Hannah Graham Body Located: Sources Say Tip Led To Her Recovery
Breaking News: The body of Hannah Elizabeth Graham has been recovered.
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left out Afr-Am when I said
I doubt there were any A-As in the upper or mid echelons of the Cville judiciary in 1975
Sunshine
Giving your daughter safety information regarding the cabs is vital. I would like to add another thing to her safety arsenal. That is, in Chicago, it is important to know the location to which you are being transported and the most direct way to drive there. The cabs are often driven by foreign nationals who will try to plead ignorance when they take a fare in the wrong direction to extend the costs.
Evansville to Chicago can be a long ride during peak traffic periods. Lakeshore Drive sometimes is the quick route and other times it is not.
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/08/nyregion/1989-elections-virginia-contest-man-lawrence-douglas-wilder-confrontation.html
Buried in here I read the initial fair housing laws (end to housing sevregation) in VA was the battle of the 70s.
And indeed the initial law was only passed in 1972.
http://www.varealtor.com/sites/default/files/Specialites/2011PMCC/2011PMAC_FairHousingPropMgt_Washington.pdf
So in 1975 it was imminently expectable that Cville African Americans needed housing expansion in an outlying area, expectably single race, and also very expectable that white neighbors would go beyond the mat to fight same.
Bedford Moore, wrt his culture, & monetary investment, and the “oreservationist” neighbor (any
port in a storm) could do no other. Moore’s UVA status probably saved the day.
@Aunt Annie says: “My own “fake name” for this blog AUNT ANNIE is my great aunt Annie Leake Tuttle. Chosen because of my great and deep respect for an ancestor whose traits I much admire and aspire to emulate.”
Small world; I used to post here on Morgan’s case (and Kyron’s) years ago, but now just choose to read. Just had to come on today to say that I am an East Coast girl raised in Halifax and, back in the day, your Aunt Annie was a topic covered in our school curiculum (as well as “Africville” formed as a result of the underground railway) as part of our Nova Scotia history topics. Then, in University, I did an essay on your Aunt as she, her deeds, and travels intrigued me. Your Aunt Annie is burried just up the road from my family cottage in Cumberland County Nova Scotia and I have actually visited her grave-site to include a photo of her final place of rest into my essay. Left her a mixed bouquet of spring flowers. Much respect. Small world. Veronica
Blink, any updates/information on what evidence may have been found in the abandoned (I assume) taxi van? Or is that something we need to be patient to learn during his trial?
It is still hard to fathom how any serious LE investigation in 2009 failed to have conversations with each and every taxi driver known to be at JPJ arena on that 2009 night in question at the earliest possible moment. This was a network of people who held critical witness to people, time and place. If not to check out LE suspicions about the taxi drivers themselves and how one of them may have been involved, then to preserve for the record what each may have witnessed related to the situation of Morgan’s departure from JPJ.
When I think back on that total lapse of investigation it occurs to me that if LE had jumped on the issue of taxi drivers as soon as Morgan was known to be missing, a critical nexus of information could have been developed, possibly changing the outcome. Looking back on this case, that was an irreversible and disastrous mistake in LE judgement.
I know we in Virginia don’t like to point blame, but this point has got to be made again, and the public deserves an investigation into this huge lapse in LE judgement from that 2009 investigation.
Overlooking the taxis needs to be highlighted, coupled with the other huge mistake in judgement—– the road rage incident being minimized by the ACA.
Agreed.
B
Sunshine
Edit on the location of the Northwestern University campus. It is Evingston not Evansville. I have been on that campus many times and should not have made such a mistake.
Did you see the arrest of Delvin Barnes for the abduction in Philly, with connections to VA and wanted on capital charges for an abduction and rape with inanimate object on October 1st in Charles City VA? What in the world is going on with my beloved Virginia?
But thank goodness that lovely nursing assistant was found alive!!
leslie,in answer to your question , the arrest record in al. is actually lastasha Nicole Matthews ,not matthew ,the current age would be 27. I think his sister is older than that?i have seen her name spelled different ways ,though. I wonder if she used different spellings ,or if its just people misspelling her name. I wasn’t sure what a twilight case was either I thought twilight as in the movie it thrust the writer into the spotlight , so this would be a spotlight case for the atty. I was joking ,”more like twilight zone”. I saw jesse ,light up and agree whem camplios was implying this was a national attention case.
