Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage

Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing,  Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.

Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW,  a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.

In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud-  the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper,  Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.

Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.

 

 

BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.

 

 

 

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15,021 Comments

  1. erose says:

    Ummm…do they even know what they are saying?

    Welcome to Bring Kyron Home!!

    Many sections are still being reconstructed after the site crash and migration. They are being brought back up as soon as possible.

    Web site is back online. Sorry for the delay. Completely new server to handle any amount of traffic. Had to rebuild the site template and am still re-adding content. Information is being updated on the site and we’ll have a few new announcements for you to share shortly so have those mouse fingers ready.

    Web site is down to overload of web traffic (viewers) on the site. Over 4 million hits in 4 days – LOVE IT. Now to get it back online… will post an update when fixed. Keep posting and sharing even if traffic volumes keep the web site down. Kyron still needs us!!

    http://www.bringkyronhome.org/

    No. They. Don’t.
    B

  2. erose says:

    Four million hits and not many likes, hits or comments to show for it, btw.

  3. Malty says:

    @CD
    I noticed all those new likes in such a short time Thought it was games people play
    Never heard of this RW But thanks I will pay attention I don’t go over there much anymore
    Lately I have to see how much money they made on the car wash
    Can’t find anything about it. Money or car wash But some thing has changed in attitude and likes since I was there last

  4. cd says:

    DY is posting again on one of her and SG’s sites

    Desiree Davidson Young
    Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn’t Kyron? Where’s Kyron?
    I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from….the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where’s Kyron?

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971
    ————-
    The only problem here is Kyron did not leave the school with Terri and he was not seen walking down the sidewalk with Terri or Kiara. . He was seen after Terri left the school. The photo she is talking about here is the first picture taken of Kyron in front of his science project. We know that Terri and Kiara did not leave with Kyron right after that picture was taken due to a witness seeing Terri taking the picture.

    I remember DY saying Kyron was seen in the parking lot next to a truck after that picture was taken. So whats up with this new twist? Remember the” he saw it all” post.

    If DY has so much evidence Terri is guilty then why does she need to stretch the truth to get her point across. Just tell everyone what you think happened and stick to it.

    She is not stretching the truth, she is lying about a material fact regarding her son’s disappearance- why? There are multiple witnesses who have given statements to LE and depositions contradicting her. Staton himself publicly stated Kyron was seen after TH left and and I have a time stamped photo of the room he was last in where TH produced a receipt, and was captured on store video miles away, simultaneously.

    The only thing I can come up with is that she is making statements of belief (lies) in the event she gets sued for making the allegations she has when she knows they are impossible. I cannot fathom why a mother would help a predator hide in plain site for any reason, because unfortunately, that is what she is doing.

    Lastly- if there was a scintilla of evidence past some river jockey’s “impressions” TH would have been indicted or put in jail.
    B

  5. Malty says:

    @CD
    Checked out RW site She seems to be involved in many cases Did not see any real hate remarks
    When I looked at her friends I gave up there are to many
    How ever I would not go meet her alone any place Or anyone on the Internet
    I see there is a car wash here in Portland June 6

  6. Rose says:

    http://www.wweek.com/portland/mobile/blogs/blogView/id:33239
    Wondering if this 2002-10 investigation was a reason Glen sold Bottoms Up.

  7. Rose says:

    thank you Quizzi. The Admin of the Kyron page must have
    copied it over, and I didn’t realize that. I thot the poster was
    a regular Kyron site Soldier & did not realize she herself was a site’s Captn.

  8. Rose says:

    The language of a 1 to 1 personal written offer of that nature to Terri, where one places oneself in a professional investigative interviewer’s role with a stranger, shows in my opinion the fixation & grandiose thinking of a Borderline PD, just my opinion upon reading one writing. And one would expect, then, involvement in many “cases.”

