Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview
New York, NY- For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case. Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman did not speak to any reporters or answer any of their questions regarding Kyron Hormans disappearance. Until Now.
Horman courtesy of People
Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions, and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include wwww.blinkoncrime.com.
In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning, Horman maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.
“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”
“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”
Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.
“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent. I want her to tell me where Kyron is. If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”- Desiree Young
“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date. To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page
Christina Stoy, www.blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney, Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.
Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview. Um, What?
Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.
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thrown off case by DA after he donated?
ungrateful candidate.
Truth, my prepositions dangle all the time, and I quit proof reading my posts a few years ago, so I mis-type words, leave out words, add in words, use the wrong pronouns, and in general my fingers can’t keep up with my brain. One of my favorite things about this site is that grammar doesn’t count, lol.
Why would a sexual predator kill a child at the school? I can’t believe K was sexually assaulted that day at the school and then left there only to be removed later. The only way I can believe he was removed later is if the intention was strictly to kill him, because I don’t see how a sexual assault could have occurred in the midst of the SF. Of course, I could be wrong, but that would be a huge risk, IMO.
Blink does emphasize that no one ever saw Kyron leave the building, so it is possible he did not leave of his own volition. The creepy guy might have incapacitated him and placed him in a container. Unfortunately that is a scenario I find plausible.
It occurred to me that I am having trouble reconciling Blink’s profile and a custodian or skilled laborer type. Any input on that?
1. I could be wrong. I’m not, but I could be.
2. A personal- mission based, sexually motivated offender would likely not assault the victim at the school, however, if something went wrong and to avoid detection I could see the potential.
3. Lots of offenders in skilled-labor positions, especially those associated with access to children.
4. To clarify-he was seen exiting the building with SZ as discussed. So technically he did leave the building.
5. Yes, plausible. I cannot rule it out.
B
ATG, I am not sure what VW is referring to as the basement.
vw says:
October 15, 2012 at 3:01 am
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And yes, younger kids on the main floor. Older grades in the basement.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/09/11/kyron-horman-disappearance-series-part-i-desiree-young-v-terri-horman-civil-as-an-oxymoron/comment-page-25/
ATG, You might find this interesting, although a basement is not depicted, the property description is that of a single story with daylight basement. A fact that escaped me before under the statement of significance, is this is a building which replaced another building, and there were significant additions in the late 40′s. This also gives details of the stand alone structures.
http://www.pps.net/cms/lib8/OR01913224/Centricity/Domain/58/Historic%20Building%20Assessment/Skyline_ILS.pdf
ATG, There was a mechanical room added in 1956 thought it does not depict which floor. Ceiling tiles were added in the 60′s which of course means space between the original ceiling and the tiles.
Upon studying the layout and keynotes, it looks to me like the original building has the daylight basement, and the 1948 classroom addition is two stories, with no mention of a basement, and then another classroom addition in the ’50′s (attached to the 2 story addition) is a single story .
@TRuth, wrt “sort of thing has generated new leads in other cases”
I haven’t read much about these situations, and then only here, but my impression it is 100% parents who advocate for new directions and new resources relentlessly with the agency head in charge and others, and who expend resources on PIs and advocate attorneys to advance the investigation. This poor lad lacks that type of parenting imo. One reason suggesting K might have been “chosen” is perhaps SZ knew the parent reputation well enough to predict this advocacy responsibility-avoidant behavior with LE authority figures. Then it only remained to disable Terri. Perhaps he had access to the steroid use info on K, and to D’s past history, suggesting a local DEA or clackamus or Portland LE connection. I wonder if the assigned PPB school resource officer was ruled out?
erose
Skyline school is built with a basement set into the rise of the land. Many schools are constructed in a similar manner. My high school was built that way. A portion of the basement is exposed because of the slope with a portion not exposed.
The cafeteria of Skyline was located in the “lower floor” or basement. Many schools were built without a cafeteria in the 1920′s and 1930′s. Children brought their lunch in a brown paper bag or a metal lunch kit and ate outside in good weather. When cafeterias became important, they were often built in an unused basement location or a separate building was constructed.
I agree, fwiw, Kyron is not still at Skyline and I’m pretty sure he is not at Forest Park. I am intrigued though by the idea that no witness saw Kyron leave the property. I have not been around an elementary school for awhile but it is significant to me, that on a science fair morning, no one saw Kyron leave. He was seen leaving the classroom, with SZ, and was he seen leaving the building? I will go back and read, I promise. I thought he was seen going out a side door.
