Caylee/Casey Anthony Case Bombshell: Proof George Anthony Lied

Orlando, FL– In a bombshell released in discovery today, evidence George Anthony could not have been telling the truth about June 16th.; allegedly the last time he saw Casey and Caylee leave:

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According to the Investigative Report Excerpt regarding the Cell phone ping study, Casey did not leave the Anthony home until 4:14PM on June 16th. Not the 12:50PM time he told Investigators and recounted in several media interviews. Most recently, George refused to discuss the last time he saw his granddaughter Caylee during the deposition in the civil case against his daughter, lodged by Zenaida Gonzalez.

Given the previously released computer forensics, whereby we know Casey was on the home computer on an IM chat in the morning this supports the fact she was in the home, and as the calls begin on Casey’s cell, she is leaving the residence.

 

SO.. Could it be George who never came home the evening of June 15th? Did Casey leave her cell phone there the evening before and come back? Impossible. She was on it. 

 

Message to Leonard: This makes one more.. LOL.. Told You.

 

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977 Comments

  1. westsidehudson says:

    # 557-silverspnr

    First off, a delightfully entertaining post. Thank you for that. I am highlighting two extraordinarily solid points:

    {silverspnr-quote}And his reason for failing to alert OCSO of the tip that Caylee was dead/he body in the woods by Hidden Oaks Elementary (the only tip, by his own admission, of a DEAD Caylee)?? He says it wasn’t “credible” (even though he went to the location on 3 separate occasions to just make sure that this tip was not truly “credible”)(even though this is where her remains were located a mere 3.5 wks later)…..

    Just like the bag of Caylee’s swim/hair items that Chris brought to the house, here is another fine example of the level of cooperation Cindy was providing to LE.{silverspnr-unquote}

    # 572-Todd

    {Todd-quote}I really can’t see how “accident” can work its way in now by the defense. The rules get to change because Baez and Casey say they can? Will they, after all other defense options are gone, they will cry out, “okay, okay, I did it…but it was an accident, and I was SCARED to say anything”.{Todd-unquote}

    They can Todd, remember, the state gets to put on their show first, with the defense cross-examining witnesses. The defense can assess how things are going in terms of chipping away at evidence. If all else fails, when they are up at bat, they can switch gears and assert that the ME only had an opinion as to Manner of death (that being homicide). The cause of death was never established conclusively by any scientific means, and was determined based on the totality of circumstances. However, we can not say that we know that Caylee died from drowning or suffocation, for example. The defense has to be creative enough in opening statements not to take a particular position in terms of what precisely happened. They can use Cindy and George’s own words and behavior to demonstrate the dysfunction and normalcy of lies in the family unit. They can show both George’s and Cindy’s volatility, if they can enter any past video of them acting out. They can use the supposed “choking incident” as cause for fear. They can establish that Casey was terrified of both of her parents reaction, for that reason, and that she had already established a long term history of lying to cope. There is also a pattern of avoidance, in general, by Casey, as she was staying away from her home, and staying over other people’s apartments and houses as much as possible.

    I’m not saying that all of this is necessarily what I believe , but it can be attempted. With the inconsistencies and some of the points highlighted by Blink posters, they can even assert that Cindy and George were involved in covering up the disposal or attempting to obstruct justice.

    Look, weirder things have happened. Robert Durst was acquitted. He shot and then dismembered his victim . That was astonishing to me!

    # 549-Maura

    Thanks for the correction on the Stutz date. Confession here, I was being lazy when I posted the May date, and I didn’t search for the exact date that they reconnected. I simply wanted to illustrate that it was strange that she stayed over his house after not seeing him since 2007 and that it wasn’t necessitated by distance and travel time. I guess that it wasn’t such a strong point. If they maintained contact via text messages perhaps their relationship held the same level of “closeness” or intimacy as it had the year before.

  2. Carolyn S from Maryland says:

    Nancy;
    It has occured to me that the tatoo “Beautiful Life” may have been referring to Caylee’s Beautiful Life. A Memorial. Quite Possibly. Remember how she kept insisting that Caylee was fine and having a good time? I personally don’t think the love interest was the main motive. However, it is possible that none of us will ever be able to understand Casey’s reasons and motives.

  3. Julie says:

    silverspnr#565..did you check my link on #567 by chance?