A Texas Grandfather says:
November 3, 2014 at 9:23 pm
I think LE needs to address this possibility and either prove it or disprove it. It is just too bad that in cases such as this, that advanced interrogation techniques cannot be used.
Hahaha, I’m with you ATG. Can’t they give him just a little advanced slap on the face a little bit? After the atrocities he has committed? That can’t be considered inhumane or illegal, now can it?
Knowing accuracy is paramount….the serial rapist who steamed havoc in Charlottesville…some yes back…now incarcerated…who worked st Harris teeter is named Nathanial Washington not Antonio
leslie- apparently you are not reading my comments to you. You can only have one name here, I changed it back again. I would appreciate it if you would stick to it from now on. It is a hard rule of mine.
Respectfully, you have got to check your posts before you hit submit- let’s keep the place neat please.
Lastly- it is Nathan Antonio Washington, but he largely went by Antonio to family and friends.
B
Charlottesville Human Rights commission has been in place for over one year. Below is some background of the issue –white paper. Only seems to be interested in employment and housing discrimination along racial lines, not sexual discrimination. Interesting aspect of Morgan’s and Hannah’s “human rights” and will this Commission investigate?
https://pages.shanti.virginia.edu/ucare/files/2011/06/Commissionproposalv9NOAPPENDICESsentpdf.pdf
http://www.wsls.com/story/27308845/accused-abductor-jesse-matthews-meets-with-legal-team
Meeting with new legal team. Guess Camblos decided he didn’t want to be the chief, huh?
Jesse L. Matthew linked to earlier assault via DNA from victim’s fingernail
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/suspect-in-u-va-case-linked-to-earlier-assault-via-dna-from-victims-fingernail/2014/11/06/e1efd010-65d9-11e4-bb14-4cfea1e742d5_story.html
@Jan. Actually Camblos strongly objected to
the Fairfax Judge appointing Fairfax Public Defenders
as Co-Counsel, much less making them Lead Counsel.
Camblos, and Jesse (he should give thanks to Judge)
had no choice.
god bless that fingernail
OT @Aunt Annie & Golavern.
Will find her full bio and feed to my progeny.
Thank you for aspects of her story &
influence.
@Susan.
It just struck me that Bedford Moore KNOWINGLY bought
investment property adjacent to the black-owned Carr tract.
what did he think the odds were Carr heirs would attempt to use to their
highest & best economic interests? And he knew in the 1970s he could easily defeat
development plans, I bet he offered to buy it first, & failed, so the
preservation tact.
Honestly didn’t change it or do anything..you changed it…I did not have any reason to try to keep that hat…I left it as is…some mistake…will stop posting at all I think
Leslie- that’s correct, I changed it back when you posted as “sallyann”. I have mentioned it now more than once. When you post where it asks for your name, you need to use leslie as you had previously or it will autopopulate
B
OT @ Leslie fromsomeone who still thinks I am “new.”
I’ve messed up twice by history at least
when I mistyped my email.
Don’t take it personally, just remember to be leslie
when some change of air waves asks for an
email redo.
https://paw.princeton.edu/memorials/57/46/index.xml
Thanks for the link Susan. This commission is set up to bring in federal funds for their operation. I doubt if they would ever do anything about the violation of the rights of Morgan or Hannah.
Alexandra
Your idea of advanced interrogation is nowhere near what could be done. I will leave it at that.
Who is Nicky?
Brenda Deane First of all I commend the Carr/Matthew Family for sending their sympathy to these families. I know Debbie and Nicky …
https://www.facebook.com/NBC29/posts/10152474875128753
@Susan. I just saw
susan says:
November 4, 2014 at 12:15 pm
Makes sense to me.
Btw did Bep actually extort $600,000 from Fleming?
Did he and Jane get that money?
Imo if so what an injustice.
With Bep’s distinguished cultural history, I have no doubt both racism & sexism
were part & parcel of his worldview imo, however expressed.
With the information about the Fairfax case regarding the DNA found under a fingernail, they should be first up in the prosecution of JM.
