Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010. Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past, I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another. This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases. I am proud of that. I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.
Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom, Terri Horman. Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey. Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child. There are dozens of sources, collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.
Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did. I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping. Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode. When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her, I most certainly respected that. I still do.
While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure, I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth. There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions. Not what I signed on for. A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience. He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.
I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding. Feel free to discuss the show below.
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In looking at the Linkedin page of James Moulton we find that he completed his jr. and sr. years of HS on-line at Insight during 2011 & 2012 . Then off to the marines after serving a short time as an Assistant Scout Master. No mention of his merit badge ranking. Top two are Life and Eagle. Worked part time or full time in a legal firm his senior year of high school. Listed as Paralegal asssistant which is a fancy name for “go-for”
Made a good grade at his radio school and received an award. No mention of electronics school. The Naval school of electronics is one of the best in the service. Marines are trained there along with Naval personnel.
Hawaii Pacific University courses as a freshman and now attending Oregon State. Padded his skill set in the skills area of the page which is common for young people. At least he is trying.
Going for a computer science degree without any electronics or programming background is not going to be easy. That shortcoming is the reason for the MagPi kits originating in England when they found the entering freshmen arrived with far less skills than they needed.
Rose says:
May 28, 2017 at 7:50 pm
Blink said the Youngs did not own a Wii in 2010. Maybe they only played at Gamer Kaine’s so DY’s info is 2ndhand from Q.
Skylander Game didi not exist until 2011.
-snip
It was released worldwide in October 2011 (in Japan on July 12, 2013), being distributed by Toys “R” Us and published by Square Enix, and was released for the Wii, PlayStation 3, Nintendo 3DS, and Wii U.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylanders:_Spyro%27s_Adventure
O/T
If anyone is curious about the facial muscles and neck muscles required to play a brass musical instrument, go to Scared Monkeys and look at the photo of the soldier playing taps at Arlington. While there be sure to read Red’s great tribute to his uncle and others who are buried there.
Historical tid-bit: The land on which Arlington National Cemetary is located is that of Robert E. Lee, the Confederate General who was a graduate of West Point.
Here’s the updated poster if anyone is interested in printing it out, scroll down to his poster.
http://www.missingkids.org/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=usMapSearch&missState=OR
Just noting here that I don’t see those two kids listed as missing that we thought might possibly be related to RSE. Sorry, can’t remember their names, but have they been found?
That poster is strange, usually the age progression photos are the same size as the original photo, this one is real small. I was going to make a bigger one, but when I saved the image, and opened it up, I noticed that they have his very blue eyes…..brown. Weird.
Needs some work, IMHO.
I have been waiting for someone else to bring this up T.Ruth, thank you.
His stats are correct, but I do agree with you that his eye color on the image appears brown to hazel? More importantly, they look nothing like the brilliant blue peepers he has. A pretty important detail to say the least. At a loss up in here. Who approved this?
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What is the method of reproduction of the new aged photo? Is the one viewed a digital version or is it a print from a computer?
If it is a photo of a print, then the printer may have not contained blue in in sufficient quantity to print the true color. That happens with ink-jet type printers. Bad color is sometimes the fault of not testing and setting the color after a print cartridge change.
After viewing the enlargement of the aged photo, I think the eye color is the result of scanning an image into the missing child database. If the color is picked up wrong, then photo shop or some other similar program should be used to make the correction.
I see that the new entry has changed the glasses frames, but still used a frame that did not sit high on the face.
That is a very good point- I ASSUMED anyone would be using an original hi res file- it is possible the values equate to RGB (in the print world this is called red green blue) which will look gray-ish or flat in a scanned image. That said- it is a created image that someone with retouch skills should have caught and amended for accuracy.
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@TRuth. Meija, iirc.
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re “Who approved this?” Iirc in her speech, recorded on YouTube, DY said the parents have final approval. Based on KH’s absence from the rollout, despite leadership State Police and FBI attending, my guess is he played no role. The eyes are one example of, 7 years later, DY likely conflating her brothers and her own pics at that age with Kyron’s features at that age, in her mind.
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Like ATG, I too thank Blink for her masterly response. Wii was after my time and it was nice to learn its features and uses which appealed to Kyron. I was an avid “gamer” with son at the Mario and Luigi level, which was dual. His proficiency at a very young age led me erroneously to think him very bright, with nonverbal visual spatial skills. Quite often development in one affected congenitally goes another way. His testing neuropsych at age 6-7 said on retest (done for IEPs) at l0 that he’d thought 7 son could at least lay carpet (visually spatially gifted, tho expressive language was weak) but by age l0 he said it was clear visual-spatial abilities were impaired too, developmentally. I’d like to know where DY got “bright” from since he was the quietest in any group of kids, which goes to language.
