Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview
New York, NY- For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case. Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman did not speak to any reporters or answer any of their questions regarding Kyron Hormans disappearance. Until Now.
Horman courtesy of People
Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions, and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include wwww.blinkoncrime.com.
In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning, Horman maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.
“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”
“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”
Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.
“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent. I want her to tell me where Kyron is. If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”- Desiree Young
“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date. To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page
Christina Stoy, www.blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney, Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.
Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview. Um, What?
Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.
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Rose says:
January 24, 2016 at 4:17 pm
Well I have a few questions I’d like to pass on to
our Yoda, but I figure she is the professional.
Fire away- I am intending to present a section of BOC contributor questions.
B
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It’s hard for me to think of an appropriate question for Terri. I’m sure she has lots of guesses, as do we, but if it’s not something factual that she could know, would it even be useful in this context? And I have to ask myself why I want to know this.
I think I would ask if she has specific experience with children with Asperger’s and, if so, whether she, although not qualified to diagnose and not wanting to talk about things that are private, had made any personal observations that might have suggested to her that he needed an evaluation for that or a similar condition. If yes, who did she tell?
I ask myself why? Because it might tell me something about how he would react to strangers or requests from strangers, whether he might really have been a “wanderer” who disappeared to the restroom from time to time or wandered outside, and whether he was appropriately monitored in the school setting. I believe there are behaviors of kids with Asperger’s that catch the attention of others in subtle ways, particularly others who may be looking for a victim. I know my daughter and I were sometimes shocked and worried at the degree of friendliness and at the information my grandson would just blurt out to strangers sometimes in places you’d never expect it, and how hard it was to turn that off.
I don’t need specifics. Just trying to understand more about who might have targeted him. Perhaps it was a stranger who wandered in only on that day, but maybe it was a longer term stalking or relationship of some kind.
I’d also like to tell her that I (and I think “we”) would like to share our respect and concern for her parents, and prayers for the future of her children.
Malty says:
January 24, 2016 at 7:37 pm
@Malty – I guess we can assume there is something about steroids that can make a man feel he is “less weak” – I hesitate to say “strong”, but we sure as heck can say nothing chemical turns you into a good father. If this woman is posting as you said, I hate to think what she actually must be saying. Kaine is responsible for having her there, so anything SHE says should also be his responsibility.
I see so much anger and acting out in K’s future – I’d like to say I don’t, but as a school counselor for so many years, I can’t. I pray she stays safe and gets help, but I’m not sure it will ever come from a school. My own children went to a middle school counselor one time with a problem and she called their dad (a teacher) who went to the school and yelled at her not to talk to them again – and she wouldn’t. He frightened her, and the children. I knew her, and him, so I understood. Tried to find them other resources. I can see KH doing the same thing (IMO).
^^^^^^
B
Malty says: …Face it he needed to take His son to the SF And protect him to from the unknown man or the school staff.
And raise his kids himself. Like a real man would and do.
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Right? Desiree blames herself for not being there with Kyron for the science fair. Terri blames herself for not putting on make up before actually taking Kyron to the science fair. But Kaine? I don’t recall him ever taking any responsibility for anything, ever.
Okay, I was tantalized by posts here to visit Kristin’s FB page.
Seems a bit shallow, needy, and sanctimonious. (judgy, I know – I own it)
Kiara has a lot going on around her that has nothing to do with her. I hope she is a priority somewhere in there.
My heart breaks for this girl.
B
I know I’m offering up a lot of FB comments lately, but Kyron’s story is all over FB.
This latest quote is saying to me that there are an awful lot of people following Kyron’s case who think that women should not have strong sex drives. That is what all the faux-outrage about the email names is about. That’s right, folks, a hot female libido spells child killer!
I feel for the individual who wrote the comment below, and I wonder if I should send him/her a box of Kleenex and a portable Coleman shower set to “cold.” Yeah, I just said that.
“The Kyron Horman Case: Turning of The Tide.
Yesterday at 5:21pm ·
E-mails Terri Moulton Ecker Horman has used. No one has made Terri look like promiscuous woman who has a hard time saying no to sex. It’s just who she is and always has been. IMO. The deniers know it’s true. They throw out all these red herrings when they can not explain facts.”
Now we’re making progress with these people. The author of this icky comment has followers who agree with such statements. “A hard time saying no to sex?”
Seriously? I don’t trust people who REFUSE sex, lol.
Nelmel went there, y’all.
I don’t think TH would say she is Miss Lilly White incarnate. I might even say I think she would cop to some of the sexting BS but would probably say if ever released, the texts between her and RSE would show she rejected his direct advances. I think she would admit she kept his existence from Kaine. She gave LE RSE business card and cell #. What idiot does that ( I think we all agree she is no idiot)after being told she failed a poly and in her mind at least, is well aware LE is focused on her as a possible suspect, but very much a liar. Here you go boys- please add this to the pile of nails for my coffin !!!!
