Ramsey’s Indicted In JonBenet’s Murder In 1999- DA Alex Hunter Refused To Prosecute
According to a new report exclusive by the Daily Camera- Both John and Patsy Ramsey were indicted by a grand jury in 1999 for child abuse leading to her death- but prosecutor Alex Hunter refused to sign the indictment because he did not feel there was sufficient evidence to secure a prosecution against either parent.
The report lays to the rest years of lingering rumors that although the grand jury which was suspended more than once while hearing the Ramsey case was never polled.
In July 2008 then Boulder District Attorney Mary Lacy, publicly exonerated the Ramsey’s in an open letter after Touch DNA testing proved the suspect in Jon Benet’s assault and murder was an unrelated male whose profile matched DNA in a blood stain within the child’s underwear.
… The match of Male DNA on two separate items of clothing worn by the victim at the time of the murder makes it clear to us that an unknown male handled these items. There is no innocent explanation for its incriminating presence at three sites on these two different items of clothing that JonBenét was wearing at the time of her murder. … To the extent that we may have contributed in any way to the public perception that you might have been involved in this crime, I am deeply sorry. No innocent person should have to endure such an extensive trial in the court of public opinion, especially when public officials have not had sufficient evidence to initiate a trial in a court of law. … We intend in the future to treat you as the victims of this crime, with the sympathy due you because of the horrific loss you suffered. …
In 2001 John and Patsy Ramsey also passed a polygraph examination given by Dr. Ed Gelb and corroborated via quality control analysis Cleve Baxter.
Patsy Ramsey died in 2006 after over a decade of battling ovarian cancer.
In his book, The Other Side of Suffering, John Ramsey believes his daughter’s murderer was someone the family came into contact with either at a Holiday gathering or at a pageant appearance shortly before her murder on Christmas Day.
JonBenet’s murder remains unsolved.
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I see elsewhere Ramsey’s investigator
blamed the allegedly spurious suicide Mark H
and an unnamed lefthanded
roommate and alleged burglary accomplice.
fwiw
update Aug 2016, Sharp Entertainment spot to follow this Fall.
http://stephensingular.com
do you know the ethnic ancestry of suicide Mark H’s unnamed roommate?
No and I would be wary of comparison without the testing protocols, bench and lab notes, actual report with breakdown of loci, etc. AND THEN comparatives to the 1997 sample. You may have noticed I am pretty difficult to convince of anything without actual evidence, lol.
That said- I AM convinced those tests reflect the intruder and murderer of JonBenet Ramsey and there are now 2 hours of my day I cannot get back watching coverage of everything salacious all over again and nothing about that. Hey- if you can’t find a hamster wheel, why not make one everyone can get on at the same time?
B
That man who played Santa seemed suspect as much as anybody but I guess he was not strong enough so that let him out also with a long beard and so on I would think he would leave evidence. Of being there
Blink do you think there was only one intruder and murderer of JonBenet? I’ve watched the first episode on A&E screaming at the TV while trying to explain what was happening on the show to my husband that does not follow these things. Nice of them to leave the first segment with only mention of no indication of tampering with locks and doors. I may be wrong but they did not get to the basement window which showed how an intruder arrived inside the house. Then we have the nice piece that the expert was convinced it was Patsy’s handwriting towards the end. It sure seemed to be obvious that the producers are saying it was the Ramsey’s who are guilty. Heck if a gun side holster grabbing detective with “gimlet eyes” can come to that decision in 5 seconds you know an audience will in an hour. They should present both sides ie …intruder, family did it…in the first episode as to be fair to the audience. I did follow this when John Karr showed up. I remembered Helgoth but did not know anything about Oliva or JG the roommate of Helgoth. What a world of creeps. Do you know who JG’s first wife was?
Need a refresher on JG please?
I watched that trainwreck of a series on ID and I am truly shocked. Being careful not to offend some of my colleagues out there- but since when did we stop fact checking, sourcing or NOT speaking on topics one is not an expert (or cleary does not understand the experts reports). WTH? A DNA expert who does not know the meaning of suspect DNA CODIS confirmation loci and the rarity match? Boils me skibs I tell ya. (say like Pop Eye)
Once again I am very, very thankful that critically thinking and reasonably minded people rule the day.
B
I will admit, I’ve been of the opinion that one of the Ramseys, or a combination of them committed this crime in a fit of rage, and subsequent staging, or were involved in a cover up of a terrible accident. I just haven’t been able to reconcile some of the “facts” reported with the theory of an intruder. I need some visual aids maybe, or a comprehensive list of facts and evidence. Also need some more opinions and education on the DNA science.