Once they have a conviction, then Albemarle County should follow.
In the intervening time, LE and prosecutor investigators should be checking the two or three university attacks and any others in the area that have not been solved. JM is not going anywhere. He will be in prison for a long time.
Sorry, found it, sister Latasha.
http://www.gcvfellowship.org/fellowship-2012-William-D-Rieley.cfm
http://www.rootsandrecall.com/york-county-sc/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files_mf/1360603378WalterBedfordMooreofYorkSC.pdf
Ran in the family. (segregated noblesse oblige,
Episcopal South, bridge, & Clubs)
35 years ago I thot such types were my role
models and bought my Henkel Harris. Shallow.
Now it is a different world. The
world that should have belonged to
Hannah & Morgan.
Hannah and Morgan are both photogenic. That is a fact, not just my opinion. It is also a fact that rapist do not always work alone. Bt the thinnest of standards those are factual statements.
It is my opinion they were taken because they are photogenic. It is also my opinion Jesse didn’t work alone and probably is not the brains behind this. I not only think he may have had help, we may have seen their faces in the videos.
I don’t want to speculate too much, but if more people are involved, they need to be held accountable. That’s my sole reason for writing this.
Googled per Susan’s instructions. This link presents the situation on the libel suit that Moore won.
snips>
Moore was a white, tenured, assistant professor in the Humanities Division of the School of Engineering at the University of Virginia during the 1975-76 academic year. His residence known as “Shack Mountain”, located in Albemarle County, has architectural significance because of its Jeffersonian styling. The Moore land adjoined a tract known as “Evergreen”, owned by Fleming and others and situated near the Rivanna Reservoir.
Fleming, a black real estate broker and developer, sought approval in the fall of 1974, first from the Planning Commission and then from the Board of Supervisors of Albemarle County, to have “Evergreen” rezoned from Agriculture to Residential Planned Unit Development. Upon rezoning, Fleming proposed to construct a planned unit development of high-density residential units for a predominantly black, lower-middle-income group of occupants.
The Planning Commission and Board of Supervisors held several meetings to consider Fleming’s application and Moore spoke briefly during two of the meetings in opposition to the proposed development. Moore’s position was that the project, if constructed, would create a pollution hazard to the Rivanna Reservoir, which supplies water to the City of Charlottesville, and that it would also detract from the value of his own property. Moore never gave interviews to the press concerning the planned development and never spoke about in public except at the two meetings. During the course of public debate over the proposed development, county planning officials advanced the idea that if Fleming’s application for rezoning were to be approved, a tree buffer should be required along the boundary line between the “Evergreen” and “Shack Mountain” properties. Moore felt that the buffer would be a good idea since it would screen his property from the “Evergreen” development. Fleming’s plan was reviewed by the appropriate county agencies, the public was afforded an opportunity to comment on it, and his application for rezoning was subsequently denied by the Board of Supervisors in December, 1975.
In January, 1976, Fleming published in two newspapers a paid advertisement captioned “RACISM” in which Moore was identified by name.
http://www.opengovva.org/foi-opinions/fleming-v-moore
1984 article from “The Afro American” where Supreme Court upheld verdict in Moore’s favor.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2211&dat=19841110&id=zCImAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Xf4FAAAAIBAJ&pg=2975,1794509
And from “The Cavalier” 1986. Some of Fleming supporters are named.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1807&dat=19861016&id=AT8gAAAAIBAJ&sjid=8WkEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4402,2635953
@ATG. After an indictment, there is a very short leash on
the time frame to commence trial.
In JLM’s case, his PD already agreed to wave speedy trial for 2 weeks while they met with the client, etc. He was unrepresented at his preliminary hearing so he did not enter a plea nor could it be set for trial.
Out of the gate Camblos was motioning for a mental evaluation. Does not take much to see his strategy will be diminished capacity or a mental defense. As I am sure most people know, and will likely take offense to- his prior bad acts DO NOT come in. That is unless the defense opens that door viewing it has a strategy proposition for them. One has to be able to form mens rea to be guilty of a crime- the formula of how we get to “ability to convert our criminal thoughts to criminal acts or actus reus” requires the capacity to do so or we start to chisel away at the level of culpability.