I simply think it is unusual, but maybe not with Intel employees, that a father of two young children is an avid gamer, and that KH’s self identity as one must have had a huge impact on two teen boys (Q and J) and on Kyron. Even now it is a large part of Q’s self-identity, he says on social media. One notes in the obit father Neil was also a lover of computer gaming.
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JM’s LinkedIn indicated he will enroll in OSU in Fall 2017, so one expected he will separate from the military after 4 years. His awards seemed to stop in 2014; about the time he visited KH and had one downside aspect of enlisted man military culture featured in his online pictures?
what I saw was a strong identification with Neil, from military enlisting, to real est investing, to computer degree. Neil’s obit pictured him as a larger than life autodidact and bon vivant. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/seattletimes/obituary.aspx?pid=174775358 I find topher’s “picture” of his values and intrafamily behavior more likely and reliable. Its salient feature was autocrat. And TH depicted KH as having that same quality within the family. And, if JM has built his life choices on qualities and interests of Neil, then imo he is susceptible to male autocrats and autocratic environments. In profiling, and analogizing to his functional brother, one could extrapolate from that feature to Kyron’s probable vulnerability to a “take charge” male. And, I think that can be “read” in a young male by an older male predator who is shopping for a boy to take control of.
@ATG, Blink said that HS employer was his Scoutmaster. The man seemed like a wonderful influence. With JM’s apparent intended proximity to Portland, and mother in CA, one wonders how influential KH will chose to be in his future.
trial judge hearing the new media motion differs from last one.
imo maybe it’s in T’s best interests to have grandstanding fake
newsman there. Adam Richards will make DA look foolish.
And Newsman can’t distort.
ot just stumbled on a mag quote from Sen Ben Sasse which reflects my personal opinion of men making personal gaming a regular part of their household daily activities & fathering: “Adolescence is a gift but extended adolescence is a trap.” I read his twitter for his piano recital reviews. Also discovered Neogaf, apparently a UUUge gaming forum. a complex world.
Brilliant.
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“The grand prise for overtime in June 2010 goes to Sgt. Jan Kubic, who was paid $18,164.50 in total overtime compensation for the month,” http://www.victoriataft.com/mccain-kyron-kops-confident-yet-clueless-and-raking-in-the-ot-2/ enduring longtime partner of Sgt Krafve and still his partner. Kyron has been nothing but an mcso cash cow. I once that “bad advisors” meant family & friends. Now I think you meant DY’s mcso whisperers.
Let the June 2010 overtime reflect the “detectives” currently handling
Horman are the same deputies making investigation decisions
the first week and month of the abduction.
You can’t dispute that obvious conflict of interest issue- can one?
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my opinion of yr desire to publish TH’s interviews only if and when it will advance the investigation is look to classic social systems analysis: anything can move a system off its dime, and then there must be some force within a few weeks to lead to a higher level of finctioning. There is good reason not to publish before CA charges are settled. After that, imo one’s goal is to throw the investigators (tion) into disarray in hopes a more competent force emerges
Rose you have such a strong and solid perspective. Obvs I choose my commentary wisely (hopefully) on this issue- but it will surprise no one I felt pretty early on that the sum of my interviews (not just TMH) and diligence in writing an update was that it was occurring simultaneous to current efforts by MCSO to arrest TMH for something, anything. Terri is caught in the “cop death spiral” and in my view, until that is exhausted fully there is no advancing an investigation that is solely focused on her as a target- not at all on locating Kyron.
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I glanced at the flier BKH has up which contains all 3 photos. First one has bright blue eyes but arguably the “color” is attributable to a sharp light reflection from glasses. 2012′ seem hazel; 207, brown. DY might say those in her family darken over time. Have you asked the unbiased (inthis matter) Terri his eye color?
TRuth, Seems they are still missing.
Jamie Mejia and Ubaldo Sanchez-Mejia
http://www.forthelost.org/family/sanchez-mejia.html
http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/06/01/former-multnomah-county-sheriffs-lieutenant-files-federal-whistleblower-lawsuit/ This will be easy. Riddell will just depose and present Gates, Schultz, and others (audit researcher and Res Dir, mrs marshman) to attest to Staton’s behavior, working conditions, and who in County govt was informed, ie the Police Commissioner. Who on the County Comm had Police at that time?
