Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010. Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past, I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another. This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases. I am proud of that. I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.
Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom, Terri Horman. Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey. Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child. There are dozens of sources, collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.
Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did. I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping. Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode. When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her, I most certainly respected that. I still do.
While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure, I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth. There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions. Not what I signed on for. A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience. He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.
I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding. Feel free to discuss the show below.
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well, is timeline is wrong so far, lol.
The fractured picture of TH and Kyron was a nice touch.
Your in my mood, I can tell.
Honestly- Ramsey this last week on top of it and I want to scream.
B
My laser focus:
“There is much concern … that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions.”
Darn Straight!!
” Not what I signed on for. …He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.”
imo by Soldier; the bio string pullers. those who “love” them.
Good gosh. Just Right. And let the crazies play out.
And Reese, Gates, Shults, Reiser, Levi, Kafoury, Leonard, and Saltzmann, fish, Moawad, Underhill, Rees, shoukd step up explaining the past 6 years of coverup and failure.
One thing we know, despite the O’s new Editoral page’s Laura Gunderson’s avowals that Oregonians demand transparency (Saltzmann editorial yesterday), the O and other local media have failed wholly to seek and publish transparent, non-investigation jeopardizing facts time after time for 6 years and have knowingly published lies (ie, ” last known person to see kyron”). Maxine B should have a Red S for “spurious stuff” on her byline.
“I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding. Feel free to discuss the show below.”
Phil’s interns probably go his timeline from the oregonian or kgw which have always erred.
wish someone had been live tweeting quotes.
Desiree’s description of Kyron’s classroom location and where TH was standing was incorrect. TH reminded Phil that DY had only been inside the school once on the first day of kinder prior to Kyron’s disappearance.
B
Overall, she did well. Let’s see who caught new info.
I haven’t watched Dr. Phil in years. I don’t know if I can stomach watching this although I really want to know what Terri has to say. Decisions decisions.
The first show I have ever seen I taped last week. Fwiw, Terri held her own. Phil was fair and listened well. At one point, even compassionate to her reminder that she loved Kyron as her own son- she was part of his life at 3 days and this is her loss as well.
He hammers her tomorrow.
B
Thanks maybe I will try to find a You Tube of it later. Between my youngest speech therapy and soccer practice I will miss today’s show.
@blink. inthe promo clip, she said BOTH parents had not been at school since 1st day of K.
Hammering on Day 2 was ratings necessary imo.
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@TRuth re yr Q on last thread. K’s K teacher, S MacBeth, was downstairs next door to Esther Matgews, tge K teacher who OK’d him going outside to “help” a male stranger carry something in. Doubtless when Terri K and k went to MacBeth’s room, K saw something next door in Mathews’ he wanted to return to.
How can Phil excoriate Terri for not “speaking” in 6 years but not rake Mathews the PPS employee
who let him go oytside with an unknown male over the proverbial coals for not telling what she witnessed to all and sundry? Her pension is vested. The Statute of Limitations to sue her has past. Why is no one interviewing the last known teacher to see Kyron who said he could go outside with Suspect Zero, a stranger to both of them?
To be addressed in piece.
B
meg.
maybe https://youtu.be/YBRaggyLq8s
The biggest news for me was that the science fair was Thursday and not Friday. DY had not been at the school since the first day of kindergarten…tsk tsk…what about graduation from kindergarten as well as first grade graduation. Big deals in my family. Shame on Phil for not playing Kaines response to DY about the “emails”. I actually understand now where Terri was standing…the top of the stairs where the ones going down to the door where the busses where. She was on the same floor as Kyron’s classroom. Is it true that there are no cell towers on Sauvie Island? Someone said that Dr. P stated in an interview that she did not appear deaf to him…not direct quote..I noticed when Dr. P went up to the map she cocked her head when she could only see his back and he began speaking. The ending was just crappy editing but what would one expect.
What response to DY from kaine on the emails? I may have missed that.
Terri is not deaf but she definitely is hearing impaired in one ear and uses a hearing amplifier at times. All her kids know sign language- how much proof does one need, lol?