Can you see it now? The low IQ, the evidence of aggressive and neuro trauma playing football just like those just settled in the NFL, the evidence of his home life churned out this brood.
B
On the matter of Carr-Matthew Clan Praying for the Victim’s families, as per Camblos comment.
Notice that the People Magazine article wrote it this way—”…Carr Matthew family “Praying” for the victim’s families.”
IMO Camblos and families are on very thin ice inserting this position statement into the grief of Hannah’s family at the moment. As if they are entitled to insert themselves, which, no matter how they may feel, they are simply not entitled to this platform. They can and did try to take it, but they are simply not entitled. Others may find it supportive, or helpful. Personally I find it vomit worthy, unacceptable, and so out of line.
It is time to tally up the value of the system gimmees, handouts, and willful blindness to JLM’s antics, and in the case of the free passes for bad behavior, keep in mind that assault and road rage sending someone to the hospital would have put any normal person in prison for several years at least. Not being given a UVA job with salary and bennies, as well as trusted position no less. Mr. Worrell the ACA in question has some serious explaining to do, as I see this.
Charlottesville Athelete of the year designation could have been handed out to any of multiple promising candidates, no doubt of better academic ilk than JLM.. That by itself would have been a ticket to other sports and business opportunities for a lifetime of set ups in this locale.
Then we have the two free rides on tuition and fees. Wonder how much that would have been worth if this individual had used, not abused the opportunities.
Then we have the system protector role, evidently taken on by the ACA Worrell. That particular get out of jail free card is priceless when considering that anyone else would have faced years if not a lifetime of setbacks and prison time for that incident of rage.
And on and on……..
All of these gimmees and takings adds up to a total which is of exponentially grand value, compared to any sum which would have been realized from a low rent housing project in 1975, with over a hundred beneficiaries, and no doubt split with a developer who had his own agenda moneywise which would have pitted him against the family for his own take of the proceeds. All of these facts has been lost.
It seems clear that far from taken advantage of, JLM was doing his own advantage taking, and plenty of it. And still feeling ” he had been dun wrong.”
The fair question is to ask where this “him dun wrong” attitude was coming from in this family of the faithful. We still don’t know that fact.
Rose
I understand your position regarding the clock starting at indictment and that is why I suggested that some time be gained by having Fairfax precede the two cases in Albemarle County. They have a live witness that must be returned to the USA along with whatever evidence they have in their file to get them to trial within a prescribed time. In the time Fairfax is working on their trial, Albemarle could be busy with finding additional facts and perhaps connecting JM to other crimes against people.
I think it would be simple to prove that JM has enough capacity to understand right from wrong. His diminished capacity possibilities are there, but he has a work record and other behavior records that should prevent the court from allowing the capacity issue to come in.
I am more than a little tired of counsel and the courts leaning on capacity of the individual to reduce the charges for a crime. If they could formulate the ideas and carry them out, then they should stand as any other citizen before the court.
JM is a stalker who constantly looked for opportunities to take advantage of someone who was impaired from drugs or alcohol or was just in a situation where he could gain control of them.
“Retarded” in Virginia means a low IQ, plus adaptive functioning deficits that onset before age 18. ”
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2009/02/12/696901/-Don-t-Let-Virginia-Use-a-Catch-22-to-Execute-Edward-Bell
idk if adaptive functioning is the second prong of a VA test as
this author claims, but if so prosecution can show:
HS diploma, 2+ years college, independent living, holding down jobs
ATG
Thank you for your words of wisdom as always
. Yes Evanston is where she is, living In a house with 8 other girls on her sports team. They even had a break in at 4 am once. It’s very scary and according to my sister and some in laws who own a very nice property in town, the area is going downhill with a huge spike in crime. The good news is, I gave my sister a copy of the gift of fear two summers ago and she then shared it with several of her teammates. I hope they read it.
Prayers again to the graham and Harrington families. I believe that through their mission to help save the next girl, they have already saved many girls.
