Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage

Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing,  Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.

Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW,  a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.

In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud-  the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper,  Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.

Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.

 

 

BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.

 

 

 

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15,021 Comments

  1. Rose says:

    no wonder this artist in love with natural materials
    is visually offended by the chaotically-displayed plastic
    and paper memorial artifacts.
    http://www.billvolckening.com/Bill_Volckening/About.html

  2. thatkewlgirl says:

    This is what should have been the headline for Lynne Terry’s article on OLive:

    “Kaine Horman said detectives are no longer focused on her.”

  3. Rose says:

    @TKG. You were quite the info source 54 min ago
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_case_as_5th_anniv.html#comments
    I hope others catch it before it’s deleted.

    My kid has 1st waitressing job & gets off at 2 am. 14 hrs today, 12 yesterday.
    I’m her transport at 2, & now awake. Looking at O to see Desiree’s next …
    Wonder if she’s headed for Eugene?

    Imo Kaine contributed nothing on interview
    because he still says Terri did it and that’s not productive.
    He verified LE has not told him SZ’s identity.

  4. Rose says:

    That “coming Sunday” tease by tittilating Terry must refer to June 7, or she’s being edited for a change.
    Nothing new in her Kaine article except an affirmation SZ is unidentifued to Kaine. The Comments though
    have beought out much about Kaine that are relwvant to the family’s victimoligy and should therefore
    be in the public domain, except the Kaine-relevant info seems to all be gearsay straight from Terri’s mouth to an apparent acquaintance. Therefore the info is about as useful as Kaine’s inside dope that Terri drank at night. If the allegations about Kaine are true, it us unfathomable to me why Terri did not litigate custody long ago. Why didn’t she want that? Certainly Terry asked NO useful questions of Kaine. She also never once said about his current activities, that sounds a bit bizarre, can you elaborate? Anyway, I am niw a devoted fan of Volckening, his artistry and quilts.
    And am on board with his view that Kaine needs to wrap up that neglected junkyard at Edge. Volckening pointed out that the wall at the World Trade Ctr was up half as long.

  5. Rose says:

    Lynne Terry further explains what she intended to convey in her article:
    “Lynne Terry | The Oregonian/OregonLive I’m not so sure that’s the case. They are trying to find other leads because Terri walked out of her last polygraph, per Kaine, and hired Stephen Houze, one of Portland’s highest profile defense attorneys. She stopped cooperating with police after that. ”
    If she is unsure of the meaning of her quote of Kaine,
    Why not ask his meaning? Whynot as Sheriff Staton?
    This “reporter” is lame imo.

  6. Amys Sister says:

    In light of Kaine’s new admission to the public that focusing on Terri has been a dead end and she must have had an accomplice who they don’t yet know about, I would have to say that it’s possible Desiree has been left out of the LE loop for some time.

    I strongly believe the public deserves an investigative update with related information based on facts of this case from LE. It feels like we’ve been strung along with half truths and innuendo while a little boy is missing and a perp is free to harm other children.

    Nothing can hurt the case at this point and releasing that information will likely advance it.

    It’s time to bring Kyron home. Truly.

    AS-

    I am not sure that readers here understand the personal perspective you offer this discussion, over years, and I feel like me recapping it sounds like I am advertising in a particular direction so I will not. Please know I respect it greatly as I know many others do as well that advocate for Kyron here and elsewhere.

    You said it best, compassionately and succinctly and I have nothing to add but the brava.
    B

  7. Amys Sister says:

    Especially a description of the suspect. Release it already.

    I think acknowledgement of the suspect is critical. I am more interested in focusing on those witnesses and groups of individuals that THEY KNOW saw SZ and Kyron.

    I think I used the term “turning the Titanic around” at one point early on. I would like to offer that in that stretch of ocean, it would take time, but it was possible.

    B

  8. T. Ruth says:

    If he could, Kaine Horman would flip back the calendar five years and freeze the day his son vanished.

    On that day and the ones that followed, Kyron Horman’s disappearance dominated the news and prompted the biggest search-and-rescue in Oregon history. It went on for days and included 500 searchers and multiple agencies. People were on the lookout nationwide. Thousands of tips poured in.

