Caylee/Casey Anthony Case Bombshell: Proof George Anthony Lied
Orlando, FL– In a bombshell released in discovery today, evidence George Anthony could not have been telling the truth about June 16th.; allegedly the last time he saw Casey and Caylee leave:
According to the Investigative Report Excerpt regarding the Cell phone ping study, Casey did not leave the Anthony home until 4:14PM on June 16th. Not the 12:50PM time he told Investigators and recounted in several media interviews. Most recently, George refused to discuss the last time he saw his granddaughter Caylee during the deposition in the civil case against his daughter, lodged by Zenaida Gonzalez.
Given the previously released computer forensics, whereby we know Casey was on the home computer on an IM chat in the morning this supports the fact she was in the home, and as the calls begin on Casey’s cell, she is leaving the residence.
SO.. Could it be George who never came home the evening of June 15th? Did Casey leave her cell phone there the evening before and come back? Impossible. She was on it.
Message to Leonard: This makes one more.. LOL.. Told You.
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Blink or everyone,
Any speculation on why the lie from George on the date and times????
What or who is on Semoran and Aloma Avenue? Is this possibly the location that a witness saw Casey in a hotel parking lot? She was there over night June 16-17th from aprx 1757-1418 hrs.
(moving forward to new article)Are there pine trees in the backyard at the anthony’s, or could these terp compounds have come from something like Pine sol or some other cleaning agent that may have been used to remove evidence? If not, it’s weird that she would bury Caylee in a swamp, put her back in the car, only to bury her again in a swampy area. Unless debris ended up being transferred to the trunk, from the location that Caylee’s remains were recovered at. I can’t imagine though, that a ton could get in there, if she was just closing the trunk & not putting anything back in, unless there was rain or wind that swept it in there….what did she throw back into the trunk that had transferred vegetation from the dump site?
Blink
What time did George actually arrive at work that day?
Ok Im not real sure I understand this – is it possible that Casey could have left at the time George stated but waited somewhere in the area for him to leave and then come back to the house and then leave again at the time indicated?
artgal, I was wondering the same thing. Doesn’t she have a fairly wide radius to move within and still stay with the same cell tower (that is, it does not look like movement even though she might have traveled a mile)?
At the time that Geo was recounting the last time he saw Caylee . . . WHY ?!? WHY ?!? WHY ?!? would he lie? His story wasn’t vague really either. In fact it was pretty clear the 1st time that he was very detailed in what they were wearing – what was on tv – what time it was. And then to add the whole breakfast thing – as if he just forgot to say it the first time just didn’t pass the fishy smell test. Now we find out that they didn’t leave – OR – maybe they left and Casey came back to get her cell? I don’t think she would leave without her cell phone for 3 hours unless she INTENDED to.
So is Geo lying or what? Why? Did they know something already? What? Ooooh this burns me UP! Did he do something to help Casey . . . ummmm . . . did Cindy plan everything? I cannot wait to hear what the great thinkers here say!
Look at the calls, she was on her phone, no getting around it. Why did George call Casey at 4PM? He said he last saw them a few hours before, he has never mentioned that either.
B
I am confused too. Doesn’t the 1pm ping show she was in a different cell phone area?
wow this opens another big can of worms
If George is lying do you think that he told the prosecuters the same story. Wouldn’t her be perjuring himself. If she was there when he left for work, why would he lie. It’s boggling my teeny tiny mind. I just catch on as quick as you guys, but oh my goodness, this could be big.
yeah im confused too about the 1pm ping – isnt that a different cell area?
B, I wonder what his GJ testimony was in regard to the last time he saw Caylee alive – similar to what he stated in LE interviews or what he stated later (& had changed) in the GMA ‘anniversary of the 911 call’ appearance?
now THERE’S timing by the prosecution!! George’s depo is signed and sealed and before the week is out, this latest doc dump!
Of course, Blink has known this all along– will have to wait to read all tho, good thing weekend is next!
I’m sick of the lies – STAND UP FOR YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER!
Isn’t the longitude and latitude the same on the 1pm call. Could the call have routed another tower, but her still be in same location?
What page is this 1PM ping on? I can’t find it.
OMG what a shock (NOT). Hey who let the DOGS out? hmmmmm
Latitude is slightly different. She could have been ‘hovering’ around her parents house at that time. Meaning in the area, driving around the neighborhood killing time, and hit another tower for a small time.
Do you all remember GA interview with LE where he was very adament about when he last saw them. Didn’t he say something like. ” I am gull darn positive” wasn’t he talking about the cooking show. Did you guys ever find out for sure if the cooking show was even on that day?
“Its a doggone Fact”.. That was my public service announcement to everyone that when he says that he is lying.
