Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview
New York, NY- For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case. Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman
Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions, and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include wwww.blinkoncrime.com.
In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning, Horman maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.
“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”
“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”
Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.
“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent. I want her to tell me where Kyron is. If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”- Desiree Young
“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date. To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page
Christina Stoy, www.blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney, Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.
Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview. Um, What?
Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.
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JMO, but I’ve always thought there is a better than average chance that the (unidentified) man in the photo was DEA, acting under cover. Question is why….my guess, Kim Holm. SZ was standing in front of her child’s exhibit, so why not? Appears to be talking with someone…Kim? IDK, but IFRC, she said she wasn’t there that morning and yet her name is on the list as beig there.
@TRuth. Iirc her name was on List
because she stopped in at the Office for some
piece of business.
As always Blink I buy your organized offender theory. And “first reaction and response is
**** to disassociate so in his mind he did not commit this act **** so he has nothing to fear.” rings true.
You have also identified an essential element of father’s defense mechanisms wrt the crime’s aftermath
for all other family members in my opinion.
I don’t talk about it much because it is not my area of expertise, but I am very familiar with “disassociative techniques” that are taught to family members in therapy in mp cases as a coping mechanism for basic functionality. Kaine strikes me as a pretty “removed” person to begin with, but that is not the level of disassociation I am referring to. It is probably a less- than effective term on my part. It is more like someone the combination of erasure of memory combined with the sincere inability to perceive they could ever get caught even if they were willing to remember.
B
@ATG. wrt OR public education, I was referring to this and other objective measures ATG. #41 of 50.
http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2015/01/with_low_school_funding_and_st.html
Well known to Oregonians and their chronically underfunding legislators.
Laughably, the Gov’s proposal to fund education in spending the mammoth
business tax focuses on voc ed iirc.
OT (written about 8 pm))
everyone saw this morning’s stories of Carol’s exit stage left? Here’s a followup just out by the diligent Monahan.
http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/07/18/portland-public-schools-lead-investigation-highlights-breakdowns-and-deception/
See Tho(mas a) Beckett’s Comment re PPS attention to concrete safety issues in schools even when a teacher places continuous demands. Beckett’s comment so reminded me of the PPS safety issues at Skyline fostering a successful abduction.
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In an effort to see what was occurring publically in PPS in 2009-10 that might prompt a malefactor to rouse Countywide parent fears, on cursory brief reading yesterday I learned ESOL was the biggie. Despite Carole having had 3 years on the job at the time , it took a scathing, condemnatory, State auditor’s report to get Carol’s attention such that the failed head of PPS ESOL was EVENTUALLY replaced. Very like the lead thing. Except all the ESL kids didn’t have Englishspeaking parents who felt empowered enough to advocate. Apparently not only was esol hell instructionally for student progress, only 39% of students given esl classes actually graduated. Imo Carol should’ve been fired by the BoE on the record (say back in July 2010) for esl instructional failures documented by the State Auditor 3 years after her tenure began and for failure to train & hold accountable the principal and staff at Skyline re safety procedures) ; a firing would permit accrued annual leave but bye bye months of sick leave pay.
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@ MBS. I find it shocking neither “reform” minority BoE change agents, Anthony or Buel, has a seat at the Supt search table:
http://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/315397-194530-struggles-over-management-not-lead-pushed-smith-to-retire-early-from-portland-public-schools
good or bad, voters had spoken.
now that the safety issue of lead is done, R Monahan, WW star reporter, needs to tackle
the safety issues and PPS coverup of a 7 yo abducted from inside Skyline in 2010,
focus being on physical safety policies and practices then and now. Unfortuneably, WW has
barred reporters from Kyron’s case. Could that change now that Meeker is not an active
involved publisher at WW?
My dearest Rose- I think political discussion here is asking to divide folks and I am trying my darndest not to let it
B
When is E Rosenblum’s AG term up?
Her track will be to resign the year before so the Gov can appoint
her successor. She’ll resign because she is put on the
Federal bench or State Supreme Court. That will free up WW
reporters to look into Kyron perhaps.
ot @mbs. You saw this comment in O article?
“greenteacher
2 hours ago
By stepping down immediately, Smith has demonstrated that the most effective form of teaching is role modeling.