I am surprised this did not settle. I am guessing they could not agree on an amount- OR there is something that went on that is unknown yet that refutes Ritchie’s claims- This Fed “issue” is pretty straightforward I have found and of course we have Staton’s removal and previous lawsuits against him and MCSO.
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I think Rod Underhill has the power to transfer the case to the State Police due to that financial conflict of interest of Kubic, Krafve, & ODonnell, at least in 2010, and its impact on investigatory decisions then and now. In the past when referring elements of mcso for State investigation, he jointly signed the referralwith the County Comm Chair. DA’s problem now may be the Chair seems to have, functionally, a crush on Reese so he can’t get her to collaborate in pulling the cash cow from him.
Rose- I think he may have the power to move the case (if conditions warranted for some reason) to another county agency, but to my knowledge he does not have the power to transfer it to a State agency unilaterally. Not without a DOJ investigated reason- and even then, I am not aware of a precedent for it that does not include agreement by some means from MCSO. Naturally, if Kyron is recovered in a different jurisdiction, that agency would assume jurisdiction with any agency partners (if appropriate) they may have.
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Ritchie’s initial witness list https://s3.amazonaws.com/wapopartners.com/wweek-wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/10113706/Ritchie-complaint.pdf
I still think about the 7 year old who went missing when I am in public, and think about Kyron when I see a little boy with short hair and glasses. Then as I look to study his features I realize Kyron is a teenager. I just don’t expect that anyone keeping Kyron against his will would keep him with the same glasses and same haircut, I mean wouldn’t they try to alter his appearance?
Kyron is getting old enough for independence and probably aging out of his captors demographics, so the circumstances he would have to be in are along the lines of Jaycee Dugard or Elizabeth Smart or Shawn Hornbeck or Castro’s victims in Cleveland.
Jaycee was kept in a backyard, and eventually helped run her captors printing business. There were missing posters, and she was still in California and people saw her and nobody recognized or reported her. Elizabeth was homeless in the woods and found in Utah the same state of her abduction. Shawn was living in an apartment still in Missouri and like Jaycee, people saw him. Castro’s victims were held prisoner in a house in the same city of their abduction, Cleveland, Ohio.
It got me thinking if anyone has ever been returned because of a missing person poster. And, could Kyron still be in Oregon?
Excellent question and researched post, erose. I am going to side with the importance of awareness and promotion of different orgs on this one that it is in the best interests as a whole to distribute mp flyers, updated info, etc.
I want to highlight that the agencies tasked with locating both the victims and the investigations failed these people miserably- and in the Smart and Hornbeck cases, if it were not for the FBI agents assigned, I doubt highly they would ever have been located.
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Free read of Elizabeth Smart’s book for abductees which she wrote in conjunction with the Dept.of Justice.
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/221965.pdf
TRuth, The Mejia-Sanchez children are NOT on the official Oregon missing site. Interesting.
http://www.missingkids.org/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=usMapSearch&missState=OR
Then there are the 7 mcso command staff county HR investigators interviewed and published notes of before Staton tesigned and HR ground to a halt & pulled the plug on theinvestigation of mcso’s workplace dysfunctional command culture. Riddell spoon feeds WW stories first, altho WW has published little govt news since Meeker stepped down as Publisher. Zusman seems more culture focused) –food, parties, events, avant guard players.
I agree as to where you are headed with that- and note it was Jacquiss.
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The cop death spiral will never be exhausted, and K’s abductor focused on, until Kubic, Krafve, and all members of their mcso unit are removed from the case and Chinese walled off. Apparently only the parents’ publically shaming mcso, could do that. And they will not, bcz they want the focus to continue on Terri to punish her for anything is exactly what both want. Do Desiree and sister still read and approve everything on Solduer’s FB site as one claimed? As on the eve of any Court blip, Soldier came out swinging at DeDe once again. Nothing discredits Desiree more. And the lovely handmade Kyron bench is now drowning in stuffed animals and trailer park plastic kitsch. If I as principal knew my eled kids saw that desecration of a peaceful natural site and beautiful bench made for sitting, I’d install cameras and charge the perpetrator with trespass and an RO to protect the children.
Just why? Commission another bench or item- maybe a beautiful solar light or something if one feels they need to leave “their” mark or influence. How about an endowment or scholarship in Kyron’s name?
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that’s rich. Would Desiree use her gofundme remainder to endow a scholarship, say at her U employer, in Kyron’s name. Or maybe at the community college restaurant cook training certificate program her other son attended?