  9. T. Ruth says:

    The witness to that photo, Gina Zimmerman, IIRC, said it was taken around 8:15. (second Dateline episode, I think)

    Desiree Young is now telling us that Kyron disappeared just moments after that, and saying he disappeared from OUTSIDE the school, when LE contradicts her entirely, saying he was last seen INSIDE the school either around 8:45 or around 9:00 a.m. (whichever report one cares to believe).

    WTH IS going on here? Now I’m wondering if there will be an update from LE and if said update is making people nervous.

  10. Rose says:

    “The only thing I can come up with is that she is making statements of belief (lies) in the event she gets sued for making the allegations she has when she knows they are impossible.”
    Here’s other options:
    –is in the kickoff of a fundraising drive, drama marketing
    –absolute fixation on vengeance on Terri wherein Terri is the predator’s substutute in her mind
    –truly genuinely believing invented facts contrary to reality is characteristic of some personality disorders.
    .

  11. Rose says:

    I looked at some of the Comments on Worsham, most by Stacey. But, in her Comment to her own writing, Worsham betrays off-line chat knowledge rec’d from Stacey. She thanks Stacey for” the tip from Kyron’s mother ” she posted that TH now lives in Eugene. Stacey herself had not attributed her source as Desiree, but Worsham verifies it. How else could Desiree get that info other than Tony accessing professional data bases or State colleagues?

  12. Rose says:

    wow, Kaine’s BKH FB page has a prominent post today on p1 that “stepmother is GUILTY”
    violation of Court order?
    https://www.facebook.com/BringKyronHome/posts/988325354511428

  13. T. Ruth says:

    June 14, 2010:

    “This process is not over. We as an investigative team, the sheriff’s office and all the people that are directly involved in this effort are resolute in bringing Kyron home,” Multnomah County sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said. “This will not become a cold case for us. We will continue to investigate this case until we have it solved.”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_kyron_horman_switch.html

    December 4, 2010:

    Staton:

    “I wanted to know what’s going on because I lost confidence in the investigation,” he said. “I felt the case was moving towards a cold case, and I was concerned. We had collected ***a ton of information***, and ***nothing*** was being answered.”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/12/multnomah_county_sheriff_dan_s_2.html

    February 24, 2011:

    One of Staton’s top aides, Capt. Jason Gates, told reporters Thursday that investigators hope to bring things to an end “either by solving the case or coming to a semi-conclusion by having done all that we can do.”

    http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/fbi-steps-up-role-in-search-for-missing-oregon-boy/

    Here’s an idea. This case needs an update, it most certainly is a cold case, and it’s far past time new and accurate information be released to the public and the rumors halted. I don’t see how rumors and inaccuracies will forward a case, God knows it hasn’t done any good whatsoever in the last 5 years. If any witnesses there that day, are hooked up on believing inaccuracies and rumors, will the truth ever be brought to light? C’mon LE, give the witnesses in Kyron’s life a spark of truth to go on.

  14. Malty says:

    I just went to go fund and read what Kelly wrote
    She says there are only 3 family approved sites on Kyron besides that go fund site
    Bringkyronhome World Soliers and one other I can’t think
    Is this new info today it says 3hours ago
    Anybody know
    None of the sites ran by the admin as I call her are on the list
    Am I confused
    Something has really changed Update me Is this post by Kelly New or what

  15. Malty says:

    www .gofundme.co m/kyronhorman

  16. cd says:

    Malty says:
    May 22, 2015 at 5:40 am
    @CD
    Checked out RW site She seems to be involved in many cases Did not see any real hate remarks
    When I looked at her friends I gave up there are to many
    How ever I would not go meet her alone any place Or anyone on the Internet
    ——————-
    I looked on her site and had the same impression. But considering whom RW has aligned her self with and her willingness to pass on information that she has not researched, I have my doubts about her. IMO there is not much difference in passing on or recommending URL’s involved in cyber abuse then doing it yourself.