B
I think for Desiree it is “worlds collide” in her head. She even said her head hurt in one of the interviews.
Agreed.
B
Does k now know her mother is not dead and with whom and how did that conversation go down.
KM chiding the other women for their public comments (and not putting Kyron first, btw) while calling one a monster is about as hypocritical as it gets.
Ikr.
I don’t believe TH is in a legal position to discuss much of the status of the reunification process outside of its existence (public record).
I can safely say Mickelson as a PARTICIPANT of that reunification process is going to sorely regret that public commentary. Look for the ole (sorry my FB was hacked, lol) The argument isn’t whether or not Kiara can see such posts- the argument is it is clear and convincing evidence of Mickelson’s disposition toward Terri Horman by someone in constant contact with her daughter in a caregiving position, apparently.
B
OMG. Fraud. Thief. Sexting.
https://www.facebook.com/180780400322/videos/10156473491155323/
T. Ruth says:
January 24, 2016 at 5:45 pm
https://www.facebook.com/180780400322/videos/10156473491155323/
Have you guys seen this?
From the video, how can TH be involved in everything the first few weeks, and also not cooperate – per DY.
I really got super upset with Kristin the nanny LOL and I still am But looking back I think she has always been as she showed herself in her posts Very self centered. Possessive of Kaine Not putting the children first it
Hurts to think how Kiara is being treated and I have no doubt behind closed doors there story to tell
That little girl needs her bio Mom in her life
Of course I always thought it was just a matter of time before Kaine traded her in on a sexy 20 something anyway
Kaine is getting older Needs a ego boost.
I think if Blink asks about if there was anyone who was to friendly to Kyron At School Bowling The gym
Any place
Then finds out if Terri’s folks have been able to see Kiara at all Or call her
I don’t are about old illegal Rudy or none of that stuff I hope he made it to prison or Over the border For what ever
He could have taken Kyron Except he didn’t fit the profile And he was trying to not be sent back so he was not looking for big trouble
.i really don’t want to ask much just let Blink do what she thinks best
Rose says:
January 24, 2016 at 8:03 pm
Terri needs to see Stanchyk or her peer now with that post.
1. mother was called monster by functional stepmother.
2. caregivers’ daughters’ tweets of 2 years–may someone preserve them.
3. Regular loud Sexual intercourse was troubling to Dau 1&2 such that Dau 1 never wanted to visit again.
Her Dau 2&3 have severe congenital life threatening diseases difficult to manage.
Dau 3 is getting a 55 lb puppy and will be alone with same til 6 pm M-F. apparently against doctor’s advice per Kristen’s fundraising site.
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It makes me wonder what kinds of things KM’s 2 daughters say around Kiara and to Kiara about her mother and her relationship to her mom since it sounds like they are the actual daily caregivers.
Kiara needs someone who can discuss her mother with her in a kind way that is not damaging to her mental health. I Don’t believe that KM and or her daughters are capable of this. If KM and her daughters are calling Kiara’s bio mom a monster and working to make sure Kiara hates or fears her bio mom thats a real problem .
Doesn’t Kaine care anything about his remaining child or does he actually unconsciously resent Kiara because she is the child of (Terri whom he hates) still present when Kyron is gone. He just seems to leave her in bad situations both at school and at home.
Maybe he ignores her because Kiara looks like her mom and will continue to look more and more like Terri (a person Kaine blames for his sons disappearance) as she matures. Everytime he looks at Kiara he is going to be reminded of Terri. Not a healthy situation for a little girl to grow up in.
Three FB posts from Keisten over time callng Kiara’s mother a monster and a bitch?
Well, that is in line with everything we know about Kristen.
She had to move around a lot, was disrespected by her tatted often foulmoutged daughters,
had no work skills or real job, moved across states to boff kaine. shoukd anyone expect more?
I wish Terri had a fine family attorney who’d be all over this like
white on rice and haul this chstodial living setting, 55 lb dog and working nanny
and all, into Court, and get shelby’s dr subpienaed on she can’t be left alone but
apparently was and is thing, and
Kristen’s response to the Dr. .
Kaine needs supervision on his chikd care plan. Family attorney needs to
ask Court to order DHS to do a home study on the Oregon home, including interview of
Dau 2 who resided there fulltime until recently about her illness and her childcare, and to order
DHS to obtain a home study from the State of CA on Terri. The advantage if Stanchyk us she
kniws Rackner/Engel inside out and professionally divirced them.
I can’t see any way they could not react in the middle of a reunification process.
B
Little doggy Harper looks real fun to have around Dogs are such a Blessing to me They are always there for me
Loving Xxx for Harper in this weather
Thank you she is pure joy with fur for us. You are so right- our fur-family members are indeed a blessing!