There are a number of big shots in the Oregon education business who should follow her lead, including Lindsey Capps, the union lobbyist who now runs Oregon’s public schools, Rob Saxton, the former Oregon schools chief who “retired” to take a part-time job at full time pay, and Jerry Colonna, state school board member who, while padding his PERS account as Beaverton superintendent, spent hundreds of thousands of dollars secretly (see: Hungerford Law, “attorney for many Oregon school districts”) to cover up pervasive administrative malfeasance carrying over from the tenure of his predecessor, Yvonne Katz (who was released from a big job in the Houston area for taking the SAME kickbacks that she took while in Beaverton–this was not covered very extensively by The Oregonian but got a LOT of attention in Houston).
One probably could include on the list the Corbett superintendent, Randy Trani, whose taxpayer-financed lawyer was shielding him from sexual harassment charges while he was forcing special ed kids to take AP classes to gin up Corbett’s inflated standing in the US News and World Report.
The list goes on. Thank you for your leadership in this situation, Ms. Smith. Hopefully several others will follow.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2016/07/carole_smith_stepping_down_imm.html#incart_big-photo
@mbs. Comments in above link also feature a series, a colloquy,
between the reporter, ecotoper, & tow chain in which the O reporter
is inattentive to detail from primary sources, and wrong.
was at Faubion K-8
https://books.google.com/books?id=TZc3cMSB-3wC&pg=PA250&lpg=PA250&dq=organized+sexually+motivated+offender+portland&source=bl&ots=64gYICnbam&sig=al7giGDm0Qgc7JE7BITydPU2jdY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjswvWejP_NAhWJ9x4KHQpUDRw4ChDoAQgaMAA#v=onepage&q=organized%20sexually%20motivated%20offender%20portland&f=false
was probably in K-8 because had previously acted out with high school students.
wrong url above
meant this one http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/304310-182414-coach-whitehurst-no-longer-licensed-to-teach-in-oregon
In a normal LE investigation with a SZ who is organized & offends for sexual gratification,
doesn’t the investigator release a profile as you did to aid the public & generate tips other than redheaded dame sightings? Thinking to recent shootings & to Dodds, I can see socially isolated, likely lives alone. You posited may have dated in the area. So could be divorced or single. If he’s divorcd, I suggest DV incidents. You had computer competence. Your whole profile was good. Why didn’t mcso issue one from the fbi in 2010?
No, typically the profile is not released and to answer your question- the profile leads away from TH for a variety of reasons so MCSO would not likely release anything highlighting their years of erroneous tunnel vision.
B
AnonymousJune 24, 2010 at 10:56 AM
For all of you here that keep seeing a vision of a man that MAY be involved… here is a news release that just came out. They are hopeful someone can identify the man in this video/photo.
http://www.kptv.com/video/24014601/index.html
Thanks!
Reply
DianaJune 24, 2010 at 4:03 PM
Thanks for the link! I wonder why the police are dissing the mayor??
He is not involved and is not privy to the information of the investigation. He is not speaking on behalf of the police department, He is speaking on his own.
http://psychicsunitetofindmissingchildren.blogspot.com/2010/06/kyron-horman-061010.html
***************
This original kptv report is gone. It was obviously based on Sam Adams’ tweet(s), which can still be found here:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/09/09/kyron-horman-missing-case-review-and-birthday-wishes-to-the-frog-prince/
So who was speaking for LE in the kptv story anyone know or remember?
I don’t believe I ever saw the story, but looking back, I find it interesting that Sam Adams, who if I’m not mistaken, would have been the overseer of the Portland Police Bureau at the time, would not be “privy” to the Kyron Horman criminal case investigation. Does anyone know if that would be normal? Is normal that the person who is ultimately in charge of the police department, wouldn’t be briefed on a major criminal case by the Chief of Police?
Just curious.
AnonymousJune 24, 2010 at 10:56 AM
For all of you here that keep seeing a vision of a man that MAY be involved… here is a news release that just came out. They are hopeful someone can identify the man in this video/photo.
http://www.kptv.com/video/24014601/index.html
Thanks!
Reply
DianaJune 24, 2010 at 4:03 PM
Thanks for the link! I wonder why the police are dissing the mayor??
He is not involved and is not privy to the information of the investigation. He is not speaking on behalf of the police department, He is speaking on his own.
http://psychicsunitetofindmissingchildren.blogspot *dot* com/2010/06/kyron-horman-061010.html
***************
This original kptv report is gone. It was obviously based on Sam Adams’ tweet(s), which can still be found here:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/09/09/kyron-horman-missing-case-review-and-birthday-wishes-to-the-frog-prince/
So who was speaking for LE in the kptv story anyone know or remember?