He left the property, somehow, by the afternoon.
Back to ground zero and SZero we go……….I’m going back to old posts now.
What kind of creepy guy was pushing a cart? OK. Down the rabbit hole I go.
Stay tuned on the rabbit front, lol, Quizzie is pulling it out of his hat on demand next few posts
B
one argument against K being in or near the school, or even K’s home, is the one and only thing mcso knew how to do, and did repeatedly, was search. It is odd then that that is the ONLY intervention with mcso that mother can think of. Or her chief advisor. Personally, I think calling her and telling her the Wall was down was pretty passive-aggressive by a pot-stirrer it seems.
My bat ears alert.
Not sure what my mission is but I will submit the following.
“Creepy Guy”. I don’t recall anything mentioned about the creepy guy (or anyone else) wheeling anything around other than speculation that someone could have wheeled a subdued Kyron in a closed container to a vehicle.
In reviewing some of the past Blink and SM comments, it sounds like some 7/8 grade students were posting on Facebook about a “creepy guy” observed behind the school by the dumpsters.
It seems the original comments about the Facebook posts were in O-live comments and/or on WS. Apparently the Facebook posts by students disappeared relatively soon after posting.
I also cannot recall if the “creepy guy” was seen on June 4 or before that date.
The first mention I found on BOC was this.
“blue says:
July 27, 2010 at 1:50 am
Do you have any evidence about Facebook postings among Skyline students who said there was a “creepy guy” wandering around Skyline the morning of June 4th?
Just wondering if this has been addressed.”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-2/#comment-1608515
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SM extracted comments:
“But the other thing : One WS member said some kids were talking about a creepy guy at the rear of the school on their FB accounts. This would have to be a WS member who live in the area and knew some names. Then no more said about it in the beginning.”
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=trqrdhos71dqbmb35i352sood6&topic=9000.msg1275969#msg1275969
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“This post from neighbor, really surprised me, because I don’t remember reading this.
‘It was always my assumption that she provided the opportunity and used a willing bystander. The best candidate that comes to mind is the “creep” that 7/8th grades saw near the dumpsters. Sorry, I can find the link later.’
‘Rose! I remember that! I remember reading it on oregonlive in the comments section (I think). OMGosh, I’ll try to look for it later.
Just wanted to add that I don’t remember those exact words but I remember something about 7th/8th graders seeing a creep by the dumpsters. I thought it was in reference to where her truck was parked? I’m trying to remnember the exact words used so I can search the phrase…
BBL’ “
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9000.msg1276628#msg1276628
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Some images of the school putting the comments into context.
Dumpsters and rolling container:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/quizzi1/School%20Video%20Image%20Captures/28_zps7a5880ec.jpg
Rolling container by the boiler room / cafeteria doors:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/quizzi1/School%20Video%20Image%20Captures/08_zpsea83b4db.jpg
Pulled back view of above including gym side access door:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/quizzi1/School%20Video%20Image%20Captures/07_zpsb620c6b6.jpg
Overview of school grounds from behind the school.
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/quizzi1/Skyline%20School/03%202010%2005%2013%20Leave%20through%20front_zpsxatejjm3.jpg
This image shows the outbuildings behind the school. The building on the lower right is the covered play area. The dumpsters are located at the “left” end of this building. The smaller building on the left side of the back lot is a garage and probably contains a shop area and/or storage. I see that in this photo it appears there are also dumpsters between the two outbuildings right next to the two cars.
Very near the dumpsters are the tracks of a vehicle (likely a mower) leading off the parking lot onto the grass. Point being, there is easy access, vehicle or not, to the area behind the covered play area. The space behind the trees and shrubs is likely not viewable from the school. We have discussed this area as a possible temporary hiding area, as it has quick access from the exit by Room 109, just down the stairs to the track, then NE on the track, and up the bank by the trees.
This image also shows a pathway I highlighted. It is still my feeling that SZ escorted K along this route to the south parking lot.
This image was captured on 5/13/2010, just 23 days before Kyron disappeared. By my count, ten of the twenty-six vehicles on the property are white or light colored. How many of them are white trucks? For what it is worth, one of the vehicles is parked next to the gym side door, for loading/unloading from/into the gym?
This image also shows a pathway I highlighted. It is still my feeling that SZ escorted K along this route to the south parking lot.