    My jaw hit the floor…seriously! What a mixed up bunch. I always too recall Cindy visiting with George Casey in jail & saying to Casey”funny though the nanny took Caylee…..yet NOT the CAR!???”
    ……as in (you idiot the ODOR in the car Casey how are you going to get around that one!?) to which Casey sighs and says “OH mom”..

  4. Kleat says:

    Carolyn S, if Casey tries to explain that the tattoo was all about the baby, the jury is going to be insulted!! The ‘beautiful life’ in some fantasy with Dora the Explorer off on a failed missing in a snake and bug infested, stagnant swampy ‘ditch’ with the other garbage tossed by passers by? Right– total insult to an intelligent jury. And bella vita for the bambino it goes against the ‘ugly coping’ idea, if they try that!

    boz, what a nice little story!! Now THAT, looks like a beautiful life!!

  5. boo says:

    #589 silver Do you mean casey? OR….

  6. cyn0matic says:

    I have long wondered about the motivation of George’s police report on the missing gas cans and Cindy’s committment to call 911. I wonder if the counselor that Cindy is rumored to have consulted advised them to start documenting Casey’s illegal actions. With a series of petty thefts, stealing a car, credit card fraud, and check fraud on her record, it would be easier to have Casey declared an “unfit mother” and for Cindy & George to obtain custody of Caylee. I saw the reports and 911 as part of a concerted effort on the grandparent’s part to establish that pattern of criminality with Casey.
    However, by then it was too late.

  7. Maura says:

    594 Lily

    I listed Casey’s phone calls on June 16 to show that she was not trying to see who was home when the flurry started at 4:10pm. Casey knew no one was home at that time. Cindy worked at Gentiva until 5:00pm or 5:30pm, depending on the day of the week. George worked 3-11 that week. That’s why Casey did not bother calling the landline between 4:00 and 5:00pm.

    Casey only started calling the Anthony landline at 6:30pm.

    I am not following your explanation of the six-second minimum. I am looking at the AT&T originals (150-page spreadsheet of Casey’s cell activity from June 1 through July 17). According to those reports, which are far more detailed than a monthly statement, duration is given in seconds. The listed call durations are 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, . . . up to calls lasting 1,000 or more seconds.

    Are you saying that if a call is reported on that spreadsheet as being three (3) seconds long, that the call was really nine (9) seconds long because the call had to last at least six (6) seconds before the clock started?

  8. OnASeriousNote says:

    In reading, and re-reading the insightful comments relating to this case, some posters have alluded to a secret “code” this bizarre family may live by. I thought my family of ten were the only ones to use secret codes. We only had two of them, “FHB” and “MIK”, and they were used subtly, and only when unannounced visitors stopped by at mealtime.

    As my mother would pull out extra place settings, my father would whisper “FHB” (Family Hold Back) or “MIK” (More In Kitchen), all related to the number of helpings we would have to make do with.

    Sorry, I know a tad off-topic, but this family’s behavior has continually reminded me how grateful I am for the uber-terrific and wonderful job my parents did in raising all of us. We siblings often remind each other than they are FINALLY resting in peace.

  9. Maura says:

    601 WSH

    What Chris Stutz said is that his spring break in April 2008 was the first time he recalled getting together with Casey “this year”; in other words, since January 2008. He would have left Orlando for FSU (Tallahassee) in January, and apparently did not return to Orlando until his spring break in April. He never said it was the first time they had hung out together since the summer of 2007.

  10. Todd in Tulsa says:

    Well, be it that Casey has no proof of the babysitter’s supposed “instructions”, and she will be unable to present it at trial, do you guys think that the jury will be focused soley on Casey’s inaction of waiting 31 days to report Caylee missing? Not only that, it was Cindy who called 911, not Casey

  11. Granmomma says:

    WESH is reporting a body found in a Seminole County pond……could it be Haleigh Cummings? Or, Tracy Oscasio? Or, someone else? The homicide rate in Central Florida is ridiculous! Sorry, off topic I know, but didn’t know where to post it!
    No, elderly person
    B

  12. Todd in Tulsa says:

    I, for the life of me, can’t see how if Casey is “innocent”, as Baez is dutifully boasting, how a wrongfully accused murderer can be laughing with her attorneys every time you see them, have no trouble ordering junk food from the jailhouse junkstore on someone else’s dime, and last but not least, asking for her male companion’s phone number when first arrested for “something she didn’t do”. Hey Casey, actions speak louder than words. Even though you lie constantly, the body doesn’t, and your body language is a confession in itself”.

