Caylee/Casey Anthony Case Bombshell: Proof George Anthony Lied
Orlando, FL– In a bombshell released in discovery today, evidence George Anthony could not have been telling the truth about June 16th.; allegedly the last time he saw Casey and Caylee leave:
According to the Investigative Report Excerpt regarding the Cell phone ping study, Casey did not leave the Anthony home until 4:14PM on June 16th. Not the 12:50PM time he told Investigators and recounted in several media interviews. Most recently, George refused to discuss the last time he saw his granddaughter Caylee during the deposition in the civil case against his daughter, lodged by Zenaida Gonzalez.
Given the previously released computer forensics, whereby we know Casey was on the home computer on an IM chat in the morning this supports the fact she was in the home, and as the calls begin on Casey’s cell, she is leaving the residence.
SO.. Could it be George who never came home the evening of June 15th? Did Casey leave her cell phone there the evening before and come back? Impossible. She was on it.
Message to Leonard: This makes one more.. LOL.. Told You.
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Boz
my main concern as far as george and cindy being allowed near children is this!
I would be be very concerned if I was morgan
! having cindy and george around is not so healthy. not that they deserve to be excluded but I would have to be on high alert. but somehow I dont think morgan would allow her to be to much influence on her child if she had any. not to mention that I am sure morgans family would have a say!! who knows how they feel about their daughter living with a laughing hyena brother to a sister that killed his only niece.. hmmmmm
your thoughts?
Chica, regarding the Anthonys being re-baptized and reading a few days ago they will be witness’s for the state, perhaps they have “seen the light and the errors of their ways” we can only hope so. What is so hard for them to understand that people would probably be more inclined to embrace them if they would just for once stand for Caylee.
#264 kleat. Yeah cindy said in that interview she was having suicidal thoughts in august 2008.
My thoughts Chica today are how much I dislike G+C Anthony. In the state of Florida, if you get pulled over and are suspected of driving under the influence and you refuse to blow for the breathalyzer(sp), you are punished. I think it’s no license for 6 months or a year. I haven’t checked lately. My point here is if you are remotely involved in the dissappearance/murder of a young child, you can refuse to take a lie detector test and there are no consequences. The Ants refused to do that. Why? And why can’t they be forced to take one? Also, how can they walk out of a deposition? I’ve been through a few of these and never thought it was my option to just get up and leave. They’re partially responsible for little Caylee’s death. How can you allow someone to live in your own home for two years and not know they aren’t working? How do you let your daughter steal from you and other members of your family? They suck and should not be allowed to be around children until this case is resolved. Period!
boz
just how do you not know for two years that your daughters not working !! you buy all the pampers etc take care of all her daughters needs including medical come on now didnt they get wise to that too !!that she couldnt have had a job geez she had no money she had no medical for caylee!! she stole from them and sadly even from the poor grandfathers nursing home account.just how does someone run 4000 dollars in debt on your credit cards and you dont get the red flags popping up all over the place!! Also cindys checks were at one time being garnished that could of been a combination of casey and george!! they both had the same habits.they dont want to cooperate with a lie detector test because they have lied so much! and they are very hostile. I agree why were they allowed to act like caged animals in the depositions with zenaida and mr morgan! its bazaar the behaviour. and now they hold a birthday church thingie for caylee yesterday! they took the focus off caylee and it suddenly again was all about them just like their daughter now you see that the apple didnt fall to far from the tree. geez a bunch of nuts … the farm is full of laughing hyenas(LEE)all of them chewing gum like mad cows!!they got re-baptized does that mean that they are going to start telling the truth or continue with their scams to make money. they used caylees death as a money making tool.
suicidal thoughts boo?
well all that changed when she seen dollar signs !!
kp-in, thanks for the clarif with George saying ‘again’.
Whatever, Lee claims in his own interview, that he learned for the first time ‘before 8 pm’ and was at the house pronto.
Did Lee interrupt his talk with Casey to talk to George to tell him all was ‘ok’ at 8:45 and was Cindy the one who alerted Lee to get to the house so he could be the one to talk to his sister. George might have tried to call Lee and got voicemail, maybe he’s mixing up the calls. Whatever, I am guessing that no one thought George had the best chance of getting through to his daughter to learn where Caylee was.
cindeefromwisconsin
I totaly agree with you we can always hope!!
