washington June 13, 2012 |
Today, federal, state, and local law enforcement launched a multimedia campaign that includes two enhanced composite sketches of a suspect in the 2009 murder of Virginia Tech student Morgan Harrington. The unknown murder suspect is also connected by DNA to a 2005 sexual assault in Fairfax City, Virginia.
Authorities recently enhanced the composite sketch created in 2005 from a description by the sexual assault victim. One of the composites shows the suspect with facial hair, as the suspect was described at the time of the attack. The second composite sketch features him without facial hair.
The two attacks were connected through DNA after a forensic profile was submitted by the Virginia Department of Forensic Science to the FBI’s national DNA database. The search found that the suspect in the Harrington murder investigation matched the DNA profile of the attacker in Fairfax City.
The multimedia campaign includes a public service announcement by Metallica lead guitarist James Hetfield appealing to the public to come forward with information concerning the Morgan Harrington investigation. The composite sketches of the suspect are being featured on bus shelters in Washington, D.C., as well as on digital billboards in Richmond, Virginia; Roanoke, Virginia; Washington, D.C.; and in 23 other states along the East Coast. Social media outreach and alerts via Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, along with a website dedicated to the Harrington case were also launched Wednesday. Podcasts are now available on iTunes, and radio spots are airing to further raise awareness of the ongoing investigation. The multi-pronged effort is designed to develop new leads and renew the public’s attention in the attacks. The campaign implements techniques similar to those that have led to the arrests of the East Coast Rapist as well as Ten Most Wanted fugitive James “Whitey” Bulger.
The Jefferson Area Crime Stoppers is offering a $100,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible for Morgan Harrington’s murder. In addition, the band Metallica is adding $50,000 to the reward, for a total of $150,000.
Morgan Harrington Murder
On the evening of Saturday, October 17, 2009, Harrington attended a Metallica concert at John Paul Jones Arena on the University of Virginia (UVA) campus in Charlottesville, Va. At approximately 8:30 p.m., she left the arena and was unable to re-enter the facility. She was last seen hitchhiking for a ride from passing traffic.
Harrington was dressed that night in a black T-shirt with the word “Pantera” spelled out in tan letters and was wearing a distinctive Swarovski crystal necklace made of large crystal chain links, which investigators have yet to recover. Harrington’s “Pantera” T-shirt was found on November 11, 2009, in front of a row of apartments along 15th Street, NW near Grady Avenue in Charlottesville. Harrington’s skeletal remains were later discovered on January 26, 2010, in a remote field on an Albemarle County, Virginia farm along Route 29. A camera that Harrington had in her possession that night has never been recovered.
Sexual Assault in Fairfax City, Virginia
On the evening of Saturday, September 24, 2005, a 26-year-old victim was walking home from the Giant Food Store located on the 3700 block of Jermantown Road in Fairfax City, Virginia. The suspect grabbed the victim from behind as she walked down Rock Garden Drive toward her residence. He then carried the victim to a grassy area behind a maintenance shed, where he sexually assaulted her. The suspect was last seen running from the area.
The suspect is described as an African-American male with black hair and facial hair at the time of the attack. He is approximately 6’0” tall and was believed to be between the ages of 25 and 35 years old at the time of the attack.
The public is asked to review this information and consider whether they know someone who generally fits this description, who lived or had ties to the area around the times of the assaults, or who may have been known to spend considerable amounts of time in those areas.
People who know the suspect may not believe that he is capable of committing these crimes. He may not necessarily have a violent criminal history. Because investigators are in possession of DNA evidence that can either positively link the suspect to his crimes or exclude innocent parties, citizens should not hesitate to provide information, even if it is just the name of a potential suspect.
The following agencies are cooperating in the investigation of these crimes: the Virginia State Police, City of Fairfax Police, University of Virginia Police, Charlottesville Police, Albemarle County Police, Albemarle County Commonwealth’s Attorney, Virginia Tech Police Department, George Mason Police Department, and the FBI.
Law enforcement agencies are asking anyone with information to contact the FBI at 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324) or the Virginia State Police Tip line at 434-352-3467.
