Caylee/Casey Anthony Case Bombshell: Proof George Anthony Lied
Orlando, FL– In a bombshell released in discovery today, evidence George Anthony could not have been telling the truth about June 16th.; allegedly the last time he saw Casey and Caylee leave:
According to the Investigative Report Excerpt regarding the Cell phone ping study, Casey did not leave the Anthony home until 4:14PM on June 16th. Not the 12:50PM time he told Investigators and recounted in several media interviews. Most recently, George refused to discuss the last time he saw his granddaughter Caylee during the deposition in the civil case against his daughter, lodged by Zenaida Gonzalez.
Given the previously released computer forensics, whereby we know Casey was on the home computer on an IM chat in the morning this supports the fact she was in the home, and as the calls begin on Casey’s cell, she is leaving the residence.
SO.. Could it be George who never came home the evening of June 15th? Did Casey leave her cell phone there the evening before and come back? Impossible. She was on it.
Message to Leonard: This makes one more.. LOL.. Told You.
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Hi Deb, good thoughts on that– but a couple of just ideas, Casey was good at remembering phone area codes, if Tony’s area code was different (ie: maybe his cell phone number from NY?), Casey would know this. And make the mistake one time, but twice when she got voicemail and left a message for Chris?
Maybe there was another phone call ‘home’ or another part of her call redacted, that asked for Chris’s number. Maybe someone suggested to her, to call Chris. We don’t hear anything about Chris in the documents or communications released, suggesting the same suspicions as for Jesse, Rico or maybe even Tony. That doesn’t mean there were not any.
Casey was controlling information all along and anyone Casey brought in, was brought in for a reason, and every offer of help or help she gave to anyone, was for a reason to benefit Casey.
Surely Casey wasn’t calling Chris for a shoulder to cry on with no strings attached.
And, I tend to think that by the time he interviewed CS, YM was well aware of the swim-gear, hair clips etc in that bag returned to Cindy by Stutz. Look at how he questions Chris, ‘anything else in the bag??’. No, Melich does not bring up the subject to Chris– he asked ‘anything else you can recall’ question, offering Chris a chance to add more, and he does– voluntarily brings up the bag of swim stuff. He doesn’t go into detail, YM gives him the chance with ‘anything else?’. JMHO
comment 497-susanm how does decomp get in back yard. imo the day cindy was cleaning the car she took the dirty pants and let them air out in the back yard while she cleaned the car. it left trace evidence. thats my opinion
VeLoWoodson, recall that IF casey had a ZG ID (and that’s a big if), it was in her purse that got towed away from Amscot and impounded at Johnson’s at the time she was stealing Amy’s checks, otherwise it would have been a much better plan. So she must have had a duplicate/alternate Casey ID that she used to write the check to herself, stupidly signing her own name (oops).
Could she have hung out by that Curry Ford road address using her laptop to surf on someone’s unprotected wireless signal for an hour and a half?
Is 895 N. Jessup ave, Oviedo FL listed on amy huizanga resume? Also I notice that jaime realander (fusion shot girl) is listed on the wl as jaime realander, oviedo. And who also soke to casey for 23 min on 7/15 11:35am
A Pattern of Failing to Communicate (Hide) Relevant Information to LE (for the purpose of locating Caylee/determining what happened to her:
Per Jim Hoover’s ZFG civil case deposition, Cindy & George Anthony’s Pivate Investigator, Dominic Casey, believed that Caylee was alive. Until November 15, 2008, that is.
It was on this date that P.I. Dominic Casey phoned Hoover (who was voluntarily assisting the Anthonys as a body guard/personal assistant of sorts–did this guy answer that crazy ad for a “Personal Assistant”?! I mean, he sure fits the bill–bodyguard/driver/food runner/gofer/errand boy/alibi accomplice/etc) and requested him to come to Dominic’s business office for a meeting.
Inside the office, the mood was somber. Dominic told Hoover that Caylee was DEAD. Not that a somewhat less than trustworthy tipster said that Caylee was dead and so she MIGHT be dead. No. He was somehow certain that Caylee was dead. They had to go to a wooded location, just around the block from the Anthony home, to go and find her body.
The source of the tip, he would not reveal.
The two of them drove to Suburban, parked just across from the area where Caylee’s remains were ultimately discovered less than a month later. Dominic was on the phone a number of times with the tipster (or some “psychic” minion of the “tipster”, or some dupe of the “tipster”), and poked around in the woods.