SOMEONE ANYONE???
Wasnt the car cindys because if you recall she was going to report it stolen or did she? follow thru for once?
Thanks, PINK… figured there was a reason other than ‘family’ texting to get Casey back– just party chat.
I find it amusing that Casey claimed she was “protecting the family” by lying to LE, but the truth of the matter is she is nothing but a narcissist and a sociopath. With Casey’s made-up “to do” list from Zenaida, I wonder if going to club fusion, entering in “anything but clothes” contests, and shopping at Target for beer and sunglasses were mandatory on Casey’s must-do list.
chica, Cindy couldn’t decide to call the car ‘stolen’ on a whim. That was just Cindy’s way of threatening Casey to tell her where Caylee was and a way to not alert police to the Caylee ‘missing’ issue– handle things on the QT, hush hush, Cindy-style.
I think C & G Anthonys time may be better spent (first learning about sociopathic and pathological liers) working with families of similiar issues as their daughter (Casey). Not scamming money for a missing children foundations.(but I do not know if Cindy will admit that Casey has issues) If the C & G Anthonys are not held responsible for obstruction of Justice then I at least hope they go down for money scamming.
Someone post here wondering, if Baez knows he does not have a good defense then why is he keeping this charade up. Knowing Casey has the DP on the table. Why not Plea Bargin now? Well it’s very simple. The longer the charade continues the more cash flow for he and the Anthonys. And of course, all of the lawyers involved. Good grief, I cannot imagine the lawyers that are involved. Everyone who came into contact with Casey within that 31 days better have a lawyer.
I still believe the evidence shows that George and Cindy were more or less innocent dupes of a skilled “malignant narcissist”. They were confused by the white Pontiac turning up at the tow yard. After a month or so of Casey keeping Caylee from her grandparents (as shown by the various Pleasea email communications), George and Cindy suddenly had proof that Casey had not only been stealing money from the family, but had been telling some tall tales. Why would she do that? Then the smell…call it denial, but no grandparent is going to want to think that smell is what is left of a child. They knew during that month that Casey was okay because Cindy had to talked to her several times. It was Caylee they were worried about.
When Cindy drags Casey away from Tony L’s apt, Casey is just pouty. If anything bad had happened to Caylee, wouldn’t Casey have been upset? If Casey had actually had something really bad happen to Caylee, wouldn’t she act guilty or be devastated? Casey’s demeanor and actions had to be reassuring to those grandparents who were now in great need of some reassurance.
Could it be possible that there is no great disgusting family secret that Casey is hiding? In my opinion, Casey could be manipulating the placement of the pool ladder as explanation of an accident that supposedly happened to Caylee at the home, thus implicating the Anthonys in a truly horrible accident. Casey, not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, would only be protecting her parents from the charges that would follow an act of gross negligence. Casey would tell her parents that all this resulting national uproar is THEIR FAULT. She was just trying to cover up their carelessness in the family tradition of lying to those outside the immediate family.
There was a short period of time when George and Cindy cooperated with OCSO before the lies and mistruths began. I believe Casey put together a story with their supposed guilt highlighted, and then put out yet another story that the whole family was supposed to give to the media. This was the nanny kidnapping and Timer 55, in their separate versions of the Sawgrass kidnapping and the Blanchard Park kidnapping. Casey could not have forseen that OCSO would immediately focus on her as the center of something worse than abduction. Casey had been using her cute little girl looks to get away with lesser crimes for years before Caylee came along.
Between the August videotaped jail meeting and before the hurricane hit on August 18 (?), Cindy must have learned the approximate location of Caylee’s body. Why else send Dom Casey looking in almost the right place? I keep wondering too if there isn’t more to the Kronk story than we are being told. Keith Williams, too: they could have had a party out there that week in August while Casey is in jail. After that, the water kept people out for months and it could have been hoped that Caylee had been washed away.
The discovery of the body and all the details had to be a horrible shock for George and Cindy. Even stupidly loving parents can only pretend so long in the face of strong and nasty evidence. When the autopsy was released to the public, they could no longer try to lie about the details. (I am thinking of Conway saying that the duct tape WAS NOT across Caylee’s mouth. They could have kept that one going till the trial except for the autopsy results being released).