    But with time, the intense interest has faded, Horman said. The billboard posters are gone. Many people no longer think of the blue-eyed, brown-haired boy with metal-framed glasses and an impish smile who was last seen at Skyline School when he was 7.

    Horman wants their attention again.

    “We don’t want people to forget,” he said. “We want resolution.”

    With the fifth anniversary of his son’s disappearance approaching Thursday, Horman is asking that anyone who knew Kyron – including teachers, baby sitters, friends and friends of friends — sit down again with police and share their recollections.

    (snipped, more @link)

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_case_as_5th_anniv.html

  9. T. Ruth says:

    snipped, again
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_case_as_5th_anniv.html

    Kaine Horman said detectives are no longer focused on her. He believes someone helped his ex-wife, though neither she nor anyone else has ever faced charges in the case.

    “She has become a dead end as far as making progress,” Horman said. “Someone else was involved. There’s someone we don’t know about.”

    “Someone they don’t know about” That leaves out TMH & Dede, so can someone tell me why it has taken 5 years to divulge this information? I have to say, I’m thinking this article alone might just move Kyron’s case along. I hope so!

  10. T. Ruth says:

    So, it appears that LE is now focused, finally, on SZ. You know, the SZ that DY and her supporters say did not exist. Someone else took that child out of the school, not TMH AND not Dede.

    I still wonder if LE have told DY & KH different stories of what transpired that day. Why would KH know they are looking for someone else, but not DY?

  11. thatkewlgirl says:

    And DY speaks out on OLive – appears we have dueling parents of Kyron Horman for publicity.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html#incart_story_package

    *snip*

    She said they’ve turned up evidence implicating Terri Moulton Horman, who was married to Kaine Horman at the time Kyron went missing. Terri Horman took the boy to a science fair before class at Skyline School and then walked him to his classroom before leaving.

    “We’ve found evidence to suggest that Terri might have been trying to get rid of things connected to Kyron,” Young said, referring to the previous searches. “She’s not going to talk until we have evidence to confront her. We have to find it.”

    **end** more at link

  12. erose says:

    What possible things connected to Kyron would TH scatter about?

    snip>

    “We’ve found evidence to suggest that Terri might have been trying to get rid of things connected to Kyron,” Young said, referring to the previous searches. “She’s not going to talk until we have evidence to confront her. We have to find it.”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html

  13. Rose says:

    Early today in Comments Lynne Terry corrected your reading of the article TKG.
    She said she wasn’t sure that takeaway was Kaine’s intent. Having talked to him, she suggested
    his intent was Terri is a dead end to LE only because she retained a criminal defense attorney and
    ceased to cooperate.

  14. Rose says:

    Just to clarify Mom 3.0 wrt “–
    “…keeping in mind Rose the very same thing could and has been said IRT TH-
    Should we rescind our support OF TH *until* she can make herself more available more helpful?”
    To clarify my own position, I don’t support Terri in any respect. she may be guilty. she has Houze, her parents & son, and a few passionate followers online to support her. I do support anyone’s rights to Constitutional protections, including legal privacy interests. I do object to a totally F’d up investigation and apparent corruption in MCSO, MCDA, the local judiciary, and other government entities in Oregon in terms of their impacts on this family.

  15. Rose says:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html#comments
    Another completely lame article with many of the Comments deleted. Sorry I missed them. No follow up Qs
    re “evidence.” Getting rid of things connected to Kyron? In the MCSO evidence room now? DNA connected?
    Hope Terri never let him throw granola bar wrappers out the car window on the way to school.

  16. Bumble says:

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-207/#comment-2244283
    *******************************
    @Rose,

    Please include a link when quoting. I found the article which you quoted, and I think it is poorly written. It says Kiara has brown hair, however if I recall her hair was red like her mother’s. Could it really have changed much since those pics of the Uberthon? Also, it says that Lindsay Baum disappeared coming home from school, however iirc she was walking home from a friend’s house.
    I think the part which you quoted was probably meant to say she stumbled over questions regarding where he went when she left him at school, but who knows?