**Neither P.I. Dominic Casey nor Cindy and/or George Anthony alerted OCSO/FBI of this tip by November 15, 2008 and/or up until the date that Caylee’s remains were located in the same location/vicinity (the wooded area by Hidden Oaks Elementary).
*****this gets a full 5 FISHYs award*****
Why 5 full FISHYs??
Well…
As we know, a videotape of the November 15, 2008 “search” surfaced, thanks to Hoover. This led to the interview of P.I. Casey.
Dominic Casey was questioned about where he received tips to search for Caylee. He said 99.9% came through Cindy & George via the tip line, etc. (He neglected to tell them the precise source of the .1%, the only REAL tip).
When questioned whether he turned over all tips to LE, he said, only the “credible” tips.
Who, he was asked, made the determination as to whether a tip was “credible”?
Of course. Dominic, CINDY & George.
It was pointed out to him that what he had forwarded to OCSO was actually the contrary, i.e. highly INcredible tips. (Such as,…oh.. a LIVE CAYLEE sighting at the Florida Mall (because, yeah, a kidnapper would take the kid to a well-populated, public place when all of Orlando/most of the United States was aware that she was “missing”/”kidnapped”, or alternatively, because, yeah… Caylee would somehow be able at age 3 to get there on her own–AHEM. Good thing Cindy OKed that one to be sent to OCSO. Yep. That’s a great way to spend taxpayer dollars, sending detectives on wild goose chases).
And his reason for failing to alert OCSO of the tip that Caylee was dead/he body in the woods by Hidden Oaks Elementary (the only tip, by his own admission, of a DEAD Caylee)?? He says it wasn’t “credible” (even though he went to the location on 3 separate occasions to just make sure that this tip was not truly “credible”)(even though this is where her remains were located a mere 3.5 wks later).
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-03/45692411.PDF
Just like the bag of Caylee’s swim/hair items that Chris brought to the house, here is another fine example of the level of cooperation Cindy was providing to LE.
Tomato, Tomahhhhto… Cooperation, Obstruction….
Let’s call the whole thing off.
I would like to know opinions on as to why Chris would not take her call from jail. I would think that he wonders now what she was calling for beings he had nothing to do with anything or did he???
Kleat, isn’t it AMY who writes about her insurance and Oviedo?
To Troy on Facebook
Amy Huizenga (Orlando, FL) wrote
at 2:46pm on June 24th, 2008
I’m still at Ricardo and JPs… hopefully everything works out soon! Hey, so I forwarded my mail a little late… any idea how to get my insurance stuff that got mailed to the Oviedo house?
kleat, sorry read your post after posting my question. Very good observation.
Julie, given that (I think we can all agree) casey seems to be slightly nuts, couldn’t she have actually been being truthful when she told amy she should be committed for awhile, or whatever it was she said precisely?
530 Julie
Debbie Bennett said Cindy was rattled when she got home some evening during the week of June 16 and found the gate open and the pool ladder up. When the shed was broken into the following week (discovered on Tuesday morning), she definitely (according to Debbie) thought someone had been getting into the Anthony backyard. I think that is why they decided to file an official police report.
533 Kleat
This message:
“I’m still at Ricardo and JPs… hopefully everything works out soon! Hey, so I forwarded my mail a little late… any idea how to get my insuranc stuff that got mailed to the Oviedo house?”
Is not from Casey. It’s from Amy. Amy and Troy rented a house together in Oviedo. They both found out in May that the house was being sold. THat’s when Casey claimed to be buying a house of her own, and Amy believed she would be moving into Hopespring in June.
On June 6, Amy got into an accident and totalled her car. Around June 7, Amy had to vacate the Oviedo house, and she temporarily moved in with Ricardo and JP until she could move into Hopespring. Amy bought a new (used) car on June 13.
The insurance paperwork she mentioned to Troy was the paperwork relating to her accident.
I remember listening to CA’s August 1rst interview and hearing Yuri’s complete exasperation when CA casually mentioned that someone (she wasn’t sure who) had brought over a bag of Caylee’s swim things over when they had a get-together with “the kids”. You could tell that he was flabbergasted and that it was the first time he had heard about it! This – after CA and GA had both set forth the possibility of an accident in the pool (ladder up) etc…I was very surprised that Chris hadn’t mentioned it in his interview and thought initially that mention of this had perhaps been redacted but by August 1rst, when Yuri heard it from CA, it certainly didn’t sound like he had heard about it!
