Kyron Horman Disappearance Series Part I: Desiree Young V Terri Horman- Civil As An Oxymoron
Civil As An Oxymoron
Desiree Young, Kyron’s biological mother and arguably the bravest soul in recent memory as far as the frantic and grieving mom’s of missing children’s set is concerned, believes her youngest son has been kidnapped by Terri Horman.
Or that she arranged for same by some unknown party and is demanding his location or the location of his remains.
Her recent civil suit filed by Eldon Rosenthal makes these direct allegations against the woman that by her own admission, she entrusted with the care of her toddler son in 2003.
Her suit is demanding $10 million dollars with a reservation to amend to include punitive damages later. The complaint is 5 pages long, or apparently $2million a page.
Last month a ruling by Judge Harry Kantor denying an abatement motion will allow the suit to proceed, for now.
The decision was widely seen as a win for Desiree Young in her tenacious quest to seek answers in the disappearance of her son Kyron from The Skyline School on June 4th, 2010. Headlines throughout the region and the evening talking head regulars praised the Judge’s decision for the Mom who has had no previous success in very public campaigns to engage Terri Horman’s cooperation in the investigation.
The legal community however, not so much. The decision to move the case forward relied largely on the fact that although it was patently clear from Ms. Young’s filing and subsequent public commentary by her and counsel Eldon Rosenthal that she alleges Horman has committed criminal acts resulting in the disappearance of Kyron Horman.
Terri Horman has neither been declared a suspect by police nor has she been indicted by a grand jury who continues to meet on the case.
Kaine Horman, Kyron’s father, learned about the suit filed by his former wife by a member of the media seeking comment on his reaction to it. He has not been made a party to the civil action although he was awarded primary physical custody of the couple’s son in March, 2004.
I count myself with the thousands that want this aggrieved Mother and Father to locate their child regardless of the outcome.
That said, it is ridiculous to think a woman whose criminal attorney has advised her not to respond to a twice- renewed restraining order precluding her from seeing her now 3 year old daughter is going to utter a syllable outside of assertion of her 5th amendment rights during any deposition she is compelled to participate in.
On June 4, 2010, Terri Horman, acting alone or in concert with others, intentionally kidnapped Kyron Horman from ; Skyline Elementary School. Kyron has not been seen or heard from by either of his parents since prior to Terri Horman taking Kyron to school that morning.
Did Not Miss The Memo
The Honorable Harry Kantor penned an accompanying order memorandum to his ruling following oral arguments on August 18th, It is worthy of the Honorable Belvin Perry’s stamp of approval- with the exception of course that is does not contain the phrase, “no earthly idea.”
It did however; contain the first ever direct statement that Terri Horman is a suspect in the investigation, a PRIME suspect, no less. In pertinent part:
“..The focus of the defendant’s motion is to stop the prosecution of this civil case while an ongoing active criminal investigation into both young Kyron Horman’s disappearance in 2010 and a murder-for-hire plot against Kyron’s father, Kaine Horman, is pending, so that the defendant (Terri Horman, Kyron’s step-mother and Kaine’s wife) is not required to decide whether to exercise her constitutional rights against self-incrimination under the United States and Oregon Constitutions before it is necessary to do so in any criminal prosecution which may follow the investigation. The plaintiff is Kyron ‘smother. The defendant is a prime suspect in the investigation …” (emphasis added by me)
Interestingly, Judge Kantor takes it upon himself to declare Terri Horman a prime suspect in BOTH the ongoing criminal investigations of a murder for hire plot and Kyron’s disappearance.
While it is a fair statement to say that both sides agree that Terri Horman is the subject or focus via “laser pointer” of the investigation into Kyron’s disappearance and her attorneys used that point to support abatement. At no time and in no document or filing has either side said Terri Horman was a prime suspect of anything? Where does Judge Kantor come by such information?
For his Honor to state his concern over tainting a jury pool, and then to allege, or divulge, as it were, that Terri Horman is a prime suspect in a murder for hire plot in an ongoing criminal investigation- is he privy to such information from some alternative source that is not contained on the record?
A request for any exparte information should be forthcoming. Where is the conversation with District Attorney Rod Underhill or his office read into the record? It has not been.
Lea Conner, Washington Family Attorney and BOC legal analyst sees Judge Kantor’s take differently:
“…The judge is not referring exclusively to the Desiree Young lawsuit.
Kaine Horman claimed in his TRO petition that law enforcement provided him with probable cause to believe that Terri Horman had attempted to hire someone to kill him.
He again made the same claim in papers filed after the TRO petition (specifically alleging that Terri was sexting the landscaper who she wanted to murder him, then allegedly sexted Michael Cook).
Kaine reiterated his allegations a third time in papers he filed last fall in response to Terri Horman’s motion for parenting time.
Kaine once again claimed Terri Horman tried to hire a hit man when he sought to renew the restraining order in 2011. There was an additional line added to the renewal, and though it sounded like something new, it was just Kaine reiterating the same allegations.
The Confrontation Clause of the Sixth Amendment applies to criminal matters, and it does not allow prior testimonial statements of witnesses to be admitted where the witness has since become unavailable. Crawford v. Washington, 541 U.S. 36 (2004).
Here, we are talking about a civil matter. The Confrontation Clause and the holding of Crawford do not apply to civil matters or other non-criminal proceedings…”
In Oregon, a special appearance is used by a party who wishes to vacate an unauthorized proceeding without consenting to jurisdiction of the court:
A “special appearance” is made by a party when he or his attorney seeks to obtain from the court an order vacating some proceeding which, it is insisted, has been undertaken by the adverse party in an unauthorized manner; such an appearance being thus limited to prevent conferring jurisdiction of the person. Again, Ms. Conner’s thoughts:
…” The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that the judge’s point was the last couple of pages that says Terri Horman’s lawyers cannot make any motion without appearing. This is to say that a special appearance allows a challenge as to the validity of a specific action, but it does not otherwise allow an attorney (nor a party) to file other types of motions or to seek other relief, as was done here.
The abatement that the attorneys sought would act as a protective order. Abatement is not a challenge to the propriety nor validity of the underlying action. As such, Terri Horman’s lawyers needed to appear before filing a motion as to the issue of abatement. ..”