  13. Granmomma says:

    Body in pond is that of a 60 something year old man that was reported missing this morning in that general area. I think WESH reports things intentionally the way they do just to get our hopes up on cases that stick with us……….. Sorry for possibly getting others as excited as I was when I first read the story. I just want justice for Caylee, Haleigh, Tracy, Jennifer and all the others that have went missing in the central Florida area. I just can’t understand how all these cases have gone unsolved. I know that there is cold cases all over the US but Central Florida seems to have unsolved homicide cases running out their ears! WHY??? Corruption? Lack of investigative knowledge? What’s the problem? I don’t understand!

  14. boz says:

    #500 You’re welcome Blink.

  15. Cheryl in TX says:

    Hello Blink and righteous team of posters. I have read here for some time now and this is my first post. Thank you for such insightful sleuthing. Totally awesome! Followed this case sine July ’08. Hope KC is put away as in LWOP.
    I found an interesting link that I want to share:

    http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

    If this info on ‘addresses’ is correct, can the defense say that KC complied the whole time stating where Caylee could be found and DP would be off the table? Can this open a can of worms against the SA/OSCO? I am not by any means a legal eagle, but this is yet one more strange twist that this case has taken. Coincidence? Way too many coincidences in this case, if you ask me. Code speak for family?
    Thank you in advance for your response.

  16. j.g. says:

    I chose to live outside the Atlanta area because of crime. I go into Atl and stay 3 days a week to work. This has rocked our community. Please read and say a prayer. It is right near where I chose to live in my mountain serenity. Thanks Blinkers.

    http://www.helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?p=650030

  17. capebretoner says:

    todd fist the smell of death in the car. second, there’s a child missing. third, the inaction of casey reporting anything. fourth, all the lies. i’ll bet on one thing, she’s laying in jail wishing she burnt that car

  18. Kleat says:

    Todd, the nanny told Casey to destroy the list too– you know, ‘Mission Impossible’ style! ;) Now, if Cindy got her hands on that list, it would never get to law enforcement to help get into the mind of the nanny/kidnapper person, (for obvious reasons — there is none) but she would make sure Baez got it and kept it secret. Baez liked to keep things secret in finding Caylee (rmr the get me out of jail proposal for he and Casey to go on a ‘secret baby search’?)

    Casey may well have her ‘proof’ about the instructions– thing is, in whose handwriting IS it?

  19. Kleat says:

    capebretoner, but for the fact that Casey loved that car, she expressed thoughts that it was her whole life she no longer had it to use, she could not part with that car so maybe that stopped her, like Cindy said, from ‘driving it into a lake’ somewhere.

  20. Kleat says:

    boo, I’m guessing that silver meant Cindy as .1% tipster (but I didn’t follow the thread very well, but just a guess)

  21. westsidehudson says:

    # 609 Maura

    (haha) I’m glad that you cleaned up my quote once again, and I know that you are a stickler for precision (which really does make a big difference), but I had already stepped back from the original position that I took which had referenced the (or any) incorrect dates. In essence, the dates are moot in relationship to my adjusted take. I had already conceded that (regardless of the dates) they (Casey & Chris) might have maintained a consistent relationship.

    I still would like to know how typical it is for twenty-somethings to sleep over friends’ homes (with toddler in tow), if they live close enough to drive home (since doing so would allow their child the comfort of sleeping in his/her own bed).

    It may be the norm, for all I know. Maybe Caylee loved staying at other people’s houses??

  22. westsidehudson says:

    # 610 Todd

    Do you remember whose interview “the script” info came from? I’m not sure that that was a direct quote from Casey to LE, or was it?

    {Todd-quote}do you guys think that the jury will be focused soley on Casey’s inaction of waiting 31 days to report Caylee missing? Not only that, it was Cindy who called 911, not Casey{Todd-unquote}

    ABSOLUTELY! That is the defense’s biggest hurdle, and they know it.
    The script is a ridiculous bit of fantasy, in my opinion. EVEN IF there had been a script, it’s over, Caylee is dead, why not tell all that was in it? Someone whose daughter is taken 1) would never lose it and/or 2)would never forget the words in it.