    I believe this is the article you were quoting:
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_case_as_5th_anniv.html

  17. Rose says:

    It is interesting Young interjected her eldest son into this article and revealed she moved him to Medford just after the abduction. I always wondered what developmental impact leaving his friends & social circles, teachers, guidance counselor, 3-year HS track team, & school had on him right before the important Senior year & when college apps were due, to live with a mother in profound grief & turmoil and without experience in school relations or college experience herself. all that’s been online publically was that he moved out to attend community college and cohabit with a girlfriend while still a teen, and I wondered what plans the McCulloughs might have made with him had he remained in Portland.

  18. Malty says:

    I just came from Olive
    Lynne Terry wrote up that interview then says it says something different in the comments
    The pink spirit was there Of course
    From what I read Kaine said focus on Terri is dead end After 5 years of hounding her and no new evidence
    To show for all the efforts. It just makes sense to start looking for some one else. Even the pink S Should start
    Thinking about changing her efforts if she really loves Kyron as much as she claims
    What can be lost by trying to find SZ Time? So far 5 years has gotten no where what’s some more Time to find whoever SZ is
    I am glad to hear from Kaine finally

  19. Malty says:

    What to do about the Wall of Hope Someone said awhile back to replace it with a memorial stone type of memory
    Place I go with that Idea A quiet place to remember Kyron and people an still bring gifts Cost? Probably
    Cost a lot

  20. meg says:

    Amys Sister says:
    May 31, 2015 at 12:24 pm
    Especially a description of the suspect. Release it already.

    I think acknowledgement of the suspect is critical. I am more interested in focusing on those witnesses and groups of individuals that THEY KNOW saw SZ and Kyron.

    I think I used the term “turning the Titanic around” at one point early on. I would like to offer that in that stretch of ocean, it would take time, but it was possible.

    B
    ——
    I posted here back when the case first started. And I follow along hoping and praying for an update. I lived and worked in the area. I shopped at that Fred Meyer and worked out at that 24 hour fitness. This was all too close to home for me.

    With that said that was going to be my question after reading your updates Blink. If he hasn’t been seen since being seen with SZ outside of the school. Why dont we have a description of SZ????

    Because SZ looks or resembles roughly 25 ( that is of those I am aware of, but of the 51 men on the list, all were investigated by the FBI) men there that have been identified. He could have altered his appearance that day as well. It is my understanding now from Kaine’s recent statements that he has not been identified by LE and therefore one deduces he was not on the list, although I have known he was not listed for years.
    B

    That said

  21. meg says:

    Also any chance you would look into the Chelsea Bruck case? She is a friend of mines cousin. She went missing after a Halloween party and her body was found a few weeks back. They have a sketch but not much else at the moment from my understanding.

    meg- I am very sorry to hear of your loss. Unfortunately my work, school schedule and my Summer family commitments have me at at least a 6 month backlog on new, private cases. I wish I had more time.
    B

  22. MockingbirdSings says:

    Could someone repost the link to the article with Kaine’s statement in it? I seem to have missed it and going back didn’t help me. (I’m sure it’s there somewhere.)

    thatkewlgirl says:
    May 30, 2015 at 11:15 pm

    ^^ on above link ^^

    QUOTE:

    “She has become a dead end as far as making progress,” Horman said. “Someone else was involved. There’s someone we don’t know about.”

    And bam… there it is… and this is why so many media sites are pulling back on the ‘blame TH’ headlines…

  23. T. Ruth says:

    @blink

    I have posts dating back to 5/29 that have not yet surfaced….problmea?

    Everything I have is posted T.Ruth. Maybe click older comments at the bottom?
    B

  24. T. Ruth says:

    Sorry, was supposed to read “problema”? (crap i almost typed it the same way again…..PROBLEMA is what I meant.)

  25. MockingbirdSings says:

    thatkewlgirl says:
    May 30, 2015 at 4:55 pm

    What I can remember, when my son was in school in the Beaverton area, if he was absent and I hadn’t called in an excused absence, we would get a Robocall late afternoon, early evening – same day. If I called or previously notified of doc appt or illness, we got no call about unexcused absence.

