CAYLEE/CASEY ANTHONY CASE: JOSE BAEZ ENTERS LYONS DEN WITH DEATH PENALTY ATTORNEY ANDREA LYON
Orlando, FL– Appearing in court today, in advance of an approved pro hac vice motion, Casey Anthony’s lead defense counsel Jose Baez introduced the latest addition to the Baez Bevy of Barristers: Andrea Lyon. Baez took the opportunity to introduce Ms. Lyon in the form of a impromptu commercial, as pointed out by Prosecuting attorney Jeff Ashton.
Lyon is an associate Dean for Clinical programs and Professor at DePaul University School of Law. From her profile, Ms. Lyon claims to have defended over 30 potential capital cases at the trial level, and of those 30, 19 through the penalty phase, winning all 19.
(Editors Note: If a case is in the penalty phase, wouldn’t the term “winning” be an oxymoron? Perhaps a more succinct explanation means “19 of her convicted clients will not fry.” Does that mean she tossed the other 11 losers right after conviction because she knew she had no prayer of saving their hides?)
Baez delivered a 16 page amendment last night following court filing hours and expected the media, who has not as of yet been served, to appear and argue their request for the video of Casey Anthony in the prison infirmary following the news that remains of a small child had been found a few blocks from the Anthony home. Judge Strickland ruled they would have 7 days to intervene and he will hear their arguments to Baez amended motion late next week if requested. Counsel for the county objected several times as to specific incidents contained therein, and deposition transcripts they have not yet received.
Next up, attorneys for Roy Kronk, Jesse Grund and Amy Huzienga argued against the outstanding duces tecum motions surrounding their clients phone and text communication records as an invasion of privacy.
Collectively, a strong case presenting the lack of a good faith basis and materiality for the motion in the first place was argued by all.
Baez responded by alleging Jesse Grund, “for all intents and purposes,” was a suspect in this case who took a polygraph; the good faith basis has been established by the state in available discovery. He went on to say the OCSO should have requested this information from Roy Kronk; at which time Judge Strickland interrupted and informed him he was “straying” and that he did not wish to hear what “they” may have done wrong, but only what the defense good faith basis entails.
Motion stayed pending attorney agreement, motion granted for non- present parties.
Enter Stage Left; Macaluso. I admit it, this is what I was waiting for. As a professional, I feel compelled to acknowledge I was not disappointed. I am on record from the announcement of his potential involvement on the defense team I felt he was the strongest chance Casey Anthony has at an actual defense strategy. Still do. His current embroilment in millions of dollars in civil litigation and looming California Bar charges notwithstanding. He is engaging, charismatic, said “um” the least and bar none had the coolest watch.
(editors note: I couldn’t get a tight enough shot but I’m pretty sure it was the un-affordable to most, Big Bang model Hubolt. Sweet.)
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you can’t beat a nice watch. so blink, you like a big humbolt? lol just kidding, but i’m gonna call it that from now on.
Doesn’t hurt.
LMAO
B
hubolt…either way, both sound like the name of a tool.
Ran across this potential NUCLEAR BOMBSHELL last night?! Check it out. If true this is WAY TOO MUCH!
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/sh…=354047&page=6
Start at message #211
Link did not work noonie
B
OMG U2…….tanks….I needed dat. For me, it’s strictly Movado.
Were you able to see this Blink?
Are you a WS member?
No Noonie, it is the National Enquirer of the Web, except now you can pay additionally to not see ads. How that benefits victims I have not been able to figure out.
B
Check this then. That page was removed, but it’s thread is shown on Pg. 21 of Motion Hearing 2009-05-28 on Websleuths. That is where i got it. You gotta read it. I’ll check back tomorrow. Gotta get up early.
Try this link - #211
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13142837#post13142837
Turbo- what do you think about it’s legitimacy?
B
The page is still there. The link is bad. Try this one. It’s post #211
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=354047&page=6
If it’s true, it’s strange that he would post it on the internet.
I think if that were true, the State would be pressing harder to get it out there, and they are not. This is a media request. As far as the Leonard comment that he knew Casey would never speak, that is a bold face lie. Leonard is alot of things, but imo, he did go down there with the right intent. Did he get star struck after the fact? Absolutely.
I have had very long conversations with LP, and Tony P and I are tight. I can tell you unequivocally from his perspective they went to Fla to find Caylee, and did NOT think she was deceased until they met Casey. Then, they knew.
B
hey, i found that,google boards.insessiontrials.com click on caylee anthony,2,murder then click on wednessday may 27 2009 , click page six then scroll to comment 211 .its about baez doin kc, and the video looks as if his hand is on her butt,hmmm, maybe blink could tell ifits legit ,i ve no idea . so the trial will not start oct ,she’ll file motions in coupla months,if successful,what dp is off and she’s off the case?
if andrea lyon is unsuccessful in her challenge means to say…so those motion hearings and the outcome will be the tell all ,if the sunshine doesnt scoop it.
….. “over 30 potential capital cases at the trial level, and of those 30, 19 through the penalty phase, winning all 19.”
Blink,
Maybe the others ended up not being capital murder cases, or were pleaded out?
She (Lyon) said, (paraphrasing, too lazy to go back & listen),” BLAH BLAH BLAH, Casey is innocent”. She did not say, “Not guilty”. Interesting, because I believe that you have to present a case that has some cohesion from the guilt/innocent phase to the death penalty phase. I could not be a juror in a potential death penalty punishment trial, but putting that aside, if found guilty , how do you mitigate with mental issues, etc, in the punishment phase, if you had prefaced with a defense of innocence and completely sane? Doesn’t the entire case have to demonstrate an underlying mental issue from beginning to end? Or is she going to try to show all the beautiful contributions that Casey made to society before the death of Caylee? Perhaps, they will bring in some kind of mental defect to explain not contacting authorities? I can’t imagine that a person of her stature will not be intricately involved in the guilt/innocence portion. I wonder how that will go over with Baez, who seemed, in the past, not willing to relinquish any control. Do you think she will stick with the defense that has been floated around by Baez, or a completely new theory? Your thoughts?
Yes, they will abandon the Nanny issue right before George, Cindy, and Lee are compelled to testify.
B
Baez filing the amendment late and after hours obviously a calculated attempt to stall arguments with the media (about releasing the video). I know most feel he is inept, but I don’t believe the rest of the team would tolerate any real Bozo behavior (nor Casey for that matter). And now, of course, I REALLY want to see that video….
I think your mostly right, I think it was calculated, but I think he expected the judge to rule without giving the media the opportunity to be heard. Guys- I’ll be honest, this video is not going to be seen at trial. No way.
B
I agree Blink, the video will not be seen at trial. The damage is already done though. Everyone has read the transcripts of what Casey’s reaction was..and that will more then likely stay. No need to see the visual now that you can visualize this in your mind..and that will hold true for jurors.
I think Lyons will try to throw Cindy and George and Lee under the bus. She will try to show that poor Casey lead an abused life, she is damaged goods and not mentally healthy….ie..she just couldn’t help herself. Cry me a river.
However, I don’t think Lyons will stay unless she makes nice with Casey and Baez…Casey still calls the shots on who her counsel is..and if there is any infighting and Lyons doesn’t come around to Baez and Casey’s thinking…well she can kiss this gig goodbye.
Nice Lyons gets all this free publicity for her new book coming out in December.
Anybody remember Caylee anylonger..she is being sanitized from this case.
I was thinking that exact same thing yesterday my dear DD- Caylee Anthony was killed at 34 months old.
I noticed Cindy was not sporting her 50 zillion charms, badges and bracelets yesterday in her honor, and she has foregon the grinch color. These people will end up getting exactly what they deserve, of that I’m sure, but Caylee did not and that’s why I , like most of you, will not leave her as some sort of ATM for these jackyls.
B
Andrea Lyon told Casey her odds on beating the rap. Did you notice how Casey could not stop touching her hair? Her goose is cooked. Beg for a plea deal.
“they will abandon the Nanny issue right before George, Cindy, and Lee are compelled to testify.” B
Interesting. But won’t the Anthonys have to testify before the defense has its turn?