I don’t believe I ever saw the story, but looking back, I find it interesting that Sam Adams, who if I’m not mistaken, would have been the overseer of the Portland Police Bureau at the time, would not be “privy” to the Kyron Horman criminal case investigation. Does anyone know if that would be normal? Is normal that the person who is ultimately in charge of the police department, wouldn’t be briefed on a major criminal case by the Chief of Police?
Just curious.
^^^change the dot to *.*
AnonymousJune 24, 2010 at 10:56 AM
For all of you here that keep seeing a vision of a man that MAY be involved… here is a news release that just came out. They are hopeful someone can identify the man in this video/photo.
http://www.kptv *dot* com/video/24014601/index.html
Thanks!
Reply
DianaJune 24, 2010 at 4:03 PM
Thanks for the link! I wonder why the police are dissing the mayor??
He is not involved and is not privy to the information of the investigation. He is not speaking on behalf of the police department, He is speaking on his own.
http://psychicsunitetofindmissingchildren.blogspot *dot* com/2010/06/kyron-horman-061010.html
***************
This original kptv report is gone. It was obviously based on Sam Adams’ tweet(s), which can still be found here:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/09/09/kyron-horman-missing-case-review-and-birthday-wishes-to-the-frog-prince/
So who was speaking for LE in the kptv story anyone know or remember?
I don’t believe I ever saw the story, but looking back, I find it interesting that Sam Adams, who if I’m not mistaken, would have been the overseer of the Portland Police Bureau at the time, would not be “privy” to the Kyron Horman criminal case investigation. Does anyone know if that would be normal? Is normal that the person who is ultimately in charge of the police department, wouldn’t be briefed on a major criminal case by the Chief of Police?
Just curious.
^^^change the dot to *.*
testing my ability to post
So sorry that post went crazy, it was not showing as submitted on my end, very strange. Sorry, Blink, you can get rid of all but the first one.
@TRuth. Sam, wrt PBB, was the Heavy Hand who’d fired the Chief Sizer 2 weeks before
6:4/10, and installed a Captn from E Precinct (who iirc had once been his aide).
Imo Sam’s attention span was random & egocentric. How he
got to DC in his current job ( & city club before that) is imo all Wyden.
Wierd, WW site with TH’s FB page
http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-1098-kyron-horman-update-facebook-follower-claims-man-in-photo-identified.html
T. Ruth says:
July 19, 2016 at 1:14 pm
That must be TMH & WW’s FB page, but they aren’t very clear about it. It could be representative of TH’s FB page. Also, this is what they have chosen to use im place of the original article where someone claims the man has been ID’d as a parent.
Finally back on today. The Domain Server for my satellite system would not resolve the actual internet numerical address for this site and others. I will play catch-up.
Rose
I don’t mind school funds being expended on vocational education. Good shop skills are useful in obtaining jobs in the construction and service areas of our country.
Not everyone is capable of doing real college level work. Hands on activities of how things work and are built are very helpful to students that decide to pursue the STEM courses at the college level.
In reality, the original concept of public schools was a local project that was to be encouraged by the local and state governments. There was zero provision for state funding of any program, it was all local.
Have thought about posting this for a week or so. Will take plunge, and post it. Leaving it up to Blink, whether she feels it’s appropriate.
I am a “far-left liberal.” I have not blamed conservatives/Republicans when I offer up any of my crazy theories about Kyron’s case. I won’t, either. ‘Cause….well…the Portland region’s political leanings were not responsible for Kyron’s abduction, and, are not going to solve this mystery and find this child. Corruption and ineptitude exist among local and state governments all over the country, and no political side is immune from them. For every Democrat indicted, a Republican waits for his or her own march to the courthouse. For every Democrat who skips a PTA meeting, there is a Republican who missed the school budget vote. Kyron needs our brains, not our blaming.
So….yeah. *sigh*
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/07/as_sheriff_dan_statons_last_da.html#incart_river_mobile_home
pity his tenure turned out this way.
imo when you reach several ranks down for an appointment, there
is a lack of command experience.
monahan again. http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/07/19/five-findings-in-the-lead-investigation-that-forced-the-resignation-of-superintendent-carole-smith/
wish she’d write on the events at Skyline school the morning of June 4, 2010 from the fair to its visitors to
the disappearance.