B
@Rose you say the maltesepuppy is a pest He makes. One yappy post then I sign him out
No one over there interests me to talk to One post now and then is enough Sign out
Kiara has reading skills now, eh?
Does Kaine not think she’ll read Kristen’s page and ber opinion
about her mother? James reads? Foster parents aren’t allowed
to do this. They would loose their license. It is not possible
to reunite a child with a parent with such substitute caregiver attitudes.
A real judge would tell Kaine it’s her or custody, can’t have both.
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–Blink’s interview is a problematic tightrope, glad I’m not in her shoes.
One negative word about Desiree’s parenting or history, and she not
only falls to Desiree’s level and tit for tat, but a suit from Desiree is
likely. Kaine is entirely off limits. No reciprocation with the likes of Kristen
except thru her attorney. She can go into her experiences rearing Kyron,
his strengths and challenges, the Q mbs asked, the reason for his Dr apptment, all her interactions over time
in and with the school with personnel as well as June 3 and 4, her specific LE reports about “a family member”
involved with drug dealors, lightly on James’ adjustment issues necessitating a move and their resolution,
what she did with LE to work out her timeline.
I think Blink will think of angles and focus that surprise us.
And she is smart enough not to put Terri in legal or custody jeopardy.
I would like to know why she signed such a detrimental Stip rather than litigating and who recommended Bunch.
It is important to elucidate everything mcso did and didn’t do.
Ditto for Frink.
I am very hopeful TH full interview will be made available (Ardillas). I think she goes into a great deal of information and if many believe, as I do, although I have no first hand knowledge of, that she is initiating litigation in areas of discussion that raises the integrity of her statements, imo. This woman is not dumb enough to say something relevant, purposefully that she could be impeached on.
On the other hand, I guess it could be argued in the public sphere that TH is willing to say things because she knows LE is never going to refute her publicly. I doubt most- if not all of those folks have ever seen the inside of a Federal courtroom. Horse of a different Garage.
B
@mbs. Kristin’s Dau 2 tweeted awhile ago kiara is a jeckyll/hyde.
What do they expect having completely disrupted her mother – daughter
attachment at 18 months! Kid was at risk for a mood disorder and
substance abuse already. In my opinion you are right, and Kristin’s
eldest 2 tweeted they were essentially parental children who reared themselves
in an unstable peripatetic environment. I agree father will control the ability of
school staff to support her. I viewed the way Kristin installed herself and her
daughter at Skyline as part of that control of kiara.
@Rose
That O seems like a ongoing argument between the same old people I can go there every two months and never miss anything LOL make one post and leave
@MBS I am always very concerned over what happened to Kyron
But that little Kiara just plain worries me I wish she could have a good happy life but I am afraid for her…..
Sheriff Wolfe in Harney Cty is a known subscriber to the Constitutional Sheriff movement.
So apparently is Sheriff Palmer.
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/post_2.html#incart_big-photo
another question: What were you trying to convey to Desiree in those allegedly venting emails about Kyron’s life challenges and circumstances that Desiree was not picking up?
What were you trying to accomplish?
(I don’t want any of my questions asked the way I write them or think.
Your speaking of questions Blink was very masterful to get at the pith & heart of things, & to accomplish a purpose. I can’t come near that or even think that way.)
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update on Cook, pictured in character.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-cook-044a914
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update on Pitkin
I like the mention of civil rights
http://www.oali.org/show_member.php?id=2334
http://www.fulcruminvestigation.com
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update on Briede
http://pamplinmedia.com/wsp/134-news/287618-162735-not-your-average-businessman
2 out of shape bodies
and one that speaks for itsslf
wonder if Salazar, VP & operations mgr, is the one who objected to Terri asking for her daughter?
@TRuth. It doesn’t violate HIPPA for TH to say she made the appointment due to X behavioral features and/or teacher concerns she personally observed or were reported directly to her school staff, not coming thru either bio.
I am confident she repeated to bios what any staff told her
HIPPA involves the content & outcome of a medical appointment, not the reasons for makng it.
Ditto on molestation. Anything she personally observed or was concerned might be happening in the Medford home on visits, in the school, or the Sheltered Nook family system does not involve HiPPA; she is neither a doctor or nurse.
What she must watch out for is a suit from Desiree or Kaine if she was in part motivated to rule out molestation in either home. So all she can say is it was a worry based on Kyron’s behavior and the recent arrest of a family member (public info).
It would be relevant to know who she told a out the apptmt in or out of school, or who in the gum might have heard her tell Porter, and who Kaine & Desiree told, because it is odd indeed both of the latter did not immediately verify the drs’ apptmt.
erose says:
January 24, 2016 at 11:06 pm
OMG. Fraud. Thief. Sexting.
https://www.facebook.com/180780400322/videos/10156473491155323/
T. Ruth says:
January 24, 2016 at 5:45 pm
https://www.facebook.com/180780400322/videos/10156473491155323/
Have you guys seen this?