The prosecution will, no doubt, present the “nanny abduction story” and have the Anthonys take the stand, or if not, at least show video of their (and Casey’s) police interviews, while eliciting testimony from investigators/detectives. I can’t imagine that they (defense) can completely wriggle out of it.
I mean they will withdraw the countersuit, and then Conway will file that their testimony will prejudice a jury.
B
“I mean they will withdraw the countersuit, and then Conway will file that their testimony will prejudice a jury.
B”
They are still screwed. Even if the civil testimony can’t be used. Casey, herself, told this tale to detectives, and friends via text messages. It’s coming in, in spite of what happens to the other Anthony’s testimony (from criminal/civil).
Maybe Lyon will get her (Casey) off with Ineffective Assistance Of Counsel? Would she dare?
Yes, it will come in, but I dont believe it will get that far. i think she will stip to the lies, personally.
B
I don’t understand how these attorney’s can work with Baez and not see what an utter incompetent idiot he is! I know why Casey keeps him on, she is “in love!” If Ms. Lyon were truly a great DP attorney, she will Baez to sit down and STFU!
The bar may do it for her.
B
Blink,
Your lips to God’s ears!
“Yes, it will come in, but I dont believe it will get that far. i think she will stip to the lies, personally.
B”
WHOAH! You think Casey will take the stand, or someone will have her cop to it in their opening statements? Who do they get to explain, through testimony, why she would lie about this, if not Casey, Cindy & George? They have to demonstrate and prove why she would lie. (sorry I’m writing so often)
No, by “stipulating” she would not have to take the stand, I think they will blame the A’s and that she covered up for them all along, like I said from the beginning.
B
This whole case is getting old….WAY OLD..Is she gets away with this, I will lose all faith in the system……To see her even walking into a court room smiling and acting like nothing is going on it sick..she has NO REMORSE and seems not to have a care in the world. All the while her little girl’s ashes are god knows where. i heard last night on nancy Grace that Casey is threatening ti off herself if she truly does get the death penalty….I saw hand her some shoe laces NOW and lets call it a day…Sorry…..thats how I feel about this whole JOKE OF A TRIAL…….The people of Flordia are going to be paying a lot of money for this chicks legal costs and what? She sits in her cell eatting her treats and actually seems to be enjoying life…..Sorry Blink….this whole sham called a trial sucks……..
Blink, who is PAYING for this defense? The Anthony’s don’t have the kind of money needed. Is it advances for movie rights and book deals? Who is actually accepting these funds, if that’s the case? And who is paying it?
I agree with you about Leonard Padilla. He may be an “original” but he went to Florida to help find the beautiful, missing Caylee. His motives were pure, imho. I’m sure he was heartbroken when he had to accept she’d been murdered by her own mother.
Don’t know why he has such a hard-on for Cindy Anthony, though. I realize the woman is a manipulative bitch and she’s about as unpleasant as they come when she’s not in control. But she’s never murdered anyone, let alone her own baby. I think she tried to do right by her family, but Cindy has her own issues & shortcomings. Who among us doesn’t?
It has to be harder than anything I’ve ever faced (including the death of my first husband) to have your granddaughter murdered by your own daughter. I think I would fight for justice for my granddaughter, and my daughter be damned, if I found myself in her shoes, but one never knows for sure. Publicly, the Anthony’s are supporting Casey, but privately they have to know she killed Caylee. What an awful position to be placed in.
Speaking of the Bar, have you heard anything else about the Bar’s investigation into Baez?
Yes, an investigator has been assigned and it is going before a grievance committee
B
all of that yes but, first shes says she doesnt think fla. is LEGALLY RIGHT in asking for the death penalty. ARE THEY? if state gets past that,then she’ll the challenge the evidence that calls for death penalty,there’s the tell all,if state proves their evidence is worthy of dp, theyve made the heavy part of the case ,the case (if she doesnt plead out by then)will then be specific about MURDER no other options right?
Blink..what is your theory as to what truly happened. Do you think anyone else knew the real truth this whole time?? You have probably already stated this but i would like to know what you truly believe…thanks
Too long for here, I will do a piece on this next week. It’s time.
B
I will def keep an eye out for that!! Thanks for all the hard work you do…
wow ,blink that is going to be very interesting if she blames g&c and says she was covering for them ,but still why wait for trial for that ,(hate to say it but i could almost believe it ,will have to see more evidence)i do think that its possible casey didnt (and still doesnt) want cindy to bury her child so they were playing cat and mouse with the body
for them to try to claim accident THAT would have to be a plea bargain i would think ,shes charged with lying to the police,if they wanted to claim accident wouldnt it HAVE to be a plea?
I can’t believe George or Cindy Anthony had anything to do with the death of Caylee or hiding her body. As horrible parents they are and were to Casey, they loved their grandchild and tried to protect her.
I think Cindy lost her temper and patience with Casey for her preying upon her grandparents in the nursing home, stealing checks and money from them. When you think about it, it’s absolutely disgusting to be victimizing elderly loved ones who are struggling just to survive. Casey’s preying upon them had to have enraged Cindy, rightfully so.
Who knows how many times George and Cindy were victimized by Casey’s stealing & lying, as well. There’s a limit to how much anyone can take before you just lose it.
I don’t think Cindy or George, in their wildest imaginations, ever thought their granddaughter was in danger of being killed by Casey. They would have taken steps to get custody of Caylee (not just threaten to do it) and gotten a restraining order against Casey. All Caylee ever was to Casey was a manipulative tool to be used for her own purposes. She did not love that child, she simply found her useful, perhaps occasionally amusing, but mostly a burden.
In a vindictive rage of her own, Casey killed her child in the ultimate act of revenge against her mother. Casey is a monster who should have a bullet put between the eyes. She’s evil.
“I think they will blame the A’s and that she covered up for them all along, like I said from the beginning.
B”
So much for the dream of a nonprofit organization, after trial. NO ONE will donate money when suspicions of foul play or possibly the murder of one’s grandchild are cast toward the Anthonys. But then I guess everyone could go to plan B, books or movie deals. What a mess! Do you think that they are willing to ‘hang themselves” so to speak? Or will Casey lose their support, if this defense arises, and they will start singing?
I think Lyons really believes that she can get Casey acquitted!! How on earth is that possible with all the evidence against her??
Blink, I thought they were going to blame Jesse Grund…or maybe Kronk.
This case is going to get more and more confusing as time goes on. “Big Bertha” is going to really shake things up! SHE IS SCARY! I don’t think the jury will like her….not one bit.
Precious little Caylee seems to have been forgotten…except for people like us here, and all over America. We love her and will never, ever forget her! May God rest her precious soul.
Gimme a few days, I ‘ll connect her with Madoff and it will be buh bye..
(kidding she could totally take me limb from limb)
B
Blink: Can hardly wait to read your article next week!! Just have to say it again, thank you so much for all the work you do here! You are, quiet simply, THE BEST. You are so appreciated by SO MANY people. YOU ARE TERRIFIC!
Have any of you had a chance to read Jose’s amended motion on the video? The only actual law I saw pointed to was that the jail had violated the 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th amendments by video taping her reaction.
Now I am no lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, but a quick Google search tells me that those amendments address the following:
*Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure
*Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings
*Amendment 6 - Right to Speedy Trial, Confrontation of Witnesses
*Amendment 7 - Trial by Jury in Civil Cases
His whole motion goes on for pages and pages talking about that Richard and Uncer think that letting Casey see the TV was cruel. So why in the world did he not site this one and not reference the others at all:
*Amendment 8 - Cruel and Unusual Punishment
Another one of my favorites is on Page 13:
He goes on to say that the one sided release of the interviews of Dets. Graves and Casper were misleading b/c they stated that during their interview w/Uncer she said that Casey “collapsed in the chair”. He goes on to say that Uncer did not say that she collapsed but rather that she just sat down. Then the brilliant attorney that he is decided to reference the Uncer transcipt he got this from:
Q: Then you say she walked into the medical clinic and immediately looked at the TV, which is on Channel 9-
A: Correct
Q: -and collapsed in the chair, correct?
A: Yes
Q: Did you put her in the chair or did she collapse in the chair?
A: She sat in it herself. She kind of just collapsed for lack of a better word. She sort of fell by herself into it. I didn’t physically place her in a chair.