    So it is odd that DY says Ms Porter claims she was sent an excused absence email by TH, but yet Kyron’s name was put on the Robocall list (as DY claimed was called out three days later.) That is not the district’s protocol for unexcused absences. This unexcused absence call info just doesn’t ring truthful somewhere.

    Just to clarify TKG- Ms. Porter is not making any claim- DY young is.
    B
    ——————————————-

    Skyline did not have an autodial (Robocall) phone system in 2010 even though PPS had it available and it had been used in most schools for years. They said they did not have a truancy problem so had never requested it be set up at Skyline. I assume that was a principal’s choice. It was set up after June 4th.

    SO – (1) who made that call, IF there was one on the following Monday?
    (2) who knew Skyline did not have same day notification of parents when a student was absent and unexcused – and that other elementary schools did?

    (Parents had 3 days to clear an unexcused absence, but I think that was 3 school days and would not have included the weekend.)

  26. T. Ruth says:

    Amys Sister says:
    May 31, 2015 at 12:23 pm

    In light of Kaine’s new admission to the public that focusing on Terri has been a dead end and she must have had an accomplice who they don’t yet know about, I would have to say that it’s possible Desiree has been left out of the LE loop for some time.

    ***************

    AmyS: I posted this earlier but it’s not showing up, I agree 100%, there is something sooooooo different about the way the two bios are looking at Kyron’s disappearance, I keep wondering if they were given differetn versions of the truth that day and why?

  27. MockingbirdSings says:

    Well, I didn’t realize there were 2 separate stories. I found the Lynne Terry stories re each parent, but the videos don’t work for me. He says they are looking for someone who helped Terri. That doesn’t seem new to me – I thought he said something like that a long time ago.

  28. Mom3.0 says:

    Malty thank you-

    I share yr dismay and confusion

    Nothing in this case makes very much sense- and honestly when talking about DY I dont think sense enters much into it- she is more or less on an autopilot of feelings

    A&P

  29. erose says:

    PPS teacher says…

    mathman
    7 hours ago

    If Terri did not have something to do with his disappearance, then she one of the most wronged people in the history of modern media. Apparently, there is a lot of conjecture but there is far from any real evidence that she was involved. I am amazed that there are so many comments on here that can not name a single thing that portrays her guilt but they condemn her none the less. I think it is suppose to work the other way around. I have no idea if she is guilty but it feels like we have all been led down a media release path so we will feel she is. It does seem to be a one sided presentation. I have not yet read a single thing thing that should be taken to a grand jury. ****************I know this, PPS didn’t even have phone lines in my classroom or take roll more than once a day until AFTER this. It was a direct result of this case*******************************

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/sheriffs_office_offers_50000_r.html

  30. RedRose says:

    I still just don’t get it — people saw Kyron with “a person” – somebody somewhere – one of those witnesses – must have known WHO the person was. Do they want more proof? Or what?

    (I’ve asked this before, so am prolly just talking to myself here, lol)

    @Rose says: May 30, 2015 at 12:26 pm
    @Blink. Are you saying his last sighting was after he exited
    the South entrance to help a male, & you have spoken to
    the person who saw him outside at that location?

    I have interviewed witnesses, and reviewed some LE correspondence involving same, who saw Kyron exit with SZ and did not see him after that. As far as I know, and I believe is consistent with what LE and the DA tried to keep out of the divorce/custody case, is that Kyron was not seen inside Skyline following that.
    B

  31. Rose says:

    I assume Desiree & Kaine are on the same page, but she thinks the accomplice is DeDe.
    Soldier Spirit did rag Kaine on her FB for making a statement about Terri which Terri &
    her minions are misinterpreting in blogs.

    I don’t see DY admitting anywhere there is another person they don’t know about. But it does appear to me they are both admitting there is no evidence against TH “with which to confront her.”

    I don’t feel I have misinterpreted anything- recently I am reading outright lies and I would seriously like to know what the hope of accomplishment is in doing that. I do think that this is some of the lamest reporting I have ever read in any case.