Agreed, I caught her when Phil turned around and if you watched she does not respond until he turns back around and speaks.
It is absolutely true there are NO cell towers on Sauvie. Hows that for genius investigating? We go into way more detail.
B
I’d love to know what the true incentive is of shows like Dr. Phil & the made for tv investigation of JBR’s murder. It comes across as counter productive, when ‘professionals’, are implying it all went down just like this… or he said, she said…and playing affected people against each other (or in Kyron’s case, exasperate the animosity). How do these programs HELP the victims?
IMO, it doesn’t, except create lynch mobs who don’t ask their own questions or look for proof behind info. presented. Taking it at face value, (media, Dr. Phil, etc) produces fear mongering, diversions from the truth and so forth. At the end, nothing has changed or been revealed, for greater good of these cases.
I’m angry as h e double hockey sticks, after wasting time I’ll never get back, watching these kangaroo court crap shows. Sucked in again.
Just my poor economic, CDN two cents. I’m so frustrated in these cases where critical thinking is overcome by my heart and emotions. Anyone else get this way?
You already know- $$.
The Murder Business.
I am very much that way this week so I just throw it upstairs till it comes back down
B
Is it fair to say that Teri was NOT the last person to see Kyron and there is one or more that DID see Kyron after Teri, but they’re not coming forward? (Or…they don’t know they’re the last ones to see him?).
SMH
In a variety of legal documents, I can assure you there is zero doubt that Terri Horman was NOT the last to see Kyron Horman.
B
Right right…$$$. Heh! Thanks
Watching Dr. Doosh right now. I’m sure this has been brought up a bazillion times… It seems the school dropped the ball on this, big time and TH is taking the fall?
Im not a fan of wearing Capt. Obvious’ hat and I probably am….but how did his teacher..the school, not notice Kyron was missing??????
on the you tube I posted.
about 23:50 or 24:50, Porter (flanked by keefer & hall) told them she thot T took K to kiara’s med apptmt (which k
didn’t even have and WHY would T do that to an older sib anyway?
For Kaine to forgo a suit against PPS and Porter utterly failing to
follow policy and procedure, apart from Mathew’s act dispatching
Kyron outside with a stranger male, Kaine must have had big motivation over and above steroids because a several mill payout in a juror-sympathetic tort case woukd’ve meant no more need to work at Intel anyway, and a paid off house. Although, characterologically, fearing Terri would get a % in a divorce settlement would deter a resentful husband if he was one.
@Ragdoll. Phil loudly proclaimed inthe first 10 min he
has the NUMBER ONE TALK show (self advertising).
Imo it is not a talk show. That’s say Oprah.
He’s a One Man Show along the lines of Nat’l Enquirer.
Ambush journalism on occasion gets things right.
As far as I know, PPS only started having “sign out” sheets in the offices of schools after Kyron disappeared..
I have spoken with parents who agree with that and some that say they had to sign a visitor sheet when picking up.
B
@about 25:30. hot damn.
Staton HIMSELF, accompanied by his chief
Co-Site Commander (rivalrously with Reiser as I prior documented by links), apparent
Lackey, and later Rocket Docket Promoter Gates, brought that stupid flyer to Terri to OK!
I infer fromthus Staton personally directed the “investigation” in 2010,
and also that Terri was stupid as H for saying yes to
anthing Staton asked.
IKR.
B
promoteE gates
correction that’s at 35:30
Terri said there was a sign out sheet in the office at that time 6/4 she woukd have used.
I submit she would not have said that unless she via Houze at a trial coukd
provide evidence both that was so via Hall AND that it was her past practice and custom to use it (via Hall depo).
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One thing Terri should have had in mind, when DDS spoke in interview (with BOC) she had
testified before a GJ and
confirmed her answers by poly having bargained for true results in writing
That is NOT Terri’s posture
To talk on Natl TV having never done a depo, a GJ, a clear poly results in writing, and so on imo jeopardizes her imo, & she is Kyron’s only real advocate. She’s pulled every leg of a 3 cornered stool out from under her defense attorney’s negotiating position by doing so. Imo now she will never get her true poly results in writing. She’s thrown away Houze’ leverage imo. penny wise, pound foôlish imo. .