  23. lily says:

    Maura – I guess what I’m talking about would be a billing statement which is probably not the same thing as the call record report that you have. Billing statements do not start charging the first 6 seconds of a call event (at least they didn’t when I used to work with customer’s and their billing statements) because customers complained that they got charged for 6 seconds even when the caller answered and hung up. So we may not be talking about the same thing.

    I have a question – why do you think Casey made that ‘flurry’ of calls to George at the Lexus dealership and Cindy’s cell phone? With her calls to the Lexus dealership a few things could have happened – 1) she was put on hold by a receptionist 2) they had an automated system that she had to work through 3) she talked to George which is highly unlikely since I kind of know how car dealerships work. If George was working security he would have been wandering and not tied to a phone. The receptionist or someone would have had to page him to pick up a call. The first one was for about 1/2 minute and the 2nd one was for about 1 1/2 minutes.

    Basically she tries George at Lexus, Cindy’s cell 4 times and then George at Lexus all within 4+ minutes.

  24. boz says:

    I don’t think she is capebretoner. Look at the “before” jail Casey and the “in jail” Casey. Before she had to take care of a baby she didn’t want, lie, cheat, and steal on a daily basis. That was probably pretty stessful for her. The Casey today doesn’t have to take care of a baby, gets fed three meals a day, has more money in her jail account than she’s ever had as an adult, gets as many books as she wants and has time to read them. She has no stress. She’s probably happy and proud of herself. How can a mother touch her baby full of maggots? She’s not one of us. She has no remorse. She doesn’t miss sex nor partying. She never cared about anything but herself and still doesn’t.

  25. Julie says:

    Does anyone think it possible that in which ever manner Casey carried out this dreadful end to caylee’s life that she may have done ‘it’ in the back yard or playhouse area?

  26. bluewillow says:

    All this talk about sociopaths/psychopaths has got me thinking about the 9 yr old foster son I took in who had RAD (RAD is what they call sociopathy/psychopathy in childhood)…

    I used to be a person who would have great anguish when I heard of terrible crimes and cruelty, I would think “how could a person DO that??” I will tell you that after my experience with RAD, I no longer say this because I know now.

    As a mom who raised 3 children and a grandmother, I knew within days that this child was profoundly different. As I worked with him over 2 yrs time, it was a profound learning experience for me. I could never have imagined a person could be like this, much less a young child! Just one of the many things I could write about: he had no love/attachment to ANYTHING- people, toys, places, clothes, possessions, past experiences- All discarded as easily as you or I would discard a used napkin. No true feeling for anything there.

    No conscience, no ability to feel empathy. The bizarre constant lying. Profound narcissism. To a person like this, other people are nothing but ‘props’. Just props, to be used as the need arises and discarded when no longer needed. Their lives consist only of appearances.

    When you do not feel love or attachment, the whole positive side of human emotions is closed off to you. You cannot feel joy or true happiness. You watch the rest of the human race and you know they are experiencing something you do not have. The closest thing they have is to feel power. Control gives them a sense of power. Their lives are a constant quest for power and control. Every interaction with them is a subtle battle of control. It is ALL about control to them! It’s all they have going.

    They do not feel or understand most of the range of human emotions the rest of us take for granted. They watch and carefully observe people and learn to mimic what they do to achieve their own ends, but to one who knows, it is never convincing. Sobs with no tears and so on.

    I was personally trained to do therapeutic foster parenting with this child by a skilled child psychologist who was trained by Daniel Hughes and I truly gave it my all. Children mean everything to me and I could never stand to think that a child that I have anything to do with would have less than a fair chance at life. I have never worked so hard in my life!! 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. But in the end I began to feel that although there were great gains in behavior, there was no change in the core of the person, and I began to wonder if I was simply training him to be better at mimicking normal behavior and more able to fool the innocent.

    RAD, like any personality disorder, is a continuum; some cases are more mild, some more extreme, some more obvious than others.

    Children develop RAD when they are unable to form a bond of trust with the mother (or mother subsitute) during the first 3 yrs of life. A number of things can interfere with this trust: abuse (physical, sexual), neglect (leaving the child crying unanswered when they are hungry, in discomfort, frightened), trauma (not necessarily from the mother, any trauma or abuse can short circuit their ability to trust), and so on. The interesting thing, to me, is that failure to teach the child limits and responsibility after the first year can also lead to RAD. All infants are narcissists! It is the bond of trust with the mother and the training she imparts in those first 3 years that matures a child out of that and makes them fully human.