All these Anthonys have consistenly underestimated the intelligence of the various LE agencies involved. They thought they could play the grieving grandparents and get the autopsy sealed. George thought he had that fight won and he was almost as angry as Cindy when Judge S refused to give in to the Anthony histrionics.
OCSO might have jumped in sooner with the request for lie detector tests for the whole family. If the tests had been requested before Casey was arrested, it is possible that the Anthonys would have complied. It would have prevented the Anthony family cover up, if they had been locked into the truth before Casey could start her emotional blackmail. They did everything else absolutely right.
George and Cindy had no appreciation at all of the monster they had raised and let loose upon the world. They found out about her just like the rest of us, piece by piece as the evidence was released. What offends most of us is their angry insistence that they are victims in this crime, too. We are offended that they claim they have learned something of value that they could teach others. Maybe they have.
But until they accept that Caylee was murdered by Casey, all of us who are watching this American tragedy are right to wish they would just shut up and go away. Without understanding what happened, George and Cindy Anthony can add nothing to the debate about Casey and her crimes.
whim: a sudden idea or turn of mind, who’s she talking bout cindy or le?
If the defense brings an expert psychologist witness, he’ll probably go with the ASD ‘umbrella’ and go nowhere near the P word.
I think I read somewhere that Dr. Hare doesn’t sell his wares as expert witness for anyone so you won’t hear him arguing his theories on the stand.
more info here, with links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist (note the American Psych Association, so it says here, lumps the terms all together under ‘ASD’, vs Hare’s research)
dddeerma, TWO YEARS living with them and no job and a new baby? You would have to be the DUMBEST person on the EARTH if you didn’t know she wasn’t working. They knew and they enabled her behavior thus making them partly responsible for little Caylee’s death. IMO
somewhere way back i read that the car privlege had been taken away from casey,does anyone have details?
#315 susanm. My money is on cindy cuz she knew george had the car.I believe she instructed casey to get rid of the car but casey did not.
It appears that Lee was not present for the memorial/baptism on Sunday. Things that make you go hmmmmmm. Also, just an observation — the more time that passes and as I watch the jail video where Casey tells her family Caylee is “close”, it becomes more and more obvious that she definitely WAS giving clues. After all, she KNEW Caylee was dead and she KNEW where she was. And if, as so many speculate, GA and CA knew Caylee was gone, then they knew that this was a clue. In her FBI interview, CA talks on and on about KC and her “clues”. They were expecting her to give clues, and KC obliged. How much more clearer can you get than saying that Caylee is close and to look in places that are familiar to the family. Sorry for going on about the obvious, but something just caused the light bulb to go on for me, and I saw these statements much more clearly for what they were.
Chic and Boz
Yes Indeed, How can you not know your daughter is not working for 2 years? For that matter why were Cindy’s JC Penny and Sears cards in Casey’s wallet on July 16th
Why would Cindy be so concerned about them? Surely due to all of Cindy’s experiences with Casey’s past “discretions” not to mention the most recent one with Grandma. Cindy would be most certainly keeping a daily check of her accounts. Wouldn’t you set up some type of alert? Or wouldn’t you set a maximum balance?
George said they paid most of their bills online “now” It is easy to check daily purchases (especially if you “wanted to know” “when “ a purchase was made and “where” it was made from. Or how about just to reassure yourself that specific items were being purchased for a child. After all you cant expect the Nanny to buy everything.
Hmmmm I think I would miss my credit cards within a 31 day window. If I was “missing” them I would call and report them stolen and have my account number changed or at least close those accounts.
Wouldn’t you hide your cards if someone had a habit of using your accounts without permission to do so?
Or were the cards given to her because one knew Casey would be gone for awhile? Just Thinking…
Susanm. I think there was discussion with casey about burning the car perhaps.
To be honest, I haven’t followed the case for a while, but when it first came out, I did.
Back then, I was most intrigued by Stutz interview. I wonder if they ever figured out when she was partying at Scoops. If I remember right, his initial guess was that he saw her the night before she showed up at his house, I took that to mean the 16th.
Though when the police asked him if he was “sure” – he changed it to a range of a few days. I remember being intrigued with whether she had gone on Father’s Day Sunday or the Monday the 16th, when her daughter probably died.
#268 Maura,
I don’t believe the records are on DocStoc or anywhere else freely accessible. The media has only uploaded some of the discovery.