I do not believe Terri would ever agree to take a poly under any set of circumstances again nor does she have to. I also do not believe she is a POI any longer.
B
On Dr P part one – the story hasn’t changed from what I was told by TH. The timeline (directly on clock) is not of much matter to me, as TH never had firm times… she doesn’t wear a watch. She was a SAHM and time wasn’t an issue running her errands as long as she got home before the bus did. I’m still watching it here, but I wish this had all come out long ago, and I know I tried to argue when people would get it wrong, but I was deemed the ‘loonie’ or even accused of being involved. So ludicrous. But at least now, the TRUTH is coming out. Still not sure I trust Dr P…. really know it’s all about ratings for him, but it’s HER life, and her wanting Kyron found. (That’s always been her focus, Find Kyron First)
Any word on how this golf course became a place to search? And why are they still reporting she was the last person to see him?
http://katu.com/news/local/sheriffs-office-search-near-golf-course-last-weekend-related-to-kyron-horman-case
No relation to Terri of any kind.
B
about 34:00 oh gosh bio dude jumps her bones
as it were the 25th before absconding with her baby girl the 26th.
imo he’s capable of anything.
Desiree also claims that she has read emails from Terri to her friends saying she hated Kyron. “She states very clearly that she shared her feelings with Kaine,” Desiree says.
But, Kaine is adamant he had no idea about Terri’s supposed feelings. “I haven’t seen any emails, so hearing that — that’s a little bit of a shock to me,” Kaine says.
http://www.drphil.com/shows/2069/
Young said she believes Terri Horman had a drinking problem that led to Kyron Horman’s unhappiness. She also cited emails that she said showed that Terri Horman hated Kyron. One email, Young said, claimed Terri and Kaine Horman fought the morning Kyron Horman disappeared in June 2010.
Kaine Horman denied the fighting and said that was one of many lies Terri Horman told.
http://www.kptv.com/story/23465152/kyron-horman-case-returns-to-national-spotlight-with-dr-phil-show
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My reference above to Kaines response.
Thank you Ode. Our interview will address the content of the emails I believe DY is referring to, and I think y’all will be as surprised as I was. In no way were they hateful to any children.
B
@TruthPlease
My child goes to a school with a sign in – sign out policy.. If he is late and hadn’t signed in, I get a call. Even if they saw him, I’d still get a call that he’s at the school but hadn’t signed in. He has to go to the office, write his John Henry, then back to class. The school follow s protocol to the T! (We’re raising a procrastinator).
I still don’t get how his teacher didn’t notice his absence that day.
Not faulting him/her…but was attendance not taken?
Overall, in my wee brain, LE wanted to wrap this up, and took control of what the evidence would be. I cannot fathom short cuts, interference, and manipulationin of the investigation were the goals, in exchange for the safety of a missing child.
WAtching KVAL news immediately after the show, they have a body language expert talking about her… accusing her of having some sort of anger showing in her face… says she says she’s lying. What this ‘expert’ doesn’t know is that TH has quirky mannerisms to begin with. She closes herself off much faster now, especially in ‘hostile territory’ than the normal person would.
I can say, knowing her facial expressions in person, that she naturally over emotes facially. The furrowed brow is a natural look when she is listening. And yes, she does have anger about what has happened to her and her family. Especially about LE and DY’s false accusations, especially since she really does see herself as Kyron’s ‘real mom’.
Blink…
“In a variety of legal documents, I can assure you there is zero doubt that Terri Horman was NOT the last to see Kyron Horman.
B”
Do you mean NOT the last to see him?
Jesus, yes. Thanks for pointing that out, corrected
B
I am looking forward to reading YOUR interviews and take on this Blink. I think it sucks that yours got scooped by such a douchebag right down there with Jerry Springer (IMO) and that I was really hoping yours would be published sooner than now.