B
Never mind. It wasn’t the PDF I had been reading it was what was posted by Blink
I just can’t get past how arrogant these anthonys are to think that OCSO and FBI would not obtain their cell and ll records. Who did they think they were fooling?
The prosecution are “no dummies” in the timing of their “discovery dumps” are they?
I don’t ‘get’ how Baez thinks he’s (Lyon’s) gonna show Casey is “innocent” (as opposed to “not guilty”)unless they’re gonna try to say “George did it not Casey” !
I mean, if he’s lying about seeing them walk out at 12:50pm, then Casey could say “hey, I was in my room the whole time on my cell phone, & didn’t see Caylee that morning, but my Dad did something to her, & threatened me if I didn’t go along w/the “Zanny script” & keep what he did a secret from my Mom & Lee…until I couldn’t stand the car stench & Dad told me to ditch it, he’d take care of it (hoping it’d get stolen), & then Mom picked it up on July 15th & the cat was out of the bag.”
Comment #17 – Steph, I’d speculated on the slightly earlier story blink posted that:
if she’d gotten herself & Caylee dressed to go out…& come back in w/o having left…but it’d have been hot, too hot to just sit in the car w/the a/c going & Caylee’d have been fussing just sitting there while she obsessesd w/cell phone calls, & she was gas-conscious, so a reasonable person wouldn’t expect she’d have done that.
When Lee candidly told TonyL (wearing the wire) that “his dad typically leaves for work at 11:45am”, it refuted what George had said about seeing THEM leave at 12:50pm..plus, what other ppl had uncovered & posted on this board about the food shows not jibing with what George had said led one to be suspicious of his version of events. Thing is, Casey’s cell phone was pinging at the Anthony residence consistently through the day until 4:14pm, & she eventually left to meet TonyL & watch the “notorious” blockbuster videos. I couldn’t understand why he EVER had said he’d seen THEM leave when it was HIM leaving. Was he selected by Cindy to take the fall?
IIRC, LE had speculated she may have killed Caylee in the early hours of June 16th, and others speculated she may have killed Caylee in the late afternoon (based on the ping data that afternoon).
I don’t know which is more likely, but I don’t think Casey ever left with Caylee in front of George & think he may never have seen Caylee that day at all…Casey may have kept her door shut all morning until he left for work later (particularly given the confrontation the night before).
Lily, details, details… embellishing… making stories seem more believable. Those details could easily have been from the last date George remembers in detail, seeing Caylee and Casey leave the house and what he was doing. Easy to shift that– and also, George remembered one thing clearly in his statements to LE about the date and circumstances surrounding his ‘chasing’ of Casey through e-passes as he saw Casey driving her mother’s car and decided this was ‘enough’, he was going to follow her. That story then changed as he ‘clarified’ and Cindy confirmed George was wrong. So, George has done this day-shifting before.
But I’m still not clear on how Casey could not have just left the house at the noon time, then returned after George left– as devil’s advocate. I’m sure that will be answered soon enough.
Okay, help a girl out here?
Couldn’t Casey have simply left with Caylee per George’s story and driven round the block from their home to wait for his departure?
How can we be 100% Casey was actually INSIDE the Ants’ home until after 4pm on 6/16/08?
Help!
#15, wsh, it’s in Blink’s jpg above– enlarge if you can’t see it on the webpage.
I am sick right now just sick!
may be a dumb question but whats the difference between innocent and not guilty? wouldnt both mean that you didnt do?
BTW this could very well support my theory that when casey did confess cindy tried to choke casey. I certainly would have. Explains why geo was the last to know. He wasn’t around. He was kept out of the loop too later on. Casey was torturing cindy with caylee’s whereabouts. Lee found out where she was first is my opinion. Still leaves the question who went to caylee and left the shorts?
Wait to see lee’s records, that will tell us a lot.
re: westsidehudson #2: you may have already figured this out by now but the Semoran and Aloma Avenue tower address is less than a mile from Tony L’s address at Sutton Place (checked it on google maps).
jayem422p
You can be found not guilty by reason of insanity, for instance. You did it, but didn’t know the difference between right and wrong. Innocent means you had no part what so ever.
jaynem422p, yeah, Lyon doesn’t have to prove her innocence, just has to convince the jury (I think) that the evidence doesn’t necessarily point to casey (she must create reasonable doubt). So she will try to get some evidence thrown out, and bring in experts to show that this or that test is unreliable, and bring experts who can give different interpretations.
I’m going to have to head to Barnes n’ Noble for my copy of ‘Cell Phone Pings for DUMMIES’!
First, need a lesson in reading the ping page– each cell tower reflects a cell signal based on Casey’s cell phone, and never the caller’s phone location. I’m assuming that is always consistent.