Q: She just sat down, correct?
A: Yes
Now from reading the portion of the transcript that he copied right into his motion. How could be say that Uncer never said she collapsed in chair?
Does he not proofread this stuff before he sends in it? No wonder Ashton, can’t help but sit at the Prosecution table with a big grin on his face.
national enquirer of the web. giggles…i’ve lurked in there and apparently if your name (no not YOUR name, Blink on Crime) is even mentioned, ya get the boot. be very weary of those who cannot handle an honest confrontation.
Correct, considering it professes to be a victims advocate site. On the bright side you can pay money not to see ads.
MMMUUHHHAAA
B
i love a site where i have to pay not to watch an ad. makes me feel like they’re maken’ money! Whoo Hooo. yuck, yuck, and nasty
Blink: Casey TOTALLY ignored George and Cindy in court…she didn’t even turn her head to acknowledge them! She knew they were there, and so did the attys. I think YOU ARE RIGHT…she is getting ready to throw them under the big, bad, bus! That, of course, will crush them, and then make them ANGRY AS HELL! Then, COMES THE FIREWORKS! I really think alot is going to be hitting the fan…HUMBOLT, the Mental Wrestler, is probably behind this…win at all cost! CINDY will be like a woman on fire…I mean she will be DANGEROUS if this happens, and I think that’s where this is heading.
HUMBOLT just may be lighting a firecracker that is really a BOMB! (named Cindy)
(The BIG BOLT would probably love it…sell more books!)
However,she doesn’t know “the other side of Cindy…the one that chokes people, and goes koo koo when being deposed! This trial is going to be like the WILD WILD WEST ….imagine HUMBOLT riding her donkey outta Dodge!! (Heaven help the Donkey! She would need a Clydesdale!!) clippidy clopping alooong… _________________________________________________________________________
So eager to read your article about what you think really happened!
All true, but I still say this never makes it to trial.
B
How ’bout doing a story on who Andrea Lyon REALLY is?
She (knowingly) let an innocent Man Rot in Prison for 26 Years
Andrea Lyon is NO ANGEL!
Andrea Lyon Allowed an Innocent Man to Rot in Prison for 26 years!
http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/hottype/080131/
His name was Alton Logan,
60 Minutes did a story on him last year.
http://depaullaw.typepad.com/library/2008/03/60-minutes-segm.html
WA! I have missed you friend. I shall have a look-see
B
wow - good posting info.. Is it true that Casey’s reacted to the news of finding a child’s body before they even identified her as Caylee by DNA? I could have sworn I read that somewhere & maybe that is why they want video of reaction to the news suppressed?
Blink, can you get the scoop on when Lyon got to town, and if she had a meeting with George and Cindy prior to the hearing? They were in a new and different state of emotion (and physical appearance, as well) than ever before, and I wonder if Lyon had already met with them and told them in no uncertain terms how things were going to be handled from this point on, including her expectations of them. Maybe cease and desist on the public appearances, for one thing.
She has NOT met the A’s.
B
It’s quite an awful commentary on what Ms Lyons is
all about. IMO, The public needs to know how she is
so sadly lacking in the morals department.
O agreed, the relationship with Ryan, the predesessor to Blago, is HUGE
B
Thanks, Blink. There’s one theory I can discard. Cindy and George were very obviously more stressed out, worn out, and upset than usual. What gives?
They know what’s coming.
B
Meaning what? The talk that hasn’t happened yet? The complete excavation of their family history, which will then be exposed to the world in the penalty phase? Or the reality that they have ignored for the past 10 months?
I am going to piece on my theory of things to come next week.
B
I’m working on my patience, but it’s not going so well. LOL
HA.. I was born on that planet,, lol
B
I don’t think the Anthony’s are so innocent…
Who did all the replacements? The bedding, the laundry bag, the book and the toys? I think Casey admitted what she had done and they laid her to rest. Buried, not dumped, in a shallow grave that became unearthed by the storm. Why, else, would they make such a fuss about a body search? They wanted tips, because, they had already moved their agenda from Caylee to Casey… tips create doubt.
Lucky for us, Caylee was found!
Not lucky, she was on God’s time. My friend from Orlando told me that when I was distraught one day over this case.
He was right. Sometimes, that’s the way it is. No doubt, baby girl will be heard, regardless of the vultures that share her surname.
B
Agreed?
Absolutely, agreed, Blink!
Thanks.
yes,blink, have to laugh at the (horror film)visuals the thought brings, caylee spirit causes a leg bone to stick out,i she was buried (would like to know for sure),not sure the storm un earthed her though,scoop you bring up a speculation i’ll save for holloween,”why else would they make such a fuss about a body search?”,kiomarie,luv yuri, when in her interview ,she says the shovel made her call detectives.i can only find one police interview with her there most be more.
HEY BLINK…I NOTICED MANY PEOPLE COMMENTED ABOUT CASEY TOTALLY INGNORING SINDY AND GEORGINA…CASEY WOULD NOT EVEN LOOK AT THEM AND THEY SEEMED DEVASTATED….S
Q: AREN’T SINDY AND GEORGE ASSISTING IN THE DEFENSE? OR , IS IT TRUE THAT SINDY HATES BAEZ?..HAS CASEY JUST BLOWN HER PARENTS OFF AND TOLD THEM TO F.O.A.D AND THAT IS THE END OF THEIR TWISTED RELATIONSHIP??
Q: IF THE DEFENSE DOES TRY TO BLAME IT ON SINDY AND GEORGINA, WILL THAT BE WITH THEIR WILLING COOPERATION?
Q: CAN ANDY LYONS, AS FIRST CHAIR, GET BOZO BAEZ OFF THE CASE.?..BOZO IS INCOMPETENT.. WHY WOULD ANDY LYONS PARTICIAPTE IN ALLOWING BOZO BAEZ TO PRETEND TO BE FIRST CHAIR AND “LEAD THE TEAM”?
THANKS J
P.S…OF COURSE THE EVIL ANTHONY’S GOT ONE OF THEIR THUGS TO YANK DOWN THE MEMORIAL…I HOPE THE LOCAL ORLANDOIANS PUT ONE RIGHT BACK UP AGAIN…THE ANTHONY’S ACT LIKE CAYLEE NEVER EVEN EXISTED; IT IS SO SAD….THEY DID NOT DESESRVE HER….
ok Blink, now ya got me wondering. with regards to your comment to post 38. do ya mean the vid or do ya mean the case? ’cause i have a feeling that this won’t go to trial. as much as i would love to watch it on court tv (well, whatever it’s called now), i have a feeling that when the money starts to dry up from pics, video, maybe a book in the deal(?), they’ll (casey’s defense) give her the heads up on the fact that they don’t have a chance. then its time to change her plea and throw her to the mercy of the court. as long as she’s not convicted she can still rake in the dough yo.
oh blink,
i have been reading past posts and its starting to sound like a bad movie.
i’m the real zanny…NO i’m the real zanny..NO I’M the real zanny…
i’ve posted this elsewhere but i’ll put it out here…i aint scard..
i think g&c knew what was up and when casey went to jail the first time, thats when they started. every time they go on camera (in any situation) they profess their love for casey, and yet, they say something that screws it up for her. i don’t think its denial. i think its the manipulation that they use on each other. i think that every time g&c go in front of a camera they know its a nail in casey’s coffin. but they do it in such a twisted manner that they can look her in the eye and say hey “we did every thing we could, we went to EVERYONE, we even LIED for you”, and ya know what ……they did.
REMEMBER…mom, i just saw your cameo..oh, witch one? casey was pissed at cindy for that, and cindy knew it. it hasn’t stopped her (cindy) from goin’ there.
Jailhouse vids….
casey always with “if the media, because of the media…etc yada
cindy was the one to go to the media, as well as the first to contact le.
its a nasty game of who made who with each other..
Not to put a plug into WS…but I don’t know that I agree it is “the National Enquirer of the Web” (ouch, that hurt). I basically only post there as I have found a few folks I share a bond with and a common desire for intellectual pursuit.
But I digress.