The records I am referring to were in a large zip file contained in the April document release called (simply) “Phone records.zip”. This file contained cell billing records for George, Cindy, Andy F., Jesse, Amy, JP, Stephanie, Tony, Troy, Ron Westenbarger, Ed Taylor, plus the Anthony home records and several versions (in spreadsheet form) of KC’s cell records. Plus a bunch of other gorp.
Similarly the September document dump had an almost 100MB zip file containing computer forensic data.
I got my copies from someone who went to the state’s attorneys office and got the disks when they were made available.
Lol, starts with an F, he is a good guy
B
What I can’t figure out is Baez. He has to know, as well as the overwhelming evidence that has been turned over to him by the prosecution, and by recklessly claiming Casey is “innocent” is not in her best interest. I didn’t think you could ride out a “not guilty” tactic all the way till the end, and then automatically after you are found guilty cry out “my client wants to plea!”
I guess I was most curious who she was with at Scoops, if not Tony.
To me, if this was premeditated, the 15th (at least) was probably spent thinking about it. The 16th was the put it into motion day. The 17th and 18th were the clean up and try to cover it up days.
so, debbie bennett says it began with cindy saying she hadnt she seen caylee in TWO WEEKS cuz casey was away working,and they were coming home that mon. the 23rd,as i pointed out in prev comment on the 23rd it would only have been one week,at that point,cross reference with george scott bolin interview,page 41 line 25, on the 24th(gas can day) casey comes in, i say “where you been? she says oh dad ,i got ten minutes gotta get back to work,where’s caylee?with zanny,i ‘d like to talk to her,i havent talked to her in a COUPLE OF WEEKS.whats going on?no mention of car accident (wow two friends in a car accident ,hospitalized,broken ribs and no mention,and two little girls(caylee) witness,this horrible accident ,no mention of tampa ,no mention of insurance cards. and george and cindy communicated twice ,and went to bank together and cindy doesnt mention accident that caylee witnesses,and casey by zannies beside??? this is hard to convey,(i havent put together, exactly what it indicates)i hope you can see it,more…
#294 Kari
There is only one knife. It was removed from the car (along with a number of other items) by Cindy and washed. OCSO later asked for her to provide those items and she stuffed them all into a black trash bag with yellow pull ties that she grabbed from the garage.
Testing done on the knife revealed a sticky substance that was NOT consistent with the duct tape adhesive, but they could not say what it was. They saved the sample for later comparison if necessary.
Fun fact: The black trash bag Cindy used to hold all the objects for OCSO was found CONSISTENT in make and manufacture with the bags found with Caylee’s body. Other black plastic trash bags with yellow handles taken from the Anthony residence during the December search were not found consistent with the body bags – likely because they were purchased at a later date.
So, while there have been complaints that Cindy “cleaned the car” (which I don’t think that was what she was really trying to do) we must recognize that if she did nothing there would have been no other reason for her to hand over a black trash bag that likely came from the very same box as the bags Caylee was shoved into.
A twist of fate …
but george and cindy are saying by the 23rd they hadnt seen caylee in two weeks (which dates back to june 9th),which by itself would only indicate they either both have the same exact snowflake of a memory,or once again lying,george,you might could explain(maybe not),but cindy made it publishable by a witness debbie way before this became a case,which shows premedition to cover a crime,before the crime is reported.
Casey showed up at Will’s doorsteps too, she shows up on a lot of guys steps. Reading the Will Waters interview I’d read ages ago, there’s the answer to the football and soccer ball that were in Casey’s room on her dresser, as per Cindy, they were connected to Zanny somehow because they belonged to Annabelle Casey was possessive of them because she wanted to get them back to Annabelle”.
Casey had Will W. targeted as a patsy immediately– he liked her and she knew she could toss some incriminating evidence his way, prove he was connected to the ‘Na-Naw’ through stories to Ryan Huffman which were then called in to the tipline about Will knowing about the car, the dead body smell as Casey relayed the info (to Ryan at or after the July 4th party?).
How did Casey get the football and the kickball that she knew they bought at the Target, because she and Amy went along with Will when he got them for the July 4th party?
Will doesn’t say in his interview (as we have it) that he gave the two balls to Casey, although seems he would have given them to her without question, if she’d asked for them. They connected the Casey story back to Will.