Trying my best to keep an open mind…..
An open mind is all one can ask for.
What if I told you BPD themselves has sworn in Federal Court that the DNA profile(s) in CODIS belongs to the unidentified perpetrator of the crimes against JBR?
B
John Gigax came to light following Tracey’s documentary about JonBenet in 2004. His only connection was his association with Michael Helgoth. He had moved from Bolder to Indiana at the time of the murder.
John Steven Gigax, thank you. Iirc he was a Michael Tracey “suspect”. I have no info about him that isnt out there, but as a general comment if he was ever in the Ramsey home that would be enough reason to request a DNA sample, imo. Has he admitted to being in the home as a painter/maintenance?
General statement not any known POI: What I will say is that I am convinced this unknown JBR offender spent time in multiple areas of the Ramsey home unattended. He has been interviewed and cleared based on an alibi that needs to be rechecked. No DNA sample, LE spoke to him pretty early. Think about it- if true he accessed the house through the window- who knows that’s even possible in the first place? How does one know the grate lifts up and one can access through the window, which consequently is not covered by the alarm the Ramseys were not using and it was locked previous to John Ramsey having to break it to get in- yet was not fixed. For me, that is a limited amount of people.
B
Here’s the
I would reply: Didn’t the BPD f*** this up so badly that much of the “evidence” might not tell the story? If it’s the case that they did swear that the DNA match is the perp’s, then I certainly hope that one day they can prove it with the evidence that they didn’t f*** up.
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first-time says:
September 15, 2016 at 10:20 am
What if I told you BPD themselves has sworn in Federal Court that the DNA profile(s) in CODIS belongs to the unidentified perpetrator of the crimes against JBR?
B
Presumptively, scientific evidence is designed to be neutral. If the result was achieved as a standard to be submitted as relevant evidence we must assume (absent evidence to the contrary) the result is valid. I say this because the fact that BPD admitted both DNA profile Distal Stain 0007 and the touch DNA results from two places from the interior of her long johns means that under the memo of understanding signed by BPD for inclusion to the CODIS database as well as the index of submission for unknown subject profiles, under Federal law they have sworn this unsub profile is the perpetrator of the crimes against JBR, period. This is a murder charge so there is no statute of limitations, but technically speaking, a DA could John Doe the profile and indict it- there is plenty of case law out there to support it.
There can be no disagreement on this point or BPD is violating Federal law, as well as their contract to be able to submit in the first place. A great example of how this was absolutely unclear to BPD is Mark Beckner’s AMA on Reddit (discussed a bit earlier). He completely deleted his A’s- but jumps on after the fact to state that the DNA profile in CODIS must be considered that of the perp.
Super Brilliant 19 years into it the chief of BPD still does not understand DNA and its usage as evidence in criminal investigation and due process. What the F?
MOREOVER.. (so glad you took my bait first-time! Thank you)
The 13 loci or 10 loci requirement for submission across all index categories is false. For JBR case submission:
• For forensic DNA profiles, all 13 CODIS Core Loci must be attempted but at least 8 CODIS Core Loci combined with a
match rarity
of at least one in ten million are required for submission to and searching at NDIS. What can we infer from this blink, you ask? You can infer that at a minimum, it is 10 million times more likely that the suspect is of Hispanic ancestry than Caucasian.
Same thing with former DA investigator Kolar from his more recent AMA on Reddit re his self published book where he unambiguously points to a 9 year old as a killer of his sister after torturing her with a piece of a train track, lol.
Im beginning to wonder- do they just hire the experts that will publicly say whatever they need to obfuscate the investigation therefore continuing public discussion and divide? Are they (media outlet) providing flawed data at the onset- because in several cases I have found facts are not part of the equation.
In my training and education I have learned to state something to myself and when necessary to others I find helps keep me be objective and neutral in the investigation process:
1. I was not there to witness this with my own eyes which is the only evidence I trust as absolute.
2. At all times, presented with factual evidence that refutes my theory, I must be willing to scrap the theory and start all over following the new evidence objectively, to its possible conclusion.
3. If I feel I am at a point where my theory is as complete as it can be- confer with someone that frequently disagrees with me but who’s counsel I respect. If unavailable, try to disprove it myself. (not preferred, I find I do this as I go).