This is my third (maybe fourth) post here now and I just wanted to tell you all how much I enjoy reading here! I have been following this case for a very long time now and always look forward to reading the many knowledgeable and insightful posts!
Thank you Blink.
myers, Chris’ parents told him not to take that call. Prolly went something like this fantasy reenactment:
Chris: Mom! Dad! Casey has been arrested!
Parents: Yeah, we saw on the news!!!
Phone: RRRING, RRRRING, RRRING
Chris: Hello?
caller: “Collect call from Casey Anthony from jail. Will you accept the charges?”
Chris: Mom! Dad! Casey is calling me collect from jail! What do I do?
Parents (in unison): HANG UP!!!!
CLICK
#535 why Casey tied herself to the check cashing ect…because….Zanny was on the run right? left poor Casey no other options.?
#561 honestly I think Casey actually thought as likely now she is quite clever, not nuts…and she also told too Annie when she was out on bail that one day..boy did she have a LOT to tell her…
probably goes something like this?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11356027/Lees-MySpace-Blog
ps….Hawkins Irish/Scotch name?
Maura and kleat don’t you think its just a bit of a coincidence that amy mentions insurance and cindy mentions insurance to coworker debbie all around 6/24? Nope nuh uh I also get the oviedo coinkidink. (Not) little dog in oviedo huh george? Right
pps…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSxrVpfC74
Thanks Maura and Suz! I found that last night on a very early poster at SM. Duh… sorry!! Thanks for digging me out again!
I really can’t see how “accident” can work its way in now by the defense. The rules get to change because Baez and Casey say they can? Will they, after all other defense options are gone, they will cry out, “okay, okay, I did it…but it was an accident, and I was SCARED to say anything”. Ofcourse, how can anything be an “accident” if there’s an extensive cover-up, which Casey obviously spent more time doing than actually “looking” for the “missing” Caylee
Comment by westsidehudson #508
I dont think casey had tony’s number memorized remember she casey called her mom and asked her to have lee get tonys phone number for her. she didnt have it memorized.
Todd, right, Casey would have some explaining to do and it would have to be believable, like ‘duct tape’, sticker heart residue, garbage double bagging, carrying Caylee around decomposing, pointing fingers at Jesse and others, how she knew the child was actually dead at the moment of the accident and why not dial 911 when she had access to a phone, or call on a neighbour for help like she did for borrowing a shovel, explain where, when, how, accident occurred and what happened to Caylee physically (and does everything fit with common sense and medical opinion), explain her ‘fear’ of threats, explain stealing from Amy, the bank, her grandmother— ie: she was stealing ‘before’, not ‘because’ Caylee had an accident.
And any behaviour explainations like ‘ugly coping’ have to fit with her behaviour in jail in subsequent months and if this continues to be ‘ugly’ as a coping mechanism, when normally the coping would turn into grief at some point and not be sustained. (heard that IIRC)
Baez knows that accident won’t work unless he can pin it on parents, but then when did Casey ever show any concern for parents, grandparents to protect any family by taking ‘the heat’ in jail.
Julie- #566 re: 535
Good point. Also, she would have been on videotape at the bank posing as ZFG.
Per NL, Lee told Tony & roommates that Casey was a “pro” at passing bad checks. She knew that cashing Amy’s checks would come back to her; she just figured that, like all others in the past who forgave her (e.g. Cindy, Lee, Jesse, Sean), she would, again, talk her way out of it/be forgiven by Amy. My goodness- look at Amy’s side of the text messages that were just released. Amy bought all of Casey’s other lies–about the house; the $400 sleepwalking incident; the mini-stroke keeping her from accompanying Amy to J-Ville, etc.
But she also had to know that bank’s have cameras focused on the tellers. Who hasn’t seen a bank robbery replayed from that view on local news. She couldn’t risk “being” ZFG there.
#562 Maura..I tend to think along #222 with (Blinks response.) re:the pool ladder…
Forgot to add the link:
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m8d10-Read-Casey-Anthony-text-messages-with-Amy-Huizenga-released-as-evidence-August-7-2009-part-2
It’s sad, yet illuminating, when you see the conversation from Amy’s perspective.
Suz, forgot about the whole bag being towed away thing during that time. Thanks for the reminder.