MBS
I appreciate your “soap box” talk. You showed the things that good teachers always do and that is to try and help those who need it the most.
I have a daughter-in-law who has taught primary grades since graduating college and listened to her talk about spending her money to buy things to help her students be successful. She is now in her early sixties and will soon retire.
In the Portland area the U.S. Census for 2010 indicates that 46 percent of the Oregon total population resides there. A study of those numbers indicate that 38.7 percent of the children in Oregon belong to a minority where one parent or both are minorities. This means that the population of children of minority parents in the area is 17.8 percent from age one through high school.
There are groups in Texas that provide various things for these people. On July 4th, after playing in the community band prior to the Annual Fireworks show, I drove to the local Walmart store to buy some storage baskets to fit into my new bookshelf unit. There I found ahead of me at the check-out a group of young people purchasing school supplies for fifty children. This included backpacks and all the listed supplies that the school district lists each year for each grade. They were providing supplies for fifth grade students.
There are large numbers of minority students in the area. Most are of Hispanic origin. Their parents,fathers in particular, are hard workers and make good wages.
I asked the group how they were going to determine who really needed the supplies. The youths didn’t know and the adult guide was taken aback by that question. They had not thought about it. Doing or attempting to do good works for others in that manner is a set-up for misplaced altruism. A feel good activity.
Every group that ever appeared in this country was at one time a minority. Their task is to learn the language, seek education, become self-sustaining, learn the mores and make themselves recognized as an asset to a community. Can they do that by themselves? Some do such as the Chinese and Japanese. Others need help because the cultural gap is too great to handle by themselves. Some are just lazy and depend on the good will of the people to keep them afloat. Some who have been in the population a long time refuse to take the steps necessary to make themselves a community asset. Spending large amounts of dollars on these people who refuse is an exercise in futility.
MBS
I appreciate your “soap box” talk. You showed the things that good teachers always do and that is to try and help those who need it the most.
I have a daughter-in-law who has taught primary grades since graduating college and listened to her talk about spending her money to buy things to help her students be successful. She is now in her early sixties and will soon retire.
In the Portland area the U.S. Census for 2010 indicates that 46 percent of the Oregon total population resides there. A study of those numbers indicate that 38.7 percent of the children in Oregon belong to a minority where one parent or both are minorities. This means that the population of children of minority parents in the area is 17.8 percent from age one through high school.
There are groups in Texas that provide various things for these people. On July 4th, after playing in the community band prior to the Annual Fireworks show, I drove to the local Walmart store to buy some storage baskets to fit into my new bookshelf unit. There I found ahead of me at the check-out a group of young people purchasing school supplies for fifty children. This included backpacks and all the listed supplies that the school district lists each year for each grade. They were providing supplies for fifth grade students.
There are large numbers of minority students in the area. Most are of Hispanic origin. Their parents,fathers in particular, are hard workers and make good wages.
I asked the group how they were going to determine who really needed the supplies. The youths didn’t know and the adult guide was taken aback by that question. They had not thought about it. Doing or attempting to do good works for others in that manner is a set-up for misplaced altruism. A feel good activity.
Every group that ever appeared in this country was at one time a minority. Their task is to learn the language, seek education, become self-sustaining, learn the mores and make themselves recognized as an asset to a community. Can they do that by themselves? Some do such as the Chinese and Japanese. Others need help because the cultural gap is too great to handle by themselves. Some are just lazy and depend on the good will of the people to keep them afloat. Some who have been in the population a long time refuse to take the steps necessary to make themselves a community asset. Spending large amounts of dollars on these people who refuse is an exercise in futility.
Sorry about the double post B. The couldn’t connect message came up on the first try and after five minutes both posts appeared. Please delete one of them.
@ATG. You are very wise & correct. But Oregon’s challenge now
is actually graduating students and doing so with grade levels reading, writing & math skills.
After one can bake a cake, then one can consider icing. Then even before education,
there is the physical safety of children, whether lead or abduction. The lead assessment by a firm
in the State and Party’s pocket so used for these things was scathing. One wonders why tge
BoE and Carole did not task the same firm to independently review system wide policies and
procedures that culminated in a child’s abduction by a stranger from a classroom? A majority
of the BoE hired that firm because they were ready to see Carole leave but could not admit it
publically.
Is normal that the person who is ultimately in charge of the police department to not be briefed on a major criminal case by the Chief of Police? (In Portland’s case the mayor, some cases city manager.)