@ erose says:
June 2, 2017 at 2:23 am
TRuth, The Mejia-Sanchez children are NOT on the official Oregon missing site. Interesting.”
Does this mean mcso actualky found a missing child?
I wonder if Riddell still wants to run for DA someday?
If he tries this, Maybe he’ll be able to highlight how Rod never blew the whistle publically on pervasive corruption. Some commenter on an O article in 2016 said only Gates was free of it and was demoted back under Staton. Listed examples of corruption: selling one’s dogs as K9s, running a business while on duty, I forget others. Riddell has settled his other cases for chump change. I hope this one goes to trial.
Agreed, but it will settle.
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@Blink. I didn’t read carefylly, but I think in early 2016 he filed notice of intent to file a tort case, but this is a Fed whistleblower case. Perhaps Riddell was trying to determine best jurisdiction and cause of action. How does an mcso worksite get to be a Federal whistleblower case?
Because its a violation of Federal law. MCSO is a public employer and Staton was therefore a public employee and policy maker under Multnomah County.
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one supposes the alleged retailation
was due to a report black inmates
civilrights were (statistically) violated?
“Staton is under investigation by the Oregon Department of Justice for those allegations.”
Didn’t the result say he committed no crime? http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/02/26/sheriff-dan-statons-former-executive-assistant-files-notice-of-intent-to-sue-staton/
Imo the timing could be related to Bilky Williams OR US Atty will soon be history and a Sessions approved replacement installed. Maybe some housecleaning, but at least no Dem coverup for Staton and mcso.
erose
Your list of people who abducted and kept the victims for years points out the majority of people in a neighborhood who have so little curiosity about what goes on around them. The sudden appearance of a youth or young child in a household should raise questions as to who they are and how they came to be there.
LE agencies are imperfect just like all of us are. We have people with good intelligence and those that operate at levels so low as to be useless except for traffic control. Sometimes an agency develops a culture that discourages learning and growth and no decision making unless it comes directly from the top. This often found in the business world as well.
All of the cases you mentioned existed because LE did not do their job or people did not pay attention and did not want to get involved or a combination. Then we have the deliberate misuse of power in order to punish or force conformation to a preconceived outcome as I think we have in Kyron’s case.
Blink, I agree with the awareness and promotion of posters, because sometimes that all we have, I just wonder if they have led to a rescue, and I ask that because of expectation of how the person would really look vs the depiction on the poster. Just as TRuth brought up the eye color, well that’s big, because anyone with suspicion would rule out someone on eye color alone, I know I would, but since Kyron wore glasses, for example, maybe SZ would have him in public with colored contacts. I know this is semantics for you and anyone who believes Kyron will most likely be a recovery, but I’m not sure I would recognize a teenage Kyron. It seems some of the noteworthy rescues are made by someone’s sense that things “aren’t right.”
No erose, its not semantics and I believe its a valuable inquiry. I can be wrong and to your point, I do believe that accuracy of the image is certainly an important issue as a best practice regardless of the case. You are really asking about results of the effort in the first place- and I can’t think of one I can tie to a poster created to include age progression OR that resolved a case that is 7 years and counting. Where are they displayed, for how long, what calls are generated and tracked? It’s a very long list of “I have no idea”.
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thru googling for the upshot of today’s PTC, I ended up aliting on Tamikosmom’s blog (formerly a SM thread). Never go there & skipped most but by golly Blink she cites you for various early-on Terri adjectives like skank. probably inthe moment adjs Terri would agree with…. unrelated to abduction imo. Imo she’s more unstable than Soldier, masquerading as an angel of light.
Yeah. No idea what to say about that except to say that I stopped peeing up a rope long ago. Once people have an emotional attachment bond with a theory that is only dwarfed by a need to be right I just thank them for their brand of advocacy as best I can. Its an echo chamber that reads like Yoda speak. It is. (lol)
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Rose
You have raised some very good points about the behaviors of children at home and at school. In the case of Kyron, we don’t know if he really was bright since we could not observe him. Not responding in class or being quiet in a group may have been caused by his insecurity created by the behavior of his bio parents. Mother shows little to no stability from what we have learned and father who is an alpha male who takes charge or tries to take charge wherever he is.