537 Kleat
Casey didn’t call the Anthony house during the flurry of calls from 4:00 to 5:00pm.
During that first wave, she called
the Lexus dealership twice (where George was working, I understand); the first call was 34 seconds and the second was 98 seconds,
Cindy’s cell phone five times, never getting through twice, and hanging on for 2 or 3 seconds three times,
Jesse Grund twice (she couldn’t reach him the first time, and the second time she spoke to him or left a message for 75 seconds, and
Tony Lazzaro once for 98 seconds.
***
Her second wave of calls was after 6:30pm until around 7:10pm, and she called
Cindy’s cell phone for 0 and 3 seconds,
the Anthony landline for 17 seconds, and
the Anthony landline for 83 seconds.
***
She never called George’s cell phone, which may or may not be significant.
#557 silver. WHAT, only FIVE FISHYS? LOL
#572, Todd ~ Baez & his cronies can flout the “accident” defense all they like; it will never fly. Anyone observing Casey’s behavior for more than two minutes would realize that, had Caylee’s death been an accident, Casey would have been milking the grieving mother role for all it was worth.
An accidental death would crown Casey with the glory of sympathy & pity. People would fall all over themselves to try to help her. She could become a minor celebrity in her circle, a madonna of sorrow.
(Please understand, I mean no disrespect to anyone her who has lost a child. There could not be a worse horror than that. I just want to convey that Casey, in all her theatricality, would relish the role. Like a so-called black widow, “in a backwards sort of way.”)
So if an accident is what Baez has in mind, let him go ahead with it. No jury is that stupid, with the exception of the jury that decided the OJ Simpson verdict. Although that verdict was politically motivated.
Suz…. I am sure that is exactly how the phone call went, but I would really like to know why not accept it if he did not do anything wrong. I am just curious to what she would have said to him as is everyone else. Kleat I feel is on to something with her trying to reel him in.
#557 silver. Are you thinking what I’m thinking, the 1% tipster will be on the list? FISH FRY anyone?
Myers
if you are referring to tony not wanting to talk to casey? I cant blame him! she lied, decieved him and put him in an embarassing situation with his friends and family!! can you imagine how he felt I mean he was dating a woman he totaly didnt know and it probably scared him sh***less*and not to mention that he probably was totaly in shock.!!!
I was reading some of amys text messages to a friend! she asked him I think it was a him she was talking to)any ways she asked him !if he had seen casey in hand cuff’s she said she acted like she wasnt even upset! smiling. referring to casey of course and if you remember she was wearing a blue hoodie when she was arrested and she had this smile smug look on her face so not characteristic of a grieving mom. almost like she was posing for the cameras what a kodak moment.
I wonder if anyone else noticed this:
In George’s recitation of the gas can incident to Scott Bolin
(pg 39 starting line 14)
George says” And we’d been told by neighbors and also home association that there’s been other gas thefts in our neighborhood. Whether or not that true or not I don’t I’m just verbally was told that.”
Hmmmmmmm. Other gas thefts? I wonder if that Is true, and could Casey have been responsible for those thefts, too? George’s shed was locked because of Caylee. Maybe it was a lot easier to steal the neighbor’s gas.
I do wonder what she told Tony to get him to help her since it involved breaking a lock.
Carolyn S, that would be interesting to know, that is, if anyone actually filed a complaint. George knew who did this, and he probably kicks himself for putting his foot down with Casey finally. Of course, he never followed through, she manipulates by just returning the cans when challenged, like she paid Amy back a year late for her check fraud– sweep the problem away if you get caught.
#585 chica. OH and let’s not forget that smug “HIGH FIVE” casey and lee performed in front of the public. I was OUTRAGED seeing that. JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!!
boo-
the .1% tipster did not get immunity
Todd, fair questions you have about the phone call. Makes me think that Stutz’s parents were prolly the ones who also told him to take all that stuff (swimsuit, etc.) right back to cindy. I mean, these are kids we’re talking about when you get down to it, and i guarantee their parents are giving them big i told you so’s about casey (yipes, mine would—maybe you all have normal, supportive families, lol—but my mom would be suspicious of a set-up, i have no doubt, and tell me to return caylee’s stuff pronto).