I am curious as to your opinions regarding the “zenaida” website that was found at least as far back as January of this year. Could this have been a site KC created to “prove” to momma that ZFG existed? I have torn apart the source code for this site and believe it to be genuine. Info on the site was forwarded to OCSO in late February. Is it no coincidence the death penalty was placed back on the table less than two months later?
Link to website:
http://www.myspace.com/389838213
Discussion:
http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3806663&postcount=1100
JWG- I have several very close friends I met through WS. As I have followed your work and that of those you speak as having bonded with, I can say it is superb. However, as a whole, I stand by my comments. For instance, notice how I’m ok with you coming here and rendering a difference of opinion , and I will post it and respect it. Links to this site there are banned. Try asking *why* openly, you will be banned just like everyone else has been, and your post concerning same deleted. How does that nonsense advocate victims in any way? Professional jealousy has no place in advocacy, nor does allowing members to discuss subject matter that nobody pays attention to and than when they wake up as the car is careening off the road, they delete it all and pretend nothing happened. You know there is a hundred threads over there started and maintained by my work, although no references to it are allowed? You think there might be something more than meets the eye over there?
That said, keep up the great work. If I’m not mistaken you coined the phrase “frightened simians”, hilarious.
I agree the site appears to be genuine, but I dont think Casey built it, I think it was Lee. I also can tell you the defense is pretty much going to try to pin that on Tracy M, and they will fail. She never touched the computer in the Anthony home, she is a smart lady. The DP went back on the table for 2 major reasons, imo, 1. Casey’s latents were found on the duct tape around sweet Caylee’s skull. 2. The soil samples taken from the area of the playhouse will contain evidence of decomp and Caylee’s DNA. Recall the DP was taken off the table because they had no “body” at the time, but got a GJ indictment for Murder 1 in 30 minutes. The aggravating factor was not present until now.
B
oh, to all those who say kiomarie said the area behind the school(so the argument being thats not where caylee was found)well there is a sentence in her interview (while they are standing behind the school, she says “and an area ACROSS THE STREET”
Blink…OK, got it (understood).
Regarding the site, it could not be Lee. It was created June 16. I have researched myspace hacks for two (boring) months now and the creation date cannot be hacked in the page source code. The pages are created on demand on the server side each time a client calls for them, and the requisite information is dumped into the page at that time. There is no way for a myspace user to do anything more than hide the display of that information on the client computer, but it will always be squirreled away in the page source.
I thought latents were not found on the duct tape?
(P.S. - yes, I coined the phrase “frightened simians” to allow me to reference the website I needed to. As I said, I understand what you are saying.)
Why does June 16 mean it could not be Lee? I agree it very well may have been Casey, but if our only information is that because we are assuming he did not have knowledge, I dont think that excludes him per se- do you have the IP connected to the laptop? I have it if you want it.
Latents of George, Cindy, and Lee were not found on the duct tape. It has not been disclosed publicly as to whether or not Casey’s have. I was told by a source they were, and I believe it.
OCSO had the info on the ZG myspace very early on, the tie-in to Casey (or whomever was on her laptop) was discovered through a subpoena on that site, and confirmed from the unallocated sections of the laptop forensic report. I hope you blasted all those that thumped you and I for referencing that data on 6/16, we were right!!
Lastly, did you watch Annie Downing’s depo? Teehee.
Can I email you at this address?
B
HEY BLINK..BUT, IT IS NOT NICE TO KEEP SECRETS…
SO, WHAT IS THE FINAL STRORY ON THE “TRAFFIC TICKET” THAT M AND MA DID NOT GO INTO DETAIL DURING ANNIES DEPOSITION?…….
SO, DOES BOZO KNOW ABOUT THE LATENT PRINT AND PLAYHOUSE SOIL SAMPLES?…(IE WHERE THERE ALREADY RELEASED TO BOZO BUT HELD BACK FROM THE PUBLIC–OR HAVE THEY NOT BEEN RELEASED AT ALL TO DATE?..)
PRETTY PLEASE..THANKS J
re: zg22 traffic ticket, wouldnt le have tried to locate this zg regardless of whether she’s actually casey or not ,since she seemingly disappeared when this case went public
yes
B
Casey’s body language towards Baez is NOT favorable these past few court appearances. She’s much more favorable towards the female atty’s (Boden and Lyons). She leans in towards them and smiles,laughs,bats her eyelashes at them. This to me is very apparent. Anyone else??? Could she already be thinking about throwing Baez under the bus for something unethical?
No, she has been told there are rumors those 2 are “involved” so she has been admonished to act accordingly.
B
Blink:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember Tim Miller being allowed to view the remains. My assumptions of a burial are based upon my own feelings and imo were verified by his statements.
Can’t wait for your article.
Love your site…
Keep it coming!
NO, Tim Miller did not view Caylee’s remains. Absolutely, positively did not. I know because I was on the phone with him, he saw the area after that portion of the scene had been cleared and saw the “depressed” area where the bag was found.
B
felicity:”i think lyons thinks she can get casey aguitted”,i havent seen or heard any statistics or boasts,of lyons clients walking free after facing the dp, i think its more a bad sign ,they had to go so far as to add lyons.
JWG,do you know if the search dates for 100th episode of one tree hill,neck breaking,how to make chloroform,are actually correct,or could have been changed? and the picture called girl(with the stuffed animal hanging)can you tell if casey posted that herself,(where did it come from)
blink,you know,what if they claim accident via pool,has that been ruled out,will the autopsy be able to show, ,could they would they?what would happen then?would accidental pool drowning be able to be distinguished from intentional pool drowning?sorry cant wait for your upcoming piece
lol, your going to have to
B
SO BLINK.ARE G AND C STILL WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH BOZO OR HAVE THEY FALLEN OUT ( SINCE CASEY DOES NOT EVEN LOOK AT THEM)?
SO, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU BEEN A CRIMEWRITER?
DO I NOT GET TO ASK ANYMORE QUESTIONS?
DID YOU GET CINDY’S EMAILS ( END OF MAY) THAT I TRIED TO POST BUT IT DID NOT GO THRU?..I SEND YOU A MESSAGAE ON YOUR BOARD?
THANKS J
Blink,
Please check this out on utube Caylee Anthony–Who’s the Daddy? Incest? The…
4,318 views
albatross234 OMG it would all make sense of the REAl story of what happened with casey, george and cindy. Please look!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blink,
Utube Caylee anthony’s father-the real reason for secrecy-incest-the family secret-makes sense what casey holds over cindy and george, and she is about ready to throw them under the bus with this new attorney that is on board.
In regards to post #211 (insessionstrials), my thought is that the video has been viewed by LE, the judge, prosecutors office etc. If indeed Baez was “man-handling” his client in this video, there is no doubt that Baez would have been off this case already. The judge and the prosection have complaints against Baez that has not been made public. I am supposing that they are investigating “something”. Could this video, and the accusations that there is an intimate relationship between lawyer and client be what the judge is looking into?
Hi Blink,
The way I read the forensic report was that no latent prints were found at all. GA, CA, and LA prints were all submitted for exclusionary purposes in case prints were found…but none were found. Maybe I read that report wrong, and am very happy if I did read it wrong.
If Lee did the website on June 16 it would indicate he was somehow involved in the crime. I know many have strong feelings about Lee, GA and CA based on their behavior after KC was arrested, but from everything I have read and heard about their behavior in the first 24 hours after everyone realized Caylee was missing I see nothing but frantic and concerned relatives. I continue to take that behavior at face value as indicative they were not involved in the crime (cover up is another story).
I don’t see an email as being required when I post, but if I had to enter one in the past it would have been valid
(so yes, you can email me at that address)
It does not say that no prints were found, JWG, read the fine “print” LOL.
I agree the family was not involved with what happened to Caylee. They were however, very involved in attempting to cover up what happened.
B-
It comforts my soul to know of your involvement, care and concern in this case….and has been since what appears to me, since day one. As the one year anniversary of the initial 9-1-1 call approaches, I completely trust that; “No doubt, baby girl will be heard”. This one is still on God’s time isn’t it? For some reason, I believe you have MUCH more information than you have EVER released and find comfort in that. God Speed and may he give you the strength to press on in your quest to bring justice to this little doe-eyed angel baby girl!!! No pressure there for you…but many of us would walk with you directly to court if we could!