    I mean- is it that illogical to follow up a comment like Kaine’s- where he finally confirms there is a SZ with a “what makes you think that?”

    There is a someone out there who was there that day he believes abducted his child- doesn’t it stand to reason that if a person does that, and they do not know their identity, there is risk it will happen again?

    That is pretty clear and convincing evidence to me that they do not have a scintilla of evidence past some hack’s “impressions.”

    I do not wish to be rude- frankly I am minorly encouraged by Kaine’s admission, but O’Donnell and MCSO have got to answer for ruining TH’s life- and separating her from her child. All the tip of the iceburg I know. This subterfuge is allowing someone to hide in plain site and putting another at risk potentially.

    And- there’s the fact that a little boy is still missing.

    o/t I really hope to hear ATG is ok.
    B

    B

  32. Rose says:

    Max & Lynne continue to share their performance review Comment click feeding trough:
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/06/kyron_horman_case_forevermore.html#incart_river_mobile

  33. Rose says:

    @Malty. It seems in Comments, Lynne has changed the body of her Dad story twice (url above).
    The first time she said Dad’s intent wrt “dead end” was Terri hired a lawyer and stopped cooperating.
    The second time Lynne corrected the story to read:
    “Lynne Terry | The Oregonian/OregonLive 22 hours ago
    @CactusFlower @Momentoftruth @EdYoung
    Kaine said that Terri is not their focus in the sense that she won’t talk.
    They’re trying to find new threads. That doesn’t mean they aren’t interested in her.”
    Again attributing the broadened focus to Terri’s “refusal to talk.”
    I bet her corrections are due to texts or calls from Desiree.
    anyway Lynne’s drunk the bios’ koolaid, therefore nothing she writes
    (which is nothing new anyway) has credibility to me.

  34. Rose says:

    Having read Comments of those brought out by the Dad and Mom stories, likely based on Terri’s horses mouth, it seems to me aspects of their histories are relevant to the family’s victimology, so I don’t understand the privacy cloak in the press as compared to Terri. First there are any low lifes Desiree tooted around with before & after Greg & Kaine; people understand that’s all behind her, but her marriage could have triggered jealousy or revenge. Then someone alleged among many extramarital sexual hookups, there was one constant female spanning both marriages whom he visited after the abduction and before leaving Terri. Talk about motive: had she had children, could she have children, was she married, and so on–all relevant to jealousy or revenge. Then there’s the steroid dealing network out of the gym. Who was that steroid dealer? Where is he or she now? There are Intel employees Kaine might have terminated.
    There are those Tony put in prison, with grievances. Ground has been lost by “the parents passed their plots” storyline and undue privacy wrt antisocial past acts & associates.

    I noticed that DY did not repeat her assertion about an excuse email to Porter in her interview and nobody asked Kaine. I also noticed she stated the search would be coordinated by MCSO SAR but that they would not participate and that it was due to how large of an area that needs to be covered. Is she for real? The search effort that was mounted for Kyron was the product of MCSO SAR and one of the largest in Oregon history, if not “THE” largest. They have jurisdiction and are re-offering a $50K reward I presume was from funds received initially when they set up an account. If there was a scintilla of a credible lead, they would be searching first and advising later.

    I also noticed that the question she was asked that allegedly had her “fail” a polly has changed from three ( iirc) to one, as well as the actual question.
    B

  35. Rose says:

    OT using husband’s phone (mine fried), I have now turned off word prediction, the grammar rearranger, spelling correction (changed “polys” to “plots” and “are there any” to “there are any”), caps prediction & all that frustrating stuff, but typing is better on a tiny phone.