“He is not involved and ‘is not privy to the information of the investigation.’ He is not speaking on behalf of the police department, He is speaking on his own.”
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The 3 tweets in a row about MM is very strange and I’m now wondering if the mayor himself wanted to know who that was, and or knew who he was and has some sort of connection to MM.
Rose
Think back to your days as a student in the K-12 system. How many of those schools were fenced? In my case, none were fenced. The locals could use the school grounds for basketball, football, softball or baseball because the area was considered safe. Not so today.
Our K-12 teaching system has thought itself into malfeasance. We no longer teach phonics to students beginning in kindergarten and the first four grades. The teachers do not know the proper way to teach block lettering and cursive is delayed to the 3rd or 4th grades if it is taught at all.
I recently bought a beginning set of “Hooked on Phonics” for my little Gage for his third birthday. When I got home with it and opened the box, the workbook contained a lettering system. It was a disaster.
I had other gifts for him and his new little brother, but I didn’t give him the “Hooked on Phonics” set. I quietly told his mother and father that I did have the set for him, but the lettering scheme was terrible. I told them I would rework it to create the proper letter styles and the pencil strokes to create the letters.
His father is a structural engineer. When I asked if he could teach the correct strokes he replied that he would have to review since all his work is done on CAD (Computer Aided Drafting). Computers are great for a lot of work, but fundamentals are being lost.
My now 26 year old grandchild almost failed 3rd grade math because she did not understand multiplication tables.
Gage’s grandmother was told by her second grade teacher that she could not print up to class standards and came home from school with a note. When I read it, the next thing I did was to sit down with her and discuss the problem. She showed me the two sheet instruction for her lettering work. It was a disaster as well. For a whole week I worked with her every evening and we cleared up the problem. That was over fifty years ago.
Then I went to the school on a parents night to meet her teacher. The teacher wanted to know how the improvements were made so quickly. I had D get out her new lettering sheets that I made for her and we went over them. I wound up teaching a lettering class to four teachers and the school principal.
These are the types of things that are impeding learning for our youth. Most early reading problems are created by the foolish “Look-See” reading programs rather than phonics while block lettering and cursive is taught the wrong way or not at all. Most children’s math problems are caused by not being taught the basic number system concepts and lack of memorization of multiplication tables.
There is an easy fix to this problem. Retrain the teachers in the much superior old systems of reading, writing and math. Use a control group and find out the real differences and improvements in learning.
@ T. Ruth says:
July 20, 2016 at 1:46 pm
You’re right, Mayor Adams had taken over the PPB concommitant with firing Sizer
& appointing Reese. . I’d imagine he was briefed by
new Chief Reese but not given investigatory details.
And the briefings probably stopped with his tweets imo.
TRuth, I always thought that the mayor (who at the time was acting police chief, IIRC) was trying to genuinely help. I think he knew the insider info and made it public, much to the dismay of the LEO’s who wanted that info held from the public. In hindsight, he was a pretty good police chief, all things considered.
T. Ruth says:
July 20, 2016 at 1:46 pm
@ATG. As MBS said, it’s a complex problem in Multnomah.
I doubt though the 39% of the ESL coded who were not graduating in 2010 were all hispanic.
doubtless a goodly number of Asians, E Eurpeons, & Russians.
Skyline was very diverse.
Fyi
http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/07/19/five-findings-in-the-lead-investigation-that-forced-the-resignation-of-superintendent-carole-smith/
“It’s not the crime, it’s the cover-up.
…investigators pinpoint willful ignorance as the bigger problem at PPS.”
“”There has been no ‘top down’ management and no supervision in this area,” the report says. “The district is largely unable to account for its activities and, in some cases, has reported inaccurate information.”
I doubt curriculum, safety, ESL instruction, & the child abduction differ.
ATG, All due respect to good teachers and good schools, unfortunately not all are for many reasons MBS has expressed. We pulled our son out half way thru 2nd grade (as did others) and home schooled until 6th grade when he started a semi-private school, for many of the reasons you cite, as well as security concerns that were not being addressed by the principal or superintendent (nor did they seem to care). Proud to say he’s now on the dean’s list at the UW, home schooled dyslexic that he is. (And the school is not even aware he has a disability.) None of us were professional teachers, but we focused on a good foundation and not only graded papers, but we figured out why the kids were getting the wrong answers and *taught* them. Too often schools have to spend their time on social services and not their primary goal of education. Not blaming republicans or democrats either NelMel, I am a libertarian, but perhaps we should invite God (of all faiths) back to school.