Press Contacts:
Virginia State Police
(804) 263-5547
City of Fairfax Police Department
(703) 273-2889
FBI Richmond Field Office
(804) 261-1044
FBI Washington Field Office
(202) 278-3519
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It has been quiet as we all have been contemplating Raders words
I hope they reached the persons that needed to read them
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We all at first read the words & thought Rader may be speaking to a specific person -some thought the killer- some thought the shirt placer- some thought he was speaking directly to someone that is/was affiliated with “Sketch”
The letter was not blatantly obvious- nor was Raders interview but when taking both interview and letter into account I do believe it became obvious that Rader was not specifically talking to someone to the exclusion of anyone-
He was speaking to each and every person whether it be to Sketch or to someone that knows him… or to those responsible, or to a mere potential witness or a known witness that may not have been entirely forthcoming..or may not have been taken seriously and so on
He was speaking to everyone from those that may be responsible to those that simply have some piece of information that may prove to be helpful but has not surfaced yet
This witness may not have come forward or the witness may have felt they had a free pass or may have held back and only shared partial truths…
Was Rader speaking to witnesses and potential witnesses…Possible witnesses those like the band members who think they MAY have seen Morgan twice that night once at their gig and once while loading the truck…
They came forward early on but for whatever reason their account was overlooked- and they later came forward again- and then the FBI was said to be following up…
Potential witness accounts that never were taken or were never followed up on— those in the lots…those passing by the bridge….taxi drivers…limo drivers, late arriving friends…
were all the BBPs ever interviewed or are LE still relying on the accounts of “some”…
All the wedding guests, parents from that weekend… lots of concert goers, those who watched /witnessed the lot encounters…so many people- so many girls that looked like morgan…may have been Morgan…proved to be Morgan- have all those witnesses shared their stories or is LE still only relying on a couple?
Well those witnesses and potential witnesses- kickee, MV, NP so on.. they couldnt have been the only ones that saw the encounters most witnesses did not come forward on their own, those like the basketball players are there more people out there that fall into this category?
There were other people at that gig- did they never come forward?
They saw someone right?
NP saw someone right-?
The streets werent deserted before fathers second pass alone right?
Someone maybe alot of someones witnessed the BBP encounters, the curtsy duo encounter…the bridge walkings on both sides…
lots of potential witnesses still silent…or overlooked …
Are these potential witnesses following the case hoping their info was followed up on? are they hoping some other helpful citizen will step up to share the truth that they know- but havent shared or shared once but it wasnt enough to make it through the chatter?
Are these potential witnesses sitting at home or in the dorm, or away from college now- thinking no I dont need to come forward…
I am not even sure I saw her, or when I saw her she was fine or alone or___… so how could I help?…what could my possible account attribute to the case?
They already know ______________ no need for me to give a statement..even though they may not know all of it…someone will tell them in time….no need for me to be pulled into the fray…
Its only a matter of time before someone else comes forward with the info… its not that big of a deal…the info isnt going to solve the case….no need for me to come forward….
I dont want to be involved…I dont want to be pulled into the fray….surely some other person from that night will supply the information to LE… if it was Morgan, if its important, if it means anything, LE will find it all out eventually….
RADER said (pp) he was speaking to anyone and everyone who may know the truth that may be resting on the hope that the infomation they hold would find its way to LE through some other means -
Raders letter his message was for YOU
Please come forward-
snipped:
Referring to the person the letter was addressed to, Rader said, “If you are the person who has information that would lead to getting to the truth of what happened in October of 2009, you are the only one who can come forward with that truth. ”
“You’ll never be the same person if you have information and you can’t tell it so my point was tell the information so you can get your life back as well,” he stated. “The police can’t perform miracles all the time, they have to have help.”
Rader says he may not wear a badge anymore but as a human being, a father, a brother and a citizen, he has a civic responsibility to finally get this off his chest.
“I have a conscience as well. I have a conscience that you have to do the right thing even if it’s going to cause some friction,” he stated. “I feel a sense of need, something that needed to be done from a person not wearing a badge anymore because I believe when you are wearing a badge you do have to be careful for obvious reasons, but the fact that you are not wearing a badge does not absolve you from society.”
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Are YOU holding potential information?
Please – do the right thing.
AJMO
peace
Questioner
Hi nice to see you here -thanks for reading thru my post-
Congrats on your new profession Q- Stay safe out there. and I agree the Ldriver would have kept watching but he might have been distracted by some other happenings in the area…or he may have fell asleep …
Your post and others has me thinking…please excuse the length of this post as I am thinking as I type…
You wrote in part:
I can’t get the limo driver out of my mind, it’s like a haunting. He watched her with those BB players, so how long did he watch?
—Q- the limo drivers account is one I revisit over and over also if he/she is haunted by it then I guess we are too …
First this is another account that has never been “released” by LE specifically unlike father/daughter, curtsy duo, and ticket taker to mention some of the few…
The limo driver account:
Posted by: Hoo-80 on Thu Nov 12 2009 5:38:46 PM
Message:
but I can confirm this much. I have an employee that was parked
outside the JPJ all evening waiting for passengers. He saw a girl that
matched the description of Morgan, down to what she was wearing. He
also saw her interact outside the arena with 3 “very tall” black men, and
saw them walking together towards U-Hall. They passed right in front of
his vehicle. My employee has spoken to the police 3 times since that
evening about what he saw. This certainly doesn’t prove anything at all
relative to any UVA basketball players, but unfortunately it does give the
story some credibility. When my emplouee told me the story, my fisrt
thought was please,please,please, don’t let any basketball players be
involved in this.