Which image are you suggesting was taken 5/13/10?
Big thanks and Kudos Quizzie- I promise not to abuse it, lol. As usual you found exactly what I was referring to. I also think this corroborates a former post by a minor and witness , initials MZ.
You said: This image also shows a pathway I highlighted. It is still my feeling that SZ escorted K along this route to the south parking lot.
Agreed.
B
If Kyron was murdered at the school. I see this scenario, which would/could fit some of the circumstances.
Kyron leaves with SZ and perp incapacitates Kyron in the parking lot either in or next to his vehicle (stun gun maybe) probably somewhere out back of the school. Proceeds to murder him, by strangulation. (Particularly easy if the vehicle was some sort of van.) Leaves him in the vehicle, under some sort of cover. Goes back inside the school for an alibi, or for whatever other reason to finish whatever unfinished business he/she had there or returns to his/her job there, if employed there. End of school day, drives around looking for a place to dispose of the body, which would explain JK’s afternoon truck siting if the perp drove a truck. Returns late that night (or actually I think it was 1 a.m.) to dispose of the body over the cliff at the end of the road (I think there was a cliff?), but neighbor releases dogs, which of course would smell body, so, Perp leaves and finds another spot, who knows how far away or where. Could be many, many miles and hours away.
#1 This would explain the very unusual truck sightings by JK & his neighbor.
#2 I don’t think dogs brought in the night of June 4 would smell or find anything there at the school, as it was all done within perp’s own vehicle.
#3 Explains why no one saw anything, or heard anything for the same reason.
For me the question is motive. Did Kyron know who he was? Had this perp been molesting Kyron? Did this perp find out about the dr. apptmt. and have to act NOW? Or was he unknown to Kyron and perhaps part of a ring of creeps who were grooming and molesting little children, maybe a cohort of whomever was molesting Kyron? (For all we know if Kyron was being molested, it could have been being shared via internet or some other means, photos, etc.) Which still makes me wonder about someone such as Logan Storm who it appears was familiar with that school. Or someone like Stephen Rockett who took photos of kids at miscellaneous sport events around the area.
Whatever the motive, this was a very ballsy move, broad daylight, middle of very active school morning and I think if this is what may have happened, then this perp had to be familiar with the school grounds AND the school’s openness and casual attitudes. So that tells me it was someone local. I truly don’t think it was someone who had never stepped foot in that school before, i.e., some stranger who saw the open campus sign out front and just stepped on in to satisfy some murderous lust, like some creep like Adam Brown.
This mere possibility of such a scenario taking place, makes me wonder how on earth KH can let his little girl attend the same school. What, btw, does TMH think about her daughter attending Skyline? Did/does she fear for her safety there and did she express that to her attorneys? I frankly, was surprised that it never came up in as an issue in any of the divorce documents.
Knowing the negligence that took place at Skyline on June 4, and more than likely, many other days at that school, one of my first demands for my daughter’s safety would have been that she never attends that school. Negligence alone would have been enough reason for me, (which I definitely would have wanted pointed out in writing in court documents) but adding in the possible bullying and kid-torture that little girl may have been subject to, after both Mr. Horman’s seriously flawed lack of parental guidance and irresponsible and uncaring public release of sexts regarding mother, along with the media’s blatantly obvious attempts to help vilify and accuse TMH of murder without due process, would have made that issue #1 priority for me in my demands for my daughter’s upbringing. Kids can be cruel. *Your mommy wears army boots*, would surely be child’s play in this little one’s circle. I can even imagine hearing some of the parents whispering to their kids, stay away from her, her mother’s a child murderer, and apples don’t fall far, blah blah blah.
Were I KH, my little girl would be in an entirely different school, and I probably would have gone as far was asking for a work transfer to another Intel location, so she could still attend school with her little neighbors without fearing any bullying. We’re I KH, I might even have requested a legal name change for myself and my daughter, so that the Horman stigma that HE,and his FIRST WIFE CREATED, would not be on the back of my little girl. Oh well, that’s just me, slipping off soap box.
(Of course if he requested a name change, the crater would have more reason to believe KH guilty. LOL)
The new principals are filling some very big shoes. The former principals at Lane (Karl Logan), Lee (Sascha Perrins), Astor (John Walden) and Skyline (Ben Keefer) all were considered star leaders in those positions and were promoted to principal positions at larger schools or to supervise fellow principals. Markham’s principal, Sarah Lewins, also was promoted to run a larger school, Roseway Heights.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/07/five_new_principals_named_for.html
What a strange thing to say. Keefer hasn’t been at Skyline for 5 years right, why re-connect him to Skyline Elementary when he was principle at George Middle school for 2 years and has been at Vernon Middle School for a 2-3 years. Weird thing for the reporter to say, IMO.