Judge Kantor chose the teamwork approach in an adversarial proceeding, and instructed Terri Horman’s counsel they will need to file an appearance. He attempts to present the case’s challenges to both sides and seeks input as to how best to protect the rights of the defendant, in pertinent part:
The court does not have any particular length of time for this delay in mind at this juncture. lnstead, the court would like the parties and their lawyers to consult and confer about the following and then report back:
1. Should the court require the defendant to file an answer to the complaint which admits or denies the plaintiffs allegations or simply allow the defendant to litigate as if she denied those allegations? If so, by when and for how long?
2. Should the plaintiff be required to establish “reasonable suspicion” or “probable cause” (as defined in criminal cases) that the defendant has done what is alleged through other evidence before the defendant is required to answer oral or written deposition questions under oath?
3. Should the plaintiff be required to serve written deposition questions, which would be subject to court review upon proper motion, and review the answers before taking the defendant’s oral deposition?
Once the court has the parties’ answers to these questions, I will meet with the lawyers to form a schedule and plan for this case. Further briefing and hearings may be required as well.
Defacto Suspect Is Defacto Parent?
History is rife with hellacious stories of parents killing their own children, their own families, and ones parent status should not be considered a reason to exclude anyone. In fact, as we all know, it is 90% more likely that Kyron disappeared due to the actions of a parent or family member and all law enforcement investigators begin a parallel investigation of all with access or motive, from the start.
A hypotenuse only exists within a right triangle. This case is anything but.
Horman, through her attorneys has already certified she will protect her right not to incriminate herself and considering one of the remedies Ms. Young is seeking is that she does just that- who chaired the risk vs. reward strategy meeting in this case in its current form?
In Horman’s favor, Oregon law is one of few in the country that specifies that a jury cannot take the fact that she pleads the fifth and ostensibly cannot or is very limited in her ability to defend her case into its deliberation considerations.
Has Desiree Young been appropriately prepared for the litany of possibilities that might arise out of this filing?
Like, say, a counter suit or an effective defense resulting in a dismissal with prejudice? An award for Horman’s attorney fees ?
For the record, for those of you cringing while reading that remark, I cringed at writing it.
When someone files a purposefully vague claim against another accusing them of a criminal act (s) they will be beyond its tensile strength to support, many possibilities of alternative defense strategies become available to the DEFENDANT.
Ms. Young’s complaint made criminal accusations in a civil action that all agree parallel current criminal investigations. However, even if Horman was in a position to defend herself without violating her fifth amendment right, as it is written- the complaint is not even “answerable”.
“I believe we will be able to prove what happened in this case,”- Eldon Rosenthal
Oh? The preponderance of evidence limbo -stick notwithstanding, let’s be honest, it is going to be virtually impossible to prove Kyron was removed from the state with all parties including law enforcement openly stating they have no idea where he is or how he got there.
Outside of that conviction for first degree custodial interference which certainly seems unlikely because nobody is facing such a charge to date, the prima facie reverts to finding Terri Horman liable on the other counts in civil court.
According to legal analyst Bruce McCain, who has closely been following the Kyron case, the suit will be “near impossible to prove, especially when an element of second degree custodial interference is that Terri acted with the intent to hold Kyron permanently of for a protracted period of time.”
Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office has never even classified Kyron’s case as abduction and he is only listed as a missing person on the FBI’s site. Typically crimes need a crime scene, and the Skyline School has certainly never been declared one and astonishingly has not been named a party to this suit. More on that in part 2 of this series.
In summary, Desiree Young is making three allegations. She is claiming either on her own or with help, Terri kidnapped her son Kyron Horman from the Skyline School. Desiree’s own words contradict this claim as to kidnapping:
“She dropped him off that day, but that’s all we know.” – Desiree Young
Desiree is also claiming the intentional infliction of emotional distress through feigning ignorance of the events of June 4, 2010, lying to investigators and lying to the media. Not one quote, not one example is offered in support of this allegation. How can one possibly prove intentional infliction if such statements were never actually uttered to the plaintiff? How does lying to an investigator , if in fact she did, about unknown subject matter, equate to probable cause of the allegation?
What is it’s nexus directly to Desiree Young exactly? Not having the answer in place for that is going to spawn more than a few mutterings of “bad faith” at the bar meetings next month.
Tony Young has stated that as a collegial gesture, he was NOT given any information about the specifics in the investigation of Kyron’s disappearance and has publicly only said “If not Terri than who?”
Peter Bunch called the suit law enforcements stalking horse. Judge Kantor seems to agree with Bunch that due to the protection of the ongoing criminal case, that participation from any law enforcement personnel will be non-existent. Rosenthal seems to be more optimistic in his deuces tecum prowess, apparently.
Bruce McCain, could not be more on point. The burden to prove the allegations against Terri Horman rest squarely on her accuser. MCSO recently participated in the filming of Americas Most Wanted, and have spoken publicly about the case on numerous occasions. They have allegedly provided information directly to Desiree Young and Kaine Horman, which is now a matter of public record.
Deposing a law enforcement officer or twenty prior to the possible future criminal filing against your client with the knowledge none of the information has gleaned an indictment to date, is the equivalent to the key to the evidence locker of the case. Will it be a game of quash for all? Certainly, and Bunch has already said so.
“I have nothing to say about Terri Horman” Captain Jason Gates, MCSO
I have never seen Terri Horman give a recorded press interview. I am aware of no statute that exists to compel anyone to be honest with a member of the media on your doorstep seeking comment. ( although I might be in favor that as a card carrier- )
The scales of lady justice require balance for a reason. Glenn Close and Rose Byrne have already concluded the final season of Damages and I dare say those producers have more manufactured story line of fake criminal cases then this very real situation could deliver for fiction-even.
If Terri Horman, through counsel, decides to file for a dismissal of the suit, or defend it in PART- as it appears Judge Kantor has already laid the groundwork for, what should we expect?
You have to respect a judge who is coaching from the bench, and he did.