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Now this account has Morgan walking toward uhaul with 3 very tall black men..
How can that be? The basketball players were said to have converged in the lot with Morgan who was said to have been alone in that lot around a vehicle seemingly getting ready to party with the SAME group of 4 white basketball players the BIB-
Remember the BBP were said to have exited by two different doors? The side door group was walking with “not with” Morgan.
Morgan walked in front of BK vehicle s then BK saw same group alone in lot – no mention of other BBP-
So if Limo driver saw Morgan with 3 very tall black men making their way to the uhaul lot- then what happened to the 4 white men? and then how did they then morph back into the 3 the limo D speaks of, only to morph back into “the same group” alone around a vehicle…then only to somehow converge in lot- and all be gone at 9:20?
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Something is wrong with all the witness accounts they do not corroborate each other when one takes a good long hard look at them- despite at first glance seeming to all add up-
You wrote:
The question in my mind back then and even now is, if he watched her with the players, and saw them all leave, then what did he do, just stop watching her?
Q,
We dont know if he continued to watch them – or if he was sidetracked by watching other concert goers or the other BBP from the front door group…
Which sighting came first?- which group of BBP was where and at what point? When exactly would Morgan have left for the bridge did they all leave by 9:20 then Did LD watch the curtsy encounter then loss interest- or did he witness Morgans bridge walk too?
Again what exactly were the “limited interactions” and with whom??
Were all witnesses interviewed or were they only interviewed thru staff or were only “some” identified then interviewed?
who interviewed them and when?
There were alot people not just the BBP in those areas – the lots & on Massie road- so many potential witnesses….
Remember Morgan was said to have dropped her cell along this trek and the dogs were said to follow her scent and corroborate the BBP accounts of the trek – the dropping of the phone, (which is assumed she lost the back)…to include walking up the slope/ grassy area- to the convergence area, which was said to be the lot….
so many people to catch a bored limo drivers attention…
Could it be that Morgan went back and forth along the trek moving between the two groups of BBP the side door group and the main entrance group?
Could that account for the BK account and then the limo drivers account?- we know the BKeepers accounts were for 9:00 and then the lot sighting at 9:15–
What time did limo drivers account take place? he would have to have a watch right? Could it be that the first group of side door BBP left by 9:20 or they simply were left behind by Morgan for a time and then Morgan went back to walk with the other group- or at least the 3 that the limo driver states he saw pass in front of his vehicle?
You wrote:
I ask myself what i would do on a cold dark night if I saw a young woman walking alone, then being left behind in a deserted parking lot devoid of people, dropping her purse, spilling the contents and walking aimlessly onto a bridge then back again to the empty lot. I know what I would do, so what exactly did he do?
–Q, I dont know what he did either but we do know it was his account that tipped LE off to the BBPlayers and we do know he was interviewed at least 3 times…and we do know that at the time, only some of those who interacted with Morgan were identified and we do know that only “some” of the BBP were said to have limited interactions and we do know that staff was the first to be interviewed or questioned in regards to the BBP interactions…
Earlier post w Blink response snip:
Brandie says:
November 13, 2009 at 2:48 am
If this question has already been submitted, I apologize. Is it known whether the b-ball players came forward on their own with the information of having interaction with Morgan that night?
It is my understanding that the tip about the interaction came from the limo driver, and then the UVA Police contacted the staff and from those interviews identified the gentlemen “interacting” with Morgan that evening. I am aware of their statements and not releasing that at this time as I have been asked not to. I can say they told LE they left the area at 9:20PM, Morgan was still there, and at the time of their statements LE had no reason to believe that they came back for her or had any further interaction. Beyond that, I have no idea what their status is in the ongoing investigation to find Morgan. I think we need to treat this for what it is, what we know at this time. This is the last verified sighting of a missing woman.
B
end snip
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So again I ask which account happened first? and if limo driver saw Morgan on a second pass walking with a different group of BBP what does that say for the timeline and the gone by 9:20?
Were they all interviewed or did “some” get a pass?- and if all were interviewed- how can they account for the two exits and the two groups walking with Morgan and then the convergence which happened in the lot.. if they converged there, then doesnt that mean that the first group as explained by BK still had to be there in the lot at that time alone?
How can we explain the differences in BK accounts of same group of 4 and Ldrivers accounts of 3 different players both groups walking with Morgan towards uhaul-??…… and who is corroborating whose accounts exactly?
Cuz unless they were all walking on one anothers heels which seems unlikely given BK and Ldrivers accounts, and the convergence place and the curtsy duos entrance into the timeline… something is off- the time estimates and their statements of when and how and who and what about all her behaviors and the “limited interactions” does not make sense….