Lastly- in some ways, I do not blame many people (nobody here) who are relying on superficial information to develop what is (to them) reasonable conclusion absent a close look at the factual evidence in this case. Now, if they are posting all over creation without diligence waiving their 1st amendment flag I assert my right to call them assclowns.. I digress… It was not until I studied under the FBI BSU protocol for sexually sadistic offenders , of which studies of this case and other actual casework of the FBI are included, did I grasp the nature of a crime like this and its motivational behavioral profile. I believe with similar understanding it is absolutely clear that this crime was committed by a sexual sadist pedophile.
B
john ramsey should have thought back to which neighbors, work colleagues, or friends he or Patsy told about his window misadventure. Maybe even one of them called a firm to a site visit to give a repair estimate.
I do agree I do not believe that particular line of inquiry was followed diligently enough.
B
@first-time, wasn’t “fit of rage” Desiree’s explanation for her determination that stepmother offed Kyron?
Burke said his mother had never had a fit of rage, never even spankedthem.
@erose. I believe somewhere it was said JB went doenstairs to the kitchen table and ate the pineapple.
gigax seems be be someone whose out of town
alibi needed to be thoroughly vetted but wasn’t
if BOC could establish anyone, say gigax, had been in the house,
and his alibi was untruthful, imo that’s enough probable cause for
a dna warrent given his criminal history.
It would be interesting to know if he has been asked to provide a sample and the outcome.
B
@ first-time says:
September 15, 2016 at 10:20 am
Me too, I lean toward covering up an accident. Maybe brother accidentally pushed her down the basement stairs, or accidentally lashed out at her with the flashlight he said he had that night. In his interview he stated he had the flashlight, because he was supposed to be in bed and snuck downstairs to put together some toy (which he also said he couldn’t remember exactly what the toy was, which I thought odd, remembering one but not the other). The simplest scenario would be little sister came down as well, threatened to tell mom and dad he was up, he bribed her with some pineapple, she still wanted to tattle, he then accidentally pushed or hit her and Mom R came down stairs later because of commotion and found the child, deceased, staged the whole thing to protect her son from any prosecution, etc.
Now, the only reason I would ever lean this way to begin with is because of the cockamamie ransom note. I try to imagine this case without that note and how I would look at it differently, I would absolutely think independent perp.
That being said, evidence of an unknown person’s dna also changes my thinking somewhat, but it could have been planted as well I suppose, even though it would be more complicated. I would like to know where the dna was found, and I don’t know if that information is available. Was it found on the child’s clothing, body or under the fingernails? Was the dna found only in the basement, or in the bedroom as well? How do we know in this case that no one in the Ramsey home left that house sometime after JBR was deceased (for instance to get rid of something(s) and then returned sometime later?
Sorry if all this information is already out there, I haven’t followed this case other than to read the ransom note several times and a few tidbits here and there. I will go back and read more though.
If Blink thinks this was a random perp, then what is the story behind the ransom note? IMHO that ransom note is a joke, was never, ever intended to be part of a kidnapping; rather some sort of distraction.
Dear Jesus- If it is your will, please give me strength, time and fortitude to write on the Ramsey case in a way that brings light to the darkness and makes the crooked places straight for the little girl who came to you on your birthday. Amen.
Felt the need to say that, hope that’s ok. Till then…
In no way is this a random perp- he knew this familys routine and the layout of the home very well. He knows them well- and they him, they just don’t “know” they know him. I addressed to some extent the DNA in my response to first-time. I so appreciate the intelligent and critical thinkers tank this site is.
B
I believe that Gigax has never given a sample as BPD has said he was never a suspect. I do not believe they have ever even interviewed him.
That is what my limited research showed- interesting he never got a mention on ID by name.
B
Does anyone have a theory on the pineapple? If the family didn’t eat it with JBR and the perp used the stun gun on her in her room, then how did she eat pineapple. Did the perp take some to her room?
@ Erose You know around Christmas kids do get up in the night to look their new gifts over It is exciting
Maybe get a treat Mommy and Daddy asleep upon the Third floor Happened after the folks went to bed
in our family often at Christmas time
What I wonder about did they open the door to some one they thought they knew
Just guessing No facts for sure
I read somewhere that John Gigax did a remodel on the home prior to the Ramsey’s purchasing the home. It’s also stated that his “alibi” is for receipts out of the area but the receipts are for the 23rd and 28th of December. Not the 25/26th.