    Some children get the double whammy.

    RAD parents produce RAD children because of their inability to connect or be trustworthy or truly loving although they may be able to put on appearances of it in public.

    These people can go on to become con artists or horrific serial killers, depending on the severity of their disorder. When they commit these crimes, they do not actually know first-hand the grief and trauma they are causing to others because they do not experience it personally. They don’t know what it is to lose something they are attached to.

    I see a lot of the signs of RAD in Casey and it makes me curious as to what kind of a child she was. For that matter, I find myself wondering about Cindy… One of the signs of a RAD child is that the mother can appear to be hostile (it is due to the unbelievable challenges these kids put them through) but Cindy seems to have a lot of problems with honesty and control herself…

    JMO!! but I think it is interesting for thought and discussion.

  27. boz says:

    Julie #624. I believe little Caylee drowned in the backyard pool. Purposely or accidentally I don’t know and by now don’t care. The Anthony’s are making a living from the death of their granddaughter, I hope they all go to Hell!

  28. Kleat says:

    excellent post, bluewillow, thanks for your personal insight, and the last point, definitely something to consider, I don’t think Cindy IS a Casey, but for whatever reason, gives Casey a ‘get out of jail free’ ticket at every turn.

    We know ‘factually’ from Cindy, that Casey was a loving child, never a problem in growing up, school, no problems with attitudes towards authority such as police, no problems with sympathy, crying at movies, no irresponsibility towards responsibility (rated ‘excellent’ in these categories for FBI survey she filled out– see FBI George interview where SB reveals Cindy’s answers vs George’s answers and George’s seemingly ‘shocked’ response). More than rosey coloured glasses of a mother, was it all Casey’s hypnotic affect on her mother, or did that leave in time, as Cindy realized Casey was not ‘protecting her feelings’ by keeping info from her about Caylee being missing…….

  29. Kleat says:

    Dr. Hare and others talk about the psychopath, but what about how people close to the psychopath react to the psychopath’s actions, how this allows the psychopath to escalate in actions and at the same time, educate themselves better to be a more successful (undetected, fewer mistakes) psychopath. When someone is extremely protective of the psychopath, what causes that to finally change, if it does? Does it go on until there is ‘nothing left’ of the person being affected (such as a mother)?

  30. Kleat says:

    Psychopaths do not learn from their ‘mistakes’, they do not correct their behaviour because of punishment. So, should Casey go free with a successful defense, she will not have learned anything, this was NOT her fault, it’s the police, her mother, friends, Caylee herself, just anyone but her. So life will go on, but she will be better at it.

    Cindy was in Casey’s way. Have to wonder how different this would have played out, had the home been paid for. Casey’s constant calls to her mother for the past years, controlled the information Cindy had, controlled Cindy’s reality of Casey and Casey’s world.

  31. ELMOSMOMMY says:

    #518 Kleat –
    Arent you getting casey mixed up with Amy ? I think it is Amy that loved her car and didnt want to get rid of it even tho it had been considered totalled in her accident

  32. Joan (Canada) says:

    Bluewillow- Great article. Very interesting to read. Explains alot. Just came up for air. Trying here to get up on things, but don’t want to get too far behind on the posting. Writing things down, reading up articles, whew. O.k., back to the research. Try to get back before school starts. lol.

  33. Marcy says:

    #625, bluewillow: Fascinating post. Thank you for your tremendous insight into a person like this (and I believe you are right, this could be a clinical description of Casey). I can’t imagine being so dissociated from life, so disconnected and unable to feel genuine love, warmth, and caring. These are the things that define us as humans; this is what keeps us breathing.

    Bravo to you for your dedication to this child. Do you know how he is doing now?

  34. cyn0matic says:

    Kleat #618
    Wasn’t that “I love my car” IM written by Amy??