Yes Pam, I do. Very astute observation.
I remember distinctly where I was, what I was doing, and everything that I dropped that I had been working on when I learned of Caylee Marie Anthony’s plight for the first time. She defined my path, and I will never let her down. I stand for Caylee.
B
Sorry but they can’t make the Zanny the Nanny story go away it plays to big a part in Casey’s original lies & wild goose chases with detectives & the FBI. Transcripts of Casey describing to LE not just ‘Zanny’ but her Mother, Father, Sister, Roomates, this was her excuse, alabi & they are still standing by this obscene lie.
They can’t erase it at trial, how can anyone think it will just disappear when Casey still won’t deny the Zenaida in the civil suit is not the one & Cindy, George & Lee said as recently as a couple weeks ago ‘Zanny’ is still out there & they have their ‘pi detective’ following leads & keeping tabs on a ‘Zenaida’ somewhere in FL.
How does this go away at trial? You mean they just switch stradedy when it suits them & the prosecution goes OK, that’s not their story let’s hear what it is now & we’ll disprove the newest bunch of crap instead?? No friggin way & if so I just giver totally up on our judicial system. Not even the A’s should get away with changing their defense when the mood hits them or the old pile of crap becomes too transparently ridiculous & they know it doesn’t have a prayer at trial. Can we all do that when we get in trouble with the law, with no accountability? I’m still waiting for these pathological lying morons to be charged with tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice, hindering the investigation, but if they change the story again,what they say & do in the past won’t count? I refuse to believe they can change the game plan like it’s no big deal & nothing will happen to them & it won’t be fiercly challenged by the state trial. That would make me sick & I’ve already had about all I can take of this freak show.
I’m saying that they are locked into the Zanny the Nanny story whether they like it or not & if they suddenly want to divert from that sad little defense well IMO to little too late, that’s one thing I’ll disagree with they will not be allowed to switch gears when the trial starts & push the Zanny defense away like it never happened.
No way no how not when they are as of now still standing by the story, not because they want to but because the damage is done, the lies are on record, Sawgrass Apts., Blanchard Park, all of Casey’s defense & the people,places that were involved in Caylee’s ‘abduction & murder’ ties into the Zanny the Nanny defense. It ain’t going nowhere because it’s aleady done.
I agree with you they should have abandoned the “Zanny” defense long ago, but I’m not saying it will work.
B
BLINK..IS IT POSSIBLE TO ACCESS YOUR ARTICLES GOING BACK FROM THE BIGINNING OF THIS CASE? I TRIED TO GO TO THE LAST PAGE BUT IT ONLY GOES TO JANUARY..?…ARE THEY ARCHIVED ON THIS SITE?..THANKS
Some of my published work is not on here, and won’t be until after the trial.
B
Blink,
Post #54, “I also can tell you the defense is pretty much going to try to pin that on Tracy M”
Threw me….who is Tracy M? LP’s associate who stayed at the house?
yes
B
“Lastly, did you watch Annie Downing’s depo? Teehee.
Can I email you at this address?”
Yes, I did watch the deposition, and the most interesting part is when it was interrupted near the end as they were asking Annie if she knew whether or not KC has a fake ID. She answered no…then there was a long pause and they decided to take a break. Perhaps the attorney needed a bio-break, but I found the timing intriguing.
(P.S. - I see my email now and yes, that is the correct one.)
Lol, I thought you might agree with me on your fave part! Guess what Mr. Dill was holding in his hand?
B
Some of my published work is not on here, and won’t be until after the trial.
B
Hmmm….
Blink, maybe when it’s over, you can write a book and steal the thunder from anyone else trying to profit from all this. I’d certainly rather read yours.
Would be nice to get thoughts from Mark NeJame, but I suppose he can never reveal all, because of attorney client privilege?
Yes Nejame is limited by that relationship, but he is a friend and I truly believe he felt great compassion for the Anthony’s.
B
It’s fascinating. I remember reading and hearing about the concerted effort to create reasonable doubt through various organized internet posters who are Casey Anthony supporters. Over at Caylee Daily, they have links to another forum discussion on that and the ZG ID connection. I’m sure that you are aware, as some of the posters appear to be people that you know. The wuku.com sight purportedly is run by the defense, the Anthonys and Dominic Casey. I didn’t realize that this activity was actually illegal, perhaps unethical, but I didn’t realize illegal. Supposedly police investigators are in receipt of everything that was going down and are aware of those involved.
I bet Rev Grund was one person who passed this on to police. I remember him telling Nancy Grace that he had a private investigator checking into all of this.
Are you aware of all of this, and if so, are there charges coming? Are these people still operating,( it sounds as if they are)? Supposedly, they have been digging up dirt on anyone that they feel is a threat for some time now, including hacking some people’s computers…wow, is all I can say if true.
Not sure what site your referring to about the ZG ID connection, but that work was copyrighted before it ever hit the web, so I hope appropriate credit is given. I am definately aware of some of that peripheral crap that went down as this nimrods thought they could run all over the web anonymously. Not so.
B
We give you ’til Tuesday. OR ELSE! (lol)
I meant “SITE”, not “sight” in my last post
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread432443/pg6
It’s not that detailed Blink,it eludes to what you uncovered and it does mention you somewhere.
Yes, that one I am aware of.
B
“Lol, I thought you might agree with me on your fave part! Guess what Mr. Dill was holding in his hand?”
You’re messing with me
What was he holding? And if it is what I think it is, how / when did he get it?
No way, I would not dare mess with you
It was rhetorical though, and he got it from me
B
OMG……OMG….Blink, are you saying what I think you are saying?? She had a ZG id?? Holy Smokin’….smoke signals!! I read about those tickets, but didn’t get in depth with it.
JWG- I read all your code work, understand web design and coding just enough to follow it. Great, great work, but still don’t see how that would bring DP back to the table in and of itself. I can see her just saying she coincidentally made a page for her “friend and nanny” that morning using the email address of Zanny. (B-4 caylee was ‘taken’ that day) I’ve done pages for my puter illiterate friends. She’d just say she was checking it for clues when signing in later on. Not saying it would fly, but it goes to the rest of her hoax. Rebuttal welcome if I missed something, please feel free to poke holes back at that!
uhoh, riddle did not read the article.. tsk tsk. lol. That is the theory, one of them, yes.
The site alone would not put DP back on the table, and they had that when they pulled it off. The defense knows that, thus why Lyon was brought on.
B
…..Oh man….okay….lest I sound even dumberer…can you link me up? …..or is it an article on here all ready? I followed this story like a hound until Kelly Currin Morris (prayers), then got side tracked.
…and hmmm…me thinks ur “theories” have a little more weight behind them than most…..just sayin’
……never mind….I got it…..my bad.
SO BLINK.ARE G AND C STILL WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH BOZO OR HAVE THEY FALLEN OUT ( SINCE CASEY DOES NOT EVEN LOOK AT THEM)?
SO, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU BEEN A CRIMEWRITER?
DO I NOT GET TO ASK ANYMORE QUESTIONS?
DID YOU GET CINDY’S EMAILS ( END OF MAY) THAT I TRIED TO POST BUT IT DID NOT GO THRU?..I SEND YOU A MESSAGAE ON YOUR BOARD?
THANKS J
I, there is trouble in scamthonyland.
What Cindy emails are you referring to?
B
HEY BLINK..SO, DID JOHN DILL HAVE A COPY OF YOUR ARTICLE AND A FAKE I.D.????????
Iv-
affectionally, you need a course in subtle. Have you ever heard the term “Under the radar”?
Geeze.
B
HI BLINK.. I TRIED POSTING THE EMAILS FOR YOU THAT CINDY WROTE LAST WEEK TO 2 DIFFERENT BLOGGERS ON I.D…CINDY SENT BACK 3 EMAIL RESPONSES REGARDING THE SCAM FOUNDATION…I TRIED TO POST A COPY BUT YOUR SITE KEPT TELLING ME THAT MY TRYING TO SEND IT WAS A “DUPLICATE ” ( BUT IT NEVER POSTED.??)…ANYWAY, I STARTED A THREAD ON I.D WITH CINDY ANTHONY’S EMAILS SINCE SHE ACTUALLY HAD THE
F-ING GALL TO STATE ” :
CINDY ANTHONY (5-24-09~)” JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE WILL BE WHEN HER “REAL KILLER” IS FOUND”…..