When did that all happen?
Who was walking with Morgan “not with”, who was around the vehicle alone?…who was scared away by her behaviors?
Who was asked and who declined a ride and when?….when and with With whom did Morgan drop her cell and lose the back?
Who was with her and where was she, when the two groups of BBP converged in the lot, and who was gone when?
- in what order- in what vehicle -
all students, all those who interacted with her, were said to be gone at 9:20 enter curtsy duo….who had the rumored interactions all “limited” interactions were said to take place within a ten minute span- …then they left…
why didnt at least one of the groups come forward with their accounts?
Did curtsy duo come forward on their own or did the limo driver lead LE to them too?
Why did the limo driver have to lead LE to them–and why did UVAPD go through the staff and not to the witnesses directly?
When did VSP get a hold of them were all witnesses and all statements released to them??- and then did they follow up and speak directly to the potential witnesses?
IDK anything- but it seems LE is aware that definitely 7 players were in direct contact with Morgan right?-
How many BBP were in which group were these 7 the BK group and the limodrivers group all part of the side door group? if so then where did the they go bewtween the two accounts- where were the 3 for BKs accounts and where were the 4 for LD account?
and if LDriver was the person who led them to the BBP when exactly did they figure out the BIB were also BBP?
Did the limo driver lead them to the curtsy duo?
All these questions all these potential witnesses accounts but none seem to “fit” together perhaps that is why it took Blink 40 pages to cover the issues of the limo driver witness accounts/info which she said she recently sent to LE…
The civil suit will help clear up all these questions right?
But what if a witness, or a piece of the puzzle is still missing or what if it was mishandled or only given thru staff or “other” not directly by the witnesses themselves?
Again I return to Raders letter imploring anyone who has the truth, a piece of the puzzle, some piece of info from that night to come forward to tell the truth-
If the Limo driver and BK accounts proves anything- it is that many witnesses did not come forward and had to be pointed out by others and still it is confusing…the timeline is still confusing …
Who is telling half truths or little lies, who has some info they are still holding close to them that is eating away at their conscience?
Why would LE seem to distance themselves from Rader and his letter?
it all makes no sense….
why has his interview now disappeared?
I am gobsmacked as to the reasons
Please to whomever Rader was speaking to, and you know in your heart if the message was for you- please do not let this strangeness in any way stop you from doing the right thing-
Perhaps you have not come forward before because the truth- the truth of what YOU know- does not conform to the theory of what happened that night-
Please if you know the truth tell it- many from day one have been open to all possibilities many have not bought into any one theory or any one truth-
Most are still searching-
If you know the truth – despite the theories despite what the public or LE thinks they know know come forward and share it-
Rader says the info you have can be verified-
Be not afraid
The truth will set you free.
do the right thing–
let the truth be known, even if it causes friction-
Do the right thing-
AJMO Peace
Wanted to post this JUST in case. This man was just arrested for an attempted abduction at our local indoor mall of a two year old girl. This link has his picture. There are some similarities with Sketch, but not so sure and wanted others to take a look.
http://www.nbc29.com/story/20220612/arrest-made-in-attempted-abduction-at-fashion-square-mall
Concerned Mom.. That’s the closet likeness I think I’ve seen.. I mean I know we all want to always see similarities.. I googled him and found this http://its.virginia.edu/search/people/?u=jkk3r&n=James+Kevin+Key I’m curious if he worked at UVA in October of 2007.
The following statement from Albemarle Police following the arrest of the man in the attempted abduction at Fashion Square Mall contains far too much irony given the case that we’ve all been discussing on this site for the past 3 years, 1 month and 13 days:
“We received a number of tips after we released that picture, so that just shows how important it is for the partnership with the community. We rely on them, especially in a case like this. If we hadn’t had information from the public, we wouldn’t have been able to make an arrest.”
I just cannot get over LE’s response to Radar’s letter and interview. It makes absolutely no sense and I cannot wrap my head around it whatsoever.
Why does this case just keep getting stranger and stranger?
I have often wondered how long the limo driver watched Morgan. How long did the curtsey duo watch her? Human nature says they would watch a beautiful girl longer, until she was out of sight I would imagine.
How about that equipment, camera, devic? Didn’t is show the sight range from the limo to the parking lot? And the field to the lot? How long they could see her?. That’s why I asked the question the last time. I thought this new technology would have yeilded some answers. Maybe it did, and they’re not saying. Lt. Rader said he would use it for Morgans case, as I recall.
@Judi
Yes I am afraid something is rotten in Denmark!!
Bring on the civil case.
J4M!!