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That video pretty much says it all and did Desiree no favors. At the 3:44 mark Desiree states she is glad they have been able to keep Kiara away from her (Terri). She includes herself in that action…not really smart on her part. During the pressers in the church she was wondering why God did not strike her (Terri) down. She states that initially she was the only one in the house that thought Terri did it. She knew from the very first phone call.
There is no doubt that little K has heard from school what is currently going on. Someone needs to be sure she is getting outside counsel. Her current female caregiver is apparently not going to do her justice.
Here’s the other thing- isn’t Mickelson some sort of PTA liason at Skyline? You can’t think any parent wants to see someone in contact with their kid/school environment posting such messages about a students mother, a former volunteer who was very involved and present at the school?
I am told by more than one source that TH requested a GAL for Kiara and that the DA (yes, the enforcement structure ends up back there) stated it was “not necessary. To your point we now have a non-party with a public admission to:
163.245¹
Custodial interference in the second degree
(1) A person commits the crime of custodial interference in the second degree if, knowing or having reason to know that the person has no legal right to do so, the person takes, entices or keeps another person from the other persons lawful custodian or in violation of a valid joint custody order with intent to hold the other person permanently or for a protracted period.
(2) Expenses incurred by a lawful custodial parent or a parent enforcing a valid joint custody order in locating and regaining physical custody of the person taken, enticed or kept in violation of this section are economic damages for purposes of restitution under ORS 137.103 (Definitions for ORS 137.101 to 137.109) to 137.109 (Effect of restitution order on other remedies of victim).
Is it just me or does it seem the people who have been screaming to just about anyone who will give them airtime that Terri should talk are now completely miffed that she has? Don’t want to hear them say she should go to LE now one more time. The implied premise in that statement was that she has EVER been asked for an additional interview by LE. She has not. Why the eff isn’t that not soundbiteworthy?
B
Part 1 interview that TRuth posted:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156473491155323&id=180780400322&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fblinkoncrime.com%2F2016%2F01%2F21%2Fkyron-horman-missing-case-terri-horman-breaks-her-silence-in-people-magazine-interview%2Fcomment-page-4%2F&_rdr
(My impression from earlier interview is that young blonde is far from objective & quite the synchophant.)
1:00 D says “my volunteers” woke me.
A reference that the FB stalkers work under her direction and control.
1:38 “She needs money.” “…was paid for the article in People…”
2:30
Desiree says this is eyewitness testimony reported to hed: “She’s been up to her usual things, sexting and … losing her jobs, and things like that that are completely inappropriate”
“She’s committing fraud, trying to steal from people” “She’s burning a lot of bridges out there”
Waitaminute.
Desiree says “She’s (kiara) shown alot of signs of improvement since” (barred from mother). Her opinion on what grounds?
She’s also said she hasn’t spoken to Kaine in years.
Hill Dau2 is a legal adult and can be subpoenaed and deposed (as can Dau 1) about tweets (Kaine behaviors) and kiara is a jeckyll/hyde.
3:45 Interviewer says on Day 1 when the 4 of you looked together DY replies “***Secretly,*** inside I was screaming.
“in a church thinking
***why are you not striking her dead** she’s standing up here lying and pretending to cry.”
“I felt from that very first phone call, she had been lying.”
“She never showed any concern for Kyron.”
5:36 DDY makes Terri’s civil case against mcso/da. Vehemently says no one in the house thot Terri did it, she was not a focus, until after the MFH came out.
Yup. and then some. I believe she was still speaking with Kaine re Kitty at that point so I suspect that is her reference point. I did notice she never mentions DDS.
B
Mickelson was formerly on Skyline’s pta Exec as Volunteer Coordinator tho some months she failed to attend the monthly mtg and had someone else read her report. This year there is no online sign of her involvement.
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How can a DA–not a party to civil divorce & with no standing–voice an opinion to the Judge much less preclude a GAL appointment by the Judge? We knew Kantor lacked experience & knowledge of divorce Court, but this is worthy of a judicial complaint by a parent. In addition to a GAL the home stidies shoukd have been done by DHS, which does them in interstate custody evaluations regularly if ordered by the Judge.
I can’t believe DHS was not involved, period. Missing child alleged crime victim- it is mandatory. Only one way that does not happen.
Easy- when the Judge is in constant contact with Mr. non party and none of it is on the record. That said- I did point out those obvious comments of his that could only come with “knowledge”. An example would be when he stated he did not know what the minor witnesses told the gj.
How did Rosenthal know DDS testified before the GJ?