THE EMAILS ARE ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE… ALSO, MIDWAY DOWN IS THE EMAIL CONFIRMAION OF AUTHENTICITY FROM THE BLOGGER WHO WROTE TO CINDY ( THE COMPUTER SPEAK SYMBOLS )..
http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3581916879/m/21119725101/p/1
HEY BLINK..SO, DID JOHN DILL HAVE A COPY OF YOUR ARTICLE AND A FAKE I.D.????????
Iv-
affectionally, you need a course in subtle. Have you ever heard the term “Under the radar”?
Geeze.
B
HEY BLINKIE..I CONNECTED ALL THE DOTS THAT I COULD—DID I GET IT RIGHT?…YES OR NO?…YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT MY EMAIL IF IT HAS TO BE “AMBIGUOSLY OUT THERE”… I ALWAYS LIKED TO BE “TEACHER’S PET” AND GET THE ANSWER RIGHT.. THANKS …J
PS..I LIVE IN FLORIDA SO THAT IS WHY I HAVE BECOME OBSESSED WITH THIS CASE…THERE ARE SO MANY F-ING LUNATICS DOWN HER ( AND NO I AM NOT A NATIVE FLORIADIA)..
IV-
I have said all I am going to say right now; with reason.
B
So….a dumber comment…if you will. This theoretically makes Dowling (that was on purpose) a liar. Why?? She would get immunity easily……unless they didn’t need to give it,(fingerprints not yet disclosed) okay, but wouldn’t they give it to her anyway to nail the coffin? (Shaking head…confused).
LOL on the Dowling… Howeling on the Dowling actually. Why would they need to give Annie anything? That would presume they didnt have it already, no?
B
RE:FLORIDA..PSYCHO SWEETON LADY GOES TO ORLANDO…HUGE CHILD PORNO BUST–OCCURING RIGHT NOW… BASKETBALL FAN GIRL GOES MISSING…BILLY BOB’S DAUGHTER KILLING THE CHILD SHE WAS WATCHING?..??? BRUTAL!
I don’t entirely understand why people write directly to Cindy Anthony, and frankly, I have less comprehension as to why she writes back. Either way, there will never be a ‘meeting of the minds’, or satisfaction, in either direction. She has taken a position that she will not budge from regardless,(only MAYBE when confronted in a court of law where she may be forced to answer certain things). When people write, it only reinforces her belief that they are victims, and yes, in a sense they are. It is like a parasitic symbiotic relationship with both sides feeding on each other. People write to her knowing she’s not going to change her mind and she can’t resist writing back; both sides thrive on it. It’s not going to change anything. Unless there is investigative work that uncovers & proves wrongdoing, she will continue on with the same platform.
Hey IVOIRE, you asked what Dill was holding in his hand— it was actually a 50cc syringe filled with ‘truth serum’ and the ‘take a break’ and go off record was to contemplate the question ‘To Use or Not to Use’…..
Hey Blink, trying hard to catch up on all this… didn’t miss the part on your new and upcoming article… waiting patiently… patiently… patiently…. (Is it ready yet?!??!?!!
HEY KLEAT….I ONLY WISH WE COULD HAVE SEEN THAT SIDEBAR! BUT, ANNIE -LIAR -DOWNING DOES LIE BOLD FACE AND SAY THAT “SHE WAS ALONE” WHEN SHE GOT THE TICKET ( I RE-WATCHED IT)..ALSO, I THINK SHE LIED ABOUT THE XAANAX TOO; VERY CAGEY GIRL… IV
http://www.youtube.com/v/EE6vlWbuLA4&hl=en&fs=1
HEY BLINKIE….THERE DEFINATELY IS TROUBLE IN SCAMTHONYLAND CUZ EVIL CINDY - AND KIN— ARE TAKING THEIR SHOW ON THE ROAD–TRYING TO STAY ONE STEP AHEAD OF THE LAW..LOL!…
I, there is trouble in scamthonyland.
What Cindy emails are you referring to?
B
What is the big family secret that keeps the Anthony’s protecting the daughter but then says ‘I don’t care where Casey is…’
Could it be that Casey was pretending to be all these things that she wasn’t really, created a reality for herself as a high school graduate, a Valencia student, a person who is moving out to her own apartment, a person with an important job and a nanny, etc etc etc etc.
What about Jesse Grund’s DNA test to see if he was Caylee’s father? Would the test of the baby’s DNA have been kept on file and would the FBI have long ago excluded any relation to be the father of Caylee? What of George’s DNA test that the FBI ran– wouldn’t they include a paternity test, just as they did with Lee? Is George proven to be Casey’s biological father?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA_DzEDquTk&feature=channel
Why did Baez ‘clamp his mouth’ last summer when Cindy was asked by Geraldo, who the baby’s father was?
NO mother or grandmother, who knows the last name of their baby or grandbaby’s father, EVER forgets that name. I believe that for a certainty, unless they have serious memory failure problems.
And, isn’t it curious that Casey chose George for a visit last summer in Jail, not Lee, not Cindy, but George… and LE made surreptitious audio (at least) recordings in the car as they drove George to the visit. And we never hear any more about this ‘visit’ but it did happen, it seems. What would LE and the FBI learn from this… only if there were clues to the whereabouts of Caylee, kidnapped or otherwise? Or was there a need to investigate more, the relationship between George and Casey by watching them interact when together alone.
“6/1/2009—–Motion To Stay—–OR DEFER THE CIVIL CASE UNTIL RESOLUTION OF THE PENDING CRIMINAL CASE”
Was this filed by Casey’s civil attorney? If they had dropped the counter suit, would that have been indicated with this filing? My point being, I can’t believe that they have not dropped the counter suit yet.
After I read about that yuku group story online yesterday, I moseyed over to WS to read some posts. Interesting. Under the SODDI thread, someone who appeared to be defending Casey Anthony might have threatened another poster with a lawsuit. I do believe that the defense group may have trolls on board there. I know that you mentioned that you’re not enamored with that site, but do you believe that they are aware of this organized effort and that they may have been infiltrated by it? I don’t get the point though, because they (the grp) are not likely to sway sentiment on that site. Maybe they are just running ‘test theories’ to see how it would float or be fought in court?
Also, is this actually illegal activity?
PS
I don’t post there, just read.
Blink — Was Annie lying about KC bringing Caylee to Dante’s apt and hanging out? When Dante S visited Websleuths (if it was him, and I think it was) he stated that Caylee had NEVER been in his apt, that he had spoken with Annie about this, and that he would have known if she had been there.
You know, can’t say. I know Annie is lying about a few things. However, you also cant trust unverified statements said anonymously on WS. That has happened frequently.
B
Hey Blink,
Sorry to bug you, but you’ve been saying you were going to post your theory on what happened to Caylee. I’m dying to know! When can we expect it?
Thanks!
J
LOL, My apologies, I did not say I would post my theory on what happened to Caylee. I said I would post my theory on what’s coming next, and what I believe will be the course of events the criminal case takes. I will, but I have been on the Ocasio case and a few of my interviews/consults for the piece had to be pushed back. I promise, I will as soon as I can. You understand that for me, a raw missing persons case will always take precedence, they deserve that. I did that for Caylee when we first learned about her case.
Thanks for your your readership and your patience.
B
Does Casey’s behaviour in the time period leading up to her pregnancy, the reputation of being the close-to-home one who had the reputation of being ‘the mom’ looking out for her friends, driving them home from parties as she was not the drinker, fit with the behaviour of someone who might be in an abusive situation. George leaving after the baby was born and Cindy taking the child as her own. Casey becoming more conflicted with her parents, her statement that ‘I am a lot like you’ on jail video. ‘The mom role’ as a bit of a reversal from the role of daugher/child in the family relationship.