Once Casey had the balls, she could then avoid Will, just texting him, making plans and cancelling with him, putting his texts to her on record so he was the one calling her repeatedly as she avoided. (legit reason to cancel a helicopter ride which Casey didn’t bother to tell him she couldn’t make)
What was Ryan (Huffman?) arrested for on July 26th?
# 250 Comment by BrendaT
Your comment about the Anthony’s family dynamics, was very insightful and very well stated. Humiliation, break down, tear down, conquer and destroy. What ever you want to call it, Cindy did this to her daughter. For no other reason than for control, or to pull the strings ultimately this brought her love.
About two years ago, I was given a purpose in life. To help single mothers remove the labels placed on them by family, friends, and society. To teach them to reach goals they never thought was possible. My focus has been on the mothers, however since this case my purpose has become much larger and more detailed. We can not protect the children and the harm that is being done to them, UNTIL we strengthen the mothers heart mind and sprit.
I have heard mothers call children, brats, lazy, slow, liars, cheats however it has painfully stuck in my heart when I heard that a mother repeatedly called her daughter a sociopath. Whatever one may think of Casey. She was once a Caylee. If we can learn anything from this horrible experience, is everyone needs to stop LABELING our young children and our young adults.
My young children get this concept, my son called my daughter a liar, she had never lied before and then she lied. Of course she got in trouble, however it was my son who got the biggest lesson out of the experience. He knew she had never lied, and he came to realize that he is responsible for the words that come out of his mouth and how they can harm another individual.
Think of it as a onion, each label is another layer on top of layer the good news it that SOME of those layers can be peeled back and removed by knowing they exist.
Cindy got something out of pretending that Casey was working. IMO Cindy needed Casey and Caylee to depend on her. Notice how she humiliates Casey to the MEN in Casey’s life. Why? Maybe so Casey wouldn’t leave her. It is also possible she discouraged Casey from getting a job.
Most young adults goals are to graduate high school and can not think beyond that. Then wander around aimlessly from day to day. How many young adults do you know like this?
Going out and purchasing books on evil people and how to label them is not the answer. Go out and get books that teach leadership skills and how to help another person build their self esteem, then take action. There are also great leadership programs everywhere that can teach you through experiential learning, where you can identify what your own onion layers consist of, then peel those layers away so you can help others. Teens do great in these programs, because they don’t have as many years of layers to peel away as some of us do.
I would like to think that Casey’s story of being a event planner and going to college was a dream she had, yet lacked the confidence or support to obtain it.
JWG, interesting twist of fate! Yes…
in fact cindy is the only one who told this tale of tampa,did we actually even hear it from casey,who else?who else did she tell?or was it only for work,like the female problems story,did cindy make up this story all on her own?did she try to get casey to go along with it?
Just reading all the comments on the Anthony family dynamics and I had a thought this morning. I was thinking about all the deceit, all the lies in this family. One thing stuck out to me…I was trying to think about Casey actually telling the truth about something, anything. As ironic as this may seem…she did tell the truth or tried to once long ago. Casey told Cindy she wanted to give her baby up for adoption…she mentioned her friend, Kio Marie (I believe) who wanted a child. Cindy, of course, said no and the rest is history…however, how ironic. Casey tried to tell her mother her true feelings…she tried to let her know that she didn’t want a child. This is too sad. Maybe, just maybe this was the way things went in this household…whenever Casey told the truth or at least stated her true feelings…she learned to lie and cover up and just go her own way.
There was a special service at church on Sunday to honor what would have been Caylee’s 4th birthday. George, Cindy and Brad Conway were there. They released balloons after the service. Does anyone wonder WHY Lee was not there to honor Caylee’s 4th birthday and the lawyer was?
Did Casey include Zenaida Gonzalez on her list of contacts when she worked for Universal? Also, what genuine and caring grandmother doesn’t press the issue of wanting the contact name and number of their own granddaughter? The person that supposedly day in and day out looking out for the grandchild’s well-being? Was Cindy that naive and apathetic?