Question in regards to the duct tape. I know you mentioned that it wasn’t seen in the home and there isn’t a record of it but I did reD somewhere else that there was a receipt that was coded but no descriptionss that had two
Items on it from a hardware store and the prices matched what could have been rope and tape? Have you heard that?
I just now started following this case and their are so many conflicting reports/stories I am trying to sort out fact and fiction.
In regards to who did this one theory I have is that they where trading Jb for sex. (History of sex abuse I believe?) and this trade went horrible wrong. So the Ramsey’s had to cover this up because you can’t exactly say I was trading my daughter out for sex. Do you think this is a possibility?
A definite no.
B
Is Touch DNA useful on the knots of the garrote? They appear to be quite intricate. Also, was a DNA sample taken from the guy that committed suicide? Thanks.
It was tested. I am hesitant to say what I was told without reading the actual report myself except to say I believe that sample produced an insufficient amount of loci to even form a partial comparison. Same with the scrapings of her fingernails with the exception that JBR’s DNA was present. Good Question. Helgoths DNA was tested against the known DNA sample from CODIS and he was excluded.
If I may make a general comment on the tail of your question Lynne- I have seen folks unsure about what to make of what is a known (perhaps) serology sample, as an example, blood or spit, semen vs. something referred to as a touch DNA sample which makes me think it may be a good idea to clarify- “touch” DNA is an approach to collecting samples invisible to the naked eye or that may not respond to some other tests to detect its presence. In the case of JBR’s long johns- the reason the inside of the waistband was scraped/tested on both sides was because it is natural to find shed cells from someone who they knew conclusively had to have removed her bottoms prior to her death. It is very common in the most visible testing areas to not delineate the origin of a sample’s nuclear material. Where the issue arises for what is undoubtedly the potential for transfer for a touch approach is we want samples that are reasonably and logically tied to the material and evidence. ie: someone removed her pj’s, one would reasonably use 2 hands at either side of the waistband to remove them and replace them- so we see the larger deposit of a sample not likely to be a random transfer.
B
#13 was a typo, not BOC but BPD.
Some say gigax did labor for previous owners getting house ready to sell.
as to their routines, don’t burglers “case the joint?” Maube he
started that way and concluded as a stalker studying routines.
the ransom note proves he is “garrulous,” a talker.
Imo he woukd’ve embroidered alibi
details had BLD interviewed him.
One needn’t use a garrotte
or plant sexual assault evidence
to cover up an accident. Far
easier ways less likely to be
discovered by the keystone kops.
yes maam.
B
Thanks for the explanation, B. That darn ransome note, though….
key evidence for sure.
B
Beautiful prayer, friendLY. Rest assured, He has heard it and will be faithful to answer, in His time and His way.
Just when I think I have this case within some reasonable perspective….
Indeed, that ransom note! A ruse? A diversion to send the investigation in a different direction? I’m reminded the Ramsay’s did have an open house during the Christmas season. Complete strangers were coming and going. That’s an oppty to steal the pad of paper, rummage thru stuff, familiarize oneself with layout of home…get some substance for note…privy to $118,000 bonus. Hmmmm. It looks as if it was meant to make the family suspicious. If this is true, it was well planned and executed. What floors me the most, is the protective society, surrounding the Ramsay’s, to keep their mouths shut; not to talk to police or investigators. Whaaaaaa and whyyyyy??? Yet, they go to media first? If that was my child, I’d be all over the police, media, friends….begging for any light that could be reveal more.
Just like Caylee was never missing, JonBenet was never abducted. I’m back at square one.
Love and Light
PS….I’ve always believed this was a pedo. Still do. I may be off, but the the killer sure loves Dirty Harry and Speed.
Reading more on LHP, housekeeper. Hinky meter going off for anyone else? Is she or husband Hispanic? It appears she had spoke highly of Patsy Ramsey, but switched gears after the murder. She told the grand jury she was certain Mrs. Ramsay killed JBR.
Schleppin’ the schmaltzy. Schmuck.
Did she have a key to the Ramsay’s house, btw?
Tom Hanks for President!
Malty, That’s something I had not considered, thanks.
Malty says:
September 17, 2016 at 2:59 am
Blink, Did you miss this?
September 17, 2016 at 12:57 am
Does anyone have a theory on the pineapple? If the family didn’t eat it with JBR and the perp used the stun gun on her in her room, then how did she eat pineapple. Did the perp take some to her room?
I owe you an apology and a very detailed response, which I will.
xo
B
Blink do you have any thoughts on the CBS special that aired last night?
Yes. They will be sued vigorously by Burke and John Ramsey.