Game playing develops quick eye to hand responses. Does it add any real value to a child’s knowledge base? Perhaps. My guess that unless guided by a knowledgeable parent or other caring adult, is it is very little. I do know one thing that game playing does and that is to take away the need to get up and move that all children and teens need in order to develop strong and responsive bodies.
says a lot about mcso investigators illegal and racist behaviors and lying ways. idiot judge, too.
clearly an illegal stop and associated detention. an illegalsearch (car). & probably most courts would find the
work and home warrantless searches illegal as well. .If they treated Terri like this, lucky she wasn’t near a baseball bat; and Rudy probably experienced the similar threats and would say anything. Note Kubic’s involvement.
http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20FDCO%2020130130D33/RENDON%20v.%20COUNTY%20OF%20MULTNOMAH
interestingly, that elderly Pocatello ID Fed Judge retired from the bench
in Jan 2005, so what’s he doing hearing an impirtant case like this in 2013?
Judge emeritus Ancer Haggerty would’ve thrown the books at mcso.
Riddell better watch out for Garr King
being (the Emeritus) judge assigned to his Ritchie case.
ot
at a loss with no 12 am tweets to analyze, I listened at that hour to NPR’s Canadian broadcasting hostess interviewing an Australian legislator about the new law he pushed through relieving Australians on sex registries of their passports.
This is the background: http://newnigerianpolitics.com/2017/05/31/australia-plans-passport-ban-for-convicted-pedophiles/
He said he became a “lightening rod” for Australians’ pedophila stories during his stint as a Sydney newpaper editor or publisher who outed a Catholic priest’s pedophilia. He shares the belief it is incurable. He was told by a woman that people in bankruptcy loose Australian passports for 7 years, so why not convicted pedophiles, given the proximity of the SE Asian child sex trade. He investigated and learned probably 800 plus registered Australian SOs travel yearly, and about 320 of those explicitly for child rape excursions. So, he sponsored this law. Apparently there is quite the booming business in Thailand, Pnom Pehn (sp?), the Philippines, and so on.
I remember Indonesians traveled to SW China, Yunnan province, to consume prostitutes in the 90s.
It seems reasonable a driven and brutal SO such as SZ had traveled to SE Asia for child rape tourism. I wonder if the relentless, aggressive detectives of MCSO checked passport travels back say to 2005 of any male SZ suspects? or males in Horman’s steroid distribution and consumption circles?
” sam says:
July 2, 2015 at 4:08 am
@Rose says:
June 30, 2015 at 2:56 pm
What is SZ doing? We live in a highly mobile age.
Imo he had some exposure to Skyline area, but likely was from “away.”
Say Silicon Valley or other IT site like Seattle. Blink said he went to ground quickly.
Coukd’ve been as simple as having a prebooked flight at 3 pm out of Portland.
Maybe he volunteers with some of Gates’ work in Africa, or helps orphanages & schools in Nepal
like Rotan & other Intel employees. I expect he has resources, and travels.”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-228/
about BS, Computer Sci ATG, this guy has a great Intel job, just took apparently 9 years for an AA in community college and 6 more for the BS. https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeroten
Iboshi greets us on 6/3/17 with a special Special (nothing new).
https://www.google.com/amp/www.kgw.com/amp/news/local/kyron-horman/seven-year-anniversary-of-kyron-hormans-disappearance/445299347
He reminds me of Soldier. His aim?
imo he is striving fir escape to a major market thru mfged sensationalism.
Rose, I could not find anything on Kyron at your link, which def went to KGW and did not change, maybe it was removed?
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Thanks for the link Rose.
Did you notice what his background was? Music-jazz band. Just remembering the two year study done by IBM in the late 1950′s that was targeted to finding the discipline that had the best tools for learning computers. The study revealed that musicians scored the highest,followed by science majors, then math majors and others.
The new science of logic constructs required a mind that could visualize with strong memory skills. All of those are found in musicians. In fact, the early Greek schools and family development required and encouraged music skills. Music production uses both sides of the brain.
Many musicians are ambidextrous and capable of playing instruments requiring both hands. Nearly all the people involved in the early development of personal computers were musicians as well as engineers and scientists. Handing off the teaching of computers to the math department in schools because of the need for learning Boolean Algebra IMO was a mistake. It should have been a joint effort across what we now have tagged as STEM programs. I would like to see another M added to that program for music.
it comes up for me as a June 3 release.
But maybe it’s just my phone memory whatever kicking in.
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Desiree was never involved in public schools,
and Soldier’s capabilities speak for themselves.
Wrt their mtg Sunday on Skyline premises,
one wonders if they followed PPS rules
re use of school premises and applied in advance for
permussion for their mtg? One hopes there are no
authirized sports games going on by orgs who did
get permussion. Iirc one also has to
pay for janitorial time–to be there & to clean
up, esp since thus crew litters outside.