Would Casey’s denial of her pregnancy, even denial of having sex (she said apparently she didn’t even have sex so she couldn’t be pregnant) be really about denying a pregnancy from incest, and the need for Jesse as ’surrogate’ real father and an escape from the family unit, until Jesse brought that house of cards down with his paternity test. If there was a father out there, why is it not clear through the name and other information Casey gave, unless it’s to cover something up and it’s not just Casey, it’s the whole family covering up. Casey was not embarrassed about telling the world that Jesse was the father, so why cover up the real father and make it impossible to find such a person in layers of conflicting stories and lies… makes no sense if you name someone else like Jesse who didn’t care if he was the biological father, he loved the child as his own regardless of biology.
And George left for a period of years. And George lied about seeing Caylee and Casey together on June 16th with a ‘TV movie-picture perfect’ reason, remembering his FoodTV show. (what were they cooking, George???) Did George do more than try to get wheel chocks and gas cans from Casey’s trunk, was he really instead, trying to find clues of Caylee’s whereabouts? Was Cindy’s ‘denial’ really a long-term denial of a deep family secret, more devastating to a family than bad gambling debts or email scams?
Role reversal is a behaviour that might show Casey as a victim of incest and the ZG identity for herself, became an escape world from her reality in a dysfunctional family, now escalated from just the incest, to mother of a child being brought up in the same environment. That would, if true, mean Caylee is just as much at risk as Casey would have been and that Caylee would have as much chance of protection and help from Cindy, as Casey had. (if true)
If this is true, it would be no excuse for killing a child, but it would go to the sentencing, and if true, there’s no way the DP would be applied by any jury.
Blink, I was just lurking on Scared Monkeys (not a member) and they were talking about the fact that Caylee was the only missing child in this area, when the news broke about a child’s body being found. Would you please remind them of Trenton Duckett. Even though I personally don’t believe that Trenton is dead, it is a possibility. When the news broke that morning in December, the public wasn’t sure if it was Caylee or Trenton. However, Casey knew. Thanks
Susan, I remember a comment about that from maybe a Sherriff’s office rep (not sure) at the time and that this comment was saying this is the only missing child in that area and that there were no other missing children reports from in or around that neighborhood. So, it seemed more specific as it could relate to the Anthony home area.
Blink,
I have read your posts from the beginning of this case on WS, then on Scared Monkeys and now here. No, I am NOT a stalker!
I find myself agreeing with you 99% of the time, and I look forward to your article on where you see this case going.
I was wondering: what are your thoughts on how involved Andrea Lyons will be in this case? (if it ever goes to trial). I was under the impression that her role as death qualified would come into play only if KC was found guilty, not from the get go. Am I wrong about this? Will Baez move over and let her take the reins, or will they butt heads about who is running the show?
Thanks again for all you do!
diz
Oh, I agree. I live in Mount Dora and everyone in this area knew there were only two children missing in this area, Trenton Duckett and Caylee Anthony. While we were pretty certain it was Caylee because of the location, we didn’t know for sure. We were open to the possibility of it being Trenton. However, from the reaction of Casey, she was not open to other possibilities. Why? Because she knew for sure that it was Caylee. How? Because she put her there.
diz, good question and notice that the deposition for Unser at least, was not done by Baez afterall, but by Linda K-B using Skype. So, why would she do it instead of Baez… I have a hunch that she and Ms. New D.P. Lawlady worked on the questions together via conferences. Cheaper than having the new DP travel to Florida for the needed days, and it would cover a DP qualified lawyer overseeing the depos, maybe even having direct input through K-B during the depos.
And then she could come in for her own curtain-call entrance with CV highlights when cameras were rolling.
Because there are 2 Susans commenting on this board, I will use Susan 2 in the future so as not to confuse any one. Thanks
Kleat #100 Interesting post, but I want to respond to your post #95 - I believe the reason Casey only wanted to visit with George at that point is because he was the only family member NOT asking her questions (I am just referring to the jailhouse vid where they are discussing who would be her visitor). Both Cindy and Lee would throw questions in among the endearments, but George just encouraged her. Any time someone would ask Casey a question at that time it was like “OK… next” to see who would let her sit with her fictitious stories.
I agree with you Angela. I think the reason George didn’t ask questions was because by this time “he knew”. He knew she wasn’t going to tell the truth and he didn’t want to hear more lies.
Yes Angela and Susan2, I think that too, but then, ‘if’, just for the moment, we assume that there could have been incest, the perpetrator would also not ask questions. They would want to keep things smoothed over and ‘normal’ to not draw attention and keep the person under control and on side, keeping the secret.
Fits also with Casey saying she was protecting the family as in, keeping the secret. Fits with Lee at the memorial, saying to ‘CMA’ that he will always keep his promise to her. It fits with Cindy needing to take back control from Casey, but also fits with her wanting to assure that Casey has not said anything in jail to anyone. Fits with a victim of incest reversing roles, taking over as a surrogate wife, but in this scenario, she had Cindy to deal with and Cindy would ‘deny’ what she knew of Caylee’s father. Fits with Cindy wanting to take back control from Casey by controlling her baby as her own– afterall, if the incest story is correct, she could have adopted the baby, the only grandparent who would have needed to, the other would be in that role already. Maybe the adoption would have raised the issue of paternity and got some answers they didn’t want public, maybe it was not a money issue afterall.
And fits with no report on paternity for any male member of the immediate family but Lee– why not, that one bothers me as a loose end.
And if Casey was taking herself into an imaginary world, becoming the magical Zanny the Nanny, then developing this into a Zenaida Gonzales identity, ready to take a target patsy with the same name, just adding in the other bit for detail and believability, she would become ZG, the ‘10′ with perfect teeth, close to the same age and description, with a great job, her own office, her own work supplied cell phone, with a budget for travel to stay at Hard Rock Hotel, interests in whatever tailored to her individual friends and lovers, money (which could easily become real. She could steal from Cindy with impunity as she was in control, keeping the secret, they couldn’t do much about it like call the police and risk the secret coming out). And if Casey made up stuff, lies as her imagination allows, then no one would believe her if she said anything about sexual advances by a family member anyway, so another way the secret is safe.
But we will have to wait and see if the father is ever identified to debunk these as some wild notions, or fact.
Check out Wesh news in Orlando. It’s been reported that the Anthonys and the Milsteads chased Lois (Dakota’s Grandmother) away from the Caylee Memorial Sight. Lois and a friend had gone there to leave a wooden cross for Caylee. I would post a link, but I don’t know how. My guess is the Anthonys and Milsteads are the people who cleared out all the stuffed animals, signs,….from the memorial. Why? Because they don’t want anyone to go there now. Why? Because we are going into the rainy season here in Florida and they don’t want anyone to see the condition of that property in June. They don’t want anyone to report how much water is standing there. They don’t want anyone to know what that property was like when Casey put Caylee there.
(Susan 2, for posting a link, copy and paste the link into the comment, that’s it! http://www.wesh.com/news/19636880/detail.html (like this!– thanks for the story)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDoeJm74dd4&feature=PlayList&p=6C1D5E69175C2711&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=10
Q: does anyone notice adult spoken words around the 32-36 second mark? What is Caylee trying to say, is she being taught something? Why is there no interaction between the camera person and the baby? And why the camera creeping below the highchair table but with no playful ‘peek-a-boo’ game.
Blink, I am grateful for your candid reporting. It is refreshing. I have thought there is incest involved in the Caylee Anthony case from the very start–even before I saw so many posts from other people hither and yon having reached the same conclusion. I identify strongly with the Anthony family because there was incest in my family (not me, thank goodness)….but a close family member. I recognize all the cover up type manuevering and the neurotic personality disorders. The only thing that doesn’t jibe…if true…is how George didn’t kill himself and stood up to eulogize Caylee. Certainly if he were Caylee’s Dad he wouldn’t be able to show his face anywhere. UNLESS Cindy doesn’t know (which is even possible given the woman’s boundless capacity for delusion and denial) and he felt he is getting some sort of reprieve from public scrutiny somehow.
We are not “allowed” to discuss incest on the WS discussion board–which strikes me as funny. Murder is technically a more severe crime than incest…isn’t it? And murder is discussed at WS out the yingyang. Incest= not discussable. I guess incest makes people much more uncomfortable than murder. Anyway…will you please weigh in with your thoughts on incest in the Anthony family?