    O/T I had my iphone stolen out of my pocketbook at Costco on Friday. It is my lameness to have an open bag with my phone sticking out of the top, yes, but let me just vent that the dude that stole it had that thing off in less than one minute. My iwatch alerted me they were disconnected, I stopped a lady and asked her to call my phone by 1:30 and the damn thing was off already. And yes, it was a dude, who beat it out of there in the time it took me to get to the front in an attempt to flag him down. Creeper was there to steal a phone. I should have seen that coming- who the hell buys sparkling iced tea. LOL.
    B

  36. Rose says:

    @mbs. re the Monday robocall. I bet it was set up at Skyline by Monday & instituted. The Monday robocall would not relate to the Friday absence as Desiree alludes. He was still on the roll Monday, marked absent, and the robocall was triggered about Monday’s absence, imo. Cruel to the Hormans but expectable when a mass system is instituted. Keefer could have warned them.
    I wonder why Desiree was camped out next to Terri in her home on Monday? After all, she’d told Tony to get her out of there. I bet Tony was playing Wile E Coyote detecting from the inside in collaboration with the resident mcso buffoon.

    It is my understanding they ere camped out there for days, as well as several Medford detectives from Tony’s PD.
    B

  37. T. Ruth says:

    It is my understanding they ere camped out there for days, as well as several Medford detectives from Tony’s PD.
    B

    **************

    Medford detectives camped out at the Horman’s home? Hadn’t heard that before. Good grief, what a mess.

    Yes to the Young’s- and I don’t know for how long but yes, a handful of Medford detectives were at the Hormans.
    B

  38. Ode says:

    o/t I really hope to hear ATG is ok.
    B
    ******
    I am concerned as well…Please let your family and yourself be safe ATG.

  39. T. Ruth says:

    Kaine Horman has said before that Terri probably had help, that’s not what’s new hear. What IS new, is that he is admitting there is an SZ. So why didn’t the reporter ask him about that? Terri Horman did not remove Kyron from that school. Dede Spicher did not remove Kyron from that school. Kaine Horman admits they have no idea who the person was who removed Kyron from that school. Why isn’t that a headline?

    Whether or not this SZ is related in some way to TMH or DDS or KH or TY or DY is secondary, IMO. WHO is this SZ? Release a description already! I don’t care if this person was so facially nondescript that he looked like 1000 other people. How tall was he? What was he wearing? What color was his hair (if he had any)? What color were his eyes? Did he have facial hair? How old did he appear to be? What was his voice like? The only reason I can see for not releasing a description, is that SZ was never seen. IOW, the man who asked Kyron for help with something from his truck, was identified and was cleared, so now there is someone else who took Kyron, someone no one can ID. That’s the only thing that makes sense to me at this point.

    Is it possible that whomever asked Kyron to help him get something out of his vehicle (truck? can’t remember) did exactly that and Kyron helped and he (Kyron) went back into the school and then was abducted by someone else shortly thereafter and the person asking for the help had nothing to do with the abduction? Or is it possible that scenario was a signal to someone else in waiting, in order to identify Kyron, and once identified outside, Kyron was followed by someone else and then abducted?

    IDK, but these games need to stop being played. LE needs to come out with a new timeline, indicating what went on that morning. Good grief, they don’t need to puke out everything, they just need to inform the public, Kyron’s witnesses that morning, of what they know, so that if it is possible, someone’s bell will ring and the one tip they need will come out.

    I hate this case.

    Very well put and it does give the perception that everyone is playing fast and loose with this investigation.

    As God is my witness I do not know how TH has not filed a civil suit in this case. I know why she doesn’t, and my guess is that doing so would be against Houze’s advice but on the mfh basis alone- they never met the burden to support the allegation from the get go.

    I mean Staton himself admitted that they boned this investigation.
    B

  40. T. Ruth says:

    I don’t know the law, but having sat on a GJ here in OR some years ago, we were empaneled for 3 months. It was supposed to be twice a week, but they added another day due to a huge amount of meth arrests. We were used on one case (murder) as what I believe was an investigative jury. After some time, the case was simply moved from our agenda and we were told at that time, we could be brought back in at any point in time to continue it, or not. End of story.

    I was scratching my head at the time, thinking how in the heck am I going to remember (just from my notes) what exactly we’d already heard from all the witnesses we had heard from, say a year from now or even longer. We were never called back, I unfortunately didn’t follow the case to see if it was ever solved, but I never read anything in the paper about it, so as far as I know it remains unsolved, this was around 10 years ago.