  17. Rose says:

    Soldier in Chief just posted this on her World Soldier site as a comment (why K resided with Kaine):
    “Because Mom had medical issues and at the time Mom and Dad felt it was a better plan for Kyron.
    Mom still has joint custody.”
    Ithought DY did NOT have joint custody but had circumscribed visitation rights (the latter due to distance).

    These people will believe anything and moreover need to review Oregon law.
    B

  18. Rose says:

    Elder son is a perfect example of why a Court may give full custody to one parent,
    but when the child is 18 he may move in with the idealized absentee noncustodial
    parent to finish high school and enter adulthood.

  19. Rose says:

    It seems there are all sorts of aggressive attack pages out there.
    & Attack on Blink.
    Mourning the loss of Puzzledbyautism, anotherkyronblog, & vwoofrevisions, tho I only looked into them very episodically, I knew these were OLive commenter yeomen like Eagle, so I next went looking for the last man maybe standing, trashys too. Now to be found under trashys on google. but I saw a trashys too lamo (or initials similar, not looking back). the vitriol. the venom. to Blink & bloggers. also alleges Terri now lives with kewl a disabled person (other adjectives I won’t repeat) in eugene.

  20. Rose says:

    and Blink, what’s that ethnic slur Desiree’s minions charge you with on LAMO?

    I have no earthly idea.
    B

  21. Rose says:

    I am of the opinion it is Borderline type behavior
    to provocatively stir things up whether with Blink & blog or with
    kewl, Terri/Houze (fat chance), or others.

    In fact, boiled down, publicized car washes and fractitious ad hoc searches (& uninvolved LE or father)
    are just “stir things up” events by those who find quiet intolerable.

  22. Rose says:

    @@Malty. Lots of people have been surprised to know my spouse can’t hear. He lipread. He had a disarming way to smiling, nodding knowingly, and focusing on the other person (lip reading) which made them think they were being attended to.
    —-
    I just read back Blink looking for that ethnic slur unsuccessfully & found:
    “From a credible source: I am told TH was the go between for DY and KH almost exclusively with the occasional exception for pick up and drop off terse dialogue.
    In other words, all correspondence, all care needs, scheduling and all things “Kyron” went through TH to DY and vice versa. Desiree and Kaine had zero contact directly for years. In retrospect of this information, that is pretty clear if we review things like DY stating that TH was trying to help her get more visitation and that TH was told by Kaine “no”, and some of the incidents that DY brought up in interviews. It was always the two of them corresponding in some manner- again, it made sense to me that Kaine told DY that he was not aware of the incident she was referencing because of the lack of contact- not because I believe it happened.
    I don’t.
    B”

    I don’t either. But imo this type of postdivorce cutoff wasn’t over custody. She had the visitation
    she wanted & took less. It wasn’t over Terri jealousy; she dealt with Terri over Kyron for years.
    That leaves one thing: alimony, insurance, money. Imo the Kaine-Desiree cutoff not speaking
    was over money period. He had it; she didn’t.

  23. Rose says:

    I timewastingly went back several Blink pp searching for an ethnic slur Blink supposedly made when characterizing possible bio Mom mcso info source.

    Then I checked the LAMO source! Lamo quoted “river jockey”

    Dang if it wasn’t typical concrete thought patterns by a Desiree admiring
    soldier who thot it referred to an illegal immigrant swimming a river.

    For anyone who has followed this case, ” river jockey” in Blinkspeak
    would be an mcso River Patrol deputy without criminal investigatory
    experience or training nevertheless put in charge of poor wee kyron’s abduction
    investigation.

    So that would be Monte Reiser Captn of River Patrol or Mark Herron deputy on River Patrol.