I agree wholeheartedly regarding the ‘contact info’ for the alleged babysitter. Cindy was a nurse, an educated woman – it simply makes no sense at all that she didn’t have any idea where Caylee was spending her days…frankly, I can’t believe or understand how Cindy could not have known Casey wasn’t working. If you think about what a control freak she is, I’d think she’d have all the numbers, contacts, etc. on the fridge. It is unimaginable to me that there would NEVER have been a time when Cindy needed to call her at work for some reason, a change of plans, an emergency, a routine how are you call…nothing, not once..not to mention all the things all of you have talked about…tax returns, pay stubs, etc. Surely Casey told her to just call her on her cell but it still seems very strange that they didn’t know what she did with her time and how she ‘earned’ her money..when their money was being stolen by Casey, how could they think she was working then?
Legal question– should the defense be successful in having the court certify Tim Miller as witness, will that have any impact on success or failure of the motion to gain access to TES’s records, hardly trimmed down from the early Baez motion, tho’ looks somewhat ‘slimmer’ (I could be wrong).
Also, if Tim Miller is certified as a witness, and if he continues to resist handing over extensive records under his control, names of volunteers etc (even if more limited to the area of the remains), would the defense try to push him into the position of being declared ‘hostile’ so they can dig at him hard at trial? (or would that be a bad idea, given his credibility, reasons for being in the search ‘business’? (‘business’ as implied by the defense position as ‘doing business with OSCO in Fla).
And, if Tim Miller is drawn tightly into this, will this change Mark NeJame’s ethical position as having sided with the Anthony’s (specified in his retainer agreement NOT to help Casey) and represented the Anthony’s?
And… any circumstances that might allow Cindy’s raging threats to Tim Miller in her voicemail to be heard at trial?
Also does anyone else think its well, (obvious) that cindy calls 911 to report the car stolen on the very day geo picks up the car from johnsons? What was that cindy Plan B? WTH?
Todd, just watch the M=M depo that G+C walked out on. Cindy is asked if she prepared for this depo and she says “Yes, she prepared.” Later on she is asked if she has addresses and phone numbers for the Nanny and she fidgets a bit and says, “No she didn’t bring any with her” What kind of crap is that? This is all such a sad, sad joke on little Caylee! Now G+C are living off money being generated because of her death! SICK people!
Excellent post midwest mom #331 and I agree: I too have thought that Cindy WANTED to overlook the fact that Casey wasn’t working because she wanted Casey and Caylee to be dependent and stay with her, for several reasons: 1) the obvious – the joy of having Caylee around – 2) keeping Casey on a tow – after all, Cindy & Casey called and texted daily, even when Casey lived in the house – 3) Casey was probably Cindy’s greatest ally in Cindy’s ongoing war with George. Therefore Cindy could talk herself into denial of what was really going on for so long.
Todd, casey basically left Universal (or Kodak or Colorvision or whatever it was called precisely) once Caylee was born. I think she went out on maternity leave and basically never came back (and was ultimately terminated for job abandonment) except once to show them the kid. So even a real Zenaida wouldn’t have figured in her life while she was working there, if I have my facts straight.
I guess I am the only paranoid one out here, but I don’t blame the Ants for not taking a lie detector test. Who knows if George and Cindy would have done it had Lee not cautioned them against it. They’re not even admissible in court, are they?
Remembering Cindy’s discussion with investigators about Casey’s smile– investigator comments ‘it works for her’ (about her smile)– and then Dr. Hare’s answer to this question on the ‘Fraud’ page of his website: http://www.hare.org/links/fraud.html
Quote:
“Do male and female psychopaths practice their deceptions in different ways? If so, how?
Hare: There are many clinical accounts of female psychopaths but relatively little empirical research. The available evidence suggests that male and female psychopaths share similar interpersonal and affective features, including egocentricity, deceptiveness, shallow emotions, and lack of empathy. All will make maximum use of their physical attributes to deceive and manipulate others, but female psychopaths may be less prone than males to use overt, direct physical aggression to attain their ends. The term femme fatale comes to mind.”
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#336 Todd
Casey worked at Universal prior to having the baby – her job was ended because of abandonment – she never went back after the birth of caylee
Casey claimed to have open hours at her job – not a 9-5 job and worked from home a lot on her phone and computer, and then going to jobs at night in her role as event planner. She had that fake email that was supposedly from her boss, that pertained to a job she was working on, and her Universal ID card that she wore often. George had definitely had the thought that casey didnt work but really doesnt seem like Cindy questioned it at all. Casey used all kinds of excuses about why she needed money for diapers etc. claiming paycheques were late or locked in a drawer at work. etc etc to explain her no money and guess she stole enough to sometimes have money.