Zowwie Mom3.0, I love how your mind works. You are able to write as you think thoughts through. I think that’s why mine sometimes comes out in a jumbled mess, and I state things, and people go, “what did she say, and where did that come from?” LOL Anyway, we all know that the timeline just simply doesn’t work and never has. I think they gave a general timeline to get the point across to any potential witnesses, that Morgan was roaming the lot, and they wanted to give the public general info, which is why the timeline will NEVER make much sense to us who followed this case, were glued to this case for so long and are still to this day, intent on seeing justice be done for Morgan and family.
I’ve looked at the map of the JPJ arena and U-hall lot till my eyes bleed to try to figure out just where that Limo Driver had to be parked to have had an unobstructed view of the RV lot, the bridge, the track where the portapotties were, and the U-Hall lot. In some of the maps, buses are parked toward the end of the U-Hall lot across from the RV lot, and this was a Limo, so I’m just assuming, (hate to use that word), that he was parked there out of the way of people attempting to park for the concert, and out of the way until pick-up time of his customer.
Funny thing about us Taxi Drivers and Limo Drivers, we stay alert. We have to. We need to always be aware of the time, we need to be aware of what surrounds us, me in particular because I carry money around, and we can’t just relax and fall asleep. I’m sure there was much activity in all the lots, but, the activity that he was watching surrounding those BBP was something that he was damn aware of, aware enough to tell his customer about it. So, I’m certain he watched most everything that happened, remember the bookeeper said, “they were a conspicuous bunch”. Or something to that effect. So they were noticed by more than just the LD.
Yes, we need a clearer timeline, but I doubt we will get that any time soon, however, LD was questioned at least three times, so, he saw something, and LE wanted to know more. And let’s say the BBP all left the lots at the same time, which is ridiculous even on the surface, the LD could only see them pull out and the way they went. He couldn’t have seen far enough up onto the bridge to see Morgan toward the middle of the bridge, so he probably didn’t see anyone pick her up. And I do believe that someone stopped between the time father and daughter drove by and the exit of the BBP. On that point it would be more than useful for the public to have the EXACT timeline.
Did LD see the father, daughter duo, or the vehicle at least? He would have had to, but did he remember it? What time did LD leave with his customer? Again, very useful info. Why is LE still to this day, not giving out enough information to provide a truer timeline of those witnesses? And yes, he would have also had to have seen the curtsy duo, unless the LD had his customer in his car by that time and they had left themselves. I could go on and on.
And damn it why didn’t the BBP come forward themselves with info if there wasn’t a problem even in their own minds about the actions they all took that evening?
Judi – To go with what you said above, WHY IS JOE RADER BEING THROWN UNDER THE BUS BY HIS OWN? Yes indeed it’s strange, this entire thing has just gotten stranger and stranger and VSP don’t seem to care about the public, nor have I seen any caring about other women who may be in danger. There is still a preditor at large VSP! Where is he, who is he watching, who will capture his interest, what will he do to the NEXT GIRL, where will she be found, or will she?
I’ll get off my soapbox now, but it’s high damn time VSP give some information to the public so that the young women of Charlottesville are aware of what took place on Oct 17th 2009 and what they are doing to prevent that from EVER happening again!!
Hummingbird , yes , Something is rotten in Denmark . When things seem they just do not make sense , there can only be 1 reason & that reason is based upon lies.
Did she use someone else’s phone —— Did someone offer her a ride? Where and who did those thoughts come from? Does Lt. Radar think that that person knows more? Perhaps Lt. Radar thinks that person knows the “who” part and hasn’t been totally forthcoming about that?
YOU GUYS —— read “scared Monkeys.net”. VT and Metallica stuff about Morgan and her family. All good reads!
Does anyone think there could be a possibility Lt. Rader’s retirement had anything to do with this case?
Mercy me, I think I now understand….I’m going to pose a few questions to those of us who have followed this case very closely, and for a very long time. I would like to get some thoughts on those questions. Review in your minds back to soon after Morgan went missing. Try to remember all the witnesses who willingly came forward. Then re-read Joe Raders letter with those persons in mind.
Now the questions:
1. The 4 BIB walking across Massie Rd with Morgan. 4 young white males. Can and did the Bookeeper remember what those boys looked like? Hair color, height?
2. Could any of these young white males match the discription of the male arguing with Morgan, witnessed by Grandma?
3. Could any of these young white males match the discription given by a witness who mentioned seeing 3 young white males with a tall blond woman, matching Morgan’s discription on the Lawn at 3:45 on Sunday?
And might I add, this witness had attempted to make contact to tell the tale way back when and was seemingly ignored. Keep in mind the word “haunted”.