  24. Rose says:

    No 62 http://www.orrc.net/results/2013/2013haggmay10k.htm
    I seem to remember other runners assoc with kyron, ie Terrones, spec ed

  25. Rose says:

    Reiser, the head of mcso investigations in Oct 2009
    ” said Capt. Monte Reiser, head of the sheriff’s department’s investigations division.”
    http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/10/who_killed_eunice_karr_in_1984.php

  26. Rose says:

    concommitant with another plea for money, Davidson sister says as posted by admin of Roseburg Supports FB:
    “An update from Kyron’s family Thank you for sharing!
    My heart is full! I just want to thank everyone for the amount of support, well-wishes and donations that have come in for our Kyron over the past week. It is truly humbling. No words can ever express the amount of gratitude my family feels toward all of you. With the 5 year anniversary of his disappearance fast approaching it is more important than ever that he remain in the public eye and we are diligent in looking for him.

    On a separate note, I want to remind you all that there are a lot of Kyron Facebook sites out there representing the wrong information, so please be cautious when following those pages. Outside of my site here, there are only 3 sites that are monitored with approved posts by family members of Kyron. This is the place where you will find updates on him during the ongoing investigation, any search plans or fundraising events and Law Enforcement approved fliers; Missing Kyron Horman Facebook site, Kyron Horman’s World Soldiers and bringkyronhome.org.
    Thank you again for all of the support we receive daily, and keep sharing his picture.
    Kelly”
    https://www.gofundme.com/kyro

    Tip of hat to Houze: Kelly says Desiree & her family monitor & approve posts on World Soldiers & Missing Kyron.

  27. T. Ruth says:

    KGW Staff, KGW.com 3:44 p.m. PDT May 19, 2015

    The day he went missing

    Kyron and his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, arrived at Skyline Elementary School around 8 a.m. Friday and attended a science fair at the school. Around 8:45 a.m. Terri said goodbye to Kyron and watched the second-grader walk down the hallway toward his classroom. Police say that the last time the boy was seen was about 9 a.m. Investigators have not revealed who saw Kyron last, or whether he attended his first class.
    http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/05/22/11732984/

    So, who has this right? And can someone tell me, why 5 freakin’ years later there would be ANY question as to what transpired that morning? And perhaps even more importantly why any individual parent connected to Kyron would differ from what has been published by LE?

    grrrrr!

  28. Rose says:

    @ Malty. wrt “Malty says:
    May 22, 2015 at 2:51 pm”
    See my post just above.
    The 3 sites include Rivera’s Soldiers.
    Attention to Kelly’s exact words:
    ” 3 sites that are monitored with approved posts by family members” says,
    1) Davidson family monitors all site posts
    2) Davidson family has approval rights as to site posts.

    Kelly divulging this editorial control wrt Rivera site
    just made DDS’ & TH’ tort cases wrt “family” defendants, in addition to Rivera.

    Yes ma’am.
    B

  29. Rose says:

    @TRuth
    wrt “says:
    May 22, 2015 at 1:47 pm”
    Glance at mcso 2016 budget, recently on line,
    for mcso investigative resources’ allocation.

  30. Malty says:

    Kyron was seen walking out of school with Terri and Kiara. Seen by a witness ?
    Is DY dreaming Or being fed stories Or lying. And why it really isn’t helping find Kyron for her to throw stuff at the wall.

  31. Rose says:

    It is possible Desiree suspects someone from her past, maybe provoked by her remarriage & homelife that came with it, jealousy or vengeance, whom she has felt unable to share with Tony & LE, so it MUST be Terri pointed to to keep her own past associations covered. my opinion as to possibilities for otherwise imo contrary-to-fact statements.

    O/T: sometimes you freak me out.
    B

  32. Rose says:

    Speaking of cars, cars, cars
    1) most of Kaine’s event sites.
    2) Davidsons’ fundwashing (wash object)
    3) Desiree’s primary & longterm job site til last year (handling
    bookkeeping)
    4) her brother’s job wasn’t it? (mechanic) plus motorcycles both Desiree & brother
    We have Terri’s ex, Ecker, the Datsun car club leader
    Kaine’s friend Rotan the motorcycle ducati club leader
    The Calif Intel employee friend of Kaine leading group on
    car factory tours in Europe.
    Then there were steroid factory/mj arrests with money laundering
    at a Portland dealorship with tentacles down to SW Oregon.