  35. PAMELA says:

    I am an Orlando native and have been following both this case and this site from their respective beginnings. I thought I’d finally give some of my thoughts on the case.
    As far as how most people here feel, it seems we are much less interested than most of the nation, perhaps because of the media attention that once again, makes Florida’s citizen’s look like the bumpkins, nutjobs and rejects that we have been working so hard to convince the rest of the states that we are not. The whole Anthony family is a dysfunctional mess and we just want the case to go to trial, to be over and justice served. I have met the Anthony’s several times at their “collection” booths, and was a volunteer when this still looked like a missing child case, although we were basically instructed in how to find a “body”. Cindy is a hot-tempered mess, George seems as though he lost any remnant of a soul long ago, and Lee, well, he sits in a deposition about his murdered niece and chuckles and grins, need I say more. The fact that Cindy patented Caylee’s “name” within days of finding out that she was “missing” shows you where her real intentions lie. And the fact that neither of them are working and yet bills are paid, make-overs achieved and tans aglow says volumes. Whenever I spoke to them, I always felt that they were more interested in donations than in finding Caylee… or the truth.
    There is no 1625 Curry Ford road. There is a 1621 and then a 1701, side by side homes, with no vacant lot that could possibly be 1625. In Orange County Property Appraiser you can look at a pic of the home at most address’ and a street view, and bird’s eye view. This part of Curry Ford is at the farthest Eastern point of this road which stretches approximately 8/10 miles through Orlando. The “house” with the precinct station that is near Dean Road, is at the farther Western portion of Curry Ford, or two opposite ends of town. A good 25/40 minute drive depending on traffic.
    With everything known about the case, I think the most damaging is that Casey was partying, drinking, dating and tattooing for 31 days while her child “was missing”, and if her mother hadn’t stepped in, then God only knows how much longer it would have gone on. There is no explanation for that. And there is also no explanation for the fact that a girl who spent her life on her cell, and computer and in photography has not one text, picture or phone call that is traceable to a nanny. Those two issues alone are going to be the toughest part of the defense to explain away that any rational “peer” on the jury will buy into.
    I and most of us that believe Casey is guilty love that she is sticking by her “man” Baez, from what my atty friends have explained to me he can’t even get the most basic of motions correct, is completely inadequete for a case like this, and is letting his giant ego and desire for fame and fortune rolling him and his client done a dangerous path, that will probably be the end of both of them.
    ok ranting is done. Thanks Blink for the “adult” forum, without all the foul language and sexual innuendo that makes some of the other sites intolerable.

  36. Kleat says:

    geeze…. cynOmatic… not another blip!! I’m gonna quit soon!!! ;) Thanks!– could be as I was reading bleary-eyed and maybe it was ‘outgoing’ vs ‘incoming’.

    Thanks… that makes sense since I was reading wrong on that subject earlier.

  37. Kleat says:

    and scrolling up a bit– thanks for catching that too, Elmosmommy! (no more reading when tired eyes…)

  38. PINK says:

    Kleat -

    Based on first-hand knowledge, these “sub humans” just keep on going: they have NO SENSE OF GUILT OR REMORSE for anything they do…They have learned to fake and lie their way through life and they do so in an extremely convincing manner! The only thing that allows one to get their ‘head around it” is to understand that they have NO FEELINGS and that they fake everything! I can tell you this because I have lived it first hand. No one believes you when you describe this pathology. They look at you like YOU are the one that is insane for describing such a thing!

  39. SuzeeB says:

    #543 Westside

    I believe “1625″ is the time Casey was there and not an address at Curry Ford Rd. Still trying to figure why Curry Ford Rd. for so long.

  40. Maura says:

    618 Kleat

    It wasn’t Casey who said her car was the only thing she could call her own – it was Amy who made that statement after she totalled her car on June 6. Casey never said anything about her car being her whole life.

    You might want to double-check your source. I’m not picking on you, but that’s the second time on this thread you have attributed a text message or MySpace message to Casey instead of Amy.

    Kleat, that’s 2 more passes than I ever get from Maura.. lol
    That evidence is confusing at best. For me. I reviewed them seperately if that helps. Incoming/Outgoing.
    B

  41. lily says:

    Pamela – thanks for the great post and the insight from a local perspective. I haven’t seen it discussed here (or maybe I missed it?!) about the patent on Caylee’s name. Is there a link for that somewhere?