BOO
You just raised my blood pressure again now that is the WORST of the Worst !! how rediculous !! how can baez possibly explain that!! even her friends commented after she was arrested about her smug smile! in handcuffs with her blue hoodie !! what a wench!! you know think about it! if by any chance she was to walk!! do you honestly think there would be harmony in that home after cindys knows that she killed caylee!! Gets me mad all over every time I think of something STUPID they do!!I recall a jail house visit!! george says to casey as she walks in (BEGINING OF JAIL THEIR VISIT)
HE SAYS
hi beautiful!! now you know they never shared affectionate words to eachother in that family.
but your right the high 5 makes me madder than any
that is not the demeanor of a mother worried about her missing daughter later confirmed killed by mommie dearest!!!
lets not forget the no Caylee badge at the memorial &Lee absent from last weekends church service for Caylee too and then that high five he planted on Casey …check out my link on #567 I left..may explain a LOT?
This little girl and her demiss at the hands of her mother has captured hearts all over the u.s and abroad!
A little innocent helpless child that was born into one of the most dysfunctional and violent families!! I have seen alot! but nothing compares to this family absolutely nothing!!
The reason why I said in my comments way earlier that Casey didn’t ‘talk’ to anybody during that whole afternoon on the 16th is that cell phone call times are registered in 6 second increments. The first 6 seconds are not accrued in the call time until there is an ‘answering event’ so any call that connects either to a voicemail or somebody actually answering and saying ‘hello’ isn’t counted until it reaches the first 6 second interval. Casey was IMO just trying to see if anybody was home. I think she left Caylee’s body in the backyard somewhere during the night of the 15th/16th and went back to put her in the trunk when nobody was home in the afternoon. That would mean one would have to assume that George didn’t actually see them on the 16th though. I don’t think ‘lil Caylee was harmed during the day – I think it was after midnight on the 16th – during the night. Of course this is all MOO.
This video is worth a watch interseting stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvk5kSqYmrs
Hi Blink,
I have been reading your site for a while and have commented maybe once before and I have to say that I really enjoy the wonderful information and the insight of everyone here, great job!
Casey Anthony reminds me so much of Diane Downs who I believe received the death penalty. I read about her in a true crime book 20 years ago by Ann Rule. It is absolutely chilling how these two mirror each other. Diane Downs shot her three children who were “in the way” of her lifestyle. Two of her children survived and one did die of the gunshot wound. What got me to thinking about her was when I saw that they are focusing alot lately on KC’s tattoo. I know it’s probably a long shot but as I looked at the picture of it yesterday I noticed the three stars around the “Bella Vita” Do you suppose that is some sick way of memorializing Caylee since she was turning three years old? I remember George and Cindy Anthony in separate interviews talk about how Caylee loved to see the stars every night before going to bed. Which brings me to Diane Downs because she had a unicorn statue engraved with the names of her three children and the date they were supposed to die before they were shot, somewhat like a memorial. Diane Downs spoke about how a “bushy haired stranger” waved her down on the side of the road and reached in and shot her children while of course she received only non-life threatening injuries. When she finally got away from the “bushy haired stranger” she drove her dying children to the hospital at the rate of 5mph. The hospital staff said her demeanor was “icy”, “stoic” and “too accepting” instead of “hysterical.” When they finally informed her that her son was going to make it, her reply was “You mean the bullet missed his heart?” “Gee Whiz!” How cold and calleous these so called mothers are! Diane Downs had a love interest at the time that did not want children. I just find it so weird how these two women have these figments of their imagination are so off the wall, “Zanny the nanny” and “the bushy haired stranger”, and both just happen to be untraceable! Who knows maybe the bushy haired stranger is “zanny the nanny’s brother!” lol I guess in their wicked and evil minds anything is possible. Thanks for listening to my silly rants.
#475 angela ,i havent seen traceable ,but interesting right before i read your comment i was looking up the exact dictionary defination of cameo ,pondering casey ‘s choice of words like neutral place wikipedia,an i accidently clicked on the sublinked word fictional universe,as i was reading it i was thinking how dora is a fictional universe,tv show /video gameusing clues asking the audience for clues,how 22 year olds have a connection with video games that i dont have as a part of my generation,nathan was playing videos games,the zanny my space with dora looks perfect for a crime game of untraceable sorts, but yes i agree fictional universe all the way.
#596 nancy #597 ties into what your saying too
kleat…I am way behind all of you, I try to play catch up…doesn’t always work out the way I want it too…thanks to all of you for keeping me straight….
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