    In the abduction, trucks figure in the aftermath.
    and go outside to carry something in from the car.

  33. T. Ruth says:

    The Volunteer Services program provides for the recruitment, interviews, backgrounds, training, placement, and recognition
    to sustain a core base of nearly 280 volunteers, interns, and community partners supporting MCSO operations. Due to the
    nature of the duties involved in most placements, it is necessary to conduct an in-depth background review process prior to
    assignment, as well as ongoing review to ensure compliance with agency and county policies and procedures and to ensure
    the safety and security of operations. By monitoring the agency’s needs, Volunteer Services works to find professionals
    willing to share their time and expertise. Placement opportunities include involvement in jail programs such as education
    services, domestic violence prevention and safety planning, employment resources and transition services, alcohol/drug
    prevention and education, and 12-step meetings, which assist with transition services and the reduction of tensions within a
    facility/housing area. Other agency placements include assignments with River Patrol, the Cold Case Team, Citizen Patrol
    in the Gorge, Human Trafficking, Enforcement Records and other support services.

    https://multco.us/budget/fy-2016-chairs-proposed-budget

    @Rose, I’m not sure what you wanted me to look at in the MCSO 2016 budget, but I thought the above was interesting. Sounds like they need volunteers to help with various departments, including the Cold Case Team. Anyone up Portland way interested? I think I’d enjoy doing that sort of thing in my spare time, even if it just involved some filing, or researching, but I’m too many miles away. Anything I could do to help find the missing for sure. (It has been 44 years since a friend of mine went missing, and I will never be able to forget that she too, still needs to be found.)

  34. T. Ruth says:

    (From Rose’s link above)
    (snipped, more @link)

    Marion County deputies looking for man who attempted to abduct child

    The sheriff’s office described the man to be a “thin, black male adult, 20 to 30 years old, with short curly hair, no facial hair and a nose piercing. He was wearing long pants, Adidas shoes and a black sweatshirt.”

    The man had a distinct marking on his face or neck that looked like a tattoo or possibly a birthmark shaped like a bird or skull.

    The man’s vehicle could be a charcoal or gray 2009 Acura with two doors and tinted windows and a green triangle hanging from the rear view mirror and cigarettes were seen in the center console.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/05/marion_county_seeks_help_in_fi.html#incart_river_mobileshort

    tattoo like a bird or skull? Does a skull look like a bird? Hope they find this dude, that’s a pretty good description of his car and his person.

  35. T. Ruth says:

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/310115124314557439/

    Hmmm, this one does look like a bird and skull.

  36. Rose says:

    It seems to me the only way to progress this case is the LE led (not mcso) town meeting of all attendees between 8:45-930 am, grouped & prioritized by the rooms they were in as to relevance, to revisit a composite sketch, composite behavioral description, and track the whereabouts of the lone male who asked for kyron’s outdoor assistance. This should aleays have been a criminal case focused on profiling & identifying that man, and if known, tracking his postSciFair whereabouts.

  37. Amys Sister says:

    Desiree Davidson Young
    Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn’t Kyron? Where’s Kyron? I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from….the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where’s Kyron?

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971
    ___________

    Obviously Desiree’s portrayal of time in the above statement is misleading, which is bothersome since nothing but facts should matter when a child is missing.

    That said, it’s likely Desiree is saying to Terri, “We have witnesses that saw you leave the building with Kyron” and it likely has something to do with Kyron being seen near the truck with two men in the parking lot, a statement Desiree made years ago.

    We could sift those statements down into a possible scenario… after being seen in Skyline Elementary that morning while taking the famous science fair photo Terri left the building with Kyron after which Kyron returned to the school where he was seen and photographed without her (per Blink having viewed said time stamped image(s)) before he went missing.

    Why not just SAY that??? I can believe the above scenario happened and still believe Terri set up Kyron’s disappearance because she wanted him out of her life. I don’t need lies to support Desiree and wanting Kyron to be found.