These people are certainly not letting the facts get in the way of their fiction for entertainment purposes.
Just Embarrassed for them.
B
I just saw one tiny excerpt of today’s final Phil.
Can you believe the heinous deliberation with which
BPD showed up unannounced at his dorm door, in front of peers,
to “interview” him DURING FINALS WEEK! ?
and his family had an attorney!
BPD was WAY off the reservation!
And SADISTIC to a child Victim and Brother!
Kudos to Burke for just saying “not Finals week.”
It looks like Janes got off easy. Probably bcz he
leapt over college and went overseas.
Kiara did not get off easy at the hands of mcso.
Fitzgerald = Charleton.
https://www.google.com/amp/m.eonline.com/amp/news/795937/what-s-the-deal-with-burke-ramsey-jonbenet-ramsey-case-investigator-sounds-off?client=safari
God help people on a neurological spectrum with him playing psychiatric/psychological analyst.
Just OMFG.
B
One of the many recent shows, not sure which but I think Discover ID, had Patsey and Burke’s DNA on the pineapple bowl and on the tea, but not JBR, IOW she did not feed herself, but not sure the info they released is accurate. I think it’s significant because she did eat pineapple, and if she was stunned by the stun gun in bed, then she had to have eaten it prior.
One has to wonder if the perp was included in the friends that were milling about Dec. 26th.
Here is what I go back to – we have DNA from multiple sources and two unmatched boot prints.
The only theory that covers this has the parents (dad) running all over finding DNA, boots, and a pubic hair, than disposing of evidence while his wife writes a ransom note while disinfecting the house.
Spelling this out sounds insane. But there is no way the family did it.
Right, also- 3 profiles that match each other, one of which comingled in her blood as the result of a sexual assault. This was a sexually motivated crime by a sexual sadist (likely) pedophile. That is probably the only thing I would be willing to say is directly proven by physical, indisputable evidence.
This is a DNA case.
B
if not gigax, then imo the ransom note points to the housekeeper,
tho housebreaker/executioner is clearly a male ally.
My issue with this report is it was not an investigation. It was journalism. They had the opinion and went with it. Including leading “witnesses” like the 911 operator. I wish you could remove their titles.
How do you pitch your idea, get paid well, be the executive producer and maintain investigative integrity without conflict? It is impossible if you have a ratings interest, or like the others also hoching other projects. When Lee said wood slivers in her vaginal cavity could have been through transfer I nearly fell over.
B
Blink, No need for an apology, but I’ll take the response when you have time.
You definitely will. I think it is an important topic and I want to cover all of it.
B
@TRuth, The year this happened my cop cousin and I followed the case together and we were sure the only person both parents would cover for was their son, not each other, therefore since we were told it was definitely the family, it had to be Burke. Thought that for years.
As the evidence presents we now we know more; she had a stun gun injury, was garroted (defense wounds) and sexually assaulted, and then finally assaulted on the head, *in that order,* so there was no cover up and no nine year old would think to do that without some reference. That is what infuriates me about this case, I was so misled that I considered the victims as perpetrators.
T. Ruth says:
September 16, 2016 at 3:47 pm
I could not agree more. Just like in Kyron- LE intentionally misled the public but it was years before they were forced to admit it.
B
@Rose, I agree with the circle surrounding the housekeeper. It’s hard to believe how many other suspects have more circumstantial or suspicious or coincidental evidence against them than the Ramsey’s, but the knowledge of that ransom note, IMO, points to someone with a current inside track. Also, in case you haven’t guessed, I think that pineapple is so out of wack, it’s almost like it was step up.
rose says:
September 19, 2016 at 9:39 pm
if not gigax, then imo the ransom note points to the housekeeper,
tho housebreaker/executioner is clearly a male ally.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/experts-touch-dna-jonbenet-ramsey/
******
An article about the touch DNA on JonBenet. Check comment #4. Also one comment mentioned a 911 call from a Christmas Party?
waah?
Beyond bizarre. There was what is to be believed an accidental 911 call from the Ramsey home during a Christmas Party on Dec 23rd. Police tried to call back and got Ramsey answering machine so they showed up, saw the gathering and Fleet White thought he had done it accidentally when making an outgoing call by pushing a pre set dial.
Personally, I would very much like to hear that call.
B
The last show on ID stated there was only 4 markers found with the touch DNA. What does this mean to the integrity of that touch DNA?