Anytime Blink. Anything to help.
The image of the school is a Google Earth history capture captioned “Imagery Date: 5/13/2010” at the bottom center of the picture.
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/quizzi1/Skyline%20School/03%202010%2005%2013%20Leave%20through%20front_zpsxatejjm3.jpg
erose
You are searching for what actually was added over the years.
In 1938, electrical systems were most often built with knob and tube wiring. That is bare wires on ceramic insulators spaced six to ten inches apart to prevent shorts with circuits protected by fuses. Lighting was incandescent bulbs mounted in white glass globes. Shortly after that time, the NEC (national electric code) recognized a new type of wire called Romex, It was a paper insulated wire with two conductors overwrapped with another material, most often cotton to make a single unit rather than spreading them apart. Some single conductors were wrapped with cotton or asbestos for insulation.
Yes,paper and cotton behave as insulators if the voltage is not too much for them to provide insulation. Rubber is an insulator as well. Lamp cords were insulated with all three types until the late 1940′s when thermoplastics began to appear.
The heating in the winter was probably steam produced in boilers fired with fuel oil or coal. Natural gas was not available until 1957 when the Northwest pipeline was built bringing natural gas from West Texas.
The Bonneville power project did bring electric power to the area. Advancements during WWII in electrical knowledge and equipment including wiring, motors, pumps and other things changed the way systems were designed.
Schools were not built during the war years due to the restrictions on building materials for the war. Following 1945, school district populations grew with the baby boomers {the generation born between 1944 and 1964) and the pent-up building needs were released. (Our children are all baby boomers.)
In addition, the school years were extended to twelve grades in 1944 in many districts and nationwide by 1945. By 1947 a huge school construction and remodeling effort was in progress everywhere.
What is a mechanical room? It is a room where all the mechanical and sometimes electrical system are located. They were called boiler rooms in earlier times and some probably continued to contain boilers. Pumps for water,valves for control of water and steam. Large electrical panels with high capacity contactors and starters including large breakers for the motors are things in a mechanical room. Mechanical rooms are usually located in an area where children cannot get into them-a basement location or an area central to a building that is locked for safety reasons.
This is a long story about things. There are a lot of places in a school building that students and teachers do not know about because they are not allowed to go there. Maintenance and mechanical people know about them.
If you have Google Earth, use it to look at Skyline. There is a street view available by dragging the little man down to a place you want to view and then using the compass above the little man to move 360 degrees. It is like standing on the ground yourself. There you will see the elevation differences of land and structures along with roads and drives.
erose says:
August 23, 2016 at 3:13 am
1. I could be wrong. I’m not, but I could be.
It’s not that I think your profile is wrong, I just don’t see creepy guy, or furnace repair guy fitting that type of profile. Maybe I misunderstand the terminology in the context it is used. I think of highly organized, IT savvy (my word, not yours) and able to go underground for long periods at a time (am using my memory), as someone with a professional education, with monetary resources and no family ties to speak of. Where am I wrong?
2. A personal- mission based, sexually motivated offender would likely not assault the victim at the school, however, if something went wrong and to avoid detection I could see the potential.
Does highly organized coincide with uber-high risk behavior, because I think an assault at the school would be supremely risky for anyone other than a school employee, which seems EM would have been able to ID, so can’t we all but eliminate them?
3. Lots of offenders in skilled-labor positions, especially those associated with access to children.
The only skilled labor positions that come to my mind that fit your profile are the IT staff, I’m just not seeing the vendors, custodians and repair personnel fitting the profile. What am I missing about that?
4. To clarify-he was seen exiting the building with SZ as discussed. So technically he did leave the building.
I get it he was seen leaving the building, not the grounds.
5. Yes, plausible. I cannot rule it out.
In my mind, he either willing left of his own volition and was put in a vehicle (most likely) against his will, or he was alive and incapacitated. The only scenario for SZ to kill him on the school grounds would be if that was the original intent (not likely) or if he were assaulted first (so risky) or if what you stated in #2.
Thanks for the lesson Blink.