    It appears more and more that Desiree is building her house on sand.

    LE has an obligation to update the public and clarify the events of that morning.

    AS- I know you have the opinion you do- and as you know, I respect that. I have come to learn through the years that if I ever felt compelled to “change” someone’s opinion to agree with mine it likely was due to ego- or maybe I was not so sure of my theory in the first place. If I thought there was something I could do to change opinions to progress Kyron’s case- I might make an exception.

    I do not believe in the current climate (meaning folks have an adversarial interest to truth) is going to change anytime soon, unfortunately for Kyron.

    So my opinion of why DY is not “misleading”, but outright lying, about events she has knowledge of doesn’t matter- but she 100% is doing so and therefore, I don’t care why. In my view, she is thwarting efforts she professes to be her motivation in the first place. If one takes just her last full interview- the Dr. Phil show, she has a completely different presentation of facts- in fact, both her and Kaine agreed that she “dropped him off”. I think what you are trying to say is that potentially Desiree is behaving this way because she is trying to send some obtuse message ( which may or may not be info only known to her and ?)

    At the risk of repeating myself, and I say this with love and compassion in my heart for the loss they are enduring, or ignoring- I am not sure which, that neither one of Kyron’s parents are doing everything they can, know how to do, have been advised to do in some instances to progress this case to find their child.

    Nearing the 5 year mark- you will not find anyone able to prove me wrong on that, and that is what hurts my heart so much. This investigation is hibernating because Kyron’s parents have agenda needs that make that ok.

    You said:

    I don’t need lies to support Desiree and wanting Kyron to be found.

    It appears more and more that Desiree is building her house on sand.

    I wish I could figure out a way to simulate a global echo, sigh.

    B

  38. Malty says:

    @Rose
    Thank God those children got away Girl Scout cookies Really I guess these creeps will
    Try any thing

    Any way thanks for your answer about the Kelly and family post,
    I guess I can stop blaming
    FaceBook for these sites and posts If the Family approves and monitors that answers
    A lot of questions for me

    Have you looked up this KW From Tenn she wares lots of hats. The one that got my attention
    Was writer She wants to meet Terri

  39. cd says:

    Rose says:
    May 23, 2015 at 12:48 am
    -snip
    On a separate note, I want to remind you all that there are a lot of Kyron Facebook sites out there representing the wrong information, so please be cautious when following those pages. Outside of my site here, there are only 3 sites that are monitored with approved posts by family members of Kyron. This is the place where you will find updates on him during the ongoing investigation, any search plans or fundraising events and Law Enforcement approved fliers; Missing Kyron Horman Facebook site, Kyron Horman’s World Soldiers and bringkyronhome.org.

    http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman
    —————–
    To Kelleys credit I don’t think the sites she is telling people to avoid are pro TH sites (since all the ones I knew of have been cancelled). I think she is talking about the myriad of hater sites that have sprung up claiming to be about her missing nephew Kyron.
    These sites not part of an effort to find KY and bring him home They are just there to generate hatred and draw attention to the Bottom feeders who run them. Who would want their loved one’s memory associated with some of the demented people who have nothing better to do with their lives then spread lies and hatred.
    I am not going to post about these people anymore since just mentioning them probably gives them a thrill and they have already been given way to much attention.

  40. Rose says:

    @cd. “I think she is talking about the myriad of hater sites ”
    Yes, her effort to disclaim “hater” sites to avert charges by TH or DDS
    had, however, issues, because World Soldiers is the Mother of Terri
    Hate Sites (and her missive was quickly copied to the same Admin’s Roseburg, Eugene etc sites),
    and Kelly unfortunately said that Desiree both monitors and approves postings on WS.

  41. Rose says:

    “O/T: sometimes you freak me out. B”
    Ouch. And here I am on my sick bed
    wondering why I live on…..