Interesting Desiree changed her press statement show from the gym to Skyline’s Bench. Maybe she’s given up on Kaine attention seeking now that he’s allegedly remarried. Gifted and feneroys benchsculptor might’ve known crazies would make it a New Fence for kitsch and messages to the Beyond. PPS is gonna have to move it indoors to their front hall.
Anyone else notice Soldier’s FB page is THE means of public communication, along with Greer’s Missing Kyron, about Desiree’s Event? Not advertised her $50,000 gofundme. These 3 ladies seem Quite a collaborative trio. No DY press releases or even paid ads. Gofundme $ seem suitable for paid ads of such events. But then Desiree woukd’ve had to apply to PPS for grounds event useage; couldn’t characterize as a spontaneous happening. .
feneroys = generous.
I’m worse than covfefe.
LOl.
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I’m gonna hazard a guess that in line with her recent OSP-FBI
Event presence, she has invited reps from mcso in addition to press like kyle .
wouldn’t it be a hoot if Balizan appeared? .l
#failedinvestigation, on his watch.
Doubtful Rose. Underhill just passed on a public info request- I am pretty sure that means nobody will be making an appearance of the LE variety.
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In her shoes, even adled by grief, I would NOT advertise my media event thru crazies, whether
the crazies are beat thebushes for $ allies or not.
I’d have my attorney send a press release to every media outlet.
And I’d apply to use and get permission from PPS in writing for June 4.
PPS coukd not refuse it. I still bet some mcso are not talking but are
attendees in the audience. imo DY expects that of them.
https://www.smore.com/ammqu-upcoming-events-may-june-2017
Skyline events
7 Years Later…
http://katu.com/news/local/7-years-later-kyron-horman-still-missing
Here is the cache page for KGW
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wfmJv8mLOKIJ:www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/seven-year-anniversary-of-kyron-hormans-disappearance/445299347+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Thank you erose.
Rose was correct with her link, ( I think lol) but what it looks like is that KGW simply retitled their old piece and reposted it at 5am this morning, according to the timestamp. So… it does appear it was pulled from the site (I did search it on their site several times yesterday and archived those results) and re published. Maybe a minor issue for some, but from an SPJ standpoint, that is a very big no no without an editorial note- as in, “originally published on xxxxxx, republished to mark the June 4th anniversary, etc. ”
On the Katu link- where DY is quoted as saying Terri has not been named a suspect as a technicality but is a definite person of interest- You would think making a statement like that would warrant the reporter seeking confirmation of that claim from MCSO or even Terri’s lawyers- which is proper. For anyone reading here that is not aware- declaring someone a person of interest is a media term, it is not a LEA term or a legal term in any form. For that matter, it can be interchanged with calling someone an interesting person as it relates to having any weight or bearing on any potentially criminal matter. Not that I would expect any reporter in that jurisdiction to actually ask what should have been the qualifying question- a person of interest in what alleged crime if you know? Seems like an obvious and fair question, does it not?
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Rose, LOL, and no one splashed it across the news? When I think back to three children having gone missing in the same city with in weeks of each other, I cannot believe no one did a story about that, even though it was under differing circumstance. Remember Elsie had that custodial warrant.
Rose says:
June 2, 2017 at 9:40 am
@ erose says:
June 2, 2017 at 2:23 am
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Does this mean mcso actualky found a missing child?
Sadly, as I am moderating this morning I am struck at the common theme across a variety of cases and coverage- a completely inadequate (at best) system to protect our most vulnerable children. As if it isn’t heartbreaking enough these kids “in the system” seem to be sitting ducks to a variety of possible negative outcomes they are treated like “found money” until something very public shines a light. From my own backyard (Grace Parker), the juvenile det system built by judges an hour away, The Second Mile- there are egregious examples of exploitation or worse that do not seem to serve as a tipping point (shamefully it has to come to that term) for swift oversight and change.
I was just working in a jurisdiction where the entire LE staff tasked with investigating child crime (for CPS purposes) was actually suspended and removed from their cases (unrelated matter). This is a jurisdiction that currently has over 25 missing juveniles as well. In contrast- as one example, you have an educational para aid who openly complains about a toileting policy involving challenged kids of the opposite sex and is threatened with firing, who then complies, and a mostly non-communicative child he is assigned to allegedly accuses him of something she never actually could and CPS keeps him from his own newborn after he is charged and ultimately acquitted. I don’t know the answer but I do think it is a fair statement to say the system is very broken and kids are paying the price.
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