B
I suspect a frequent caregiver while Kaine and Kristin went out, or went to bed with loud sounds, was ill Dau2 even when tethered to IVs, and a custody depo would establish that. Terri needs an attorney who relishes litigating the failure to promotly make reunification progress, Kaine’s child supervision plan before kiara ages out (despite the law, supervision as a reen is as important as when a toddler imo), deal wth new mommies public (and private) speech about mother, and frankly if a sexond grader can be interviewed by a Judge wrt molestation, a secondgrader supported by a Court-appointed attorney GAL can be interviewed directly by the Judge about what father and “mother and sisters” have told her about Mother. except it will take an experienced custody judge, not Kantor.
well, there is always walk in motion day.
B
@mbs. Kristin’s Dau 2 tweeted awhile ago kiara is a jeckyll/hyde.
What do they expect having completely disrupted her mother – daughter
attachment at 18 months! Kid was at risk for a mood disorder and
substance abuse already. In my opinion you are right, and Kristin’s
eldest 2 tweeted they were essentially parental children who reared themselves
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I wonder if these two girls(who have serious physical challenges themselves) are allowed to discipline Kiara. I don’t know if there is anything amiss here but child services really needs to look into Kaines life style.
It is clear that just because of the health changes in Kiara’s supposed step sisters that the situation has changed in Kaines household. If these girls are a ill as Kristen claims how patient are they with a 7 year old girls need and demands. Especially the daughter of the (as acting stepmom Kristine points out) “Monster”.
Rose says:
January 25, 2016 at 10:11 am
I wish an interviewer would ask DY where her information is coming from when she says TH is currently committing fraud, sexting and being fired from multiple jobs because of her behavior. Those statements are clearly nothing more then slander and are on par with DY lying to the press. Also People has said that Terri was not paid for her interview and there is no book deal which is another lie DY is keeps on perpetuating.
OMG. Fraud. Thief. Sexting.
https://www.facebook.com/180780400322/videos/10156473491155323/
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/kyron-hormans-mom-to-terri-lets-clear-you/20099859
@Rose, Salazar was apparently a manager and unofficial spokesperson for the gym in 2014. He and Briede both seem out of shape in the pic @ your link. (Funny, there is a Carlos Salazar on Linkedin who works for Intel.)
snip>
Detectives are interviewing Laube’s friends at the Extreme Edge Gym in Beaverton, where she spent five days a week training for fitness competitions. A friend and manager there said detectives were out there twice Thursday.
“A lot of things go through your head … how is something like that even possible–to happen to someone as nice as her, a mother,” Laube’s friend, Carlos Salazar, told KATU.
http://katu.com/news/local/police-believe-woman-killed-at-cedar-mill-apartments-was-targeted
Here is an out there thought…Kaine’s early statement that it could take 5 years to have answers or words to that effect. Maybe for some legal reasons (your area Blink
) he only had about 5 years or so to duck from what we might learn? I am not being mean I hope.
I don’t have any reason to draw any inference (legally) in particular, over Kaine’s commentary on that 5 year issue, although in general he has the most difficulty answering a question with accountability and conviction of anyone in a similar circumstance I have ever seen.
B
someone is still feeding questions on WS way beyond Stacey and Desiree’s writing
or thinking style (25-30) for someone who’s said they’ll be doing an interview.
Why doesn’t Yandell just post here? He’s into online stuff; just come out and join those of us
really investigating.
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About Turning Tide. One privy to inside investigation details AND LE speaking style (2 sibs in LE) would
be Kristin. Did that FB site begin about when she hooked up?
@Ode says:
January 25, 2016 at 10:06 am
IKR? DY: “I’m glad WE’VE been able to keep Kiara away from her”.
(snippets)
“It wasn’t until after the Murder for Hire Plot, that we really started focusing on her.” (snip) “Actually, that first night when I interviewed with the FBI, I told them ‘I really don’t think she could hurt Kyron.’ ‘I really don’t.’ ‘I don’t want to believe that.’”
“You know, I would have agreed that she had taken care of him prior to June 4, 2010….but when that day happened, SHE took that away. She doesn’t have the right to call him her son. Ummm, she betrayed his trust and his love, and not just Kyron’s. Kyron’s brother Quinn also is suffering through this, and she doesn’t realize that she has had that huge impact. And it’s not a good one. Um, you don’t get to call yourself a mom, you do stuff like this.”
Reporter, will there ever be a time when you will welcome Terri back into the investigation process?
“Absolutely, I want to sit down with her. If she doesn’t want to sit down with LE, I welcome her to call me up. I have been asking her to sit down and talk to me since day one. Of anybody who could ever understand being in an uncomfortable situation, it would be me. I just want to talk about what she did. I want answers. I want to bring Kyron home. And I’m ready for this to be done. If she wants to help, she wants to fix it, great. Let’s have a sit down, let’s talk about it. I am more than willing to do that. ”
Desiree continues on about the Terri’s reaction at home to her alleged failed poly’s. Says she never mentioned to any of them that she couldn’t hear clearly, or about being deaf in one ear.