Technically speaking, under Oregon law, Terri Horman was Kyron Horman’s defacto or psychological parent. The “best interest” standard is a relatively low threshold in this case. Please see review courtesy of Kramer Associates regarding “After Troxel.” (link : http://www.kramer-associates.com/mkgrandparentsrightsaftertroxel.pdfKramer Associates)
I asked Atty Lea Conner to weigh in on this possible third party parent strategy to challenge standing of Ms. Young’s suit, as well as any impeachment or award matrix issues :
“…Third party custody issues are tricky in any case. You need to refer to Troxel v, Granville – Troxel is a US Supreme Court ruling that a parent’s rights trump those of third parties.- One Oregon case cited (Wilson v. Wilson) is particularly devastating to Terri Horman. In Wilson, the court found that custody must be awarded to the mother in order to preserve a sibling relationship between the natural child of the mother and the common child (AKA “joint child”) of both parties-
The Wilson case is interesting, because potentially, a parent contemplating divorce with contested custody might want to discourage the relationship between natural child of one party in order to prevent the natural parent from gaining an advantage in obtaining custody. Could Terri Horman argue that this was Kaine’s motive in sending James to live in Roseburg in early 2010? (Kaine denies sending James away, and claims that it was Terri’s fault that he moved. James and his father in Roseburg have made statements indicating James and Kaine had ongoing conflict, which contradicts Kaine’s version of events and supports Terri Horman’s claims.)”
The Troxel case has affected laws in virtually all of the states, and has significantly reduced previously recognized rights of grandparents, step-parents and psychological parents in favor of birth parents.
Why Terri Horman may be in a position to defend her relationship with Kyron, but not as a parent per se:
5. Wilson and Wilson, 184 Or App 212 (2002), CA A113524. Custody of stepchild awarded to stepfather, along with parties’ joint child, reversed. Under Troxel, custody of the mother’s natural child must be awarded to fit birth mother and because of the sibling relationship, custody of the parties’ joint child must also be awarded to mother. [See Case Note 20 discussion below for Court of Appeals decision on remand from Supreme Court.]
Interestingly, I note that nobody brought up the fact that Desiree once accused Kaine Horman of at least the possibility that he was capable of kidnapping her sons, and was granted a restraining order based on the potential recognized by the court in a similar possible offense.
“.. our Lives are no longer private. Investigators are going to want very detailed information of our personal lives..” Tony Young, Kyron Horman’s stepfather.
What will absolutely add insult to injury in this case will be the fact that in order to indirectly defend Terri Horman, her lawyers will need to vilify Desiree young in front of a jury. They will have to remove the more than deserving, grieving and egregiously wronged Mother’s invisible halo, and they have enough to work with. There is no way around it as unfair as it seems, it is what it is.
EDIT NOTE: In August 1995 a woman with the same name as Desiree Davidson was living with a man who was a convicted felon and the target of more than a few secret indictments a few years earlier. She filed a Family Abuse Protection Complaint against him for assault and he was arrested on a separate felony charge a week later. David Roy Davis may be connected to an entirely different Desiree, but the record came through on a search under Ms. Young’s date of birth as well. The point is, their will be lots of digging on everyone.
In March of 2004, Desiree Young claimed that serious liver problems from an undisclosed, non- FDA approved medicine required her to move to Canada for treatment. She relinquished physical custody of both her sons under the guise that she would not be required to now pay child support as filed in the stipulations of the respective cases. Ms. Young maintained a Seattle, WA address at that time and the last custody order states a very different custody arrangement than what Desiree has mentioned publicly.
If she was seeing Kyron more than once a month, then it was by verbal agreement with Kaine’s approval but this is yet again an unfortunate example of impeachment possibility. The “seeking treatment “details will unfortunately be public information that she has refused to discuss. You get the idea.
Desiree has also admitted asking Kaine to consider modifying the custody arrangement and allowing Kyron to go live with her. Kaine said no and would not discuss it further, but Terri Horman was in favor of it.
Both Desiree and Kaine have conceded Kyron had a few issues of concern in school the prior part of the year, in fact they went so far as to say they were concerned their reaction to it with him might have played a part in his disappearance.
How is it that if having issues at school can be a helpful argument to a non-custodial parent seeking custody modification that nobody considered that Terri was actually working to support Desiree’s possible case?
Kaine has confirmed that they had a discussion about a doctor appointment for Kyron, so this possibility has corroboration.
For the past 2+ years Desiree Young has done everything conceivable to progress answers in the disappearance of her son and I applaud her for that. I am equally as concerned about the emotional toll this lawsuit will take on her as I have been about the effects of the loss of her son.
Catch as Catch Can
Omitted entirely in any coverage of Judge Kantor’s order and memo announcement or previous reactions to the civil filings, is the fact that if Terri Horman is or was involved in the disappearance of Kyron Horman, she is about to get a front row seat to the case against her without saying a word.
Under current criminal procedure in Oregon, once a person is indicted, the defendant receives little more than the actual indictment order. This is usually under seal until an arrest warrant is executed, but it does not contain witnesses, testimony, evidence or any hint at the content that was discussed since the grand jury began reviewing the case and the triers of fact rendered a verdict to indict the party.
In this parallel discovery minefield, arguably tantamount to a mock trial in front of a defacto suspect, the plaintiff will be forced to compel witnesses that have testified before the grand jury, any evidence they have been made aware of, and in some cases they have not, and all of this essentially erodes the sanctity of the grand jury advantage over a criminal defendant. In particular, Oregon uses the grand jury proceeding as many other states use a preliminary hearing. And btw, this is Stephen Houze’s dominion.
While Bunch’s motion for abatement indicates police will refuse to turn over documents or materials pointing to guilt or exculpation, they simply cannot assist the plaintiff without assisting the defense as the discovery is reciprocal across the board. That said, I would expect District Attorney Rod Underhill to seek protection orders against releasing any information classified as part of the case file of an active criminal investigation.
How will that work if the majority of information is clearly being conveyed in an ad hoc method of “you can refer to it in your filings but we will not produce it for your use at a civil trial?”
The reality is that if Terri Horman is involved in the disappearance of Kyron Horman in any capacity this suit as it is structured in the instant matter will do more to assist her defense team than it will ever produce incriminating and usable intelligence to indict her.
It will not provide any detail as to Ky’s whereabouts that MCSO does not already know.
I can hear the protagonists in my ear already- but the scope of criminal subpoena power and reach is intensely more narrow than that of the civil standard so won’t this be an opportunity to glean information LE did not have access to?
Who in their right mind believes that nine multi-disciplined Federal and State Law Enforcement Agencies including those tasked with measures and responsibility of our National Security did not or do not have access to every shred of data a civil order can produce?
The Honorable Judge Kantor requested a position by the District Attorney and invited Underhill to attend the hearing, whereby DA Underhill stated he had no position on the matter.