I agree that getting Kyron’s name out is key to finding him. And that finding him is what will clear TH’s name. I do NOT believe she could harm Kyron. And I do think this will help SOME people realize she is innocent, but the folks who have spent the last 6+ years trashing here will only find more ammo to continue (just like the KVAL reporters who immediately followed Part 1 of the interview on DPhil.)
I do not think TH will catch a break from either bio. They have too much invested in trashing her, and whitewashing their own picket fences… I wish she’d spoken out about Kaine venting about his own lie detector test results. And I wish she’d made it clearer that her driving around was only about 20 mins, which included diaper changes and feedings along the way. I also wonder why she didn’t bring up anything about the interactions with Ms Matthews and SZ… or maybe that will come out tomorrow, when she becomes the media monster again (DPhil likes salacious stuff so will probably emphasize the sexting she did (without bringing up they were out of context), but likely will not even broach the fact KH was seeing his long time mistress after Kyron vanished). Ahhh well… People need to look for Kyron. And we need a BETTER progressive pic of him at age 14!
And I never thought about it before, KH knowing TH was having woes in the marriage would be the biggest red flag for him to get ‘rid’ of his own son. He could never give up a child to a mother figure… IMO
I fear I stopped Kyle I’s recent kgw broadcast with his navel-gazing self-spiel (link on Soldier’s site)
reviewing the Phil Show content a couple minutes before its end. Too many errors. TH did not
say political “corruption.” imo it was “corrections” the meaning being readjustments.
his timeline was wrong. the cell pings on Sauvie was uncorrected (no tower). I lost track, except to say
the only new info is Underhill reached out to Houze to see if he still represents her
Imo if Houze had said “no,” the wristlets woukd be on.
Reese’s most satisfactory conclusion would be an arrest parade
Get a lot of votes with high profile arrests.
Her timing is risky, vs December.
Who said Underhill reached out to Houze?
B
wrt http://katu.com/news/local/sheriffs-office-search-near-golf-course-last-weekend-related-to-kyron-horman-case
kyle in his soliloquy also said the mcso press release said mcso had some “new recruits” to break in..
Duh, look at the mcso website kyle and canzano.
new recruit intake/orientation was9/18, and the following weekend has always been an easy exercise (like a no brush flat golf course type terrain). I hate how these TV locals
take molehills and implant silicone gel until a mountain appears.
@ Blink
“Jesus, yes. Thanks for pointing that out, corrected
B”
ummmm…. nope… try again. You corrected it in MY quote, but not the original quote on (Ragdoll says: September 21, 2016 at 5:59 pm)
Just wanted to make sure you saw it.
thanks, was on my way there,corrected.
B
Did this every hit here? A search at the Golf Course off Hwy 30 last week.
http://kval.com/news/local/sheriffs-office-search-near-golf-course-last-weekend-related-to-kyron-horman-case
What is most of note is THIS part at the bottom of the article:
***snip***
The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office and Multnomah County District Attorney’s Office released the following statement Wednesday:
“Kyron Horman’s parents and members of the public should know that the investigation into Kyron’s disappearance is active, ongoing and includes a recent search effort. Ms. Horman has an open invitation to speak with MCSO. The Multnomah County District Attorney’s Office was in contact with defense attorney Stephen Houze earlier this week and was advised that he continues to represent Terri Horman. Mr. Houze requests no contact with Ms. Horman by law enforcement absent his authorization and her consent.”
kyle did in his soliloquy.
altho i too am fully capable of mishearing.
Here’s a link to Kyron I’s Facebook video picking apart Dr P’s show part 1
https://www.facebook.com/KyleIboshiKGWTV/videos/1146585462088770/
IMO this guy has made it his personal agenda to make HIS spin on the story what people believe. The media isn’t supposed to get so emotionally involved as this guy has (remember he got the text directly from DY when TH showed up at her own divorce hearing?)
@Ode re “She states very clearly that she shared her feelings with Kaine,” Desiree says.”