A Texas Grandfather says:
July 20, 2016 at 4:20 pm
Agreed. At the very least, the pledge of allegiance.
If I may- I would like to encourage all that are interested to read (what for me)- was a very important book re institutional learning difficulty (such as dyslexia and others). David and Goliath by Malcolm Gladwell.
As an audible book it is drier than I would like but I understood Gladwell’s need to narrate his own work in this subject matter. In my view- it should be a standard required read for any educator. Neither of my children have had any issues with some of the more classic learning challenges and thankfully they did not inherit my ADD- but if they had and were not getting the educational focus and support they needed I sincerely hope I would have done something similar to your decisions, erose.
David and Goliath addresses some of the more famous dyslexics who have become wildly successful- but it also posits the general question ( with much to chew on) about the success levels of many with varying challenges in youth- is it better to face significant challenges to overcome? I am probably doing a less than artful job positioning the work- but you get the picture. Definitely a must read, imo.
B
Since we deal with the subject of violence here, I think my Facebook post for today is not totally OT, but I will leave it in Blink’s hands. I did not link or quote – you can find plenty of examples on the news. This is beyond politics, IMO.
OK. There’s a place for ideas and solutions on current governmental issues, and there’s room to disagree. There is even room for satire and late night TV jokes. However, I have had it up to here, and then some, with the use and approval of violent language – not just disapproving another person/group’s ideas, but directed toward the human beings themselves! I personally believe in the separation of church and state – I don’t want any government telling me how or whom to worship. BUT – I do not think it oversteps any bounds for any blog, pulpit, soapbox, or any other platform to say that verbal violent remarks are way out of line. They are suggestive, harmful to our children, and confusing on many levels. Anyone who has been a victim of domestic violence knows exactly what I am saying and why. This sort of talk cannot become acceptable. No matter who says it, we need to say, “STOP!” If you have something valuable to say, it will stand on it’s own merit. If you don’t, JBQ – just be quiet!
Sorry, the “it’s” slipped through my proofing – “its own merit” in the last post – I really don’t like to follow ATG’s education posts with errors.
foresighted Henderson
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/07/retired_portland_assistant_pol.html
Police Commissioner Saltzman did a great job imo. His settlement agreement on Chasse got the City off cheap.
He agreed with Chief Sizer the Mayor’s budget was woefully inadequate. He had made many improvements.
But Sam could not tolerate being publically (and rightly) humiliated. Some leaders are like that.
So he had a familiar solutiion: fire the two abruptly and
just do the Commissioner job himself. He had to reach down the ranks a ways to find a yes man.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/05/sam_adams_calls_noon_news_conf.html
Against this political backdrop he set out to tweet about and politicize the abduction.
Btw the very same man was reached out to to become Kafoury’s yes man
on her budget, not an LE institutional reform agent.
the comments on the Henderson article are unbelieveable and reflect citizens’ enormous resentment of public employees’ earned retirements. If there was any job in the City requiring an intimate knowledge of neighborhoods down to street levels’ vying interests, and enforcement, it’s liquor licensing. Portland was way lucky to get a seasoned commander who has both knowledge sets. Retirements she earned are irrelevant.
Agreed.
B
http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/07/20/has-a-grand-jury-ever-indicted-a-portland-police-officer-for-an-on-duty-shooting/
erose
Kudos to you for pulling out your child for home schooling and also for your recognition of the necessity to find out the reason or reasons for a child not understanding the learning problem. Troubleshooting the problem and then making the adjustments to make them successful.
I agree, that many times a public school teacher has a class that lacks discipline because of how they were allowed to behave at home. Sometimes fifty or more percent of a teachers time is spent addressing those problems which takes away from the time of teaching the subject. This is not present in a home schooling environment.
One of the things that I did when teaching music in the schools was to become the troubleshooter for students who were not able to understand or follow the normal instructions for a class. As one of the teachers was fond of saying “please take this student in to a practice room and work your magic to get them going.”
That magic consisted of asking questions and listening carefully to the child as well as observing the mechanical physical activities of playing an instrument. I probably knew a lot more about the workings of the physical body regarding playing an instrument than any of the regular teachers. I didn’t learn that in a classroom at college. It was my own research from books and other sources that created it.
Public schools are also faced with the age old intelligence cycle. Every three or four years there appears a superior group of students that gets everything right and makes a teachers work much easier. In the off years the work is much harder.