Next question, when an outgoing call has zero ‘duration’, there is no record of the location of Casey’s phone recorded, yet the number and type of call is recorded. Why no tower ‘location’ if the rest of the information is recorded? (if, for example, someone were to make an emergency 911 call that was dropped before connection was made, would there be no record of the physical location of the phone for that call? Or, is that info available but just not on these particular records?
Next question, I’m curious about the 37 minute ‘INCOMING’ call FROM Casey at 10:59 AM, June 16th. Would this be Casey calling her voicemail or reading her textmessages? Sitting over by the Amscot, reading messages for almost 40 minutes? (sorry, I’m a ‘texting dummy’– if she responds to a text message, then I assume it would be on hold until sent after she signs off receiving messages?)
Angela
Thanks…That’s weird. Why not just go to Tony’s? I want to see the interview with him about what his conversation was with Casey the night before.
jayem422p, not the same. Innocent, you did not do it. Not guilty is a verdict handed down by a jury in a murder case, doesn’t not mean you did not do it, but that you must be found ‘guilty beyond a reasonable doubt’. That is the standard that must be met and if the burden is not met by the state, if the jury decides that there is ‘reasonable doubt’ (not just ‘any doubt’), then the verdict would be ‘not guilty’.
Remind me – was George working security at Lexus Winterpark? I get twisted the longer this goes on.
07:45 the house phone rings Casey’s cell phone but no conversation.
07:45 – 11:47 cell phone pings HOME tower
11:47 – 12:06 accepts approx 19 min call from Tony pings HOME tower
12:06 – 01:00 unknown (George says they leave approx now)
01:00 – 01:14 She accepts approx 14 min call from Tony pings CHELSEA tower
01:14 – 01:44 unknown
01:44 – 02:10 She calls Amy for 36 mins. pings HOME tower
02:10 – 02:52 unknown
02:52 – 03:01 accepts call approx 11 mins from Jesse pings HOME tower
03:01 – 04:04 unknown
03:04 – 03:05 accepts call from George less than 30 secs HOME tower
03:05 – 04:10 unknown
04:10 – 04:10 she calls Lexus for approx 30 seconds pings HOME tower
04:11 – 04:13 tries to call Cindy FOUR times pings HOME tower and near CHELSEA tower
05:14 – 05:14 tries to call George at Lexus is on for 1.5 mins (HOLD?) pings HOME tower
04:19 – 04:20 calls Tony for approx 1 min (leaves msg?) TOLL tower
04:20 – 04:21 calls Jesse (call didn’t go through?) no ping
04:21 – 04:22 recalls Jesse for approx 1 min (leaves msg?) TOLL tower
04:25 – 04:25 tries to call Cindy but no answer COLONIAL tower
04:25 – 06:31 unknown
06:31 – 06:31 tries Cindy no answer no ping
06:32 – 06:32 tries Cindy again but no answer GOLDENROD/GLENMORE tower
06:32 – 06:33 tries Anthony house land line (assume no answer 17 secs) PURLIEU tower
06:33 – 06:34 checks her voicemail PURLIEU tower
06:34 – 07:06 unknown
07:06 – 07:07 unanswered? Call to Anthony house land line GOLDENROD/GLENMORE tower
07:20 – 07:20 unsuccessful call to Amy PURLIEU tower
07:21 – 07:22 recall Amy (left voicemail?) PURLIEU tower
08:03 – 08:04 calls Cingular voicemail ? tower
08:04 – 10:04 unknown except phone records have a strange item? 10:59? COLONIAL tower
09:04 TEXT unknown ? tower
10:45 TEXT Amy ? tower
11:17 TEXT Amy COLINIAL tower
I am just trying to make sense of this day and figure out why Geo would lie. I still don’t know.
Re: #22 oneshot; I hate to say this but if she had already killed Caylee, she wouldn’t be fussing in the car while Casey is on the phone in the wee hours of the 16th.
I am kind of curious as to her pattern of talking on the phone in the middle of the night prior to the 16th. Where is the parent’s room in relation to her’s? If Caylee slept in her room at night would it be uncommon for her to be in her room with Caylee sleeping in the middle of the night talking on the phone? Wouldn’t you worry about waking the baby? Maybe she would go into another room, I don’t know. I have always wondered did she kill her at home? Or in the car?
Jan # 24
I’m wondering that myself. I’m sure that the detectives must have gone to where Caylee was dumped to see where those pings would land (on any cellphone), and perhaps around the perimeter of the Anthony household to determine towers. In the one report they(LE) requested engineers from AT&T to provide an analysis of how strong each tower was. AT&T didn’t want to set a precident in regards to law enforcement requesting this in the future, so they told detectives that they wouldn’t do it. Perhaps, a study was later done by AT&T engineers or engineers on staff or hired by detectives. AT&T said they would leave the door open to that a possibility if a prosecution was in the works.