Kantor is allowing the case to move forward absent an indictment or an official position from the DA, but I predict that is a temporary decision. The DA and MCSO is absolutely going to have a position when the motions to compel discovery arrive by the wheelbarrow followed closely by the freightliner full of FOIA requests. Once it is released for a civil trial it is releasable to the public.
What- No Joinder?
Lastly, as Kyron’s Father, it is odd that Kaine Horman would not be a party to this action. If the goal was a behind the scenes tag team to exhaust the funds of Terri Horman over simultaneous cases I sincerely hope that a considerable amount of time was spent on the possibility that they may be waking the sleeping giant. Desiree Young has an online donation site soliciting funds for her legal fees which injury cases are usually taken on a contingency basis and Kaine Horman has everything to gain by not dividing his assets with his estranged wife in November, when the abatement is lifted.
The fact that a recently retired Civil Attorney who has international homes is willing to come out of retirement to take this case would make me very nervous. Mark H. Wagner signed on yesterday.
If Terri Horman has nothing to hide as it relates to Kyron’s disappearance, this is her one shot to get her life back and clear her name.
The public pendulum will never be swinging so slowly to hear from her why it should stop- as it is right now.
If she was involved, in any way, this civil case is going to unearth the unintentional mistakes and snafus of the well meaning mean and women in law enforcement who have worked this case. It will render it nearly impossible to ever prosecute her successfully whether Kyron is ever located or not. This legal team will have at least 3 plausible alternative suspects, have the jury blaming law enforcement and believing Kyron is alive somewhere and may be better off.
Don’t shoot the messenger.
It may give a grief-stricken Mother a $10 Million judgment she can never collect, but as Peter Bunch said in his argument, it will not give her the answers she seeks.
I terrified my interrogation subjects, but I never got intelligence.
Astute. True. Maddening for all that are interested in this case but of course begs the question-
If tortboarding will not work, at some point, does it make sense to start over with a fresh perspective of elimination versus inclusion?
Terri Horman was the immediate suspect in a disappearance and an alleged murder for hire plot where there are gads of comments and facebook images of a happy family and very alive target- Kaine Horman.
When confronted by her alleged accomplice, Rodolpho “Rudy” Sanchez directly in a failed sting rivaling RENO 911- she actually called 911.
The sting was heard by more than a few scanner enthusiasts, as reported exclusively by BOC(insert link)
Why was it decided Terri Horman was the mariticidic filicide in a flash?
And why were all other avenues excluded almost as quickly as Jung opened the window for the scarab?
Coming Soon- Part 2
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@Venetia. Over to you, Nel Mel and others. Isn’t over til it’s over.
I don’t understand the importance friends of jonesr getting Dede’s isp because if she sent him an email how hard is that? But why would he want it and what would he do with it anyway? Because he’s not the Admin of FBs, or is he?
I heard at a ceu what I always believed or acted on FB amins have the capacity now to not only know yr isp but
also have your profile (real name, addr, etc). Idk if that’s true or not or if it’s an addon or extra purchase program.
What can he know about her if he hasn’t been to OR since 6? I hope beejay is out there churning through the contractees once removed as well as Elsy & kids.
I hope this month to see divorce/custody resolved to get issues out of way.
But if it settles without trial, mental health exam, etc, what did LE get out of the mfh and divorce entanglement? Maybe they figured in the last 2 years how that would play out, thus moved their knight to civil action no. 2.
@erose. Holm looked very different in that
2010 interview clip than in Oct ’11 mug.
Latter was ematiated in comparison.
So I wondered if series of DUIs began
after Cat’s unfortunate death in 2009 or after June 2010?
I saw one also in Feb 2011 but didn’t see first one.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/donations_top_85000_for_kyron.html?mobRedir=false
midway down.
I previously missed this: “Pyper MacFarland’s childREN say Kyron at the SF shortly before he disappeared.”
Bet a number of kids saw Kyron.
BTW Unless it went from Kurtis’ lips direct to LE ears early
on w/o mommy mediating, I feel we cannot know Kurtis thought Kyron went to the doctor.
Terri perhaps told Kim the bowling day, or whenever, she was getting the ped to see him.
Maube this was just Kim ‘s storyline.
@Rose
(snipped) “BTW Unless it went from Kurtis’ lips direct to LE ears early
on w/o mommy mediating, I feel we cannot know Kurtis thought Kyron went to the doctor.
Terri perhaps told Kim the bowling day, or whenever, she was getting the ped to see him.
Maube this was just Kim ‘s storyline.”
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“Kim Holm’s son, Kurtis, who Terri Horman photographed with his science project around the time she took a picture of Kyron that morning, said her son knew about the appointment too.”
“And the teacher said, ‘I thought he left with his mom,’ because they thought they had a doctor appointment,” Holm said. “And then at lunchtime, Kurtis ate lunch with him every day, he wasn’t there at lunchtime. And then I got a call at 4:30ish, saying he didn’t get off the bus, I guess. And Kurtis said, ‘Oh yeah, I knew he was already gone all day Mom.’”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html
Holm DUI arrests: Feb 2011, April 2011, & Oct 2011. Hard to believe there were others before Feb. judging by the sentence, looks like a first offense, but who knows.
Holm, Kimberly Ann, 50, Portland, $850, 2 days, DUI. (Langsdorf, Feb. 1)
http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/feb/05/02-05-vitals/
April 14, 2011
http://pdxmugshots.com/mug/kimberly-ann-holm
Lea Conner says:
April 21, 2011 at 9:16 pm
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Here are a couple of docket notations of interest:
Oregon State Of/Holm Kimberly Ann Multnomah 6/22/11 1:30 DISP DUII SUPERVISION PGM 110342211 Hearing Further Proceedings
Oregon State Of/Holm Kimberly Ann Multnomah 6/22/11 1:30 DISP DUII SUPERVISION PGM 101152725 Hearing Further Proceedings
Oregon State Of/Holm Kimberly Ann Multnomah 6/22/11 1:30 DISP DUII SUPERVISION PGM Z1744625 Hearing Further Proceedings
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/
Name: Holm, Kimberly
Age: 50
Gender: Female
Race: White
Height: 5 ft 4 in
Weight: 125 lbs
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Blue
Arresting Agency: Portland Criminal Court
Arrest Date: 10/4/2011 12:10 PM
Booking Date: 10/4/2011 5:09 PM
Current Status: In Custody
Assigned Facility: MCIJ
Projected Release Date: Unknown
Citation No. Z1744625
Court Case No. 101152725 DA Case No. 2205821
Court Case No. 110342211 DA Case No. 2213003
(won’t post link)
Other than rescuing kittens and selling bracelets, I thought well of McFarland, until I read this:
Re: Pyper McFarland (Henley High School)
Her son was probably the other person in the truck the morning of the science fair, he was very jealous of Kyron. Little liar covering for Terri.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1i7CEVbvSogJ:www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Terri-Horman-162949456.html+pyper+mcfarland&cd=31&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
My question is if McFarlands “opinion” was the skuttlebutt at the bracelet table.