    LOL. I apologize for my cryptique. I worded that poorly- but with the knowledge outside of your current health state that, “you get me.”

    You have a knack for picking up what I have not yet put down.
    Please live on, and with your normal plucky pithiness. If I have not told you lately, I adore you and the way you think, which includes plenty of times where we don’t agree.

    B

  42. Rose says:

    @Malty. “writer, She wants to meet Terri”
    Anyone who wants to meet Terri (or Kaine or Desiree)
    is by definition a nut job in my opinion.

  43. Rose says:

    What I appreciate about Blink of BOC is she boils things down to the essential heart, with decency:

    “At the risk of repeating myself, and I say this with love and compassion in my heart for the loss they are enduring, or ignoring- I am not sure which, that neither one of Kyron’s parents are doing everything they can, know how to do, have been advised to do in some instances to progress this case to find their child.
    ….This investigation is hibernating because Kyron’s parents have agenda needs that make that ok.”

    What concerns me are those bios’ (andtheir family members’) “agenda needs” which predated the abduction.
    After the abduction, imo the bios’ are no worse than MCSO or DA’s agenda needs
    to the extent ALL have interfered with an effective criminal onvestigation. If Kyron “came back” I think he should absolutely be under DHS’ Court-ordered supervision until he is 18, maybe initially placed in a “safe” home.

    I know there are some folks on here that believe Kyron is alive, apparently secreted away somewhere. I respect that. What I do not respect, is the folks that have that opinion as if it is inline with his parents beliefs. It is not. Who really believes that any parent believes their child is an active captive somewhere and behaves this way- to include, no attempts escalate this investigation passed- “the stepmom did it” AND she did it with “the other ginger” cause gingers kidnap kids.

    Yes, I am being ridiculous but is it that really far afield from what has transpired here?
    B

  44. Rose says:

    @Blink. Pretty much zero LE attention has been paid to Desiree’s past associates (and you alluded she was in rehab in WA) most likely due to her currect association with a “detective.” I mean her brother got in a street fight outside a Medford bar (where his pool team shoots) with an “ex” who was arrested. Surely Desiree had exes other than Kaine.

    Yes, she does.
    B

  45. Rose says:

    Bruce McCain’s argument was mcso is 80% a corrections agency and has negligible investigations resources.
    Their budget substantiates that & makes me wonder why small towns merge. They should have done interagency agreements with PPD imo. Fascinating find wrt volunteers TRuth. Looks like most are corrections-centered too. I wonder who’s a Cold Case volunteer? Retired LE?

  46. Malty says:

    Malty- if it’s ok with you, I would rather not discuss that here- it becomes a blog within a blog sort of thing and with little effort editors found that individual is not credible in several statements that were made publicly.
    B

  47. T. Ruth says:

    @cd says:
    May 23, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    (snip)

    I am not going to post about these people anymore since just mentioning them probably gives them a thrill and they have already been given way to much attention.

    *************
    My sentiments exactly. Ever since they appeared in the courtroom in Roseburg, I realized their input value in this case: 0

    It is interesting however, that Kyron’s World Soldiers (site self monitored by the Desiree’s & her sister’s families, according to Kelly) are directly connected to the car washes and the car washes which are being performed to raise money for Kyron’s searches led by none other than Desiree Young herself, and which include the persons who run all those other hate/stalking sites. Because it sounds to me like Kelly is telling the public, *we are not responsible for those *other* sites.* Obviously they felt the need to say that, so why not distance yourself from those people, if you don’t want the public to think you are part of their hate filled, cyber and physically stalking websites?

    IMHO, Kelly & Desiree, and whomever else is running Kyron’s World Soldiers (as well as BKH and MKH) should simply ban the hate mongers. Why not? That’s what’s curious. Seems to me it would be simple enough to have them all shut down by FB based on the fact that it is HER son that is missing and she doesn’t want the connection, so why don’t they? I’m afraid the answer is truthfully, they support them in their heart of hearts. Sad affairs indeed.

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