It means Dan Kane does not know the facts of this case he is commenting on publicly. For many indeces purposes, To submit to CODIS the minimum loci result is 13. In fact, for missing persons submissions there is no exception to this. For what are termed Forensic profiles, and in this case, an unknown assailant, the minimum is 10 Loci (it is my understanding this result was not achieved until 2002 and once it was still not submitted to CODIS- my presumption is that while BPD knew since 1997 that there was a foreign DNA profile mixed with JBR blood DNA and its evidentiary use was not a fluent topic or expertise. FF to 2008 when Lacy steps in and orders further testing to include a touch approach- when the result came back as a match from extractions from both the left and right inside of the waistband of her pj’s to the profile co mingled in the stain caused by antemortem injury in her panties- it is a 3 way match with a result devoid of innocent explanation and of a deposit unlikely to be caused from transfer. (Note here- it is likely part of the findings will include several test areas that yielded no result, effectively eliminating with a potential for transfer contamination.)
The minimum loci is 10 for this profile- or 8 with a match rarity and I have yet to see a single “professional” cite those facts.
B
So how many markers where identified on her DNA? Because people keep saying that there where only 4.
Also, I love how Henry Lee also defended Michael Peterson in the murder of his wife.
10. and people are saying a lot of things they do not bother to check the facts on ( unlike yourself and most BOC readers and posters)
Peterson had some definite trial error issues- but he absolutely killed his wife. My personal favorite- the owl attack.
B
I also laughed at the taser situation. I mean you have got to be kidding me police don’t carry tasers around because they energize suspects.
You mean from CBS? Where the cop said it induces adrenaline? Maybe one day I will show the selfie I took during the show with my paper hat.
B
Also sorry I am kind of rambling at this point. They say the house cleaner found Burkes feces on JBR bed. And then there was alleged feces on the candy that JBR received Christmas morning. This has never been tested has it? And have’t the Ramseys stated that their dog wasn’t potty trained?
I cant weigh in on unconfirmed reports Meg- I just dont know what is fact or fiction on those issues at this point.
B
@erose.
wrt “Also, in case you haven’t guessed, I think that pineapple is so out of wack, it’s almost like it was step up.”
to be honest I think you think more carefully and incisively than I, but my slap dash think is she just got hungry and went and ate some pineapple.
Rose, Your theory matches Malty’s and you two are heavy hitters, so I’m probably wrong.
The Ramsey’s came home and put her to bed. None of the family acknowledges her eating pineapple, and Patsy denied she would ever serve with the spoon found in the bowl. JBR came downstairs and ate pineapple alone with her murderer in the house, then returned to bed, only to be stunned and dragged back thru the kitchen. Why would he not just sieze her in the kitchen? And where are her fingerprints on the bowl or the spoon?
To me, it’s like the note, (why leave a ransom note for a murder victim) the flashlight (who goes thru the trouble of staging a garrotte but forgets to dispense of the weapon used to bash in a skull and why not leave it near the victim) and now the feces. I think I could make an argument for a theory that someone may have wanted the family to be the prime suspects.
Sitting waiting for Dr. Phil and TH with my hard hat umbrella on. After watching only the first hour of the latest JBR slanted piece I am not in a very good mood.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/
B
You’ve all have probably seen that Burke is going to sue CBS.
http://myinforms.com/en-us/a/41695783-jonbenet-ramseys-brother-plans-to-sue-cbs-over-docuseries/
snip>
In the series, “The Case of: JonBenét Ramsey,” investigators reexamined all of the evidence from the case and concluded that Burke Ramsey killed his sister by accident with a flashlight. They theorized that when the family returned home from a Christmas celebration, John Ramsey put JonBenét to bed as Patsy Ramsey served Burke pineapple and tea.
Sometime later, they believe that JonBenét came downstairs and helped herself to her brother’s dessert and he became so infuriated, he hit her over the head with a flashlight. The investigators also concluded that the parents covered the whole thing up.
I have been tweeting with Lin Wood for days lol. Just outrageous. Not sure if you have seen it erose- but Wood will win just like he has before.
B
Who went to slipknot classes, Patsy or nine year old Burke?
snip>
JonBenet’s body was bound with complicated rope slipknots and a garrotte attached to her body.
http://www.leagle.com/decision/20031576253FSupp2d1323_11466/WOLF%20v.%20RAMSEY
to my knowledge neither. Would believe the perp did though- maybe BSA?
B
B
BSA, what a can of worms. Are leaning towards someone more sophisticated than the known suspects?
For me, he has a mixed profile.
B