I have three children under the age of three, two boys and my oldest is my only girl. I think you and blink should start a blog on effective parenting skills because I have learned a lot from comments you both have made in this case and numerous others that I hope I can teach and instill in my children
Indahlia, before everyone jumps with two feet, I’d like to say I agree with you–in a sense. I understand your concern that there may be one or more accomplices, although I don’t agree with you.
Photogenic, popular, independent, confident, fair-skinned, blonde and, this is the key right here: incapacitated and vulnerable. That is the lure for the victims Morgan and Hannah.
The predator’s lack of self-worth, no longer the popular one or athletically fit, a failure at reaching the “stars” which were projected (or prescribed) as his birthright fuel the rage of the narcissist.
From the DSM IV, a person with a personality disorder has
“An enduring pattern of inner experience and behavior that deviates markedly from the expectation of the individual’s culture, is pervasive and inflexible, has an onset in adolescence or early adulthood, is stable over time, and leads to distress or impairment.”
As for my layperson’s label of Narcissist, I believe there is something of that found in JLM, but the condition takes a turn from NPD to pathological narcissism which includes no reluctance for physical contact and violence to achieve his goals/urges. Exploitation of the vulnerable can be a hallmark of this pathological narcissism disorder. He wants to tear down that mirror of who he is not.
While reviewing photos of Alexis Murphy, I began to realize that the urge to destroy the self-confident, yet vulnerable woman may have something to do with infant or childhood disconnect.
I know there are healthcare professionals and therapists here and am wondering if any of this seems to fit, or if I’m far off on this internal scenario of a predator such as JLM who might have thought:
“They are left alone, they are allowed to be in dangerous territory; the ‘parents and society’ must be taught a lesson: this will serve them right.”?
The reason I am asking for some response here is because I heard of a shoplifting case where the perp said that since there was no one around in the store to give service to the customer, it would serve them right if people stole from the store. ??? Where does this thinking come from ?
Thanks, All.
Thank you for the compliment Sunshine.
The area around Northwestern University contains large older houses that are often rented by groups of students. The entire strip from the end of Lakeshore Drive North to Lake Forrest is declining. I have several friends that live in the communities along the North Shore.
I was sorry to learn of the break-in. I don’t know how it was accomplished, but it is often by way of jamming a door. This can be prevented with some modern add on locks and jamb reinforcement. Your sister and her housemates should contact the landlord or property management people and ask for some assistance in securing the doors and windows.
The use of a double lock deadbolt with a 1″ throw installed by someone who knows how to do it is probably the simplest and least expensive solution. Jamb reinforcement with steel is the most secure, but it requires a good carpenter to make it look nice.
You have three little bio “snowflakes” that are close together in age. Teach them to love and respect themselves and one another. Keep their curiosity about things and learning engaged as long as you can.
Knowledge is power to achieve a good life.
Question for Blink or any other who knows—
By short circuiting the JLM felony charge and conviction for the hospital bill damages—and cell phone??—of Attorney Wilkes, did ACA Claude Worrell also in this process short circuit the dna of Mathew being entered into the system? I presume this was a violent felony of grand larceny and wonder if allowing this to play out would not only have removed this individual from the streets but entered his dna in the system in June 2009—-??
Resulting in the solving of the 2005 crime and leading to JLM being sent up on those FF rape charges immediately with a system dna match? It did seem that JLM instantly realized that he had made a big mistake since he quickly turned tail and drove the atty to the hospital. So it is interesting to consider if his fear from this arrest was the dna match?
We did all wonder how this individual’s dna was not in the system. Now we know. Accommodations.
Susan
Although the symbol for justice is a balance scale, our judicial system is far from perfect. The courts and legal support system are populated with people who have “feelings”. They don’t treat everyone the same.
We know what happened in JM’s case with the road rage. The ACA decided to give JM a break on the road rage assault and not press charges at the proper level.
I can remember being in a court room in the State of Louisiana where the town drunk was before the judge for another drunken adventure. The judge gave him a stern lecture about his alcohol problem and then said “I would put you in jail again if I thought you were drunk in my court”. The man was wobbling as he stood there. I though this is a total farce.
If the Va criminal statues require taking a persons DNA for an assault, then JM would have his taken. The next problem is would it be entered into the state and federal database? Some states are way behind in entering such data.