On Phil she said she stated her feelings about unhappiness in the marriage to Kaine whom she did not think “listened.” She referred to “heated discussions,” but not “fights,” about her marital unhappiness.
@Blink re “I do not believe Terri would ever agree to take a poly under any set of circumstances again nor does she have to. I also do not believe she is a POI any longer.
B”
@ Blink. I’ll go further, she should’ve refused polys 1-:3 entirely.
While she is not a POI, that would never stand between
Reese, Underhill, or other LE at Election time or Budget appropriation time.
Gotta give taxpayers some results.
Wait til an mcso deputy shoots & kills a black male..
Arrest walk of a white female would be a fine diversion.
I use polys at work for analysis and on occasion I have to take them, again- practice related requirement but I would tell anyone in the free world not to take one in a criminal matter without speaking to a lawyer. The ole immunity deal and the poly as a means to void an immunity agreement is a trick that has worked successfully in at least one case I have worked on as a LE resource. I resigned when I learned that was the plan- that was one slippery slope I wanted no part of. Turns out I was right. Dude got a new trial as a result.
B
@ September 21, 2016 at 8:29 pm
Oops…. I mistyped… it’s KYLE I, not Kyron I.
In regards to the sign in sign out I was a bit shocked in our district lake Oswego Portland area. They have a computer where you are supposed to it but based on my experience it’s very lax. Even for visitors-10% of the pto will sign in per school policy. Oh and because they don’t have AC they open classroom doors to eltbin fresh air. I read a lot of crime blogs but I won’t lie the opening of classroom doors still has me strongly considering pulling my kids and putting them in private despite moving here for the top school scores
So imo TH did not violate the mutual no contact order w/Kaine.
She said
1) I told him I was unhappy in the marriage and he was not a good listener.
(the divorce validates that)
2) he did not go to Skyline after the first day of K.
(dare I suggest he only did thendue to a competitive
spirit with the also present Desiree) this spare statement is a mere fact.
here you go Blink.
a second media soure re mcso/da joint statement:
http://www.kptv.com/story/33152384/deputies-confirm-weekend-search-off-hwy-30-was-tied-to-kyron-horman-investigation
Terri needs to “get” Mike and Rod are truly “joint.”
imo besties, and if Rod wants evidence, Mike will ensure his team finds it imo.
I am hearing it was not a joint statement but I will let you know. At any rate- first time in my career I have ever heard that phrase “open invitation” to speak to LE.
B
Truthplease says:
September 21, 2016 at 6:17 pm
As far as I know, PPS only started having “sign out” sheets in the offices of schools after Kyron disappeared..
I have spoken with parents who agree with that and some that say they had to sign a visitor sheet when picking up.
B
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I do not know about Skyline School, but I do know that PPS had sign in/out sheets in some, if not all, schools at every level as long ago as 1986. Visitors went to the main office, some schools had student attendance secretaries who may or may not have been in the main office. I wore school ID but even with that and being on official business, I still had to sign in and out of every school I visited, also as a parent from elementary on. Students who entered or left at other than designated times were expected to go through the office.
I don’t know that anyone in administration ever checked up on any principal to evaluate the success of the procedures. The fact that there were differences between schools became clear when it was said that the auto-dial system would no longer be optional for schools after 2010.
In 1986, my high school had seven fires caused by an arsonist (FBI had description) and a few copycats. Students went from laughing to anger at having their classes disrupted. I patrolled back halls of the 4-floor building with a small radio and wondered at night what I’d do if I ran into the arsonist. Fortunately, I never did.
However, the point here is that we really pushed the sign in/out and insisted teachers take their attendance books when they exited with their classes. Over and over, we said to the staff and students, what if a firefighter is hurt or dies trying to find and rescue someone who isn’t even at school! We have to account for everyone. (same with earthquakes)
Just because we don’t see someone following or enforcing the policies doesn’t mean the policies aren’t there. In some ways, we all fall short.