This may have been discussed before, but there is a user by the name of “piscesmystery” on photobucket. Under the album “misc images”, there are some very eerie images referencing Kaine, Neil, redheads, masons, gullible children. Sure makes ones mind wander to the possibility of Ky’s case being tied to bio dad’s family and their affiliation.
I agree totally with Blink’s reply to erose about teachers needing to spend time learning from books and other sources outside the academic environment.
I have know several people with dyslexia in my lifetime. None were less than very smart. The major problem is the brain does not operate as does most. Things get mixed in various ways. Sometimes it is simply an eye problem and others it is a verbal or hearing problem. It also manifests itself in speech.
There are various levels of these problems from mild to severe. If Blink has experienced dyslexia, she has done a super job of overcoming it. The proof is the clarity of her written work and replies to our comments. I also believe that ADD is a form of dyslexia where the brain is operating in two or more paths that interfere with one another.
Thank you ATG- I have never had dyslexia. I do have ADD- diagnosed around the age of 35.
B
To clarify, I know the Freemason connection has been discussed, but not sure about that particular photo album.
http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/07/19/five-findings-in-the-lead-investigation-that-forced-the-resignation-of-superintendent-carole-smith/
3. When the district was asked to explain the problems, it tried to hide them.
Fridley shared the database with Jon Isaacs, PPS’s chief spokesman and public information officer, in February 2015.
Smith hand-picked Isaacs for her cabinet in 2013 after he successfully ran the district’s 2012 campaign to pass a construction bond. He was given a raise and promoted to chief of communications and public affairs in 2014; his background was as a political consultant—not a public information officer.
Fridley, the report says, “informed Mr. Isaacs that the database report was missing some data.”
But Isaacs provided WW with only an excerpt of the database—a portion that failed to show PPS had apparently made no fixes on some of the sinks and fountains after the testing in 2011 and 2012.
As the report notes: “In one significant instance, the former Chief of Communications & Public Affairs knowingly provided incomplete excerpts of the water testing database to Willamette Week.”
Isaacs disputed the finding Monday, saying he followed district protocol for records requests, and other top officials knew what he was doing.
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So now, could it also be that PPS did the same thing in Kyron’s case? What exactly were the missing documents and information that LE wanted from Skyline that was purged? Hmmmmm? If they withheld information about not checking some drinking fountains or even worse the information was altered or hit the shredder, what do you think they would have done to cover-up any liability in Kyon’s disappearance?
And I’m surprised in the comments as Beth Slovic of WW, mentions other cases involving PPS’s failures that WW had reported on, she jumps from stories in 2009 to 2015. No mention at all of the fact that in 2010, there most likely would have been no abduction of a little seven year old boy had Smith made sure policies already in place were being strictly followed at each PPS location, including Skyline, where Keefer didn’t even follow his own that day. Keep in mind Matt Shelby who was the public information officer (title?)for PPS in 2010, went on to be a spokesperson for Kitzhaber. Political allrighty. PPS seems to be very good at playing the cover-up game.
What a mess! I still will never understand either bio’s reasoning for not suing that school and it’s parent PPS, NO MATTER WHO abducted Kyron. Somehow I feel if they had done that, Kyron’s case would have been much further along, if not solved. If this report doesn’t show both Smith’s and the school board’s complete incompetence and negligence on critical safety measures of the school district, I don’t know what does.
@A Texas Grandfather says:
July 20, 2016 at 4:20 pm
O/T Good for you helping out! It’s scary to see my youngest grand kids relying so much on electronics. Unfortunately it’s taking place everywhere. They’re even talking about taking cursive writing completely out of the picture.
What will that generation do when there’s a power outage and no way to recharge their electronics; rely on solar maybe, IDK?
Years ago, my husband and I were in a Mexican restaurant here in OR having dinner and the power went out. (This was like 20 years ago too.) Not one waiter/waitress new how to add up the tickets to let us know what we owed, and not one waiter/waitress knew how to count and give back change. We added up our own tickets and all had to stand in a long line as the boss had to come out and take over the register manually. It was unreal. I don’t know what they did for people who wanted to pay with credit cards, hopefully they still had the old kind of manual machines where you swiped over the embossed cards. I noticed recently that some new credit/debit cards are now flat, so what happens when the power goes out now, IDK.
Technology is lovely, but sometimes one needs to rely on brains.