“She shared a whole lot with us and never mentioned that. Didn’t mention it right after the polygraph, she talked about everything else. Um, the questions they asked her; she was very clear at that moment what they had asked her, um, what she failed on, and she was clearly upset and agitated about it. Um, she also mentioned that her timeline wasn’t matching up with the video surveillance and that was only one or two versions of the timeline that we know of. You know as the polygraphs went on there were different live versions.
Reporter asks what was going through your mind as you were listening to Terri get upset, etc:
“Yes, I was starting to get really upset, sitting there listening to all of it. Then as she started to talk about physical, Kyron’s physical DNA in the bed of the truck and that she’s trying to justify that to LE, and that she didn’t have a good enough answer for them. As she rounded the living room, she came right over to me and leaned over the chair and said to me ‘I loved your son. I want you to know I loved your son.’ I had to stand up and leave the house because I said to her, ‘How could you say that in the past tense? Loved? I love my son. I will love him in 90 years or 100 years, I will always love my him.’ And I said ‘I can’t believe you would say that.’ And I walked out of the house, and I just couldn’t be there at that moment.
It was beyond my strength.”
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Do stuff like this? What is she talking about, stuff like what?
Good grief, this woman is a mess. Saying in one breath how Terri took good care of Kyron until “that day”, when she betrayed his trust? What does that mean? How did TMH betray Kyron’s trust?
How can DY possibly think that TMH would be willing to sit down and talk with her, when in the same breaths she exclaims her happiness that TMH no longer has access to her own daughter. Are you kidding me?
I don’t know what to think anymore. There is still just something so off with all these people.
FWIW, I do not believe in the first few days of the investigation Kaine’s truck was processed for DNA in the truck bed, nor was a DNA profile tested in a matter of days in a case where there was no presumptive red/brown stains or evidence of any crime and I am sick of the recurring lies- or in this case DY is either lying or being lied to or both.
B
I am told by more than one source that TH requested a GAL for Kiara and that the DA (yes, the enforcement structure ends up back there) stated it was “not necessary. To your point we now have a non-party with a public admission to:
163.245¹
Custodial interference in the second degree
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Wow! Which DA stepped in that pile?
I was/am upset with Kristin the ball is in Kaine’s court will he be a protective father and tell Kristin that his child ‘s mother name is Terri and she can treat the bio mother with respect or pack her kids dog and all her junk and move out. Or didn’t he know a thing as usual Heard nothing saw nothing
Kaine is responsible to protect Kiara Give her the best life he can provide
What is all this Cinderella Behavior In his home
I never seen so much name calling as these people do And it is not necessary
What do I have to do to get this newer thread to come up instead of the old one? Used to just happen automatically, now it’s not. ?
Maybe you clicked on the old one in your browser?
B
Those emails must come with proof Terri wrote them or they are just emails. IMO
@ Rose thanks for the post on Briede life I found it very interesting
Blink will the weather keep tonight’s Night line off again.
Not sure Malty.
B
If DY thinks nobody was focusing on Terri as being the guilty party at first, other than herself, as she states in that piece, then why on earth does she think “that first night” her interview with the FBI included questions about whether or not she (DY) thought TMH could have harmed Kyron?
Someone is not telling the truth. If those types of questions were being hurled out already at this point, then wouldn’t it make sense that someone, somewhere was pointing out TMH to the FBI as a possible suspect?
Ode says:
January 25, 2016 at 10:06 am
Blink says –
I am told by more than one source that TH requested a GAL for Kiara and that the DA (yes, the enforcement structure ends up back there) stated it was “not necessary.
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Oregon: Or. Rev. Stat. 107.425(3) (1990): The court may on its own motion or on a motion of the parties appoint counsel for the children. However, if requested to do so by one or more of the children, the court shall appoint counsel for the children.
This makes it appear it’s the judge’s decision except if requested by a child, and I suppose that means the judge can base his decision on whatever he wants, including a DA’s opinion. Although I find it somewhat shocking and bordering on neglect of a child’s interests because of the opinion of a parent making the request, I can’t say either one did anything illegal. I guess “ethical” is in the eyes of the beholder?
I posted this several years ago:
http://www.divorcesource.com/ds/laws/guardian-ad-litem-statutes-in-divorce-and-custody-proceedings-612.shtml
(exerpt)
Guardian Ad Litem Statutes in Divorce and Custody Proceedings:
In contrast to the constitutionally mandated representation of children in abuse and neglect proceedings, the representation of children in divorce-related proceedings is not mandated by any rule of law. Many statutes allowing the appointment of a child’s representative in divorce/custody proceedings are of relatively recent origin. Perhaps because the representation of children in divorce and custody proceedings is of more recent origin, the statutes that sought to define the guardian’s role drew upon the guardian ad litem statutes in abuse and neglect proceedings. Consequently, guardian ad litem statutes in dissolution-of-marriage/custody proceedings are no less chaotic and ill-defined. As a result, all too often the child’s representative becomes little more than an advocate not for the “child’s best interests” as determined by the child’s advocate but, rather, becomes an advocate for either the mother or the father.