2011 article describing his first move from Skyline.
bless you Quizzi. Would that any mcso detective were so sharp.
Uber Ditto.
B
Quizzi’s last pic, more rustic and not highlighted, does emphasize how close that bldg egress is
to the soccer field being mowed that morning. an alternative “departure” theory.
@TRuth. When has the public ever seen KH’s protection of k’s psychological wellbeing?
Polar opposite consistantly imo. Both with regard to severance of mother and maternal relatives and wrt the Antimother and her progeny. Not to mention car show trinket sales duty. And, don’t you think peer child comments adverse to mother would be welcomed by him, reinforcing his position with her?
Shall we place bets on Reese’ Sept/Oct campaign platform?
Soldier and sidekicks write FB posts to him under the illusion he reads
her site. My guess is: continue mergers with small PDs, stay in budget,
supports for correction employees. (Ought to be a focus on drug distribution
busts and sex trafficking.) I don’t think “detecting” is a campaign winner.
likely there’ll be no opponent.
ATG, Yes and from what I can tell the basement only exists in the historical portion of the school.
This is not a witness, but SZ, IMO. I think he was walked to the unknown car in the south lot and was driven off. I am trying to work theories around Eliza’s comment, but I can’t seem to form a logical theory. Trying to open my mind.
IMO, just as Quizzical and Blink state the exit route to the unknown car in the south lot that investigators seek to as Blink said “self-identify” (yeah, right). People might have seen Kyron leaving, but not paid attention or known it was him. It seems like the real timeline is on or after 9:12 (TH’s alibi) and before 10:00 am.
How many parents and cars were left after 9:12? What cars did they observe? Who parked next to this unknown car? Was there ever a diagram of the parking lot and who parked where?
Isn’t the white truck just a red herring? Isn’t that “sighting” of K near a white truck just TH and K and k going back to get K’s forgotten items and then returning to the school? Portland was inundated with a BOLO on white trucks, white trucks, white trucks and I doubt it was a white truck at all, just like the red head BOLO.
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The fourth focus seeks the identify of a witness who parked their vehicle on 4 June before 8:45 a.m. on 4 June in the Skyline School parking lot on the south side of the lot.
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/august112010/kyron-update.php
They know he parked before 8:45 because he was in EM’s room at or just after this time stamped photo.
http://www.blinkoncrime.com has confirmed the EXIF data on the image includes the timestamp of June 4 2010 at 8:43AM PST.
So if SZ was in EM’s room about 8:45, what do we make of the time between 8:45 and 9:12 (TH’s alibi)? Or am I missing something?
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/#more-6893
TRuth, You probably know by now, but that principal article is dated 2011. I clicked on it but I use the O not for the articles but for the comments, and once reading them I realized this article was older otherwise I would have thought it new as well.
@TRuth. Your post about child bullying of kiara wrt her mother (apples dont fall far from) reminds me of Mickelson’s #2′s public tweet calling her a Jeykell-Hyde. Honey, even for free child care, Court cover, and nightly sex play, father should NEVER have exposed her to that imo dysfunctional family.
And if father’s told some child monitor they’re out of her life, show em the whole tribe at the car show, esp the deformed head with the tree frog sculpture. I would steer my 7 yo to the other side of the show rather than run into her and let k think extreme body art, involving body alteration, is normal.
If I were SZ leaving the So lot, I’d turn right (more rural, less populated) then take that regular
trucker’s route east across Portland and hightail it out of State about 40 min away to that
forest area in So WA.
Oregon’s SARs would not stray out of State lines would be SZ’s theory.
Not to mention how close and forested that region is.
That’s 84 to 14.
Looking at the map, seeing N Bonneville reminded me the preceding year that power co had it’s employees and subs crawling all over Skyline’s physical plant (out bldgs, and main bldg utility room) as well as teaching in the classroom.
MCSO shoukd’ve ruled every last campus visitor from that enterprise out.
Here’s a scandal for you. If in 2010 the da/le had determined a Bonneville Power Co Solar for Schools employee had in the course of his employment–sent to work in a PLS ElEd– committed the crime, that woukd’ve set back a key public solar program rollout (poor Kitz & Cylvia would weep), stopped it in its regional tracks in schools, hurt the nascent solar mfg industry in OR, been a big hit to a powerful Power Co, and reduced physical plant utility savings to PPS. How far would politicians and businessmen/investors dependent on Bonneville go to misdirect from that suspect pool?