    I too wonder about the many different scenarios we might be looking at depending on Cindy’s reaction to being fed up with not seeing or hearing from her daughter & granddaughter for so long. What if she had waited longer to go snatch Casey? What if Casey had fessed up to Cindy earlier? How far would Cindy and/or Geo have gone to help her cover up? What if Casey had retrieved and cleaned or destroyed the car? What if ‘lil Caylee’s body was never found – or found somewhere else?

    Every time I think about how much evidence there is against Casey – all I have to do is think how easily a few things tweaked here ‘n there and we would all be still looking for a ‘missing’ Caylee and feeling sorry for the Anthonys. Even – dare I say it – Casey.

    lily

  42. westsidehudson says:

    Pamela

    Thanks for your Orlando “insider” post. I agree with you on points about the case. I’ve never met the Anthonys , so you describing them from first hand experience was interesting. Thanks for the info on Curry Ford, I found it wasn’t listed by the USPS, so you’ve cleared that up.

  43. SuzeeB says:

    BTW In the Movie “10″ (which is one of Casey’s description for Zenaida) Bo Derek (the 10) plays “Jenny” is this the Jennifer? There is also a Samantha character.

    Just thought I would mention it..

  44. westsidehudson says:

    #639

    # Comment by SuzeeB

    Thanks Suzee. I have a firewall like Fort Knox that precludes me from looking at a lot of links posted here. I just took off with the 1625, after someone posted it, thinking it was an address.

    Your info helped.

  45. suz says:

    You can’t really patent a name, you patent an invention. I reckon you probably mean trademark (or possibly copyright, but there are an awful lot of Caylees out there so I doubt that would fly). On their website, I see Ants use a trademark (the R for registered) next to the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation name (with and without the Inc.).

  46. suz says:

    SuzeeB that is hilarious, I started this on another site today (re: the confusing patterns and coincidences):

    In fact, I am shocked no one has yet come up with a sinister/secret/clever meaning for why casey says Zanny is a “10.”

    And there you did it! Hey, what do I know, I don’t mean to belittle your theory, please don’t take it that way, it could mean something, but I tend to think that many things people think are part of casey’s supposed cryptic code talking are just the very definition of coincidence.

    I just don’t happen to think she is an evil genius who leaves clues or talks in riddles or leaves bodies at meaningful addresses. I think she is too stupid or sociopathic to even come up with a body disposal plan, an airtight alibi, or even a believable scenario after having 31 days to think one up!

  47. suz says:

    Forgot my quotations, I meant of course that I started to post these words:

    “In fact, I am shocked no one has yet come up with a sinister/secret/clever meaning for why casey says Zanny is a “10.”

  48. j.g. says:

    Blinkers,

    I asked this guy to film around the area of Caylee’s disposal. He gives us 3 video’s so far of details that helps put it all in better perspective to us who have not been there. I asked him on behalf of bloggers on BlinkonCrime to do it :) He had filmed his first one a while back of just the crime scene where her body was found. He went back yesterday and says it’s already beaten down more than when he was there earlier filming. He turns into the Anthony’s driveway, lol. Goes right into the yard of the abandoned house the PI was digging around in. Blink give him a high five. Sure makes it easier for us that have not seen the area to put it all into perspective.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/marinadedave#play/all/uploads-all/1/vvk5kSqYmrs

  49. Todd in Tulsa says:

    When do you all think was the point where George and Cindy knew Casey did it, and decided to begin the cover-up?

  50. ros says:

    SuzeeB, Westsidehudson, reread post #493 but use this link to see the areas of Curry Ford and Hull Street.
    http://paraster.ocpafl.org/Webmap3/default.aspx?pin=302306680000040
    Notice that the arrow is pointing to a parcel 1708. Look at the property below that and slightly to the left. That is the 1625 address property. (When I did the search on this site for 1625, this is what it showed with the arrow pointing at 1708).
    I don’t know why it is on record like that but that cannot be coincidental. No postal address because no buildings on lot, perhaps lot 1708 is owned by the folks at 1625. I really don’t know.
    If you do a man on the street google map search of this area, you can see that it is nice old neighborhood streets. Some of the homes on Hull Circle have backyards leading to Hour Glass Lake.
    Blink commented that she believes that Casey was scoping out a site to dump the body.
    I don’t know if that would take an hour and a half, and as mentioned in other posts also, Casey stated in conversation to NYItaliano that she was looking at a house on Curry and Dean. Dean is on the other end of Curry from that neighborhood.

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