I find it hard to believe Terri and Kim were all that great friends
Maybe after Cat died Kim needed some one to talk to
Her life appears to turned bad after Cat
Everything out of control
If you are close to some one do you say I let my son go bowling because I thought they were a
Good family and trusted them
This is not her exact words but close to what she said in my memory
Why not say Terri was my close friend if that was the case
And I trusted her
My sisters took a grandparents last name after devorce
I took a grandmothers first name
Return to roots
I think Terri will go back to Moulton
I could be wrong
Frankly I hate it that us gals have to take another name
When we marry. Just my feeling about that then comes a devorce
And you are stuck with some other family name
Back to roots is what I think
@ Rose says: October 30, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Interesting article Rose, I’ve never read this one before. I agree, that many kids/adults saw Kyron before he went missing. It is hard to believe they continue to be quiet about it though. Add MacFarland children to the list.
This whole article Lea Connor wrote is worth another read with wiser eyes, at least for me. Anyway, back to James. He left February 5, 2010, 40 days after the 911 call, the day after Christmas. I expect Ms. Connor has an idea as to the nature of the call, as she states Mr. Horman would not like any of the info being released. Hard to think something about that call was not the impetus for his departure. MOO.
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Peter Bunch’s statements at the prior court hearing referencing a December 26 call to 9-1-1 also suggests that maybe something happened the day after Christmas 2009. The implication is that Mr. Bunch intends to discuss that December 26 9-1-1 call in more detail. Don’t expect Mr. Horman to like any of it.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/29/kyron-horman-case-update-blinkoncrime-com-legal-analyst-lea-conner-weighs-in/#more-4741
@ Rose – 10-30-12 at 11:20 pm
I, also, did not see this article. So, there are more witnesses who can put Kyron at the Skyline School Science Fair that morning than we know about. I’m sure those folks want to protect their children. But, who and what are they protecting themselves from? Obviously, no one wants their child front and center in a criminal investigation, but geez, it would be great if the press had stated that “several” children saw Kyron shortly before he disappeared.
He is a moonbat. Pay no attention.
B
I have a question. A recent OLive commenter said it was the log in records that were erased from PPS system.
Does anyone know if it specifically were system log ins from the school that day that were “lost”?
If so would that erasure have happened at District level?
Did same occur at other schools?
Seems to me relevance would be if someone logged in from his Skyline computer if not on the List, documenting he was there.
Or, log ins to iffy sites from the school were searched for & erased.!
@erose 10/31/12 at 1:02am
Is that a direct quote from Pyper M regarding (James)?
I would like to know who spent Christmas, 2009 at the Horman home if any family member(s) stayed overnight. Possibly TMH pictures from FB would give a clue. James was sent away soon thereafter and, then Kyron disappeared, within six months.
Apparently, both boys were having difficulties in focusing.
KH’s familial paternal sexual abuse history combined with a controlling personality gives me pause in this regard.
I can’t let this go. DY filed for and was granted an RO against KH stating that she feared he would remove the children from the home. Does she not think this way about KH now and if not, why?
caution: I have never been able to verify that restraining order quoted by Pitkin.
B
@Lyla. thank you for link & quote. the issue: Kim said it to media, not her son. We have no record from MCSO press conf that Kurtis said it independently to LE. To me, the Kim who said that on TV has zero credibility.
One has to wonder why her figurative crackup began not after husband ‘s death but Kyron’s abduction as far as arrests document.
@erose. one has to wonder then if McFarland son was a Villareal son friend.
I keep thinking, if SZ profile is true, what implications for investigation?
about the computer piece and
the “maybe dated someone in community” piece.
(PS please ignore my ! showing after paragraph .
Something new iphone os randomly does &
I dont always catch.)
I must be out of the loop. Who is Pyper McFarland and how is she (he?) connected to this case?
@erose says: October 31, 2012 at 1:02 am
Other than rescuing kittens and selling bracelets, I thought well of McFarland, until I read this:
Re: Pyper McFarland (Henley High School)
Her son was probably the other person in the truck the morning of the science fair, he was very jealous of Kyron. Little liar covering for Terri.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1i7CEVbvSogJ:www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Terri-Horman-162949456.html+pyper+mcfarland&cd=31&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
I remember reading that article, though I was mostly looking at the dollars and cents that had been being raised. What I didn’t see the first time around was this:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/donations_top_85000_for_kyron.html?mobRedir=false
“When we heard that this was his favorite place to come, it was easy for us to make that decision to do the birthday here,” Darren Harmon, general manager of the Wilsonville Family Fun Center and Bullwinkle’s Restaurant.
The event raised $1,500 for the Kyron Horman Foundation. “They just needed to have some funds available to keep his name out there,” Harmon said.
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Is there a connection to Darren Harmon from any other Harmon we’ve looked at before? I recall reading early on that one of the pizza places’ managers was being interviewed by LE. I was wondering why that was, it’s not like Kyron disappeared from there. Have to go see if I can find that article to see which place it was.
Looking for the article I can’t find I came across this, which I’ve don’t remember seeing: (published June 6)
Even in Sunday’s rain students came by the car load to answer questions from authorities. Andrew Delzell was one of the students interviewed; he and Kyron are in the same math class.
“He doesn’t seem like the person that would want to run away,” Delzell told KATU Reporter Adam Ghassemi. “He’s a nice kid. He plays with his friends a lot. I’m not sure if he’d ever run away.”
Delzell’s mother, Kris Delzell, also was at Friday’s crowded science fair.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/95734359.html
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Kyron was in a separate math class? I was under the impression that Porter was Kyron’s only teacher? Who was their math teacher, anyone know?