KM has used an accident involving one one Kaine’s BACA friends to announce on FB that she spent time with little K. So she is his go-to for babysitting needs? If I were him I would have forbidden the reference to my daughter on social media by any and all long ago.
erose
Your referenced pdf file of the historical paperwork shows the “basement” windows at ground level on the front entrance photo. Those are high windows to obtain outside light for the area below grade.
If you look at the external building photo you will also see similar windows at ground level which indicates usable space beneath the main floor.
There is a reference in the paperwork to requirements for building fireproof buildings from regulations developed in 1910. Following WWI many new schools were built in the early 1920′s. Although the physical structural elements were concrete and brick (double or triple laid) and often faced with tile, some walls were plaster walls with wood lath as shown in the photo. Floors were often wood that was finished with oil based stains and maintained with oil coatings. Not fire-proof at all. Window frames were also wood and painted with oil based paints. Water based paints did not exist. Fire drills were common when I was in school.
The elementary school buildings I attended all had half basement areas where steam pipes and electrical wires were run. They did not have outside light. This does not appear to be the construction of Skyline.
One of the major things that happened in this case was that the school district immediately hired or caused to be hired a group of lawyers to protect the district from possible liability. This is an impediment to truthful investigation. It makes the job of LE very difficult and when we have interference from management types in LE like this case (an elected sheriff who appears to be mentally impaired as well as ignorant) it is almost impossible to achieve satisfactory results.
Quizzi, where did the 5/13/2010 photo come from? Who was taking aerial pictures of Skyline elementary and why? Was that a google capture? Curious.
Its just a google satellite pass T. Ruth
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In that 5/13/10 photo, interesting to me that there’s 3 cars parked back by the dumpsters. I wonder why anyone would want to park next to a dumpster? Not where I’d choose to park. Anywho, what is that bright blue thing, the size of a vehicle on the left side of the photo near the bushes int he front/side parking lot? Is that something doctored/added to this photo?
http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/quizzi1/media/Skyline%20School/03%202010%2005%2013%20Leave%20through%20front_zpsxatejjm3.jpg.html
@Quizi, I see it was a google-capture, and thanks for the pictures. So, this image from 5/13/10, was an image that google held onto for Skyline area from that date and it was still available on Google after Kyron went missing. I wonder if it’s possible, to obtain from google, information on anyone who google-mapped the Skyline elementary? I don’t know how that works, if one used google map to get a view of the school, would there IP show up at google? Anyone know?
I am in need of a refresher. I seem to have forgotten so much of the earlier discussions. I forgot about the “creepy guy” stuff. I wish someone could put together a comprehensive narrative and a timeline and a who’s who list. I’ve contemplated going back and re-reading every comment on Blink’s site, but it is a dubious task.
I agree with you T.Ruth. Why is little K at that school? It makes no sense to me.
Scenario for Kyron leaving the school with SZ
Maybe Kyron was being groomed by someone at the school and that was what the walking into a room where TH was, looking around and then walking out again was about. He wanted to tell his stepmom what was happening to him but when he was about to say something he lost his nerve and instead walked away.
Whomever was grooming him may have told him dire things would happen if he told anyone. Things like his parents would not want him anymore if they knew they might send him away. SZ may even have told Kyron he could be arrested. Seven year old boys are pretty gullible. This makes sense because it sounds like Kyron went willingly with SZ as though he knew him.
SZ may have become worried that Kyron was about to tell someone about him and decided to remove Kyron before he told anyone what was going on. SZ may have had knowledge of the layout of the school or maybe he went to the science fair early and checked out the best way to leave with a boy in tow and not draw attention.
What happened to Kyron after he left the school? maybe SZ kept him or did something to him. There are child molesters who are not murderers. But we don’t have any idea because SZ had a 6 hour head start to do what ever he wanted courtesy of Ms. P.
T. Ruth says:
August 23, 2016 at 3:18 pm
note: The article is from July, 2011, so Keefer’s history is complete for that time period.
I learn from Emilie Saks-Webb of the St Johns Neighborhood Association that a lot of people in “SJ” still work in the river industry.