Confusing tho that Lee said in a jailhouse visit with Casey that he found proof she worked , and that the 2 outcry people had been found– or am I remembering this wrong ??
chica my friend, who first brought out the facts about Casey running up a $40,000 credit car debt and why?
JWG
You are so right! I can’t believe I read that wrong- And I thought I was onto something– Thank you for ending my obession over the knife–lol!
Cindy also told Shirley that she was suicidal (thinking of “doing away with herself”) before Caylee went “missing”.
From: Thursday, June 05, 2008 America Online: ShirleyMP79
“CINDY WAS DOING FINE, SUPPORTING THE HOUSE , SAVING ETC, TILL GEORGE GOT THEM INTO DEBT, WITH THE ON LINE GAMBLING.GETTING CREDIT CARDS TO COVER THE LOSES THEN RUNNING UP CREDIT BILLS. CINDY USED A LOT OF HER SAVINGS, AND TOOK AN EQUITY LOAN ON THE HOUSE, SO SHE HAS TWO BIG PAYMENTS ON THE HOUSE SHE USED THE REST OF HER 401 K TO PLAY CATCH UP ON CAR INS. AND ALL THE OTHER BILLS. SINCE GEORGE CAME BACK HE’S HAD AT LEAST 3 OR 4 JOBS. HE’S SUPPOSED TO PAY HIS CAR PAYMENT THE TELEPHONE AND ELECTRICITY BILLS. HE GETS BEHIND ON THOSE EVEN CINDY SAW A COUNSELOR, SHE TOLD HER TO NOT SUPPORT CASEY AND CAYLEE. CINDY SAID I CAN’T LET THEM BE OUT ON THE STREET.
SHE SAW A LAWYER BEFORE ABOUT THE DIVORCE, BEFORE SHE TOOK HIM BACK. GEORGE’S LAWYER SAID HE COULD GET HALF THE HOUSE ( WHICH CINDY HAS PAID EVERY PENNY ON, AND ALSO SHE WOULD HAVE TO PAY HIM ALIMONY,BECAUSE SHE HAD SUPPORTED HIM ALL THESE YEARS. CINDY ASKED HER LAWYER IF THEY COULD DO THAT. HE SAID YES THEY COULD, BECAUSE SHE HAD BEEN THE MAIN SUPPORT EVERY SINCE THEY CAME TO FLORIDA.”AIN’T THAT A BITCH??? )
SHE SAID AIN’T NO WAY HE’S GETTING THE HOUSE THAT SHE HAS PAID FOR. SO SHE HAS TO STAY MARRIED. KNOWING SHE WILL NEVER GET AHEAD AGAIN. EVEN IF SHE WANTED TO GET AN APARTMENT, AND SOLD THE HOUSE. . HE COULD STILL CLAIM HALF OF EVERYTHING SHE HAS. THAT’S WHY AT 50 SHE IS SO DEPRESSED ALL THESE YEARS OF WORKING AND BETWEEN GEORGE, AND NOW CASEY… SHE IS LIVING FROM PAYDAY TO PAY DAY. SHE SAYS SHE KNOWS THERE IS A SICKNESS THAT RUNS IN GEORGE’S FAMILY. HIS SISTER, SONIE, IS BIPOLAR , LIKE JEAN’S SISTER JOAN, COMPULSIVE BEHAVIOR, OVER SPENDING IS ONE TRAIT. LOTS OF OTHERS, CASEY HAS IT TOO
CINDY SAID SHE HAS THOUGHT OF “DOING AWAY WITH HERSELF”, IF IT WASN’T FOR CAYLEE AND DAD AND ME. BUT WITH THE PRESSURE SHE’S UNDER, EVEN THAT MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH TO KEEP HER FROM HARMING HERSELF. SHE SAID THE ONLY THING THAT KEEPS HER SANE, IS SHE LOVES HER JOB SO I GUESS SHE’S SAFER WORKING, THAN TAKING THIS WEEK OFF.”
(***didn’t Cindy take this week off though?? if so, why would she lie to Shirley about it?** didn’t Casey also lie and say she had to go to Tampa this week for work?? Cindy didn’t know why Casey would lie about that. Sound familiar??***)