It clearly states, in the analysis by Agent Moore that she remained at the residence. Hopefully this report isn’t in error, or like you said, could she have gone around the block to bide time until George left??
Why is Casey listed as a caller on her own cell phone twice on the 16th? Once at 18:33 outgoing call and then at 10:59 as an incoming call? Did she actually have two cell phones and was calling back and forth to find the other one or does she have a find listed as Casey in her cell phone? That part confuses me.
Why the phone call at 7:45am placed to Casey’s phone from the Anthony’s phone? Was she home and she couldn’t find her phone so she called it? Or were the Anthony’s trying to call her because she wasn’t home? or were they in the habit of actually calling her cell phone when she was sleeping right in her room?
But she accessed her voicemail immediately after that. If you were searching for your cell phone and called it from the home number why would you leave a voicemail?
Blink: Spot on girl regarding George’s lies. Back on Aug. 11 of 2008, when he and Cindy did an interview with Greta Van Susteren, he skated around the issue of what Caylee was wearing the last time he saw her. I knew right then, that he was lieing about what Caylee was wearing that day. I believe he never saw either Casey OR Caylee on the 16th!!! (Excerpt from mid-interview):
“On The Record with Greta Van Susteren; August 11, 2008″:
QUESTION: The last thing that you saw Caylee…
GEORGE ANTHONY: I’ve got a full tank of gas and I’m ready to go.
QUESTION: The last thing that you saw Caylee wearing was her white sunglasses and her jeans skirt…
GEORGE ANTHONY: All that, guys, is part of the initial reports, so I don’t want to go back and — that’s backing up again.
QUESTION: I was just wondering if — did they find it?
GEORGE ANTHONY: Guys, that’s something you’re going to have to ask the sheriff’s department. See, now you’re going — you’re taking another step so please — I don’t want to go into that kind of step, OK? My granddaughter is still with us. I know it deep in my heart. My wife knows it. So don’t be taking it in another area because, guys, we still have a lot of stuff to get out there and to get done.
How obvious is it that George absolutely did not want to discuss this clothing issue??!!! IMO…because he wasn’t there and did not know!
Blink – Incredible reporting as always!!!!!!
Isn’t Lee’s home is in the same area? She could have gone there until her father left. I still think something happened at the house, Caylee choked, drowned, smothered…puposeful or accident??? The whole story is so fishy and now George has obviously lied. Why? Was someone supposed to be watching the baby and didn’t do their job? This family makes me so angry because they lie, lie, lie and think they are so smart and can outfox LE. I sure hope all of the lies come back to bite them hard. The Orlando Senteinial article about no blood in the trunk is silly. If your smother or drown someone there would be no blood. Duh!
Im a bit confused, at 10:59 on the 16th the records show casey calling herself. It shows her as caller and is listed under incoming. Could someone please explain this to me?
Kleat – I’m almost sure the call duration is in call seconds. So a lot of them either didn’t go through, went to voicemail or were abandoned. I’ve worked in the telecom industry for years but I’m not as familiar with cell technology as I am voice/data switching & networks.
Gypsy DD – A lot of people dial their own numbers to retrieve their voice mail messages. Most companies offer this service by pushing ‘*’ or ‘#’ and most services offer a separate number to retrieve your messages too. Its just a preference thing. It does appear that Casey called a Cingular number to retrieve a voicemail or maybe check her minutes or something on the 16th.
Westsidehudson, IIRC, the cell provider would not provide those details until the LE were further along in their investigation, not that they would not do it when there was enough reason to go to that trouble. It was not a refusal, just a request to not have to do it prematurely so to set a precident. Obviously, there was good reason to do it as things progressed in the investigation.
opps, sorry, i just read where someone has already addressed this.
Not that I have any faith in anything the A’s say but the phone records could support George’s story and the theory that she does leave the A home around 12:50pm and lurks in the area until she’s sure no one is home. She could have left the house with Caylee drove around the block talking to Tony at 1pm which shows the slight change in long & lat then doubled back to the house when George was gone. Soo question is do we have independent proof of George showing up for work somewhere at a certain time that day? I believe there is but I can not find it now. Maura? lol Isn’t that 3:04pm George called her or am I blind? 26 mins hmm and then the repeated calls to Cindy followed by a Lexus Dealer???! kinda like “MOMMMMMMM I just talked to Dad and the dead baby in my trunk is really gonna stink soon he’s gonna get rid of it but I need a lexus like NOW!” OMG It’s chilling. Hopefully someone has some more facts to tip the scale one way or the other. BTW Blink love your site have been reading here since it was first up found you n started reading your stuff on Caylee on scared monkeys 1st comment tho, get um girl!!
In my posted timeline of cell phone records the entry at 05:14 should be 04:14.
thx lily, I didnt’ now how this would work.