Add two and two together and what do we have? I’ll be interested to read the comments.
some random thoughts from me today:
seems like there is still plenty of turmoil within LE itself in this investigation.
there were lots of tips already. i’m wondering if there is a disagreement between investigators from different forces (UVAPD, ACPD, VSP) and/or a conflict with the prosecutor. might help explain the apparent infighting in the media.
are they just looking for a tip that would allow them to obtain a warrant?
whatever happened with that weird link to the limo business on google maps that had a photo and an address near AF?
Hi Blink, did I say something wrong? Sorry if I did. I just don’t yet see my last post showing up yet. Take care girl.
Nope, I would never censor you m’lady.
B
@Alexandra Dec 2 2012 10 38pm
Yes Alexandra I have often wondered exactly that. I have wondered about the possibility that Lt. Raders retirement had something to do with Morgans case. Mmmm…..
Oh God I wish , hope and pray some one will have the courage, heart and morality to come forward with some information about Morgans case.
it is time for the TRUTH to be told.
Remember , as hard as it may be the TRUTH will always set you free.
The truth will bring justice to this situation and help right all the wrongs in this world. We must try as human beings to step forward into the light, remembering we are all one, united, as we strive towards kindness, goodness and peace for all beings.
Namaste. J4M
Lt. Radar’s retirement? IDK
Lt. Rader’s letter imploys someone to come forward and help police …
VSP says, “No, you better not!”. (at least that’s the message I discern) ( especially if I had wanted to trust Lt. Radar’s message). VSP made it more than clear that Lt. Radar had no importance to them … So, now, what would you do if you were that witness?
Questioner may have something here. We’ve all been baffled about the beginning investigation and the select info put out …. and have stained to support LE’s handling of this case .. Well, now’s the time to embrace: “if it doesn’t make sense, it’s probably not true”. Way to much about this investigation doesn’t make sense!
deetee .. The limo company near AF ….. Wow.
(correction .. strained to support)
Rose – If I were that witness, I would be damned scared, because the first times that I tried to get my side of the story out, I was ignored by more than one. AND, in my thinking if that witness is who I think it may be, in reading the letter once again, I would also think that I was being told that I knew more than I really know. Either that or that witness knows much more than was told in reality. Like how did Morgan get to the Lawn? Did the witness see her get into a vehicle of one of the BIB? Was one of the BIB at the Lawn? I have much more on my mind that I dare not put into print right now.
Rose7 – it was very bizarre. i believe one of “us” posters found a link on google maps to a post of an online company listing for a limo service with location so near morgan’s final resting spot it was crazy. then there was the picture of a person supposed to be the limo co. owner that was in the neighborhood of sketch.
i looked for the posts today, including my own, but no dice. couldn’t find them or repeat the search results on google. i may be forgetting something though. there has to be tens of thousands of comments on morgan here on boc alone. i think it may have been LMN limo or something, etc.
anyone have more to add to help find the weirdness again?
@Rose7 and deetee,
I think that was somebody having some fun at our expense…I think Blink caught it and handled it…just from what I remember….
ahh, thank you Tango and Blink!
do you guys think that ,le knows the who and the why of the t shirt , placed on the bush?wouldnt there a public plea for the tshirt placer to come forward and tell le, where the tshirt was found? i dont care if morgan took it off herself, in the rv lot,and ran around in ber bra (which i am sure didnt happen -m.sutton) ,and dropped it, and someone random came along and found it .where that tshirt was originally found would be a CRUCIAL link to the crime scene ,and perpertrator,and timeline.so is lt rader talking to the tshirt placer.if not ,why not? i guess it would be because they know who and where there the tshirt placer got the t-shirt.
Susanm – Maybe he is talking to the t-shirt placer. Maybe the t-shirt placer is the same person who witnessed Morgan on the Lawn with the three young white boys. Do we know how far that witnesses paper route was? Was it up to 15th Street and Grady? I honestly hesitate to speculate on this angle, but every other angle has been talked about, and if I’m the only one that is wondering this, I’m sorry, but, something is amiss.
Perhaps Morgan was wearing the Metallica t-shirt the night this particular person saw her, and she dropped the Pantera t-shirt and it was picked up by the witness, and other than that I hesitate to speculate further.
I’ve always thought that perhaps the person who found the shirt might have more answers . Not accusing , just my thoughts. Think about it . If you were a kid , had been around something bad that happened , knew the shirt was still out there , maybe in the possession of the person or persons linked to finding it… could a young person have thought if he found the shirt & called it in that they would be off the hook , free & clear since they “just happened upon ” this evidence ?
I may be off base , but truly have to wonder.
@ alabamamom
Good point . that makes sense to me ….now how to encourage that person or those with added knowledge to come forward.
I cannot believe another Christmas is coming to pass and no answers for dear Morgans family or justice for our sweet shiny girl. Simply heartbreaking and so frustrating.. So much smoke and mirrors, the whole VSP distancing themselves from Radar etc. Something just stinks. Bring on the civil suit. Flush out some facts.
prayers to the Harringtons.