The 34-year-old mom, freelance copy editor and substitute teacher says she couldn’t imagine living any other place within the city limits.
http://www.oregonlive.com/hg/index.ssf/2014/03/former_funeral_home_in_st_john.html
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9183.0;wap2
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Here’s a question, 6 years ago the spokesperson for PPS, said that Tanner’s recollection of the morning could not be correct, because there were no substitutes at Skyline that morning. The list is above, her name is spelled incorrectly on the list, but I’m pretty sure this is the person who was at the school and she is also a substitute teacher. Was she substituting, or just a chaperone? Is it possible that she was Kyron’s chaperone? And if she was substituting why would Matt say she was not?:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8354.105;wap2
And she was like ‘oh no where’s Kyron there’s only five’ and Mrs. Porter was like it’s okay calm down, calm down he’s probably in the bathroom or getting a drink of water and she said alright I’m going to leave and she left, ” says Tanner Pumala.
But, Portland Public School spokesman Matt Shelby said the account can’t be true: “There were no substitutes at the school that day (the day Kyron disappeared),” he said.
Shelby thinks Pumala may be confused because all week after the disappearance a subsitute teacher has been at the school to help with the stress of the Horman case.
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Whomever that chaperone was, whenever it was, that person knew KYRON was unaccounted for right then and there.
I fear this whole mess is caused simply by PPS trying to cover their ass and LE trying to assist them in doing so.
The little square thing by my name has mysteriously changed pattern and color. Forgot what you call it.
there was a special ed para sub that day.
been published here, I’m
too lazy to go look up that info again.
I think that’s incorrect. Iirc there was an evaluator in the class for a student other than Kyron, who was not there on Fridays. I believe this was a rotational position within the school district.
B
so it would be correct the sub was not a certified teacher.
Evaluator, I do not know about certified teacher.
B
TRuth, Great research. What if she was a sub, but that day she was there in the capacity of a chaperone. TP might have ID’d her as a sub because she had been, but Shelby could have made his statement based on a technicality of her role that day.
I have wondered if it was a sub, and not the evaluator, if perhaps they were in another class that day- or even just attending the fair, but they are not on the list I am aware of.
B
@T. Ruth says:
August 24, 2016 at 12:24 pm
In that 5/13/10 photo, interesting to me that there’s 3 cars parked back by the dumpsters. I wonder why anyone would want to park next to a dumpster? Not where I’d choose to park. Anywho, what is that bright blue thing, the size of a vehicle on the left side of the photo near the bushes int he front/side parking lot? Is that something doctored/added to this photo?
http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/quizzi1/media/Skyline%20School/03%202010%2005%2013%20Leave%20through%20front_zpsxatejjm3.jpg.html
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Yes. I also photoshopped in the blue thing to represent a possible parking place for the escape vehicle, but I never posted the image link or a narrative.
Just as a reminder to everyone- the grass along the soccer field/bank toward the school (not the field itself) was very high and not cut for a days after Kyron’s disappearance. It would have been very difficult to see past that from a variety of angles.
B
@ Houndog says: August 24, 2016 at 10:52 am
I bet he has. That would never stop someone with
Borderline features, hypothetically speaking of course.
Teri should sue for equal time with the “crazy” mistress’ visitation (facetious).
The thot of k spending time with tree frog head gives one the vapors.
I wouldnt care of she were Dr. Spock reincarnate (or some better example)- the moment you publicly bash this childs mother you have zero business spending any time with her- most especially in any sort of care giver capacity.
B
@TRuth, “Does highly organized coincide with uber-high risk behavior, because I think an assault at the school would be supremely risky ”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/01/21/kyron-horman-missing-case-terri-horman-breaks-her-silence-in-people-magazine-interview/comment-page-84/#comment-2255532
The more organized, as a technical offender term, the less risky something like this is.
Imo part of the organization would be he had a legitimate reason to be there if questioned.
The Solar for Schools staff page has turned over entirely, and changed, but in 2010 staff bios
with pics were on the page, and it listed their college educations. iirc likely all were IT competent.
It was a pool of business staffers likely tohave had a hiking and camping bkground in regional forested areas.
correcting: above quote was erose, not TRuth.
BTW I kinda like Antimother as a descriptor, metaphorically and literally.
KH was on “sabbatical” from Intel and making trips. Perhaps
she accompanied a CA jaunt.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/08/portland_man_arrested_on_suspi.html#incart_river_mobile_home looks like both uncle and keefer imo
I had forgotten SolarforSchools was under
bonneville environmental foundation, a separate entity from Bonn. Power.
list of their corp partners:
http://www.b-e-f.org/our-partners/current-partners/
they sell to govt agrncies and public utilities.
bet the kitzhabers stuck their fingers in this pie plenty.