    Anywho, my point is I think recording all GJ testimony is an excellent idea, I hope the law passes.

  41. T. Ruth says:

    @Rose says:
    June 1, 2015 at 9:47 am

    Makes perfect sense, and yes why didn’t PPS warn them of the potential call. Heartbreaking indeed.

  42. T. Ruth says:

    @MbS or vw

    Is it common for a parent to send an email to a teacher in regard to a scheduled absence?

  43. T. Ruth says:

    During the investigation of the other potential persons of interest, the team realized that some evidence — namely phone records and computer log-on information from Skyline School the day Kyron went missing — were not kept by the school district as the sheriff’s office didn’t request the preservation of those records.

    Staton and Gates said they did obtain other information from the school via a search warrant submitted to Superintendent Carole Smith, but could not comment on the school phone records or computer data being preserved.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/06/kyron_horman_task_force_to_dis.html

  44. T. Ruth says:

    august 6, 2010:

    KGW has learned that Skyline Elementary School principal Ben Keefer appeared before the grand jury on Friday.

    Earlier this week, investigators asked the Portland Public School district for a list of employees. KGW has learned that several other school employees have been subpoenaed by the grand jury.

    (snipped)

    http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11756996/

    I wonder two things here. First if in fact they asked for a list of ALL PPS employees (that’s a huge amount of people), why were they doing so? Second, if it was only a list of Skyline employee’s and the article was just written poorly, why on earth would that take until them until August? They had allegedly already interviewed all the Skyline employees right?

    So I’m guessing the article is correct and that LE asked for a list of ALL PPS employees. Why? Anybody have any ideas?

    Logan Storm would be my guess.
    B

  45. meg says:

    Catching up. But I am guessing that the reason why DY is still hanging onto Terri despite Kains statements is that there arent any other leads. As a mother if Terri was the only lead that had ever been mentioned to me I dont think I could just “accept” that she wasn’t the subject when or if a LEO came to me and said whoops we were wrong.

  46. MockingbirdSings says:

    T. Ruth says:
    June 1, 2015 at 12:47 pm
    @MbS or vw

    Is it common for a parent to send an email to a teacher in regard to a scheduled absence?
    ——————————–

    I don’t know how common, but it was acceptable then. After 2010, I believe the new policy said if a parent sent an email about attendance, it should always go to the office, or the office and the teacher.

  47. T. Ruth says:

    Good thought, but Logan didn’t work for PPS, he worked for Beaverton School District. I think? I don’t know that he ever worked for PPS, anyone?

  48. T. Ruth says:

    Oh wait, maybe it is connected to Storm. Perhaps they were looking at his acquaintances and attempting to match any of them to a PPS employee.

  49. cd says:

    Rose says:
    May 31, 2015 at 8:37 pm
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html#comments
    Another completely lame article with many of the Comments deleted. Sorry I missed them. No follow up Qs
    re “evidence.” Getting rid of things connected to Kyron? In the MCSO evidence room now? DNA connected?
    Hope Terri never let him throw granola bar wrappers out the car window on the way to school.
    ——–
    I think its a shame to waste all of those resources, time and money on searches that are NOT being done to find KY. I think DY only searches for evidence against Terri and because of a mis-guided notion that her searches somehow scare Terri.

    ————
    Stay tuned?
    Who has ever heard of a grieving mother supposedly looking for their child say “Stay tuned” when talking about a vigil for their missing son. DY acts like this is some sort of photo op for her.

    -snip
    Desiree Davidson Young This timeline is not accurate, stay tuned folks. Watch for the 5 year vigil on the 4th.”

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=825449750878281&id=161645780592018&comment_id=825498454206744&offset=0&total_comments=3&comment_tracking={%22tn%22%3A%22R0%22}

  50. Rose says:

    re “As God is my witness I do not know how TH has not filed a civil suit in this case. ”
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments
    It would have to be a federal suit of some nature alleging constitutional rights violations.
    I like that 1983 thing where you can get money damages from individuals. The State Court system in Oregon is thorough corrupted by cronies as Rodgers pointed out in Will. week.

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