I started teaching in Kentucky and the money for each district was based on student attendance. Teachers didn’t leave for the month/year until their attendance book was correct – and you didn’t get paid. When I moved to Oregon, attendance monitoring seemed very loose compared to what I was used to. It was more enrollment-based and there were no penalties or records to match up. I hate to say money was more of an incentive (than the child’s well-being) to know where every child was at any given time, but . . .
I wondered why Soldier & her
less than 100 troopers were essentially Silent.
Then I saw Dubious Doc had 1K posts. that’s where her
sheeps went imo.
In a variety of legal documents, I can assure you there is zero doubt that Terri Horman was the last to see Kyron Horman.
B
Ragdoll says:
September 21, 2016 at 5:59 pm
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Blink, just verifying here. TMH was indeed the last person to see Kyron? Or did you leave out the *not* by accident?
NOT. typo on my part, I corrected afterword but thanks for verifying.
B
oh i see
1.4 k hits but only 8 comments on Phil’s Board.
rose says:
September 21, 2016 at 1:04 pm
on promo excerpt, Terri says Portland LE is “politicalky” adjusting and people want to keep their jobs.
Unfortunately, for kyron and herself, things are worse. Reese is the Chief who did not declare the
school a crime scene and take jurisdiction, which he absolutely was supposed to do by intergovernmental contract between the County, PPS, and PPB but left it to the le agency without detective resources. . So his no 1 coverup incentive is for his own self and PPB. And Marshman is his buddy.
As long as Reese has the sextet of Kafoury, Underhill, Barker, Fish, Saltzmann, and Leonard in his corner, he’ll coverup til the moon is blue. Kafoury and Krew don’t give a fig wrt kyron’s abduction compared to homelessness, housing, govt services, and the budget. And iirc Leonard was in a CC position of power in 2010 and has plenty to cover up re the 2010 misspent investigation monies, as does Underhill. There won’t be a political correction benefitting kyron imo.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/01/21/kyron-horman-missing-case-terri-horman-breaks-her-silence-in-people-magazine-interview/#comments
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I am bringing rose’s comment forward because IMO she’s on to something here. We have always wondered why PPB did not handle this case as they were contracted to and should have. Perhaps the steroid link was not between KH/Gym and MCSO, but actually between KH/Gym and PPB, so a bow-out was legally necessary for PPB? Just a thought.
Well, the episode brought me nothing new other than the fact that Kyron wanted to go and say Hi to his former teacher before they left the sci-fi meandering part. Macbeth apparently had Kyron in both kindergarten and first grade. Would love to hear TMH expand on his relationship with him, but doubt it will ever be heard. Only other thing was that TMH also visited a craft store on June 4. What else, if anything new, did you all get?
I think back to TP’s comment, when he said Kyron was off to see the “cool one” and wonder now if SM is the one who may have told Kyron about it. Could have been anyone, but obviously Kyron had not seen it himself, so **SOMEONE** told him about it. That’s ***IF*** TP’a recollection was accurate, and I have no reason to believe it was not.
I hope someone asks somebody abut the *cool electric one*.
Yes. As in, someone in Porter’s classroom, which he entered after parting with his step mom in the hall. The first bell rang when they were in MacBeths room for timeline purposes.
B
Blew my mind, too.
rose says:
September 21, 2016 at 7:18 pm
about 34:00 oh gosh bio dude jumps her bones
as it were the 25th before absconding with her baby girl the 26th.
imo he’s capable of anything.
Obviously I have known this for a year so my mind was blown long ago on this point, but more because there is more to that timeline – its even more bizarre. We cover this in the interview.
B
It also blew my mind that the SF was the day before!
As happens a lot with these interviews- being able to expand on a point is impossible. The Science Fair was on June 4th, however, the accompanying presentations that were SUPPOSED to occur during the Science Fair occurred during the school day on 6/3/10. Terri was not informed of this until she dropped Kyron off June 4th. If you recall Kyron’s bridge presentation, same thing- the only reason Terri was able to record that was that she happened to email Porter about it and got a whole 15 min notice or she would have missed it.
B