Regarding the name change, there could be another potential scenario, imo.
TH may have wanted the Hman name but KH said no.
In this scenario I can see the potential to be emotionally crushed,
especially after, what, 7(?) years together as a family.
The timing of such a hypothetical would be interesting if it hypothetically occurred around or just before the alleged attempted solicitation for “m”.
Here’s the article I was referring to, it’s apparently no longer available at the Wilsonville Spokesman site: (Thanks to SM for preserving it.)
(snipped)
“We’re just hosting it and offering a special deal,” said Fun Center representative Melissa McLean. “But there are other things that are going on, like a cake celebration and a child safety course. When he went missing, the FBI came down and interviewd our GM, and they questioned him and that’s when we found out it was one of his favorite places.”
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8465.900;wap2
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This was an article from September 2010, but what intrigued me was that this woman says that “when he went missing, the FBI came down”. This sounds like it was very soon after Kyron had gone missing. Why would they go there? How does this work, does the FBI say to the family *what are Ky’s most favorite places*? Kyron loved sushi, did they go question the sushi restaurants too? I just found it odd that the GM would be questioned, unless he/she somehow personally knew Kyron and/or they were looking at some other tip about that place. IDK.
Don’t know any of those people, so don’t know how they interact or have done so in the past (timing of various things, added to the timeline for Kyron’s disappearance just makes one wonder) — but here’s a thought FWIW: AV and Piper’s son – the one who was so jealous of Kyron — what if they acted on their feelings — maybe mom/Kim and mom/Piper(or Piper’s son – don’t know his name) found out and will NOT give up her son, or suspects him/them and won’t do more (family, etc…)
Too much to handle and then Kim starts drinking more and more. Maybe (MOO, MOO) she and son or stepson AV found out something about TMH and the nice Cat and it was more than they could deal with, especially the son – who with his pal – might have decided Kyron would be good to go after/bully, and maybe something just went terribly wrong (maybe Kyron just annoyed them – people sometimes don’t need much of a motive). But with Kyron missing all this time, it just seems like people only want to cover their own behinders.
As I said, I don’t know any of those people, so this is total speculation. That said, until Kyron is found and brought home, anything should be fair game.
Blink, if this is sounding too hostile or hurtful to any of the “cast of characters”, you can delete it. Thanks.
@Rose says: October 31, 2012 at 11:37 am
@Lyla. Kim . . . .
One has to wonder why her figurative crackup began not after husband ‘s death but Kyron’s abduction as far as arrests document.
@erose. one has to wonder then if McFarland son was a Villareal son friend.
Just to add to the name change scenarios, fwiw, I don’t recall (though definitely could have missed it) KH saying “my stepson” but do recall KH saying “her(TH’s) son” in media interviews.
Could show a distancing after, prior, or both to Kyron’s disappearance
. . . or not.
Well, I just looked at that link, too, and this is what popped out:
“That sentiment — to do something on behalf of a youngster whose sweet bespectacled face and mysterious disappearance have captivated people from as far away as Stockholm and Hong Kong– has prompted more than $85,500 in contributions since Kyron went missing June 4.”
Is it already determined that “Stockholm” doesn’t have any connection to the guy who wrote that long, winding “book” where Kyron’s name was changed?
(same article also mentions McFarland)
@T. Ruth says: October 31, 2012 at 11:55 am
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/donations_top_85000_for_kyron.html?mobRedir=false
$85K for a non-profit ramps up certain reportings. Is it as interesting to others that KH can raise that sort of cash and a legal fund for DY specified as such is yielding very different results?
B
@Rose
That was prolly me on Olive referring to it. It’s an issue that I think is VERY important. Why do the reporters not follow up on this stuff. Geez
“During the investigation of the other potential persons of interest, the team realized that some evidence — namely phone records and computer log-on information from Skyline School the day Kyron went missing — were not kept by the school district as the sheriff’s office didn’t request the preservation of those records.”
From “task force disbands”…Olive (i’ll get the link)
@Rose
Here it is.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/06/kyron_horman_task_force_to_dis.html
Notice that later in the article it says that MCSO did obtain “other” information from Skyline via a search warrant.
But Dede can be asked if she is bisexual, and Staton can’t be asked when that search warrent was written?
Should be a question from Wagner to Keefer, then?
@Rose
I hope this month to see divorce/custody resolved to get issues out of way.
But if it settles without trial, mental health exam, etc, what did LE get out of the mfh and divorce entanglement? Maybe they figured in the last 2 years how that would play out, thus moved their knight to civil action no. 2.
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I just don’t know how it can settle, Rose. Without LE having to prove the 2 r/o allocations would TMH settle and have no custody? I don’t know if you all have ever seen or discussed this document, but I went to the courthouse and found a document with the transcript of the latest R/O renewal. I’d always thought that Judge M did know what LE had for probable cause, and was abating based on that. But this record shows he doesn’t have access to LE’s “proof” nor does he believe that Kaine must prove a darn thing. It’s discouraging, because without reciprical evidence (911 calls, depo of rudy, all those pieces that “jeapordize the integrity” how can it ever be proven that Rudy is lying, that students saw Kyron, etc.
vw- I edited you on that last part. You may want to re-think that.
B
@Malty
(snipped) “Frankly I hate it that us gals have to take another name”
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In Oregon you can sign paperwork to keep your last name.
@ Redrose Oct 31, 11:43
I think this comment poster was referring to James.
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@ Redrose
“Re: Pyper McFarland (Henley High School)
Her son was probably the other person in the truck the morning of the science fair, he was very jealous of Kyron. Little liar covering for Terri.”
January says:
October 31, 2012 at 4:37 pm
@ Redrose Oct 31, 11:43
I think this comment poster was referring to James.
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I agree the remark was made towards James and I think it is very base and ridiculous.
@RedRose
Per your article. And thanks!!!
I knew I remembered correctly:
“Reward: A total of $50,000 was pledged anonymously for information leading to an arrest and conviction in the case. Desiree Young, Kyron’s mother, last week said she hoped donors could raise the reward to at least $350,000 — an amount mentioned in court papers that Kyron’s stepmother Terri Moulton Horman used to hire a Portland attorney. Moulton Horman dropped off Kyron at school on the day he disappeared and is the focus of the investigation, though she hasn’t been named as a suspect.”