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Perhaps the CD have more to say…saw more, heard more, or were involved in some way. Did they come forward on their own?
@ questioner:
Then there’s the possibility that this “witness” Rader is beseeching to come forward is the young man Grandma saw arguing with Morgan (or Morgan lookalike). And if questioner is on the right track, this young man could be a BIB or a BBP. So here’s another question: did any of those BIBs/BBPs live on the lawn by any chance, where the athletes sometimes live? So they could have ended up at his residence. But haven’t we covered some of this ground before? And what would be the connection to Sketch? Relative, friend, or drug contact? Did the young man separate from her at some point during the early morning hours–did he leave her with Sketch…? Recall that Sketch’s clothing description (from N.Va. attack) was not “ghetto,” but light pants and a sweater. He might seem as normal and attractive as someone’s friend or brother or father or fellow student.
I think it’s entirely possible that Rader saw the police (including himself) as having blown it in the early stages of the investigation by not following up on certain leads and/or by making certain assumptions. Thus, he may not be a popular figure amongst his colleagues, particularly since coming forward with this letter.
AJMO, of course. Keep thinking everyone.
Why am I thinking Sketch is a UVA (or affiliate) employee? (Not a student.)
Because I have been throwing that out for years. He is. I mean was.
B
@ Hummingbird
Well said.
If there are bad feelings within LE, then the civil suit will bring them out into the light. May Morgan’s Estate ask all the right questions.
Could it be that nearly everything we have discussed has some truth to it? The fire @ Sutherland? NGFD? The LE misbehavior at Anchorage Farms? Exposing all the wrong doing? How could Morgan be in the middle of all that? IDK. Was Sketch a random psychopath just happened to be @ JPJ? IDK.
Justice is screaming for Morgan. Me three.
I don’t think Norma Parsons is the person who placed the t-shirt. As vocal as she’s been, why wouldn’t she tell that?
If I missed that accusation, I agree with you. No way.
B
Just over- tired rambling …. Her purse and contents leave her … She heads to some “helpful” authority, thus, the asking to use a phone and maybe a ride? Where did the “she may have used someone else’s phone” come from? “We need you to come forward”.
Questioner, if the lawn is back into play, what about the ‘debunked’ sighting at the convience store the next a.m.?
Blink, is Pantop out?
B,
Oh, I meant, above, why am I having a “gut instinct” (a hunch rather than a more rational belief) that this person is a UVA employee? I do appreciate that you have been saying that for years, of course. But maybe it IS rational: Sketch is too old to be a student but he has contact with students, and he is or was a local with strong knowledge of AF land. Perhaps this guy made contact with the couple (MH and companion) in the early morning hours because he knew the young man.
well,it was said by le: (paraphrasing just a little)” “its easy to get caught up in the tshirt, dont focus so much on the tshirt” , to me that’s just so strange,means it was found on campus ,and it too was placed off campus. but whoever made that tshirt show up, they did a huge favor cuz it revealed 2005 fairfax suspect,and shows SOMEONE did want to communicate something.
Weren’t the black leggins found at Pantops? The ones that were never retrieved by LE?
Rose – I think the thing that disturbs me most about the Lawn sighting is that no one, and I do mean NO ONE, seemed to pay any attention to what Norma Parson told them. Had SOMEONE in athority paid attention back when she told what she witnessed that night, she could have done a sketch of not only the person that she thought was Morgan, but also the boys that she saw with her. And even now, even after Norma was featured on Heavy Metal Mystery as far as we know, have ever asked her to do a sketch of the boys. Could she still do that? Yes, she knows what Morgan looks like now, so maybe that wouldn’t count for much, but very early on, had she been asked to do one, what might she have come up with that LE could have proven accurate, when Morgan’s body was finally located. Was Morgan found with or without those leggings? That is just one example. And if she wasn’t found with them, then by GOD, Norma was indeed accurate, but we don’t seem to be privy to that information.
There is so much more to this mystery, and part of the mystery that really bothers me, is that Norma’s story was that Morgan was coming out of one of the rooms with those boys, ON UVA PROPERTY. Is that the reason that her story wasn’t looked into more? Is it that UVA is so powerful and those who surround the University so powerful that they would ignore the fact that the last known sighting of a missing and murdered young woman was on UVA property? Me thinks that is completely right on the MONEY as it were.
Why is no one pushing for those sketches? Why is LE seemingly ignoring Norma Parson even to this very day?