The ACA probably knew the Mathew family and their propensity for getting in trouble. He probably did not know of the reason that JM was expelled from the two schools. In a “feel sorry for JM moment”, he decided to not press the charge of road rage assault. This left the secret stalker free to continue his evil deeds. The more a criminal gets away with, the bolder they become.
Susan- in answer to your question imo -yes. It may have been unwittingly, but the end result was/is the same.
Susan, Actually, the DNA of Jesse Leroy Matthew Junior was in the system TWICE, once for the Harrington murder and once for the Fairfax rape/attempted murder.
They just didn’t know his name. I’m wondering WHY on earth it didn’t ring any bells and show kinship with the Nathan Antonio Washington DNA.
It is my fond hope that JLM’s DNA is connected with other unsolved cases and that will bring resolution and closure for other families.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/10/23/fbi-testing-alexis-murphy-car-for-jesse-matthew-dna/
georgiafl says:
October 23, 2014 at 11:37 am
The information about JM being related to NA Washington came from a long-time neighbor who lives near and knows the family.
I’ve worked at trying to document the family history… but, as you know, working out AA genealogy is not easy and sometimes impossible unless you know the family and have ‘inside information’.
There are informal kinships and parental relationships where the baby mama and daddy never lived together (and any support came from her mama and Uncle Sam) and formalized legal ones.
Research here: http://www.brownvafamilyreunion2013.com/brown–family–list.php
(9 – A6) Nathan Antonio Washington is the son of Sylvia Washington (no father listed)
(3 – A6) Rosetta Washington married Hunter Carr
There are Carrs and Washingtons among JM’s facebook friends. A Washington owns or rents a property from or near his mother.
JM’s grandmother Christiana Carr, wife of Louie Earnley Carr is listed as a Hicks in the Hugh Carr family history.
Grandfather Louie Earnley Carr – http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=118050521
Hugh Carr’s only son died young and I have found no record of children. So, Jesse is likely to be related to Hugh through a brother or cousin of Hugh Carr.
Hugh Carr family cemetery – http://www2.vcdh.virginia.edu/cem/db/cemetery/map/CRR/
Hugh Car genealogy – http://ivycreekfoundation.org/history/familyhistory/carr_genealogy.html
is it confirmed that jlm is related to Washington? cuz imo that’s important.ariel castro’s daughter insisted they don’t have monster blood. is there monster blood? is it genetic ,does it skip generations ,is it a descernable brain malfunction. or is it bred at home in families?learned or involuntary. nephilim, Neanderthal?,can help save the next girl, crowdsource funding to process all backlogged rape kits in va.?
Blink,
Re: drug topic on this thread Nov 4. Was the “M” drug in which you were thinking about Midozolam, generic for Versed? I had emergency surgery 2 weeks ago and was very nervous. They offered this med to me to calm me. I found out upon waking up after surgery and remembering nothing that it is an amensic benzo. Evidently I provided quite the entertainment to the medical staff.
Typically I’m just reader…just thought I’d help if I could. Blessings to all of you trying to help these families.
Thank you for weighing in Wakk- I am not sure, but that is certainly good information.
B
@FL Grandmother—
At the point in time when JLM’s road rage assault was excused and minimized by official action of the CA’s office in Charlottesville, JLM’s dna was only in the system –that we now know of—in the 2005 rape and attempted capital murder case–without his name attached. Without his identity being attached this did not take him off the streets. Presumably if that 2009 road rage and assault had played out this would have led to an id and the dna also being placed in the system and leading back to connection with the 2005 case.
This was prior to Morgan’s case. Presumably then that would have not occurred. Nor Hannah’s case.
It is vitally important for the system, as I see this, to go back to that June 2009 point with the CA’s office and find out who pulled what strings in this case. Also now people treated more harshly by this system without cause—and I know there are some—will have a basis of comparison to enforce fairness in their cases.
I just wish we had all of this info while that ABC misconduct in the Daly case was playing out. Things need to be handled better. We need to know what went on in June 2009 in the CA’s office in that matter. Good government and accountability to the citizenry demands a full investigation. We also deserve to have the facts and background as to how the taxi concessions were not questioned in Morgan’s case.
@susan
Excellent post!