So what the heck happened to that 50,000??? That was in addition to the Sheriff’s fund.
Posting the new Kyron Posters I noticed no reward. FBI poster…no reward. KyronFoundation and bring Kyron home…..no reward. I wrote it in thinking someone made a mistake.
If it was an anonymous pledge what happened to it??? And i think I remember the Sheriff saying that anything over his 8000 Sheriff’s donation fund was going to be given to the bios to decide what to do with it.
@lyla and malty
OT I don’t even remember having to sign a special form. Just put my given name down. I did put that down as the one of the kids middle names. But never have had a prob. legally, or at school. Kinda liked it that
when solicter’s would call and say is “Mrs…. there” I could in good conscience say…”Nope…no such person here, bye” LOL
vw says:
October 31, 2012 at 7:44 pm
“Kinda liked it that
when solicter’s would call and say is “Mrs…. there” I could in good conscience say…”Nope…no such person here, bye” LOL”
LOL, I’m guilty of that too!
Me too, never changed my name. There’s no legal process, and you are not required to take your husbands name. You are who you are known as, example aka’s.
(Particularly glad now that I did that since you have to go through and prove your identity back to your birth, I can’t imagine the work someone would have to go through who’s changed their name by marriage over and over.) Sometimes I use both just to avoid confusion in social settings, but legally I use my maiden name.
BTW, my husband does the same thing when the solicitors call for Mr. “my maiden name”. LOL
@vw
October 31, 2012 at 7:44 pm
@lyla and malty
“OT I don’t even remember having to sign a special form. Just put my given name down. I did put that down as the one of the kids middle names. But never have had a prob. legally, or at school. Kinda liked it that when solicter’s would call and say is “Mrs…. there” I could in good conscience say…”Nope…no such person here, bye” LOL”
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I’ve been married soooo long I forgot what I signed!! Makes sense you can use your given name.
I wonder if local landfills have been included in the search for Kyron…just remembering the Etan Patz case and the confession from Pedro Hernandez.
@vw. I believe the divorce will be effected with a custody and visitation plan, and we know that will be meager for Terri, because Kaine will be motivated to do so as imo mcso will not testify or submit evidence from the criminal investigation, even under seal, in support of his RO and divorce action. And no judge would compel mcso. Without mcso’s testimony, Kaine has zip, just he said she said. Personally I think Terri a fool if she settles and walks away from house, a year of alimony (she earned it imo), and at least half time physical custody of Kiara if she ‘s innocent.
Unless I were hearing voices, I’d get the mental health thing but NOT from a clinical psychologist, only a psychiatrist,
but I’d be darn sure he got one too. All this is just imo and I would love to see pt 2 or 3 and Blink thoughts.
i skimmed this article thinking it very silly until I got to the final chilling paragraph.
http://mobile.oregonlive.com/advorg/db_96873/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=a8a71uKB
Now custody-battling dads move planfully to Portland area?
@vw says:
October 31, 2012 at 7:38 pm
I want to make sure I understand what you’re saying here, are you saying the reward money is no longer available? You heard or got that info from MCSO?
@vw. Did the computer log in info for June 4 get erased at District level
or Skyline level? My bet is it was the school server.
Did you find out if this occurred and is routine at other PPS schools?
Excellent question for Keefer depo. His should be about 600 questions.
Also principal before Keefer in a grant appl said there were tech parent volunteers
helping the school. A depo of Keefer should get full names of every parent volunteering on hard or
software computer projects during Keefer’s entire tenure (given SZ profile).
caution: I have never been able to verify that restraining order quoted by Pitkin.
B
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Interesting. Pitkin uses a direct quote from apparently the papers or Desiree herself, even mentions the Judges name, yet not one other media told that same story, unless it was referenced to WW. Wow. Kaine Horman *fired* WW the next week after that story. When did WW interview Terri? Is it possible that information *came from Terri*? Could this be why Pitkin lost his job? Wouldn’t a paper retract something like that if not true? Wouldn’t the Judge demand it? If Pitkin had viewed the actual court documents, would he not have been able to see where the parties were residing at the time? Hmmmmm?
I do and have always suspected that info came from TH, but not directly. How could she be saying everything was ok and then pull that out of her levis.
B
According to Washington County Circuit Court records, Terri Moulton Horman has been married twice before and has a 16-year-old son, James Moulton, from her first marriage. She married her second husband, Richard Ecker, in 1996. He adopted James in 1998, court records show.
Three years later, they filed for divorce. At the time the couple agreed James would stay with Terri Moulton Horman and visit Ecker three times a week. “I love him very much, and he calls me dad and always has,” Ecker wrote in court records.
Although it’s not been made public, court records reveal that in 2008—a year after she married Kaine Horman—Terri Moulton Horman wrote the court, saying Ecker had ceased all contact with the family for three years. Washington County ordered him to start paying $493 a month, and the issue has since faded from the public record.
That same year, Kaine Horman’s brother, Kristian Horman, was arrested for child molestation.
http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-12134-troubled_family.html
Is it possible that Ecker has motive to take Kyron from Kaine, as he possibly felt Kaine was taking James from him? I have no idea, but revisiting the older articles here, where he’s saying how much he loves James, it’s just one more thing to look at which I have not.
I linked it, you have to scroll down to comments. It was a response from someone using that moniker, so I assume was her. I get the feeling this is not something she knows first hand, but could perhaps be watercooler talk around the bracelet table. Who would benefit by spreading that rumor?
She, or spouse Derrick, were not on the SF list, but as Rose’s link states, her kids saw Kyron at school that day. I caught an article about him, running in a race in Lincoln City. I guess everyone in Oregon visits LC, on the coast, at least once. He appears to be a broker with a varied employment history, and connections in CA, as is his right.
http://www.brightscope.com/financial-planning/advisor/210003/Derrick-Allen-Mcfarland/
I too am curious as to who was in the household on Dec. 26, 2009 and what if anything it had to do with James’ departure. It could be that TH and KH were alone with the baby, and the kids were farmed out to other parents for the holidays. It could be that someone paying child support wanted a Christmas visit, and was told no. Grandparents might have been there. All I know is Lea Conner implied KH would not like it if the record was released.
jden says:
October 31, 2012 at 11:35 am
@erose 10/31/12 at 1:02am
Is that a direct quote from Pyper M regarding (James)?