Like the guardian ad litem statutes in abuse and neglect proceedings, guardian ad litem statutes in dissolution-of-marriage/custody proceedings suffer from a lack of linguistic commonality. The terms are not defined, and consequently derive whatever meaning the reader wishes to impart to them. Moreover, the circumstances under which a child may have representation are unclear, in that it is often a matter of unbridled judicial discretion whether a child may have an advocate.
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This led me to thinking about an attorney to represent a child. I was involved in one case where a baby had his own court-appointed attorney. She did an excellent job, including her own investigation with home visits and involvement of office staff, clearly separate from the DHS one. I also had a high school student who regularly came to my office to use the phone to contact his personal attorney.
I recently found this (below), but there was no date on it. However, Judge Susan Svetsky is still doing this as described below. (Reminder – she is Houze’s wife.)
http://courts.oregon.gov/Multnomah/docs/FamilyCourt/AppointmentOfAttorneysForChildren.pdf
APPOINTMENT OF ATTORNEYS FOR CHILDREN
For nine years, the Judges of the Multnomah County Family Court have strongly supported a project that arranges for attorneys to represent children in their parents’ domestic relations case, when a Judge determines this step is appropriate. These cases are usually ones involving disputes over custody, parenting time, or other parent-child relationship issues. Sometimes the requests are made by the parents. Sometimes the child makes the request (especially an older child). Sometimes it is the Judge who raises the issue.
When a Judge decides to appoint an attorney for a child, that Judge routes information about the child and the case to Judge Susan Svetkey’s department. Judge Svetkey oversees the program. Her staff notifies the referring Judge of the name of one of approximately 85 local practitioners who is available for the type of case involved and the upcoming hearing dates. The referring Judge then prepares an Order of Appointment and sends the attorney copies of documents from the court file and contact information for the parents and the child. The parents receive a copy of a court order that spells out their duties to cooperate with the child’s attorney regarding reports and access to the child.
Most of the cases involving attorneys for children settle, i.e., more court hearings are not necessary. The job of the child’s attorney is to focus on the child’s best interests or what the child wants, not the parent’s wishes. Often this influence helps resolve disputes, whether the parents have attorneys or are representing themselves.
Attorneys on this panel have volunteered for this work and usually provide their services for free. They often receive training from Child Centered Solutions, an organization that focuses on representing children in family court.
The law that addresses appointments of attorneys for children is set out in part at ORS 107.425(6) and in Supplemental Local Rule 8.085.
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Following is an answer to a teen’s question posted on a forum on Nov 1, 2014, by a local attorney:
Your questions are not stupid at all. The answers are important and complicated. Please bear with me:
As a minor, you cannot yourself take legal action to change a custody or parenting time schedule. One of your parents would have to do that, by filing a motion to modify with the Court. Once that was done, the court would schedule a hearing. You would not normally be allowed to testify at this hearing. Courts do not want parents dragging their children in to testify, forcing them to pick a side in these cases.
However, there is something you can do to make a big difference in the outcome: once a case is open with the Court, you can request that an attorney be appointed to represent you in the case. You can do this by writing a letter to the presiding judge, with your name and the case name and number (your mother should be able to provide you with this), asking for an attorney to represent you under the terms of ORS 107.425(6). Under this law, the court MAY appoint an attorney for the child if a parent requests it, but MUST appoint one if the child requests it. You will not have to pay for this attorney. Your parents might have to pay some, or the attorney might offer to do it for free, if your parents have little money. Each county has a list of attorneys who make themselves available for this. (In Multnomah County, that list is maintained by Judge Susan Svetkey, and she handles assigning these attorneys. Judge Svetkey is an excellent judge and a very nice, approachable person, and you can probably call her office and ask for help if you have questions about this. Contact information for the court and judges is available here: http://courts.oregon.gov/Multnomah/General_Info/Judges/pages/list_of_judges.aspx )
The attorney assigned to you will meet with you and discuss your concerns, and represent your best interests before the court. There’s no specific law on this, but the general rule is that, if a child is over age 14, the attorney will just say exactly what they want; under 14, the attorney will use their own judgment on what’s in the child’s best interests – with input from the child, of course. But if you’re especially mature and articulate – and you certainly seem so, from this post – you may be able to persuade them of what you want. Courts usually grant a lot of weight to the recommendations of children’s attorneys. What they say goes, most of the time. So you can potentially have a lot of influence in this process.