I admit I considered it strongly in the beginning, mostly because of how effed up Casey was, and how vehemently the A’s defended her. I thought, there’s no possible way they could defend this freak unless she had something “on them”. However, absent any evidence, and I think given the love lost within the extended family, I truly believe if that was the case, there would be at least the intimation of that from someone. An allegation like that is just not something Im comfortable with being speculative on.
B
How DARE the Anthonys steal the cross that the ladies left for baby Caylee, as a show of love and grief?? Apparently the Anthonys think, and really believe, that they are ABOVE THE LAW!! I hope and pray that the Anthonys are thrown under the bus by the new attorneys! They deserve it! They have the graciousness of PIGS! How can they get away with such behavior? I imagine the ladies were terrified! I would be if someone came after me like that!
kleat that was really creepy it spooked me bad,no seriously that was gross and is making me cry ,i immediatly thought george could be the father when this case started,his throwing up in interview, suicide attempt,aggression, tampering with evidence, have thought he might be guilty party ,but thought he was ruled out as father, but i truly was not prepared for that , and didnt like it,if there were words from another person present sounded female
kleat, i found very interesting in the secret police taping of george,he didnt mention caylee once
I keep reading about how Casey thought she was being taken for medical treatment the day little angel was found. What did she need treatment for?? Anyone??
i think that video should be removed from you tube its disturbing made me feel like i am part of it and brings to mind the concept of untracable (i havent seen that movie) the movie they watched.couldnt, wouldnt watch again.
if casey had a fake id and casey writes stolen checks, wouldnt casey use fake id to cash stolen checks at some point, ever ?
Thanks so much, Blink. You’re wonderful at what you do. I totally respect you putting forth your efforts and concentration in trying to find Tracy - that’s a sad story and I have a gut feeling it’s not going to end well.
Thanks again!
Jenn
Blink
I think that you are right. I think that the defense is going to say that Casey was emotionally abused by George & Cindy. (and perhaps physically, if the choking incident comes in). Also that she had PTSD following the fight, and either couldn’t remember what happened to Caylee, or failed to report it for fear that Cindy might kill her (literally or figuratively).
Or that during the fight, Cindy unintentionally harmed/killed Caylee, put her in the trunk and told Casey that she needs to get rid of her, essentially blaming Casey (for her escalated anger about the stolen money) which inadvertently caused the death. Casey is so traumatized that she leaves Caylee in the trunk for days. Cindy gets even with Casey, later calling police, after discovering that the car smells of death and that Casey left her in there too long, not following Cindy’s directive immediately. There were witnesses to the smell, that’s why she was compelled to call. Also, they’ll intimate that Casey originally made up the nanny Zanny story in order to keep Caylee away from Cindy’s watch as much as possible and to get a new identity in order to escape her home life. Cindy goes along with this story of the nanny to cover her own butt so that Casey doesn’t spill the beans on her. In the jailhouse video, Cindy, knowing there was no nanny, plugs Casey for potential people that she can blame it on. I’m, of course, not saying that any of this happened, I am looking at how the defense could use to their advantage the inconsistencies the Anthonys have gotten caught on and also their aggressiveness & volatility that has been caught on tape. Or like many other Mothers who have killed children, in the penalty phase, if one, that she killed Caylee to save her from Cindy.
Showing the Anthony’s antics could conceivably convince a juror that they are at the least, fiery, impulsive and not forthright. The biggest hurdle is getting past the 31 days of not calling police. This might cover that.The DP lawyer may actually love that all this continuous drama is going on with them.
ok do we need to be patient a little longer…..well it is always worth the wait Blink. Thanks for helping the rest of us wade through the muck of this case. Will enjoy your full insight when the case nears and then finally ends.
Blink, what happened at the hearing in California yesterday? My curiousity (sp) is about to get to me.
Proceeding to trial. Pretrial conf 9/22/09
B
Too long for here, I will do a piece on this next week. It’s time.
B
It’s worth waiting for! Thank you for your hard work and sharing your thoughts with us Blink. God bless~
Can someone indulge me and maybe shed some light on my question.
If Casey is running with the ‘covering for her family’ angle, it still doesn’t explain her partying behaviour and stealing from Amy. Are we to believe this was a part of the cover….REEEEEEEEEEALLY?
Thank you to anyone who responds. Love and light!
JuneB, in my humble opinion, momster will not cover anyone’s butt butt her own. The question that plays over and over in my mind is if If they humans (I don’t even want to call them people) really believed someone else did this crime, they would be knocking on doors, start talking straight without snippy little comments, going to see their slore of a daughter for any hints, tidbits, etc. Instead, they try to make money on their dead grandchild, hook themselves with known criminals, tour around the country like some damn heroes, and speak beautiful Caylee’s name like it was a badge of courage. It is for those of us who want Justice for Caylee and absolute torture for those maggots who have been living off her remains, yes George, that’s all that was left, thanks to all of you. (sorry, I’m on a tear right now and sure do need your love and light!)
I have never thought incest was involved. Casey could never keep her big mouth shut if that was the case. Also, LE has George and Lee’s DNA. Wouldn’t they know if incest was involved? Casey totally ignored G.&C. the last time they were in court. I think she is going to blame the Anthonys for Caylee’s murder to at least suggest “reasonable doubt.” At this point the realiy of the situation is becoming more real to Casey, and she will say or do ANYTHING to save her a$$.
Casey Anthony Case: ‘Mommy’s Little Girl’ author defends title, book. Fanning QUOTES The Anthonys will profit from the book.
Blink, did I read here or on someone’s post that the medical examinor has a vial of Ortiz’s blood or did I dream that?? If he is Caylee’s bio then his family would be able to put that to rest or keep it as info they do not wish to share. Would sure put to rest all the incest talk. Also on your other post where I opined about the ZG DL, office break in, etc. believe me I had no idea there was a website that “outlined” it so well (topsecretsite). It really was from my reading your posts, though I don’t always have time to read all the comments that go with.
CB
Onionskin- to clarify, topsecret or whatever, is a complete thread based on my work, my original content. It is very hard to find, but their is an attribution in there somewhere I am told. We will know who Caylee’s Bio Dad is if this goes to trial, there is no doubt in my mind.
B
So, Blink, are you affiliated with this site or are they ripping off your hard work? I don’t understand. There is indeed an attribution to you. This site gave me a creepy gut feeling like I didn’t even want it to show on my computer that I had even gone there. I do so read your every word and try to keep all thoughts on getting justice for our Caylee. TIA and have happy and safe July 4th.
CB
I am NOT affiliated with any site except this one and ScaredMonkeys, and Scared Monkeys Radio. We have lawyers to keep track of that stuff, I never get involved with it personally, but thank you and same to you and yours
B
Thanks, Blink! I decided that I wasn’t going to pay heed to my gut feeling, so went back and have read all night on this white on black print site (BTW very hard on the eyes to read with reverse print colors) and all I can say is WOW, they are very close to the line. Also, some verrrrrry scarey stuff there that I’m sure LE has probably picked up.
I’m way off topic for me as I still have the lanyard to figure out and, like you, I think I have a head ache on that one. Another also, I still think it’s the sandle and the disturbed dirt. I think I’ll lite a sparkler for our Caylee for the 4th. Can’t you just see the sparkle in her eyes and hear the giggles. Look who else we have to behold in heaven.
Gotta go feed my “girls,” Kissee the Maltese and Bubbs the Cat Queen of the House. And, then get their servant some sleep.
CB/Onionskin
Thanks for that recipe boo, sounds yummy.
B
He seems very shady to me..In his 1st interview with detectives..He claims the first encounter was ..He was in the woods with his partner/partners..and he saw what he thought was a “human skull”..he told his partner/partners..but they didn’t see anything…he then went home and told his girlfriend, who said to call it in to the police…so he did. The next time he went back to the wooded area…”a few days later”….He saw a completely closed “BLACK” plastic bag…he poked into it with his baton…and a human skull fell out at his feet. My question is,,,during the first encounter…how did he see a “HUMAN SKULL” through a “COMPLETELY CLOSED BLACK PLASTIC BAG”????? Hmmm…..I wonder?
TJ, that’s not the half of it
B