And I don’t believe that the sighting at the convience store was Morgan, nor do I believe that she was near Pantop, however someone please prove me wrong, because this mystery has gone on long enough and the truth with set someone free, WHO WILL IT BE?
the Norma Parsons “sighting” seems to loom large these days. I recall from memory that Gil Harrington said, “she (Morgan) was dead before the concert was over.” (paraphrasing from memory of course). What may have been the basis for this statement? Norma Parsons held herself out to be an artist (of faces I believe). What was stopping her from sketching these people? I recall that her observation of the girl revealed that she was laughing and in no visible sign of distress. I think that Morgan was sufficiently impaired around 9:30 PM that she would be in no shape to be the person described by Parsons at approx. 3:30AM.
BTW, apparently, the people seen by Parsons were part of a wedding party (maybe from a common room rather than a students). There must have been many more witnesses to this crew other than Parsons.
just some of my recollections strictly from memory so I can be way off base.
Q. ……. Inexplicable with the sketches and Norma Parson. Would like to think she sketched them on her own and has them. Otherwise, too many other examples of “don’t look at the witnesses over there; look at the witnesses over here” …….. and the tights! They were reportedly seen and ‘ignored’ by LE. Why? “Don’t focus so much on the t-shirt” … Susanm. Why?
Alexandra … The tights were found over by the Observatory, I believe ….
Questioner, I think you have found a ‘path’ through obvious roadblocks to the real destination, Morgan’s murderer. Hopefully, this thing is finally coming together.
“29. Olivia says:
December 7, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Why am I thinking Sketch is a UVA (or affiliate) employee? (Not a student.)
Because I have been throwing that out for years. He is. I mean was.
B”
Blink, you sound like you have a specific individual in mind?
Alexandra…the tights in question were located near the road by Jefferson Park Ave…on the way down to Durty Nellie’s. Might not have been Morgan’s. Oh and they were leggings.
deetee…I saved the limo info but I’m not sure that should be rehashed. B?
As I recall is does not point , per se, but you are welcome to post J.Me
B
I am deleting a post from my friend and the very beautiful, smart and kind J.me because out of context it could be construed as an allegation to the individual, which it is not and I know that would never be her intention. (heart u)
As an overall statement, throughout this case, any leads to anything my team has developed has always and will continue to always go to VSP/FBI and since the Harrington’s civil suit filing, to them as well.
In my professional and personal opinion, there were at least 3 very strong profiles worthy of further scrutiny of african american males matching the description of sketch, access and/or direct ties to Fairfax and the UVA campus. None of them were students.
B
deetee…I saved the limo info but I’m not sure that should be rehashed. B?
As I recall is does not point , per se, but you are welcome to post J.Me
B
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thanks, J.Me, but i do not think it necessary. it sounded like someone was “screwing around” though i have to question someones motivation for that.
i have honestly have had a hard time ever moving away from the security/bailbond/firefighter group that are known acquaintances. the deeper we looked into this group, the more things seemed to add up. i found the totality of “coincidences” quite high.
Not going to happen and it already appeared here.
B
B…..I was joking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Well in that case it was funny. My bad on that one.
B
Concerned Mom might have it right. It seems to fits. The man who attempted to abduct the two-year-old at the mall lives 37 minutes from Anchorage Farm. It’s a drive he probably made often. Anchorage Farm Road not far from the back road to Palmyra. Looking at it on the map it seems like a really likely scenario.
They keep postponing his bond hearing/ stalling.
They won’t release him even though his DNA is not in CODIS yet. Are they adding it?
Do they automatically have access to his DNA because of his arrest and imprisonment?
I assume this is one of your three Blink – former UVA employees. I’d bet on this guy.
It’s haunting. Is he such a sexual pervert that he preys on all ages?
Amazing all those who are defending his actions in attempted kidnapping and shrugging it off as “seizure disorder”.
What the hell
Good call….thanks B!
Always m’lady.
B
Blink, i just noticed this at the end of your piece:
“The following agencies are cooperating in the investigation of these crimes: the Virginia State Police, City of Fairfax Police, University of Virginia Police, Charlottesville Police, Albemarle County Police, Albemarle County Commonwealth’s Attorney, Virginia Tech Police Department, George Mason Police Department, and the FBI.”
i don’t recall mention of GMPD before, but there has been a ton of details that we have sifted through in this case. was the Fairfax victim a student or was the location on campus? maybe i am bringing up old news, idk. seems worth asking about though.
dt
It had to do with a lead I provided very early on, iirc.
B
Well, I guess they have won …. Just wait out Morgan’s supporters, … and get off, scott free …. At least we made Morgan’s murderer (s) sweat longer than they ever expected.
So, is this it, Blink on Crime? Are we going to catch this murderer (s), or not?
I suppose we are all in shock from the Connecticut school murders yesterday. Apparently, 2012 has had more mass murder incidents and more fatalities than any previous years. There have been 62 in the U.S. in the last 30 years.
Check this out:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map