Last night, when I was reading around the comments sections of various older articles, I ran across some one’s thought that has kind of stuck with me. Would like to give them credit, if I could find it again,but their concept was about the lack on anger. I’m going to run with that.
Where is the anger? Where is the anger from the family of a little boy who went missing inside of a school that was supposed to be safe. I have seen no anger expressed KH. No visible anger towards TH, or the school, or LE, or the DA, or schoolmate MC, or even RS. Isn’t KH mad that RS knew that TH wanted him killed for over 6 months and didn’t bother to let LE or KH know? Is he mad at a guy who went to his son’s vigil, then sexted his estranged wife? And if he’s not mad a MC, does that prove it was a hoax? And if that was a hoax, what else is a hoax?
Now DY is angry. She’s angry at TH, at DDS and even KH. Right or wrong, misplaced or not, I think that makes her normal.
TH has not projected an anger. ‘They’re blaming me in the blogs.’ LE focused in on her almost immediately. They tried to entrap her with the sting, and then possibly with MC. They backed her husband on a RO, which seems more and more factually baseless or at least provable. A school threw her under the bus, as did the people she thought were her friends. She has lost her stepson, and cannot see her daughter. She is being sued in civil court. Her life is a more than a mess.
Why don’t we see anger from the Skyline parents? A kid went to school and didn’t make it home. Where is the anger?
@TRuth,
Especially when he is going with bio Dad on BS camping trip that weekend, and step Dad might still be paying child support. Did he still visit 3X a week, and if not, did the support stop? If he was not paying child support (Ecker) then could KH have said he would not support someone elses child? If you read the whole “happy stepfamily saga” James was going down south to visit Tarver.
Not being from Portland, I had no idea that the mayor’s partner was an Oregonian journalist. Could someone on “the list” (not the science fair, the other list, the boy scouts molester list) have tried to make this about Portland and the mayor and his partner? I know, kind of far fetched, but far fetched is all I’ve got.
snip>
In 2006, Zuckerman was the lead writer of a controversial multi-part story, Scouts’ Honor, in the Idaho Falls Post Register about the coverup of a multi-state child molestation case involving at least two dozen minors and the Boy Scouts of America in Idaho.[8] He was accused of having a bias against the Boy Scouts of America and the LDS Church because of their stance on homosexuallity.
After moving back to Oregon, Zuckerman continued to investigate the Boy Scouts of America and the LDS church in his reporting in 2007 while working for The Oregonian.[18] As part of his work, Zuckerman obtained internal Boy Scout documents showing that as of December 31, 2004, two-thirds of the traditional troops in the organization’s western region were chartered by the LDS church and nationwide roughly a third are part of the LDS church. In this article, Men Sue Scouts, Mormon Church, six men allege a former troop leader and church teacher abused them and seek $25 million in compensation as the LDS church failed to thoroughly investigate, report the abuse to law enforcement, provide mental health services to victims or remove the abuser from contact with children once it learned about the abuse
Peter Zuckerman’s partner is Sam Adams, the mayor of Portland.[35][36][37] The Oregonian and Zuckerman took steps to ensure he had no influence over the coverage of his partner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Zuckerman
Exemplary reporting, and Sanduskiesque, only in this case the enabler is the molestors mother.
Scouts Honor (6 parts)
http://web.archive.org/web/20070928071418/http://www.postregister.com/scouts_honor/part1.php
Men Sue Scouts Morman Church
http://www.kellyclarkattorney.com/general/men-sue-scouts-mormon-church/
@erose. Kaine is goal focused.
if his primary anger is at TH, he’s not going to mention others in interviews.
And he needs testimony of RS & MC & PPS personnel in divorce/custody.
Terri conveyed anger and more importantly disbelief at school management
the first weekend, in writing, before Kaine & LE told her to shut up.
And then her lawyer did.
@TRuth. I posted plenty over time
about that possibility back when, obliquely.
His chief hobby is a car club & car shows.
I don’t think so though. He would’ve been identified
by description of SZ imo. I would like to see how mcso ruled
him out. And, for a guy who posts online on his interests,and
seems to be at JW’s functional level, he’s been very silent.
Kyron’s parents would make a very interesting “social project”. The way that they are weaved together is/was functional yet dysfunctional. The children seemed happy with Terri as “mom”. Yet, what strings and emotions were tugged and pulled between these three adults, then add a few-ex husbands and we see up close the destruction of an American family.
An interesting thought from @ Rose at 11:07 p.m. 10-31-12 – was the school’s computer system that open? How many people did have access to attendance and sign-in records? I would think that it would have some sort of security access to certain types of records, wouldn’t you? SZ could definitely be someone who had access to computers.
@T Ruth 11:20 p.m. 10-31-12 – do we know if Richard Ecker has an alibi and cleared by LE?
@January 4:37 p.m. – Pyper McFarland – where does she come off with the statement she makes about James? In MOO it seems very opinionated not factual – so, what was her relationship with James? Does she have a child close to his age?
erose says:
November 1, 2012 at 12:39 am
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erose – my sentiments exactly. I will never ever understand the school getting a pass on this.
Blink, I’m back in moderation with a crazy notion. No need to post, but wondering just how off kilter I am.
Also, found this nugget on another thread:
Rose says:
November 1, 2012 at 8:58 am
The power of the the Portland teachers’ union, foreswearing a $40 million Federal grant for Portland, which Hillsboro and Canby are managing to apply for. In my teading over the last year on this locally, those who apply and put forth good faith effort, get. http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/portland_public_schools_gives.html#incart_river_default#incart_m-rpt-2
So it has smacked me what entity hired those lawyers for the staff of Skyline school that “EagleFF” goes on and on about. PPS doesn’t do that. It was the Portland teacher’s uinion repr who made that decision and the union pays for their lawyers. Now if Portland’s Supt and County Council mrmbers can’t twist his (presumably) arm to show slight flexibility like Canby & Hillsboro did over $40 million,
who’s gonna put PPS, Keefer, Porter etc as a joint defendant OR even depose them, and what LE entity is going to investigate with seriousness the school personnel? No wonder PPB offloaded this crime scene like a hot potato. I imagine the PPB union has similar strength, which is why Federal investigation of some system issues came in.
Everything I have for you is up erose, tell me if I missed somepin.
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