That said, one thing you should be aware of: It is very rare for a court to order that a parent have no contact with their children at all. It sounds like you don’t actually live with your father right now, it’s just a question of whether you have to ‘go to his house’ at all. Even if you live with your mother, your father will likely have the right to /some/ time with you. But an attorney working for you may be able to explain to him that he should change his behavior.
One more thing: the Oregon State Bar operates a program called Problem Solvers. Attorneys in this program offer to take meetings, free of charge, with minors who have legal issues. You can get a free referral by calling 503-684-3763. Be sure you specify you’re a minor looking for a Problem Solver. You can do this if you have more questions.
(posted by) Please read the following notice: Jay Bodzin is licensed to practice law in the State of Oregon and the Federal District of Oregon, and cannot give advice about the laws of other jurisdictions. All comments on this site are intended for informational purposes only, and are not intended to constitute legal advice, create an attorney-client relationship, or solicit business. No posts or comments on this site are in any way confidential. Each case is unique. Information not contained in these posts may create significant exceptions to the advice provided in any response. You are advised to have counsel at all stages of any legal proceeding, and to speak with your own lawyer in private to get advice about your specific situation.
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Finally (from MBS)-
This is very thorough, very long, but easy to read – results from 2014 Oregon Bar task force looking at representation of juveniles which has tended to be interpreted in multiple ways in the past. I think it is worth reading (at least sections) to see if there is any useful information for now or in the future.
Obviously, the custody issue, reunification, etc., is FAR from over.
https://www.osbar.org/_docs/resources/juveniletaskforce/JTFR3.pdf
@Blink. If it’s not a Federal Courtroom in the State of Oregon it’s useless imo.
Actually Blink, small donors to Hill’s dog were various Skyline parents.
fwiw http://profiles.superlawyers.com/oregon/portland/lawyer/jody-l-stahancyk/c5fc9ba4-6cd1-4419-ad61-3460030c8b39.html
It appears that Teri has a strong case for malfeasance of office against the Court and the DA if not an outright crime of collusion.
This could take the case out of the county to a state court if the Oregon statutes will support such action.
Certainly could.
Although my thoughts are her complaint will be filed in Fed court.
B
I didn’t mention anything about the photo of Harper Weston. She is now an adult. Her stance reminded me of the positions taken by the dogs in a dog show.
The dark fur appears much like a tightly woven sweater in the photo.
Lol. She is a Norwich Terrier but she is a definite pointer. Her coloring is referred to as a “black and tan”. She was all black when she was born and for the first several months. In that pic she does not have her coat on because she absolutely loves cold and snow- with her coat on she never gets cold and we freeze to death, LOL!
B
More of a question than a comment. Wonder if Blink has an understanding of the attitudes of other people in LE besides MCSO such as PPD?
I have not had any interface with PPD personally.
B
Maybe you clicked on the old one in your browser?
B
Maybe you’re right. Duh. LOL
Picked up the People mag at the store today. Nothing new in there I see except it does say Kaine got home at 2:30 p.m., which IIRC, is about 20 minutes later than he said.
AND, Ardillas states: “Terri thinks someone from the school took him.”
That’s how the article ended, I wish someone had elaborated. And I’m sure that’s going to piss some people off.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/parents-of-missing-2-year-old-idaho-boy-named-suspects/ar-BBoGuh1?li=BBnb7Kz
I will never look at any of these sorts of LE comments again without thinking of our current case. At least it is reported that this family hired private investigators, guilty or not.
snips:
A missing toddler’s parents have been named suspects in his disappearance after being “less than truthful,” a central Idaho sheriff said Monday.
DeOrr Kunz Jr., 2, vanished July 10 from his family’s campsite close to the Montana border at Timber Creek Campground. The boy’s parents, Jessica Mitchell and DeOrr Kunz Sr., have been “less than truthful” under questioning and polygraph tests, and investigators believe the couple knows where their little boy is and whether he’s alive, said Lemhi County Sheriff Lynn Bowerman.
“They’re not able to tell the same story twice because they’ve told so many stories,” Bowerman told KTVB-TV. “We’re getting changes in the stories all the time.”
The toddler’s family hired Texas-based Klein Investigations and Consulting to probe the case and held a fundraiser earlier this month to help pay the company’s fees, East Idaho News reported.
Investigators believe the child was not abducted, Bowerman said. A representative for Klein Investigations declined to comment on the parents’ suspect status Monday.
A team led by senior investigator Philip Klein has also ruled out a wild animal attack but not a “death – either accidental or with intent,” Klein said earlier this month. The company dismissed rumors of a pending arrest as “at best erroneous” in a statement from Klein posted on its Facebook page Jan. 16.
“We ask the public’s help in stopping this rumor as it is not fair to the family or the community in spreading these false statements,” Klein said. “We pledge to the public that this case is very solvable and to simply calm down right now.”
It is pretty unusual for LE to make such commentary publicly.
B